This is an interview of the highest calibre. Helen Pluckrose presents the issues we face in the task of rescuing the best of our culture with forensic clarity and intelligence. This interview is laden with memorable quotes and phrases that succinctly summarise the forces at play. It takes real intelligence and clarity of thought to present the complexities that underlie the tectonic plates of cultural dissonance with the accessibility that she achieves.
Ironic isn't it. Ms Pluckrose, like James Lindsay, was attracted toward her unusual road in pursuit of the "new atheist" movement. (You could add Stephen Pinker to the group too.) They were attacking theism with argument - like good children of the Enligtenment - which put them in the cross hairs of the new postmodernists who don't seem to require reason. Christians also need to affirm objective truth. So here we are allies - Christians and atheists against the nihilist barbarians so prominent in our moment in the public arena.
Helen Pluckrose is perhaps the most articulate and nuanced thinker I have heard on the impact of postmodernism in the academy, especially the humanities, as well as the larger culture. I look forward to her book. Thank you so much for the quality of this interview.
Excellent interview. Helen Pluckrose is one of the most sensible and intelligent voices in the world today--and John Anderson is a top notch interviewer. Well worth the time to watch!
What a brilliant Woman! You get a sense of unbiased, honest and open appraisal of the current environment and it's philosophical, ideological and scholarly underpinnings, the mark of a true intellectual and student of knowledge. Great interview.
John Anderson interviews are some of the best on TH-cam. I am always impressed by the guests and the tone of the conversation. I'm always left with the question: if this is what one intelligent man on a small budget can produce, why do we (in Canada) pay upwards of 1.5 B$ to fund the CBC and the crap they consistently produce? Where is the value?
@@coweatsman Au contraire, the BBC and Channel 4 both receive massive taxpayer funding on top of the license fee. A fee that is payable if you watch any TV at all.
There's always great hope for civilisation. Just that we focus on the most negative, loud mouthed, empty vessels because they make more noise. The silent majority continues to work through all forms of trouble that the vocal minority brings.
Recent events and the blatant hysteria have shown me the stupidity of my own tribalism and ideological loyalties. It is great to see people of all creeds and leanings speaking up against the mob mentality that has taken over huge swathes of society. I think one positive outcome of the last 10-15 years has been a resurgence of people trying to genuinely rediscover rationality and objectivity. who knows, we could be on the cusp of a re- enlightenment.
@@DP-cd5wr Fantastic comment, thanks for bothering to post :) What I'm noticing is that the old terminology I grew up with, just definitions and basic understandings of what it means to be 'left' and 'right' for example, don't really exist anymore. I can't use the same terms I would have in conversation in the 1990's for example. They mean nothing in 2020. This 'new Hard Left' have nothing to do with what it meant to be a 'left-wing liberal' when I was growing up. I don't know what the hell to call these Antifa-supporting, intersectionist, neo-Marxist who are going about behaving like textbook fascists whilst proclaiming themselves to be 'anti-fa' and ' here to burn books for the common good', here to censor things 'for the common good', here to rewrite language, law and indeed history. The goal posts have been surreptitiously moved a few inches, as if by thieves in the night. Finally I noticed too. Many of what were once accepted as traditionally basic Liberal values would now qualify a person as part of a 'right wing'. It's a really discombobulating time to be political engaged. But like yourself, I'm finding new understandings of the mechanisms at play within this culture war so in that way, you and I are both more philosophical and into transcending the tribal wars, analysing it all instead of enthusiastically throwing ourselves into every emotionally charged, sanctimonious little skirmish going.
Sadly obesity takes a great toll on the heart... I encouraged her to look into a whole food based diet. Banking reform is not being discussed. Welfare reform is not being discussed. As food becomes less abundant reality will become clearer and clearer.. The RATOPOLIS EFFECT IS REAL...🤗😉
She is brilliant and we need a few more thousands like her in media and academia. Oz needs John Anderson in LNP advisory group, immediately. He is brilliant too, and an endangered species.
Simone Streeter I agree wholeheartedly! Postmodernism is one of those things like the Event Horizon in that the harder I try to understand it, the more I feel like I don't understand it at all. My brain seeps out of my ears! I really look forward to her book!
Helen is awesome. She’s not only clearly pointing out the problems with applied post modernism and defending modernism, she’s doing it from the left. It would be great if we had more people on the right defending modernism from the pre modernists who are increasing in number and volume on the right.
Top notch interview/conversation. This kind of high quality, intelligent content contributes significantly to the bit of sanity that sometimes seems to be hanging on by a thread in today’s polarized, information-saturated world.
Brilliant, Helen. More power to you to take the truth to more people, especially the young being educated, and arming them with the arguments against constructivist, identity, grievance and power ideology.
One of the greatest academics in recent years, who gets torn apart by short form social media commenters who have clearly not remotely understood what she has said or attempt to do. Glad to see more intelligent takes here in this full interview.
As my good dad would say, Helen is obviously a smart cookie and very articulate speaker to boot. Sound personal politics she is prepared to defend are the icing on the cake for me.
"That here are no absolutes has become the new absolute." That is absolutely spot on description of Critical Theory. I've tried to explain this contradictory implication to some of its proponents, without much success unsurprisingly.
Check out the Lindsay and Boghossian interview on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I think you'll get alot out of it. It's unbelievable how many satirical exercises and intellectual pranks fly waaaaaay over the heads of the so called gatekeepers in our culture and in political office. ;)
Good on you Helen not only for expressing your ideas so clearly but for engaging in a discussion with someone who may be not from your side of politics.
She's undoubtedly a smart, well read and thoughtful person but she does come out with a lot of bollocks too so my admiration for her intellect see saws a lot.
Jon Anderson says "What does the "man in the street"............." whilst interviewing an accomplished woman, and I as a woman am watching this interview, and men and women are watching this interview. Talk about unconscious bias, or maybe not so unconscious, but the accepted norm
Thank you for your clear and distinct answers Helen. Post modernism and the critical theories that have spun off of it, make for a complicated landscape that is hard for a layman (myself) to get a handle on without the proper study. You are a great help. Also, thank you for pushing back against John's assertion that secularity is part of the problem with these theories. I enjoy John's interviews but often hear him opportunely trying to wedge in his christian apologist tendencies.
It was sad when Hong Kong was mentioned as an example of people standing up for democracy and freedom at 40:38. Now, China has swallowed up Hong Kong, and all freedoms of speech are gone 🇭🇰 😭
So she wants her cake and eat it too? Helen have you heard if you give a mouse a cookie it will ask for a glass of milk. Thus, giving up his freedom for a dependence on his cookie and milk provider.
I just found this from another video. Feels almost more relative than it did 4 years ago. This is interesting AND like other people mentioned, she is really clear on what she is saying making it easier to follow. I got to say it is making me think even if she is just skimming the surface here.
The best explanations and clarifications of post modernism I've come across to date. I believe the sterling work of Helen and her two colleagues (check out their brilliant and amusing interview with Joe Rogan) is crying out to be made into a Netflix documentary complete with those that regularly draw upon the type of dubious research these brave patriots of academia have exposed.
I’m my opinion there has been a fast tracking of the development of what I’d call Interpretative Theory, into Instrumental or Applied Theory. I taught and encouraged the range of Critical Theory as a way or lens to see, interpret and understand my discipline area, Urban Design. I still support people experimenting with any and all theories, but there needs to be reality checks on them believing that the lens is more than it is. A brilliant quote I can’t remember the author of, is that a ‘critical theoretical lens should never be thought of as a corneal transplant’
26:30 The First Wave of Post Modernists became CONSPICUOUS during the late '60s, but had started entering the universities at least 20 years earlier, waiting for senior staff to retire by the early to mid '60s.
I completely disagree with her economic views but what an intelligent erudite interviewee. Would like to have seen her debate economics. Fabulous interview.
The interviewer says "George Orwell wouldn't have describe himself as a conservative" Errr yea, that's like saying Margaret Thatcher wouldn't describe herself as a socialist 😂 Below are two separate quotes from Orwell and I quote verbatim: "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism as I understand it." ....... “For perhaps ten years past I have had some grasp of the real nature of capitalist society. I have seen British imperialism at work in Burma, and I have seen something of the effects of poverty and unemployment in Britain…. One has got to be actively a Socialist, not merely sympathetic to Socialism, or one plays into the hands of our always active enemies.” The latter quote is from - George Orwell, “Why I Joined the Independent Labour Party”
Now he is really pissing me off, "If nothing else gets taken from this conversation, it's that ..........". Well that's an effective way to diminish her work. Jon Anderson, the many messages and issues are readily understandable. A particularly astute point is just that. We can take it all away, all at the same time. Her work stands. Explain for the "layman"...for christ sake, Helen Pluckrose is a clear communicator and her work easily understandable, Doh! His commentary is littered with male bias, no excuse for that. But then again, he is a conservative.........22.30......she didn't let it all slip by, but did he get the message?
There is already a strong push back against current cultural orthodoxy in the University setting and the pandemic is bringing it faster. People have gotten pretty cynical about the role of colleges role in determining policy or improving lives and the DNC has lost a lot of respect on the left as well. I think so many of us are politically and socially homeless that Bernie's popularity was just a hint of what we are hungry for and we all watched as the superficial use of identity politics torpedoed his campaign. The continued importance of the reality of disparities is also pushing this force in society. We need paths of solidarity not shame.
Aww ... "the Audience is the average person", I love her and it's so necessary. This lady should run the BBC. I like her liberalness but can we keep the traditional family and stop attacking it. WOW She super Ethical, I so Admire Her. I can't believe that this kind of stuff would be propagated, giving rise to soo much misinformation and false-information people are getting judged over these kinds of bias-information which the academics and politicians are publishing, gosh I am appalled to think lives are being ruined and laws created due to these kinds of happenings. Hello - Instead of loaded Language and Controlling the Narrative let's just be, body language is soo under-estimated and actually shows how we feel and think and is universal. "Can't rely on anything" - Let's just be mindful. Identity is about personalities of the mind. - The mind is subjective how can we create a society around it, let learn how we learn, and how we behave. And start ensuring we have a fair and equal system for our children so they are able to create a fairer world. This has to be imperative.
If I were recruiting for M16 I'd pull you in for a stealthy interview, LOL. You have precisely the kind of eye for details that many others would miss entirely. I love it! But I confess, I don't know what that was either now that I've gone and studied it. :D
@@Spagghetii Well I am disappointed. I was hoping it was something wildly exotic like an airborne merkin send adrift by an over-engineered wind machine on the set of a niche-genre, roof top, porno movie shoot. Boo! :D
@@Spagghetii I believe in you! One day you will drive an Aston Martin Vanquish and drink martinis that are shaken and never stirred. I will now refer to you as 'Agent 4102'. ;)
Stephen Pinker, Peter Hitchens, Jonathan Haidt, James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, Bret Weinstein, Sam Harris. These people come from very diverse backgrounds, some are avowed leftists, while others are firmly on the right, yet they have all done remarkable work dismantling post-modernism
Once upon a time social sciences did useful things like help design buildings and spaces that are more easily accessible for everyone from the young to the old and of most every ability. Now, well I'm surprised they're not ashamed
"There's been a marked decline in objectivity of thinking." Jesus Christ this is true. You two are fantastic! And if any of you would like to see what I wrote in response to the cluster that Identity Politics have turned the world into in 2020, and on my firm stance in support of free speech, here you go: www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
Helen young people should not go to University and study the humanities. Why waste your life when these university departments are over run with these lunatics. Starve them of oxygen and they will have to reform! The worst part is you are still expecting people to spend a fortune for this privilege! ridiculous!!!!
There was an article in The Australian about a week ago is transcript of the speech she gave at the Ramsay Institute of Western Civilization (Sydney). Well worth it! www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/the-problem-with-grievance-studies/news-story/674aefae465e3b26b9690f2997510d33
The interviewer is a rare gem in a sea of shit..a star in a sky of fart. Yet jewelry embody our existence and stars guide our way. If he didn't brave the shit or smell the fart.. We'd be lost. Topshelf journalism. God bless you, my dear fellow human.
Are you run by your emotions? Are you tried of thinking for yourself? Want to someone to blame all your problems for? Then surrender to the religion of identity politics.
I am working on a site to show like the Quantum duel slit experiment that humans have duel or quantum perception that truths are relative to one on one events, rapport and integrity rather than illusive political structures. Today with block chain from Estonia democracy and authentic ID we will be able to build consensus locally and nationally.
This is an interview of the highest calibre. Helen Pluckrose presents the issues we face in the task of rescuing the best of our culture with forensic clarity and intelligence. This interview is laden with memorable quotes and phrases that succinctly summarise the forces at play. It takes real intelligence and clarity of thought to present the complexities that underlie the tectonic plates of cultural dissonance with the accessibility that she achieves.
not to shabby yourself Doc!
I am going to watch this again - I'll be honest, I have no clue what she was talking about.
@@ballisticpotato8825 she was talking about dogs genitals
What a fantastic comment, thanks for chiming in and posting your thoughts. :)
Ironic isn't it. Ms Pluckrose, like James Lindsay, was attracted toward her unusual road in pursuit of the "new atheist" movement. (You could add Stephen Pinker to the group too.) They were attacking theism with argument - like good children of the Enligtenment - which put them in the cross hairs of the new postmodernists who don't seem to require reason. Christians also need to affirm objective truth. So here we are allies - Christians and atheists against the nihilist barbarians so prominent in our moment in the public arena.
Helen Pluckrose is perhaps the most articulate and nuanced thinker I have heard on the impact of postmodernism in the academy, especially the humanities, as well as the larger culture. I look forward to her book. Thank you so much for the quality of this interview.
I so value the integrity of John and his interviewing skills. Spot on every time! Thank you from the US.
Well put! Thanks to him and you from Europe!
Spot on every time. His guests are great. So too is John, my goodness, what a gift he is to us all.
@@petermathieson5692
Yes!
Excellent interview. Helen Pluckrose is one of the most sensible and intelligent voices in the world today--and John Anderson is a top notch interviewer. Well worth the time to watch!
No interruptions, structural questions and time to form answers. Lost arts in today's world.
Jordan and Candace need to pay attention
@@TJ-kk5zf Somewhat pedantic there Mr./Mrs. T J, but fair enough.
Underrated comment. I fully agree.
Do you even know what pedantic means? Those two interrupt too much and need to learn how to interview.
"we've forgotten how to defend the values of modernity" - preach sister!
What a brilliant Woman! You get a sense of unbiased, honest and open appraisal of the current environment and it's philosophical, ideological and scholarly underpinnings, the mark of a true intellectual and student of knowledge. Great interview.
John Anderson interviews are some of the best on TH-cam. I am always impressed by the guests and the tone of the conversation.
I'm always left with the question: if this is what one intelligent man on a small budget can produce, why do we (in Canada) pay upwards of 1.5 B$ to fund the CBC and the crap they consistently produce? Where is the value?
TofeldianSage or in Australia, the ABC. And I’m sure there’s lots in Britain would join the BBC to your question.
Mainstream media is agitProp (agitation propaganda).
See the Yuri Besmenov interviews for a full explanation.
@@PaulBKal At least the BBC is self funded with proceeds from TV licences which is voluntary.
He was the leader of The National Party for a time and Deputy PM.
@@coweatsman Au contraire, the BBC and Channel 4 both receive massive taxpayer funding on top of the license fee. A fee that is payable if you watch any TV at all.
I just love her, her astute and clear voice, and pleasant presence of personality. I hope she goes on Rogan!
Wonderful stuff. There is hope for this civilisation yet. Helen, you are my hero!
There's always great hope for civilisation. Just that we focus on the most negative, loud mouthed, empty vessels because they make more noise. The silent majority continues to work through all forms of trouble that the vocal minority brings.
I admire Anderson's interview style. An eye opening view into the power of higher education. Unsettling.
menckencynic because that is not the media’s agenda
Brilliant woman and masterfully constructed conversation. Thank you!
Mr. Anderson, you are an incredibly gifted interviewer. Thank you.
What an intelligent young woman! And a humble too!
She has a GOOD HEART. That's what matters most... I disagree with her economics, but agree totally with her ethics.
Recent events and the blatant hysteria have shown me the stupidity of my own tribalism and ideological loyalties. It is great to see people of all creeds and leanings speaking up against the mob mentality that has taken over huge swathes of society. I think one positive outcome of the last 10-15 years has been a resurgence of people trying to genuinely rediscover rationality and objectivity. who knows, we could be on the cusp of a re- enlightenment.
@@DP-cd5wr Fantastic comment, thanks for bothering to post :) What I'm noticing is that the old terminology I grew up with, just definitions and basic understandings of what it means to be 'left' and 'right' for example, don't really exist anymore. I can't use the same terms I would have in conversation in the 1990's for example. They mean nothing in 2020. This 'new Hard Left' have nothing to do with what it meant to be a 'left-wing liberal' when I was growing up. I don't know what the hell to call these Antifa-supporting, intersectionist, neo-Marxist who are going about behaving like textbook fascists whilst proclaiming themselves to be 'anti-fa' and ' here to burn books for the common good', here to censor things 'for the common good', here to rewrite language, law and indeed history. The goal posts have been surreptitiously moved a few inches, as if by thieves in the night. Finally I noticed too. Many of what were once accepted as traditionally basic Liberal values would now qualify a person as part of a 'right wing'. It's a really discombobulating time to be political engaged. But like yourself, I'm finding new understandings of the mechanisms at play within this culture war so in that way, you and I are both more philosophical and into transcending the tribal wars, analysing it all instead of enthusiastically throwing ourselves into every emotionally charged, sanctimonious little skirmish going.
@@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 agreed on all counts!
@@DP-cd5wr :D
Sadly obesity takes a great toll on the heart... I encouraged her to look into a whole food based diet.
Banking reform is not being discussed. Welfare reform is not being discussed. As food becomes less abundant reality will become clearer and clearer.. The RATOPOLIS EFFECT IS REAL...🤗😉
Great Interview, and excellent work that Helen is doing and speaking of.
A shout out to Peter B as well - keep up the good fight!
Would love to see more Helen Pluckrose and enjoyed John Anderson's approach {politics meets academia)
great pick for an interview, smart lady.
She is brilliant and we need a few more thousands like her in media and academia.
Oz needs John Anderson in LNP advisory group, immediately. He is brilliant too, and an endangered species.
Thank you, Helen.
Helen is amazing! Wicked smart.
My first time hearing her speak - BRAVO! - well spoken, deep knowledge and understanding of what's going on.
You are amazing, Helen! So focused and concise - I love listening to you speak.
27:09 to 30:15, she gives a quick overview of the history of postmodernism. Just for this, the video deserves a thousand thank yous!!
Simone Streeter I agree wholeheartedly! Postmodernism is one of those things like the Event Horizon in that the harder I try to understand it, the more I feel like I don't understand it at all. My brain seeps out of my ears! I really look forward to her book!
Helen is awesome. She’s not only clearly pointing out the problems with applied post modernism and defending modernism, she’s doing it from the left. It would be great if we had more people on the right defending modernism from the pre modernists who are increasing in number and volume on the right.
Sounds like a job for me before I dropped out of my PhD.
Post modernism is just the rigor mortis of modernism, carrying the aberrations of the latter to insane extremes
Top notch interview/conversation. This kind of high quality, intelligent content contributes significantly to the bit of sanity that sometimes seems to be hanging on by a thread in today’s polarized, information-saturated world.
Thank you John for introducing me to Helen Puckrose, a nice sharp knife in the draw !
Brilliant, Helen. More power to you to take the truth to more people, especially the young being educated, and arming them with the arguments against constructivist, identity, grievance and power ideology.
Isn't it wonderful to watch a rational and respectful discussion?
The choice to openly and honestly answer the question about her political views in the current climate takes massive balls to do. Awesome interview
This woman is amazing. Just found her videos on TH-cam and became an instant fan. This woman is an Einstein for sure.
One of the greatest academics in recent years, who gets torn apart by short form social media commenters who have clearly not remotely understood what she has said or attempt to do. Glad to see more intelligent takes here in this full interview.
This woman is my hero, she's doing God's work.
10:12 Oh man. I can't help but laugh every time at this story. John's face as she describes it is priceless.
As my good dad would say, Helen is obviously a smart cookie and very articulate speaker to boot. Sound personal politics she is prepared to defend are the icing on the cake for me.
"That here are no absolutes has become the new absolute." That is absolutely spot on description of Critical Theory. I've tried to explain this contradictory implication to some of its proponents, without much success unsurprisingly.
OMG! John- I just discovered Helen Pluckrose today and I feel like I've just discovered Jordan Peterson... THANK YOU!
Yes - I agree, she appears to be a genuine source of viable good information and understanding.
Check out the Lindsay and Boghossian interview on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I think you'll get alot out of it. It's unbelievable how many satirical exercises and intellectual pranks fly waaaaaay over the heads of the so called gatekeepers in our culture and in political office. ;)
Always thought-provoking conversation. Mr. Anderson lets his guests speak!!!!!
Helen Pluckrose is very clear and critical in speech and writing on postmodernism and wokeism. Her books are excellent.
Good on you Helen not only for expressing your ideas so clearly but for engaging in a discussion with someone who may be not from your side of politics.
We need more men and women like Helen to begin countering these insanities that are permeating our world.
The fact this only has 20,000 views is such a shame
26:40 - That's something I haven't heard anyone claim before. Interesting. About post-modernism coming out of the despair of the failure of marxism.
She's undoubtedly a smart, well read and thoughtful person but she does come out with a lot of bollocks too so my admiration for her intellect see saws a lot.
Yeah, I find her narrative driven and at times interlectly dishonest. Post-modernist objectivity isn't always her aim.
Fantastic talk. Thanks John and Helen.
Jon Anderson says "What does the "man in the street"............." whilst interviewing an accomplished woman, and I as a woman am watching this interview, and men and women are watching this interview. Talk about unconscious bias, or maybe not so unconscious, but the accepted norm
Only just discovered this wonderful woman. I want to read all the fraudulent papers that were published. It might be the funniest book of the year!
This affects students and HR policies.
Thank you for your clear and distinct answers Helen. Post modernism and the critical theories that have spun off of it, make for a complicated landscape that is hard for a layman (myself) to get a handle on without the proper study. You are a great help. Also, thank you for pushing back against John's assertion that secularity is part of the problem with these theories. I enjoy John's interviews but often hear him opportunely trying to wedge in his christian apologist tendencies.
Give this lady an MBE.
incredible lady. keep up the good work.
Hallelujah! Sense!
It was sad when Hong Kong was mentioned as an example of people standing up for democracy and freedom at 40:38. Now, China has swallowed up Hong Kong, and all freedoms of speech are gone 🇭🇰 😭
A true humble heroine.🙌🙌🙌🙌👌
That was wonderful, thank you.
Courageous lady. Bravo.
So she wants her cake and eat it too? Helen have you heard if you give a mouse a cookie it will ask for a glass of milk. Thus, giving up his freedom for a dependence on his cookie and milk provider.
John Anderson should have been the PM instead of John Howard. I say that as a Keating fan
Her book "Cynical Theories" is a great read.
John and Helen would prefer not to judge anyone's motives, but, like MLK jr in his I Have A Dream speech, I'm judging.
This lady deserves a medal, very clear thinker
I just found this from another video. Feels almost more relative than it did 4 years ago. This is interesting AND like other people mentioned, she is really clear on what she is saying making it easier to follow. I got to say it is making me think even if she is just skimming the surface here.
John's reaction to Helen's self-deprecating joke at 15:17 :D
The best explanations and clarifications of post modernism I've come across to date. I believe the sterling work of Helen and her two colleagues (check out their brilliant and amusing interview with Joe Rogan) is crying out to be made into a Netflix documentary complete with those that regularly draw upon the type of dubious research these brave patriots of academia have exposed.
I’m my opinion there has been a fast tracking of the development of what I’d call Interpretative Theory, into Instrumental or Applied Theory.
I taught and encouraged the range of Critical Theory as a way or lens to see, interpret and understand my discipline area, Urban Design.
I still support people experimenting with any and all theories, but there needs to be reality checks on them believing that the lens is more than it is.
A brilliant quote I can’t remember the author of, is that a ‘critical theoretical lens should never be thought of as a corneal transplant’
Great interview.
26:30 The First Wave of Post Modernists became CONSPICUOUS during the late '60s, but had started entering the universities at least 20 years earlier, waiting for senior staff to retire by the early to mid '60s.
Fantastic explanations of subjects I was unsure. Now I know why I dislike so much of modern movements.
Amazing
I completely disagree with her economic views but what an intelligent erudite interviewee. Would like to have seen her debate economics. Fabulous interview.
Well done. Thank you
The interviewer says "George Orwell wouldn't have describe himself as a conservative" Errr yea, that's like saying Margaret Thatcher wouldn't describe herself as a socialist 😂
Below are two separate quotes from Orwell and I quote verbatim:
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism as I understand it."
.......
“For perhaps ten years past I have had some grasp of the real nature of capitalist society. I have seen British imperialism at work in Burma, and I have seen something of the effects of poverty and unemployment in Britain…. One has got to be actively a Socialist, not merely sympathetic to Socialism, or one plays into the hands of our always active enemies.”
The latter quote is from
- George Orwell, “Why I Joined the Independent Labour Party”
42:12. Another valuable attempt to define something! He describes his idea of 'civility.' A robust virtue indeed!
Great interview with a fantastic guest, btw, second paragraph in intro second line. Should be sought .....
Now he is really pissing me off, "If nothing else gets taken from this conversation, it's that ..........". Well that's an effective way to diminish her work. Jon Anderson, the many messages and issues are readily understandable. A particularly astute point is just that. We can take it all away, all at the same time. Her work stands. Explain for the "layman"...for christ sake, Helen Pluckrose is a clear communicator and her work easily understandable, Doh! His commentary is littered with male bias, no excuse for that. But then again, he is a conservative.........22.30......she didn't let it all slip by, but did he get the message?
There is already a strong push back against current cultural orthodoxy in the University setting and the pandemic is bringing it faster. People have gotten pretty cynical about the role of colleges role in determining policy or improving lives and the DNC has lost a lot of respect on the left as well. I think so many of us are politically and socially homeless that Bernie's popularity was just a hint of what we are hungry for and we all watched as the superficial use of identity politics torpedoed his campaign. The continued importance of the reality of disparities is also pushing this force in society. We need paths of solidarity not shame.
Aww ... "the Audience is the average person", I love her and it's so necessary. This lady should run the BBC. I like her liberalness but can we keep the traditional family and stop attacking it.
WOW She super Ethical, I so Admire Her. I can't believe that this kind of stuff would be propagated, giving rise to soo much misinformation and false-information people are getting judged over these kinds of bias-information which the academics and politicians are publishing, gosh I am appalled to think lives are being ruined and laws created due to these kinds of happenings.
Hello - Instead of loaded Language and Controlling the Narrative let's just be, body language is soo under-estimated and actually shows how we feel and think and is universal.
"Can't rely on anything" - Let's just be mindful.
Identity is about personalities of the mind. - The mind is subjective how can we create a society around it, let learn how we learn, and how we behave. And start ensuring we have a fair and equal system for our children so they are able to create a fairer world. This has to be imperative.
She says she's a liberal, but seeking out the most extreme examples for your arguments is a common conservative tactic.
41:02 I got distracted, but what is that floating past through the window?
If I were recruiting for M16 I'd pull you in for a stealthy interview, LOL. You have precisely the kind of eye for details that many others would miss entirely. I love it! But I confess, I don't know what that was either now that I've gone and studied it. :D
@@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 Haha, i'm pretty sure its just a crane load or so my intuitive deductions suggest.
@@Spagghetii Well I am disappointed. I was hoping it was something wildly exotic like an airborne merkin send adrift by an over-engineered wind machine on the set of a niche-genre, roof top, porno movie shoot. Boo! :D
@@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 I could be wrong as I haven't been recruited by mi6 yet...
@@Spagghetii I believe in you! One day you will drive an Aston Martin Vanquish and drink martinis that are shaken and never stirred. I will now refer to you as 'Agent 4102'. ;)
Helen Pluckrose, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Dr. Stephen Hicks, ... who else critiques post-modernism that's worth checking out?
Check out Dr. Gad Saad too.
Stephen Pinker, Peter Hitchens, Jonathan Haidt, James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, Bret Weinstein, Sam Harris. These people come from very diverse backgrounds, some are avowed leftists, while others are firmly on the right, yet they have all done remarkable work dismantling post-modernism
sprret : Pinker, Haidt, Weinstein, ... I’ll check them all out, so thanks!
Douglas Murray
Once upon a time social sciences did useful things like help design buildings and spaces that are more easily accessible for everyone from the young to the old and of most every ability.
Now, well I'm surprised they're not ashamed
Who is the (Critical Thinking teaching) university professor under attack?
At which university is he tenured?
TIA
Peter Boghossian at Portland State.
Nice score, too. Makes me thing Lady Mary will soon be sweeping down the staircase.
So academia should be taken as seriously as the Tour de France. Got it .
I really admire what she is doing, but I think she gives these charlatans too much credit. I don’t think they are misguided, I think they are evil.
John Anderson for prime minister!
The pendulum swings one way. And then it swings the other way. The equilibrium is constant.
HELEN !! FREAKEN SWEET!!!
"There's been a marked decline in objectivity of thinking."
Jesus Christ this is true.
You two are fantastic! And if any of you would like to see what I wrote in response to the cluster that Identity Politics have turned the world into in 2020, and on my firm stance in support of free speech, here you go:
www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
Helen young people should not go to University and study the humanities. Why waste your life when these university departments are over run with these lunatics. Starve them of oxygen and they will have to reform! The worst part is you are still expecting people to spend a fortune for this privilege! ridiculous!!!!
How do they define scholarship? I've always thought of scholarships as money or a grant to attend a school.
Helen is great on twitter
There was an article in The Australian about a week ago is transcript of the speech she gave at the Ramsay Institute of Western Civilization (Sydney). Well worth it! www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/the-problem-with-grievance-studies/news-story/674aefae465e3b26b9690f2997510d33
I wonder what she thinks about the Australian Liberal Party now?
The interviewer is a rare gem in a sea of shit..a star in a sky of fart. Yet jewelry embody our existence and stars guide our way.
If he didn't brave the shit or smell the fart.. We'd be lost.
Topshelf journalism. God bless you, my dear fellow human.
Are you run by your emotions? Are you tried of thinking for yourself? Want to someone to blame all your problems for?
Then surrender to the religion of identity politics.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO, IT ALL CLICKS NOW AHHHHGGGGHHH
Why did he see the need to dump on atheism at the beginning?
I am working on a site to show like the Quantum duel slit experiment that humans have duel or quantum perception that truths are relative to one on one events, rapport and integrity rather than illusive political structures. Today with block chain from Estonia democracy and authentic ID we will be able to build consensus locally and nationally.
Eminently reasonable woman.
Came here for the intro
I’m atheist but respect religion. I’m pro freedom. Not woke. He kind of oversimplified “tribes” at the top,