Wow! I enjoyed every second of that talk. You were just missing a campfire, a couple of comfortable chairs and a favorite drink… Really special guest. I could have listened to you two for hours.
We raised Muscovy ducks in our backyard in Phoenix for several years! Wish I would've known! :) Love the Zenbivy system! Our whole family of 5 has them and use them every chance we get. Can't say enough good things about them.
It was enjoyable watching someone that knows so much about his craft enthusiastically talk about it. This is like History of Modern Backpacking Gear 101 and this man was involved in all of it or knew someone who was. 👍
I really enjoy a couple pieces of Zen Bivy gear and they are on the expensive side but definitely innovative. Not all of their gear is for me but his passion for backpacking community seems genuine. Very interested in the tent. It sounds like the design will address some peeves i have with all trekking pole tents. Enjoyed the conversation. Thanks DB!
Love my ZenBivy. Total game changer. The tent? No so much. But maybe I'm not the intended user. Just glad that there are innovators like this that are keeping things fresh.
How he is talking about being comfortable in the wet is why I love hammock camping. I can hang out under my tarp and not be cut off. I can see out and be connected.
First you always have to make sure you have two trees which in some areas isn't going to happen and then you not only have to set that up but you also have to set up a tarp if you're in the Northwest because it rains all the time or there's heavy do. I must be missing something cuz I just don't get it. But then I'm old
@@Learningthetruth7 with tents you need to find flat ground and then after you set it up you have to put up a rain fly, blow up air mattress and then get down on the ground and crawl in. In my hammock I can walk under my tarp and sit
I really enjoyed this conversation. I got my REI membership in 1988. I also got a new girlfriend who almost left me when I bought a $500 Sierra Designs tent. The morning after the first thunderstorm brought me back in her better graces!
I used the zen bevy light quilt set up for the PCT. There is nothing better! I could listen to him all day long! He needs more interviews! I am looking forward to this new tent!!❤❤
.05 percent do the green river lakes to elkheart part through hike in the Winds. Compass and maps but it goes 4 to 6 times over the divide. Lost count. Very good adventure.
I’m pretty happy with my newer hubba hubba 2p tent. I have several DCF tents, every big Agnes backpacking tent, several REI tents, durston, Nemo, and a hilleberg soulo (the worst ever)…. And I find myself grabbing my hubba hubba the most. It’s just a perfect tent. It’s just under 3lbs without the stuff sacks. Not bad at all.
Soulo the worst ever? You're doing it wrong, then. If you're on an expedition in really harsh conditions, that will be a better tent than any of the others you list.
@@pinkfloydhomer it has terrible ventilation. Horrible condensation. It’s only good for winter camping. I own it. I’m not doing it wrong. It’s strong, yes, but it’s like sleeping in a garbage bag as far as ventilation.
@@jeromebullard6123 I'm not sure if you have red label or black label, but sure, they are not ideal or needed in a hot, humid environment. But if you have to deal with any kind of harsher conditions, colder weather, winds, rain, snow etc, the soulo will stand up to a lot more. And if you check out soulo reviews on TH-cam, they don't all have unsolvable problems with condensation and ventilation. There's always a trade off between ventilation and insulation.
Think the name of the MSR tent he couldn’t think of was the Fast Stash which replaced the missing link. As soon as I saw the picture of his tent I’m like “a brown Fast Stash”. I loved my MSR Fast Stash, it was a bit heavy cause it wasn’t silnylon but PU coated, super stretched in the rain. Only used it one season cause the inside turned to sticky goo over the winter. MSR wouldn’t warranty it like they would not warrant the early Hubba Hubba I bought that became sticky. Never bought another MSR tent but I loved the Fast Stash design and actually used it more for walk in camp sites than backpacking. Hope he uses a silpoly and I’ll bite. 😊
Lol hes talking about the hyperlight echo 2 when dan says it was discontinued which was actually genius and has become my favorite of all the tents I've used. Im someone who sleeps in a tent 300 days of the year.
You were talking about smell. No mention of merino wool. I can wear a merino wool tshirt for days without smelling. Going to look into your designs: bed and tent. What a genius!
Love the content DB. Just a suggestion, a little Joe Rogan style video/visuals for your audience during interview, a pop-up screen, showing some of these old designs that can be referenced.
He criticized his own tent as well for this reason and said normally he wouldn’t take an old design. He made the exception because he wants to finish the effort he started long ago because his great friend has dementia. He wants to perfect this tent before his friend dies.
His one comment on the water bladder in the back pocket of your backpack... I just did that on my Yosemite trip because slipping that frigging bladder back into its slot after filling required pretty much unpacking my pack.. Putting it in the back I honestly could not tell the difference in weight distribution but really enjoyed the ease of using it.
I got the original ZenBivy bed when it came out and bought a few more since for family and myself. I’m really intrigued by the tent. The Tarptent double rainbow double wall is currently my favorite so I’m interested to see how this compares to it. Great video, love hearing you both talk about everything!
This has been incredible. One of a kind for me. I 'cut my teeth' on Osprey and boots and once I begin a long trail my world changed. Am using a Gossamer Gear Mariposa but I saw the deficiencies before I took it out the first time. Honestly prefer a light weight Osprey that I'm familiar with. I do like my Sportcross shoes and don't miss boots but haven't found my fav tent. Used a UL2 Copper Spur and liked the ease of set up if I didn't want to use stakes but yes it was HEAVY.
Best tent ever is the REI 2 plus. I've been willing to leave other things at home just to take that lovely tent when there's two of us on the trail together.
GDI!!!! I ruined my dinner listening to this. love the history (as a walrus inheritor). Specs on the "tent ", did I miss them ? I was liberated by MLD Patrol (discontinued) tarp. At 60 years of age, I like to be standing fully erect during a deluge when I am packing up to head out for another 20+ mile day on the East Coast. I came across a fast packer in NY, two years ago, with a one of a kind garage build "shelter" that I cant get over. It is a solo shelter, material dependent for wt, but makes great sense for 3 seasons. One pole or two. I'd use it anywhere I didn't have to carve a shelf out of the snow (snow cave, does no one use them any longer???? I slept in one for two consecutive nights in VA) . 4 stakes.... I'm just sayin'....
Great chat, cool fella. I have both the Missing Link (my favourite) and the Flylite and am keen to see the new ZenBivy take on the Missing link! Love that tent!
I have the hyperlite mountain gear unbound 2 tent. Got it during a 20% off sale. After using a lanshan 2 for a few sessons, was ready for a lighter option. Picked it over the duplex since it seemed to be more storm worthy. When i block out time for a trip and get the permit 6 months out, i go rain or shine. Like the idea of sitting in a tent when it's raining, but still having a view to the outside.
Osprey backpack that I super over built and will last me till I pass. Not lightweight at all but can carry 50 pounds 20 pounds of that being water. Needing everything bit of that water hiking in Texas during this summer.
After losing 180 lbs, I still hate mummy sleeping bags but am afraid of spinning hundreds of dollars on a bag that I can not fit or sleep in. Would love a great sleep system, but still can not waste money on a zinby system. I'm trying to get ready for Grand Canyon Rim to Rim next year. Hiking every weekend.
Consider just buying their sheet. I pair mine w Nemo pad , and if u can sew, add hooks to EE or a UGQ quilt for the same set up -waaay cheaper, same design.
Great discussion, very interesting, Thanks for posting. Couple thoughts. USFS requiring BEAR canisters, Pack designers need to design for them, as more parks will require them in future. Tents, rain, snow, cold, bugs, and light weight all important. But, 2 - 25 inch pads should fit in a two person tent PERIOD. 60 years of trips to BWCAW in MN have convinced me manufactures need to incorporate a system of gear that meshes. Round pots and square pockets - waisted space & weight. 19 inch collapsed tent poles and 13 inch wide packs - WHY? I suspect every outdoor enthusiast can add an item.
Everythings that you two talk about, I have read and see in a 1958 (re-edited in 1978) book written by CALVIN RUTSTRUM titles "THE NEW WAY OF THE WILDERNESS" . That man was a woodsman traveler that knew how to LIVE in the wilderness and not just pass through it. Is tents were all supported by a ridge line and meet all criteria discuss in the video. If you put a hand on that book you would learn ways that were perfected by long forest travelers when the wild was not with trails and maps.
The new tent looks promising, although lost on me as a hammock camper. I really enjoyed the discussion on many levels, particularly about innovation in the industry. He calls the outdoor industry out for really just innovating on materials. This weekend while on a 14-mile hike I pondered how to innovate the backpack. I see vest straps, no hip belts and waist packs in vogue now. I wonder if there's something to be said for a 3-compartment over the head human carry system. Thin tube on the back with a chest harness, connected to a front chest storage area (like a low profile side entry PFD) connected to a front facing waist pack. In order to innovate one must disrupt. Of course the everyday design of simple things have evolved the backpack into 2 basic styles too. >shrug
Front carry and wide shoulder straps, such as those often seen on Fastpaks, are a hotter solution for the benefit they provide. That will limit their appeal to the larger hiking/ backpacking crowd. A lighter weight, external frame with a slightly more innovative design than those of the 70s era combined with new materials for the pack bag could easily result in a sub 3lb backpack that would carry very nicely and handle a bear can with ease. Build it, like Kelty did, so you can position the pack high or low on the frame depending on terrain and method of locomotion, i.e. foot vs skis.
I had one of the original ZPacks Hexamid Twin tents. It was a lot like their current AltaPlex or Plex Solo tents, except it was deep enough for two people because you used a half-height trekking pole to support the back wall. It sucked because it had just the one door, and the person in the back would have to climb over the person near to the door to get in and out I foresee the same problem with Glavin's "Missing Link" derived tent: with two people and one door, the person in the back who has to get up to pee in the middle of the night has to climb over the person closest to the door. That's gonna be a big turn off for people who are used to a tent with two doors and two vestibules.
Also - Big Agnes I think has addressed the issue with getting rain in your tent when you open it. At least with the latest Copper Spur designs, you can "porch out" the vestibule doors like a tarp over the doors.
Switzerland is full of mountains, and there is a strong culture of trekking for people living in countrysides. BUT the culture of sleeping outside is almost inexistant, and the few Swiss people that do sleep outside only have freestanding tents. Almost nobody ever head of trekking pole tents
in terms of back pack innovation, what ever happened to the "under pocket" that isolated the bottom 1/4 to 1/3 of the pack as a separate compartment for choice items like dirty, quick access, or shelter-related gear? this single pouch modern sea bag design doesnt make sense to me.
As a long-time bag and quilt user, all the over the head stuff kills me. Get a freakin beanie or down hat and a neck gaiter. It's lighter, warmer, moves with you, and there's zero claustrophobia. Most of the time, i just take the hood off my jacket and sleep in that.
Apparently they've been introduced there and are being raised for their meat. 80% of the world's duck meat is harvested in China. This (duck down) will be a new market for a byproduct of the duck meat industry.
Wow! I enjoyed every second of that talk. You were just missing a campfire, a couple of comfortable chairs and a favorite drink…
Really special guest. I could have listened to you two for hours.
100% agree with you. This was so interesting. 😊
Hear, hear!
1:00:15 Timestamp for when they actually talk about the tent.
Thank you. I hate it when folks bury the lead story in the bottom of the bag.
1:00:49 is when the actual picture of the prototype appears.
Thank you thank you thank you
@@wanttogo1958thank you!! Totally didn’t think they were going to relieve us of our curiosity and here you are to save the day. 🙏🏻
Your backyard reviews with the designers as well as these in depth interviews are putting your channel in another category. SO good.
We raised Muscovy ducks in our backyard in Phoenix for several years! Wish I would've known! :)
Love the Zenbivy system! Our whole family of 5 has them and use them every chance we get. Can't say enough good things about them.
It was enjoyable watching someone that knows so much about his craft enthusiastically talk about it. This is like History of Modern Backpacking Gear 101 and this man was involved in all of it or knew someone who was. 👍
I really enjoy a couple pieces of Zen Bivy gear and they are on the expensive side but definitely innovative. Not all of their gear is for me but his passion for backpacking community seems genuine.
Very interested in the tent. It sounds like the design will address some peeves i have with all trekking pole tents.
Enjoyed the conversation. Thanks DB!
Damn Dan! Probably the best video I have seen on the decades of inside backpacking! You need to do more like this. ULA .. ZPacks etc
Wow dude this is fricken cool! Loving the history
Dan if you have him back....please do a "whats in my pack" with him!!! Pretty please!
Love my ZenBivy. Total game changer. The tent? No so much. But maybe I'm not the intended user. Just glad that there are innovators like this that are keeping things fresh.
Best conversation w an out enthusiast ever! I live in Oregon & hike in & out rain all year!! I also own a 2021 light bed from Zb! 👍🏻👍🏻🔥
Listening to this i am just blown awy by how many products hes had part in creating that I have or still use.
What a great conversation! Ive been following outdoor gear for years - and Zenbivy from their start!
What a lifetime of fun projects.
Thanks Dan
Awesome interview. Really enjoyed the history and banter.
How he is talking about being comfortable in the wet is why I love hammock camping. I can hang out under my tarp and not be cut off. I can see out and be connected.
I don't get hammocks.
First you always have to make sure you have two trees which in some areas isn't going to happen and then you not only have to set that up but you also have to set up a tarp if you're in the Northwest because it rains all the time or there's heavy do. I must be missing something cuz I just don't get it. But then I'm old
@@Learningthetruth7 with tents you need to find flat ground and then after you set it up you have to put up a rain fly, blow up air mattress and then get down on the ground and crawl in.
In my hammock I can walk under my tarp and sit
@@Learningthetruth7 hammocks are particularly poor with the older crowd, who don't like getting on the ground anymore.
I really enjoyed this conversation. I got my REI membership in 1988. I also got a new girlfriend who almost left me when I bought a $500 Sierra Designs tent. The morning after the first thunderstorm brought me back in her better graces!
In-person, beautifully lit and edited interview with such an amazing persons and company! I love this so much!!!
This is the episode that is pulling me back to your channel since the Grand Canyon.
Glavin! I remember chatting about these trekking pole tents with you in your back yard 20 years ago!
Great video. I'm old enough to remember all of the older brands you talked about. This guy is a gem.
I used the zen bevy light quilt set up for the PCT. There is nothing better! I could listen to him all day long! He needs more interviews! I am looking forward to this new tent!!❤❤
.05 percent do the green river lakes to elkheart part through hike in the Winds. Compass and maps but it goes 4 to 6 times over the divide. Lost count. Very good adventure.
I’m pretty happy with my newer hubba hubba 2p tent. I have several DCF tents, every big Agnes backpacking tent, several REI tents, durston, Nemo, and a hilleberg soulo (the worst ever)…. And I find myself grabbing my hubba hubba the most. It’s just a perfect tent. It’s just under 3lbs without the stuff sacks. Not bad at all.
Soulo the worst ever? You're doing it wrong, then. If you're on an expedition in really harsh conditions, that will be a better tent than any of the others you list.
@@pinkfloydhomer it has terrible ventilation. Horrible condensation. It’s only good for winter camping. I own it. I’m not doing it wrong. It’s strong, yes, but it’s like sleeping in a garbage bag as far as ventilation.
@@jeromebullard6123 I'm not sure if you have red label or black label, but sure, they are not ideal or needed in a hot, humid environment. But if you have to deal with any kind of harsher conditions, colder weather, winds, rain, snow etc, the soulo will stand up to a lot more. And if you check out soulo reviews on TH-cam, they don't all have unsolvable problems with condensation and ventilation. There's always a trade off between ventilation and insulation.
Great interview, I always enjoy your style of banter and Michael was super interesting.
Fantastic interview! Very interesting. Thanks very much Dan and Michael.
I need to work for Zenbivy doing R&D. I'm CONSTANTLY revising gear and designing. I did that all the time in aerospace as well.
Wow! He is such a smart guy and innovator! Thanks for such a great interview!
Duuude I still tell EVERYONE to go for the sierra back country bed! Now I know the zen bivy is next!
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Loved this interview…. The tent is very reminiscent of a woodsman’s lean to tent . Retro .. very cool 😎
Where in the video, time stamp, Can I see the tent?
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@@ashleycox5288 thx
What a great interview and chat!
Think the name of the MSR tent he couldn’t think of was the Fast Stash which replaced the missing link. As soon as I saw the picture of his tent I’m like “a brown Fast Stash”. I loved my MSR Fast Stash, it was a bit heavy cause it wasn’t silnylon but PU coated, super stretched in the rain. Only used it one season cause the inside turned to sticky goo over the winter. MSR wouldn’t warranty it like they would not warrant the early Hubba Hubba I bought that became sticky. Never bought another MSR tent but I loved the Fast Stash design and actually used it more for walk in camp sites than backpacking. Hope he uses a silpoly and I’ll bite. 😊
Lol hes talking about the hyperlight echo 2 when dan says it was discontinued which was actually genius and has become my favorite of all the tents I've used. Im someone who sleeps in a tent 300 days of the year.
You were talking about smell. No mention of merino wool. I can wear a merino wool tshirt for days without smelling.
Going to look into your designs: bed and tent. What a genius!
Love the content DB. Just a suggestion, a little Joe Rogan style video/visuals for your audience during interview, a pop-up screen, showing some of these old designs that can be referenced.
I really enjoy my Durston tent. It is so nice to setup in the rain. And, way easier than any other trekking pole tents I've used.
Durston really seems a nice tent, except maybe the "drop" version. I will stick with my Lightheart gear tents.
Kinda weird how he criticizes hyperlite packs and Durston tents being based on old designs, but his tent design is based on a 30yo design
He criticized his own tent as well for this reason and said normally he wouldn’t take an old design. He made the exception because he wants to finish the effort he started long ago because his great friend has dementia. He wants to perfect this tent before his friend dies.
His version is 30yo, but that design goes back (at least) to Roman times. In the 1800s they called it a baker tent.
@@1519Spring there aren’t any new ideas
His one comment on the water bladder in the back pocket of your backpack... I just did that on my Yosemite trip because slipping that frigging bladder back into its slot after filling required pretty much unpacking my pack.. Putting it in the back I honestly could not tell the difference in weight distribution but really enjoyed the ease of using it.
I absolutely love my Sierra Designs Flashlight 1 UL tent. If I could get it made in DCF it would be the ultimate tent!
I got the original ZenBivy bed when it came out and bought a few more since for family and myself. I’m really intrigued by the tent. The Tarptent double rainbow double wall is currently my favorite so I’m interested to see how this compares to it. Great video, love hearing you both talk about everything!
This has been incredible. One of a kind for me. I 'cut my teeth' on Osprey and boots and once I begin a long trail my world changed. Am using a Gossamer Gear Mariposa but I saw the deficiencies before I took it out the first time. Honestly prefer a light weight Osprey that I'm familiar with. I do like my Sportcross shoes and don't miss boots but haven't found my fav tent. Used a UL2 Copper Spur and liked the ease of set up if I didn't want to use stakes but yes it was HEAVY.
Hey Dan great video . That tent reminds me of my set up , I'm using a one tigris 2 person mesh tent with a tarp and Ridgeline
Best tent ever is the REI 2 plus. I've been willing to leave other things at home just to take that lovely tent when there's two of us on the trail together.
GDI!!!! I ruined my dinner listening to this. love the history (as a walrus inheritor). Specs on the "tent ", did I miss them ? I was liberated by MLD Patrol (discontinued) tarp. At 60 years of age, I like to be standing fully erect during a deluge when I am packing up to head out for another 20+ mile day on the East Coast. I came across a fast packer in NY, two years ago, with a one of a kind garage build "shelter" that I cant get over. It is a solo shelter, material dependent for wt, but makes great sense for 3 seasons. One pole or two. I'd use it anywhere I didn't have to carve a shelf out of the snow (snow cave, does no one use them any longer???? I slept in one for two consecutive nights in VA) . 4 stakes.... I'm just sayin'....
Plus, black and red is my favorite color combination
Great interview! So interesting hearing about different products and the ark of zen bivy
Great chat, cool fella.
I have both the Missing Link (my favourite) and the Flylite and am keen to see the new ZenBivy take on the Missing link! Love that tent!
I’m 55 and I really like my archaul 70. Only owned 3 backpacks in my life.
I have a zenBivy system. I generally like it. I am wide and thick, even when not fat and works so much better than a sleeping bag for me.
I have the hyperlite mountain gear unbound 2 tent. Got it during a 20% off sale.
After using a lanshan 2 for a few sessons, was ready for a lighter option.
Picked it over the duplex since it seemed to be more storm worthy.
When i block out time for a trip and get the permit 6 months out, i go rain or shine. Like the idea of sitting in a tent when it's raining, but still having a view to the outside.
I’m REAL excited about the -20° Zenbivy.
"....like a floating coffin." Man that's a good description, Dan.
For bugs Carry a head net when hiking and a sea to summit net pyramid for bug free rest stops or lunch break also less obnoxious in shelters.
Osprey backpack that I super over built and will last me till I pass. Not lightweight at all but can carry 50 pounds 20 pounds of that being water. Needing everything bit of that water hiking in Texas during this summer.
Nice talk, but would have loved to ask if Zenbivi will be making their sleep systems for us over 190cm.
Really really intetesting
Thanks Dan
Great interview!
The Elon Jobs (Steven Musk?) of the outdoor industry. Love this dude!
Michael should try the Mystery Ranch Bridger. It's amazing
After losing 180 lbs, I still hate mummy sleeping bags but am afraid of spinning hundreds of dollars on a bag that I can not fit or sleep in. Would love a great sleep system, but still can not waste money on a zinby system. I'm trying to get ready for Grand Canyon Rim to Rim next year. Hiking every weekend.
Consider just buying their sheet. I pair mine w Nemo pad , and if u can sew, add hooks to EE or a UGQ quilt for the same set up -waaay cheaper, same design.
Awesome. Such a cool story
I always wanted one of these tents. I'm not young, and they were even before me time.
Will be interesting to see if he comes up with a balance pack design like the Aarn packs here in New Zealand, they just make ergonomic sense.
Wow what a story he has to share, super interesting.
I like ultralight gear as a lighter carrying weight is more optimal for doing epic hikes than comfort.
Great discussion, very interesting, Thanks for posting. Couple thoughts. USFS requiring BEAR canisters, Pack designers need to design for them, as more parks will require them in future. Tents, rain, snow, cold, bugs, and light weight all important. But, 2 - 25 inch pads should fit in a two person tent PERIOD. 60 years of trips to BWCAW in MN have convinced me manufactures need to incorporate a system of gear that meshes. Round pots and square pockets - waisted space & weight. 19 inch collapsed tent poles and 13 inch wide packs - WHY? I suspect every outdoor enthusiast can add an item.
Everythings that you two talk about, I have read and see in a 1958 (re-edited in 1978) book written by CALVIN RUTSTRUM titles "THE NEW WAY OF THE WILDERNESS" . That man was a woodsman traveler that knew how to LIVE in the wilderness and not just pass through it. Is tents were all supported by a ridge line and meet all criteria discuss in the video. If you put a hand on that book you would learn ways that were perfected by long forest travelers when the wild was not with trails and maps.
The new tent looks promising, although lost on me as a hammock camper.
I really enjoyed the discussion on many levels, particularly about innovation in the industry. He calls the outdoor industry out for really just innovating on materials.
This weekend while on a 14-mile hike I pondered how to innovate the backpack. I see vest straps, no hip belts and waist packs in vogue now. I wonder if there's something to be said for a 3-compartment over the head human carry system. Thin tube on the back with a chest harness, connected to a front chest storage area (like a low profile side entry PFD) connected to a front facing waist pack.
In order to innovate one must disrupt. Of course the everyday design of simple things have evolved the backpack into 2 basic styles too. >shrug
Front carry and wide shoulder straps, such as those often seen on Fastpaks, are a hotter solution for the benefit they provide. That will limit their appeal to the larger hiking/ backpacking crowd. A lighter weight, external frame with a slightly more innovative design than those of the 70s era combined with new materials for the pack bag could easily result in a sub 3lb backpack that would carry very nicely and handle a bear can with ease. Build it, like Kelty did, so you can position the pack high or low on the frame depending on terrain and method of locomotion, i.e. foot vs skis.
I have one of the old orange missing links from MSR, used it for motorcycle camping.
I had one of the original ZPacks Hexamid Twin tents. It was a lot like their current AltaPlex or Plex Solo tents, except it was deep enough for two people because you used a half-height trekking pole to support the back wall. It sucked because it had just the one door, and the person in the back would have to climb over the person near to the door to get in and out
I foresee the same problem with Glavin's "Missing Link" derived tent: with two people and one door, the person in the back who has to get up to pee in the middle of the night has to climb over the person closest to the door. That's gonna be a big turn off for people who are used to a tent with two doors and two vestibules.
Also - Big Agnes I think has addressed the issue with getting rain in your tent when you open it. At least with the latest Copper Spur designs, you can "porch out" the vestibule doors like a tarp over the doors.
I agree (this is Mike Glavin). This new tent is a 1 person only.
Try testing your minus 5 and 20 quilts with the military! Grunts need that sort of stuff. Especially if yours can reduce weight!
Switzerland is full of mountains, and there is a strong culture of trekking for people living in countrysides. BUT the culture of sleeping outside is almost inexistant, and the few Swiss people that do sleep outside only have freestanding tents. Almost nobody ever head of trekking pole tents
2 quality humans!!
❤❤ very interesting, loved it!
How does it fair in windy conditions?
Catenary cuts are important along edges many times, ive flattened 3d meshes in FreeCAD, i have sewing machines. It isnt that hard.
Very interesting discussion
Gosh, I was curious about the poles, but 90 minutes? No way!
i love hammock camping out of the rain
in terms of back pack innovation, what ever happened to the "under pocket" that isolated the bottom 1/4 to 1/3 of the pack as a separate compartment for choice items like dirty, quick access, or shelter-related gear? this single pouch modern sea bag design doesnt make sense to me.
I have the trekking pole tent from Walrus with the mesh A-frame liner . God I am old.
Dan, I'm worried about your head forward rounded shoulders posture. What are your primary and secondary dx?
MSR Missing Link is still amazing.
The future of trekking pole tents:
The Amazing 10' x 10' Tarp !!
You just can't beat it.
And in sil-nylon, it can weigh 1 lb.
I owned an Andanista, then I moved up to a Cilo Gear Pack, Now I have reverted to a 2008 Arcteryx Bora. I just cant do modern packs!
I wsnt that tent. Recalling my best camping experiences it's been some improvised version of that tent. Something under a tarp.
Hey Dan, I was looking on Nemo’s website and saw the Dragonfly Osmo tent and was interested. Do you think there is any way to make a video about it?
As a long-time bag and quilt user, all the over the head stuff kills me. Get a freakin beanie or down hat and a neck gaiter. It's lighter, warmer, moves with you, and there's zero claustrophobia. Most of the time, i just take the hood off my jacket and sleep in that.
I'm a fan of sleeping in a beanie. I also like to use a puffy like a scarf or neck baffle.
That was a great video
I like the tent design but have a LOT of questions.
Shoutouts to the -20c and lower campers! My record is -56c for 4 days, whats yours?
-20f at night for 2 nights with bivy sacks no tent!
Only made it to -16c, but it was in GA USA, where -20 and below is very rare.
Is there going to be a part 2 with the tent when it gets released?
Interesting video, but what is the tent in the thumbnail?
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Great conversation. Dan is a damn good interviewer, where did that come from??
Still have and use the multi fuel stoves !978
Man i really like the interviews. But you need to dial down the commercials. Every two minutes man.
Yt Premium is worth it. No ads (sponsor reads, but no ads inserted by YT).
Give me your -20 F bag! I want that for mountaineering (and rescue work) very much!
Muscovy duck is originally south and Central America. Introduced to Florida in the 1960s. So I’m confused by the china part
Apparently they've been introduced there and are being raised for their meat. 80% of the world's duck meat is harvested in China. This (duck down) will be a new market for a byproduct of the duck meat industry.
I assume that is the country with the most consumption so that makes it the best ecological source for the down.
@@wanttogo1958ok Debbie downer. Enjoy your life
I love my Dragonfly stove, but think it could be made lighter.
Hey Dan 👋🏽, what do you think about Thrudark brand not sure about paying that much for a jacket ,thanks .
They call him ""Left Turn" Michael Glavin" because his stories always take an unexpected left turn 😄