We Test the Terrifying Ultra-Perforator Shotgun Slug
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we test out a precision 12ga slug designed and fabricated by a viewer from California. We had a number of failures initially, but after some re-calibrations, managed to save the day and get the slugs functioning quite well.
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If people understood just how dangerous the Welsh Rabbit is, they would understand the need for this slug. Many knights have fallen to this savage beast, and they're usually hunted by elite forces using very specialised hand grenades from Antioch. These have been in short supply due to global supply challenges, so it's good that there's now something completely different. Especially as the Welsh Rabbit is delicious on toast.
First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
The most foul, ill tempered rodent you ever did meet!
That's the Welsh RAREBIT not rabbit.. ye they are a mean predator and need slugs and grenades on them.
"What'd he do.. nibble your bum!"
I soiled my armor I was so scared!@@speedoman1234
Amazing rounds! Huge props to the guy who designed and manufactured these gems. Thanks guys for another awesome video!
thank you
I love that you showed the failures and the process taken to try and fix the problems. It's more entertaining than just seeing a round work every time and makes the success that much more satisfying to see.
I agree! Extremely impressive and these two are serious legends who really need way more attention in the TH-cam gun community! Would love to see OG and Jeff do a video with Demolition Ranch aka Matt or anyone else.. it's all about community! ❤
Really glad you got these rounds working properly! I hope these things get into the hands of some sort of ammo production company, imagine these things against SOFT armor when they're stabilized, I bet that little core zips right through it!
Removing the front crimp probably helped the sabo a lot. I'd load it hot again like that setup.
All in all.. that thing would destroy any big game or a bear.
It's great. Caaerbanog has met his match. The Holy hand grenade is obsolete now. Well done laddie..
Monty Python approved ammo !
As always another great video but the thing that always gives me a chuckle is the watermelon. 🤣👍.
After seeing Greg extract that round I think it should be called the hummingbird
And after seeing the ballistics test definitely
OG! Great video. Great slug!
🤘😎
Instead of the anonymous maker polishing them to a mirror finish, he needs to put a slight texture on the outside.
Makes a great hunting round, I imagine would be very effective on wild pig control.
40 grains of longshot holy crap!
Aaaaand again, OG can't shoot straight. 😂
Would it help to Loctite Blue the sabot be helpful (on all rounds)?
Or would that so be too strong of a bond and prevent them from discarding?
You want clean separation of the sabot and anything hanging up would cause accuracy issues.
The amount of time and craftsmanship that went into these is insane.
To bad they cant own a firearm..
@@Wheeling88 OI U GOT A LOISCENSE FOR THAT LAITHE?
@@Wheeling88They can own a firearm.
@@mrglock568 A few can.
Talk about a mega fan
The fact that you were able to figure out what was wrong and correct it in the field is amazing and a testament to your skills and dedication to your craft!! Well done sir!!
and a little bit of desperation! lol
It doesn't matter brother it was great thinking and experience on the fly kudos to you sir!
@@taofledermaus is it possible that the crimping itself could have been what caused the problems?
@@taofledermaus WALES where there is a large U.S. Military / Intelligence presence. Must be Coincidence... 😉
Jeff's the man, I've been watching him for years. He really knows his stuff, this just proves it.
Couldn't agree more with this comment, I thought the same thing.
That gel performance is amazing, thing would make a great combat round.
its definitely a Fin Lethal round ..........😲
All purpose for sure
Definitely a bad day if you get hit with it.
An amazing round that expands as predicted.
Great save, managing to turn it into a complete win. That last gel shot was fantastic, never seen a wound track look so brutal (except maybe when Garand Thumb shot a ballistic torso with a tank round, but that's not really in the same league)!
😂😂😂
@@behave7583 😅😮😮
You know a slug is good when you have to compare it to a tank round
That gel block test was something else. I've never seen anything leave a wound channel quite like that. Those copper petals did a number on that ballistic gel.
Yeah absolutely amazing. If you trace it out against a human cross section it leaves a 6" exit hole on a scrawny guy... Bigger for us chunks. Truly shocking. I want 1,000....
Agreed, that would certainly be a nightmare to get hit with.
Seriously, that's a devastating wound track. Talk about One and Done.......
i havent quite made it to the gel block test yet, but by the way you describe it, it makes me wonder if youve seen _Elephant Rifle Annihilates Ballistic Gel at 82,000FPS - The Slow Mo Guys x Kentucky Ballistics_
th-cam.com/video/nsJGJHkJolI/w-d-xo.html
yeah, scotts elephant gun @ 82kfps from the vid in my first comment was definitely crazier.. there is even some either tribo or piezo luminescence, which are both defined rather similarly, hence the reason im not sure which one it is. but that reverse arrow shaped wound channel is rather impressive.
Gregg: "Mr. Anonymous wants to keep his name a secret"
Jeff: "yeah this is the dude lmao"
I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture
@TippyHippy Lol you worked at a pet value before didn't ya? 😂 My buddy used to work at one and anytime someone came into the shop looking for mice for their snake they had to take some of the live ones in a bag and smack them off the side of the table in the backroom
@@TippyHippy oh my god thats horrible!
@@lca89 Holy fuck my sides, this comment was so unasked for but i'm in tears, lmao
@@MagicalBreezeyeah, just feed your snake live mice, they like the hunt...
This is not only one of the most impressive slugs I've seen yet!(post field repair) but one of the best videos you guys have ever done! Figuring out the problem and correcting it on the fly like that was impressive! Great work as always guys!
Who could have known the Welsh penetrator had nothing to do with sheep this time ;))) Awesome vid as always!
thanks!
Note to self, pressure ranges aren't just about keeping the firearm from grenading, they're also about making sure the projectile functions as designed.
I did see some damaged gas seals, so that might have caused the hot gassed to melt the sabots.
@@taofledermaus Could you progressively dip the slug in something like a truck bed liner coating to achieve the needed diameter-like some kind of psychotic candlemaker-or is that just a really stupid idea?
They need a website
@@user-ef4gf7rr9r not sure how you'd get a precise layer on and it might be so gummy it would foul the barrel
@@user-ef4gf7rr9rLike some psychotic candlemaker... that's a good one.
That would make a hell of a hog slug.
..........only works on sheep boyo
Kudos to the man that machined these slugs.
Skill a Knowledge requided to take on this project is on another level.
The permanent cavity in the gel is amazing! So symmetrical! Really a testament to the engineering that went into the projectile.
Too right!
Looks like a cutaway of an anti-armor shaped charge going off. Really cool!
I saw no failure here, only opportunity to learn. Thanks for the presentation! What a round!
Only real issue I would say would be having alum. against copper. They don't like each other. These likely wouldn't last long (shelf life) cuz of the corrosive effect alum/copper have with eachother
Makes me very Happy to see OG AND JEFF together
So, counting the split plastic shotshell, it's a quadruple sabot. Helpful tip: carry a copper pipe cutter to surgically remove the crimps in the field. Hope OG has more time now. Always like both your guy's content.
A straight edge razor blade and a short piece of copper tubing with a small slit cut into works like champion or you can purchase a shot shell disassemble tool. I keep the razor blade and tubing in my shooting bag and the shell disassemble tool hanging from my loading bench.
Spalling is fragments of whatever you shot breaking off and becoming projectiles. 👍🏻 OG dropping the knowledge on ya. Nice Slug too.
Or off the backside of what it hit.
That seems to be the more typical use
i love this guy's creations. Imho the best slugs you guys have tested have come from this dude in wales and that other guy in Russia. Although those exploding slugs were pretty awesome, I'm sad that you guys never got a "version 2" to test.
21:03 that high-speed footage of the gel block is amazing. That's a huge energy dump as the round comes apart.
it dumped more energy than a hollow point and had that core wreck shot fkn beautiful
Magnificent to watch !
Powerthirst! Energy Dump edition! More energy than your toilet has room for! Now with maximum laxatives! Feeel the impact! * Warning! Watch out for backspatter! *
...may cause ricochits.
you oughta see what scotts elephant gun does to a gel block through the slo mo guys 82,000 fps phantom.. one of the most satisfying gel shots ive ever seen.. probably _the_ most..
th-cam.com/video/nsJGJHkJolI/w-d-xo.html
enjoy!
Nothing better than a true tradesman diagnosing the issue and fixing it in the field with what he has on hand! Then making it go 💥!
thanks!
@taofledermaus I still rock your gummy bear shirt and hoodie, been wearing them for years. You're extremely talented and knowledge 👍👍
I can't believe that ballistic gel turned that slug into a reverse arrow with blades.
Mr. Anonymous I tip my hat to you.
Notice the 'K' on the slugs?
There is only one "I" in aluminum.😂
Yeah that round is devastating. I really think that if he made a few adjustments to the materials by either replacing the copper or aluminum then he could really get some good money from that thing.
This was a great video! A problem arose, which happens of course, and you fixed it in the field. Amazing. And OG is always a treat.
Those slots in the side look like a perfect spot for a 3D printed sabot to interface with. I bet you could still push them super fast but also get great stability. The world may never know
I was thinking the exact same thing, I am a little dubious about a printer's ability to be that precise though as the thinnest nozzle I've ever seen was still 0.1mm.
@@Voltaic_Fire You're talking like .58 mm wall thickness with no interference fit, you could probably do it with a bog standard .4mm nozzle.
@@MillionFoul I still have my doubts, I would need to see it attempted.
"When you're pushing too hard, it's time to back off a little bit." Wise words from OG.
Their garbage eyeballing the sabot thickness is most of the problem and dropping the load gives the rifiling more friction to work with
@@815TypeSiriuswhoosh.
@@815TypeSirius You missed the joke and must not have watched the video. Jeff clearly measured the sabot thicknesses.
Yep, .650" plus .060" is .730. Definitely a very tight bore fit.
@@taofledermaus Maths is hard! 🤣
What a tremendous slug! I never realized that over gassing could provide such instability. Great video guys!
It's the relationship between projectile mass, explosive acceleration vs projectile inertia, barrel length, and twist rate.
Looking at the warped sabots I wondered if it has anything to do with the strength and durability of the sabots. If so…maybe stronger (but not harder than the barrel) sabots could work?
With KE = 1/2MV^2 velocity and the contact area with the AR500 plate would be the biggest factors to penetrating the armor.
Yeah over gassing is a pain in the butt, when you shart.😂
i wonder if adding a 5th layer, of lead, rather than needing plastic inserts would let it go faster without destabilizing?
@@eclipsegst9419 a 5th layer of lead. Not 100% but it could be awesome! 1. It’s soft and grips on. 2. Rotational energy is retained mainly on the outside edge of rotation (like a flywheel). However I doubt it would stay on. Also wouldn’t want it as a sabot as sabots are meant to increase the diameter adding as little weight as possible only to fly away. All that KE would be wasted otherwise
Love the honesty, good or bad y'all consistently put out the real deal.
thanks!
The standard proceedure over here when we hear phrases like "Welsh Penetrator" is to contact the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA). Sheep Lives Matter.
The "Sabot Slip" is my favorite dance when I go to the club.
It's pronounced sabot, not sabot!
That shot on the lead plate where to caught the round was cool, but the one versus the gel block was terrifying. Gave me goosebumps. What a horrible wound channel. What amazing engineering on that round!!
And such wide tears in the gel.
i know... i have no real medical knowledge beyond basic EMT but can you even imagine being a surgeon and trying to correct a wound like that? good luck...
@@MK-lk7nc Would be a horrifying wound to have to work on.
@@cycoholicthat wound would never get worked on by a surgeon if it hit core mass. DOA
@@JoeGraves24 Totally true. What a scary round.
Please get more of these !!!!!! That gel block shot was insane 😮
He has some other stuff in the works!
@@taofledermaus subbing to make sure I dont miss that shit. Absolutley insane.
Yea that thing was spinning like a top after the adjustment too..
@@taofledermausbalsa wood country
I can tell that Jeff is extremely tight with the dollars.. OMG "I had to buy 5 gallons of propane" dam buddy I hope you hit the lottery and have all your financial problems erased 😅
Sometimes less is more, especially in hand loads, huh? Very interesting.
Cool rounds, great video!
Indeed!
This is easily one of my favorite channels on TH-cam! I thank you so much for all the hard work you've put into making this channel!
Beautiful slug. So much effort and work went into those rounds. Awesome to see you and the OG. Love the video
thanks!
I watch the show with you and OG the most just to hear the dark comedy and slick comments that always finds there way out of yalls mouth😂😂😂
Reloading knowledge and skill evident. Impressive slugs and on the spot trouble shooting. I learned stuff by watching. 👍
thanks!
As a veteran, I love the fact that these work exactly as the military would want them to for maximum effect. That wound track/channel is just beautiful.
Unfortunately the military would never be allowed to use a round like this.
@@kirtoverseasjust put a ballistic tip on it...
@@kirtoverseas I know. It's not deadly or painful enough for them to be useful to the US military. Now if they could put a Plutonium core in there surrounded by some C4 and could eject a stream of white phosphorus through some rear jet ports as it travels in flight then they might just get it into testing as a peacekeeping round.
@@Kit_Bear 😂😂
@@Kit_Bear XDD
First half of video "this round sucks" second half after altering powder charge " wow, that's one impressive round".
In the end, both of you did these projectiles the justice they deserved. Those projectiles would definitely have some great hunting and other applications.👍
thank you!
When you can't decide on the best metal for a slug, use all of them! Neat stuff!
thanks!
He missed out on tungsten
It's great to see OG back! There ain't nothing like the real thing!
Thanks Chris.
First time seeing him but love his sense of humor. And he’s a crack shot
19:10 I wonder if a steel plate backing of some sort could prevent that...? =/
The mass should be on the outside of the projectile for spin stabilization. Eg., copper with an aluminum core, not the other way around.
Those look so great loaded up that I'd feel bad using them.
Really a scientific Procedure! Congratulations, you've nailed the powder amount (scientifficaly, of course...) I love "mass acceleration" thinguies and exploring their capabilities!
Thank you!
Fun fact, "The Welsh Penetrator" is also Tom Jones' nick name for his lady sword. Also aluminium is utilised pretty much by everybody outside the US. Like imperial units and other redundancies, aluminum is just America's way of feeling special. It's cool. You're having fun, that's what counts.
Wolfram 😑
Green surgery job impressed with the rounds.
Wow. Gotta appreciate the time put into those. Actually quite beautiful in a way. Thanks.
thanks!
I’m glad you loaded them at a higher fps, due to the nature of the slug. Due to them being a solid hydra static round that acts like a hollow point but staying in shape. But it was very cool to see they stayed true at a slower speed
It was my goal to see them go through an AR500 plate so I got a little ambitious!
Always impressed with your ingenuity on the fly. Another great video.
Thank you very much!
In the UK a welsh penetrator is better know as a sheep botherer.😂
That was one of the most violent reactions I've seen out of a 12 gauge into gel!!! Crazy temporary and insane permanent wound channels!!!
Great round and excellent save Jeff. Everybody makes mistakes, you corrected and got a win. Thanks for letting us in on the process.
Thanks 👍
As always you two never disappoint. Way to think on your feet Jeff.
thanks!
Jeff, you remind me of a master alchemist doing minor adjustments in the field just to get something to work! Great bit of shooting, especially that lead plate shot! I actually cheered out loud when I saw that penetrator flying out the back in the high speed!
lol thanks!
Sorry, but here in the UK a Welsh penetration would have sheep worried. Those here in the UK know what I mean. 😂😂😂 Great video as always. Respect to my Welsh friends.
thanks Paul
Thank you gentlemen. Appreciate the dedication and adapting.
thanks!
Huh I was imagining something like this ever since seeing the impressive performance of the 'Mach-71' and the 9mm Interceptor. Combining the best of both because "What's overmatch anyways?"
"Is this hollowpoint or armorpiercing?"
-"Yes."
"Is this hollowpoint or armorpiercing?"
-"Yes."
Astonishing attention to detail, fabulous results. I loved the section detailing the proper fitting of the sabot, I often wondered how it all came together to ensure stability and accuracy......or as much as possible.
Thanks!!
Excellent job figuring out that that less is more with the stability issue. When flying straight on I have never seen a more devastating projectile. The wound track in the gel block was something to behold.
never underestimate us taffs that shit gonna make a big hole in you
I have to commend y'all on a great recovery. Dumping some powder was genius!
thanks!
Seeing it hit the gel block at the end was very impressive.
Pretty nice results! It is a cleverly adjusted compromise between an armor-piercing and an expanding projectile. But still, I would love to see a diabolo-shaped or fin-stabilized version of this slug, so that it could potentially be loaded hot enough for its penetrator to effectively go through the AR500 plate.
Sorry, but AC/DC is NOT "metal".
Thanks Guys!!! Have a great weekend everybody!!
No u
thank you!
I love ballistic gell testing. You guys get some unbelievable results with some of these creative slugs. I've never seen a wound track like that!
thanks!!
This is the best slug video yet! I love to see the results of such highly engineered projectiles.
If you dont succeed on the first >sixth shot try try again. Thanks for keeping trying and also the show Gentlemen 🏴😁👌🏼🇺🇸
The Anonymous donor from Wales reminds me of a story:
A fellow trekking through the English countryside stopped at a small pub and ordered a pint. At the table next to him sat two obviously hefty gals loudly conversing with a very strong accent.
Curious, the fellow asked, "Excuse me ladies, but would you two happen to be from Scotland?"
"It's WALES, you idiot!" sneered one of them.
"I beg your pardon," he answered. "Would you two whales happen to be from Scotland?"
IT'S similar to a servo round,the center of that particular slug penetrating further into the target.
Beautiful looking slugs, can't wait to see how well they work.
Some 59 years ago, I started playing with bullets and pulling them apart, just to see the powder. at one point I blew up a 44 revolver by putting the wrong powder back into the cartridge, REALLY my bad! After that I realized Max load is Not the way to go 😂
I skipped the tabletop explanation of the bullet. Please explain.
I skipped Greg's explanation. Please explain again.
I skipped the shooting. Did you shoot?
I skipped the conclusion. Please explain the video.
Has to be anonymous because in the shitty uk, even MAKING these would be illegal. Gun laws in the uk are PATHETIC.
So metaliac cartridge shooters usually go by a reduction of 0 %. So 40 grains to 30 grains. Just to be scientific in California. Lol😮😮😮
This makes me wonder if building a shotgun that could take much higher pressures, and then use a soft-metal sabot instead of plastic.
If a multi-metal projectile could be run hotter, and be kept stable in flight, it would become something the military might be interested in.
So brave of Greg to admit that he gets poor penetration. I hear that the Welsh make fine extensions. See, Jeff, that is why it's so impotent to make an extra slug (for yourself) when you disappoint us!
You shoild use the mead shell developed 125 years ago using a special wad its on page 226 of the book the gun by w w greener 1885 i can send you pictures if you like a blast from the past
You get penetration from velocity. The problem with this round is that with all the aluminum, copper, and brass, it's too heavy to propel fast enough to permit the hardened-steel core to penetrate. If you could figure a way to apply all that energy to just the steel core, leaving out the rest of the slug, you might see more penetration.
Or you could just use a rifle.
When you do field surgery on shotgun shells can I suggest using the theme music from "Doctor Kildare" TV show as background music?
btw i watched your rip review a trocar is used to draw fluid from a body " I use em to speed up blood letting deer/elk ect." it takes about 1/2 as long to finish. morticians use them as well.
"That thing has more metal in it than AC/DC", well that's completely right OG and not hard at all, since AC/DC is a hard rock band not metal😅
You are depressed about your failures, and this viewer is depressed for myself and you. Why not ease up on being all too serious when making this scientific tests and "shoot" some humor into these productions??
Where tf knows american about the Superperforator-Song?^It is from an very unique german Movie...
A Welsh slug-maker. It's good that he's keeping busy - the sheep will be grateful that he's otherwise occupied! 😂
The Gel Block Test you can clearly see the 2 petals on the bottom side of the Block pop out one at a time but still close together that's why the arrow shaped wound chanel 4 petals of metal and then Hardened Core going all the way out the Back.💀