Michael Thompson Part 3 & John Abbott California & San Quentin Prison Stories Podcast 328 Wes Watson
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Featured in numerous documentaries, Michael Thompson was an original leader of the Aryan Brotherhood (AB) prison gang in California. Serving 45 years from 1973, he was involved in numerous life and death situations, including getting shot 22 times. Also, he was sentenced to additional life terms for crimes committed behind bars.
Audio too low turn up volume
Thanks seems louder now
The film Shotcaller was mentioned in these interviews. Did you or Mike know that there is a hidden message within the film?
What did John say that was bleeped out??
Christina, do you or this Mitch bloke have any solid evidence to show the contrary?, If so why not post this information through Shaun's website and Social Media etc?
Love the way Shaun just sits back and let’s his guests get on with it 👍
Nicholas Crowe Spot on
What just like Jen☺
I love John’s sense of humor! So grateful these 2 guys get to tell their stories 🙏🏻
I've said this before, you never cease to amaze me shaun. Brilliant interview and im extremely grateful for your journalism. God bless the wild 🙏
Praaaise Jeez-uss-aah!!! 🙌🏿🙏🏿
Check out Blood on the Razor Wire! Blows his interviews away.
@@allaboutyou81 hood stocks is another good Chanel in my opinion.
When a man speaks out against the murder of innocent men women and children, he's doing his duty as a good human being. Michael Thompson is a class act. A proper man and a true warrior.
If you really believe that
@@ethsnpric1834 Lol. Exactly. He's so full of shit.
The stories between these two men and the chemistry they had on this interview was fucking amazing
I never get tired of listening to MT's stories. The man has a sharp memory and very intelligent.
Love shauns interview technique, in that he knows when to let someone speak unlike vlad who never shuts up. Great interview guys.
Correct, that's what happens when fame and money hit insecure, mentally underdeveloped person, even though he's 40+ y.o.
Exactly
oh man you hit it on the head brutha. Who the hell is Vlad anyway? he's always off camera, and I think most of his interview technique sucks. Shaun is a likable guy.
Was just gonna say that.
AGRREEEEEEEED
What an amazing interview. Mike and John are two extremely intelligent men and had their lives taken a different direction they could have been running hugely successful organisations. Well done Shaun and well done for just letting them speak.
Conrad, you are 100% correcto, on some interviews with David Icke Shaun will move his head around like a rubber neck and have weird look on his face whilst doing the podcast, on this occasion he has done a sterling job
@@nunnagodforgivesodont7177 Shaun is well aware to know that an extremely smart ex-con like Michael can read body language better than any psychiatrist or psychologist around. He knew to show that he was paying attention to these guys as they are the real deal as people who survived decades in hardcore prisons and don't suffer fools lightly.
Great episode. As a Native American I can say there are a lot of Indian cowboys and in fact a great NA author once wrote “Indians make the best cowboys” James Welch. Also I really agreed with Mike when he said elders would often give mis information to white authors I’ve noticed similar things within my Blackfeet culture. Two great story tellers thank you Shaun for providing them a space to share. Prison reform is a serious issue we need to address in our country. I have a marine brother who just got 8-20 years for a vehicle accident involving alcohol where nobody was killed or seriously injured
Stay off the firewater then. Take responsibility for your actions and quit being a victim. These guys are murderers.
Blackfeet slaughtered and raped other tribes.
Yea that charge was bullshit man! I did all 4 years of a 2~4 denied parole twice for a possession w intent for 1/4 lb of marijuana 10 years later I have a marijuana license in Pa where I can walk in store and buy all I want! Why did I have to do all that time
These guys have a wealth of experience Ive never come across before. Obv they have brutality and cunning but they also have ridiculous luck to have survived. Great conversation.
Not sure if luck is the correct word lol we survived the short faced bear and wild saber toothed cats we can survive each other too
@@UTINNI_36 humans didn’t face them 😂
Have you done time just a question but I tell you truly he’s a grifter spent decades snitching and betraying people,not that I care just to get out. It’s 25 years since I done timer Irish time. And he is a nasty person who knows little of truth. In every prison his kind is there.
I’m absolutely intrigued with all of these story’s!!! Micheal is a legend!!!
That’s Mr. Thompson to you ..
A legend in his own mind ,
Micheal is not the one saying how great he is, he's polite, respectful, and humbled. Don't judge a man by what other people say about him. You don't know what sort of hell he's been through to get to this time of his life. He has survived shit most people just wouldn't have survived. ✌️🙏👍💪😎🚬🇭🇲
Hes the real deal , dont be so jelly , but it had to have been bird shot in that shotgun , shot 5 times ? And I dont believe he was hit in the back with a M4 Slug. The rest is public record if you dont believe him @@josephpotter2844
Legend? Legend in his own mind. Mike left the brand because he was scared blinky griffen had a hit out on him and he tucked tail and ran.
My grandpa was in San Quentin in 1931 when he was 16 yrs for a robbery and a guard was murdered. My grandfather also got shot in the back. I never met the man but my dad and uncle say that he was a mean, hard SOB.
Yea, he sounds like a real scumb@g. What a terrible, atrocious human being. You say you never met that “man.” Probably a good thing, because that wasn’t a man, sir. That right there, was an animal….Your dad & uncle were spot on.
I have just watched this in absolute amazement!!
I could listen to Mr. Thompson all day! His intimate and very intricate descriptions of life in prison don’t just open your eyes, they blow your mind!! Absolutely fantastic video. Can I just say, the fact authorities have place so many restrictions on his life after 45yrs in jail is an absolute disgrace!! He has served his time and paid his dues!! Let him live in peace, the knowledge this man has will do so much good in the community, that locking him up again would without doubt harm many many people who would then be denied the opportunity to learn from this man’s wisdom! More power to ya brother!
Thank you Shaun I loved listening to both men, they have lost big chunks of their life's being locked up yet aren't bitter or resentful towards others. They are smart and obviously processed their individual situations and developed interlectually and now how a wealth of knowledge and experience to share.
This is a great interview. Very interesting. I love how Shaun lets people talk. He never interrupts. The MSM channels could learn a lot from Shaun.
Amateur Sleuth your comments are 100 % correct most podcast hosts mainly want to hear their own voices and have ego's the size of Giant watermelons
@@nunnagodforgivesodont7177and so much it's a mess when the interviewer interrupts the guest
Definitely one of the best chats we’ve seen on this channel. Excellent work Shaun, Mike and John! 🏴🥃.
Shaun and his wife the dynamic duo with the homemade ad lmfao
The transition from Hello Fresh to California prison stories is hilarious.
It’s amazing to me that such intelligent well spoken men could end up getting decades in hard time jail.
Great interview Shaun , it’s great to hear about Michaels story and always a pleasure to listen to John .
The best interview of Chong and Owen Wilson ever!!! In all seriousness this was some of the better content on you tube!
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He has more of a Willie Nelson look but to each their own.
You must do more with those two. Sincerely enjoyed watching!!!
They both think they're clint Eastwood or John Wayne it's funny how their masks fall off in pieces when you bring them together. It would be even worse if they were sitting together in studio
Sprout Sister's do U have any concrete evidence to prove otherwise?, If so present this evidence
@@sproutsisters5398 yea I get bad vibes of that Abbot dude..
John Abbott excellent as always, @shaun get him on as often as possible
It's funny that Abbott's eyes call bullshit several times, I assume he has enough respect for Shawn , not to call Thompson out, even I don't believe he and his archrivel we're shot five times a peace with shotgun,,it had to be pepper shot (bird shot) and Mr Thompson there is no way your back muscel stoped buckshot from 12 - 20 ft away, ( 5 shells would stop super man) ... maybe you ment you were hit with bird shot 1 time 5 pellets made contact... And I'm sure a minie14 ( AR-15) did drop you, but wasn't there , God bless you all , you all three are gentlemen convicts
“After my second shoot out I ended up in Canadian prison” - John Abbott
He says it so nonchalantly. Like police shoot outs are something that happens to everyone, once in awhile.
I only believe about half of Thompson says. Unfortunately I have been in trouble in my younger days ( 65 ) now. I’ll say one thing, it’s entertaining to listen to
Mike.. Hitler was the original Jaw Jacker.. 😂 Classic!
Keep trying to get in touch with Michael Thompson. Can't get ahold of him directly. Just want to tell him how much I admire him. Not for the "hardcore" shit that he's done. I do respect what he has been through. Lord knows he probably is a badass. But, what I really respect is how he is working to change people's lives now. After being wrongfully convicted(in my opinion) and is still trying to help people. He just seems like a great person. I'd love to meet him. Or even just pass on a message. Either way. Please let him know that there are people out here who do look up to him and admire what he is doing.
This is an interesting talk, Shaun, from people who have had some very unique life experiences. Good on you for letting them run with the conversation.
‘At that time. In relation too. It’s relative. And you have to understand it’s in context’
Mike's a badass legend 💯 no other way to put it absolute badass
No doubt this Thompson was in the mix at one point but seriously keep it real. It's proven he exaggerates and straight up lies about things.
Yep he is slick. Smart dude but still a dangerous dude even if he exaggerates
I guess that’s how cults are started. lol
Starts off with this hardcore introduction with Michael talking to a hello fresh promotion from Shaun wearing an apron, lmfao
Somethin funny? Got something u wanna share there tough guy?
You can fool some people sometimes, this is the age of information, love ya Shawn ,cheers Mr,John
Ik wym 😎
It’s Shaun….
John can smell it. It was like watching an interrogation. He can see right through it.
Wow this man is a true legend amongst all peoples. A good soul with a very human journey and story.
MT has unbelievable clarity of mind 👊
He’s , at best, lying
Amazing interview... Mr Thompson and John show what it is to being an adverse situation and prosper outside of that much respect to those two individuals for making something of themselves today
The debriefing proces was very much in place when Michael Thompson in 1983 defected the AB. He was debrief from around September 14 by SSU agent James Hahn. Debriefing was the price Thompson paid to be sent to Unit 9-West, a special protective custody unit within Tehachapi's Restrictive Housing Unit primarily for AB informers (e.i. Ronald Harper, Steven Barnes, Thompson, Larry Jones and Rick Rose.) Thompson was in no hurry to disclose to Hahn everything he knew about the killing of Steven Barnes' father. A possible reason is that Thompson wanted immunity for his role in the killing before he spilled the full can of beans. Which in fact he got.
Yeah...he's a 🐀
I have watched most of the podcasts of different jail birds but Micheal Thomson is head and shoulders above all. Great content
one thing thats kind a odd is if you listen to multiple michael interviews hawaiin john got stabbed 18 times he went to parole 18 times he got in a fight with mexican gang and stabbed 18 guys and on and on odd how everything is 18 seems like we dont truly remember things how they TRULY were/are
I'm only 15 mins into this and it has to be the greatest podcast I'm going to hear! Fascinating stuff!🥃
Michael is a dream interviewee, flows effortlessly with grace and poise. one of the best shows I've seen.
Can't wait for this - Shaun could you get them both in the ring for a martial arts face off 🙂
My money is on John
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I’m going to say they both don’t martial arts and would just fight a regular street fight. Two old men. Bum fights really 😂
Michael Thompson. The guy who killed an entire prison block in one day, wrestled a bear, and invented the internet.
Said mr Nobody
@@JOEFABULOUS. This dude is so full of shit. You're a fool if you believe him.
Shaun, Sir, thank you thank you thank you for letting your guests talk and not interrupting or talking too much, so much more enjoyable to walk than others who just won't shut the f up and even let their guests get a word in edgeways. Love it mate
I'd seen both of these men do interviews on their own and thought to myself I'd really like to see these two guys talk. Well when I came across this podcast I was blown away, I just couldn't believe it. I must have watched this podcast 5 times because I enjoy it so much and the fact that S.A. is just letting them talk with out feeling he should be doing the direction of the conversation was very respectful. Great luck to both men. I can't wait for content from both men. Thank you very much, great job. ✊️.
Awesome interview much respect to you 3 and tons of respect and love to Mr Mike Thompson. He's a true warrior not for the crimes that may have happened but the way he walked thru life and the way he holds his head up high and stays humble. I'm Navajo (DINE) and I wanna say "ahehee" for your words Mr Thompson.
Always enjoy listening to John
Getting a good interview when both men are calm and intelligent 💯
Thanks for watching
No matter your opinions on Mike or John , the history and narratives described and turning the clock back , way back and telling times of the past and picturing it was entertaining and informative . Way to go Shaun . Love how ya didn’t jump in or interrupt either . Take note Vlad. Lol. Jk.
Bring em back and let’s watch them conversing and filling in blanks and perspectives of whole stories.
On a side note; I first saw you and your brother Wildman pop up on here and watched all of them. He was a character and I and sure many others fell in love with the big brute. He’d keep ya busy and enjoying life. Sorry for his passing . Much love & subscribed to all brother. Good stuff from all of you. ✌🏽💯
Great interview with Michael Thompson, I met him years ago through some documentaries.Excellent videos Shaun, Greetings from Argentina.🇦🇷✊🏻
Absolutely amazing guests and conversation!! My respect to all three of these men for what they’ve endured and overcome.
What a power house pod! Hell yess. You know I loved John’s single pods with Shaun. They were Fascinating, and do remember them mentioning Michael Thompson possibly coming on a year ago. Can’t believe he actually made it happen with both guest. 2 stand up guys here. Well done
In N.S.W Australia we call them Mobile Identification Numbers (MIN). You never forget you MIN. It’s how you get your buy-ups, your meds, everything basically. I’ve been out about 14 years but I will never forget my MIN. It’s imprinted in my brain like my date of birth.
Excellent content. I try and listen to all of Mike’s interviews. Always incredibly articulate. I wasn’t familiar with John before this. They could have spoken for 5 hours and I would have listened. Look forward to more. Thanks
You should check out all the John Abbott podcast episodes with Shaun! Truly an amazing listen! 😁
Definitely. I find these conversations fascinating. Thanks
respect to them both. especially mike. your best one yet shaun
Great interview and the Dr Evil host does a good job of letting them talk . He needs a Mr Bigglesworth on his lap .
Dude Abbott is fuckin solid. You can tell when there's bullshit by his eye brows. Honest dudes never make it sound that glamorous.
The foul language isn’t necessary
@@macysondheim Ok, so first off shut the fuck up. Second I was wrong about Abbott, he's a piece of shit rapist that won't come to America because he gang raped and murdered a woman in the early 80s in San Francisco. You have no fucking idea what these pieces of shit are capable of. That's why they target desperate women when they are released because they have no fuckin idea.
Neither are your Puritan views.
I'm sorry but are we supposed to believe that buddy was shot five times with a 12 gauge and also shot with an M14 which is a 308 right 762x 54 that because he was a gym rat they weren't able to penetrate his muscular back come on man it's not Hollywood movies the rest of his story is absolutely fascinating though
Yeah, that was a little iffy. Definitely wasn’t 00 buck. Probably #4 shot if true. I think he said Mini 14 not M14, which would probably be .223 or 5.56 x 45. Regardless, seems far fetched.
oh and his ear been cut off.
@@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 sure a 223 would blast through buddy like butter...unless his muscles are made of AR500 then ok I'll be careful talking about a man made of AR500.GO X-MEN!!!!
@@captinsnoochieboochie lol right?! Dude has level 4 scapulas. Stopped a 30-06 black tip no problem!
Look up Mike Day
Michael Thompson is very intelligent to spend 45 years in the penn.
I could listen to these guys all day. You gotta have them on again
You must love fiction, because Michael Thompson is full of shit.
Lol I love your commercials
This was really informative and interesting I enjoyed all the stories.Great interview Shaun.✌️🇬🇧
I like Mike u can tell he's the real deal but he changes his life that's the most important part I pray for him to be blessed
Two amazing men who are giving back so much to their communities.
This comment didn't age well, Thompson has been found to be stealing unemployment from those homeless people his charity was set up to help. He was charged with stealing over a 350k from the Gov't
Amazimg men? Lmao they terrible people whose terrible stories you happen to like for your entertainmemt and whom the prisons/correctional institutions (whatever you call them) happens to straighten out (occasionaly) like they are build for.
"Pack your stuff"
Prisoner: "What's going on"
"Pack your stuff we're gonna release you"
Prisoner: "The hell with my stuff open the door" LMAO
Release in that context implies release from the custody of prison, not just release to the yard by opening the door.
They should make a movie about Mike, and his experiences.A true American tough guy
You think they should make a movie about a habitual liar and informant?
@@jasonmenefee2270 absolutely
How is this not have more views ?? This is amazing to hear
My dad did 10 years and I am native I really appreciate your ability to listen and enjoy the ride .. The greatest of people let everyone talk first then speak last.. I am native and very much appreciate this one!! I would really like to Talk with Mr Thompson and talk about our native ways and invite him to Sundance and ceremony with us
Most people do not like criminals that’s why
What intelligence between the two men who have had adversaries thru their lives in a cage !! Glad y’all are out n home n using this medium as a dialogue of the real deal time !! With respect Boston breed
Brilliant Shaun. A great conversation. Thanks man!
These guys talk so well
Being a fellow convict , I appreciate these two fellas showing that we're not all just monsters that will never adapt to society. Bless them .
False.
@@macysondheim I'm living proof that its not false.
@@dougstyles why should we believe u
@@macysondheim Honestly don't care if u do or not. I've lived on both sides of the spectrum, and this side is much easier.
Shaun’s ‘Holy Shit’ face 😳😬
🤣🤣 Love it!
I never left the pen homie we str8 up ballin here G
2 very intelligent men who wasted the best parts of life
Shaun the postman ..
Once again delivers a great interview & podcast, great content, as well as enjoyed the rawness of John and Michael's stories. Great podcast
Great video yet again
I feel like I should comment my opinion for what if anything it's worth as there seems to be much confusion as to what it means to live your life following Native ways. I like Mike am a fellow traveler on the Red Road. Which means I follow the teachings of those that came before me, who also happen to be Natives. I do not know Mike personally I know nothing about his heritage or blood quantum but what i have to say today that does not matter in the least, as the Red Road doesn't have anything to do with either. First and foremost I who am a enrolled tribal member of a federally recognized tribe (also completely irrelevant but I say this for those in the comments who seem to be obsessed with such things) when I was a young man I was taught by elders much more knowledgeable than myself that this Red Road is not ours to own, just like the Earth itself is not ours to own. The Red Road, our ways, our teachings are open to all that wish to learn and follow them. We do not get to decide who is worthy, who is good enough or who is Native enough to practice this way of life. Your ancestry or who your parents are does not matter to any who follow the teachings of those who came before us. To any of those who disagree and say this is only for a select few I would ask who taught you? Does this sound like what those who came before us would have taught? Was the color of one's skin that important? Was Quanah Parker not Kiowa? Did he not live for his people? Was Ohiyesa not Lakota? Did he not love his people and help them as much as he could? Why do outsiders always seem to think they get to decide who is Native enough to live our ways? Our ways are not a religion, there is no Church. All of creation is our church. The Red Road is open to all that truly wish to walk upon it in a honorable way. This is not what I decided, this is not what I just made up. This is what I was taught by those who came before me. Just something for those who think it is their right to decide to think about.
iM sure this was the hardest podcast Shaun had to do, even though he said nothing he kept his composure all the way through.Well done - Thanks for the share guys very interesting
Quietest I’ve ever seen Shaun 😂
shaun kudos to you for bringing two legends together. I love every minute of it, I've learned so much from you three. I was imprisoned myself. thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Cheers 🍻
Legends? 😂
You gotta stop with this guy's BS,.
John as a way of cutting thru bullshit ....he can smell it
Earlier in the video Mike said he never really fist fought, he would only knife fight. now he's saying he used to fist fight with TD on the tier for fun. Mike is a good storyteller, but not all of it is true!
Exactly, alot of his stories are way exagerrated or make belief, but like you said he is a great storyteller and articulated speaker so its understandable alot of people just nodded to what he says.
I took it as they sparred in the boxing ring.
I think he meant with enemies
It was just the prison population that was much smaller in the seventies. The entire human population was MUCH smaller as well as the US population
INCREDIBLE information. No doubt the best interview series in the genre. Applause to all, and I thank you.
Support Mike’s nonprofit!! See link. ThankU SO much U guys! Awesome Ep! Sending loads Luv n Respect to Mike! 💜💜☮️
I was in Q with this guy. He put a ballpoint pen through my cellys ear drum. Never seen so much blood pool out of someones ear.
Top notch. Enjoyed every moment
Mike is a deeply spiritual man. I'd love to hear more about walking the red road.
Nice job Shaun!!! I could listen too you 3 all night!!! Thank you Shaun for another great video and interview!!
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The adjustment centre sounds like something out of an Orwell book. It doesn't sound like it's meant to help you 'adjust '
This was awesome, very educational and I enjoyed it very much.
That was Willie Ray Wisely, he killed his father by letting a diesel truck fall on him. he had his own eight-man cell in Orange County Jail they even knocked out another cell because he had so much legal work. Interesting character! this was back in the early'80s.
Love the adverts Shaun, they always make me laugh.
Great interview! These guys are so intelligent and Interesting!
Shaun this was a Voltarian podcast. So many levels to it. Genius podcast idea. Thank you
I guess I am not the only one who thinks the hot lead, is what hurts. My elbow shot, was the most noticeable. And that was only a 22 caliber. The .357 deflected off my belt, next to my spine. No skin broken, but the blood sprayed up my back and down my legs. And a spinal injury to my L-5. It wasn't a leather belt, metal and used tire.
From what I take away from this interview is Mr. Thompson had both eyes and ears wide open, to teach himself politics of both inside and out, combat and suvive all the damage done to his body, but his mind seems to be very keen and alert
I really enjoyed hearing these guy's stories and the similarities in their circumstances but the differences in their perspectives. Did anyone else get the feeling that John was gently trying to nudge Michael into a more explicit admittence that the AB gang was profoundly racist from it's inception or at least at the time of Michael joining it? Michael shrugs it off well but something tells me that if he were to admit to things the way John is framing it (a blantant racist gang to be avoided at all cost - he did after all) it would be a heavy burden for him seeing as he done what he thought was the best way to adapt and survive. With that said maybe John is just more naive and Michael's responses / views on the gang and who was who seems quite balanced, almost as if he was more immune to policticing than others even though he was deep in the mix. I don't know how Shaun was just pantiently listening until like an hour 1/2 in! Haha amazing podcast
Possibly Michael is still being kept under servalance due to what he is not saying rather than what he is???
Excellent interview, with two of my favorite characters... Intelligent, and thought provoking, thanks again shaun for a very insightful and captivating interview.