I like the half bath so everyone visiting doesn't mess up that beautiful bathroom. I like to see that 4 door 2 way fridge. Which fridge is bigger? I can never remember. I like that it's very Fluffy friendly.
Thanks for reminding me who does what Josh, I just can't remember which one does which thing so 2 way is off grid friendly slower cooling and smaller. Residential is bigger cooles faster and sucks the battery's dead if your off grid. 😑 got it. What a dilemma, they need to make one that does it all! Bigger, coolest faster and uses less power!
Definitely with the main bathroom being through the bedroom the half bath is a necessity rather than a pantry. The master bath was insanely nice. Overall a certain final fiver purchase but definitely need the diesel to handle that bad boy!
I ordered this model back on May. Came into the dealership end of October so I got the 2023. Driver side livingroom slideout bulb seal was missing 2 inches of the track it was supposed to be attached to. Mid coach AC was mounted crooked and every set of shades in the livingroom was mounted crooked. Missing several screws on the driver's side slideouts. Guess it wasn't too bad compared to some of the stories I've seen. I do like the interior changes better than the 2022.
Don’t let anyone tell you that these units are constructed to haul across the country. We have taken ours twice from Michigan to Arizona, and had major issues EVERY night we stop to set up. Interior sliding doors falling off, closet clothes hanging systems literally pulling off their mount. Plan to fix something EVERY time you haul these units. I’m tired of doing their R&D for them..
Are you referring to RVs in generator or Cedar Creek models specifically? Not trying ot argue/diminish what you're saying. Purely curious and seeking clarity
With so many manufacturers focusing their development on the "being there" amenities, it's nice to see one going the extra mile (pun intended) when it comes to "getting there". That upgraded pin box and running gear goes a long way toward driver comfort and peace of mind. Better travel access, relocate the slinky tube and an entry door window would be nice, but none are deal breakers. I'm a function over form kinda guy, so this one speaks to me. Were I in the fiver market, I'd be willing to part with some paychecks for this one--plus I'd get to go truck shopping! (My Ram 1500 just wouldn't do) A-1 job as usual, Josh. 👍👍
This is a house on wheels. Very nice. 2 issues: Washer/Dryer in the rear of the camper. I know that’s where the master bath is but, it will take a beating while traveling. I’d be willing to give up the half bath and put the washer/dryer closer to the center of the camper. 2nd issue: The window valances have a fabric center that, on camera, look shiny or sparkly. Tacky, tacky, tacky (in my opinion). A nice contrast color to the light colored wood in the valances would look more in line with the overall decor. Thanks for sharing, Josh!
The bedroom over the windows as long as it slides is perfect for CPAP users so they don't wrap the hose around their throat. I know my CPAP machine is behind my bed that the hose comes up and over. If there is actual cupboards above bed then a hole where the tubing can come down with machine in cupboard.
I like the totally separate living room area from the kitchen since all my animals would be traveling with me and this gives me and them much more room both on the floor and on the two couches.
The deal breaker for me, no road-mode bathroom access. With the rear bath it would seem a rear door might be a remedy? I'm OK with no kitchen access. I plan to get to a Harvest Host or Cracker Barrel if I'm traveling between locations and timing so I'm not pulling in after dark. I'll pack a picnic lunch and cooler for the truck. I do want to get to the bathroom though!
A real winner for sure, thanks Uncle Josh! Er, almost a winner. The main thing I don't like about this one is how they've cluttered the doorway to the driver's side access of that front pass-through - I would sincerely argue they need a new term for it, as they've severely limited what can actually pass through there on that side. The battery and cord reel could have gone in that front storage box! I guess the idea was to be able to access those things while still hitched up? ...and then I saw the size of the door on the other side, which made the situation even worse. The area inside can hold so much, but it has to pass through a tiny door on the passenger side or get knocked around by the battery box and scraped on the power cord/cord reel. If the cord is actually still on the reel while you're trying to get in there it would restrict access even more. Granted, I'll probably never be able to afford this unit in the first place, but if I could this defect would probably cause me to pass this, otherwise stellar, rolling abode over for something else (though the sale prices on the website are amazing and actually put it within reach!). The rear under-storage is great, yes, but if I want to put a small cooler/fridge on a slide tray in the front area, so I can just hop out of the truck to grab drinks and a packed lunch at a rest stop, that's simply not gonna happen and with fridge access limited in road mode, that's a huge deal.
Yeah traveling with this one is limiting. It really feel like this is for someone that’s just going to get there and setup for a while though I could be wrong. Sometimes how I see it and how someone else doesn’t don’t quite jive and that’s ok
I like the new colors and no carpet. The storage is phenomenal and I love their build. Front living rooms are not for us, but what a great RV. I have to admit, I couldn't finish the video without "Baby got back" in my head. Thanks for the videos.
I do like this unit a lot - so many good points but one glaring issue for me are those windows! I've said it before and I'll invariably say it again in the future but frameless windows are a no go for me. I like fresh air and to me those windows are like your four inch fart fans. Thanks for showing this one and the factory tour!
Sal (The Theater Seat Guy) Sorry I haven't been around for while, got put into TH-cam jail because of something I said on my podcast. Anyway, Love the set up on this, the power recliners are awesome. doesn't look like the table and chairs are fluffy friendly but no matter for us, the Mrs. and I eat in our recliners anyway. Light fixture over the island is nice. It would be just the two of us but the second bath is handy. Love the way the stove is set. I'd go with a queen to give room for a CPAP. Love that bathroom. The road mode isn't that great. Would love to have access to one of the bathrooms. The rear basement storage is awesome! Are those tires H rated? Better location for the sewer hose storage would be nice. Also, is that an on demand water heater? Hope you have a great weekend Josh and all viewers.
Josh, my wife and I really appreciate your videos! Because of you, we were able to find the features we liked (you don't know what you don't know) that you've demonstrated in your videos. We bought one at Bish's in Montana. Thank you for everything and we intend to keep watching.
Master bathroom is much nicer than in my current 16x80 mobile home. The back splash guard behind the kitchen stove I thought looked exceptionally nice and is it tile or just a patterned solid panel that is there, surprised you didn't mention it. For me getting to the fridge while traveling on the road isn't that a big deal and I would just keep a small cooler inside My vehicle.
Love the decor! Love the light colors, but I would rather have more kitchen counter space and less giant fridge. Also, no access to either bathroom in rode mode is a deal breaker.
Don't laugh. The black tiles in the bathroom would drive me crazy not being completely even and covering the entire space up to the mirror. I do like this one. TFS 😻 Britt
@@JoshtheRVNerd I mostly agree. Just thinking that your saying that it can't rot and/or corrode isn't quite right. And us long time watchers do trust you to give it straight. Yes, we know you push both sides of issues depending on the camper (floor vs. ducted heating), but saying that something can't happen vs. unlikely to happen. That's my quibble. I still love your humor!
The entry door.......i dont like the idea of just the peep hole! There are so many doors out there with a window AND a shade out there.....why dont this high end have one???? This is most deff a BE THERE model vs a get there unit. Nice job though with that rear end bath room!
I love the colors in the living room! Could put fake greenery across the valances with all that room. Kitchen is nice. I like room on sides of stove. Plenty of storage. Think I'd put a desk where dining table is. Bedroom - I need side stands for my water etc. Decent storage and bedroom style is pretty. Bathroom is perfect - except I don't like the weird black tile treatment. The quality construction of this one is important to me as full timers. Prefer rack and pinion slides though. Thanks for another great review! It was "EXTREE" good!
To me, these floor plans make each room too small as opposed to an "open floor plan" rear living room. I don't like the idea of having to go up and down the stairs to get to the living room because you spend so much of the time there. Most ex-military folks knees are shot! Plus, the lack of access to anything (especially the lav!) is a deal breaker for me. That is non-negotiable for me. Need access to my own lav en route.
Keep the song lyrics coming, you are a hoot! Great review! Does this one have w/d or hook ups? I love that they care enough to to make and sell a solid RV, not a disposable RV! I can't go from long term mold exposure to moving into a full time RV that can...MOLD😜😲😬! Nice job Cedar Creek! Beautiful unit! I prefer lighter colors! Only thing I would change is making all the wood cabinets/doors all the same color. Farmhouse decor, I just can't like, no matter how hard I try😂🤷♀️😂 Have a great day Josh!
What a beautiful RV! Does anyone build a bumper pull towable with a similar frame quality? Love the Sir Mix alot reference lol. You had me rolling. Keep up the good work Josh. You are truly one of a kind.
@@JoshtheRVNerd i was thinking the same thing, any chance in the future they might s to start building travel/camp Smaller sized but equally well built units.? Maybe put a bug in their ear 👂🤔🙂😉
Well few modifications and it could work for full time. Like toss the sofa beds in the so called living room. Dont need to house the neighborhood. What's the hugh doors by the televator? Fake or storage? Put a desk on one side & need place for books & definately individual recliners. Smaller fridge, chuck the microwave. Need more counter space & c'mon toss the dinette! Free standing table & chairs. Half bath works. Bathroom remove one sink & put in a utility (deep) sink. Not impressed with the goofy geometric lighting decor - already lived thru the 70s. 😳😄😄😄 There - just knocked off another $50k! 😊
You doing ok? I don’t mind if folks share when they don’t enjoy something but you seem a little.. off today. A little unlike your normal replies Just checking in
@@JoshtheRVNerd 🙋Hi Josh. Ohhhh just a bit frustrated. Wanting to find another rig that won't need a zillion modifications & will keep me dry! 😄 (Flash floods here yesterday & part of the house flooded.) Anyhoo some things on these rigs i just don't understand. To full time in, one would think of it as "home"... Right? At leaste that's how i did it. It's like who has two sofa beds in their sticks & bricks living room with a cramped theater recliner for two? 😄 i really don't want much. Just a practical functional rig/home to get back livin in the forest again. I had a 33' RK Sea Breeze 5th wheel, pass thru split bathroom with w/d in the hall, east west queen, tons of storage & a Onan generator! (Also had a vintage Class A to travel in & a modified vintage class C to back country. They all had a good generator! Practical & functional 😳) 🎼Those were the days my friend . . .
@@hshalom9113 Man I'm sorry to hear about the home. It feels like your life gets hijacked by stuff like that. Feeling out of control always puts me into a weird mental place. I hope you're able to get worked thru everything :(
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks. One of these days I'm gonna show up and get me another rig or two. You do take 💰💸 don't you ? 😊 Got my eye on a vintage that should get me there.
construction rules them all 👑 like the delam + aluminum bones 🩻, the amount of seating in the living room is dreamy 🤤, the solid mold of the shower (cleaner), vents on walls vs floors, and that thicc booty ☺️
Well few modifications and it could work for full time. Like toss the sofa beds in the so called living room. Dont need to house the neighborhood. What's the hugh doors by the televator? Fake or storage? Put a desk on one side & need place for books & definately individual recliners. Smaller fridge, chuck the microwave. Need more counter space & c'mon toss the dinette! Free standing table & chairs. Half bath works. Bathroom remove one sink & put in a utility (deep) sink. Mirror way too big. Where's the medicine cabinet? Not impressed with the goofy geometric lighting decor - already lived thru the 70s. 😳😄😄😄 There - just knocked off another $50k! 😊
Nice trailer but your biggest downfall is all that white it looks terrible in a trailer the bathroom looks fine in white the rest of the trailer does not
Greetings Josh ! Once again thank you for the professional presentation you make Josh. I really like this fifth wheel trailer, except the windowless front door, i don't like it. At the next !!
Thank you Josh for bringing us this unit. I really appreciate you bringing us the good and bad of every unit you show. I like this one a lot. My biggest dislikes are that they used cable slides for the front living room and the battery compartment in the pass through storage seemed awkward. Great unit though. Again, thank you for your hard work 😓!
Nice COMMODE ROOM. Man this is a nice rig I know for sure if I were to tow this rig it would not even make it to the first destination because it would be destroyed with my driving ( 🍻beer might have a part ) 👈MAYBE . 🤣🙋💣🚽💥💥💥💥💥
Guess I'm wondering why I'd buy this over an Alliance Paradigm 385FL, when Alliance has a better layout for the 1/2-bath, better construction, waaaaay better field service... liike... waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better... and did I mention better construction and field service? Also, the basement storage on the 385 is much larger and can fit a cricket golf cart!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd good morning and thanks for asking, Josh... I am actually, having toured both FR's and ARV's factories ... twice each, in fact... along with several others, including Keystone and GD/Winnie ... combine that with having funded numerous independent inspections on several of each of these and many other notable manufacturers (across brands), I've concluded so far that literally ALL manufacturers in the RV space cut lots of corners in the name of profit - some more than others, and some less... I'm incentivized to source only the best product for my family, not to just paint the sky over all RV's with rainbows... sure, you point out so-called short-comings, but let's be honest, they're mostly aesthetic and subjective and rarely go behind the walls because your incentive is to SELL... bottom line, this industry is headed for a reckoning, despite high demand - social media and some industry press are doing the consumer a solid and exposing inherent systemic quality problems. Right now, ARV is doing the least shitty job of putting out a quality product, in part because they're working hard to minimize the need to actually deliver on their post-sale process in the field - to wit, better outcomes up front lead to less costs later... Pay attention to what I said, and not what I didn't... I did NOT say they're doing a great job, I said they're doing the least shitty... No doubt, there will be ebb and flow of output quality as time goes by and the economy does what it's going to do... in the mean time, you keep doing what you're doing, but expect that some folks in your comments know just as much as you do, if not more... and might bubble up from time-to-time... Be curious, not judgmental. #BBQsauce
@@NetworkPIMP Thank you for the information and clarity. I asked because the construction of a Cedar Creek seems to be one of those things very few people really know or understand. I'm not sure which of Forest River's factories you've visited but Cedar Creek is not made like most of them. If you're curious, then you can see how they're put together here: bit.ly/3T4CmBa And you won't hear me trash talk Alliance. The work they're doing in customer support is unmatched and I love what they're doing with NRVTA trying to make camping better than before
Very nice Cedar Creek 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
👍👍Thank you! Thank you!👍👍💙💚💙💚
Real nice design an construction applied to this bath an half
Wow!
I like it! Thanks Josh.
Ty Jim!!
Total fan of front living room floorplans. Makes it so open and airy, especially with that color combination.
This one gets a Ten out of Ten
wow! ☺
Cool
This may be our next rv.. in the market in the next 12 months.. love it.
Good one for long lasting!
If I wasn't broke I'd get this type to live in. So much awesomeness!
Like.. I'm glad you like this RV and I feel good I was able to showcase it for you.. but the other half of your comment also leaves me sad :(
2015 CC never been back to the dealer. Been a issue free coach.
Not the first time I have heard something like that. Ty for sharing
I like the half bath so everyone visiting doesn't mess up that beautiful bathroom. I like to see that 4 door 2 way fridge. Which fridge is bigger? I can never remember. I like that it's very Fluffy friendly.
Each fridge has different benefits
Residential is larger and faster cooling
2-way is better it off grid
Thanks for reminding me who does what Josh, I just can't remember which one does which thing so 2 way is off grid friendly slower cooling and smaller. Residential is bigger cooles faster and sucks the battery's dead if your off grid. 😑 got it. What a dilemma, they need to make one that does it all! Bigger, coolest faster and uses less power!
Oh my gosh should become Oh my Josh.
Sir Mix a Lot in the house... Great review !!
Yea yea yea
that master bath is perfecttttttt.
Moonscape space invaders game play going on under the mirrors
Definitely with the main bathroom being through the bedroom the half bath is a necessity rather than a pantry. The master bath was insanely nice. Overall a certain final fiver purchase but definitely need the diesel to handle that bad boy!
I ordered this model back on May. Came into the dealership end of October so I got the 2023. Driver side livingroom slideout bulb seal was missing 2 inches of the track it was supposed to be attached to. Mid coach AC was mounted crooked and every set of shades in the livingroom was mounted crooked. Missing several screws on the driver's side slideouts. Guess it wasn't too bad compared to some of the stories I've seen. I do like the interior changes better than the 2022.
Man sorry to hear that. Hope you were able to get that all sorted and enjoy it
@@JoshtheRVNerd will find out tomorrow when we do the walk through
Reminder to keep an eye out for the Nash 25 DS.🤞
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Don’t let anyone tell you that these units are constructed to haul across the country. We have taken ours twice from Michigan to Arizona, and had major issues EVERY night we stop to set up. Interior sliding doors falling off, closet clothes hanging systems literally pulling off their mount. Plan to fix something EVERY time you haul these units.
I’m tired of doing their R&D for them..
Are you referring to RVs in generator or Cedar Creek models specifically?
Not trying ot argue/diminish what you're saying. Purely curious and seeking clarity
With so many manufacturers focusing their development on the "being there" amenities, it's nice to see one going the extra mile (pun intended) when it comes to "getting there". That upgraded pin box and running gear goes a long way toward driver comfort and peace of mind. Better travel access, relocate the slinky tube and an entry door window would be nice, but none are deal breakers. I'm a function over form kinda guy, so this one speaks to me. Were I in the fiver market, I'd be willing to part with some paychecks for this one--plus I'd get to go truck shopping! (My Ram 1500 just wouldn't do) A-1 job as usual, Josh. 👍👍
Ty for watching and “getting it”
This is a house on wheels. Very nice. 2 issues: Washer/Dryer in the rear of the camper. I know that’s where the master bath is but, it will take a beating while traveling. I’d be willing to give up the half bath and put the washer/dryer closer to the center of the camper. 2nd issue: The window valances have a fabric center that, on camera, look shiny or sparkly. Tacky, tacky, tacky (in my opinion). A nice contrast color to the light colored wood in the valances would look more in line with the overall decor. Thanks for sharing, Josh!
My pleasure! I am impressed with your W/D knowledge
Just would want some other color for My furniture instead of white
I think they are one of the few still offering 2-3 sofa decor options
Boss Can we add a 3rd ac like in the kitchen area. Or comes prep for 3rd ac.
It’s been a minute since I refreshed my knowledge in these but I am pretty sure they have allowances for a third air
I love this unit, but it seem to be riding the max weight of me 22 2500HD!
yeah I think these big ones are one ton country and frankly.. I don’t know that someone would regret having a dually
The bedroom over the windows as long as it slides is perfect for CPAP users so they don't wrap the hose around their throat. I know my CPAP machine is behind my bed that the hose comes up and over. If there is actual cupboards above bed then a hole where the tubing can come down with machine in cupboard.
I have also heard it’s not good to have those machines above your head but I am not well versed in them
I like the totally separate living room area from the kitchen since all my animals would be traveling with me and this gives me and them much more room both on the floor and on the two couches.
Maybe you can help me with this one. I wish there was a bunkhouse with the entertainment seating area of a front living.
Not aware of such a critter. Jt would need to be larger than they can likely build I would imagine
My dream camper. Only thing is does the furniture come in different colors?
Cedar Creek is actually one of the only brands still offering multiple sofa colors. Three I believe. One is actually a classic cloth as well
Looks like a home! Can the refigerator be 12 volt?
That aren’t currently offering one but I would like that to be the case
Wow!! Real white interior. Still more brown than I like but amazed to see that much white. Yay!!
Love the Ocho ESPN reference!!
Hahahaha
Bold strategy, Cotton
The deal breaker for me, no road-mode bathroom access. With the rear bath it would seem a rear door might be a remedy? I'm OK with no kitchen access. I plan to get to a Harvest Host or Cracker Barrel if I'm traveling between locations and timing so I'm not pulling in after dark. I'll pack a picnic lunch and cooler for the truck. I do want to get to the bathroom though!
I get it. That’s why I try to showcase everything best I can
Ty for joining!
A real winner for sure, thanks Uncle Josh! Er, almost a winner.
The main thing I don't like about this one is how they've cluttered the doorway to the driver's side access of that front pass-through - I would sincerely argue they need a new term for it, as they've severely limited what can actually pass through there on that side. The battery and cord reel could have gone in that front storage box! I guess the idea was to be able to access those things while still hitched up? ...and then I saw the size of the door on the other side, which made the situation even worse. The area inside can hold so much, but it has to pass through a tiny door on the passenger side or get knocked around by the battery box and scraped on the power cord/cord reel. If the cord is actually still on the reel while you're trying to get in there it would restrict access even more. Granted, I'll probably never be able to afford this unit in the first place, but if I could this defect would probably cause me to pass this, otherwise stellar, rolling abode over for something else (though the sale prices on the website are amazing and actually put it within reach!). The rear under-storage is great, yes, but if I want to put a small cooler/fridge on a slide tray in the front area, so I can just hop out of the truck to grab drinks and a packed lunch at a rest stop, that's simply not gonna happen and with fridge access limited in road mode, that's a huge deal.
Yeah traveling with this one is limiting. It really feel like this is for someone that’s just going to get there and setup for a while though
I could be wrong. Sometimes how I see it and how someone else doesn’t don’t quite jive and that’s ok
Really like this 5th wheel, makes me feel better about the construction and I like the storage in this one both inside and underneath.
I like the new colors and no carpet. The storage is phenomenal and I love their build. Front living rooms are not for us, but what a great RV. I have to admit, I couldn't finish the video without "Baby got back" in my head. Thanks for the videos.
😂 sorry!
I do like this unit a lot - so many good points but one glaring issue for me are those windows! I've said it before and I'll invariably say it again in the future but frameless windows are a no go for me. I like fresh air and to me those windows are like your four inch fart fans. Thanks for showing this one and the factory tour!
I've noticed more brands slowly shifting away from them. For a few years they were EVERYWHERE
@@JoshtheRVNerd Having them go bye-bye would be a good thing or at the very least make window types an optional choice when ordering, IMO.
Sal (The Theater Seat Guy) Sorry I haven't been around for while, got put into TH-cam jail because of something I said on my podcast. Anyway, Love the set up on this, the power recliners are awesome. doesn't look like the table and chairs are fluffy friendly but no matter for us, the Mrs. and I eat in our recliners anyway. Light fixture over the island is nice. It would be just the two of us but the second bath is handy. Love the way the stove is set. I'd go with a queen to give room for a CPAP. Love that bathroom. The road mode isn't that great. Would love to have access to one of the bathrooms. The rear basement storage is awesome! Are those tires H rated? Better location for the sewer hose storage would be nice. Also, is that an on demand water heater? Hope you have a great weekend Josh and all viewers.
Uh oh Sal causing ripples over here!
I don’t think they’re using h rated tires btw
Josh, my wife and I really appreciate your videos! Because of you, we were able to find the features we liked (you don't know what you don't know) that you've demonstrated in your videos. We bought one at Bish's in Montana. Thank you for everything and we intend to keep watching.
Wow congrats Jon! If you haven’t done so, then would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand?
Master bathroom is much nicer than in my current 16x80 mobile home. The back splash guard behind the kitchen stove I thought looked exceptionally nice and is it tile or just a patterned solid panel that is there, surprised you didn't mention it. For me getting to the fridge while traveling on the road isn't that a big deal and I would just keep a small cooler inside My vehicle.
Love the decor! Love the light colors, but I would rather have more kitchen counter space and less giant fridge. Also, no access to either bathroom in rode mode is a deal breaker.
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Don't laugh. The black tiles in the bathroom would drive me crazy not being completely even and covering the entire space up to the mirror. I do like this one. TFS 😻 Britt
Lol, I could barely watch that part of the video let alone live with it! Peel and stick? Easy fix
We went and looked at a new one and I told my husband the same thing. That would drive me nuts, he said easy fix. Lol
I must be weird.. I rather enjoy it
Do you think Cedar Creek is better than a Montana?
In some ways, yes
In others, no
It’s a matter of which is better for what you’re seeking
Josh I know that you know that aluminum can corrode and disintegrate.
It can oxidize sure, but the conditions for that to occur aren’t as common in RVing
@@JoshtheRVNerd I mostly agree. Just thinking that your saying that it can't rot and/or corrode isn't quite right. And us long time watchers do trust you to give it straight. Yes, we know you push both sides of issues depending on the camper (floor vs. ducted heating), but saying that something can't happen vs. unlikely to happen. That's my quibble. I still love your humor!
@@smonroeh Fair enough. TY
The entry door.......i dont like the idea of just the peep hole! There are so many doors out there with a window AND a shade out there.....why dont this high end have one???? This is most deff a BE THERE model vs a get there unit. Nice job though with that rear end bath room!
Ty Mike! I always wonder about that peep hole but I remember there’s a window on the slide overlooking the steps
You have sold us on the Cedar Creek, we want to look at some. Do not like the cable slides and the bathroom and bedroom is unacessable in tow mode.
Maybe another model would suit you better
I have several here on this channel and a few more coming
I love the colors in the living room! Could put fake greenery across the valances with all that room. Kitchen is nice. I like room on sides of stove. Plenty of storage. Think I'd put a desk where dining table is. Bedroom - I need side stands for my water etc. Decent storage and bedroom style is pretty. Bathroom is perfect - except I don't like the weird black tile treatment.
The quality construction of this one is important to me as full timers. Prefer rack and pinion slides though. Thanks for another great review! It was "EXTREE" good!
Ty Terry
Lol!! Great video made me laugh as well great job..
To me, these floor plans make each room too small as opposed to an "open floor plan" rear living room. I don't like the idea of having to go up and down the stairs to get to the living room because you spend so much of the time there. Most ex-military folks knees are shot! Plus, the lack of access to anything (especially the lav!) is a deal breaker for me. That is non-negotiable for me. Need access to my own lav en route.
That's a fair point for sure. It's like a big house chopped up into small rooms - everything feels small
Keep the song lyrics coming, you are a hoot! Great review! Does this one have w/d or hook ups?
I love that they care enough to to make and sell a solid RV, not a disposable RV! I can't go from long term mold exposure to moving into a full time RV that can...MOLD😜😲😬! Nice job Cedar Creek!
Beautiful unit! I prefer lighter colors! Only thing I would change is making all the wood cabinets/doors all the same color. Farmhouse decor, I just can't like, no matter how hard I try😂🤷♀️😂
Have a great day Josh!
Yeah washer and dryer prepped
What a beautiful RV! Does anyone build a bumper pull towable with a similar frame quality?
Love the Sir Mix alot reference lol. You had me rolling. Keep up the good work Josh. You are truly one of a kind.
Their build style isn’t really common at all. They make destination trailers but not really traveling models
@@JoshtheRVNerd i was thinking the same thing, any chance in the future they might s to start building travel/camp Smaller sized but equally well built units.? Maybe put a bug in their ear 👂🤔🙂😉
Thanks for the tour of this one ❤️🐾 it's got my Pom's stamp of approval, oh and My Half Shih Tzu thing too.😆
Question: How does the island flip up shelf work?
There’s a pair of “wings” beneath you flip out to support it
Well few modifications and it could work for full time. Like toss the sofa beds in the so called living room. Dont need to house the neighborhood. What's the hugh doors by the televator? Fake or storage? Put a desk on one side & need place for books & definately individual recliners.
Smaller fridge, chuck the microwave. Need more counter space & c'mon toss the dinette! Free standing table & chairs. Half bath works.
Bathroom remove one sink & put in a utility (deep) sink.
Not impressed with the goofy geometric lighting decor - already lived thru the 70s. 😳😄😄😄 There - just knocked off another $50k! 😊
You doing ok? I don’t mind if folks share when they don’t enjoy something but you seem a little.. off today. A little unlike your normal replies
Just checking in
@@JoshtheRVNerd 🙋Hi Josh. Ohhhh just a bit frustrated. Wanting to find another rig that won't need a zillion modifications & will keep me dry! 😄
(Flash floods here yesterday & part of the house flooded.)
Anyhoo some things on these rigs i just don't understand. To full time in, one would think of it as "home"... Right? At leaste that's how i did it. It's like who has two sofa beds in their sticks & bricks living room with a cramped theater recliner for two? 😄 i really don't want much. Just a practical functional rig/home to get back livin in the forest again. I had a 33' RK Sea Breeze 5th wheel, pass thru split bathroom with w/d in the hall, east west queen, tons of storage & a Onan generator! (Also had a vintage Class A to travel in & a modified vintage class C to back country. They all had a good generator! Practical & functional 😳)
🎼Those were the days my friend . . .
@@hshalom9113 Man I'm sorry to hear about the home. It feels like your life gets hijacked by stuff like that. Feeling out of control always puts me into a weird mental place.
I hope you're able to get worked thru everything :(
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks. One of these days I'm gonna show up and get me another rig or two. You do take 💰💸 don't you ? 😊
Got my eye on a vintage that should get me there.
@@hshalom9113 we do still accept cash. Here's it's still just as good as money lol :)
Love it but wouldn't work for me.
Truck pricing doesn’t seem to be letting up
construction rules them all 👑 like the delam + aluminum bones 🩻, the amount of seating in the living room is dreamy 🤤, the solid mold of the shower (cleaner), vents on walls vs floors, and that thicc booty ☺️
L.A. Face with an Oakland Booty😂👍 I love his songs✌️
What's with the giant doors by tv ??? And dinette set is a big no !!! Free standing please
Giant doors???🤔 I'm thinking the dinette conversion would be an easy fix.
They just look really wide on either side under televator
Agree - kind of plain looking. Easy to remedy though.
Well few modifications and it could work for full time. Like toss the sofa beds in the so called living room. Dont need to house the neighborhood. What's the hugh doors by the televator? Fake or storage? Put a desk on one side & need place for books & definately individual recliners.
Smaller fridge, chuck the microwave. Need more counter space & c'mon toss the dinette! Free standing table & chairs. Half bath works.
Bathroom remove one sink & put in a utility (deep) sink. Mirror way too big. Where's the medicine cabinet?
Not impressed with the goofy geometric lighting decor - already lived thru the 70s. 😳😄😄😄 There - just knocked off another $50k! 😊
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Guilty
I'm not a big fan of the white furniture as a general rule. They show dirt/hair and wear much more than darker ones
I think they still have 1-2 other sofa decor options btw
Nice trailer but your biggest downfall is all that white it looks terrible in a trailer the bathroom looks fine in white the rest of the trailer does not
Greetings Josh !
Once again thank you for the professional presentation you make Josh. I really like this fifth wheel trailer, except the windowless front door, i don't like it.
At the next !!
Ty Jacques!!
Thank you Josh for bringing us this unit. I really appreciate you bringing us the good and bad of every unit you show. I like this one a lot. My biggest dislikes are that they used cable slides for the front living room and the battery compartment in the pass through storage seemed awkward. Great unit though. Again, thank you for your hard work 😓!
Why 2 sinks in a trailer master? It is, truly idiotic. More storage? Bigger shower? Combo washer/dryer? Lose the 2nd sink!
Nice COMMODE ROOM. Man this is a nice rig I know for sure if I were to tow this rig it would not even make it to the first destination because it would be destroyed with my driving ( 🍻beer might have a part ) 👈MAYBE . 🤣🙋💣🚽💥💥💥💥💥
Shes little in the middle, But shes got much back...... I had to stop the video to lmao...
Hahahahaa
I really like these Cedar Creek RVs👍even though their $140,000 MSRP is literally double what I paid for my house in 1990😂
Thankfully their MSRP seems more inflated than most of these
Guess I'm wondering why I'd buy this over an Alliance Paradigm 385FL, when Alliance has a better layout for the 1/2-bath, better construction, waaaaay better field service... liike... waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better... and did I mention better construction and field service? Also, the basement storage on the 385 is much larger and can fit a cricket golf cart!!
"Better construction" -- may I ask how you arrived to that conclusion? Are you familiar with cedar creek's build process?
@@JoshtheRVNerd good morning and thanks for asking, Josh... I am actually, having toured both FR's and ARV's factories ... twice each, in fact... along with several others, including Keystone and GD/Winnie ... combine that with having funded numerous independent inspections on several of each of these and many other notable manufacturers (across brands), I've concluded so far that literally ALL manufacturers in the RV space cut lots of corners in the name of profit - some more than others, and some less... I'm incentivized to source only the best product for my family, not to just paint the sky over all RV's with rainbows... sure, you point out so-called short-comings, but let's be honest, they're mostly aesthetic and subjective and rarely go behind the walls because your incentive is to SELL... bottom line, this industry is headed for a reckoning, despite high demand - social media and some industry press are doing the consumer a solid and exposing inherent systemic quality problems. Right now, ARV is doing the least shitty job of putting out a quality product, in part because they're working hard to minimize the need to actually deliver on their post-sale process in the field - to wit, better outcomes up front lead to less costs later... Pay attention to what I said, and not what I didn't... I did NOT say they're doing a great job, I said they're doing the least shitty... No doubt, there will be ebb and flow of output quality as time goes by and the economy does what it's going to do... in the mean time, you keep doing what you're doing, but expect that some folks in your comments know just as much as you do, if not more... and might bubble up from time-to-time... Be curious, not judgmental. #BBQsauce
@@NetworkPIMP Thank you for the information and clarity. I asked because the construction of a Cedar Creek seems to be one of those things very few people really know or understand. I'm not sure which of Forest River's factories you've visited but Cedar Creek is not made like most of them.
If you're curious, then you can see how they're put together here: bit.ly/3T4CmBa
And you won't hear me trash talk Alliance. The work they're doing in customer support is unmatched and I love what they're doing with NRVTA trying to make camping better than before