Wet & Windy Wild Camping in Snowdonia - was I WRONG about this tent?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- We've come to Snowdonia National Park to go Wild Camping. Our backpacking trip starts at Llanberis hiking through Dinorwic Quarry before reaching our first summit. The forecast proved wrong for our wild camp where we ended up wild camping in heavy rain and strong winds.
I brought my 2024 Nortent Vern 1. Mark has got the TarpTent Scarp 1 and Brian the Hilleberg Akto. All these tents are suitable for winter camping. These are are solo camping tents too albeit all very different.
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Unfortunately, I didn't bring my waterproof trousers so my bottom half got soaked including my hiking boots. My Fjallraven Vidda Pro trousers aren't remotely water resistant! The wind was too strong to use my waterproof backpack cover so anything that wasn't in a dry bag got damp. Yet again, I broke more AV equipment too. Wild camping uk vlogs are costly in poor weather conditions.
The Nortent Vern 1 stood up to wild camping in strong wind and heavy rain really well. The inner doesn't flap about unlike other tents and the structure remained strong throughout. It's spacious too for solo tent camping. The little touches really make this tent, I'm really impressed.
Backpacking gear used:
Osprey Aether 60 backpack
Nortent Vern 1 tent
Big Agnes Rapide SL sleeping pad (regular wide)
Sierra Designs Cloud 20 sleeping bag (regular)
Nemo Fillo Elite pillow
Flextail Gear R2 sit pad
Sanmarc head torch
Nitecore NB10000 battery pack
GoalZero lantern
OEX Heiro camp stove
Sea to Summit bowl, mug and spork
Sponge, OEX hand towel and micro towels
Hiking gear used:
Salomon Quest hiking boots
Darn Tough socks
OMM Kamleika jacket (100% waterproof!)
Thrudark Ithrax jacket
Fjallraven Vidda Pro trousers (100% not water resistant!)
OMM Raid insulated trousers
Merino Wool base layers
Xtremities gloves and neck warmer
Food:
TentMeals Jalfrezi
Fell Store Porridge
Welsh Cakes!
Coffee Brewer coffee bag
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Thanks, Andy.
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Just knew you would be straight out of the door with the 2024 Vern 1 after yesterday’s review 😂, which is why I waited until today before pulling the trigger and buying it. I hike in the Southern Alps, so unfortunately I have to spend extra for safety which is why this review is so helpful. Was all set to buy the Soulo but this seems to be better, irrespective of price. Great review. Thanks
You won’t regret it. I’m certainly not going to waste people’s money just for some clicks. You’ll love it, I can promise you that!
After getting through the motion sickness of the first few minutes of constant spinning 😂 I found this video really good. Nice work.
Very impressive pan around Andy at 0:40, you must have been on casters. But I am bedazzled how you beat me to the scoop again! I thought, well, OK, Andy is in Snowdonia for the weekend, got back , there he is , uploaded 8 hours ago. WTF! But well done mate. Good trip in rough conditions. Glad you like the tent.
I was there Friday to Saturday. My mates were already going as they need to get their climbing legs ready for Morocco. There wasn’t much to edit either because the weather was 💩 😂 Great tent, it’s a keeper 👍
@@BackpackingUK Harsh conditions, you did look a bit stressed Andy!
The new Vern looks great, apart from all the great features and the strength of it it’s also just a great thing to look at! Even the colour is great! But I still think if I was in the market for a proper mountain tent the Kuiu Storm Star would be the one I’d go for. Same pole design, same rock solid strength, loads of pockets, same weight but bigger and two doors.
That's a great tent too, I'll definitely be testing one in the future.
If you're 6ft or over the Storm Star is a one man shelter, you'll have to sleep diagonally to avoid touching the sidewalls and getting condensation on your bag.
14:14 that was exactly my impression after 8 days of Lake District and summit camps in wind and rain. Lovely tent, really well thought out, so many great details. They really studied their tents at Nortent.
Nice one Andy. Looking forward to seeing this tent in long term use. I always take about 12 months before purchasing a new tent 😂 so it will be interesting to see how this ine does long term for you.
Great vid mate 👍
I'll definitely be using this a lot, for me, it's almost the perfect tent.
This is getting compared to the Soulo but no one is mentioning the Southern Cross 2 which is more expensive than the vern 1 but cheaper than a Soulo but is lighter and more roomier than the vern and has proven over the years that it can handle the 4 seasons of the uk weather, based in the uk with great customer support
This looks like it has more space than my SC1, that only has 50cm deep vestibule against this 65cm. Other dimensions look similar and the twin poles stop the inner sagging like miss Haversham's curtains which is a real pain with the SC1. But this weighs nearly half as much again compared to the SC1.
Couldn't agree more mate, I wrote an email to Terra Nova saying that they just need to add 20% extra space to the Southern Cross 1 and it would still weigh less than both the Vern 1 and the Soulo, it would be way lighter than the Southern Cross 2 (it wouldn't have the extra door, zips, pegs etc). They seemed quite responsive (they probably get annoying emails like that all the time mind you! Haha). I also told them to get rid of the red pole, go for a nice gold or bronze, still would look cool but way more stealthy for wild camping. Bring on the Southern Cross 1+ I say! I've got the Southern Cross 1, good tent and I will keep it for a while but does need more room really especially for winter.
another great video, i dream to go snowdon and lake district just finding good weather time slots and the drive is abit much from south london just for a weekend - im heading to dartmoor next weekend for my first solo wild camp, done 2 so far with people so i feel prepared and your videos have helped alot - keep up camping!
I'm not sure what you were wrong about, the initial "unboxing" was glowing. Anyway great looking tent. Should provide lots of opportunities for camping in fairly extreme weather
It'll be over the top for many wild campers but the wild campers who choose to camp in the hills and mountains will love it!
Brilliant video ive been waiting on this review. As previoisly mentioned just waiting on mine.
I paid 465 without footprint (incl shipping) wow amazing .
Keep up the good work pal. Ill share my vlog with ya when ive recieve mine
Ordered the OMM jacket based on your review, thanks! You go on some great adventures! I hope to make it out on my first Scottish wild camping trip soon after I get back from Iceland next month. Love your content, and its helping me build my kit so thanks again 👍
Another great upload. Very useful and very entertaining 😎🇬🇧
Next it would be really interesting to see how much condensation you get on a night when there is a big temperature swing from max to min. It is those nights when the dew point changes so much that is a true test of how well the ventilation works. That's my one beef with my Soulo
Great video, waiting for my new Vern 1 to arrive ! Please keep up the fab content
Great vid as always Andy, always look like you're having fun no matter what. I have the vern 1 pc, I love it. Never had anything like it in the wind, silent. Just have to be careful not to touch the inside in really bad conditions or you have to wipe it a few times until the barrier has reformed. I've just bought this as well. Then one will have to go......... Maybe 😂. Keep up the good work mate
Just ordered my Vern 1.
It's my first one person tent other than the Rab Ridge Raider Bivi (non-tent).
Ordered direct from Nortent and it's still cheaper than pre-ordering in the UK from authorised dealer.
That's my tent purchasing over now, I'm well equipped with other lighter (X-Mid 2 Solid) and bigger (Black Diamond 3P Mission) tents.
I was torn between several choices both 1 and 2 person tents but this video prompted me to hit the buy now button!
Thanks 😅
Good to see this tent put through its paces Andy. I'm looking to buy a four season tent. The Nortent Vern 1 looks pretty good. I used to have a one man ridge tent which stood up to some wild storms. 3 poles at one end, two at the other. It had an inner and fly, and was really warm in winter (Schiehallion in the snow) and could fit two men or my fiancé plus dog). I could never fit it in my back pack & I think it was quite heavy. Eventually the seams became so stretched it leaked a lot. I wish I could remember what make it was & the specs. I have photos & videos of it somewhere.
I just found out my old tent was a Saunders Fellpine. I think packed up it was 2kg, but I'm not sure. Would you or anyone else happen to know the specs on the Saunders Fellpine please?
Nice one Andy !
It looks so good and solid not flappy at all.
👏👌👍 cheers G
I hate flappy interiors, they're just really annoying!
Hats off to you guys for going to that area of Snowdonia in February 👍 our nickname for Elidir Fawr is “mount doom” 😂 thanks for the tip of the vacuum packed food, might try those 😋
Thanks for sharing, the weather can be brutal sometimes. I’ve been soaked before many times even through waterproof coat and trousers. Im taking 4/5 of my fellow teachers to Dartmoor in 2 weeks to give them a Dartmoor experience before we take a group of Gold DofE students there. I’ve been thinking a lot about what equipment I want to take and haven’t decided whether I’m taking a tarp and bivvy or my BL Soulo. I was going to wear my newish Vida Pro trousers but they’re not waterproof as you say. I need to plan what we’re eating too. On one hand I’m thinking I just buy dehydrated food, I’ve enjoyed tent meals before too but on the other hand I think we should use Trangias to have a proper DofE experience. Thanks for sharing!
I'm going to wash my Vidda Pro's with NikWax as I've heard it really helps. I'll let you know how I get on.
A nikwax wash is a good idea. That would get a lot of views if you made a video I expect. Thanks
I've used my little ridge storm tent many times on Dartmoor. It was great in wild storms in The Lake District and Scotland. I've also been using a Trangia for nearly 40 years, still brilliant.
Loving the vern 1 new looks a good soild tent,can't wait for mine to arrive and get out and test it
Hi Andy, I’m a new subscriber and find your videos very informative. Fantastic video and great review of the new Nortent Vern 1. Wish this had been available a year earlier, I bought my Hilleberg Soulo Black Label last year, this certainly looks like it will give the Hilleberg a good run for the money and at almost half the price 👍
I doubt you'll have any trouble whatsoever selling your Soulo to buy this tent instead!
They are going to sell allot of those tents! I think it would make a great bikepacking tent cause it is a bit heavy, nice camp guys, cheers.
Time to sell my Hilleberg Akto and order the Vern 1 2024, looks like a no brainer. Thanks for the real world review.
It’s a bit raw, but at least you know what my mate thinks of it (who’s never heard of Nortent and owns a Hilleberg & MSR) and my genuine response to him.
I normally carry around a Hilleberg Kaitum 2 GT which is over 4kg with a footprint so the Vern 1 would be a welcome change. I've also a Big Agnes Copper Spur Long at around 1.4 kg but not sure it's suited to summit camps and typical British weather.@@BackpackingUK
Good to see U out Andy, my 1st hike to Snowdon was from Llanberis... Was a very memorable trip at the age of 15🙂, but now 53😕 I've still got our list of route coordinates hidden away & like to think that I'll return there in the near future maybe with my boys...🙏 That tent looked solid👍 but shame U got soaked...!👎 Was that the OEX Heiro Stove U were using...? Not having used one before, I wasn't sure if the insulating jacket on the pot was supposed to stay on when cooking, as I thought it might burn or melt, as seems like a type of neoprene material... Plus in an English Woodsman video I'm sure he got his one burnt by a mate & was not very happy😄🤦, but I can't remember how that happened now...!🤣 I like Ur saying "Hope for the Best, but prepare for the Worst...!"👊 Actually that doesn't sound quite so positive now🙄😆, but very true...✔️ "Act in Haste, Repent at Leisure...!"😂💯 Have a goodun dude...
Yes, it was the OEX Heiro stove. Great for boiling a small amount of water quickly but unsuitable for cooking. It's really compact and reasonably light too.
Nice video.
One thing I've learned over the years... take mountain weather forecasts with a pinch of salt, they are wrong as often as they're right. 😆👍
You’re not wrong 🤦🏻♂️ BBC was wrong too but the Met Office was reasonably accurate. In future, I’ll go with the worst one and hope for the best!
@@BackpackingUK
Good idea.
A few years back i camped in the Rhinogs, not that far from where you were, beautiful evening spent star gazing etc, forecast clear and fine, woke up in the morning to 4" of snow.
All part the fun I guess. 😆
buzzing for mine , can’t wait to feel what it’s like to be able to sit up in my tent lol 😂
Andy do you think this tent needs seam sealed ?
Another excellent video Andy.
Great video mate,looked a descent hike and camp out.
Loving the vern 1 new looks a good soild tent,can't wait for mine to arrive and get out and test it.👍👍🏕🏔🏕
ANDY, thanks for the reply. George.
Looks like a great tent but going for the tried and tested USA model Kuiu Storm Star 2p tent at 2.2kkg with footprint. An absolute bomb shelter and spacious. Let's see how the Vern's do over a year or two in bad weather on the mountains. I'm sure now they have upscaled the poles (vern 2) it is going to do well!
Great job Andy, keep it up!
Cheers 👍
I’m 6’7” and will take the sacrifice for the weight for the extra space. Can’t wait to get it and thrash it
Nice Video! I like it! ❤ Keep up the good work 👏
Cheers 👍
Thank you for taking us along! Snowdonia is beautiful - I drove past a lifetime so and it is on my list for backpacking.
What is that flashing light in your tent for?
Whenever I vlog in bad weather I break AV kit. This time I broke my camera light (it wouldn’t stop flickering even though it was turned off!) and my lapel mic 😩
I just seen your public apology video, also when I read the booklet that comes with this tent it mentions about double polling it as well so maybe it will withstand the winds better.
It clearly states double-poling. That's the problem, people don't read the instructions. It's not just this tent, it's all tents. I feel sorry for the Brands who end up having to replace the poles and get a bad rep too.
@@BackpackingUK yes its does mention about double poles if users only looked at the instructions, its either get stronger poles or double up with their brand and they ain't to expensive but more to carry, the tent material have with stood the elements and thats the main thing, it keeps dry inside and have not torn even when a pole have snapped so its shows its strength, someone needs to now double pole this tent and get out there in the high winds and give it another go before destroying its repetition anymore.
That does look a really nice tent, north western Glyders are a lovely area. Shame about the weather as the views from Mynydd Perfedd looking up the Ogwen valley is one of my favourite.
I know, I was gutted 😭 At least it gives me good reason to do it all again 😁
A properly long inner tent! Nice 🙂
I totally love my Soulo red line - but the biggest irritation I have with it is the size - if only it was about 15% bigger it would be ideal (for me, being tall) - and then this comes along. It could be the tent that weans me off my Soulo .Which is I guess what Nortent are aiming for....
Great tent when its given for free to review!
Definitely took the steep route up! I'm glad the tent performed well. I'm tall so the extra length is a godsend. Droopy inners and normal size tents just batter my head all night so I'm looking forward to when mine comes. Did you bother sealing it?
I didn't seal it and there was absolutely no sign anywhere of water ingress. The tent is nice and long so it'll take tall people although the height may not be quite as high as some people like. The inner doesn't move about much at all compared to most tents and the whole structure is fairly rigid too.
Even the sheep wore the proper colors 🤙🤙🤙🇺🇦
Thanks Andy! Fantastic video - you must have worked hard to edit and post so fast. Could you comment on the headroom in the new Vern 1 2024? Length looks great for tall users, but is the headroom good too? Specs say the external height of the Vern 1 is 100cm… so I’m guessing the internal height is similar to a Hilleberg Soulo. Interestingly, Hilleberg only give the internal height of the Soulo (95cm) and Nortent only give the external height of the Vern 1 (100cm)… but I’m guessing they both have similar internal height?
I've heard other reviewers have said they've measured 95cm. I did mine roughly with a tape measure so it's definitely not accurate. However, I will say my head never touched the inner, even when sitting on my pad, so it's likely to be closer to 95cm.
Is that the standard Big Agnes mat? I have the Long Wide and not sure it’ll fit without forcing into the sides of the tent.
Great upload.
Mine’s a regular wide 👍
The Tarptent SCARP1 does not show any Crossing Poles in use. I'm wondering why the owner chose not to use them.
I have a TT SCARP 2 and have "engineered" my X-ing Poles to run UNDER the fly and anchor in the grommeted webbing that I removed from the outside and sewed just at the apex of each corner PitchLock strut triangle. (VERY strong anchor point)
Then I stabilized the poles by sewing and seam sealing shortened double-sided Velcro cable wraps to the two lower reinforcement points for the outer X-ing Pole straps for each pole. I had to shorten each pole 6" to fit properly. Damn near bombproof!
The crossing poles are in use. I know that because I put them on.
I stand corrected. @@BackpackingUK
Another great video that really shows this tents potential Andy! It makes me so glad I ordered one straight after seeing your 1st video on it.
It's will be my 5th tent after 13 years with a Vango Alpha, 8 years family camping with a Robens Twilight Dreamer, 2 years using an OEX Phoxx II V2 for many solo trips .
I very recently purchased OEX Hyena II (at just £44 I couldn't resist) While it was OK in a recent Brecon camping trip & hiking Pen Y Fan with lots of rain and some strong gusts, I was left wanting more...... which is when I saw your original Nortent video 😉)
I love exploring that quarry. Some much to discover and can’t be done in one trip. By the way, what size was your Ithax coat? I recently ordered a large, my usual size from Thrudark, but it was huge!
Mine’s a XS and I’m usually a S in most Brands. I sized down.
Nice review, waiting for it to arrive. Can I ask if you seam sealed it with the supplied sealer before use?
I didn't use the sealer because I don't think the tent requires it. This is worth a read... nortent.com/blog/seamsealing-what-why
Thats perfect, thank's ever so much
Hi Andy, another top video! Do you kind me asking what waterproof jacket you had on?
Thank you and all the best.
Darren
It’s an OMM Kamelika. Absolutely superb. It’s probably the most breathable waterproof I’ve had and it’s 100% waterproof. I suppose that’s what you get when you buy something designed for fell running. The hood is a perfect fit too.
Thank you so much for getting back to me. It is appreciated.
I'm looking for a new waterproof jacket and keep toying with a Paramo but what you had on looked good.
@@darrenmccann5184Hey mate,
Have you looked at the Keel Munro jacket?
Had all sorts of waterproof jackets over the years from Mountain equipment to paramo, but the Keela Munro tops them all.
If it's used by mountain rescue in Scotland it must be good.
And for a steal at £165
All the best,
Allan
@@allanshillinglaw3083 Hi, no I've not seen them but I'll look now. Thank you for the advice it's really appreciated 👍
Well, I researched the Keela Munro. Loved the sound of it so ordered one and I'm delighted with it. Thank you again.
Nice tent 😍 I guess we can use it without the inner if weight is an issue ? Can we?
Hi! Love your video!
Me and my girlfriend want to get into wild camping, we’re definitely newbies, so looking for a cheap, lightweight but weather resistant tent, is there any you recommend ?
Thanks :)
Have a look at my Naturehike tent reviews or OEX 👍
Is that the wide rapid sl? I was thinking of getting it but didn't think it would fit in the sierra designs night cap sleeve( non down version of your bag) or did you just lie it on top? Don't think it'll fit in southern cross 1 either, so was gonna get regular size. Tent looks awesome and the trip looked fab but tough, nice one boys👍🏻👍🏻
From my understanding, the reg bag goes on a reg pad and a large bag goes on a wide pad. My reg went over my wide pad but it’s not ideal.
@@BackpackingUK thanks pal, considering sc1 tent space I think I'll just get the reg.love the channel, top trip ideas❤️
Good video but spin round slower when talking to camera! It can feel like you're on a merry-go-round....
Hi Andy. Have you made any videos for any waterproofs? I have just bought the Berghaus Paclite jacket and pants but have not tried them out yet. Can you recommend them or have you any comments about them? I have bought many waterproofs in the past and not found any of them 100% waterproof. Berghaus claims, "This camping, hiking, and walking essential's amazingly effective GORE-Tex fabric guarantees you'll stay dry in the worst conditions and even in unexpected downpours." What do you think?
Hello Mr backpacking uk I watch your videos I do a lot of walking and a bit of wild camping I trust you when you are testing and telling other people what you think about kit tents the vern 1 I watched as I am. Looking for a tent for winter wildcamping I cannot justify to my wife spending 1000 pounds on a hilleberg soulo when she's a hospice nurse working till midnight seeing to the dieing so when I saw your review and loads more on the nortent I was really interested and the video of some idiot camping in 50 60 mile an hour winds does not change my mind you are to me honest professional and I trust your videos keep it up and keep going and if I camp and break my tent it's not your fault its my fault because I'm camping with it not you
This is what I was really talking about (which has got construed). For those who can’t afford to spend a grand on a solo tent, but still want a really high quality 4 season tent, I genuinely believe this is it.
very nice video
Hi Andy , not quite as energetic as you but enjoy outdoor trips and camping all year lucky to be near Dartmoor . Can you give a minute please to give me your thoughts on a possible tent I want to buy . Simply put , really like to buy a nice roomy tent for all round camping but not extremely high winds . Dream tent is the North Face Bastion 4 . No doubts , brilliant , great ! BUT....... Trust Pilot reviews of the company are nightmare really bad .
The website seems vague about delivery times and you can't tell where it's being sent from . £850.00 is a lot to risk . Safer with a credit card but was shocked to see 89% giving a 1star rating .to North Face . I know there are always spiteful reviews but 89% . I suppose I've answered my own question but that tent ticks every single box . Ha , sorry to bother would be good if you have any advice . Enjoy your channel and reviews , thanks
For the weather conditions of this camp, would the original Vern 1 have served just as well (and been 0.9kg lighter)?
It definitely would’ve coped, it’s still a great tent too. This is on a whole ‘nother level though! Even when the wind was battering the tent it hardly moved. The space is much more suited to my height too rather than a crazy tall Scandinavian dude 😂
Fellmandave has a video featuring the original Vern 1 out in Storm Kieran, in worse conditions than this test, and it coped perfectly
@@Paul27483 Mine’s a typo, it meant to say would’ve not wouldn’t!
I would say we were all wrong about this tent ha
Thanks for this review. I've been sweating over a future purchase of my first Hilleberg Soulo. This has changed my mind and I'm sure alot of other people too. Thanks. G @RedManWalking
Do you don't like the 2024 Nortent Vern 1, you love it! :-}
Im from the rhondda and I have ordered one of those tents directly from the makers the other week but will be some time before it arrives i'm guessing
Me too. I think we can expect quite a bit of a wait.
@@Percy-c5v well I hope I receive mine before you haha just joking... Yes we will have a wait but it will be worth it, also I think when the tent's arrive here they will be sold out straight away so thats why I ordered directly from them as if they are sold out there will be a longer wait for us.
I may have been seeing things but....was your torch flashing SOS in the pocket of the tent at 5:30 ? !
I broke my camera light and lapel mic. Every time I go filming I break something 😩
@BackpackingUK Can I ask, do you know anything of the Alpkit Hunka XL bivvy bag ?
How high is the highest mountain in the UK? They don't look very high to be honest.
Ben Nevis is the highest in Scotland at 1345 metres, so not high when compared with other places
If you think, there are only 15 mountains in Wales over 3,000ft and much less in England. Scotland has more, but even then, nothing like the Alps, Pyrenees or outside of Europe. That's why we try and summit multiple peaks.
@@BackpackingUK Gotcha, thanks for your respond! I sometimes thought that they weren't that high. I live in low mountain ranges, so these are just hills for me.😁 If I go hiking and camping in the Austrian or Swiss mountains, I can't do it in one day. I'm usually spending 2-3 nights on the mountain until I'm back at my car. But I like the rough landscape in the UK. It seems like it's always very windy and very humid where you hike.
What's not to like about those double doors. Do you think you'd get away with using lighter pegs for non-extreme weather scenarios? I'm looking to see where any weight can be shaved off!
For good weather there's no need for the footprint or all those legs. The groundsheet is already really thick (70D) so should be ok for most ground surfaces. It's fairly solid with just 6 pegs. 8 or 10 and it shouldn't move at all. Even the main bag is quite heavy with a big pole bag and big peg bag. I'm sure you could trim a bit of weight off.
If I've read correctly the whole thing as supplied with the footprint, spares & stuff sacks is 3.1Kg.
The footprint is about 320g, the seam sealer & spares pack is around 100g so taking them out gets you down to around 2.7 Kg.
I can't find a weight for the tent/pole stuff sacks, but if every gram counted I guess you could ditch them and drop 100-200g (possibly more) for an even lower total 👍
Would you say this tent would prove to be reliable in high wind conditions ? Does it match up the hillieberg in that factor?
The specs are pretty much the same. The ends seem a bit more aero than the Soulo and it has more guys too. I don’t see why it would be any worse. Obviously, the Hilleberg is a higher quality tent but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll outperform the Vern in the wind.
Hey, I'm having a hard time choosing between the Nortent Vern 1 2024 and the Kuiu Storm Star 2p. Which one do you think is better?
To be honest, you've got two of my favourite tents there. I'm also looking at the Storm Star. Both are excellent value for money compared to the Hillebergs (literally half the price) and apart from one or two incidents, there is lots of content out there showing these tents in all weathers.
The Storm Star is definitely bigger. It also has a vestibule on each side too. It ticks a huge amount of boxes plus it has DAC poles too.
The Vern is really well made and has some great features including excellent ventilation. The footprint is smaller making pitching easier up high.
I think it depends how much space you want and if you want a bad weather tent or a full-on storm proof tent. If I was storm chasing in winter I'd go for the Storm Star as the extra space would be nice with the long nights. However, for any other time I'd probably want the Vern.
Hope this helps!
@@BackpackingUK
Thanks for your reply, mate.
It's a tough choice, innit? I'm going solo, however, I do like my space in my tent. The Vern 1 2024 has some cool features, like clips for keeping the doors open, mesh ventilation zips, and a stuff pocket for the inner door. But the Kuiu Storm Star 2p has no mesh on the vents, only on the inner doors, roll-toggles doors but more space, great storage pockets, two vestibules, and it's really sturdy. I'm leaning toward getting the Kuiu because of the space, but the Vern 1 has some nice small details, as mentioned above, that are making it hard to decide! 🫣🤦♂️🤔
ANDY, thanks for your advice about UNIGEAR kit. I cant find unigear trecking poles, can you help please ? George.
I think they’re out of stock at the moment.
Out of interest, if you were to rate your Southern Cross for foul weather worthiness out of 10, with a Soulo scoring 10, what score would you give the SC?
Probably an 8.
Where do you park the car when going wild camping in snowdonia ?..is it safe to leave the car ?
Llanberis car park 👍
@@BackpackingUK thank you.
@@BackpackingUK is there a charge ?
How do you reckon this would fair against snow load compared to the Soulo? I'm looking to use it specifically for mountaineering.
It’s a seriously strong tent. However, if snow loading meant everything to you I’d go Soulo BL.
Thanks for getting back! no doubt the BL would dominate in snow, but I'm also concerned about the interior length of the Soulo as I need to fit a 6'6 bag with 7" of loft on a 3" sleeping pad. Do you think I'd have enough room in the new Vern 1 without hitting the interior tent? @@BackpackingUK
PS - Who is Andy?
Hi Andy, where did you park for this?
Llanberis car park near the train station. It was approx £8 all-day from memory but I left the car overnight. No ticket in the morning.
Does it fit big agnes rapide sl wide ....
Yes, that’s what I use 👍
Did you seam seal it or straight out of the box..
I didn’t bother as I don’t believe the tent requires it. Have a read here… nortent.com/blog/seamsealing-what-why
@@BackpackingUK thanks for the information.. I’m liking this tent even more
Do you need to seam sealed?
No but read this… nortent.com/blog/seamsealing-what-why
Does this tent need seam sealing like there others ones?
I’m not seam sealing mine. Have a read of this… nortent.com/blog/seamsealing-what-why
I am incredibly tempted to get this tent
I have to say this tent is for cold countries. You gonna be cooked in warm countries.
For severe weather, which would you take, this tent or a Soulo BL ?
This tent is spec’d closer to the red label Soulo than the black label.
Good video, but please stop spinning when talking, it’s making me giddy 🤢 😅
1st! 😂
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Hi mate have you seam sealed?
Still not and won’t until it leaks. Some tent designs don’t really require it due to the sewing design process.
@@BackpackingUK thank you sir