Recently bought a stock 6MPS here in Australia, watching all these vids is giving me some inspiration on things I want to do it! Keep up the great content brother 🤙
Im not 100% sure, but it wouldn't be would it? Since it's got a turbo. Though I have heard of loop wholes where people can get turbo cars on their Ps, ie by registering it to a business
Just bought an immaculate 6MPS with 170,000kms after wanting one for goddamn ages to replace my Mazda MX-6. Can't wait to pick it up this Saturday and hit boost!
Most people call these cars unreliable, but if you mod any car they become unreliable. I own a mica red speed 6 and that thing has never left me stranded.
Facts bro, one main thing with them is that you have to maintain it well, and if your modifying you have to use the right parts, do it all right and it is as reliable as any other modified or performance car. The problem is the clowns who jump in think they can push 300whp without High pressure fuel pumps and with out doing oil changes every 3k-5k miles, then they do take a dump, but that's the owners own doing imo
@@LifeOfTuners I blew my engine 2 years ago because I didn’t have HPFP and was running Cobb OTS tune. Like a dumbass. Now I know better. Would you happen to own a speed yourself? Follow me on instagram ( JustinKumar2ooo) ❤️
We all make mistakes and learn for the better🙏 I'm currently trying to buy one for the channel, perhaps with a blown engine, covid is kinda extending the schedule, but yeah, currently I drive a na gen 1, and sure I'll check out your page broski
Problem is theyre not that reliable stock, which is where a lot of the reliability complaints come from - there are some fixes that address some of the problems like changing oil feed for the turbo to a smaller one
Love you’re videos. Just bought a speed 6. Previous owner put on a AEM CAI, CorkSport top mount intercooler, high flow catted downpipe and magnaflow catback exhaust. Blow off valve and a swapped motor out of a gen 2 speed 3. Cobb and tuned by freektune. All by the previous owner. Got any suggestions of what I should do next? Imma be upgrading motor mount and installing a oil catch can. But is there any other things I should be focusing on too?
Thanks! I'm sure it will, but just gotta check any way, has it got high pressure fuel pump internals? For non engine mods, engine mounts are a good place to start, just make sure you don't get any that are too stiff, I hear that jbr mounts are stupidly stiff (if you want that then cool, but it will ruin a lot of the dailyability of the car) cobb and corksport do some good ones. Perhaps if you want better braking, go with performance pads and rotors, with braided lines. A short shifter and/or solid shifter bushing will make the shift action really damn nice. In terms of more power, e85 should give you quite a noticable if you can do that, though then get it 1 step colder plugs and you should be good to go
Nice that you got one! I don't get how people buy all these mods then dont actually get to experience the benefits with a tune, but ahaha that's what your getting now, so good on you!
@@LifeOfTuners so bad that the motor is being pulled apart. High levels of carbon. Been walnut blasted and dyno’d twice. Just waiting to get her back on the road
Oh damn, yeah that's the problem with direct injection, espically when past owners don't do carbon cleanup on it, excited for when she is driving though!!
Off to byuying one this week, looking so much forward to that! Thinking about letting a good company do a decent chiptune, however I think I should replace the clutch and maybe also the transmission... any idea's on the trans? Thanks and Thx for the video!
Oh nice one bro, first thing is I wouldn't do a ots chip tune, get a pro tune done, OTS tunes only lead to an engines end. The clutches and trans would 100% be ok for anything like that, but if they're going out then sure, just get a lower milage trans
One thing to add is the rarity factor. I love when I get roasted by Honda boys when they have little knowledge of what kind of beast these cars really are.
One question please, I've previously owned a BMW 330ci and it used to take my money a lot on repairing, what about this one? I would like to maintain it stock
BMW's are nutoriously expensive to maintain, luckily for the Speed 6 it's not too bad, generally if you do regular maintenance it won't give you any issues, espically stock, the main things to look out for is timing chain, on these cars they stretch, ($500 to fix + installation) so if your buying a higher milage model, I'd make sure it's been changed. Another expensive issues is the turbo seals, if these fail they can make the car smoke a lot, you will need a new turbo ($900 or buy a used one) I've done 2 videos on common problems if you want to find out about them th-cam.com/video/mEgmMhauutc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/8VqKZYxdHHg/w-d-xo.html But for the most part they are quite good for maintaining espisally stock
Yeah I wanted something reliable, fun to drive, great to mod, as well as room for family if needed. This covers all bases. Thanks for your review. Keep up the videos man.
Do you NEED a tune for the speed6 with a catless downpipe, inlet, and intake? Or is it only needed when wanting the full horsepower gains from doing those mods? (Assuming you have a HPFP as a standard)
@@HARaZAC as long as it has a hpfp its good for now, first thing is hpfp then go crazy with everything else with the required tuning, things like egr delete, catbacks and a bpv is good without a tune
@@skyeet5632 it's my daily and I only got the intake because the previous owner broke the stock air box lol so corksport intake seemed like a good investment. #fundaily
@@LifeOfTuners np I have seen one that has 238000 km (150k miles) motor has been revised for 4.850 € = 5750 USD I'm not a mechanic (can do oil changes) but I think it would be a good idea to buy it what do you think about that?
I'm working on a plan to swap the 2.5 into my s2 6 5 door hatch turbo with the cx7 auto 6 speed awd transmission. Ratios are better and the 2.5 is superior to the 2.3disi in all aspects.
@@LifeOfTuners it's a while away but for far its all factory parts, I might start with a full cx7 swap so the ecu and security all comes over and it just thinks its driving a cx7
i can only find 2 where i live for sale... 15k euros... guess i'm skipping this one too 😅 i was mostly aware of the mazda speed 3, not this one, and i gotta say, this one does look better!
@@LifeOfTuners well, that makes sense... fwd vs awd, same engine, lower weight... one would think the 3 is "more silly" 😋. but I can't find a speed 3 for sale, I'm not sure if we got those over here tbh... I was already surprised I could find 2 of these as I never saw one around
Sounds a bit biased saying the Subaru is unreliable whilst neglecting to mention that the Speed 6 has some well known and considerable issues of its own. In fact that is the major drawback of the car that scares people off, major issues before the warranty period was up or not long after werent exactly uncommon. Not to say its terrible, like all cars proper maintainence and being aware of + addressing these issues where possible helps to avoid these problems but id definitely take my chance with a Subaru before i considered one of these. Way more common, way more documentation, spare parts and aftermarket, easier to find good examples, even if the engine explodes into pieces youll be able to source a replacement the same day. Plus a proper awd drivetrain. The M6S is more unique though and is more fun out of the box.
Yeah true true, though the Subarus are notably less reliable, yes the same thing can be said that treating a Subaru well will make it way less unreliable, but there are more issues, which require you to be even more conscious about. And fair enough, the flat layout will always have inheritent natural problems by design. Though yes, way more parts and knowledge, plus they're symmetrical AWD system is top tier
@@LifeOfTuners the only common major issue is the head gasket blowing which are avoidable and permanently fixable when they do happen, i wouldnt say theyre notably less reliable at all. People get ringland failures from crap tunes detonating and occasionally spun bearings, and the 5 speeds are known to be weak when pushed. Theres just astronomically more of them getting around = more reports of problems. For every MPS6 there are dozens of cars with EJs getting around Its also one of the most commonly tuned motors which = problems. The MPS6? It was recalled multiple times for multiple issues and there are other common issues that were never recalled, like the stock turbo on it being a steaming pile of shit😂
Though would you rather be replacing a turbo or an engine/trans :/ Man today I legit saw a Subaru motor being disassembled, it somehow managed to Spin a rod and main bearing at the same time, in conjunction with ringland failure. Obviously that's just one car, thought you'd find it funny though. I'll say this, from what I've seen, if you don't treat either of them correctly, the MPS can handle a bit more neglect
@@LifeOfTuners Bad turbos can result in engine replacement. Thats only one of the problems, they have weak rods so they have to be tuned carefully as to not put out too much torque too early, weak drive shafts, crap engine and diff mounts, almost all of the earlier models leaked from the transfer case, they are susceptible to rust due to inadequate treatment of the bodywork, VVT can be problematic, timing chains fail prematurely (though most should be replaced by now). Its not like you have to replace subaru engines or trans anyway if you are sensible, everyone knows if you want to go for power, get the 6 speed, if you dont want a rod hanging out of the block, tune it properly with supporting mods. change oil and coolant regularly to avoid (you should anyway) to avoid HG issues. Yeah as you said just one car; they are super common around here and plenty getting around with 150xxx+ miles with very few issues;
The same can be said for the speeds, the rods aren't really actually weak, it's just if their tuned by someone whose crap, or maintenance isn't kept up, hell you can run 380whp on them safely. even the turbos, run Rotella 5w40, with 3k oil changes, and you won't be blowing turbos. There's plenty of people I've heard that run in the high 300's for several years, stock block with no major reliability issues at all. I can't say the same for many Subarus. Even in terms of modifying, going over 500whp you'll be wanting to invest in going closed deck, it does take a butt load of money to make high power on. Like on the speeds, the you don't need to touch the heads till going near 800whp, on the 3s, same with the gearboxes. But ofc, it's a boxer engine, it's naturally a hindered design from the get go
@@LifeOfTuners honestly man impeccable timing for all your mazdaspeed content they’re kinda blowing up rn it’s crazy. Makes me feel good I had a relatively unknown car to now a lot of people know about them. However I do love having a limited production vehicle as much as it sucks
After discussing why the Speed 3 is so great (th-cam.com/video/ucivzLLp6eQ/w-d-xo.html) it's about time we discuss it's AWD brother
Another great video, keep up the great work. You make me want to buy the speed 6 now
Thanks for the continued support, ahahaha they are tempting
Recently bought a stock 6MPS here in Australia, watching all these vids is giving me some inspiration on things I want to do it! Keep up the great content brother 🤙
Congrats from New Zealand, glad your liking them
is it p plate legal
Im not 100% sure, but it wouldn't be would it? Since it's got a turbo.
Though I have heard of loop wholes where people can get turbo cars on their Ps, ie by registering it to a business
@@LifeOfTuners wait wtf you're from nz? Thought you were British this whole time
Ahaha nah bro, yeah I've been in New Zealand since birth!
Currently rebuilding my ms6, I cannot wait to drive it again!
Oh nice man, excited for you broski
Just bought an immaculate 6MPS with 170,000kms after wanting one for goddamn ages to replace my Mazda MX-6. Can't wait to pick it up this Saturday and hit boost!
Oh nice, congrats bro!!
How’s the car going?!
Im glad I came across your videos bro they are really good. Keep it up 🔥
Thanks mate, that means a lot bro!
Most people call these cars unreliable, but if you mod any car they become unreliable. I own a mica red speed 6 and that thing has never left me stranded.
Facts bro, one main thing with them is that you have to maintain it well, and if your modifying you have to use the right parts, do it all right and it is as reliable as any other modified or performance car. The problem is the clowns who jump in think they can push 300whp without High pressure fuel pumps and with out doing oil changes every 3k-5k miles, then they do take a dump, but that's the owners own doing imo
@@LifeOfTuners I blew my engine 2 years ago because I didn’t have HPFP and was running Cobb OTS tune. Like a dumbass. Now I know better. Would you happen to own a speed yourself? Follow me on instagram ( JustinKumar2ooo) ❤️
We all make mistakes and learn for the better🙏 I'm currently trying to buy one for the channel, perhaps with a blown engine, covid is kinda extending the schedule, but yeah, currently I drive a na gen 1, and sure I'll check out your page broski
Problem is theyre not that reliable stock, which is where a lot of the reliability complaints come from - there are some fixes that address some of the problems like changing oil feed for the turbo to a smaller one
Ahh yeah, but I'd say, even stock, if you maintain them well, they can be reliable
Love you’re videos. Just bought a speed 6. Previous owner put on a AEM CAI, CorkSport top mount intercooler, high flow catted downpipe and magnaflow catback exhaust. Blow off valve and a swapped motor out of a gen 2 speed 3. Cobb and tuned by freektune. All by the previous owner. Got any suggestions of what I should do next? Imma be upgrading motor mount and installing a oil catch can. But is there any other things I should be focusing on too?
Thanks! I'm sure it will, but just gotta check any way, has it got high pressure fuel pump internals? For non engine mods, engine mounts are a good place to start, just make sure you don't get any that are too stiff, I hear that jbr mounts are stupidly stiff (if you want that then cool, but it will ruin a lot of the dailyability of the car) cobb and corksport do some good ones. Perhaps if you want better braking, go with performance pads and rotors, with braided lines. A short shifter and/or solid shifter bushing will make the shift action really damn nice.
In terms of more power, e85 should give you quite a noticable if you can do that, though then get it 1 step colder plugs and you should be good to go
Man I just got mine in July and it’s been in the shop for a month. Previous owner did mods and never tuned and now I’m reaping the benefits,
Nice that you got one! I don't get how people buy all these mods then dont actually get to experience the benefits with a tune, but ahaha that's what your getting now, so good on you!
@@LifeOfTuners so bad that the motor is being pulled apart. High levels of carbon. Been walnut blasted and dyno’d twice. Just waiting to get her back on the road
Oh damn, yeah that's the problem with direct injection, espically when past owners don't do carbon cleanup on it, excited for when she is driving though!!
Off to byuying one this week, looking so much forward to that!
Thinking about letting a good company do a decent chiptune, however I think I should replace the clutch and maybe also the transmission... any idea's on the trans?
Thanks and Thx for the video!
Oh nice one bro, first thing is I wouldn't do a ots chip tune, get a pro tune done, OTS tunes only lead to an engines end. The clutches and trans would 100% be ok for anything like that, but if they're going out then sure, just get a lower milage trans
@@LifeOfTuners thanks for the tip!
Stumbled over your videos recently and love them all. Great content bro
Thanks man, it means a lot to hear the support!
Loved the GT4 Arcade Theme on the outro
Yeahhh it's such a throw back
I have a gen juan 3 and man I really want a 6. They're beautiful
They are man, they really are
Me too man, I’m considering selling my tuned speed 3 for a speed 6
Great video !
Appreciate it Matt
One thing to add is the rarity factor. I love when I get roasted by Honda boys when they have little knowledge of what kind of beast these cars really are.
Yeah facts, showing people what they really are
Awesome video bud.
Thanks!!! I see you're from New Zealand? I am too!
Yeah man. Getting a mps soon.
Ayyy let's go! Should be sick!
my next car. Great price for what you get :)
Yo that will be very nice, such a good car
One question please, I've previously owned a BMW 330ci and it used to take my money a lot on repairing, what about this one? I would like to maintain it stock
BMW's are nutoriously expensive to maintain, luckily for the Speed 6 it's not too bad, generally if you do regular maintenance it won't give you any issues, espically stock, the main things to look out for is timing chain, on these cars they stretch, ($500 to fix + installation) so if your buying a higher milage model, I'd make sure it's been changed.
Another expensive issues is the turbo seals, if these fail they can make the car smoke a lot, you will need a new turbo ($900 or buy a used one)
I've done 2 videos on common problems if you want to find out about them
th-cam.com/video/mEgmMhauutc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/8VqKZYxdHHg/w-d-xo.html
But for the most part they are quite good for maintaining espisally stock
@@LifeOfTuners thanks my guy I'll go watch them 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 thanks for your reply, subbed
Yeah they're really informative if I do say so myself 💁♀️😂 thanks bro, I appreciate it, GL!
Great video. I'm going to buy one as my next car
Ay nice! Very good decision imo!
Yeah I wanted something reliable, fun to drive, great to mod, as well as room for family if needed. This covers all bases. Thanks for your review. Keep up the videos man.
They are great, just make sure you maintain it well!
Will do. I always keep on top of maintenance 😁
Good lad!
I got an 06 3.0 liter and by god it's the perfect car for a 17 y/o like me
Nice, we never got the V6 over here :(
@@LifeOfTuners aw :( sadly mine does not have a turbo
Still a v6 💪
Do you NEED a tune for the speed6 with a catless downpipe, inlet, and intake? Or is it only needed when wanting the full horsepower gains from doing those mods? (Assuming you have a HPFP as a standard)
Yes you will need it, anything changing the flow of air in is required
@@skyeet5632 Right now all the car has is a corksport intake and high pressure fuel pump. Seems to run fine.
An intake should be alright, not advised but ok, however a catless downpipe should get a tune
@@HARaZAC as long as it has a hpfp its good for now, first thing is hpfp then go crazy with everything else with the required tuning, things like egr delete, catbacks and a bpv is good without a tune
@@skyeet5632 it's my daily and I only got the intake because the previous owner broke the stock air box lol so corksport intake seemed like a good investment. #fundaily
Just bought my first one excited to mess with mine 💪🏻
Ay congrats bro, have fun with it
@@LifeOfTuners thanks!
Great content got my self 1
Oh yo, nice purchase!
thought about to buy a mps
now I really wanna do it
Ahaha I'm sorry
@@LifeOfTuners np
I have seen one that has 238000 km (150k miles) motor has been revised for 4.850 € = 5750 USD
I'm not a mechanic (can do oil changes) but I think it would be a good idea to buy it what do you think about that?
Yeah, at that milage the engine would blow up, but if it's been reconditioned then great
What honda was that?
A CL7 Accord Euro R
I'm working on a plan to swap the 2.5 into my s2 6 5 door hatch turbo with the cx7 auto 6 speed awd transmission. Ratios are better and the 2.5 is superior to the 2.3disi in all aspects.
DAMN 😳 Yo that sounds awesome
@@LifeOfTuners it's a while away but for far its all factory parts, I might start with a full cx7 swap so the ecu and security all comes over and it just thinks its driving a cx7
@@LifeOfTuners 3.7 final drive and .680 6th gear, roughly 2k rpm at 100km/62mph
I looked it up and it says they only made 5,000 of these is this true??
Oh wow I just looked that up! That's crazy, though they're seemed to be confusion on forums if it was 5k, 10k, or 13k?
i can only find 2 where i live for sale... 15k euros... guess i'm skipping this one too 😅
i was mostly aware of the mazda speed 3, not this one, and i gotta say, this one does look better!
Oh damn! That's crazy, I'll say one thing, most people prefer to drive the speed 3s, they're just a bit more silly
@@LifeOfTuners well, that makes sense... fwd vs awd, same engine, lower weight... one would think the 3 is "more silly" 😋. but I can't find a speed 3 for sale, I'm not sure if we got those over here tbh... I was already surprised I could find 2 of these as I never saw one around
Ah right yeah fair enough
Sounds a bit biased saying the Subaru is unreliable whilst neglecting to mention that the Speed 6 has some well known and considerable issues of its own.
In fact that is the major drawback of the car that scares people off, major issues before the warranty period was up or not long after werent exactly uncommon.
Not to say its terrible, like all cars proper maintainence and being aware of + addressing these issues where possible helps to avoid these problems but id definitely take my chance with a Subaru before i considered one of these. Way more common, way more documentation, spare parts and aftermarket, easier to find good examples, even if the engine explodes into pieces youll be able to source a replacement the same day.
Plus a proper awd drivetrain.
The M6S is more unique though and is more fun out of the box.
Yeah true true, though the Subarus are notably less reliable, yes the same thing can be said that treating a Subaru well will make it way less unreliable, but there are more issues, which require you to be even more conscious about. And fair enough, the flat layout will always have inheritent natural problems by design.
Though yes, way more parts and knowledge, plus they're symmetrical AWD system is top tier
@@LifeOfTuners the only common major issue is the head gasket blowing which are avoidable and permanently fixable when they do happen, i wouldnt say theyre notably less reliable at all.
People get ringland failures from crap tunes detonating and occasionally spun bearings, and the 5 speeds are known to be weak when pushed.
Theres just astronomically more of them getting around = more reports of problems. For every MPS6 there are dozens of cars with EJs getting around Its also one of the most commonly tuned motors which = problems.
The MPS6? It was recalled multiple times for multiple issues and there are other common issues that were never recalled, like the stock turbo on it being a steaming pile of shit😂
Though would you rather be replacing a turbo or an engine/trans :/
Man today I legit saw a Subaru motor being disassembled, it somehow managed to Spin a rod and main bearing at the same time, in conjunction with ringland failure. Obviously that's just one car, thought you'd find it funny though.
I'll say this, from what I've seen, if you don't treat either of them correctly, the MPS can handle a bit more neglect
@@LifeOfTuners Bad turbos can result in engine replacement. Thats only one of the problems, they have weak rods so they have to be tuned carefully as to not put out too much torque too early, weak drive shafts, crap engine and diff mounts, almost all of the earlier models leaked from the transfer case, they are susceptible to rust due to inadequate treatment of the bodywork, VVT can be problematic, timing chains fail prematurely (though most should be replaced by now).
Its not like you have to replace subaru engines or trans anyway if you are sensible, everyone knows if you want to go for power, get the 6 speed, if you dont want a rod hanging out of the block, tune it properly with supporting mods. change oil and coolant regularly to avoid (you should anyway) to avoid HG issues.
Yeah as you said just one car; they are super common around here and plenty getting around with 150xxx+ miles with very few issues;
The same can be said for the speeds, the rods aren't really actually weak, it's just if their tuned by someone whose crap, or maintenance isn't kept up, hell you can run 380whp on them safely. even the turbos, run Rotella 5w40, with 3k oil changes, and you won't be blowing turbos.
There's plenty of people I've heard that run in the high 300's for several years, stock block with no major reliability issues at all. I can't say the same for many Subarus.
Even in terms of modifying, going over 500whp you'll be wanting to invest in going closed deck, it does take a butt load of money to make high power on. Like on the speeds, the you don't need to touch the heads till going near 800whp, on the 3s, same with the gearboxes.
But ofc, it's a boxer engine, it's naturally a hindered design from the get go
Currently own a 3rd Gen 6. Would trade for one of these. Hit me up.
I'm not a massive fan of the speed 3 but the speed 6 makes a very fast good value jdm daily
I don't like the first part of your coment hehehe but yeah the speed 6 is sick
Mazdaspeed 6 is 80 in the back 20 in the front and 90 in the front 10 in the back with parking brake installed prove me wrong
It's a variable system though it can only go upto 50/50 or was it 60/40 front bias? Idk, though yeah I think most the time it was 80/20
@@LifeOfTuners honestly man impeccable timing for all your mazdaspeed content they’re kinda blowing up rn it’s crazy. Makes me feel good I had a relatively unknown car to now a lot of people know about them. However I do love having a limited production vehicle as much as it sucks
Ayyy, yeah Im noticing like the community is getting bigger rn, yeah having like an unknown car feels awesome
DONT like what you did with the Autobot notifications for your points
Ok sorry cheif, fair enough
Still prefer the speed 3
Same
Owned one for a week was the biggest pile of junk I’ve ever owned
Uh that's rip