I Off-Road My New Jeep Wrangler for the First Time - Is It As Good As I Thought It Would Be?

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  • ( tfloffroad.com/ ) After buying his brand new 2021 Jeep Wrangler Willys, Tommy actually takes it out onto the dirt. Is it everything he hoped it would be, or is this one Jeep you're best to avoid?
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  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    The best part of this video is " because I couldn't afford it". A completely honest rejection of the trends automotive industry. Well done.

    • @taraaaron1242
      @taraaaron1242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nono, see you're just supposed to tack on another 12 months to the lease!

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nope, he could afford it. He just chose to utilize his money elsewhere. He should have said, because I chose to be more financially responsible.
      .
      Though he will end up spending more money on it than a Rubicon. You can actually order a Rubi for about $40k stripped down but with a few more standard goodies.
      .
      Tires cost $1500 for 5
      Cost of armor
      Cost for sway bar disconnect
      Cost to regear
      Cost for lockers
      .
      The Rubi is the more financially responsible one especially considering residual value.

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KTMcaptain Base Rubi might have been a stretch. 10K more than Tommy's Jeep. I think he really wanted lockers.

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Malc664 it’s not. I found them for under $40k with nothing added on. Contact some of the forum dealerships and you can get 3-5% under invoice + and extra 1% off for tread lightly and then Jeep incentives. I got my JT Rubicon for 10.6% under invoice.
      .
      Catch is you have to order it… which he did.

  • @rrbigbird2
    @rrbigbird2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Love the videos with Tommy and Roman. I recently lost my father, and he and I loved cars, trucks, and bikes. He was always with me whenever I’d buy something. Seeing these two together puts a smile on my face knowing a father and son are enjoying and appreciating vehicles the same way me and my old man did.

  • @RobOutdoors623
    @RobOutdoors623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Dude 6 speed, 2 door Wrangler?? That’s the way to go. No shame there! Don’t need a Rubicon for 98% of off-roading lol

    • @krasnaludek298
      @krasnaludek298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree & I have a JLU Rubicon … it’s overkill & mostly a pavement princess.

    • @garbinator09
      @garbinator09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I often think about a new JL Sport S or a Willy’s. Having had two rubies I never honestly needed the full capability each one offered. If I did it again I’d want to stay 33’s or 34’s as narrow as would be safe. I would go with a stick. 2 door. Gi Green all the way. I done built one on Jeeps site.

    • @pineappleboi27
      @pineappleboi27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krasnaludek298 I'd say more like 88%

    • @coreykeesler7014
      @coreykeesler7014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just ordered a JLU willys with the 6 speed CANT WAIT FOR IT

    • @MrKegsworth
      @MrKegsworth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coreykeesler7014 I ordered the same in June, just now shipped! Can't wait!

  • @theinternets7516
    @theinternets7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    You guys should use this Willys Sport as a baseline 4x4 that is your baseline expectation for 4x4 performance. It could be the "control" in all of your experiments with other 4x4 vehicles and would make it really cool to see this Jeep in a side by side comparison with all the other vehicles you test off road.

    • @phantasmagoric3934
      @phantasmagoric3934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they should use the regular sport for that comparison

    • @AustinH7
      @AustinH7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Don’t know if that’s a good idea for the control to be better than 99 percent of off-roaders

    • @theinternets7516
      @theinternets7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AustinH7, the only real advantage is a rear LSD. The short wheel base helps too but as far as equipment goes, this is a pretty basic off roader.

    • @phantasmagoric3934
      @phantasmagoric3934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theinternets7516 naw

    • @AustinH7
      @AustinH7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@theinternets7516 true it is very basic, I’m speaking on terms of any vehicle with 4wd, this still would kick most vehicles asses offroad, the solid axles, short wheelbase, lsd, of course a vehicle with lockers and beefy tires would stand up to it

  • @mrknoch
    @mrknoch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I heard him say "manual windows and manual mirrors" "as stripped down as you can get" and it made me think of my first Jeep with zipper windows, no radio or AC and an inline four cylinder! Love your Jeep, though.

  • @stevea3936
    @stevea3936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I swear I thought Roman was holding a poodle inside the Jeep. No, it was a camera and fuzzy microphone.

    • @brandonrenfro4200
      @brandonrenfro4200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was like “what the hells wrong with that dog?” It was being very still.

    • @tman7449
      @tman7449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahaha 🤣 I was going to write the same thing!!

    • @shadetree6705
      @shadetree6705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TFL's next video: "Honey, I shrunk Blaze!!!"

    • @handyman2183
      @handyman2183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I kept thinking that very same thing.

  • @fritty9927
    @fritty9927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Tommy I love your Jeep and I’ve never owned one and at 67 probably never will. I love the crank windows, manual door locks, ect. Ect. No confusing or busy electronics to foul up. Very nice.
    PS: don’t let the detractors talk you into the aftermarket rabbit hole. You don’t need sway bar disconnect or lockers or 50 inch tires. Keep it simple stupid! Words to live by.

    • @lolotus4borderless
      @lolotus4borderless 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      gosh I feel exactly the same

    • @JonBecker81
      @JonBecker81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe a winch is all he needs. That’ll give him the security and confidence to really try and push it and take it in some sketchy places that he probably wouldn’t do without it or if he was by himself.

    • @toddhoffmaster6057
      @toddhoffmaster6057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The swaybar disconnect (less than $160) changes the abilities of the Jeep so much more. Having an extra 2" of suspension flex is so much better than wheel spin. Tires on the ground means more traction.

    • @fritty9927
      @fritty9927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toddhoffmaster6057 BS. Been wheeling for decades. You don’t “need “ it : you want it.

    • @toddhoffmaster6057
      @toddhoffmaster6057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fritty9927 have you wheeled a vehicle with a front solid axle? Have you wheeled anything more difficult than a graded fire road? I will agree with you but only if you are talking about independent front suspension.

  • @sergvegas5446
    @sergvegas5446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Son and dad having fun in a jeep = Priceless!😎🇺🇸

  • @jimmymorrison3973
    @jimmymorrison3973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The Jeep looks epic on that trail. It’s just so right with the two door scampering up the trail. Good purchase for honest reasons.

    • @gregmize01
      @gregmize01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish more people would buy these and shift the market away from all the bs that's on vehicles that never gets used.

    • @garbinator09
      @garbinator09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregmize01 - I was one of those you speak of. 2012 MW3 package. Rarely if ever HAD a need to engage lockers. Limited slip, coupled with great rubber and 4.10 gearing made me a happy Jeep dude. I attended numerous Jamborees sticking to easy to moderate trails. Fun fun fun. No stress, no worries over body damage, lots of support if attendees needed it. GREAT eats! Palo Duro Texas I gained weight! If I ever get another Jeep I’d signup do it all again.
      Oh? And I’m an old fart so I prefer auto.

  • @CJ-rk5eg
    @CJ-rk5eg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Love the Willys package! There’s two versions ~ Willys and Willys Sport (less expensive). Yours is the direct descendant of my 1985 CJ. Keep showing us what it can do! Slip test next ?

  • @johnbertram
    @johnbertram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Really chuffed for Tommy. You can tell how much he enjoyed that compared to the TRX just by looking at his smiling little face!

  • @grisa12345
    @grisa12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Interested to hear your account of this JL vs your old JK.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    It would be great to go head to head with a low end stock big Bronco

    • @thepavementendsnow1901
      @thepavementendsnow1901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’d pay money to see that and Tommy’s facial expressions…🐴🐴🥌

    • @mdocod
      @mdocod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Big Bend is similarly priced, better features, way more cargo space, and can be configured with a rear locker for no extra cost. I think Tommy got ripped off.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thepavementendsnow1901 the wrangler will win that and everyone knows it

    • @alfredofernando6445
      @alfredofernando6445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mdocod 1 there's not even Broncos to buy... Factory are superrr slow
      2 so far there is 1 bug in the bronco system and we still need some info on engine/trans from customer at 100,000km use atleast, "jeep v6 has alot more reviews/customization"
      3 the bronco is BIG THICC BOY and thst for off road is not good plus more heavier "Google a pic of jeep 2 door and bronco 2 door..."
      4if you want to custom the car jeep have aloooott more parts to use

    • @mdocod
      @mdocod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alfredofernando6445 Hi Alfredo! The Bronco is indeed more of an unknown with regards to risk adoption. Given that risk vs known Chrysler junkiness I would take the risk personally. Track width of Bronco is only 2" wider than Wrangler. Same track width as the H3 that I wheel all over and still narrower than full-width axles+offsets that many people wheel on. The Bronco additional size is negligible.

  • @bigt4135
    @bigt4135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m feeling pretty good about my 2019, 2 door rubicon, manual for $35k. It has the bigger screen, power windows and locks, and a soft top.

    • @lesterparker1594
      @lesterparker1594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Prices 2 years ago are not what they are today. Basically ass $5-10k to what we were paying even a year ago

    • @mdocod
      @mdocod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice Buy!

  • @foxs-jc9ib
    @foxs-jc9ib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    i love the fact that you didn't get a rubicon, because a lot of the content on youtube would make you think you need a rubicon to go on all of these trails.

    • @mdocod
      @mdocod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact that this thing struggled, requiring multiple attempts, tires spinning, and eventual momentum bashing to get up that rocky hill is enough reason to have lockers. Lockers take vehicles up those trail sections without any drama or wheelspin, making a much better ride for passengers and less wear on the trail. A Big Bend Bronco with a rear locker would have walked up that without spinning/drama.

    • @mdocod
      @mdocod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AA Mech Similarly equipped (like with AC) the Willys is much closer to the cost of a Big Bend Bronco than you're implying.
      The 2 door vs 2 door, willy sport vs big bend.. Bronco has 60% more cargo space, better wheelbase for highway and trail stability, better crawl ratio, better creature comforts and features.
      The cost difference from Big Bend with rear locker to a base+sasquash package is about $4000, not a few hundred.
      Wouldn't that 99% rule make the AT's more useful for 99% of driving than MT's? A MT tires are louder, cause vibration at low speed on roads, get out of balance faster, have garbage traction on ice, and wear out faster. The LSD won't make up for the lousy winter traction of muds on ice. The argument you're making here is that most people won't be on the trail enough for the locker to be important, but then suggesting this same audience should drive around on mud tires for daily driving? Seems a bit ironic.....
      For most trail running, AT's and MT's perform similarly. The only place MT's have any advantage is mud, but truthfully there is no highway capable mud tire with large enough voids to really be all that good in mud anyway, so it's a marginal improvement in that 1 situation for a significant compromise in daily driving and winter weather driving.
      On the topic of an LSD in the rear.. vs driving open on ice/snow. A full-time LSD, if it's aggressive, is actually very likely to cause the rear end to kick out and get squirrely on ice. Combine that with mud tires and a shorter wheel base, the willy's is a recipe for disaster in the winter for most drivers. The Bronco running the rear open by default, on AT's, with slightly longer wheel base, is apt to be much more predictable and controlled on ice.
      -------------
      I run STT Pro Muds on my H3 in the summer for trail running and daily driving. In the winter I switch over to duratracs with studs. I have never encountered a trail scenario (or road going scenario) where I felt that the mud tires were meaningfully advantageous over a well built AT. Mostly I live with more road noise and worse fuel economy because they look cool and that's most of the benefit. They do have tough sidewalls and tolerate being aired down very well, but I know a solidly made AT would handle the tough trails just fine.

  • @hhseguras
    @hhseguras 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every video I see you with your dad brings a smile to my face. My dad passed away a little over 2 years ago and I miss him a lot. Certainly your father has raised a very good kid and I pray that you guys stay that close and never, ever, let pride to ruin your relationship. God bless you!

  • @darrelltrammel1623
    @darrelltrammel1623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I am glad to see this. I would like to see more content that shows the capability of the lower trim levels. Most of us don't have Rubicon $$ for a hobby.

  • @elizabethademi2740
    @elizabethademi2740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I LOVE that you have a 2-door Willys with a manual transmission!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @teop7887
    @teop7887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    @ 5:17
    ...uh, it says "Willys" on the hood? 🤣
    Congrats, beautiful Jeep, beautiful place to take it out and play! 👍👍

    • @kelvinhill9874
      @kelvinhill9874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no apostrophe. It’s just “Willys”.

    • @teop7887
      @teop7887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kelvinhill9874
      Dang auto-text ! Haha, thanks 😁👍

  • @sebastiansaxon
    @sebastiansaxon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I actually love that it has manual windows and locks

  • @DinkAround
    @DinkAround 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No need for a locker. Add a set of sway bar disconnects and you will climb great in that rig. Low tire PSI and flex go a long way on the trail.

  • @dufonrafal
    @dufonrafal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    One of the cheapest and best off road mod is a front sway bar quick disconnect ;)

    • @theinternets7516
      @theinternets7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keeping tires on the ground makes all the difference in the world. Way cheaper than lockers too.

    • @noahthorin2476
      @noahthorin2476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The angle grinder solution

    • @dufonrafal
      @dufonrafal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noahthorin2476 bad idea, you can just unscrew it if you don't have the quick disconnect.

    • @dufonrafal
      @dufonrafal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theinternets7516 yep, and it also makes the ride smoother and safer. At 7:30 it would have helped a lot.

    • @nathanreeve2319
      @nathanreeve2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the quick disconnect on my TJ and decided I didn't need to reconnect. I've been running it disconnected everywhere, including freeway, for years now.

  • @thorman944
    @thorman944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:50. Apply light parking brake pressure to engage the rear LSD.

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The affordable Jeep. The real thing! A real 2 door, soft top, manual with limited slip. And nothing else you don’t need. Well, the AC is a nice touch. And cruise is nice. And it’s painted red.

    • @NoGasWelcomeAboard
      @NoGasWelcomeAboard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got an “affordable” 2021 also. But it’s a Rubicon for just little more than Tommy paid: th-cam.com/video/qsQ5LfCIgyA/w-d-xo.html.

  • @warrenparlee8083
    @warrenparlee8083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is good to see a man who loves off-roading in a vehicle he loves. Well done, sir!

  • @yoyartube
    @yoyartube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Lovin this Jeep. I love base cars in general. I have many mods on my Jeep and sometimes I wish I could go back to the simplicity.

    • @Agent.K.
      @Agent.K. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too lol! Many times I think I over did it that it’s no longer impressive/joyful when I conquer an obstacle. And I added a lot of modes when I was a beginner. Now after some years of experience, I would’ve done things differently.

    • @dirtycommtroop
      @dirtycommtroop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah man. Leveling kit with next size tires and 2 round fog lights on the front bumper. Maybe a winch.

  • @retiredafce3373
    @retiredafce3373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Tommy, I’m not sure but I don’t think the rear differential was working correctly.
    You might want to test it on the rollers you use to test all wheel drive vehicles with.

    • @andrewrudlang2785
      @andrewrudlang2785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This! ^^^

    • @marcjohnson8488
      @marcjohnson8488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the downside of limited-slip axles, they work well in slippery situations snow/ice but when you need them to work the most, they will let you down, unfortunately. An example might be rock crawling.

    • @dcl97
      @dcl97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The axle needs to be spinning fairly fast for the LSD to have enough inertia to engage. The way Tommy was slowly inching up the hill wasn't enough, you need to keep your momentum up with an LSD.

    • @blegi1245
      @blegi1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dcl97 depends on the type. Friction or viscous coupling works at any axle speed.

    • @ohjeep76
      @ohjeep76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The factory LSD is crap because it uses friction and burns up easily. I put a eaton true Trac I believe it's called (mechanical LSD) when I re-geared my jk, and that thing worked almost as well as a locker

  • @DR.Detroit11
    @DR.Detroit11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this package is boss, I do give you credit for finding this. I didn't know it even existed.

    • @officialyasir
      @officialyasir 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s right there on Jeep.com. I can’t believe that the dealer had to tell him about it.

    • @johnnymartinez478
      @johnnymartinez478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@officialyasir probably a lie.

  • @matthew.tamasco
    @matthew.tamasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gotta say, I think you found the perfect spec. You have what you need and can spend money on the upgrades you want when you can afford them. Smart purchase, man!

  • @robm3357
    @robm3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tommy, a great choice and well optioned for off road.
    The 3.6 and the manual is very nice.

  • @gamerscouncil2262
    @gamerscouncil2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i bought this exact build save the engine as i opted for the 2.0 T for the torque and gas milage. i wanted the bronco but the roll out and top issues encouraged me to wait a couple of years for ford to sort all the kinks. im very excited for my jeep to get here.

  • @NWI_Steel
    @NWI_Steel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That is a really nice spec, Tommy! Do you have any mods planned? Or keeping it stock?

  • @k9karma
    @k9karma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love it! Basic, straight forward, and actually affordable.

  • @jennifermckay7984
    @jennifermckay7984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best part of this video, father and son spending time together, sharing in their passion of cars and off roading! I love the simplicity of this Jeep Willys too!

  • @Intentsrig
    @Intentsrig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Tommy, You should get some manual sway bar quick disconnects. It’ll make a huge difference in traction.

  • @jackrotter9434
    @jackrotter9434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy I have an open-diffs red ‘98 TJ and I put sway bar disconnects on… best affordable upgrade hands down. The front axle not only has more articulation- it plants itself to the ground and doesn’t allow the open-diffs to spin. The ride becomes 10x smoother especially with the 2 door. Congrats on the new beast!

  • @MrLangDog
    @MrLangDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "The world's smallest backup camera"
    FJ Cruiser: "Hold my beer"

    • @FJBandFkMAGA
      @FJBandFkMAGA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honda CR-V: “Hold my kids”

    • @StubProductions
      @StubProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tacoma mirror camera.... hold my keg

    • @jaymoar3561
      @jaymoar3561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Latest FJ model is 2014, you can’t compare the two. 🙄

    • @Crimsontide1694
      @Crimsontide1694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaymoar3561 but he just did…

    • @jeepindave5464
      @jeepindave5464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're all correct

  • @dirtycommtroop
    @dirtycommtroop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Manual is also much easier when you are in 4 Low. It pretty much idles.

    • @ipdjbt
      @ipdjbt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Being able to start it in gear without using the clutch is especially nice.

  • @richardlynam7856
    @richardlynam7856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Great value I’m going to look at the same package, like it a lot 👍

    • @mdocod
      @mdocod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bronco Big Bend is only $2K more and can be equipped with a rear locker for no extra charge. It comes with the same tire size, 60% more cargo space, and more/better trim/features/materials. It also has a much lower crawl ratio with the additional "granny" crawler gear, better traction control system, and more engine power at high elevation.
      I don't have any skin in either game. I drive an 09 H3 on 315/75-16, skids, sliders, winch, front/rear lockers, and some steering reinforcements... Bought it used a few years ago with 65K on the odo for about 1/3rd the price of a similarly equipped new Bronco or Jeep. When I look at what is available on the market new today, and factor in my experience wheeling, camping, exploring, etc, I would take a Big Bend over a Willy's without any question. The 60% better cargo space alone would be enough for me if everything else where equal. The Willy's is just very overpriced given the competition. If a Big Bend is $36K then a Willy's+AC should be more like $29K.

  • @johnglenf8611
    @johnglenf8611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first Jeep was half that price.. I bought a new ‘97 Wrangler SE with only three options. It had cloth seats instead of vinyl, 5 spoke wheels with P215/75 tires instead of steelies with P205/75s, and power steering. Yes, power steering was an option in ‘97. Mine had no A/C and no radio. I believe I paid mid $15k for it with destination and tax. The MSRP was $15,7XX. Most dealers at that time we’re doing about $2k additional mark-up but I found one selling for invoice.
    It’s refreshing to see a young man who knows not to buy more vehicle than he can afford. Congrats on your purchase.

  • @kiplambel4052
    @kiplambel4052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE the new Jeep, Tommy! When I first started 4-wheelin manual trans was the only choice, and while lockers existed I didn't know anybody who had one. The one option from a Rubicon I'd like to see in the base model is the ultra-low range transfer case. With a 4:1 low range, you wouldn't need lower axle ratio to put 35's on it.

  • @stuartstuart866
    @stuartstuart866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I really like your new jeep. It’s a basic but very functional vehicle. I’m looking forward to more videos on it.

  • @XFactrAdventures
    @XFactrAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally I want to say congratulations! That’s an awesome rig as your first new vehicle. From a review standpoint, this video definitely convinced me that if I do ever buy a Jeep it will be a bare bones (bare as can be in that trim anyway) Rubicon - it would be worth the wait to save the extra money. That Jeep should not be struggling so much on that Rocky incline. I realize the camera doesn’t do the grade justice, but my LX570 would have eaten that hill for lunch.

  • @JeepsCafe
    @JeepsCafe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just ordered my Jeep Willys today same color as this one. Longer version, needed the extra room for family and cargo. Won't be be delivered until spring. Thank you TFL for your hard work in testing and reviewing the Jeeps it helped me pick out the one best suited for me. 👍👍

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tommy & Roman, If there was ever a 4X4 where a locking diff should be available across the board, it has to be a Wrangler.

    • @theinternets7516
      @theinternets7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. 4Runner too. I feel like for certain vehicles it should be available a la carte regardless of what trim model you're buying unless they decide to include it automatically like with the Rubicon and TRD Off-road and TRD Pro models. It would be nice to be able to get something super basic and tack on a factory rear locker as a 1-2k option.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theinternets7516 The last time I checked you could get a locking diff on a RWD Chevy pickup so there is no excuse for true 4X4s.

    • @jerroldshelton9367
      @jerroldshelton9367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd rather have the limited slip.

  • @gregoryjulian1333
    @gregoryjulian1333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tan seats look great. Nice choice. Enjoy your new Jeep! 👍🏼🇺🇸✌🏼

  • @awdlover4349
    @awdlover4349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video: I usually have off-road with my dad and his 2019 Suzuki Jimny A/T on the Italian alps. Also it has a naturally aspirated engine (even if it is smaller w.r.t. the jeep one: 1.5L 102hp) and its tiny dimensions is perfect for narrow “streets” commonly found in the Alps

  • @browndogstt8546
    @browndogstt8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congratulations Tommy! You get the perfect colorado vehicle. I can't wait to see what mods you make.

  • @joetavares2155
    @joetavares2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say thanks for informing me about Webster pass. My son and I went out there from Kansas City last week and ran the entire length and had a blast. Side note... my 2019 F150 fx4 6 inch lift, Bilstien suspension was allllllmost too wide for the hwy285 downhill side of the pass. Most of the trail was plenty wide but at one spot there was a washout and we had about 4inches to spare with the 35"12.5 20's. There are holes in the two front seats from our butts clenching so tight but we are alive and have a story to tell and and an experience we will never forget!!

  • @Kung.Pao.Kitty.
    @Kung.Pao.Kitty. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's official. You made my decision more difficult. Thanks!

    • @WyessEnt
      @WyessEnt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re looking in California let me know I sell these beautiful Jeep’s

  • @pablomoreno1999
    @pablomoreno1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You seemed to have all wheels slipping going up. I don't think the rear locker would have made a bigger difference in that case, i ain't no expert though
    I maintain is too basic given what you paid but MAN does it look good. Clean and simple. And the soft top if it insulates the cabin well enough i think is a better choice than the hard one, good video!!

  • @jeffrentsch4318
    @jeffrentsch4318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad to see new 4X4 being used straight away.

  • @larrytillick952
    @larrytillick952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job, just remember a rear limited slip does nothing for the spinning front end.

  • @jamieshepherd3187
    @jamieshepherd3187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tommy, you could look into a clear coat wrap to help protect the paint work

    • @Hiram27
      @Hiram27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least a door and fender wrap. Plus it keeps that winter road salt off the paint. Love winter in the Rockies!

  • @OldManJimmy1
    @OldManJimmy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a new Jeep Rubicon back in 2013 and could not be happier with my purchase. Great choice, you can add lockers and sway bar disconnect when you have the funds or even want.

  • @ryanc5517
    @ryanc5517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching you drive around with your new “basic” Jeep, it reminds me of the first few videos I saw of you when you looked like in your late teens off-roading with a couple of your friends. I vaguely recall an episode when your friend’s Jeep stalled at a gas station.

  • @MrScary-207
    @MrScary-207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 2021 Willy's Unlimited also lacks power windows, locks and mirrors...I tell myself, It's less things that can break.

  • @problu9586
    @problu9586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First week, drove my then spanking brand new stock bright white 2020 Wrangler Rubicon to explore off beaten paths in and near Death Valley. Driving to Chappo Springs, began moderate, but later included unexpected loose rocky climbing challenges and plenty of "pin stripes" on my plain black fenders. Short wheel base of a 2-door was fantastic for getting through some tight maneuvers.

  • @aldo90731
    @aldo90731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is so refreshing to see a video about a $30,000 Wrangler being used out in the wild, as opposed to a $60,000 Rubicon --or a non-existent Ford Bronco-- on a controlled course. Over the years I have found his comment "there is something satisfying about a front solid axle" to be so true.

  • @NarleyAdventures
    @NarleyAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a brand new 2012 2dr rubicon and almost 10 yrs later I'm still exceptionally happy. Disconnecting the front sway bar would make a lot of difference off road..

  • @viperboy619
    @viperboy619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just curious did you disconnect your front sway bar? i know you mentioned that you aired down, but disconnecting that front sway bar (couple 18mm wrenches) is going to really get you that softer ride and more articulation, have fun with your new ride!

  • @northerntoyota7584
    @northerntoyota7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice jeep tommy, same model I’d go with. As for the worlds smallest reverse camera, I direct you to a 2013-2015 (roughly, don’t quote me exactly) Tacoma where it was in the corner of the rear view mirror.

    • @atmartens
      @atmartens 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same thing in my ‘11 Acura RDX

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My H3T has one too, it's clear enough though so I ain't complaining lol

    • @atmartens
      @atmartens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wolfgang_h3t That's how I feel. If I can see clearly and see there's nothing behind me, that's all that matters.

  • @brentvalentine
    @brentvalentine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I bought my Rubicon, I joined a couple Jeep clubs. The first few times I took it out, I got a few comments about why I brought my new Jeep out offroading. I just told them, "it's why I bought it".
    Mine was a pavement princess before I got it and it was in pristine condition. Like your dad said, after a few rash marks, it didn't hurt near as much.

  • @camerons6028
    @camerons6028 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its not hard to explain that feeling, its simple, you just don't explain anything, you just let it happen and smile the whole way.

  • @williamheinsinger7390
    @williamheinsinger7390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Willys is My Favorite Jeep Wrangler package 😁👍

  • @ryanmartinage
    @ryanmartinage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Jeeps are just fun offroad. Even in my ZJ, you just feel that offroad pedigree come alive once it goes to 4L.

    • @thorman944
      @thorman944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ZJ & WJ grand cherokees are no joke. Solid axles front & rear, full coil spring suspension. ZJ suspension set the bar in 94 for the upcoming Wrangler (97 TJ) suspension overhaul.

  • @johngrodski4158
    @johngrodski4158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like your Jeep Tommy, sometimes it's good to keep it simple.

  • @crabbyfrog
    @crabbyfrog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Willys package makes a Jeep very capable. Rubicon tires and wheels, Dana 44 out back with LS and 3:73s front and rear. I have a 2016 Willys Wheeler and love it.

  • @gypsyking4234
    @gypsyking4234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Tommy, congratulations on your new Jeep, it's beautiful. I have never owned a Jeep and am planning buy one soon. Now I know which variant to buy. " Everything that you need and nothing that you don't"...…

  • @abqcrutch
    @abqcrutch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A great buy, Tommy! Looking forward to future vids.

  • @thejoshman1234
    @thejoshman1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a loaded Sahara for 33k in 2015. Crazy how much they’ve gone up

  • @small.towns.open.spaces
    @small.towns.open.spaces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cover the sides in xpel paint protection film and you won't have to worry about Colorado Pin Stripes.

  • @pennsyltuckyden9823
    @pennsyltuckyden9823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recently bought the same Jeep Willys 2 door 6 speed manual soft top but in Earl Grey, nice to see what it can do off road, now I'm worried about this new trans recall.

  • @swashbuckler5539
    @swashbuckler5539 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2019 4door sport JL with anti slip rear diff for $36 out the door.. then I bought Rubi rails $130 bucks and 255/75/17 mts.. $800 perfect for what I use it for. Next I’ll be doing 35x10.50x17 along with 2” mopar lift.

  • @Jv19979
    @Jv19979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been waiting on this. I like the hand crank windows.

  • @hughwolfe1176
    @hughwolfe1176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the simplicity of this model, I t’s refreshing in this age of more is better…
    Two years on and I’m still not a Jeep owner (circumstance) but I love the two door. So many people have said “you really need the four door for all of the room it offers”. I’ve been driving MINI Coopers for over ten years, what’s “room” 😁
    Looking forward to seeing more videos of your experience with this Jeep.

  • @timsisco3742
    @timsisco3742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My only criticism of the Willy's after I learned about all you get in that package, is that you don't even have the option of getting a rear locker with it. To me that's bullshit, they want you to jump another $10,000+ to the Rubicon for lockers.

    • @AustinH7
      @AustinH7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. I have a Willys and agree completely

  • @cmag631
    @cmag631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The JL is amazing.... JUST KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR HINGES!!! Mine corroded like crazy around every hinge and it needed multiple repaints.... leading to me trading it in. Great offroad though and the manual everything was refreshing for me.

  • @davidcarriker3421
    @davidcarriker3421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have exact same spec. Willys Sport, manual, soft top, two door, roll up windows, and AC. Mine is green. No problems so far, very satisfied. Very much enjoy the lack of tech and silly driver aids.

  • @niceguyrides
    @niceguyrides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats Tommy!! Glad to see you smiling in your new Jeep.

  • @williamconrad1087
    @williamconrad1087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tommy, I like your red Jeep so much that when you sell it, even if you’re old then, I’d like to buy it.

  • @Diguz91
    @Diguz91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you don't need hill descent control if you've got gearing and a diesel (i have a Td5 Defender)... just leave it in 1st low and it'll crawl down every slope - i can personally confirm it!

  • @lanceislateagain
    @lanceislateagain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to more videos on your Wrangler!
    Might you consider aftermarket rear lockers? Was always interested in how those worked...

  • @travisladd344
    @travisladd344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love that you talked about not raising a tire and as soon as you start down the hill, the back driver side tire comes off the ground around 8:18 😂

    • @AustinH7
      @AustinH7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He doesn’t have sway bar disconnects yet. 100 bucks and that issue is easily taken care of 👍🏻

  • @ChristopherHelgerson
    @ChristopherHelgerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my 2013 Trail Team Fj has the worlds smallest back up camera..it's the corner of the review mirror..like 2.5 inches... :)

  • @the_metalist2221
    @the_metalist2221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought a manual 4D Wrangler in July and love it! It's utterly immaculate, and I'm super worried about scratching it, but fully understand what they were designed for. I kinda want to start a scrap book of battle scars when I finally do go off road 😂

  • @jaybou007
    @jaybou007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine is coming, hopefully. Living in Canada, orders are always a long process. Ordered in April, still no VIN. Can't wait.

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get some sway bar quick disconnects and you will go right through that spot without spinning. Which I think you had on the JK too, they are super nice. And also make the ride on the trail SO much nicer.

  • @kevinthomson6324
    @kevinthomson6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a true statement saying you don’t really need the rubicon. Us regular people are likely too scared to ever get to the point of actually needing a front locker. I would like the 4:1 transfer case tho. Would be nice if they had a parts a la cart option where you could literally pick exactly what options you wanted

  • @montanamountainmen6104
    @montanamountainmen6104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thing I found is my JL Wrangler 2 door turns sharper than the 4 door. Also on dead end roads with little or no room to turn around it does much better than the 4 door. In Montana that is a huge factor.

  • @desertmaverick7567
    @desertmaverick7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of all the Jeep videos that you and your dad have done I like this one the best. It shows what a baseline Wrangler can do right out of the box. I'm sick to death of the Rubicon always being shown. I have owned a 4 door Sahara for over six years and have never needed lockers on 92 trails I've run in the Arizona desert. The first upgrade I did to my Jeep was just putting on a set of Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac tires and I went everywhere on those. Just picking the correct line and taking it slow is the ticket. And no, the trails were not all easy or moderate. I ran some that were difficult and also took some that I won't do again because of trail damage do to the difficulty. I have installed other upgrades over the years; 2 inch Mopar lift, 33 inch Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires, Procomp Wheels, rear and front steel bumpers and wench. Rock rails (the stock plastic rails were a joke) and LED front headlight package and to finish it off a CB radio. I know from experience that most people don't realize that the stock jeep one purchases is the working frame that will be upgraded over the years to the finished Jeep Wrangler that one will enjoy for decades. Oh ya, nice looking Jeep you got there!

  • @tylerp9620
    @tylerp9620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good for you going with something simple and affordable. The limited slip in mine took some getting used to, it will work, you just have to allow more slippage first which is hard with a manual. You have to have enough torque for the clutches to engage. Still a very cool little Jeep, spend the money on a front antirock sway bar so you have articulation with out disconnecting and go on loving that little guy.

  • @MCGaar
    @MCGaar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous willys! I love how you and your dad interact and just enjoy the experience.

  • @FreakyT333
    @FreakyT333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throw a locker in there, not all that big a deal to do. I’ve rarely felt the need to use lockers in my Rubicon though, you are correct that these Jeep’s go almost anywhere without them, especially lifted on 35-40’s. It’s that rock crawling that gets ya without lockers.

  • @dr7319
    @dr7319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Leave it stock. I love it!

  • @herbertmischel3165
    @herbertmischel3165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this video because there has been this fascination that you have to have a rubicon or don’t bother going off road.
    I just bought my first Jeep - Sahara 4xe.
    The 90-10 rule is that I will spend a lot more time on the road than off the road.
    The 4xe was the best handling Jeep that I tested. My building has free EV chargers and I live 25 minutes from MT. Charleston in Nevada.
    I’ll take to the trails as is and if I so choose to add lockers, that can be done. If I choose to add better axles, tires, sway bar disconnect etc, that can all be done. Jeep is the only car that you can actually invest in. So kudos to these guys for not saying that you must have a rubicon to have some fun.

  • @Wrangzilla
    @Wrangzilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You and Eddie over at Wayalife are almost doing the same thing…

    • @ScottyBennitone
      @ScottyBennitone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tommy shouldve gotten the half doors too . It looks so much cooler with them ..

    • @MalachiBurke
      @MalachiBurke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except when Tommy does it it's way better:)

    • @Wrangzilla
      @Wrangzilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MalachiBurke no way. I like Tommy, but He isn’t anywhere near Eddie’s league. Not even close.

    • @MalachiBurke
      @MalachiBurke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wrangzilla wayoflife definitely has mega depth with Jeeps and off roading, for sure. I just have much more fun watching the TFL guys

  • @frankcurulli1244
    @frankcurulli1244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any LSD requires both axle shafts to be turning before the limited slip mechanism cuts in. It only takes a minimal amount of forward motion before the Jeep ELSD operates like a soft locker. Its a good device. The Willys is a very nice practical Wrangler choice. A modern CJ5! Thanks

  • @milesfromnowhere5537
    @milesfromnowhere5537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on the Jeep! Fan of TFL & the Jeep Willys! 😉 Hope to get one some day!

  • @mariog5062
    @mariog5062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy you’re such a fine young man. Your dad must be proud. Enjoyed watching your first off-road foray with your Willy’s. 👍✌️🇨🇦