Honest opinion, Eloy is going to revive Slipknot while doing proper justice to the past (Joey), bettering the present (Jay), and giving hope BACK to the future. Dare I say… All Hope is NOT Gone? lol In truth, Jay was a placeholder that overstayed his welcome. He’s a damn good drummer, but he never made Slipknot better. Joey always made whatever came next, at least, equal to what was before if not better. His versatility created such a unique sound and listening experience whereas Jay, you alwayssss felt like you’ve heard it before… Jay was certainly a lesser talented drummer than Joey, which is not a knock on Jay but the reality toward just how unique Joey was. Now that Eloy is here, he brings back the grove and power Slipknot has been missing for so long, elements to the drums that Jay NEVERRRR could create or even replicate.
@@JoaoPauloLudwig-ix3di Seria um velório foda! Se isso acontecer, me chame @cloudcamdrones. Deixamos o João de fora, pro cara não ser chato pra caralho!
@@dethkor_Li Joey is a legend, that will never change, and his legacy is in Eloy's hands just as it was in Jay's hands, what I mean is that Eloy masterfully plays other rhythms such as SAMBA, CUBAN SALSA, BRAZILIAN FORRO RHYTHM, SAMBA, other African rhythms, he has a vast repertoire of technical resources, which Joey didn't have, not because he wasn't a great drummer, but because ELOY HAD CONTACT WITH THE BEST TEACHERS IN BRAZIL SINCE HE WAS A CHILD, and South American musicians often don't have financial resources, they learn by intuition and that doesn't teach, if you have the natural gift
@@henriquefenrirlins3747yea right bro he was a rich gen z with TH-cam. How does he afford equipment at 12 years old. Latin afro crap doesn't belong in slipknot. Take that crap back to sepultura.
It's not that Eloy is more genius than Joey. He's a genius too, but he's the only one who can execute the studio drums with almost perfection. Joey wrote the songs, but could not play them the same way (due to variations or getting tired). When Eloy tells his story, you can understand clearly that he practice a lot to play hours of a show without dropping a single beat.
Baterista depois dos 30 começa a sem cansar. Se você for pegar a história a fundo de Joey, a bateria não era seu unico instrumento, e mesmo assim o cara amassava. Depois da morte de Paul, você percebe o quanto Joey decai. O cara em 2008/2009 era coisa de outro mundo. Paul falece, vem diagnostico da sua doença. Pra "MIM" (opinião minha, aceita quem quiser), nunca havera um baterista como o Nathan Jonas Jordison. Sei que o Eloy teve uma vez que tocar num show com a sua perna fraca devido a uma operação na perna direita. Mas tocar no Knofest USA 2012 pra milhares de pessoa lutando contra a doneça até o final, aquilo me lembra exatamente quando Senna ganhou o GP do Brasil com carro com problemas mecanicos no câmbio, desistir não era uma opção. Assim como Senna sai carregado, Joey tbm sai, pois ambos faziam o que amavam e davam tudo de si. Sem mais.
You aware of the illness Joey had?? Couldnt care less about Eloy or Jay, Jordison wrote and invented a way of drumming by playing a mixture of NuMetal/BlackMetal, he made it popular. Joey could still play those songs flawlessly until he got sick... Discusting comment, anything to say "ElOy Is ThE beSt"
Na verdade o Eloy respeita tudo que o grande Joey nos deixou! Por tanto, o Eloy sempre faz da sua maneira mas sempre respeitando o grande trabalho do grande Joey... Saúdo a todos desde o Brasil.
with Joey every note was like handed from metal heavens, like IDEAL, every move so natural and at the same time predetermined and not predetermined, like he actualy was master of notes, he could add and take any note, and it sounded like it was NATURAL, not even the slightest odd, and at the same time unpredictable, raw, and even broken and somehow fuking logical and natural... how ... maybe he was not human...
1:38 i hate that he replaces the double bass for weak ass drum rolls. Dude couldn’t keep up. Jay wasn’t the best for slipknot. He never showed anything new, he always sounded like a replacement. F
So every comments on here is made by hispanic people, being completly bias by nationality, Joey invented those songs and is actually a legend. Eloy replaced Igor Cavalera and after he replace Joey Jordison, great talent indeed...
Cool video comparison... Eloy takes the lead ANYTIME on live performances, the dude is just a perfect drum beast. But I'm not sure if that is actually Joey's original audio... plus, to be a good comparison, at least all audio of the three, should be live footage... not studio or not even that...
O áudio do joey não é original mn,e programado da pra saber só ouvindo ele tocando ,mas o que impressiona é o eloy tocando tudo certinho colocando notas fantasmas,esse é fera pra mim o melhor baterista do mundo ,não a ninguém que nem ele,ele é o cara
Joey will always be incredible for the parts he created. He did not hit hard but was so smooth and effortless flying around the kit. The power AND precision that Eloy plays with is staggering. He’s taking these iconic parts to the stratosphere and giving this band an enormous lift. I hope they let him have creative input on the new album. I think he can push them.
Eloy reminds me of Igor Cavalera back in his prime in 96. Watch Sepultura's performance at Pink Pop that year. Igor f**ked around, you'll find out. He spent time training with the Gracie family, of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and MMA fame, who can also be seen in the video Attitude. Under pale grey sky we shall Arise...
So sick of the fanboys downing Eloy. Lol I was pissed off as well when Jay was fired, however... Eloy is doing things behind the kit that no Slipknot drummer has done during a live show in a long, long time. YES Joey wrote the parts, YES Joey was a HUGE creative driving factor in Slipknot, YES Joey was insanely talented. But in the majority of Slipknot performances, you'll find that he uses a lot of off-track fills to take up space and 'cheat' the parts he played in the studio. Not to mention, Joey played sh*t FAST during a lot of their live performances. Sorry, but Jay can't even be in this conversation. The FACT in this matter remains that Eloy Casagrande consistently delivers the precise performance that these songs demand. Anyone that tries to downplay what he's doing or take anything at all away from his performances clearly knows nothing about drums, let alone music.
The point of off-track fills to cheat during live shows is an important point that isn't discussed enough tbh Jay over relied on this technique to the point it kind of made the songs boring (particularly those with blast beat sections). While it's painful to admit with the loss of Joey, Eloy is the best drummer on a technical level they've ever had. It isn't that Joey is necessarily "worse" than Eloy, but, there's just such a difference in the way they both trained and practiced. Eloy comes from a place of training and studying more like a classical musician would for percussion and it's extremely evident in his playing and technicality.
I think you’re mistaken…. Slipknot will never make songs like the ones we know and love again. Slipknot is slowly turning into a cover band at this point. At the end of the day both Eloy and Jay are/were just covering Joey’s parts. And being that Joey was the one who made the parts, he could improvise any way he wanted to on stage. Sometimes raw and crazy imperfect drums is better than super technical and perfect. Keith Moon would be another example of that
I just saw them live for my 9th time at the 25th anniversary show. Joey is goat. I have HELLA respect for Jay and a sour taste about how they dropped him. But Eloy..... Eloy is built different. I haven't heard Slipknot drums sound like that in almost 20 years. I saw them for their 99' debut and now in their 24' lineup. It was a WHOLE NEW show.
Joey mesmo com triggers era muito bom, alias, se o batera não é bom os triggers amplificam isso, fica meio embolado, tipo alguém aí do vídeo kkkk e sim, Eloy é de longe o batera mais limpo que já ouvi, acho que ele e o El Estepario são os bateras mais limpos da atualidade.
@@rogergermanodejesus estepario n é limpo n mano. Ele usa a pele da caixa esticada ao máximo para usar aquelas técnicas. Veja ele ao vivo aí sim vc verá se ele é limpo ou n Limpo é> eloy, aquiles, dave grohl, bill ward( no auge), John lira, dave weckl.. esses são aguns que lembro.
I saw them in a similar intimate setting in 1998 at Club Oz in Killeen Texas. I had never heard of them and they actually were the openers with Machine Head headlining and Coal Chambers in the middle. As a drummer myself and musician- I was blown away by their opening performance. And I wasn't the only one, because when Coal Chambers took the stage- the only thing you could hear were chants of "Slipknot". I felt bad for Coal Chambers. Slipknot mingled and drank amongst the crowd the rest of the show. It was wild. A year later Im in California laying on the couch watching the Box (a music video station channel) and wait and bleed video starts and I hop up and am like wtf they fucking made it and I saw them in a shit hole club. And the only reason I was at that show is because I was asked to DD my friends and so they paid for my ticket
Jay lacks the finesse and groove, he just starts blasting on everything instead of actually feeling it out and adding nuance and flow. Jay was a cheap clone. Eloy is a drummer.
Joey é lenda por ter criado o som, Eloy é um monstro por ter conseguido elevar ainda mais o som do Joey. Pra mim o melhor é o Eloy, e tô falando de técnica, pra comparar em quesito de composição no Slipknot vamos ter que aguardar as músicas que virão. Jay é muito bom mas ele preencheu a parte do pedal duplo com fill pq n aguenta tocar ela toda, a real é essa. Joey é lenda, Eloy é gênio (Futura lenda, FATO). É simples assim.
Pois é, também tô só esperando sair as músicas novas pra entrar mais no hype kkk hoje provavelmente o Eloy é o melhor, melhor que os outros dois, e da mesma maneira ainda vai aparecer alguém melhor do que o Eloy, e assim por diante kkk o pessoal se apega demais e ignora a realidade
It's very satisfying to see Eloy playing. Lots of technique, a different groove and lots of creativity. The small variations he made seem to fit the songs even better. The final part of the video shows this clearly.
@@MrSpectr0É programado, mas tá tudo corretamente programado, eu já ouvi esses sons nesses programas antes Quem dera se fosse o original, acho que de músicas do Iowa não tem as multitracks disponíveis na internet, seria foda ouvir o som real
Tem nem comparação, Jay não consegue 10 segundos de pedal duplo e mete uma miguelagem (leia-se: virada nada a ver) pra preencher o que deveria ser tempos de pedal duplo 😂
Eloy said in a interview that on the first rehearsal he started playing Joey's parts note by note, and Clown told him that he wasn't hired because he can play those parts perfectly just like studio, but because of the energy he brings and the band feeds of.
@bituos Depends on the drummer. Look at Gene Hoglan. Dude doesn't use electronics and he drums circles around Eloy. Inferno from Behemoth, only triggers his bass drums. Everything else is him. If Eloy were to play Extreme Metal, I'd bet he'd definitely trigger his bass drums. Good argument though.
@Stefanoski88 The fact that i never stated that, tells me a lot about your reading comprehension. Either way.. just list me 5 drummers. Educate me. Im really curious.
you can see that JOEY JORDISON doesn’t even look like he’s trying and exaggerating. His movements and precision is just RELAXED YET DAMN! GOOD AND EFFORTLESS. JOEY JORDISON has inspired almost all drummers today maybe includes jay and eloy 😂 and he made “SLIPKNOT” and what/where they are now. 📌JAY is trying to copy JOEY and ELOY has his own technique but it is not sound of slipknot and its getting exaggerating and trying hard and hurrying as if chasing someone. 😂 JOEY JORDISON is irreplaceable NO (1)one can replace the #1 END~~
With all the respect that all of them deserves, here it is my 2 cents as a metal drummer: Eloy is the most technical. Eloy and Joey are very good to put the music and creativity in first place. Joey and Eloy play drums with character, with emotion that is palpable even without seeing them, just listening. Joey created so much new drum parts across the years and didn't see Jay bringing the same stuff into the table and we are yet to see what Eloy will bring (composition).
i think something ppl should also keep in mind is. with no joey there would be no eloy. joey gave a barrier for eloy to break. (also u cant really compare the studio to a live version bc ur going to play in each situation differnt) edit: also forgot to say that joey is prob a big reason eloy and alot of other drummers around the world are where they are today.
Three great drummers with different playing styles. The songs are perfect with either of them playing. No need for comparison to say which is the best. It's just a matter of particular taste.
Is there no comparison? Jay is an excellent drummer but there is no comparison to Eloy for Slipknot's style. Much respect to Joey but Eloy is a beast with drumsticks
@@marcelprestes3842Yes bro, there is no comparison within them, as the guy said, it's 3 particular different playing styles. Even Joey didn't play everything accurate to the studio live. It's a matter of taste, you can't speak for everyone. As a fan i like both, considering the particular band cycles they were.
@@marcelprestes3842One thing i want to ask as well, we are comparing the guys as drummers or as SLIPKNOT drummers? If it's just drummers (refering to technique), Eloy wins, period.
I understand the hype around Eloy, he is incredible, but people seems to suffer of lack of memory because...... JOEY just begun ALL this stuff. He always will be the best❤🎉
@@fadilakbar8607 I'll try to explain it to you. eloy's double bass drum parts: tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu Jay's double bass drum parts: tu tutu tu tu tutu tu tu tu tutu
Jay is fast making me stunned amaze, slipknot just more like dream theater with jay Eloy is powerful making me do more head banging like metal band should do
Joey criou e dele a melhor versão. Não sei se usou trigger (o que nao quer dizer muita coisa também, pq mesmo que ajude um pouco a normalizar o volume tem que saber tocar e ter consistência pra poder funcionar)Joey e Eloy tocam bem demais, Jay infelizmente fica devendo
Eloy’s power technique and brutality might fit Slipknot’s future directions, but with all due respect, I REALLY FCKING LOVE JAY’S CREATIVITY AND GROOVE especially in the Album .5 The Gray Chapter. Honestly i prefer slipknot to go balance in groove, melody, and heaviness. I don’t like much of their songs in their early albums ‘cause for me theyre a bit too brutal and less melody and groove, but i love almost all of their songs in .5 TGC and We Are Not Your Kind
A do Joey não é drum cam e sim a faixa da bateria retirada da gravação em estudio. A unica compração é do Jay e do Eloy. Joey foi o criador das drum lines, ele nunca vai ser comparado! A lenda sempre será uma lenda.
Tudo bem,mas lembrado que a faixa do áudio do jay é pragamada de estúdio,então por mim o eloy e o melhor porque alem dele tocar tudo certinho ele coloca notas fantasmas e etc,mas tudo bem tu preferir o joey porque assim como vc tem o seu gosto eu tenho o meu também por isso eu respeito a sua decisão como eu fico com a minha❤
@DaviSilva-uo8zm I do prefer Jay and Joey over Eloy. Yeah ghost notes are cool, but that alone isn't gonna make my jaw drop. I gotta hear what he does in the studio. He's doing well live, no doubt. Just don't like how his kit sounds besides his bass drum.
Eloy does the 666 on the cymbals
I love that CYX-CYM-BAL. It's a simple but powerful detail.
That small detail can give a song more spike, powerful, Piss off feeling! I like that too!
So dope
Eloy trasmite poder y perfecta ejecución...las notas Fantasmas te vuelan la peluca 👏👏👏
ELOY IS INCOMPARABLE. INSANE
Jay es muchisimo mejor
Honest opinion, Eloy is going to revive Slipknot while doing proper justice to the past (Joey), bettering the present (Jay), and giving hope BACK to the future.
Dare I say… All Hope is NOT Gone? lol
In truth, Jay was a placeholder that overstayed his welcome. He’s a damn good drummer, but he never made Slipknot better. Joey always made whatever came next, at least, equal to what was before if not better. His versatility created such a unique sound and listening experience whereas Jay, you alwayssss felt like you’ve heard it before… Jay was certainly a lesser talented drummer than Joey, which is not a knock on Jay but the reality toward just how unique Joey was. Now that Eloy is here, he brings back the grove and power Slipknot has been missing for so long, elements to the drums that Jay NEVERRRR could create or even replicate.
Eloy is better!!!
We now know Jay was fired cause he can't even play the damn songs
Ótimo bateristas
Porém esse tipo de música não tem musicalidade nenhuma….
Desperdício de talento
Tanto pro finado Joey
Tanto pro Eloy
Hahaha tá bom senhor intelectual musical.
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Também acho. Com certeza o Eloy seria melhor aproveitado em uma roda e samba.🤡
@@cloudcamdrones ou no velório da sua mãe
@@JoaoPauloLudwig-ix3di Seria um velório foda! Se isso acontecer, me chame @cloudcamdrones. Deixamos o João de fora, pro cara não ser chato pra caralho!
JAY ARE YOU RUSHING OR ARE YOU DRAGGING?
Why do you supposed i just hurled a chair at your head Weinberg?
Jay: yes?
Ask your momma
thank you
😂😂😂
Eloy is just incredible
So is Ebola and I like them the same
Without a doubt, I can say that Eloy Casa Grande is the most technical drummer Slipknot has ever had
The fuck? Eloy is simply following. joey crafted these notes by himself and is clearly the better
@@dethkor_Li Joey is a legend, that will never change, and his legacy is in Eloy's hands just as it was in Jay's hands, what I mean is that Eloy masterfully plays other rhythms such as SAMBA, CUBAN SALSA, BRAZILIAN FORRO RHYTHM, SAMBA, other African rhythms, he has a vast repertoire of technical resources, which Joey didn't have, not because he wasn't a great drummer, but because ELOY HAD CONTACT WITH THE BEST TEACHERS IN BRAZIL SINCE HE WAS A CHILD, and South American musicians often don't have financial resources, they learn by intuition and that doesn't teach, if you have the natural gift
@@henriquefenrirlins3747yea right bro he was a rich gen z with TH-cam. How does he afford equipment at 12 years old. Latin afro crap doesn't belong in slipknot. Take that crap back to sepultura.
@@henriquefenrirlins3747so by your logic, Joey is above Eloy since he was raw talent and didn’t have guidance
It's not that Eloy is more genius than Joey. He's a genius too, but he's the only one who can execute the studio drums with almost perfection. Joey wrote the songs, but could not play them the same way (due to variations or getting tired). When Eloy tells his story, you can understand clearly that he practice a lot to play hours of a show without dropping a single beat.
Yes! thank you. This exactly. You can immediately tell who is who with live footage... and Eloy takes the lead any time.
In the last years yeah, but Joey nailed it live during the Iowa/subliminal eras.
Baterista depois dos 30 começa a sem cansar. Se você for pegar a história a fundo de Joey, a bateria não era seu unico instrumento, e mesmo assim o cara amassava. Depois da morte de Paul, você percebe o quanto Joey decai. O cara em 2008/2009 era coisa de outro mundo. Paul falece, vem diagnostico da sua doença. Pra "MIM" (opinião minha, aceita quem quiser), nunca havera um baterista como o Nathan Jonas Jordison. Sei que o Eloy teve uma vez que tocar num show com a sua perna fraca devido a uma operação na perna direita. Mas tocar no Knofest USA 2012 pra milhares de pessoa lutando contra a doneça até o final, aquilo me lembra exatamente quando Senna ganhou o GP do Brasil com carro com problemas mecanicos no câmbio, desistir não era uma opção. Assim como Senna sai carregado, Joey tbm sai, pois ambos faziam o que amavam e davam tudo de si. Sem mais.
Joey was able to do it til around 09
You aware of the illness Joey had?? Couldnt care less about Eloy or Jay, Jordison wrote and invented a way of drumming by playing a mixture of NuMetal/BlackMetal, he made it popular. Joey could still play those songs flawlessly until he got sick... Discusting comment, anything to say "ElOy Is ThE beSt"
Na verdade o Eloy respeita tudo que o grande Joey nos deixou! Por tanto, o Eloy sempre faz da sua maneira mas sempre respeitando o grande trabalho do grande Joey...
Saúdo a todos desde o Brasil.
Jay :- filling the shoes and he did a good job
Eloy :- showing how much talented he is
Joey :- but with joey every beat was an emotion
not even a question.
with Joey every note was like handed from metal heavens, like IDEAL, every move so natural and at the same time predetermined and not predetermined, like he actualy was master of notes, he could add and take any note, and it sounded like it was NATURAL, not even the slightest odd, and at the same time unpredictable, raw, and even broken and somehow fuking logical and natural... how ... maybe he was not human...
Jay deu aquela enrolada, teve q improvisar e muito puxado KKK
First audio is from "Only Drums" channel, Who assembled this in EzDrummer3, please use ORIGINAL audio next time
jay just ignored the tempo, trigers n bad double pedal n couldnt hold it for long
Jay peida no pedal duplo de longa duração
Sim, só toca bem as mscs dele. Nass do Joey improvisa demais
😂😂😂
Mano perna dele é mto fina guenta nao
Eloy has no comparison within the style. Much respect to the eternal Joey but Eloy is a brick in the head. Brutality machine
1:38 i hate that he replaces the double bass for weak ass drum rolls. Dude couldn’t keep up. Jay wasn’t the best for slipknot. He never showed anything new, he always sounded like a replacement. F
3:12 That double bass he adds in the middle 🔥
Right W T F
ELOY “THE DOCTOR” CASAGRANDE….BRUTAL INSANE 😮😮😮
So every comments on here is made by hispanic people, being completly bias by nationality, Joey invented those songs and is actually a legend. Eloy replaced Igor Cavalera and after he replace Joey Jordison, great talent indeed...
How's that? Brazilians arent hispanic... lmao
Eloy didnt invent nothing.
Brazilian are not hispanic! Go study geograph
learn about countries and nationalities before you leave a comment like this embarrassing yourself
Nope. It's pretty unanimous: Eloy is the total package.
Cool video comparison... Eloy takes the lead ANYTIME on live performances, the dude is just a perfect drum beast. But I'm not sure if that is actually Joey's original audio... plus, to be a good comparison, at least all audio of the three, should be live footage... not studio or not even that...
O áudio do joey não é original mn,e programado da pra saber só ouvindo ele tocando ,mas o que impressiona é o eloy tocando tudo certinho colocando notas fantasmas,esse é fera pra mim o melhor baterista do mundo ,não a ninguém que nem ele,ele é o cara
thats correct, this guy who put this lame comparassion doesnt know shit.
Joey will always be incredible for the parts he created. He did not hit hard but was so smooth and effortless flying around the kit. The power AND precision that Eloy plays with is staggering. He’s taking these iconic parts to the stratosphere and giving this band an enormous lift. I hope they let him have creative input on the new album. I think he can push them.
Yeah he didnt hit hard 🤣
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You say what?
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Joey is an artist Eloy is only a performer.
Joey looks effortless tho. He always looks steady but headbangs a lot in intense parts.
Eloy leva o estúdio para o palco ✅
Eloy reminds me of Igor Cavalera back in his prime in 96.
Watch Sepultura's performance at Pink Pop that year. Igor f**ked around, you'll find out. He spent time training with the Gracie family, of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and MMA fame, who can also be seen in the video Attitude.
Under pale grey sky we shall Arise...
Joey forever
Joey fucking best. RIP LEGEND
É comparar ser humano com suoer herói. Difícil.... advinha quem é o Hulk com a precisão do Super Man e a velocidade do Flash? 😅😂
So sick of the fanboys downing Eloy. Lol I was pissed off as well when Jay was fired, however... Eloy is doing things behind the kit that no Slipknot drummer has done during a live show in a long, long time. YES Joey wrote the parts, YES Joey was a HUGE creative driving factor in Slipknot, YES Joey was insanely talented. But in the majority of Slipknot performances, you'll find that he uses a lot of off-track fills to take up space and 'cheat' the parts he played in the studio. Not to mention, Joey played sh*t FAST during a lot of their live performances. Sorry, but Jay can't even be in this conversation. The FACT in this matter remains that Eloy Casagrande consistently delivers the precise performance that these songs demand. Anyone that tries to downplay what he's doing or take anything at all away from his performances clearly knows nothing about drums, let alone music.
The point of off-track fills to cheat during live shows is an important point that isn't discussed enough tbh
Jay over relied on this technique to the point it kind of made the songs boring (particularly those with blast beat sections).
While it's painful to admit with the loss of Joey, Eloy is the best drummer on a technical level they've ever had.
It isn't that Joey is necessarily "worse" than Eloy, but, there's just such a difference in the way they both trained and practiced. Eloy comes from a place of training and studying more like a classical musician would for percussion and it's extremely evident in his playing and technicality.
I think you’re mistaken…. Slipknot will never make songs like the ones we know and love again. Slipknot is slowly turning into a cover band at this point. At the end of the day both Eloy and Jay are/were just covering Joey’s parts. And being that Joey was the one who made the parts, he could improvise any way he wanted to on stage. Sometimes raw and crazy imperfect drums is better than super technical and perfect. Keith Moon would be another example of that
I just saw them live for my 9th time at the 25th anniversary show. Joey is goat. I have HELLA respect for Jay and a sour taste about how they dropped him. But Eloy..... Eloy is built different. I haven't heard Slipknot drums sound like that in almost 20 years. I saw them for their 99' debut and now in their 24' lineup. It was a WHOLE NEW show.
Joey: Trigger
Jay: bru bru bdlu bludll bu bru blu
Eloy: metraladora humana - no triggers
Joey mesmo com triggers era muito bom, alias, se o batera não é bom os triggers amplificam isso, fica meio embolado, tipo alguém aí do vídeo kkkk
e sim, Eloy é de longe o batera mais limpo que já ouvi, acho que ele e o El Estepario são os bateras mais limpos da atualidade.
@@rogergermanodejesus estepario n é limpo n mano.
Ele usa a pele da caixa esticada ao máximo para usar aquelas técnicas. Veja ele ao vivo aí sim vc verá se ele é limpo ou n
Limpo é> eloy, aquiles, dave grohl, bill ward( no auge), John lira, dave weckl.. esses são aguns que lembro.
@@rogergermanodejesuscreio que joey era limpo só no studio, por que no ao vivo também era cansado demais, não tem como
@@lucasandrey2534 sim, tinha isso, no DVD Disasterpiece, nas ultimas musicas ele tava morto kkkkk
O Joey era um gênio na criatividade, mas convenhamos que ao vivo também errava pra kct nos tempos haha
No wonder jay got fired. His style doesn’t fit slipknot. He a good drummer just doesn’t fit
I saw them in a similar intimate setting in 1998 at Club Oz in Killeen Texas. I had never heard of them and they actually were the openers with Machine Head headlining and Coal Chambers in the middle. As a drummer myself and musician- I was blown away by their opening performance. And I wasn't the only one, because when Coal Chambers took the stage- the only thing you could hear were chants of "Slipknot". I felt bad for Coal Chambers. Slipknot mingled and drank amongst the crowd the rest of the show. It was wild. A year later Im in California laying on the couch watching the Box (a music video station channel) and wait and bleed video starts and I hop up and am like wtf they fucking made it and I saw them in a shit hole club. And the only reason I was at that show is because I was asked to DD my friends and so they paid for my ticket
Jay lacks the finesse and groove, he just starts blasting on everything instead of actually feeling it out and adding nuance and flow. Jay was a cheap clone. Eloy is a drummer.
Joey é lenda por ter criado o som, Eloy é um monstro por ter conseguido elevar ainda mais o som do Joey. Pra mim o melhor é o Eloy, e tô falando de técnica, pra comparar em quesito de composição no Slipknot vamos ter que aguardar as músicas que virão. Jay é muito bom mas ele preencheu a parte do pedal duplo com fill pq n aguenta tocar ela toda, a real é essa. Joey é lenda, Eloy é gênio (Futura lenda, FATO). É simples assim.
Pois é, também tô só esperando sair as músicas novas pra entrar mais no hype kkk hoje provavelmente o Eloy é o melhor, melhor que os outros dois, e da mesma maneira ainda vai aparecer alguém melhor do que o Eloy, e assim por diante kkk o pessoal se apega demais e ignora a realidade
That Joey track isn't the original at all, that's all midi...
My favorit is joey
Eloy doesn’t take a break during the double bass parts like Jay does. Its ok to be creative but it prefer sticking to originality
It's very satisfying to see Eloy playing. Lots of technique, a different groove and lots of creativity. The small variations he made seem to fit the songs even better. The final part of the video shows this clearly.
Jay.
Deixa a nacionalidade de lado
O audio do Joey é de bateria programada e vc só quis usar de exemplo né?
Pq cê poderia ter colocado o video dele tocando ao vivo do DVD
Tá escrito que o áudio é original cara, o som da bateria tá isolado, eu acho!
@@MrSpectr0É programado, mas tá tudo corretamente programado, eu já ouvi esses sons nesses programas antes
Quem dera se fosse o original, acho que de músicas do Iowa não tem as multitracks disponíveis na internet, seria foda ouvir o som real
@@MrSpectr0 Não é original. É programado. Não é o mesmo som de batera e o Iowa foi gravado com o ROSS que JAMAIS usaria TRIGGER desta forma.
Joey had an *amazing* sound, Eloy keeps time like an atomic clock, and Jay is really really good but sounds sloppy in comparison
Tem nem comparação, Jay não consegue 10 segundos de pedal duplo e mete uma miguelagem (leia-se: virada nada a ver) pra preencher o que deveria ser tempos de pedal duplo 😂
Eloy said in a interview that on the first rehearsal he started playing Joey's parts note by note, and Clown told him that he wasn't hired because he can play those parts perfectly just like studio, but because of the energy he brings and the band feeds of.
Lol no one can beat the original 🔥🔥🔥
Joey all the way 🤟
Sem a nacionalidade ,eu digo que o eloy já venceu o jay e por mim ele é o melhor
Eloy muito melhor , sem comparação!
I miss Joey. Jay was great. it took balls to be the first the fill Joey's shoes. Eloy will raise the bar.
Nice video
Eloy = best drummer of the fuck### world
Ehh, he's great yeah. But the best? No. I'd argue most Extreme Metal drummers could drum circles around Eloy.
@@VileSinner666 Yeah, just imagine what Eloy could do using all the electronics that these Extreme Metal drummers use
@bituos Depends on the drummer. Look at Gene Hoglan. Dude doesn't use electronics and he drums circles around Eloy. Inferno from Behemoth, only triggers his bass drums. Everything else is him. If Eloy were to play Extreme Metal, I'd bet he'd definitely trigger his bass drums. Good argument though.
Joey create this insane shit! And Jay does a incredible work! But Eloy its a motherfucker badass and will do the most insane work with Slipknot.
Na F1 a diferença é d milésimos de segundos....
É exatamente a diferença dos 3... Os 3 são mto bons... porém o Eloy deva ser o melhor no geral!
Eloy é muito melhor!
@Stefanoski88 The fact that i never stated that, tells me a lot about your reading comprehension.
Either way.. just list me 5 drummers. Educate me. Im really curious.
you can see that JOEY JORDISON doesn’t even look like he’s trying and exaggerating. His movements and precision is just RELAXED YET DAMN! GOOD AND EFFORTLESS. JOEY JORDISON has inspired almost all drummers today maybe includes jay and eloy 😂 and he made “SLIPKNOT” and what/where they are now.
📌JAY is trying to copy JOEY and ELOY has his own technique but it is not sound of slipknot and its getting exaggerating and trying hard and hurrying as if chasing someone. 😂
JOEY JORDISON is irreplaceable
NO (1)one can replace the #1
END~~
Jay running running running
With all the respect that all of them deserves, here it is my 2 cents as a metal drummer:
Eloy is the most technical.
Eloy and Joey are very good to put the music and creativity in first place.
Joey and Eloy play drums with character, with emotion that is palpable even without seeing them, just listening.
Joey created so much new drum parts across the years and didn't see Jay bringing the same stuff into the table and we are yet to see what Eloy will bring (composition).
i think something ppl should also keep in mind is. with no joey there would be no eloy. joey gave a barrier for eloy to break. (also u cant really compare the studio to a live version bc ur going to play in each situation differnt)
edit: also forgot to say that joey is prob a big reason eloy and alot of other drummers around the world are where they are today.
2:40 uat the heck was he playing lol
Three great drummers with different playing styles. The songs are perfect with either of them playing. No need for comparison to say which is the best. It's just a matter of particular taste.
Is there no comparison? Jay is an excellent drummer but there is no comparison to Eloy for Slipknot's style. Much respect to Joey but Eloy is a beast with drumsticks
@@marcelprestes3842Yes bro, there is no comparison within them, as the guy said, it's 3 particular different playing styles. Even Joey didn't play everything accurate to the studio live.
It's a matter of taste, you can't speak for everyone. As a fan i like both, considering the particular band cycles they were.
@@marcelprestes3842One thing i want to ask as well, we are comparing the guys as drummers or as SLIPKNOT drummers?
If it's just drummers (refering to technique), Eloy wins, period.
@@jonaswanyk.0685 he wins anyway
People who say you can’t compare these drummers just don’t want to admit that Jay is the worst and Eloy is far better than even Joey.
Eloy harmonizes with the drums. Amazing!
I understand the hype around Eloy, he is incredible, but people seems to suffer of lack of memory because...... JOEY just begun ALL this stuff. He always will be the best❤🎉
Get a life and stop living in the past. Joey will always be a legend…
but the future is Eloy.
Eloy is good but overhyped.
@@duckmonster921 Eloy is a rare occasion that he is actually every bit as good as the hype is…
Eloy en Slipknot es la version de Joey en estudio+ghost notes🤘😮👍 increible
So outta 9 guys 5 have talents and the others are just clowns or stage props. Whatever works right.
Eloy Casagrande nos representa, orgulho brasileiro \m/
Jay cheats in double bass parts.
What do you talking about?
@@fadilakbar8607 If you were a drummer and played double bass drums, you would understand.
@@fadilakbar8607 I'll try to explain it to you.
eloy's double bass drum parts:
tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu
Jay's double bass drum parts:
tu tutu tu tu tutu tu tu tu tutu
@@gilsobra it's just because of his feet
@@fadilakbar8607 It's more than just the feet, it's years of practice. Great drummers can't maintain that consistency and precision with pressure.
Jay is so weak for Slipknot omg
Não sei se estou viajando, mas o Jay acelera muito.
Não está mn,ele realmente acelera muito ,e embola muito o pedal duplo dele 😂
Joey came up with these parts himself
For me I say who’s the best .for those people are equal to be fair but Eloy is another level his king for ranking 1st Joey second jay 😊
La batería nació para Joey Jordison ❤❤❤
I'm still Jay's fanboy
Slipknot miss joey since he left. He was insanely creative...Elroy is a beast but I don't like his brutal way of drumming.
then go listen to the jonas brothers bruh
rip joey ur the original
Their name all end with a Y
Esa no es la batería original de Joey.
Joey era foda demais ,harmonia pura
I wonder where you got the clean recording of Joey Jordison's drums?
its not actually joey lol. search up on youtube “heretic anthem drums only” and youll find videos with that audio. its a midi recording
Jay was always struggling in double bass parts and always masking it with millions of drum rolls
Jay is fast making me stunned amaze, slipknot just more like dream theater with jay
Eloy is powerful making me do more head banging like metal band should do
Joey is original music builder, and it's the best
O áudio da batida do Joey é programada ,ele é de estúdio então fica só entre o jay e o eloy ,então o eloy venceu.simples assim
@@DaviSilva-uo8zmeloy wouldnt have this job if it wasnt for joey. so joey won
Não existe jamais alguém vai vencer Joey is THE best ❤
Es igual la dificultad de bombo 2 pedal, que 2 bombos con 1 pedal cada uno?
Eloy my love ❤🥰😍😘❤🎉🥁🥁💋💋💋
Coitado do Jay kkkkkkkkkkkk Slip fez bem em se livrar
Jay was a cheater haha
Eloy!
Eloy e incomparável
Joey criou e dele a melhor versão. Não sei se usou trigger (o que nao quer dizer muita coisa também, pq mesmo que ajude um pouco a normalizar o volume tem que saber tocar e ter consistência pra poder funcionar)Joey e Eloy tocam bem demais, Jay infelizmente fica devendo
No he didnt use triggers.
ух вот это удары у джоуи на 1:05,да и элой тоже не отстаёт
Joey - beast
Jay - cool drummer
Eloy - damn machine
Eloy’s power technique and brutality might fit Slipknot’s future directions, but with all due respect, I REALLY FCKING LOVE JAY’S CREATIVITY AND GROOVE especially in the Album .5 The Gray Chapter. Honestly i prefer slipknot to go balance in groove, melody, and heaviness. I don’t like much of their songs in their early albums ‘cause for me theyre a bit too brutal and less melody and groove, but i love almost all of their songs in .5 TGC and We Are Not Your Kind
почему у элой касагранде номер 25 на рукаве?
Because is the Slipknot's 25th anniversary
Jay is just Incredible, Fast Fast Fast
Eloy > Joey > Jay
A do Joey não é drum cam e sim a faixa da bateria retirada da gravação em estudio. A unica compração é do Jay e do Eloy. Joey foi o criador das drum lines, ele nunca vai ser comparado! A lenda sempre será uma lenda.
Desapega, desapega, OLX!
@@bituos ? Tá drogado?
A bateria: TIRA QUE EU VOU CAGAR!!!
Eloy Casagrande é outro nível 🔥🔨🔨
O que torna o Joey mais foda , na minha humilde opinião, é pq ele fez tudo isso primeiro, ele quem criou.
In these clips, I'll say Joey, then Eloy, then Jay. I've heard Jay kill it perfectly before. But this wasn't super good from him.
Tudo bem,mas lembrado que a faixa do áudio do jay é pragamada de estúdio,então por mim o eloy e o melhor porque alem dele tocar tudo certinho ele coloca notas fantasmas e etc,mas tudo bem tu preferir o joey porque assim como vc tem o seu gosto eu tenho o meu também por isso eu respeito a sua decisão como eu fico com a minha❤
@DaviSilva-uo8zm I do prefer Jay and Joey over Eloy. Yeah ghost notes are cool, but that alone isn't gonna make my jaw drop. I gotta hear what he does in the studio. He's doing well live, no doubt. Just don't like how his kit sounds besides his bass drum.
Triggers x triggers x skill