@@gbaby4rb64 I thought the new 10 Spd trans in the GM Hd trucks arent really Allison made and its a version of 10R thats used in the Ford SDs. Didnt think there was a 9spd Allison at all.
If you have the money to buy one of these the last thing on your mind should be worrying about fuel economy. Don't buy one if you are trying to be a hyper miler...its a truck, built to do truck things, its not a Prius. Don't even look at one if you will whine about fuel economy. In the real world you might see 15-18mpg on the highway LOL.
@@benjaminlibertarianscorpio Yep! 100% agreed. Im just more excited for the big boy Wagoneer with extended wheelbase that will compete with the Cadillac Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L for cargo space.
In the real world you will never be able to. Unless you are the only occupant and you have a perfect 1000lbs of tongue weight. Any more and you will be over the GVW. It truly is no different than any other 1500 series truck. You always exceed GVW before hitting max towing. Now don't get me wrong I wouldn't hesitate to tow a flat bed with a bobcat weighing that much. But I would never tow a 10,000lb house trailer that big with this or any other 1500 series.
Especially with the predicted reliability based on ALL JEEP CHRYSLER STELANTIS PRODUCT HISTORY! If they had lifetime warranty on everything then maybe, but unless you just have the nostalgia bug, I just can't justify 80k-110k. I know the wagoneer starts at 50k but who really wants a base wagoneer!
My dad bought a ‘72 Wagoneer through a military program when we moved from Italy to an AF base in eastern Washington state. I was one at the time of the move but we had the vehicle for a few years and I can still remember driving through the property we owned off base doing vermin control. We leased property out to some rancher that grazed cows out there. My mom especially missed that “car” when we got transferred to CA and my dad didn’t think we still needed it. It made such an imprint on me, have always wanted a white Wagoneer.
Just tell me how good the sustained downhill transmission braking is when towing, along with payload and wheelbase. Tow rating doesn't matter if other elements don't support it.
You should ask him if they've improved on the horrendous quality of Jeep products with these or did they just slap extra lipstick on their newest pig and put $100k price tag on it..
10,000lbs towing capacity is really great but the 1,000lbs Payload makes that 10,000lbs towing capacity pointless especially for a family of 4 wanting to pull a travel trailer.
Drives me nuts how manufacturers do that! Same with the new tundra, 12000lb towing capacity but the most payload available is 1900lb which you will be lucky to find on most tundra trims. Why is to so hard to get decent payload capacity?
I'd be careful with the multiple references to "premium American craftsmanship." Yes, he has to justify the $100K price tag. But the reality of the brand's track record is significantly less inspiring.....and I say that as the past owner of two XJ Cherokees, a Wrangler and an original Grand Wagoneer. I also would point to the questionable image of the average dealer, who is simply not up to speed on catering to the clientele that can afford this class of vehicle.
Too much Fiat/Chrysler/Dodge crappy engineering….. it’s not a brand it’s a model. Marketing folks appear to have such low IQ’s. Why are these the most troublesome lowest longevity vehicles? You couldn’t pay me to own a Fiat/Jeep/Dodge/Ram. Too funny, they can’t engineer and build a reliable transmission and had to go to Toyota (AISIN). Best to just purchase a Toyota Sequoia or Lexus LX600
Not True guys. I have a 2022 Wagoneer II that can l tow up too 1000lbs. Why because you are not making available the electric trailer brake switch. I brought a 70,000 paper weight.
They say "dual exhaust," but it ISN'T. They run the exhaust into a single pipe, then split it at the tail. Nothing more than looks. Defeats the purpose.
It may have good bones but that doesn't mean it isn't going to be junk like a lot of FCA products. They usually have a lot of electrical gremlins. I don't see how people can afford 100K vehicles with the way the economy is going. Is it going to be built in Mexico along with the HD trucks?
The vibration canceler is to save them from having a heavy flywheel and for cylinder deactivation, and a cheap way to deal with bad NVH. It does not work for off road terrain. By the time you roll over a rock, it will be too late to vibrate it away. 9:00
That’s a question I keep asking myself. And, I think it was another route because the Ike was shrunk down to 1 lane and lots of traffic because of road work.
They should use the Power Wagon frame and axle setup, under the Ram banner, shorten the length and bring back the RAM Charger SUV. Solid axle front and rear with lockers and winch. And market it to the off road crowd and try to keep prices somewhat reasonable.
yes look at the org Cherokee was based off the sj 1974-83 basic 2/4 dr rubber floor mats vinyl seats independent rear suspension sucks ' oh we want a comfy ride leg room for the 3rd row seat' who goes off roading 7-9 people in a 3row suv off roading
If Jeep Makes the Wagoneer longer than Suburban...im gonna be there number one fan!!! I mean come on Mr Jim Morrison!!! If the wagoneer is bigger than the regular Escalade You Have To Make in Longer than the ESV Escalade ( Go Big or Go Home)...😍😍😍
Hate box frames. Mud and dirt gets stuck inside the rails rusting through inside out. I prefer a thick C section frame to prevent that to happen, even if it has many disadvantages as less stiff.
I would love to hook this up to my 30 ft airstream international and put six people inside and go for a ride. Nothing out there to tow and COMFORTABLY carry 6 passengers. Can you say diesel option?
So despite the Grand Wagoneer having the 6.4 L Hemi engine, when you look at the payload capacity, the Wagoneer with the 5.7 L engine supplemented by four wheel electric motors has the superior payload capacity along with similar towing ratings. The smaller engine also is reported to provide a 2 mpg improvement in gas mileage. So strictly from a towing standpoint, they have similar tow rating , but which will do a better job towing a 7500 lb trailer with a fully loaded vehicle??
Anyone notice the exhaust? No giant mid muffler. The catalytic converters are also resonators, and there are 2 small resonators/mufflers at the back. Wonder what it would sound like minus just rear resonators/mufflers.
Those original Grand Wagoneers were such steaming piles compared to Suburbans of the day. From the power train, to the HVAC, and interiors. Everything. AMC 🤮
Says, you. The buying public is saying differently. People shell out huge piles of cash for refurbished Grand Wagoneers. Lastly, the suburban interior didn’t even come close to a Grand Wagoneer. In fact, the interiors of suburban are just now getting close to a Grand Wagoneer of the late 80’s and early 90’s. 80’s and 90’s suburban were a sea of cheap plastic that faded daily in the sun and the thin threadbare carpet looked like it should be in bass boat or pontoon boat.
Payload capacity??????? 7 passenger towing a 10,000 lbs trailer. Never!!!!!!!! He’s not lying but he’s hiding what’s the most important issue. 7 people in that vehicle will max out its payload capacity.
Imagine regular people buying this 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Anyone else just want a truck that can tow 10000lbs And not a luxury yacht on wheels with the monthly payments to match. Even Broncos going for 70k. Who has money for these things?
Modern diesels (esp emissions components) do well on work trucks. Unless they work hard, they will suffocate the system with soot. For SUV it wouldnt be the right engine.
Isolationist bastards. Original Jeep’s were not made for use in USA. My 2021 grand Cherokee trailhawk will be my last jeep. 4.5 years, I’ll buy a Mercedes or bmw. Better quality, and more luxury for the same price. USA market is not the only one out there.
1,450 payload capacity? Give me a break. You could maybe tow a 10,000 lbs trailer is a 10 year old child is driving only. Warranty and insurance are null and void if you exceed the limit. Do your own research.
Cylinder deactivation has been on this engine since it came out and there have been no problems with it. And the new durango is supposed to be based on this chassis which will be the lower end version.
We have a 392, 2023 grand Cherokee L and Maserati SUV in our driveway. Even Had a vintage Grand Wagoneer for years I should have never sold. . The new wagoneer side window shape is a nonstarter. Bad design.
After owning for a few day plenty of things I don’t like if I park close to curb with my series 3 grand wagoneer the steps will hit curb my ram 3500 phone holder is better and can’t raise 3rd row if second row all the way back. Back to the drawing board jeep
bad design , really expected more , look like a money pit on wheels chevy tried 4 6 8 cylinder game too was big fail . week transmission , so sad . the air springs really expensive and high failure rate
@@tylerwalk7699 The 5.7 wagoneer does have the E-torque. This 392 engine is stolen directly from the scat packs and SRT's which are not set up for E-torque which is why the grand wagoneer doesn't have it. Also the fact that it would be pretty much useless because this engine has more than enough power.
@@gasolinediesel972 10-4, guess I didn’t do too much research on the matter cause I’m not in the market for a while. At least til it comes back to planet earth
I have to admit that I wasn't impressed with the new Grand Wagoneer because I thought it was too soft for going off-road. Yep, that's different. Still curious on the payload, and would love to see those power numbers in the heavy duty trucks. Nicely done!
1360lbs to 1580lbs depending on options. Towing 10,000lbs in the real world will come down to a numbers game. It won't happen unless you ignore payload/GVW limits in moat real work scenarios.
Andre, how about asking some difficult questions like, what their plan is to improve reliability and quality control? Ram, Chrysler, Jeep has a horrible quality/reliability issues.
I've bought a Series III (be delivered in May or June 2022. They informed me I may not have the 10,000 . Man ! I'm surprised !!!! Hey I want to 10,000 lbs towing no less guys at Jeep !!!! FranK (from Québec City) .
I'm old enough to remember vividly when Chrysler/Dodge meant the absolute worst of the Big 3. You'd look under their products and find the cheapest of everything; cost-cutting everywhere. Since Fiat bought them in 2010, that has slowly started changing for the better. First the ZF transmission, one of the best in the world, started showing up. That would NEVER have happened with the old Chrysler. Then Brembo, Bosch, Multi-Air engines, etc. When you look at the magnificent quality of the Wagoneer today, best of breed underneath, no cheapo cost-cutting, you are seeing the results from Fiat ownership. FCA was the best thing to ever happen to Chrysler in 50 years. Hopefully Stellantis will continue that transformation.
Something TFL trucks needs to investigate is all these new Jeep vehicles is great but the problem I have is we purchased a new 2020 Jeep Gladiator for $56,000 and had an issue with the front axle and they can't get parts so the warranty is no good if they can't supply parts to fix them and I am not the only Jeep owner that's having problems. Jeep needs to fix the parts issue!
Didn’t get above 15 mph while towing that horse trailer. That wheelbase, with that weight, would be beyond white knuckle towing experience at freeway speeds. Great looking suv, but I would never put that kind of weight behind it.
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Imagine a 2500 version of the wagoneer with a cummins/aisin combo.
That would be sick
It fits the attitude of the Excursion for sure. Just with better towing
That would be crazy considering you can’t even get a Ram 2500 with the Aisin transmission.
Even better Cummins and 9 speed Allison combo
@@gbaby4rb64 I thought the new 10 Spd trans in the GM Hd trucks arent really Allison made and its a version of 10R thats used in the Ford SDs. Didnt think there was a 9spd Allison at all.
Ask Jim when the heck is the ram 1500 392 coming!!! It needs to be done.
Andre is just such cool dude, I love it.
Bostondan; I met him at their offices and he was as nice in person as he seems.
I agree, Andre is awesome!
Remember in the beginning when he only spoke Russian and got little exposure? Who would have thought he would become a favorite.
If you have the money to buy one of these the last thing on your mind should be worrying about fuel economy. Don't buy one if you are trying to be a hyper miler...its a truck, built to do truck things, its not a Prius. Don't even look at one if you will whine about fuel economy. In the real world you might see 15-18mpg on the highway LOL.
This is great, but I’m waiting until 2023 for the “extra length” version that competes with Suburban and Expedition Max
The Jeep compares more to the Cadillac Escalade and Lincoln Navigator now
I mean that is what Fiat Chrysler is benchmarking
I think Ram brand should have the vehicle that competes with the suburban … Ram deserves a suv
@@benjaminlibertarianscorpio Yep! 100% agreed. Im just more excited for the big boy Wagoneer with extended wheelbase that will compete with the Cadillac Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L for cargo space.
I agree on the waiting for LWB and the eco diesel for me. Looking fwd to it!
Great looking American made Luxury! Thank you TFL and Wagoneer
For $100,000 I would be disappointed if it didn't tow 10,000 pounds.
In the real world you will never be able to. Unless you are the only occupant and you have a perfect 1000lbs of tongue weight. Any more and you will be over the GVW. It truly is no different than any other 1500 series truck. You always exceed GVW before hitting max towing.
Now don't get me wrong I wouldn't hesitate to tow a flat bed with a bobcat weighing that much. But I would never tow a 10,000lb house trailer that big with this or any other 1500 series.
@@geoffmooregm they come with the 6.4
i really wish that rear window went down.. that would make it a real winner and something not being offered in its class
Only full size that offers it is the sequoia but its not in the same league as this because its not a luxury suv so its really not comparable.
100k+ for a Jeep FIAT Grand wagoneer? It’s a gorgeous vehicle but Not worth Anywhere near that price tag! 😬
Especially with the predicted reliability based on ALL JEEP CHRYSLER STELANTIS PRODUCT HISTORY! If they had lifetime warranty on everything then maybe, but unless you just have the nostalgia bug, I just can't justify 80k-110k. I know the wagoneer starts at 50k but who really wants a base wagoneer!
Excellent interview, mine is on order, can’t wait!
It’s time for Andre to launch his own channel. He has risen to the top of the car reviewer game.
If the curb weight is 6420 lbs and the GVWR is 7780 lbs, if you are at the maximum payload of 1360 lb.
If you are at the maximum payload of 1360 lbs , will the Grand Wagoneer still be able to tow the maximum 9860 lbs?
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, If a woodchuck could chuck wood?
@@johnadkins3466 isn’t the regular wagoner the one that tows10k?
They all with the TFL I guess.
Beautiful vehicle. Now I just need to win the lotto to afford one
Dude I love my phone because I can enjoy watching TFL 😝
My dad bought a ‘72 Wagoneer through a military program when we moved from Italy to an AF base in eastern Washington state. I was one at the time of the move but we had the vehicle for a few years and I can still remember driving through the property we owned off base doing vermin control. We leased property out to some rancher that grazed cows out there. My mom especially missed that “car” when we got transferred to CA and my dad didn’t think we still needed it. It made such an imprint on me, have always wanted a white Wagoneer.
Just tell me how good the sustained downhill transmission braking is when towing, along with payload and wheelbase. Tow rating doesn't matter if other elements don't support it.
They conveniently leave that part out when the Jeep rep is in the car lol
Excellent... will look at as alternative when upgrading my expedition
I wish they would of had the Rear window roll down. Why aren’t more manufacturers doing that anymore.
Ask you momma
You should ask him if they've improved on the horrendous quality of Jeep products with these or did they just slap extra lipstick on their newest pig and put $100k price tag on it..
10,000lbs towing capacity is really great but the 1,000lbs Payload makes that 10,000lbs towing capacity pointless especially for a family of 4 wanting to pull a travel trailer.
Drives me nuts how manufacturers do that! Same with the new tundra, 12000lb towing capacity but the most payload available is 1900lb which you will be lucky to find on most tundra trims. Why is to so hard to get decent payload capacity?
Ram Charger Bronco killer.....Cmon man!!!!!!
I'd be careful with the multiple references to "premium American craftsmanship." Yes, he has to justify the $100K price tag. But the reality of the brand's track record is significantly less inspiring.....and I say that as the past owner of two XJ Cherokees, a Wrangler and an original Grand Wagoneer. I also would point to the questionable image of the average dealer, who is simply not up to speed on catering to the clientele that can afford this class of vehicle.
My 2005 Armada tows 10,000 lbs, for 300K+ trouble free miles. Great vehicle.
Love my armada I have yet to see a check engine light
Too much Fiat/Chrysler/Dodge crappy engineering….. it’s not a brand it’s a model. Marketing folks appear to have such low IQ’s. Why are these the most troublesome lowest longevity vehicles? You couldn’t pay me to own a Fiat/Jeep/Dodge/Ram. Too funny, they can’t engineer and build a reliable transmission and had to go to Toyota (AISIN). Best to just purchase a Toyota Sequoia or Lexus LX600
Love the sound of that big 8 cylinder
Not True guys. I have a 2022 Wagoneer II that can l tow up too 1000lbs. Why because you are not making available the electric trailer brake switch. I brought a 70,000 paper weight.
They say "dual exhaust," but it ISN'T. They run the exhaust into a single pipe, then split it at the tail. Nothing more than looks. Defeats the purpose.
what's the lifespan of the air spring set up? in salted and chemical winter areas?
$100k for a Stellantis product. A fool and his money.
openpilot driving the Grand Wagoneer hands-free could be sweet
It may have good bones but that doesn't mean it isn't going to be junk like a lot of FCA products. They usually have a lot of electrical gremlins. I don't see how people can afford 100K vehicles with the way the economy is going. Is it going to be built in Mexico along with the HD trucks?
real world 10 MPG is terrible. Shame on you Jeep
Will there be a utilitarian model that doesn't cost over $70k for us normal people?
Grand wagoneer starts at 80k. Regular WAGONEER with the 5.7 hemi starts at 50k a d goes up to 75k.
The vibration canceler is to save them from having a heavy flywheel and for cylinder deactivation, and a cheap way to deal with bad NVH. It does not work for off road terrain. By the time you roll over a rock, it will be too late to vibrate it away. 9:00
“The Grand Wagoneer is a great way to uh... to uh, keep up with the Jones’s.”
Soccer moms and mall crawler crowds should be happy they finally have a V8, 4 door, 4 wheel drive mini-van.
Wow, and Toyota discontinued Land Cruiser in USA.
Kudos to Jeep.
What a great vehicle!
Not even anywhere near the same size as a Grand Wagoneer, Escalade or Navigator
Let's see the macho Ramcharger version, hopefully with much better styling!
like it please offer a 2 row for us who have no need a 7-8 pass family car its just me and the dog
Lower the seat boom two row SUV
@@brentvance3958 etra wt to carry around for no reason im shopping for some thing else do like the hemi engine
When will the series 1 be available to build and price on the website, currently the entry level 2wd is $68k in Series II form...
This will overheat at the ike gaunlet.
That’s a question I keep asking myself. And, I think it was another route because the Ike was shrunk down to 1 lane and lots of traffic because of road work.
The air tanks should have been mounted in the rear of this vehicle, in the dead space between the hitch and cross member imo.
Andre is just such cool dude, I love it.
Hmm, new 392 for the Ram in the near future?
471 hp and 455 lb-ft in the half ton would be incredible. Especially if they put it in the lower trim level and pair it with the Wrangler 4xE system.
Jeep I see y'all this was a advertising I see y'all and TFL $$$$🤨
Andre acting like my kid 5:27
They should use the Power Wagon frame and axle setup, under the Ram banner, shorten the length and bring back the RAM Charger SUV. Solid axle front and rear with lockers and winch. And market it to the off road crowd and try to keep prices somewhat reasonable.
yes look at the org Cherokee was based off the sj 1974-83 basic 2/4 dr rubber floor mats vinyl seats independent rear suspension sucks ' oh we want a comfy ride leg room for the 3rd row seat' who goes off roading 7-9 people in a 3row suv off roading
Will less farkles, and no carpet.
Andre really loves towing 🤣
If Jeep Makes the Wagoneer longer than Suburban...im gonna be there number one fan!!! I mean come on Mr Jim Morrison!!! If the wagoneer is bigger than the regular Escalade You Have To Make in Longer than the ESV Escalade ( Go Big or Go Home)...😍😍😍
Over 100k and comes built in with dodges reliability/dependability.😂 All that tech is going to fail as it does with FCA.
being a mechanic, i wont be touching the 02 sensor that goes out in a year
Hate box frames. Mud and dirt gets stuck inside the rails rusting through inside out. I prefer a thick C section frame to prevent that to happen, even if it has many disadvantages as less stiff.
Tough to hear you from all the way back there in 1970
@@trevorj79 you still got some heavy duty trucks.
I would love to hook this up to my 30 ft airstream international and put six people inside and go for a ride. Nothing out there to tow and COMFORTABLY carry 6 passengers. Can you say diesel option?
So despite the Grand Wagoneer having the 6.4 L Hemi engine, when you look at the payload capacity, the Wagoneer with the 5.7 L engine supplemented by four wheel electric motors has the superior payload capacity along with similar towing ratings. The smaller engine also is reported to provide a 2 mpg improvement in gas mileage. So strictly from a towing standpoint, they have similar tow rating , but which will do a better job towing a 7500 lb trailer with a fully loaded vehicle??
Anyone notice the exhaust? No giant mid muffler. The catalytic converters are also resonators, and there are 2 small resonators/mufflers at the back. Wonder what it would sound like minus just rear resonators/mufflers.
Best interiors in any vehicle's
Any vehicle? Rolls Royce? Bentley? Range Rover SV? Mercedes-Maybach? I don't believe it...
Not even close
Put all of that in a Ram 2500 CC 4x4 for 2022 I’ll be on board. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍
Those original Grand Wagoneers were such steaming piles compared to Suburbans of the day. From the power train, to the HVAC, and interiors. Everything. AMC 🤮
But like jeeps of today they remained very desirable and nostalgic.
Says, you. The buying public is saying differently. People shell out huge piles of cash for refurbished Grand Wagoneers. Lastly, the suburban interior didn’t even come close to a Grand Wagoneer. In fact, the interiors of suburban are just now getting close to a Grand Wagoneer of the late 80’s and early 90’s. 80’s and 90’s suburban were a sea of cheap plastic that faded daily in the sun and the thin threadbare carpet looked like it should be in bass boat or pontoon boat.
Payload capacity???????
7 passenger towing a 10,000 lbs trailer. Never!!!!!!!!
He’s not lying but he’s hiding what’s the most important issue.
7 people in that vehicle will max out its payload capacity.
What’s the tank behind the rear tire on driver side
Imagine regular people buying this 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Anyone else just want a truck that can tow 10000lbs
And not a luxury yacht on wheels with the monthly payments to match.
Even Broncos going for 70k. Who has money for these things?
WHY IS DIESEL NOT AN OPTION ON THE WAGONEER AND GRAND WAGONEER?
Modern diesels (esp emissions components) do well on work trucks. Unless they work hard, they will suffocate the system with soot. For SUV it wouldnt be the right engine.
Isolationist bastards. Original Jeep’s were not made for use in USA. My 2021 grand Cherokee trailhawk will be my last jeep. 4.5 years, I’ll buy a Mercedes or bmw. Better quality, and more luxury for the same price. USA market is not the only one out there.
They should have opened the moonroof for the shoot. It would have given more light…
The frame look was very smart and useful. Nice marketing.
1,450 payload capacity?
Give me a break.
You could maybe tow a 10,000 lbs trailer is a 10 year old child is driving only.
Warranty and insurance are null and void if you exceed the limit.
Do your own research.
Took awhile but jeep and dodge have finally caught up to the rest of society.
Do a comparison to the Cadillac Escalade
I hope they make a dumb down version too much technology in this one. I was really liking it until you said cylinder deactivation 😔
Cylinder deactivation has been on this engine since it came out and there have been no problems with it. And the new durango is supposed to be based on this chassis which will be the lower end version.
Don't like the welded hitch. Gonna have to cut it out and re-weld to replace during a minor rear end collision.
We have a 392, 2023 grand Cherokee L and Maserati SUV in our driveway. Even Had a vintage Grand Wagoneer for years I should have never sold. . The new wagoneer side window shape is a nonstarter. Bad design.
Guest: for Texas customers it can be a gun safe too…
Andrey: uhhhh…
🤣😂
I swear to god, how can we “forget” about the 7k lb trailer if the Jeep PR rep keeps mentioning it ??
Camera angle was just too far forward for me to tell. Was this trailer connected via a load-distribution hitch?
After owning for a few day plenty of things I don’t like if I park close to curb with my series 3 grand wagoneer the steps will hit curb my ram 3500 phone holder is better and can’t raise 3rd row if second row all the way back. Back to the drawing board jeep
I wish Chrysler Corp was an independent American company again. It's shameful what corporate executives did to a great American company.
i hope jeep returns home....it's full of history and DNA
love the wood... lets put some on the outside....( we've had 10 wagoneers over the years.
Make a commercial how the safety features beat the competition and how many safety features it has
Why does he keep saying American? Is it because it's now a foreign company? Well its been for awhile but just saying.
bad design , really expected more , look like a money pit on wheels chevy tried 4 6 8 cylinder game too was big fail . week transmission , so sad . the air springs really expensive and high failure rate
This is nothing more than a promo for Jeep, nothing about how it actually drives just listening to this guy crap on about how great Jeep products are.
Imagine buying a 110k truck 🙄
All these car manufacturers need to claim down
I have a 2023. Has a 3L twin turbo. It moves.
Apparently thats what the ram is going with
You forgot to mention that motor is too tall for a pushrod
Sorry, but it's unlikely anyone is towing two horses with a grand wagoneer. That's just not the correct lifestyle fit
How much did you pay for the vehicle? Vv nice post. Thank you
That trailer is probably a 7000 lb gross weight rating. I bet it is empty weighing in at 2000-3000lbs.
dodge is trying to scam use with computer add on , bend over . LOL 23 speakers ha ha
Looooong video… kind of boring… cool SUV but more than 30 min video???
They've set the bar pretty high, will be very interested to see how the hybrid version compares in performance/towing :popcorn:
Kind of odd they don’t have the E-torque system on it already, but maybe there’s good reason for that, being as it’s not overly effective
@@tylerwalk7699 The 5.7 wagoneer does have the E-torque. This 392 engine is stolen directly from the scat packs and SRT's which are not set up for E-torque which is why the grand wagoneer doesn't have it. Also the fact that it would be pretty much useless because this engine has more than enough power.
@@gasolinediesel972 10-4, guess I didn’t do too much research on the matter cause I’m not in the market for a while. At least til it comes back to planet earth
It needs a solid rear axle made of steel with leaf springs for stability and carrying capacity
Ford Expeditions have a 33 gallon tank
I have to admit that I wasn't impressed with the new Grand Wagoneer because I thought it was too soft for going off-road. Yep, that's different. Still curious on the payload, and would love to see those power numbers in the heavy duty trucks. Nicely done!
How many do you really think are going to go off road in this. Not many. Hard core off road, zero.
1360lbs to 1580lbs depending on options. Towing 10,000lbs in the real world will come down to a numbers game. It won't happen unless you ignore payload/GVW limits in moat real work scenarios.
Take this channel to the next level.. fact check these marketing bullshitters
Is this only for horse trailers lol. Seems like that is all he mentioned towing
Andre, how about asking some difficult questions like, what their plan is to improve reliability and quality control? Ram, Chrysler, Jeep has a horrible quality/reliability issues.
I've bought a Series III (be delivered in May or June 2022. They informed me I may not have the 10,000 . Man ! I'm surprised !!!! Hey I want to 10,000 lbs towing no less guys at Jeep !!!! FranK (from Québec City) .
this review is really a crap 25 mph Sunday drive
The 1965 international travel all wagon is the best
I'm old enough to remember vividly when Chrysler/Dodge meant the absolute worst of the Big 3. You'd look under their products and find the cheapest of everything; cost-cutting everywhere. Since Fiat bought them in 2010, that has slowly started changing for the better. First the ZF transmission, one of the best in the world, started showing up. That would NEVER have happened with the old Chrysler. Then Brembo, Bosch, Multi-Air engines, etc. When you look at the magnificent quality of the Wagoneer today, best of breed underneath, no cheapo cost-cutting, you are seeing the results from Fiat ownership. FCA was the best thing to ever happen to Chrysler in 50 years. Hopefully Stellantis will continue that transformation.
Something TFL trucks needs to investigate is all these new Jeep vehicles is great but the problem I have is we purchased a new
2020 Jeep Gladiator for $56,000 and had an issue with the front axle and they can't get parts so the warranty is no good if they
can't supply parts to fix them and I am not the only Jeep owner that's having problems. Jeep needs to fix the parts issue!
Didn’t get above 15 mph while towing that horse trailer. That wheelbase, with that weight, would be beyond white knuckle towing experience at freeway speeds. Great looking suv, but I would never put that kind of weight behind it.