Prince William And Kate Face Protests In Jamaica | The View
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- "The View" panel reacts to Jamaican protesters calling on the crown to redefine their relationship with the island, the country, and make reparations for their colonial past.
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"They want to keep the fancy clothes but not the dirty laundry."
Well said Sara. 👏👏
Speak the truth
I like that saying 😎
Saoirse....Sara always have little gems. I love it.
Sara is right all Royalty around the world has stood on the backs of others. Slavery isn’t unique to only Blacks. Every civilization had slavery some cultures tortures their slaves as entertainment. Indigenous People should get their land back along with money. Stop accepting people from China just buying land here with their inflated currency. Chinese have no business here unless your family came during the farming boom. The new Chinese are so respectful to the land and history here.
No its a undereducated statement.
‘They want to keep the fancy clothes, but not own up to their dirty laundry’.
Powerful!
She hit it out of the park with that statement.
That was a bar.
Look at UK long history of #CANNIBALISM that is rumored to be still happening today. Human trafficking is just the tip of the iceberg
@@blanchedubwah268 oh look...a crazy person
@Sara Mill at least Meghan and Harry weren’t afraid to touch or hug black people or the poor. Look at the videos. Even in Africa William wouldn’t even dare. Kate was horrified and pulled away from the Jamaican woman trying to help her. Whose really the fake?
I’m glad that Whoopi pointed out to Sunny that Asian countries like India were also affected by this.
Indeed!
Yes, I am Indian and a dark skinned bald man. When I go out, I am considered suspicious and dangerous. The cops have been called on me many times for taking a walk in my neighborhood and even for just being in my front lawn after dark.
I am tired of the conversation always being white vs black. There are other ethnicities who are dealing with their own issues!!! It's not just black people who are being discriminated against!
Thank you Whoopi. Sunny is a typical black person who only talks about the black community and culture.
@MufarosButifulDawtrs It was the exact same kind of slavery. African Americans are not the only group that went through that, as much as it shocks Sunny and some other Americans. African Americans seem to get insulted when its pointed out they weren't' the only ones to go through that. It's quite sad.
@@os2958 yawn..... here we go
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy Indians are more respectful?? Indians are some of the most racist to black people and many uphold white supremacy, keep your conversation on your people and not mine.
"They wanna keep the fancy clothes but not the dirty laundry."
That was slick Sara. Well said.
Bumper car slogans trashing the Royal family who dedicate their lives to service and charity.
Not impressed at all but what would the Americans know, they held slaves for years after the British and Europeans stopped it.
so do Egyptians owe jews money too?
@@codywold The Jews that CONVERTED and who's family is from Europe NO!!! Ethiopians yes, North African Jews yes,, THEY are original jews that date back to the time of Pharoh, Not the Converts that stole African history and Palestinian land.. Learn your history.... Ivanka is NOW Jewish!!! see how conversion works?!!
You cannot have your DNA in Europe AND Africa at the same time, Converts have no shame!
@@guntherthumper1864 BINGO! EXACTLY!
@@codywold The Jews left Egypt with spoils and plundered the Egyptians.
Jamaicans stand up! ✊🏾🇯🇲 I'm so proud of the people of Jamaica. 💛🖤💚
And in their stance dem need fi dash weh the ideologies of their slave masters and get back to their roots and true culture#lineageofDavid#tribeofBenjamin
I'm from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹 and we stand with Jamaica on this stance. It takes guts to stand up to the big boys but that's how David took down Goliath.
@@eliclarke4014 .....that is to show the strength of the "5" that you claim. It certainly RUFFLED some feathers and has send A strong message. Do not lose sight of that. Even if "thousands" came out ,did you see ANY sign of jubilation? Keep quiet if you don't know people of other nations. Showing up with "quietness" does not mean they agree. You need to know MUCH more before you talk.
@@eliclarke4014 ......with all due respect, you don't exactly know what is going on. From the tone of your conversation you are really limited. You know nothing about COLONIZATION and IMPERIALISM and the depth of the hurt. Do your research and you will than know what really a "gwarn" according to you..... please do yourself a favor, be informed before you want to converse or debate on any subject. Those so- called " royals" want to and are delighted and jubilant wearing "fancy". outwardness BUT do not want to show and accept the DIRTY laundry. I forgive you since you are limited.
Yeah be proud of a country where homosexuals get murdered.
I’m so proud of Jamaicans for standing up to the Royals! I need the entire Caribbean to get on board.
They need to do what we in Barbados did last year and just be done with them all together!
Cry babies
Don't follow the media. Only 50 people in front of the British High Commission were protesting. A small handful. They got warm , hospitable reception. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Grow up and research your history, without slavery Jamaica and most of the Caribbean would be ............ Wait for it.... South American native Indian, with a few gringos throw in. 😀
@@daniellealleyne5101 China's new little toy. Barbados has a new master now - Beijing.
Thank you for including India in the conversation Whoopi! The way the British has made Africa and India a pariah is appalling and disgusting!
What are you talking about? Made them a Pariah how?
Yess 👏🏾
Yes, I am Indian and a dark skinned bald man. When I go out, I am considered suspicious and dangerous. The cops have been called on me many times for taking a walk in my neighborhood and even for just being in my front lawn after dark.
I am tired of the conversation always being white vs black. There are other ethnicities who are dealing with their own issues!!! It's not just black people who are being discriminated against!
They are Commonwealth citizens with all those rights and the British built hospitals, railways and schools for all in India.
The British working class lived in squalor.
Think about what you are talking about.
Compare that to what the Chinese are doing at the moment in Africa.
I love how they are having this conversation and this is true
1st Barbados and now Jamaica! I love it, so proud of my Caribbean brothers and sisters!
and Will ran away like the coward he is and only apologized because they threatened to pull out if he didn't address the issue
I am here for it! I am Jamaica and I support this. I’m so proud of my people.
Crown enslaved their own people, can’t let us figure out we the people are still not free. Every time people start to figure the history out things get twisted left or right.. it’s a misdirect from the top of the pyramids.
Which people is that Cristal? The Africans consider non-tribal Africans as Aku. A quarter each, White, Black, Indian, Chinese.. pure Jamaican? My experience working in West Africa, with Africans who are humble dignified people is they loath Afro-Caribbeans and especially African-Americans.
Birth of a republic
Proud of your people too!!
Kia Kaha from Britain colonised New Zealand!
@@kronicpain7357 England needs you more than you need them
Thank you Joy for remembering the ones who were anialated and lost their entire country , the Indians! Americas largest loss!
*Native Americans or Indigenous People's but 100%
In Jamaica there are no natives left! Total annihilation of the Arawak Indians!
@@camy3018 they are not annihilated, stop it
@@Prince_the_One please do your research.
Actually, they don’t know or refuse to acknowledge the first African slave owners in North America were the Spanish, who were in the americas before Europeans stepped foot in North America. The Spanish and Africans brought the first diseases and it killed thousands of Africans. They also took native Americans as slaves. Most of the slave trade went to south and Central America, not North America. So why aren’t they asking for reparations in south and Central America???? And the majority of Americans ancestors were not slave owners.
THANK YOU SUNNY FOR HAVING A SPINE AND TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AFRICANS THAT WERE ENSLAVED. IT ALRIGHT FOR US TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT US. EVERYTHING IS NOT COLORED....
whites were enslaved as well ffs
I'm with my people! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I'm proud of Jamaica 🇯🇲.
Proud african here and love Jamaica
Only 50 people were in that protest though. It FLOPPED. The Royal couple got alotta love from Jamaicans. Just look at the videos online. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@@misterlexx2721 Quitre the contrary. The PM publicly and openly stated that he plans to move on from the monarchy. A number of us are against them as heads of state. You got house slaves and sellouts like yourself of course, but the majority of us with pride and self respect want them to be pushed out. They do nothing for us, and you heard what Sunny legitimately said.
Return Jamaica to its rightful owners: the Caribs.
@@misterlexx2721 thank you for saying that.
Why not, Kate and William seem to work hard and we all can't do much against capitalism.
Love your culture and England is better for the relaxed nice dignified Jamaicans living there, we appreciate you very much. Our culture is not that great.
At least our music is OK and not all of us are racist.
Thank you Joy for mentioning Native Americans and how we haven't got any reparations for all the atrocities done to us the government hasn't even apologized or recognized the horror done to Native Americans.
How about the atrocities done to the British population when the 7 year olds were sent into a mine?
@@fbenbow2197we don't care f them
And what native Americans u talking bout
I kinda disagree you got reservations and casino now im sure there some tribes what didn't get anything but most of y'all have blended into white society
Thank you Whoopie for recognizing Indians. I am Caribbean born, with ancestors from India. You almost never hear any acknowledgement regarding Indians who were taken from their homeland and taken to the Caribbean.
As far as I know, quite a few people from India went to other countries to work on sugar plantations of their own accord, due to their own free will.
Slavery is a horror.
Twisting history is a crime.
@@fbenbow2197 yup the apprentiship system where cheap labour was sourced in the East Indies, slavery is a totally different ball game
They weren’t taken from their homeland. Like the Chinese the Indians were lied to and came over willingly thinking they were gonna have access to good labor, work conditions living etc. but when they came over they were nothing more than indentured servants working alongside the newly freed ex slaves.
Indians went as indentured servants. They were not captured, shackled, shipped across the Atlantic in filthy subhuman conditions, forced to work, beaten by slave masters, raped, starved demoralized, denied education...the list is long. I sincerely hope you now understand the difference.
We see you
Its going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. Kudos to Jamaica, they are such beautiful people and I wish them the best!!
No there not, history of homophobia and killings of lgbt people make them evil not nice
They need to follow us in Barbados 🇧🇧 and be done with them totally !!
@@delabbadi Homophobia is a by product of Christianity which was introduced by Europeans.
perhaps you go live there if you think they are so wonderful. perhaps you are attracted to a life of gang crime and gang rapes....lol
@@paulomilan515 I have friends who are Jamaican and I've also met some very nice Jamaicans while vacationing there. I'm very much aware of the crime there but you can't place everyone in the same basket with the bad ones!
Well, alright, Jamaica! I'm glad Whoopi broadened the conversation to include other countries of colour, like India, and that Sunny made a good point about the reparations being paid to the owners up until a few years ago. Sara and Joy hit it out of the park. This was a good conversation, even if it was only a few minutes.
Sunny is a racist
@@faithhudson4576 Tell someone who cares.
It wasn’t only countries of colour. Ireland is primarily white and probably had it worse than most other countries. Reparations are never going to happen. There is no point arguing for something that will never exist
@John Buckley The people of Ireland have nothing to do with black people who were enslaved they were Indentured servants not actually slaves and were not treated like animals let’s be real here…..reparation were to be paid to black people however Andrew Johnson put a stop to it when Lincoln was shot
@@mykoniichistorychannel OK racist
Colonization occurred in many countries and impacted many cultures.
Yes, I'm really glad Whoopi took a moment to point that out! Sunny as usual tried to dismiss it because she only speaks on issues that affect her or her people. In addition to Africa and the Caribbean, the Brits pillaged the natural resources of India and Sri Lanka for decades, not to mention what they did to the Indigenous populations of Canada and Australia.
@@deeshan9844 and Ireland
And what? It's ok
@@deeshan9844100% agree. I'm Sri Lankan and it wasn't just the Brits that colonized the island. Yes, Sunny only speaks for her people and forgets other cultures and countries that too suffered from slavery and colonization. I'm so happy Whoopi made that clear, as well as Joy bringing up the Indigenous community's sufferage in their own country, America.
colonisation and slavery have always existed where people exist. They existed in African and India long before europeans got there. In fact the British stopped slavery or tried in India (and the rest of the world, it stopped the transatlantic slave trade at huge expense) and the transatlantic slave trade actually stopped local African slavers from killing African men as they preferred women and children and not adult men who were hard to handle. 10% of the white Anglo Saxon population were slaves at the time of Domesday. Complex!
Finally! I appreciate this openness and courage towards the truth on national television!
Here’s a truth you’ll love- Whoopi only dated and married white men, and has a biracial child. Doesn’t that seem a little bit contradictory?🤷🏽♀️
@@saoirse4927 No!
So has a lot of black folks.
@@Michelle-jz8vl but a lot of other black folks aren’t on a national TV talk show Being derogatory. Btw her Daughters Father is from London 😳 should her daughter apologize? just wondering she’s half British 😏
Let's talk about the black on white murders going on in this country. Like those black girls who carjacked and murdered the 73 year old white woman...
Totally agree Sarah. First peoples annihilation, African slavery, Asian indentureship etc. are all part of colonial history in the Caribbean, so adoration of the royals is quite a weird thing. Countries like Haiti were paying back their colonial masters well into the 1940s for plantation money “lost” due to the island gaining independence…
Sonny needs to explain says Puerto Rico is already billion dollars in debt for pension plan how can I play their people pension but they don't have any money 70 billion dollars index of people could they couldn't pay the bills so how did America banquet Puerto Rico we should never include them as a state
@@baileysmooth97 America actively sabotages other countries you are blind
And it wasn't really much better for the lowest rung of society in Britain
Indentureship was not good but it wasn't slavery...slaves had no choice.... East Indians were encouraged howbeit tricked into coming to the west Indies for a "better life" and paid very little, next to nothing wages....but some of them came with their families. And at the end of indentureship were given land... slaves were treated worst than the animals. Literally.
@Bailey Smooth please look into the history of Puerto Rico and how it came to be a US territory. Then you might understand why she said what she said.
Proud to be 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲n
Same 🇯🇲🇨🇦
Fyah pon dem!!!!
But we need that 💲💲. You know how much money that blasted empire made off our people. Smh. 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Always! 🇯🇲🇯🇲
Eli Clarke can't count. Hahaha
Sunny’s point about the loans and that black Britons are paying them back is… eye-opening!
She understood the assignment.
Please look up the definition of eye opening. That’s something we as black people already knew about. It was WHOOPIE who understood what the topic of conversation was. Sunny just made it about herself as always
Her comment was bloody stupid.
British poor pay taxes for sins their poor ancestors were not responsible for.
She however is pointing fingers at people who established a society her parents fled to.
I dislike hypocrites.
Including myself and everyone.
@@fbenbow2197 But paying taxes for the slavery of your people is uniquely disturbing, egregious, and an especially immoral reality. There isn’t an equivalent to it, in my opinion.
She had ancestors who are slaves.
Joy summed it up nicely 👏👏👏
At 5:39 Yes Lindsey Granger; African people are here to thrive!! There's beauty in that. African people are beautiful 👏
Keep it going 💯
😂😂😂 Who is that lady?
She don’t wanna tell her daughter that the country she was born in victimizes her everyday. But society is gonna do it whether she wants to acknowledge it or not. So why not give your kid the tools she needs to thrive AND hold your country accountable? 🙄Like can’t you walk and chew gum at the same time?
Victimizes? she's paid a small fortune for basically doing not doing much
She's just another sellout being 'paid a small fortune' like the one above me said to sell out the rest of us.
@@peterporkeresq.2817 Sell out how?, different opinion so sellout...ok
I think she wants to teach her daughter not to have a victim mentality so that she can thrive and move forward in life giving it her all. Why constrain yourself to the box of a victim, then you will live your whole life in that box and always expect people to attack you/hurt you, and you don’t even try. I love her message of black excellence and not being a victim 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@rickd438
Yeah, C o ondice Owens has a difference of opinion on most issues too ...
Thank You whoopi for acknowledging India 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you Whoopie for correcting abs including India in the conversation. So important. 🙏🏼
🙄It was unnecessary. The topic was about Jamaicans. Talking about Jamaica doesn’t ignore India. It’s a separate topic.
You want to talk about racism Africans face in India? Whoopi was wrong. It was about Jamaica and the enslavement of Africans...
@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 they hate when the focus is on black people.
@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 Unnecessary to speak up for people? That's a shame to hear. It's not a separate topic and that's the point. And it was very important to speak about the colonization within their own country and the horrific loss the Indigenous community suffered in America. It's important for EVERYONE to be seen and heard that has suffered by colonization in this world and history. It was a valid point. i guess the rest of us have to wait for the Royals to go to each country that was brutally savaged for it to be brought to the hot topics table.
Finally Sunny is making sense and I agree with her 💯%. Joy is right. They don’t want to take responsibility for the wrong they do and continue to do.
Yes but it wasn't just black people, but also Indian people (India/Sri Lanka) and the Indigenous people of Canada and Australia too. I'm so glad Whoopi pointed that out because Sunny only tends to reflect on issues that affect her personally.
@@TamMcC That's absolutely not fair to say as the topic called to also points out that Europeans colonized other cultures and it wasn't only the Brits. And Sunny was only speaking about one culture and there needed to be a representation for other marginalized groups to be seen and heard and I'm so happy Whoopi did this. Yes, the topic was about Jamaica but if it were on a Latin American country it would be called to then also speak on all the other countries. I understand why you might think the common denominator is the black community but even within the black community, there is prejudice against the Asian community. The point is as they concluded in this video is that it's all over and we need to acknowledge the common denominator of the pain found in many cultures.
@@TamMcC This is not an all-lives matter tone. Black lives matter. But you can't negate history and facts. It's time for other cultures to also be seen and heard. We are people of colour as well that also have pain from our history because of colonization and slavery. We also suffer from discrimination and oppression against our race. And its ignorance like that is preventing progress. To make a generalized comment about anti-blackness in India is the very thinking that is still causing prejudice and racism to continue. Pick up a history book and see how the Indigenous community was and still is systemically oppressed in Australia, Canada and America. How have other races besides the white race systemically oppressed black people?
Oh f off. What did they do, eh nothing. U want to belive a liar go ahead. Fyi it was brits that single handedly stopped slave trade. If u americans had better education ud know that. But no ur to busy believing everything's to do with colour. Well tell me this smary Alic since it's all to do with race. Then how come Africans bought and sold their own people oh oh and why romans were buying and selling white humans.
Who are 'they' and who are you? Maybe humans need to wake up to the fact that tribes everywhere used to enslave others everywhere. That humans everywhere are having problems with being financially independent.
Europeans can't afford their rent.
The race stuff is a waste of time if we want to save European values. That is where the Europeans do absolutely not look to capitalistic undereducated America, who had slaves after the British stopped slavery.
Get your facts straight and think about the future.
That is challenging us far more than the last 200 years.
Also, many Jamaicans in Britain their documentation for citizenship or residency was "accidentally burned" and many have been deported because they don't have documents to prove, even though their ancestors who, btw, were taken to Britain against their will gave birth to them there, etc.
Yes Jamaica 🇯🇲 🙌🏾🙌🏿 😌 Love my people ✊🏾✊🏿
Thank you Whoopi for bringing light to the magnitude of suffering brought by colonization
Too bad Whoopi didn’t feel that way in 2009 when she begged for a audience with the Queen! Old whoop even paid for her own flight and accommodations...
She ignorant as they come. Africans enslaved Africans and slaves went to Latin America and the masks east. Is she asking them to apologize?
The say colonial countries were built on the backs of black people yet never once mentioned Ireland, Ireland was the first colony of the brits and its still effected to this day.
These are clueless race baiting women.
We made The View 🇯🇲💛 💚🖤🥳
Proud of my country, of our people.Our voices must be heard 🇯🇲🇯🇲
@@stephenjarvis2970 Where did you get that piece of non history from. Why do you insist on tackling a subject you do not know anything about?! Here's a fun FACT for you. In 600 AD or 650 AD, Jamaica, a Bauxite rich nation, was inhabited by the Redware people who made redware pottery. Then around 800 AD a new set of inhabitants known as the Arawak tribes, also called the Tainos people, inhabited the Island. They migrated from South America loooong before a certain Italian lied that he discovered Jamaica in 1494. Always try to learn a little history my friend.
Victim vs victor
@@marohan Don't be facetious 🙄 You have it all wrong. I don't think they looked at themselves as victims. I'm sure they were welcoming, but Columbus was no victor, he was an invader, who spread European diseases wherever he went.
I am Jamaican, thank you all for standing up for my country, because we have all stood up for each other.
Unfortunately they didn't stand up for Jamaica. They had an anti white jealousy rant, except for Joy, although they all benefit from white achievements and white inclusion.
All the best to you in Jamaica
Aren't the Chinese now doing what the the Europeans did in Jamaica
France should single-handedly lift Haiti out of poverty for what they’ve done to those ppl.
How about they construct their own society and make money?
@@plusultra6199 How about the country that enslave them and stripped their nation take some responsibility and pay them back.
Thank you ❤️ Ladies for speaking up for us may God bless y'all
I as a black Brit and descendant of the enslaved paid slave owners up until 2015, the Monarchy needs to GO.
yeah, good luck with that. If they go, Brit will take a huge economic hit from tourism and royal family merchanidse.
Crazy
@@duyle-ej6ty funny how France hasn't suffered that hit.
@@duyle-ej6ty oh well...
Well as black US lets say at least your country didn't have a civil war to end slavery. The money they gave prevented that.
And blacks in the UK were freed a lot sooner then the US. Literally a whole generation was free sooner then the US. Which was better do you think? Because in todays dollars the US spent 90 billion dollars on the civil war.
Sara was the Gem here - they want their fancy clothes but not want the dirty laundry
Sara was the gem here? A conversation about colonialism and slavery led by two Black women and you think one of the white women was "the gem here"? LoL. It slipped out, didn't it?
@@JJKayBen she had the best line and that guest host says more and more ignorant things every time she opens her mouth. Last I checked, they are all WOMEN as is Judge Jackson. I often agree with Sunny but she turns 90% of topics into people of color. She was the only one on Kanye West’s side the other day because he is a black
She had a great line. What is your problem with white woman? Are you racist?
Idk. How are people of today meant to 'take accountability' for the way the world was 300 years ago? Royal families hundreds of years ago often did a variety of terrible things. Invasion and conquering etc. Are their descendants responsible? On the matter of the King in particular, starting a slaver shipping company etc - morally one must factor in that this wasn't unusual. At the same time even white people were taken off the coast by the moors and sent to muslim countries as slave labour. Many countries were also in the business of slavery.
So would the Royal family writing a cheque really make it OK? How much? And to who?
@@MariaP1980 well put 👍🏻
I want a woman of Asian/Indian decent be represented at this table
What is Asian Indian decent tone?
@@CrystalM1917 typo, just fixed it
I think you mean East Asian or south East Asian/Indian cuz Indians are literally Asian they are just South Asian. I agree tho I also wouldn’t mind lesser known Asians such as someone from Bangladesh or Myanmar
@@amisings3716 yes that is what I mean. However, not that I understand, people do not believe India is “Asian” 🤦🏽♀️ I’m from Texas and that is a common answer.
I agree
Proud Jamaican 💚🖤💛🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Sunny came with the facts! Thank you for always being so informed Sunny!
Sunny is the MVP on this panel
@@fatwp6345she really isn’t tho. Her hatred has really being showing in recent episodes
Thank you Whoopi!!!! No need for my comment.
Not just black people Sunny... the first peoples of the Caribbean were enslaved and eradicated. Indians, Chinese etc were all affected. Thank you Whoopi for acknowledging the other groups and not just those of African decent.
Rise up Jamaica 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
✊🏽✊🏿✊🏾
Suny had the facts today !!!
Mi dispiace, sunny had her facts wrong and wasn't only lacking in nuance but displayed racism despite her privilege which she would not have if it were not for the whites in the society her parents fled to.
Highly embarassing
I regards to race, she's a bigot.
I absolutely love Jamaica. Great country.
I kind of agree with the black lady in red, I’m so tired of slavery being the only thing associated with being black….we’re so much more than that, we’ve accomplished so much
We ARE so much more than that, but if you want to talk about black excellence you need to start from slavery to freedom to the destruction of Black Wallstreet to never starting over again to the destruction of our communities to the corruption of our education and values to where we are now.
You need to know where you came from to know where you're going. I am proud of Black people's ability to fight and persevere starting from the bottom to now. I don't want any of it overlooked. Because some of the patents that some Caucasians families build their wealth on came from Black slaves. Black people will continue to be taken advantage of if they don't understand where it all comes from.
To put it in perspective, Henrietta Lacks cancer cell was taken without her or her families consent in 1951 and it is still used til this day as the world first immortalized human cell line. She died and her family has never seen a cent of that money that revolutionized the biomedical research field. So while I appreciate what the lady in red is saying, I'm not in complete agreement. I want it ALL learnt.
@@leidzyrosenkratz R we going to talk about how our own sold us into slavery tho. I mean if were going to talk about it then we need to talk about it all.
@@valeriewilliams5078 Sure we can. Do you think those Africans who sold other Africans understood what would happen to those people. Because in African culture, people were traded for good and services but it was an equal trade. It was also an equal trade that if someone in your family did me wrong than you would have to send that person or someone in there place to make it right. Please learn the culture that the trading of people came from as it pertains to African people culturally.
Now there were real African slave owners of the good varieties (buying families to keep them together and educating them behind closed doors) and the bad varieties who were just like the Caucasian slave owner in using Black people for work and wealth. But if you want to compare the number of real Black slavers and Caucasian based slavers which would include the Brits, Spanish, Portuguese, etc then there is no real comparison.
@@valeriewilliams5078 Also, I think they should emphasize and teach that before slavery became commercialized, racialized, and became something you could inherited. ANYONE could be enslaved. It was how the Colonist ended up here. A good bunch of them were criminals of different varities fleeing England and servitude. The irony! The Trans-Atlantic slave trade which started in the 15th century was something never done before.
Yes we certainly should teach the whole history starting from great civilizations in Africa. But slavery and racism is still an inportant part of the story of African Americans. It shoul dnot and cannot be ignored.
Sunny making this issue an American issue was a little offensive. We were talking about the Caribbean
Cause she is a disgusting race-baiter!!! All the witches on this panel are , and there getting paid big time for it , !!!
Sunny talked about Black people. Are most descendants of enslaved people of the Caribbean not also black? Seems like it is you with the flawed perspective of how Sunny spoke.
EXACTLY!!! What up with her comment “starting with the United States of America of course”. Excuse me but slavery started in South America and the Caribbean. British retribution’s should start where slavery started IN THE CARIBBEAN 🤬
@@m1eden No slavery started in Africa as soon as our ancestors were stolen. And, she not only spoke for black people here (Because the British also created the United States) but she spoke on black people in Jamaica getting reparations. Follow history as it pertains to the context of the conversation and you'll understand where she was coming from ..
@@LilliLamour indians descendants are there also...in carribean in huge numbers
That's my aunt in the cover photo holding up the sign. She used to work for the Governor General of Jamaica. Now she wants the monarchy gone! I am so proud.
What difference does it make to her or to you or me if the monarchy exists?
May the universe bless her
Thank you for bringing this topic to the table 👍 Only by a self critical analysis we can learn and prevent human suffering.
It's important to acknowledge committed crimes of our history and to apologize, to give back the dignity to the people that suffered and their descendants.
Greetings from Germany.
and the holocaust
Viel Spaß bei den Reparationen in Nigeria unter anderem... Falls das je thematisiert wird.
Aber generell einverstanden, die erste Welt hat ihren Reichtum auf Kosten ihrer eigenen Arbeiterschicht und anderer Völker.
@@fbenbow2197 I am a Brazilian Jew, you say that Jamaicans need reparations from the British. but it doesn't say anything that you killed and enslaved millions of Jews, where is the German reparation to the Jewish people
You shouldn’t apologise for acts you played no part in committing. Simple as that. If guilt runs through succeeding generations, the whole world would be a prison for we would all be guilty by those weak standards.
@@dandonovan11 You are right, we shouldn't feel guilty, but rather act responsible by learning from our heritage, the good and bad.
Nevertheless by apologizing in the name of our ancestors and by condemning those crimes we create the foundation for a better future.
The English were in everyone's backyard uninvited and unwanted. To be fair, some have acknowledged and speak of it; unfortunately, the ones who have the power to make the change but will never agree to acknowledging their wrongs.
England, Spain, France, Belgium, we can keep going
Germany, the Netherlands, Portugal, Italy, Turkey, Saudi Arabia
So many colonial states, thank you for pointing that out.
But there were Africans enslaving other African tribes, same as Indians.
The Maori in NZ in fact ate the tribes in NZ that were there before they came.
It is up to all of us to not be racist and not exploit other people.
It STARTED with enslaving black people!
India, Morocco, Algeria, Nigeria, Ghana, Egypt, Lebanon for enslaving the Spanish, when they were called the Phonetians, Saudi Arabia, or do we just like to point out the countries who have white people there?!
Right on Jamaica!!✊🏽✊🏽
Thank you
Girl... they found a dark white Meghan McCain child... 🤣
What is going on with Sunny lately? She isn't seeing anyone else point at all of view. She is so on edge lately.
Man please! She just correcting folks that are wrong. Ain't nothing wrong with that. 🤷♀️
Sunny is stellar! She states the Facts!
Thank you Whoppy and stop rolling your eyes Sunny. Indians have been oppressed for so long and done wrong as well
Sunny is the most racist
****Snap heard around the world!!****
"They want the fancy clothes, but not the dirty laundry"
-Sara Haines
The British monarchy also comited a genocide against Indians and Irish! Its not just people of color they owe an apology to
no they haven't
That's right, but Indians are people of color.
@@seeyoucu of course I meant not just black people
@@user-fg8it6kp3e what a great argument
@@r19905 im irish so i'd think i'd know!
"THEY WANT TO KEEP THE FANCY CLOTHES, BUT NOT THE DIRTY LAUNDRY." 100%
Sunny was addressing black people because she is a black latina. Black people have and are usually at the FOREFRONT of progressive movements and advocacy even in support of other groups because we usually fall into those groups in ADDITION TO BEING BLACK. However, where are Asians and Indigenous people on black issues? African American issues? Its okay for them to ADDRESS THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THEIR NEEDS DIRECTLY BUT WHEN BLACK/AA PEOPLE DO IT, THEY NEED TO BE INCLUSIVE OF POC...STOP IT!
They should really stay home. This colonial conquering celebration tour is in such poor taste.
they were invited
Seeing William and Kate participating in the same tradition is not cool 😑. Stop this nonsense!!!
I don't understand why people have to apologize for the past generations mistakes and misconducts. This is absurd, the world can not go forward if we keep on focusing on the past. Rather work together and keep on building the future.
2015 is not past generations.
Send reparations the end
Gurrll you can be about black excellence and learn black history WITHOUT feeling like a victim
Or waiting on a check or govt handout
True the loan info is correct But The UK banned slavery years before the USA did .
Thanks Sonny for skipping over that part and British ships stopped trade routes and Slave ships
So what if they stop before, they still did it.
no way. Mauritius was under British rule. We are no1 in Africa after 50 or so years. Prince William didn't say it wasn't me. He said "we are very much NOT a racist family. The Queen is LOVED throughout the commonwealth. People are extremely angry with Meghan Markle for lying about Archie not becoming a prince because of his skin colour. I actually agree with the new lady. Teach how people are different but to respect one another.
I agree!
That's not true for the west indies.
Times have changed! These people that Britain conquered, enslaved, and corrupted were doing just fine before those Brit’s step foot on their land. Same as America, us natives were all living in peace before anyone came claiming our land.
you must be joking...
Cherokee enslaving Navaho and warrior tribes stealing food from farmer tribes.
Yep, lots of peace I don't think.
Jamaica was probably doing fine and would be better without Western pollution and corruption.
But true that the Europeans stole the country and the land.
Same in New Zealand and Australia and Canada.
Now there is nowhere to go in the world where you can live in harmony with nature and in peace.That is how times have changed. So what are you and I going to do about it?
Best wishes from Europe.
@Raph Sherman granted the US is American Indians land. But before the pilgrims showed up Spain was in the Americas before then and traded Africans to American Indians what is now the southern US. They also killed white pioneers and took their children as slaves. Not exactly innocent. We definitely invaded though, in that I apologize that the American Indians land is suppose to be sacred and part of oneself. So what tribe are you from?
Why don't black people ever cry out for reparations from black people who captured and sold black people?
Black people were victims AND participants in the practice of enslavement.
Why don't black people realize pale people have also been enslaved and stop trying to bully pale people into fixing issues within black cultures that ONLY black communities can fix themselves?
And, why don't black people acknowledge what pale people have done against slavery EVERY time they speak about the practice?
Finally, it is tacky to attack a dead person and thier family no matter what shade they be. And, no amount of money will fix what is wrong (it would make it worse).
But, then again, it is ok to hurt people as long as they are white. Because, Northern Europeans don't have feelings. And, black people should expect the descendants of pale people to fix them forever more.
The black culture is the issue, the cause of the problems, NOW. Change your culture, change your life.
Things will not get better within black communities if these mental problems persist.
Take off the victim hat and leave the pale people be.
Change the culture that keeps one mentally enslaved.
We must acknowledge what has happen in history!
Absolutely wonderful conversation to do with the ladies
The monarchy is obsolete and needs to be abolished
Let’s let Lizzie finish it out but yes
Do you mean all the 40+ Monarchs in the world?
@@louisvonerregtberg1685 Lizze is not the only Monarch in the world. There are about 40 other Monarchs!
No it is not.
At least as long as Princess Anne works and Charles does his eco stuff and they represent us and our history.
Even if you were right, what would you gain personally if they were abolished?
The answer is less international representation, dignity and tourist money.
Every country that were and still under colonial rule should be granted independence and become a republic so we can begin to build among ourselves.
We need an Asian perspective at this table!!!!!! Sunny won’t acknowledge that there were any other slaves except Black! True facts there were other colors as slave too!
No they don't. They tried that with The Real and it went left. Just hire people who are tolerant and not solely out to put them or their own people first. It's fine to think of your own but constantly building a separation is the issue. If anything they need to bring back younger voices.
Everyone wants to be a victim. Oppression Olympics
It isn't only royals that stand on the backs of others. It's the rich. Everything comes down to money
Or lack of social democracy versus winning capitalistic anarchy.
Agree with you
Thank you for the conversation ladies; Whoopi, Sarah and Joy hit the nail on the head - its people not wanting to admit wrongness or that their ancestors did something bad. The fact that the empowered or wealthy have done (and continue to) take advantage of 'slavery' (in its many forms) is wrong - all humans have a right to their own being, and that includes owning up to their errors. I have been fortunate to be able to take my family history back to the 1700's and we were, for the most part, maids/ house workers or railway workers; having to pay anyone for the atrocities is abhorrent and shouldn't happen anywhere - I (also from the UK) had to pay taxes for this that I did not agree with. Language and labels hold power continuing to wide brush with "the British" is the same has saying "Americans" (as other comments have pointed out). ACTION Calls for acknowledgment, for ALL this affect/ effects is the first step and then working together towards positive steps forward.
Privilege is not a racist topic.
Look at all the upper classes in South America and Africa exploiting their fellow countrymen.
Or the Russian oligarchs.
The American racist white shame discussion is a distraction from the way forward.
Which is, every human who can help another besides him or herself should do that.
@@fbenbow2197 I would agree, privilege is not a racist topic, depending upon the context. According to what you just stated, the South Americans and Africans are enjoying privilege within their own countries, with people who look primarily like them. Let those same South Americans and Africans come to the United States and see if they enjoy those same privileges. I can tell you right now, they won't. Why is that? Because there is a form of privilege that reigns supreme-worldwide, but especially in certain diverse countries-where only one specific ethnic group benefits. And that is the context in which this conversation about the British is being had. And if you say otherwise, you're in denial and not wanting to recognize the issue for what it is. It's not the focus on race that is the issue here. It's ignoring the fact that racism is still deeply embedded in the hearts of men, and their decisions, actions, and words showcase this time and time again. THAT is the issue. We are never going to make progress and move forward until we uproot this systemic privilege that helps some but hurts others. This is not about shaming white people. Quite frankly, I'm tired of the race issues and race-based wars. But until it's addressed, which yes, means discussing it, it will always be here to haunt us. Prime example, mortgage loan applications are now being approved by mortgage-approval algorithms. One would think if there's no longer an actual human approving or denying a loan applicant sitting across from them or setting the interest rates for their loan, etc., that prejudice-whether conscious or not-would no longer be a factor when an individual goes to apply for a loan. Sadly, that is not the case. Studies have shone that there is a secret bias, more specifically, a racial disparity that is still prevalent in the loan-approval process, even those it's computer programming that's approving the loan and setting rates. Why is that? Because the individuals who created the algorithms were likely prejudice themselves and/or subscribed to the notion of privilege for some but not others depending upon skin color. You can research this for yourself. So yes, there is a problem of racism that still needs to be discussed. It doesn't matter who is perpetuating the racism that warrants shaming, if it's black people then let's address them, if it's white people then let's address them as well. But if you're honest with yourself, you know who the primary culprit is. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away.
Just found out black slave trader shackled my ancestors. I will be seeking reparations from their descendants. Everybody needs to call out Spain, Africa, Egypt, France, Asia. Ooh and Egypt still making money from pyramids that slaves built. Whst about British who sacrificed the lives to abolish slavery globally. Their descendants should claim reparations because of lives lost. Even the black slave traders didn't want to abolish slavery. Why are people of color not going back to their homelands. If that's the case, UK should deport everyone. End of story
I'd like to see someone talk about how slavery started
@@fbenbow2197 It can be, when it's misused. You need to rethink that.
The Cambridges are a great team. They do their duty with humility, class and grace. They will make a good king and queen someday. 🤴🏽🇬🇧👸
And it isn’t just india, the Caribbean and Africa… let’s not forget indigenous Australians, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Pakistan, Guyana, Belize, the list goes on
Sunny, get the chip off of your shoulder already. Nobody owes you anything!
Sunny forgets that before the colonization came with slaves the Natives used to be own that land. Also before colonization Mexico used to own California, Arizona, New Mexico etc...
She doesn't forget because she's also native.
Not to mention, that's not subject of topic, nor has anything to do with the context of points to the topic
she didnt forget sweetie lol
Great segment. Sunny was right on the money!
Being from the uk 🇬🇧 so glad of the demonstrations, the royals got rich on the back of racism
So proud of the Jamaican People!!
I’m a New Zealander, also colonised by Britain (Even after 25year land war).
My great-grand father was Lt Francis Meynell who worked on anti-slavery patrol ships around Africa and the Caribbean to try stop Slave ships from stealing people in the mid 1800’s.
The amazing thing he left, was his watercolour diary documenting his ship after helping to rescue people from slavery.
His diaries and painting were never returned to my family and are Now in the hands of much richer people, collectors and a museums.
I’m just glad google images exists to show his art is real!!
Woopi do part 2 of this great topic
The notion of black excellence would not exist without the notion of race/outside of critical race theory. Teach history in its entirety, this includes that. In Australia, although we do have a long way to go, we’re taught about The Australian governments policies and legislation such as the White Australia Policy, assimilation etc. but then we’re also taught about how first nations people lived prior to colonisation. Their sacred connection to the land etc. It’s simple, tell the truth. I say this knowing full well that Australia has a lot further to go but acknowledging is part of the solution.
Australia also said 'sorry'. That's why it is the best country on earth! IMO
Thank you for speaking on this
I’m sure the queen won’t lose sleep over that 🤣🤣
The British Royal Family did not get their wealth from slavery. This is a complete misunderstanding of history and how the Royal family gets its income. Also a lack of understanding as to how the royal family are not political. Charles could not apologise without the permission of the U.K. government.
Simple question: I am white. Have never owned a slave. How much do I owe?
Well spoken Sarah 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾❤️👏🏿
Great conversation!!
Thanks to Whoopi for mentioning India
Slavery has been worldwide for thousands of years. There are still many countries that have slaves. The British were among the first to abolish slavery and to fight against it. Also we can't change the past, but we can build a better future.
BROWNS AND BLACKS ARENT YOUR SLAVES!
Well said.
As a child we were in a minority that didn’t celebrate the Queen , my parents told us clearly they got there wealth from exploitation. In 1977 we were seen as weird for not celebrating the royals & that’s y I love the sex pistols song as a child I felt we were not alone . William & Kate are part of the problem & after Elizabeth 11 it needs to end for GOOD
Very good & timely discussion...!!! 👍
I keep noticing why do they always dismiss other races when they talk about slavery or racism like how sunny just did and whoopi corrected her and what does that say about her/them.
No, she was just talking about her and her ancestors, that's all. She never said that The royals didn't wrong other people. Never seen Indians or Irish include Black people when they speak about their terrible past with The royals so why do y'all expect Black people to always include y'all ? Everybody can speak for themselves. Sunny doesn't have to talk about Irish, Indians or whatever.
Because no population was enslaved to the extent of Africans. Not in length of time, volume, breadth nor treatment. That’s why. But I’m glad Whoopi broadened it and acknowledge other populations who suffered.
@@TrueOrigins1618 thanks u they always wanna include everyone yet not everyone experienced the same harshness that blacks did
@@lawtraf8008 it’s literally taught in Irish schools what the British did In India, Africa America and Australia etc. I was glad Whoopi mentioned India but the British weren’t only bad to people of colour either. Reparations are one of those never going to happen ideologies. Sometimes you need to accept the past for what it is and move on from it
Black people are always seem to be required to include others in their pain meanwhile Jews can talk about their pain and just their pain even when they are the ones inflicting on others (Palestinians).
Good for Jamaica!!!
Oh i got goosebumps...i am india...thank u whoopi ....for recognising 😭😭😭
Thank you whoopi for talking about India...
As an English person I'd agree that we dont talk about our history in relation to slavery and the impact of our history on others.
The Royals are at a strange place in time... they are currently very problematic however they are a tourist attraction that brings a lot of money to England throughout the year. I cant see them going anywhere or doing anything about this particular issue.
I don't know which school you went to or how old you are but we certainly talked about it.
While reading Uncle Tom's Cabin and Joseph Conrad and Graham Greene to name a few authors critical of colonial society.
Between awareness and guilt we need to help ourselves so we can help others.
What would be the point of Africans, Indians, South Americans and Chinese from the opium crisis enslaving whites for 200 years to make up for their grievances?
Which whites, those who were in the mining shafts when they were 7 years old? Or chained to a spinning wheel?
Sorry to say but the British colonization is the most worst thing happened to my country and the thing that many Britisher claims they've done good thing throughout the commonwealth nations boils my blood
@@eliclarke4014 hahaha angry brits
You’re right. I’m first generation British with Jamaican lineage and when I was at school we were NOT taught anything about our history. The nearest we got to our history was a program that came in tv called ROOTS. That’s when we saw how our ancestors were treated. I couldn’t watch it as after watching just 2 shows, I went to school and beat a lot of white kids. Today, I feel that England owes a lot to not only the Caribbean countries but the Asians to. It was especially the Caribbeans that built the NHS and showed them here about cleanliness and hygiene, rebuilt England after World War Two and fought on the frontlines too. How ironic that that countries that helped England back then, are the county that England fight against now and have the highest fees and regulations for a visa to enter their so called Motherland.
I am glad Whoopi included India in this discussion. Often times discussions on slavery especially when the UK is involved should be more than US focused. The British Empire was build on the backs slaves and indentured labours from around the world.
Reparations & apology are both needed.
Get over it. Walk it off like my coach use to say
Yes thank you Sunny