I don't think people realise how good this reel is for the money, it is literally the Stradic FL with the Vanfords frame! Slightly different handle and a couple less bearings is all thats different, this is a sub $100 reel that has the EXACT main gear/idler gears/oscillating block/main shaft/clutch and more as the Twinpower FD and 19 Vanquish! The Stradic FL and Vanford were insane because they were the first reels under twinpower to actually get high end internals and a platform shared with the top end Japanese shimanos, and now they've even added the Ultegra to that list? Honestly never saw this coming! Great review man🤙🏽🎣
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
I'm definitely going to own at least one of these reels. Can't wait to see and feel the changes in this reel, specifically the micro module gearing. The impact that that made on the new stradic FL is unbelievable. To pack that much technology into $150 reel is pretty exciting news for the recreational angler.
Absolutely. Micromodule 2 and Silent Drive are a very noticeable pairing. The MGL rotor in Vanford and Exsence is the only other feature that you notice as soon as you turn the handle
Thanks for this review, I've been tossing around several reel ideas in this price and weight range. I just ordered a 2500shg for a custom ML rod I have for bass and walleye fishing. According to my research, it holds about 150 yds of 10 lbs braid, should be more then enough. Great video.
The new Stradic has a lot of advantages over the Ultegra. Infinity Drive, Duracross GmDrag washers, Anti Twist Fin, Infinity Cross Gear, more bearings and I believe X Protext just to name a few things.
Many thanks for your excellent review! One question if you don’t mind. I’m divided between buying the 4000 or the 5000 model. The only sticking point is the drag system. You mention that he x carbon drag system is only included in the 5000 models. If that’s the case, then i may decide to go to that model. I have been looking for spect on the web and nothing mentioned, i’m afraid. I’d prefer the 4000 model but rather have the better drag system. Thanks for your time! Love your reviews :)
They are actually the same size reels, the only difference is that the 5000 has a deeper cut spool and will hold about 30 extra yards of 10 lb test. That and I believe the handles are slightly different as usually the 5000 has a bigger paddle. My advice is if you are fishing hard running fish like inshore, nearshore stuff or large freshwater species than get the 5000 because of the cross carbon drag. If you need a smoother drag go with the 4000 because of the felt washers.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Many thanks for your time and your reply. I usually fish for sea bass of up to 10 kg so I’m tempted for the 5000 model, unless of course the felt drag is more than enough in your opinion
can this reel (c5000xghg) been used in medium shore jigging with jigs around 60-70gr because i'm kind of scary since it has the spinning title on but overall specs looks like it will have no problem at all. Anyway value for money also since it is a shimano product we all know that will last
Hey, great video. Thank you. Today I got Ultegra C3000HG (2021 version). Is it normal for this reel that I feel micro bump somewhere in the reels rotation mechanics at the rate every 2nd time it travels a circle? Meaning, that when I spin the handle so fast that it starts to make a couple circles on its own, I feel little bumps in my other hand that is holding the reel while the it is spinning. Or is that a reels defect and I should replace it with another Ultegra reel? Hope for your reply, cheers.
Hi Rudolfs, typically I do not notice bumps when spinning the reel but it's such a subjective thing. If you are uncomfortable with the performance I would bring it in to your local retailer and maybe even compare it to another Ultegra in the box as the "micro bump" could be anything really.
great - how do you change the &^%$ handle? The 1000 seems to have a spacer in it and I can't get the teeth to bite and lock down no matter how much I screw. Any suggestions before I lose my mind?
I have a vanford 3000 and did alot of soul searching and wife convincing to buy it and had i known about this new ultegra i would have most definitely gotten it instead
Not sure if they are interchangeable. I would confirm with a Shimano reel service centre. It’s not often that sequential generations share the same components in every area.
If you dont mind the question: Would you take the old CI4+ Stradic or the brand new Ultegra. This seems to have a lot of nice upgrades, but I can get both of these reels at the same price currently.
Great review and wonderful reel . Tell me please where can I buy it ? Model ULTC5000XGFC I am from Europe, tried to find it in Europe but it is not yet selling on European market.
I was gonna get the vanford but I think this will fit the bill just fine. What type of handle is on the 2500 model? T handle or the normal paddle handle like the 2500 size vanford?
2500HG FOR PERCH IN SWEDEN WITH JIGG AND JERKS( 9 CM) CAN IT BE GOOD.. CHOOSING BTEWEN THIS OR VANFORD,.,.. BUT VANFORD FEELS TO LIGHT FOR MY WESIN ROD..LOVED MY OLD ULTEGRA SMOOT...dont want any play in the handle
Silent drive and Micro Module 2 gear make a big difference over the old Ultegra. You won't be disappointed with one that's for sure! But they do weigh more than the Vanford of the same size and don't have the MGL Rotor.
@@alexis_avb if you're fishing lighter finesse lines I would go with the 4000 for the felt drag washers. If you are fishing heavier stuff and want stopping power, the 5000 has the cross carbon drag washers. Both should have ample line capacity. I know Carp can run but not sure if you're using light weight leaders or not
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors yrs noted,all clear,thks.Ultegra my opinion is universal series Shimano.For feeder rods test 100 gr 4000-5000 and first ring 25 mm,very good and very strong reels.All time use leader 0,17-0,20 x4,main line 0,10-0,12 x8,carp 3+ no any problem.For huge carp ultegra 5500 ci4+ and more
@@artificialslinger9730 I agree with hating Shimano’s marketing and bullshit slogans for their latest and greatest technology... that said, I still fall for it and buy a Stradic every time the new series come out
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I don't think people realise how good this reel is for the money, it is literally the Stradic FL with the Vanfords frame! Slightly different handle and a couple less bearings is all thats different, this is a sub $100 reel that has the EXACT main gear/idler gears/oscillating block/main shaft/clutch and more as the Twinpower FD and 19 Vanquish! The Stradic FL and Vanford were insane because they were the first reels under twinpower to actually get high end internals and a platform shared with the top end Japanese shimanos, and now they've even added the Ultegra to that list? Honestly never saw this coming! Great review man🤙🏽🎣
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
Just purchased this reel in the C3000XG model.
I'm definitely going to own at least one of these reels. Can't wait to see and feel the changes in this reel, specifically the micro module gearing. The impact that that made on the new stradic FL is unbelievable. To pack that much technology into $150 reel is pretty exciting news for the recreational angler.
Absolutely. Micromodule 2 and Silent Drive are a very noticeable pairing. The MGL rotor in Vanford and Exsence is the only other feature that you notice as soon as you turn the handle
If you really like the stradic FL I’d go 2020 FD twin power 4000PG
Great review. I have a couple of the older ultegras and have no complaints, will definitely be picking up a 5000 model!
Excellent review, thanks a bunch, you just made my mind up. Ultegra it is!
Thanks for this review, I've been tossing around several reel ideas in this price and weight range. I just ordered a 2500shg for a custom ML rod I have for bass and walleye fishing. According to my research, it holds about 150 yds of 10 lbs braid, should be more then enough. Great video.
Great review. Thanks for helping make my choice for 2 new silver and king salmon reels
Love how u detail down the product. New subscribed fan from singapore! 🇸🇬
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks. Werry good review. 👍 And yes both old and new Ultegra is and we're not talked about much. Strange when you consider quality and price.
Just picked up the 2500. Gonna give her a rip in the morning. 180 yds of 15lb suffix braid and my favorite rig ready.
Good luck bud!
Always been a stradic guy but I don’t care for the design of the newest models. This new ultegra is a beaut.
How can you tell the difference between the old and new models when shopping in store? Thanks!
Can wait for your Video on the New Calcutta Conquest 2021 ! 😃
That one is next!
Damm, great technical info love it.
Appreciate it Nickolas, more to come!!
Thanks for the review! - How does this Ultegra compare to the current 23 Stradic? Thanks.
The new Stradic has a lot of advantages over the Ultegra. Infinity Drive, Duracross GmDrag washers, Anti Twist Fin, Infinity Cross Gear, more bearings and I believe X Protext just to name a few things.
Wonder what will be different between this than the Stradic FL
Me too
Main difference is bearing count and the body material as the Stradic is the all metal aluminium body and Ultegra has the Ci4+ body.
so only the 5k version has crosscarbon ? guess im going with the stradic fl 3k with cross carbon
Many thanks for your excellent review! One question if you don’t mind. I’m divided between buying the 4000 or the 5000 model. The only sticking point is the drag system. You mention that he x carbon drag system is only included in the 5000 models. If that’s the case, then i may decide to go to that model. I have been looking for spect on the web and nothing mentioned, i’m afraid. I’d prefer the 4000 model but rather have the better drag system. Thanks for your time! Love your reviews :)
They are actually the same size reels, the only difference is that the 5000 has a deeper cut spool and will hold about 30 extra yards of 10 lb test. That and I believe the handles are slightly different as usually the 5000 has a bigger paddle. My advice is if you are fishing hard running fish like inshore, nearshore stuff or large freshwater species than get the 5000 because of the cross carbon drag. If you need a smoother drag go with the 4000 because of the felt washers.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Many thanks for your time and your reply. I usually fish for sea bass of up to 10 kg so I’m tempted for the 5000 model, unless of course the felt drag is more than enough in your opinion
great review
JP, why no free spool in these models? Doesn't make sense to me. Sorry I made the purchase now.
E bay a 2500 nice 100$ Should be a performer
good review
what size reel was that you were showing?
can this reel (c5000xghg) been used in medium shore jigging with jigs around 60-70gr because i'm kind of scary since it has the spinning title on but overall specs looks like it will have no problem at all.
Anyway value for money also since it is a shimano product we all know that will last
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Hey, great video. Thank you.
Today I got Ultegra C3000HG (2021 version).
Is it normal for this reel that I feel micro bump somewhere in the reels rotation mechanics at the rate every 2nd time it travels a circle? Meaning, that when I spin the handle so fast that it starts to make a couple circles on its own, I feel little bumps in my other hand that is holding the reel while the it is spinning. Or is that a reels defect and I should replace it with another Ultegra reel?
Hope for your reply, cheers.
Hi Rudolfs, typically I do not notice bumps when spinning the reel but it's such a subjective thing. If you are uncomfortable with the performance I would bring it in to your local retailer and maybe even compare it to another Ultegra in the box as the "micro bump" could be anything really.
great - how do you change the &^%$ handle? The 1000 seems to have a spacer in it and I can't get the teeth to bite and lock down no matter how much I screw. Any suggestions before I lose my mind?
Great review! So, is the new Ultegra basically a Vanford minus 2 bearings and a different paint job?
Also missing the Ci4+ rotor. Ultegra is part of the Core Solid family of reels. Vanford is part of the Magnumlite series.
I have a vanford 3000 and did alot of soul searching and wife convincing to buy it and had i known about this new ultegra i would have most definitely gotten it instead
One more...one piece handle...lol
Hello. I have ultegra 17,, can use spool or line roller front new ultegra in ultegra 17?
Not sure if they are interchangeable. I would confirm with a Shimano reel service centre. It’s not often that sequential generations share the same components in every area.
So what parts of the reel they had the bearings installed?
Nice vid Man
Thanks Wyatt!
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors no problem!
Do you find the the New technology only on the bigger model 4-5000? They are hard to find in store in Québec Canada
No the 21 2500 -b has all what he mentioned
Looking at the Ultegra or stradic fl in 3000 size for black fish and fluke dont know which to go with
Either or will be good choices.
If you dont mind the question:
Would you take the old CI4+ Stradic or the brand new Ultegra. This seems to have a lot of nice upgrades, but I can get both of these reels at the same price currently.
I would take the new Ultegra because of Silent Drive and Micro Module 2 gear
But the last gen of Ci4 is an awesome reel and is also a low start up inertia reel where Ultegra is part of the Coresolid family.
is it 6 arb bearings? or just 1?
Reels only need 3 bearing s shaft and both sides of handle
Hard to support a pinion gear without bearings
Great review and wonderful reel .
Tell me please where can I buy it ? Model ULTC5000XGFC
I am from Europe, tried to find it in Europe but it is not yet selling on European market.
I was gonna get the vanford but I think this will fit the bill just fine. What type of handle is on the 2500 model? T handle or the normal paddle handle like the 2500 size vanford?
Normal handle. I believe the T handle is on the 3000
2500 normal paddle the 3 k up are t handles
Is it still worth it?
For the price yes. Marked upgrades over Nasci in so many ways. It’s just not a Stradic with its newer technologies. Lol
Miravel 2500 vs this new ultegra 2500 - tough choice or no brainer. JP- comments?
S-ARB bearings, Long Stroke Spool and Micro Module 2 Gear would all be worth the upgrade to the Ultegra
2500HG FOR PERCH IN SWEDEN WITH JIGG AND JERKS( 9 CM) CAN IT BE GOOD.. CHOOSING BTEWEN THIS OR VANFORD,.,.. BUT VANFORD FEELS TO LIGHT FOR MY WESIN ROD..LOVED MY OLD ULTEGRA SMOOT...dont want any play in the handle
Silent drive and Micro Module 2 gear make a big difference over the old Ultegra. You won't be disappointed with one that's for sure! But they do weigh more than the Vanford of the same size and don't have the MGL Rotor.
I would like to use 5000 for medium feeder,what is yrs opinion,thks
Medium Feeder?
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors yes,feeder rod,before I use shimano 2017 5000 all Ok
@@alexis_avb if you're fishing lighter finesse lines I would go with the 4000 for the felt drag washers. If you are fishing heavier stuff and want stopping power, the 5000 has the cross carbon drag washers. Both should have ample line capacity. I know Carp can run but not sure if you're using light weight leaders or not
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors yrs noted,all clear,thks.Ultegra my opinion is universal series Shimano.For feeder rods test 100 gr 4000-5000 and first ring 25 mm,very good and very strong reels.All time use leader 0,17-0,20 x4,main line 0,10-0,12 x8,carp 3+ no any problem.For huge carp ultegra 5500 ci4+ and more
@@artificialslinger9730 I agree with hating Shimano’s marketing and bullshit slogans for their latest and greatest technology... that said, I still fall for it and buy a Stradic every time the new series come out
Just get a stradic FL. Cheep and has everything ,aluminum body,more solid feel.
Stradic fl are 200$ what’s cheep I’ve used an f x 4 k for years @ 19.95 that’s cheep shimano direct and a 5 k in c class for 49$
What I dont understand why they have fishing reels named after their cycling products smh
Did this bloke just say Hagane gear is strongest in the industry? He obviously has never used a Saltiga reel before
Spindle bearings are loose, not recommended to buy
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