yeah that one guy , back in fuerte won a couple of races with a waist harness years ago and all pwa guys migrated to it. and years after it is still a trend. nothing but a trend. i used seat for years. then people told me waist is better etc. i tried waist for years and these are what happened.. i got tired way quickly, and after 70-80 km session i was fucked up. back pain also. i got slow. my gybes were worse. my balance on the board was worse.. and i went back to good old low hook seat harness. i was consistently a couple of knots faster. i was able to function even after 100 km sessions my balance on the board was better.and my gybes were smoother.. now first of all, you have to wear that waist harness tight.. real tight so you have good connection with the rig. but that does keep you from breathing and restricts the movement of your core. my balance and gybe issues were gone once i got back to seat. obviously it is faster, more comfy , abd on my case despite having big tighs it doesnt restrict my movement on the board , guees why... BECAUSE I DONT FREESTYLE!!!! for only just a couple of steps while gybing and tacking it is simply meaningless to be on a waist harness ... now , surely 99% of pwa racers use waist coz why not right... but just remember , antoine albeau, dunkerbeck dominated the scene with seats in almost all conditions... last couple of years of antoines albeaus reign he was on waist , and those years his results went down .. and then he retired... i dont think people realise the downsides of waist harness on freeride and slalom gear..but they will soon. for choppy conditions i use longer harness lines ... only downside of seat for me, is that you got overpowered later then waist , and once you are you are way more overpowered then waist. but that is usually when wind picks up so you need 2 sizes less of a sail and a board ,somits kinda redundant.. thats my take.
@@oldboy-g8y Thanks a lot for your reply. You some interesting points and I will try to switch between the semi seat harness aka Liberty and the waist. In the next video I am only using the waist for some club racing. The action has already been filmed so in the next one I am only waist. But after that I will test both again. Once again thanks for the great feedback
Actually a lot of pros use waist harness in high wind conditions and they tend to use seat harness on big rigs. Also a PWA guys sail for a very short time. A race is a few minutes. Big differencec compared in cruising around for hours.
@@therealgoodhurt legs were fine, I think the liberty harness is harder on the legs. There was a little bit tiredness in the lower back but nothing compared to earlier. I think the very stiff pro limit harness helps
Kinda hard to see but i think the board looks unstable and doesn't fly over the chop. I also noticed you get out of balance quite often. How it feels ls for you? What the numbers say?
@@dveziris numbers were good around 33 knots. The board feels more loose then before and I have more power. But I am not used to sailing that way so some times the board gets away from me. Still early days on the different technique
@@surferkaspert4679 i see you are leaning the sail to windward a lot and it lifts you up, i suggest to try lowering your boom 2-3 cm to plant the board . Please make more videos on the progress 🤙
I never could understand the long harnaslines: I am always between 28-32 & always with waistharnass. I was looking at your downhaul…seemed a bit too much to my tasting…you might reconsider testing that a bit?
since de video is a bit shaky I really can't tell the difference in set up. From the spoken part of the video I understood that, you heightend the boom, shortend the lines (from 44 to ???) and chanced to a waist harness. Is that correct? And the goal was to avoid lower back pain and go faster? A video with your old and new stance would be helpfull although I remember the video with yor 44"lines and had the feeling that was way too long for a vin set up. I am referring to this video th-cam.com/video/IsxjiLlvVjU/w-d-xo.html. In this video you seem to have less control in comparison with today's although the conditions are quite different.
@@sandervang1208 went to 34 and waist harness and the higher for now it seems when I am not overpowered but in the next video I am struggling a bit as the guy I was competing against was 108kg and I am 82 but more on that later
@ I have sailed a little bit more. In the video released yesterday with the fin racing in Nyborg I only used the waist harness and my last session was on the liberty harness but I need to do some sailing where I have my friend Soren so I can line up with him and find out what is the fastest. But I have shortened my lines with both set ups and moved the boom higher which generates more power.
yeah that one guy , back in fuerte won a couple of races with a waist harness years ago and all pwa guys migrated to it. and years after it is still a trend. nothing but a trend.
i used seat for years. then people told me waist is better etc. i tried waist for years and these are what happened..
i got tired way quickly, and after 70-80 km session i was fucked up. back pain also.
i got slow.
my gybes were worse.
my balance on the board was worse..
and i went back to good old low hook seat harness.
i was consistently a couple of knots faster.
i was able to function even after 100 km sessions
my balance on the board was better.and my gybes were smoother..
now first of all, you have to wear that waist harness tight.. real tight so you have good connection with the rig. but that does keep you from breathing and restricts the movement of your core. my balance and gybe issues were gone once i got back to seat.
obviously it is faster, more comfy , abd on my case despite having big tighs it doesnt restrict my movement on the board , guees why...
BECAUSE I DONT FREESTYLE!!!! for only just a couple of steps while gybing and tacking it is simply meaningless to be on a waist harness ...
now , surely 99% of pwa racers use waist coz why not right...
but just remember , antoine albeau, dunkerbeck dominated the scene with seats in almost all conditions... last couple of years of antoines albeaus reign he was on waist , and those years his results went down .. and then he retired...
i dont think people realise the downsides of waist harness on freeride and slalom gear..but they will soon.
for choppy conditions i use longer harness lines ...
only downside of seat for me, is that you got overpowered later then waist , and once you are you are way more overpowered then waist. but that is usually when wind picks up so you need 2 sizes less of a sail and a board ,somits kinda redundant..
thats my take.
@@oldboy-g8y Thanks a lot for your reply. You some interesting points and I will try to switch between the semi seat harness aka Liberty and the waist. In the next video I am only using the waist for some club racing. The action has already been filmed so in the next one I am only waist. But after that I will test both again. Once again thanks for the great feedback
@ thx for great content and hard work
Actually a lot of pros use waist harness in high wind conditions and they tend to use seat harness on big rigs. Also a PWA guys sail for a very short time. A race is a few minutes. Big differencec compared in cruising around for hours.
@ naah , they race for a couple of minutes but easily they complete 70-80 km in full race day.
ask surfkasper how many races he did on ifca races and how many kilometers he cruised in a race day.
good, keep kaspering !!!!
Can you describe what exactly did you change with your new stance? I'm also learning slalom..
@@123loreni higher shorter lines then earlier but still on 34 as the shortest.. zero to negative pressure on the front foot
So you didn't get all that lower back and leg fatigue with the waist harness?
@@therealgoodhurt legs were fine, I think the liberty harness is harder on the legs. There was a little bit tiredness in the lower back but nothing compared to earlier. I think the very stiff pro limit harness helps
It was a bit hard to see the stance Kasper withnthe shaky video. Do you have an option for Video Stabilization on you camera?
@@paulsp2k we are back on the tripod on the next video will be much better
Kinda hard to see but i think the board looks unstable and doesn't fly over the chop. I also noticed you get out of balance quite often. How it feels ls for you? What the numbers say?
@@dveziris numbers were good around 33 knots. The board feels more loose then before and I have more power. But I am not used to sailing that way so some times the board gets away from me. Still early days on the different technique
@@surferkaspert4679 i see you are leaning the sail to windward a lot and it lifts you up, i suggest to try lowering your boom 2-3 cm to plant the board . Please make more videos on the progress 🤙
I never could understand the long harnaslines: I am always between 28-32 & always with waistharnass. I was looking at your downhaul…seemed a bit too much to my tasting…you might reconsider testing that a bit?
@@johndewit2310 if you look at the pros they use pretty long lines. I am not a pro but would like to sail as one😉
It's very hard to see, let alone judge, what you are doing different than before. Perhaps some more explanation? Otherwise, always good videos.
@@fonsvandenhove different harness shorter lines and higher boom
since de video is a bit shaky I really can't tell the difference in set up. From the spoken part of the video I understood that, you heightend the boom, shortend the lines (from 44 to ???) and chanced to a waist harness. Is that correct? And the goal was to avoid lower back pain and go faster? A video with your old and new stance would be helpfull although I remember the video with yor 44"lines and had the feeling that was way too long for a vin set up. I am referring to this video th-cam.com/video/IsxjiLlvVjU/w-d-xo.html. In this video you seem to have less control in comparison with today's although the conditions are quite different.
@@sandervang1208 went to 34 and waist harness and the higher for now it seems when I am not overpowered but in the next video I am struggling a bit as the guy I was competing against was 108kg and I am 82 but more on that later
@@surferkaspert4679 Did you do some more sessions the last days? I am very curious about your opinion.
@ I have sailed a little bit more. In the video released yesterday with the fin racing in Nyborg I only used the waist harness and my last session was on the liberty harness but I need to do some sailing where I have my friend Soren so I can line up with him and find out what is the fastest. But I have shortened my lines with both set ups and moved the boom higher which generates more power.