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- Engine 1, Engine 4, Engine 7, FD113, FD211, FD212, FD313, NUMEROUS Training Units, Ladder 6, Rescue 1, Squad 3, and Squad 7 Responded to the Reported Residential Structure Fire at 13:57 on September 27th, 2021.
B-shift crews responded to the scene of a residential structure fire with smoke coming from the edges of the garage doors. Upon their arrival, they discovered a fully involved fire in the garage. Due to the number of combustible materials, the heat and flames were extreme. Crews acted quickly to extinguish the fire and limit the spread to the rest of the house. All occupants were able to safely exit the residence, and no injuries were reported.
Here’s an A shift fire video if you would like to watch it. th-cam.com/video/EMAQGFQ3BGA/w-d-xo.html
Just to answer a few frequently asked questions.
1. Broken Arrow Fire Department is a paid ISO Class 1 Department.
2. I don’t have any sort of go fund me information or any way to help the family. There was word that it’s a former firefighter. I can’t confirm or deny that. But y’all are great for wanting to help the family.
3. As for manpower, each engine and ladder have 3 personnel. Ladder 6 (the ladder on scene) had 2 riding, and one following in the brush truck. There were 3 engines and one ladder on scene. You can do the math. There were also 4 Firefighters between two ambulances that could help with fire attack.
Broken Arrow Oklahoma?
@@jayjay-bz3rr yup
This is the most leisurely firefighting I've ever seen. Was it a training exercise?
@@jablot5054 I was thinking the same thing. Godamn 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@bh2556 just like the Jamacan fire depth,maybe tomorrow man.
As a fire fighter for several decades I was completely in shock. There is obviously a severe lack of training here. This was painful to watch
Thank you for saying that, they look totally incompetent!!
these firefighters are bound to have nuclei !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Não sabiam lidar com a mangueira, que que é isso??😱
@@tthomas501 Verdade
Were you also a troll while working?
Their firefighting skills are like something out of the three stooges.
You know not a expect by any means but geez they don’t seem to be the best .
👎👎👎 they don't have any experience the first thing they have to do is open the door 😂 and come to the house to bigin to dress up 🐼🤔🤣🙄
🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎👎👎
😂😂😂😂 you are very correct! At the beginning Their hose were like the pee of a drunk man.
This has to be a comedy skid!!! There’s no wayyyyyyyyyy
Been there for over 14 minutes and no water on the fire AMAZING
False. 2:25 into the video...they walked into the front door with a charged line. We are all hoping that you are not a fire fighter.
I see 9 min with water on it that is not to bad from arrival to cutting the door down and getting water on it in 9 min and did it safely with nobody getting hurt yes that is AMAZING
Oh, my God, I can't even finish watching this. This breaks my heart. Them guys are so slow I don't think they know what they are doing
The fact that they gave the fire air by cutting the garage door without any water ready to go is complete insanity and I've never had a minute of fire training.
They had a crew inside already.....very poor tactics
@@adamkeye5197 EXactly, I'd love to hear whether the interior team requested horizontal ventilation of the garage door. If they did not, or command did not instruct those dueling teams of morons... It just doesn't make sense, from someone who had 5 years in fire service, and 20 years as a news photojournalist covering fires, i've been on well over 1k structure fires in my lifetime. This was like watching a benny hill skit. Fuck all out of SOP.
They forgot to bring water with them.
I piss a better stream
If I was part of this fire department I’d quit in shame.
A very weak response with no organizational skills. Took forever to get water .
I couldn't help but scream TURN THE HOSE ON!!!! The whole time. The lack of urgency is absolutely heartbreaking foe these home owners to watch.
Right I agree ✌️😳
Turtle
Old dude with the garden hose took down more flames than ladder company 6 and 8 combined.
My Brother was a firefighter having since retired and moved to Australia where he now lives. Once he retired he became a tutor at Glasgow Airport, Scotland. He once told me he`s seen things no-one else should see. Firefighters the World over deserve our undying respect and should get it without asking. All heroes !
Quite agree aa firefighter front line in the UK I was really surprise at the lack and fire attack at the incident,but praise to ALL FIREFIGHTERS wherever they are 🤔🤔😐
Lot of things could have been done different here, I reallly hope this department uses this footage for training on what not to do.
A joke
I just wish they would have been ready to go on air the minute they stepped out of the engine. Lots of time waisted there. Good as they made an interior attack first but I was afraid the outside crew was going to push it back down on them when they did get the garage door open.
Literally. I was so mad
@@wheelslip no need for the cutoff saw , those doors are basically trash and so thin that one push take's to take them down , and slow/not prepared firefighters , lots of wasted time and untrained personel
@@wheelslip some depts are going to the clean cab design which means bunker gear and air packs are in the truck cabinets and they don't Don them until arrival. This is to reduce carcinogen inhalation (they also decon and doff the gear and stow it back in the cabinets on the ride to quarters and then into the laundry after each fire). Supposedly, response times are faster by waiting to Don on scene, but I haven't seen that data to confirm. The big question I had at first was why they didn't take down the garage door immediately since it was where the most smoke was being emitted? Of course, I wasn't there to fully assess.....
As a fire service instructor for over 25 years it pains me to watch this video. I routinely discourage public criticism of fire ground tactics,however, I pray the leadership of this department uses this video as a n opportunity to evaluate fire ground operations from a personal safety perspective, the betterment if this department and the benefit to all of the citizens they may serve. There are so many serious errors demonstrated here not fault of the individuals you see here but a failure of leadership at the highest level. Please act now before it's too late! As for the home owner this video serves as evidence of negligence, duty owed, duty breeched, foreseeability, significant total loss property damage. Sorry brothers just had to comment.
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BA has more money than brain's, the city has a history of piss poor management.
Thank you for speaking up and advocating for change
They also move like they have MOLASSES in their behinds.
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt & have so much respect for the firemen. But as a regular person watching this, I thought something is lacking in their actions. Thanks for confirming it, I thought I was expecting too much. I sure hope they got more training.
This is a perfect video of what not to do when attempting to stop a structor fire.
This is why we always critique a fire incident ASAP. Starting out with the positive what we did right, and what we could've done better. For this fire I would start out with the positive Miraculously no one was injured or killed. Let's start out with full PPE with SCBA on before anyone gets near the the hot zone. Forcible entry in this case with heavy smoke puffing out the garage, you need a hoseline backup. Need to consider assigning a truck crew to vent group on the roof. Have interior group check for extension in the attic, if not done already. Keep in mind that heavy black smoke like that pumping out of the garage openning is fuel and it will eventually ignite into flames. It was good they went with a 2 1/2" hose, but too late in the game. Plus it looked as though the engineer was very slow in charging that line with water. More training is definitely needed with the stressing of full PPE including SCBAs, fireground operations, and use of saws.
I couldn’t figure out whether the fireman were trying to put out the fire or just allow it to burn! Shocked at what I saw.
How not to fight a fire!
Lol… scene taped off at end as reports come in that 14 men were seen acting suspiciously in the area dressed as firefighters
Same this was my home town at one point buy now I'm in tulsa really Hope they got better training
Have seen that on more videos of different US fire departments. Total difference with firemen here in the Netherlands.
How not to fight a fire. Nobody thought it would be a good idea to lay into a working fire? These guys, through lack of command, burned this home. I hope the insurance company saw this video.
I never seen firemans working so slowly in my life. They lost house because of losing time.
I agree with you !
The department i volunteered at would not allow this. We always had water on the fire within 45 seconds of being on scene. That includes making entry, VES. We would have most of the fire out before auto aid showed up. This is ridiculous.
It's Oklahoma. Everyone here is fat and slow
@@petarneykov3189 😩🍔🍟🍕 !!!
Very slow
These guys needs to watch the movie Fireproof and watch how quickly they responded. They are fighting this fire like they’re paid by the hr.
If their insurance company sees these videos, premiums are quadrupling!
These guys are slower than molasses in January! I'm surprised the house didn't burn clear to the ground.
Slower than molasses in winter time, the outlaw Josey Wales
I love the dueling cuts on the first garage door, absolutely no coordination between the two cutters. Horrible tactics and absolute dismal sense of urgency from anyone on this scene. Nice job causing more damage to the structure by venting the roof when there was literally NO SMOKE coming out of the vented ridge cap! I’m embarrassed for them…
🤣 I was laughing when the dude started cutting a triangle. What a potato 🤦♀️
the vertical venting puzzled me also -
I think the roof cut at the end was a part of overhaul, not venting. You know, because the fire got into the attic and never should have.
@@corey97140 I suppose that’s a logical reason, however, as an IC myself I would never allow my crews to cut a roof open for overhaul, I send them in through the attic scuttles. I read a comment that this is a paid department, if this is true their training Division has failed their community.
@@davidrossman7925 definitely. It looks like a finished attic, so you should be able to pull ceiling and access that area. So your guess is as good as mine. 🤨 Definitely poor execution all the way around.
Wow they were moving incredibly fast! A huge show of urgency said no one ever. Good grief
This fire department must have a share in a fire restoration business
Maybe. There's plenty of career firefighters with side businesses out there.
Dude , they know the whole place has to be gutted the first few minutes on arrival, there’s no need to spaz out and rush things, it’s not like they’re going to save anything
This is just confusing . Seemed dangerously unprofessional to my untrained eye.
It is unprofessional to my very trained eye.
Most lethargic firefighting effort I’ve ever seen
You dont run at a fire scene.
@@jimlahey5733 Do you spray water at a fire scene? I don't think the opposite of lethargic is run. It means get the lead out, pick up the pace, hustle, quick step, double time. However, Sootlickers always have an excuse for protecting the thin red line.
@@jimlahey5733 no you don't run at a fire scene but you also don't walk like you have no shits to give about this person's property. And I am a firefighter.
I think the guys that came to my fire could give these guys a crawl for their money and the Chief at my fire actually got caught standing in a loop of hose and when they pulled the hose he went down. I always thought firefighters rushed . They rush like a herd of turtles. I will blame that on the suits and if its hot I can imagine you can energy drain quickly The guys I had had no training , they used the building later for training .
Хорошие были машины! Пожарные работают прямо скажем не спеша! С такими работничками весь дом выгореть успеет! Наши несравненно лучшие!
What bunch of clowns!
Imaging how frustrating it must be for the homeowner to stand there and watch this lot stroll around as if they are out for a walk in the park.
The delay in getting water into the second garage just about sums up the ability of this crew.
Disgraceful.
This is the perfect video on what NOT to do. Everything and I mean everything was absolutely wrong.
I was looking for this exact comment to comment on. My 9 year old son was asking why were they doing this and that. I told him, “son this a department that doesn’t fight fires on a regular and will get someone hurt or killed. No Monday morning QB here for those that think so, 24yrs in a busy city and a Training Captain for my platoon. Why would you wrap your attack lines with velcro? Why not flake from your shoulder. Why the non-chalant attitude in getting masked up to save life and property? Not gonna comment about the garage door, too easy. Why open the roof AFTER the bulk of the fire has been knocked down? Just a few questions for the critique portion. I would defer inspections for a month and do nothing but live fire training at their million dollar facility. Jus sayin.
@@juanrivera1143 I am a civilian looking at getting into the fire service so I could be wrong here, but it seems a bit stupid that some of these dudes are pulling the garage door down without being on air. I would think they would be at a very high risk for inhaling cancer causing particles.
@@dylananderson4722 First I would hope that you find a department to give you the opportunity to fulfill your dream bud. It is a GREAT job!!!
Your Exactly right on those members not on air. Cancer in the fire service is at an all-time high due to the products of combustion in the newer materials AND common sense mistakes like this. You will move up the ranks quickly if you don’t do anything that you saw on this video. Good luck on your fu Ute endeavors Dylan.
I am not a fireman but I agree so much was slow and not thinking on the fly.
@@juanrivera1143 retired here , but what are you thoughts on the effectiveness of a piercing nozzle through the garage door to buy some time while stretching --- talking a about a quick one man operation (we had a piercing nozzle with a 100 ft in a bundle in a compartment ) so pretty quick deployment. Wasted effort vs results ?
Wow, thanks for taking that from bad to worse!👨🚒👩🚒🧑🚒🚒🚒🚒
You can’t even pee straight into a toilet bowl
I've seen some pretty bad operations in my 40 years as a firefighter, both career and volunteer and served from Probie to Chief of the Department and this scene would rate in the top 10 of clusterfucks I've seen! And I'll admit that I've caused a few clusterfucks myself, but did learn valuable lessons from them and used my mistakes to teach others what not to do.
Broken Arrow must stand for Broken Fire department I hope they use this video as a training exercise, so many mistakes were made. ( Oh and when you get to fire move your ase's a bit quicker)
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one to noticed how slow they were.
@@vickytownsend1646 guess venting roof option
No doubt should be on air leaving the engine they lost as soon as they vented what was the interior attack crew doing? Its been long time ago for basic fundamentals but I recall for that type of fire fog fog fog stream am I all wet wet here. Kenneth Boren not my computer barrowed.
I worked at McDonald's and had to move faster than that 🍔
They act like it's their first day in training. Moving as if they didn't have a clue. Wow
I am not an expert in fires and I see and recognize that the fire department has a very good team to work with...both personnel and tools. What I can see the most is the very little will and empathy to promptly attend to the fire. I get the impression that you are interested in the whole house being lost. There was no lack of water, there was a lack of will.
Much love to our Neighbors in BA from Tulsa! Still some of my favorite colors in a rig in the state.
were seeing old head cutting the door and a newer fire fighter cutting the door. That's awesome to see the difference in training we now teach the triangle and fold in now but we used to back in essentials days teach a square fold in i thought that was amazing to see lol
My heart goes out to the elderly gentleman trying whatever he can to try and slow down the fire. So sad.
he will be fine everything is covered under homeowners insurance Even the hotel rooms
@@Pinkielover yes but insurance can't replace memories or photos. Some of the most important items in my home are things that could never be replaced
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He Is a retired Firefighter from Tulsa. A waaaaayyy more aggressive Dept. So this must of been extremely painful to watch. Should of just gave the old salt an SCBA and their turnout gear, we know they didn't need it.
TFD=Good old boys, hard working, aggressive and under paid
BAFD=Boys Club, overpaid, non-interior and overpaid.
TFD is hiring BTW.
@@seanmeg it's 2022. If your photos aren't backed up digitally somewhere outside your home...well, you should do that right now.
An absolute shambles from start to finish my heart goes out to the home owners
If They Could Sue They Should
Absolute shambles? How? They did a fantastic job. Garage fires are a pain in the ass to get water on quickly compared to a regular structure. Yes, looks like there was a com issue trying to get the second line charged and that delayed them a bit. Other than that, they did a good job. Great teamwork, and they knocked it out.
Let's break it down
A: When arriving on scene, there no visible flames, only heavy smoke coming from the garage doors. This means it's in the garage. B: Only real way to access the garage to fight a fire there is the outside door. C: Once you own that up, that's fresh O2 and it's gonna just feed, that's exactly what it did. D: No they can't just open the doors, because now what if the fire is in the ceiling? Well you just put the door in the way! Wasting time closing it to cut it off anyway. E: Again, yes charging the second line seemed to have been delayed for some reason. You can see the hose crew several times trying to signal to have it charged. F: They had the first line charged fast, and went in to see what they could do from the inside while they created access from the outside. E: Fire was knocked out in what appears to be about 20 minutes. Based on the description and the little bit of chatter in the video, sounds like something exploded inside before they arrived, and there was a lot of combustible things that just fed the fire too.
So again, how was this an "absolute shambles from start to finish" as you claim?
Looks like it was fine to me shut up
@Allison shut up is that the best you can come up with 6 months after the post
You can see at 5:10 the fire is in the garage and is starting to be starved for oxygen, you can see how the smoke comes out, then is immediately sucked back in. Need to have at least 2 lines ready at the door, them either lift the door, it if it's stuck, have 2 guys with k12s at each end. They both make vertical cuts up, the center section falls down, opening the hole and have the 2 hose teams knock down the fire. Then check for extension and hot spots. Mop up and go home.
Edit: at 5:45, whoever is in charge of maintenance, should be shot! That engine should have started in 2-3 pulls. I maintain our power units on our Hurst tools, and we've started them in 10 degree weather with no more than 3 pulls
perfect assessment..even more efficient, a decent sized hole saw bore through the middle of the door..less than 3 secs..you could have x2 bore holes cut twice the diameter of the hose in half the time it took them to even start that circ saw...that door alu is paper thin....astonishing...i genuinely thought it was a training video...sad ..this is the result of taking the vaccx probably..
Deus abençoe e cuide desses profissionais que arisca suas vidas em prol das outras.
they might as well have finished their coffee before arriving. Pathetic fire fighting. This was like watching The Three Stooges without all the slapping and punching each other.
lol
@@durandjohnson1321 Ha
there is much worse video than this one...
🤣🤣🤣
Would agree with previous comments, clearly, the lack of oxygen was holding back the fire, so surely before cutting open the garage door you would make sure that water was charged and available at the hose before proceeding.?
Oh and the TeePee cut on the garage door was a nice touch ......Take that saw away from him !
@@frankbudelman7113 yep --the main purpose of a tepee cut is to spread the load on a bearing wall , sadly a lot of the fire service have no actual knowledge of the whys
@@slackjawedyokel1 What bearing wall...what the fuck does that mean...that's a garage door !
@@frankbudelman7113 triangle would be something u learn in kindergarten.
@@frankbudelman7113 if they were just going to take down the garage door why wouldn't they just cut right down the middle and pull it out?
I love all fire fighters and appreciate their dedication. . Watching this video and counting over 3 minutes until water was utlized? The Germans have the Striker 4×4, w made by Oshkosh. The Striker 4×4 offers “innovative fire suppression. The moment the Striker fire truck arrives it can dispense fire suppressants without having to get out of the vehicle.
Im agreeng with the other comments.
The lack of urgency is absolutely heartbreaking for these homeowners to watch. This was painful to watch.
Old dude with the garden hose took down more flames than ladder company 6 and 8 combined.
Shocked at what I saw.
What I can see the most is the very little will and empathy to promptly attend to the fire
how did the fire start?
Why the hell would it take so long to get hoses started upon arrival. These firefighters looked like they were in no hurry and the time delay caused that fire to spread much more than was necessary. This department should be investigated....
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Not knocking this fire department, but this just shows that practicing to fight a fire should never happen on scene. Be it a vehicle accident, or other type of incident. Definitely something to learn from here is venting, and making sure you have lines charged ready to go when you need it most. This fire wasn’t a practice run at your local burn building used for training. This house could of had a lot less damage if you move quickly, safely yes but diligently. Timing is everything, and some of the tactics used like taking the garage door as a whole, perhaps if you can get to the release you could of maybe pushed the garage door up. Kind of like going to a vehicle accident always try before you pry.
Not knocking you but you should learn the proper use of the word "have"
where you keep using the word "of".
@@kevinjones6577 Venting a fire will only increase it's intensity by feeding it more oxygen. The reason the house wasn't fully engulfed is because it remained sealed until they had to gain entry. Having a line charged prior to knowing what your exact attack angle is going to be is also never a good idea, You would need about 6 guys to wrangle a charged line into position vs. 3 for an uncharged one. You wouldn't think so, but there's a tremendous amount of pressure built up in those things!
For real...this looks like a practice burn
That garage door was impressive.
That is a good thing to think of. Of course the person I need to ask about "of" and "have" is not here. Of all the things to think of....I don't think either is wrong. Kevin Jones are you in TX ? Lol that's my husband's brothers name. Don't forget that a horse is a horse of course of course.🐴
The phrase "All the dear no idea " comes to mind
Holy crap!! While they had a charged line as they went into the front door of the home....they sure didn't move fast enough to quickly chase the fire down as they had the door open - allowing it to vent a bit but it also gave the fire more heat to build on. The sad part was when the entered the #2 garage..they didn't even have a charged line before removing the door - thus giving the fire perfect opportunity to build hotter and advance!! Noticed the (Not in a rush) behavior while men and equipment moved - so where do all the older wal-Mart greeters go when they retire....too the Broken Arrow Fire Dept.?? My heart goes out to the home owner and the insurance company who has to assume this big loss.
The home owner was doing a better job with his garden hose.
Dream on
I agree
@@Pinkielover Aerosmith.
This house should not have had so much damage. The crew needs to go back and get retrained...
I agree they really were dragging their feet
Do you know anything about fire fighting? Water flowing and inside in 2 minutes is excellent. If the fire had a serious head start there is nothing they can do to make up for that. They were very quick.
@@chuckman231 dude that was the most lackadaisical attack I've seen in awhile and yes I am a firefighter.
@@chuckman231 bro…
@@chuckman231 doesn't take a firefighter to see its a lazy pathetic display of skills and ambition.
Commenting a year later sometimes seems pointless, but a lot of people still watch these videos. Nearly 30 years paid part time here and the hardest thing to watch in this video for me is the compromise of firefighter safety. High volume fast black smoke, 5 or 6 firefighters standing up in it with no regard or maybe understanding on how close that smoke was to flashing, no protective line during the cuts. Enough space above a panel door to get some cooling happening before anything took place. Pencil the door or use a tic to see how hot things are on the other side. Only luck prevented serious injury or worse. There are many ways old and new to fight a fire but read the smoke wrong and you may not come home. Stay safe.
everyone is so calm and chill like attending a barbeque party
They're moving like they know this guys house is toast!
When you give it air you gotta give it water too! Lines should have been in place and charged before the garages were opened up.
Exactly.
Yep, being on damage control in the Navy, you wait until the lines are in place .1 foam, 1 water and. 3rd is a "fogger line " to keep the front line guys cooled down ...ship fuel burns freak'n hot
Look idiot,garage was open BEFORE fire dept even arrived…pay attention.
@@richardyork9495 I am not exactly sure what you are talking about? Both garage doors were closed, the fire department cut them with k12 saws and were not prepared with hose lines. What are you referring to?
@@richardyork9495
Not in my video. You must have another one.
In the first 3 minutes of this video , all I can think is that " they sure are taking their sweet time about confronting this fire and putting any real of water down!"
They Act Like THEY could care less they need to be fired ,what If People Were Inside Trying To Get Out
From the UK, I'm always amazed just how long it takes you guys just to get water onto the fire. Then to cut open the doors without having a team with a hose ready is just ridiculous. Would you perform better if it were a crew member's house? First guy out of the truck takes a hose to the front door then spends time untying it?...
It’s a preconnected hose in a bundle. Is useful for quick deployment if you have a solid D/O and are familiar with your equipment
They know the whole place has to be gutted on arrival, why should they spaz out on the scene?
@@richardlacey4923 Looking at the comments, most seem to agree with me.
I lived about 5 houses down and remember this. The hydrant was in my yard on the corner. Believe the older homeowner was a retired firefighter.
What a mess. Horrible “tactics”. Embarrassing to say the least.
Why take down the garage door and not have water at the ready???
Agreed, not only did their procedures and attack plan seem unorganized but this is, by far, the slowest moving fire department team I've ever seen
Yes, it's very sad to note the non-chalance as well as the non-professionalist of the firefighters. 😤
But we all have to agree on this one, that we have to applause 👏 the way this house was built and the fantastic fireproof construction of the garage ceiling and walls. Without that, it's for sure this beautiful home will be good for demolition.
It looked like they spent more time tidying up than fighting the fire!
Probably very good at mva's!
Seeing that first truck show up, relief! The house will be saved, minimal fire damage, smoke and water mostly confined to garage. Then the fire fighters exited the vehicles. Everything down hill from there.
They should be rolling out crime scene tape, not fire scene.
Correct me if I'm wrong by all means, but I was of the assumption that fire fighters were meant to put OUT fires not make them bigger!
The old "no sizeup, no 360, no investigation, hoselines on the truck while introducing unlimited oxygen to the fire, reverse hydraulic ventilation" tactic. It pretty rare to be into your 3rd entry point and 3rd hoseline before actioning the fire, but hey everyone has their own SOPs.
I'm not eager to bash my brothers and sisters in the fire service but this video genuinely is difficult for me to watch. The actions in this video consistently went against everything I've been taught as a fireman, as well as showing very little understanding of fire dynamics. I hope they take the opportunity to learn from this and move forward in a positive direction.
I took a CTE intro to firefighting class my senior year of high school. We did our practice drills in teams of 3-5, everything from setting up scenes as IC to charging lines. This was almost a decade ago, but we would have had, at the very least, our 3 best teams in the front door of that house with a charged line before these guys even began thinking about venting the garage door. not even gonna talk about that damn garage door 😂
Wondering why it took so long to charge the lines? As a 23 year veteran in the fire service I feel totally ashamed watching this video. Total need of training!!!
This is a training video how NOT to perform
BROKEN ARROW is actually a US Military code terminology for when a Nuclear Bomb (Missile) has been lost.
I see its contained to the garage/vehicles, but does anyone know what started the fire?
Having read pretty much all the comments and having done damage control/ fire fighting in the Navy as well as being a volunteer fireman ..I agree there was a lot of things that should have been done that were not 🤔 1st being the garage door .
I love how the old lady was just posted up sitting in a lawn chair on the front yard like she was at the park
She should be awarded recording this idiots!!!
She's old, probably in shock watching her house on fire.
I didn't read all the comments yet but what started the fire?
What’s Broken Arrows FPA rating?
Ok. All you Monday morning quarterbacks. I’m retired from that department and discussed this fire with the captain in charge.
What you can’t see from this one angle is the garage had an extension to the rear with a vehicle in it. There were various containers of gas and other flammables inside the garage along with the vehicles.
He only had himself and a driver on the aerial. The first engine had a crew of 3.
They had difficulty in accessing the major part of the fire in the rear. They took hand lines through the front door and to the garage. The fire never got into the house. It was confined to the part of the garage visible in this one dimensional view, and stopped in the rear ( not visible to the camera).
The fire from the back was very intense but the had made entry ( again, not visible in this video). The heavy smoke pushing out after the overhead door was breached was due to the fire attack from the rear and interior of the house.
They had three vehicles on fire, additionally excess containers of gas and other equipment. At the 14 minute mark the fire was decreasing and the 2.5” opened up.
Could it have been done better? Maybe. Manpower shortage plus getting supply lines in took longer than average. But they kept the fire out of the house. The fire load was extreme and had the garage and addition before they arrived.
Unless you were there, you’re basing your criticism on a one dimensional video of a tough fire.
Considering the situation they did a pretty good job.
Wow!! Waiting for the flashover multiple times at that garage door!!
What do you think they became fireplayers for?
What's with the triangular cut on the garage door? Is there a purpose? I thought they might use it as a flap of sorts in case it wants to flash with the new oxygen
every video i see of u.s firefighters they seem so chill like its ok that the house is on fire no biggie just carry on
They know the whole place has to be gutted.. why spaz out on the scene?
Props to the fire department for saving the basketball net.
It’s incredible how easy they take it. They should do more training....
In my local, I have seen firefighters have trained running and jogging all the times. If there are evaluation about their jobs, I am afraid they could get below 7 out of 10.
They make moar damage fhan The fire 🔥
Public servants some are good most not so good
It was hard to tell from this video. Was the FD there to put the fire out ? Or just make sure the rest of the house got destroyed too ?
Great idea, cut out the door, give the fire loads of air but oh our water hose has no pressure
Poor house holders my heart goes out to you.
State Farm would probably assess the damage at $3,500.00 including the cars😅
14 minutes to get a second line charged? poor tactics, opening up garage doors without charged lines ready, roof wasn't vented, nozzle man on the ladder..filling the second floor pool? The term 'Broken Arrow' means imminent destruction...
2nd line went in the front of the main garage at 8:20.
@@Firebuff that's still 7 minutes too long..
Literally one of the best examples of what NOT TO DO on a garage fire..total garbage. Either complete lack of training or just zero experience. From total lack of coordination on the initial cutting of the doors to what seems like even a basic understanding of flow path. They legit 100% responsible for losing this structure.
And grandma sits in the middle of it all 😂
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!! VIVA CHILE !!! somos únicos!!
Bombero chico bueno...🇨🇱
Y no son remunerados...grande bomberos de Chile
Viva chile !!! Y sus bomberos!!!!
Tengo un gran respeto y admiracion por los Bomberos de Chile; realment entrenados y muy avanzados tecnológicamente. Espero algún día poder visitar Santiago e ir a la Bomba 18 y Pompe France, y quizás poder tomar algún curso con ustedes. Saludos desde México.
That is unacceptable that they cut open the garage and didn't have one dame fire hose ready. What a damn joke. I hate to be that guy but this is the absolute worst attempt at putting out a fire I've ever seen.
Watch the video again. There was a hose charged and ready to go.
@@mikehanratty4300 not on the second door.
Poor work from start to finish
@@mikehanratty4300 I did watch the video. The door was opened at 8:18 and water was put on the fire at 8:25. Having a charged line is worthless if there isn't wet stuff coming out of the nozzle. He then sprays for 14 seconds and stops the water. He leaves and goes to the other side of the garage and sprays for 4 seconds before turning off the water again. If YOU watched the video you will see that in the 2 minutes AFTER the door is removed water is applied for about 30 seconds. Then why remove the second door before a line is ready. I seem to remember something about heat, combustibles and AIR making a fire grow in intensity.
What's even worse that guy is running that K-12 with no gloves on. CRAZY
Я бы таких профессионалов выгнала с работы всех до одного ! С такой работой молоко прокиснет !
I was expecting a lost thermo-nuclear device, but okay. Thank you and thumbs up.
Responded to a fire much like this one, years ago. Everything worked in our favor. Hydrant was located just 3 houses down. Combination department and had several extra personnel at the station at receipt of alarm. Attacked fire from inside out, with immediate effective positive ventilation. Fire auto ventilated out a garage door, as aluminum panels fell away as we were attacking. Garage very crowded, as most are. That was probably the 2nd hottest fire I had been in. We quickly realized the door between living area & garage was open. Firefighter quickly entered & closed door, as we were pulling lines, and setting up for attack. Got a knock down on it, but one of the vehicles had lit up, which is a HUGE amount of BTU`s in a confined space.
Fire personnel can make all kinds of excuses on their response, but videos shows horrible urgency on attacking efforts. Fire was still controllable, but no one was the least bit visibility worried
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That was absolutely the proper approach. Always consider there is a car on fire in a garage or heavy fuel load. Ventilation is a must and direct application of water. Looks like these guys were over sold on CAFS abilities and neglected backup lines as well as urgency.
Wet stuff on the hotstuff,sorted,not stand around admiring your cutting work.
I remember watching this video before and thinking that fire department should be held accountable for that fire
What was burning in the garage? Cemicals? Gas?
I’m wondering, if the fire was in the garage, why didn’t they cut just one spot in the garage to vent and then use positive pressure via a fan from the front door or inside the house.
Then attack the fire as it vents out the garage?
That’s how we were trained here in Kansas
If you are going to take the garage doors TAKE THE DAMN GARAGE DOORS. Don't leave them hanging there for someone to get caught on or fall over or rip a handline
I like the way the ff on the left is completing his cut on the main garage door and the guy cutting across the top kicks him, twice. Sad
@@SHFDRescuemedic I was also amazed by this. And then the door just hangs there. One dude comes in to take it away. A second one thinks: yeah let’s take the door away! Oh wait that looks heavy, let’s pretend I didn’t see that and walk the other way again. Pffff really.. and where is the water when you open the door.. or why do they need to get dressed on the lawn still, before going in… let’s hope they change for the better, or at least get some command structure in place that works.. tell these poor folks what they need to do…
I don’t know about Broken arrow but the Firefighters are B R O K E on training for sure.
What was that sorry attempt to open the garage door with the hall again after they cut it open?
What's the 20 on da H20?
Holy cow, what happens when something really serious happens? I hope they get this figured out and fixed
It’s known as “ all the gear but no idea”
Painful to watch the lack of training, the lack of sense of urgency and the lack of sensitivity to the damage that someone's physical integrity or someone else's property was suffering. It is unfortunate that our life has to be entrusted to "teams" like this.
The lack of urgency was because the fire fighter new their where no lives in danger. At that point it becomes contain and put the fire out No need to risk more lives the house was a total loss befor the first truck
Arrived
@@robertusa1234nice try!!!
These people let the house burn when in fact, if they had attacked the fire correctly, it could have quickly been put out!!!
Seriously, how the hell can anyone stick up for that kind of incompetence??!??
Wtf!?!
Is this their first fire? How do you get off the truck not ready to go in?
I hope that the homeowner was able to recover from this.
Dangerous handling of the saw as well. A guy without protective gear starting up a saw and then twice somebody gets almost hit by it.
Plus he drop started it
And upped the hazards with sharp metal left semi-removed! Right unacceptable IMHO
can't believe they're only using one hose! I guess if they don't put it out today they can put it out tomorrow!
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Мне нравится как они работают, не спеша, потихоньку и главное аккуратно
и поют песенку - Гори, гори ясно! Чтобы не погасло...
Шесть минут на развёртывание...просто песец.
Работают как в штаны налажили!😂
Now they're tearing the door down to make sure the fire has enough O2. Bold strategy!
Yes, Cotton, that’s a bold strategy…!
Lol
Can you make any suggestion as to how else they were going to get at the fire, Einstein? They couldn't even tell where the fire actually was until they had the doors off.
@@greenmanofkent the point was they never should’ve knocked that door down, and given more oxygen to that fire UNTIL THEY HAD WATER READY…
Just remove the “Arrow” in the name & call it the Broken Fire Department. They made it way worse than it should have been.
I agree a lot worst
Yess
Hilarious
Broken arrow is the name of the city so no we can't remove arrow from the name of the city
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The fire thanks you for giving it so much of what it needed! Between propping the front door open and removing the garage doors you might as well have put a fan on it too. Yikes!
Hahahhaah
Lol
I thought the same thing. Why open the garage doors. It's light fuel to the fire.
To put it the fire? Get the hose inside? "Oh yes, let's fight a fire by not opening ANY doors" 🙄
@@OkieOtaku Surely a small hole and shove the hose in ??
What are these guys doing one of the slower team have seen on videos