I just discovered your channel here the other day, and I must say that your tutorials and videos are really useful and contain a lot of great tips and tricks! Kudos
Would love to see a top to bottom project for an M83 inspired song. More importantly, would love to see how they accomplish their wall-of-sound synth and guitar layers. Great channel!
Please make more content about pop vocal mixing 🙂 i use the same microphone Aston origin but my mix is not good 😖it will be helpfull for people like me and others. Thanks !!
Since you said for us to suggest another couple groups that hit hard in the indie folk scene that you could checkout are Caamp and Penny & Sparrow. Also would love to see how MARO does the stacking for her incredible voice!
this is a great tutorial thanks, in ableton what alternate compressor do you recommend? is the stock ableton one any good to get the same result or any others like the waves ones? would love it if you could do this whole video in ableton lol as i find it hard to follow in other programs
If you're still pretty new to plugins like compression, just keep it simple at first. Learn the stock Ableton compressor really well, and then maybe learn a second compressor that has a more specific tone (like Waves CLA-2A or CLA-76 for example). Keep it simple. There's no need to try and use a bunch of different compressors at first. I still tend to use the same 3 over and over again.
In my version, you’re correct. And in Novo Amor’s original version, the louder takes are panned left and right, but there might actually be a third take lower in volume down the middle. It’s hard to tell. Thank you for your kind comment!
wow excellent tutorial mate, been searching for an indie folk vocals tutorial for a while, tks!!! btw have you also posted or happen to know where i can find tutorials like this one using waves plugin only? or Logic Pro X stock plugins only... tks again, ill be back for more 🤘🙌👏
Loved it…!! Fantastic!! I’ve looking for this exact tutorial long ago!! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Marcus for taking the time to help us!! Appreciate it so much!!
This was amazing! Have you done a video to get a style like “once in a lifetime” by finneas? I’ve been trying and failing to get that kind of vocal. Also, is there any stock reverb that comes close to the Valhalla. It’s so creamy and smooth. Maybe there is no stand in
Thanks! As far as a Finneas type vocal, make sure you’re using tight tuning on the vocals, build your vocal compression skills, and then of course build your vocal skills so that you get a great vocal take. Once you have those things dialed in, it’s amazing how easy it is to get a good reverb sound. You can certainly use stock reverbs to get a similar sound to Valhalla if it’s a more subtle effect, and perhaps even if it’s obvious. Using a filter or high cut on the reverb can make a huge difference to the perceived warmth of the reverb.
@@theindiemusiclab I'm curious if you've done any videos on using multiband compression on vocals. It could have been because my recording techniques were poor, but I came to use a multi-pressor in the chain to push down frequencies between 200 and 1k.
@@theindiemusiclab One more thing! I came across these amazing impulse responses that are hidden gems. They are for space designer. They are called Bricasti m7 and BG Lexicon 480. I think you should do a video on those because the one I found was over 4 years old. Could be an awesome video for your subscribers to see!
Said I could ask: kindly make a tutorial on music production, start to finish, something to work with what plugins to use, how to use them, layering etc
For the punch compressor in this scenario, at 8:52 you mentioned the Attack should be slower. Did you mean shorter, as the Attack in that example is set to ~0.5ms, whereas you used a 1ms Attack in your "balanced" compressor. Nice video :)
Thanks for pointing this out! I should’ve been more clear. The vintage style compressor I use for the “punch” compressor has a fast attack overall but my ears tell me it attacks the vocal in a different way than a stick compressor does. Basically, if I was using a stock compressor to emulate the vintage compressor, I doubt that I would want the attack setting to be as fast. I don’t like to be too meticulous with these technical things and I try to let my ears tell me what’s working, and I suppose that’s why I ended up being unclear on this topic.
Yes, I played the guitar on this. If I remember correctly, I think it was drop d tuning. That “buzzy” note is the open low string tuned down to a D. The song is in the key of A.
Thank you very much! I’m assuming you mean REAPER? I haven’t ever used that software but everything I teach in this video can 100% be applied to any Daw using whatever plugins you have on hand.
I'm a singer like Sujan and Billie Ellish style，but still looking for a good Microphone and Sound card equipment，any recommendation？ not too expensive😅
Thank you man these videos help me a lot. Since you’re encouraging I do have a request for a video. Can you break down how Bon Iver did his vocals specifically on Beth/Rest and Hold My Liquor?
Well technically yes because there are tracks like the guitar, keys, low octave vocal etc. that are down the middle. I’ve found that doing this “double take” Vocal with left/right panning only works for specific genres but this type of ambient folk is definitely one of them where this can work beautifully.
All that does is turn up the volume. It’s not necessarily bad to copy and paste a track, but the processing needs to be different for the copied version or it’ll just be louder and that also creates phase issues. This specific sound is very dependent on combining different vocal takes.
I would be shocked if he doesn’t use tuning of some kind. Whether that’s Melodyne or AutoTune, or a combination of the two. either way, the fact that you even asked the question shows that it’s subtle on purpose and any tuning is added for the purpose of tightening up the vocal sound rather than adding any sort of obvious effect. It’s one of those things where you could record 20 takes and get every line virtually perfect in pitch, or you could record 5 takes and then make a couple minor tuning adjustments and save yourself a bunch of time and headache. I’ll take the latter approach every day of the week.
An idea; maybe do a tutorial for Sigur Ros/Jonsi style vocal production?
Wow, this is one of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched. You’ve earned another sub. Nice work.
So glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the comment!
I just discovered your channel here the other day, and I must say that your tutorials and videos are really useful and contain a lot of great tips and tricks! Kudos
Thank you so much! And welcome 🙏
Would love to see a top to bottom project for an M83 inspired song. More importantly, would love to see how they accomplish their wall-of-sound synth and guitar layers. Great channel!
i was looking for a tuto like that for months, you're an angel...Thanks
I’m so glad you found it helpful! Appreciate the comment very much :)
Thank you for this video! Appreciate you taking the time to explain such complex production
Thank you for the kind words. I’m so glad you found the video useful!
thanks man, you helped me find the missing link with a song I've been working on. The borderline ASMR vocal style really transformed my song!
That’s amazing! I’m so happy to hear that.
This is the video I’ve been looking for. Thank you. Subscribed
So glad to hear that. Thanks!
There are just a few TH-cam Channels that really worth it, and this is one. ¡Great job!
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Please make more content about pop vocal mixing 🙂 i use the same microphone Aston origin but my mix is not good 😖it will be helpfull for people like me and others.
Thanks !!
Hey dude great content! would enjoy seeing a remake of Hazlett - Blame it on the moon! Some amazing stuff in there to dissect.
Great Tutorial!
Sir...You are the winner! been searching for something like this for months. Thank you
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you found it helpful.
love the work/teaching flow. would be sick to have you do this on early elliott smith work like xo
Since you said for us to suggest another couple groups that hit hard in the indie folk scene that you could checkout are Caamp and Penny & Sparrow. Also would love to see how MARO does the stacking for her incredible voice!
Great vid! Learning a lot from you
Thanks so much!
This is what I needed.
this is a great tutorial thanks, in ableton what alternate compressor do you recommend? is the stock ableton one any good to get the same result or any others like the waves ones? would love it if you could do this whole video in ableton lol as i find it hard to follow in other programs
If you're still pretty new to plugins like compression, just keep it simple at first. Learn the stock Ableton compressor really well, and then maybe learn a second compressor that has a more specific tone (like Waves CLA-2A or CLA-76 for example). Keep it simple. There's no need to try and use a bunch of different compressors at first. I still tend to use the same 3 over and over again.
You basically don't have a voice channel in the center? i love your channel, really good track
In my version, you’re correct. And in Novo Amor’s original version, the louder takes are panned left and right, but there might actually be a third take lower in volume down the middle. It’s hard to tell.
Thank you for your kind comment!
wow excellent tutorial mate, been searching for an indie folk vocals tutorial for a while, tks!!! btw have you also posted or happen to know where i can find tutorials like this one using waves plugin only? or Logic Pro X stock plugins only... tks again, ill be back for more 🤘🙌👏
we need a video for sufjan stevens songs
Loved it…!! Fantastic!! I’ve looking for this exact tutorial long ago!! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Marcus for taking the time to help us!! Appreciate it so much!!
I’m so happy to hear that! Thank you so much!
Is that head voice or falsetto?
That's it!!! Thnx so much. really helpful!
This was amazing! Have you done a video to get a style like “once in a lifetime” by finneas? I’ve been trying and failing to get that kind of vocal. Also, is there any stock reverb that comes close to the Valhalla. It’s so creamy and smooth. Maybe there is no stand in
Thanks! As far as a Finneas type vocal, make sure you’re using tight tuning on the vocals, build your vocal compression skills, and then of course build your vocal skills so that you get a great vocal take. Once you have those things dialed in, it’s amazing how easy it is to get a good reverb sound.
You can certainly use stock reverbs to get a similar sound to Valhalla if it’s a more subtle effect, and perhaps even if it’s obvious. Using a filter or high cut on the reverb can make a huge difference to the perceived warmth of the reverb.
@@theindiemusiclab Sweet! Thank you!
@@theindiemusiclab I'm curious if you've done any videos on using multiband compression on vocals. It could have been because my recording techniques were poor, but I came to use a multi-pressor in the chain to push down frequencies between 200 and 1k.
@@theindiemusiclab One more thing! I came across these amazing impulse responses that are hidden gems. They are for space designer. They are called Bricasti m7 and BG Lexicon 480. I think you should do a video on those because the one I found was over 4 years old. Could be an awesome video for your subscribers to see!
Great tutorial man 👌🏼 thanks for creating and sharing! Earned a subscription from me - will be checking out some more of your tuts 🙌🏼
Would love to learn how to sing like Kodaline
Said I could ask: kindly make a tutorial on music production, start to finish, something to work with what plugins to use, how to use them, layering etc
For the punch compressor in this scenario, at 8:52 you mentioned the Attack should be slower. Did you mean shorter, as the Attack in that example is set to ~0.5ms, whereas you used a 1ms Attack in your "balanced" compressor. Nice video :)
Thanks for pointing this out! I should’ve been more clear. The vintage style compressor I use for the “punch” compressor has a fast attack overall but my ears tell me it attacks the vocal in a different way than a stick compressor does.
Basically, if I was using a stock compressor to emulate the vintage compressor, I doubt that I would want the attack setting to be as fast.
I don’t like to be too meticulous with these technical things and I try to let my ears tell me what’s working, and I suppose that’s why I ended up being unclear on this topic.
Sir its request plz make a complete lesson on nova amor song carry on
What budget - ish kinda mic would you recommend for novo type vocals?
Do Ry x type vocals
did you play the guitar if so what is the tuning you used 😢 if you didn’t, can u tell me where to find the sample!?
Yes, I played the guitar on this. If I remember correctly, I think it was drop d tuning. That “buzzy” note is the open low string tuned down to a D. The song is in the key of A.
I'm Brazilian, and in love with your editing 😍Is there a way to do this in REPEAT?
Thank you very much! I’m assuming you mean REAPER? I haven’t ever used that software but everything I teach in this video can 100% be applied to any Daw using whatever plugins you have on hand.
you wouldn't have a burial pads and vocals tutorial ye ?
(I'm its not indie but I think it falls right under your video type category)
I'm a singer like Sujan and Billie Ellish style，but still looking for a good Microphone and Sound card equipment，any recommendation？ not too expensive😅
Thank you man these videos help me a lot.
Since you’re encouraging I do have a request for a video. Can you break down how Bon Iver did his vocals specifically on Beth/Rest and Hold My Liquor?
Good stuff, thank you!
Appreciate the comment! I’ll 100% try and see if I can put something together like that
Thank you so much man I know how much dedication figuring out this these specifics can be so I really appreciate your content.
@@theindiemusiclab th-cam.com/video/m2SQcQwT9XQ/w-d-xo.html this stripped version may help
Vocal bus: Eq, DS, Colour, EQ boost, concert hall reverb with decay of about 2.
Could you do a dermot Kennedy sound video…from his album “without fear”
Thanks!!
Can you do this with Logic Pro?
Which daw do you use?
I’m a Studio One user
So there is nothing in the center of the stereo field?
Well technically yes because there are tracks like the guitar, keys, low octave vocal etc. that are down the middle. I’ve found that doing this “double take” Vocal with left/right panning only works for specific genres but this type of ambient folk is definitely one of them where this can work beautifully.
can you just copy and paste one vocal? so that they are the same?
All that does is turn up the volume. It’s not necessarily bad to copy and paste a track, but the processing needs to be different for the copied version or it’ll just be louder and that also creates phase issues.
This specific sound is very dependent on combining different vocal takes.
Does Novo amor use auto tune??
I would be shocked if he doesn’t use tuning of some kind. Whether that’s Melodyne or AutoTune, or a combination of the two. either way, the fact that you even asked the question shows that it’s subtle on purpose and any tuning is added for the purpose of tightening up the vocal sound rather than adding any sort of obvious effect.
It’s one of those things where you could record 20 takes and get every line virtually perfect in pitch, or you could record 5 takes and then make a couple minor tuning adjustments and save yourself a bunch of time and headache. I’ll take the latter approach every day of the week.
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A tutorial on Lana Del Rey and Julie Byrne vocals production
can do a Weeknd / xxxtencion tutorial
Ghostly kisses plz