Update! I have just finished The War Within and my GOSH was that so cool. very, very different from anything in the game at this point, loved being surprised with new mechanics.
Warframe's cinematic quests are a treasure trove of splendor. I still remember my very first playthrough of the Second Dream all the way back when it first released and I'll never forget it
Wait till you go through Chains of Harrow and get haunted by the man in the wall. Angles of the Zariman will revolve around the space ship where the tenno got their void powers in the first place. The New War will simply blow your mind as it's gonna be a quest at the grandest scale as the sentients return for a rematch after the Old War you hear about lore wise. It might take you up to 5 or 6 hours to complete that epic story line. The New War and The Duviri Paradox provide interesting context for each other. Then there's Whispers In The Walls that revolves around the Lovecraftian void entity you're introduced to during Chains Of Harrow. Honourable mentions for The Sacrifice that gets you a version of Excalibur that has free will along with an emotional story about how comes this warframe is so one-of-a-kind. And also The Call Of The Tempestarii which is quite a treat when you get to hear the first and as of yet only sea shanty in the game. Or rather, space shanty which is btw very catchy and even more epic than We All Lift Together. Point is, you're in for quite the ride tenno.
And here we are, 8 years after the release of the questline and to this day the community is incredibly protective of not spoiling it for new players. It's THAT good of an experience.
@@NEWGHOST9 True, but it's still better that they do take so long to keep giving us great moments, rather than try to rush it like some games do and cause it all to fall flat.
i actually remember when i played this back when it was released. it took me a whole minute to process the ending arc. i am not Rhino, i am not Excalibur, i am not Ember, I am not Nova. I am a tenno. and the best part of this quest is players make a general consensus that nobody should spoil this quest for new players.
@@menosgenerade6697Exactly! I am part of a fairly large clan and we have a group of new players in there. One of our rules is that when it comes to second dream and most stories in Warframe, nobody can spoil a thing. We can guide, make sure going in right direction, not making newbie mistakes if can help it. But the rule of no spoiling is held to such a high regard, that if someone does it, its not even a warning. Thankfully, only 2 or 3 have been kicked for spoiling content.
I still refuse to use my operator in front of anyone under rank 8. Back in the day when we had much fewer options for energy it was a pain to pop energy pizzas instead of using zenurik dash for energy (which is now an ability instead).
People want the same experience like they did. Sadly there rare few who doesn't care, I mean the type who doesn't care story, I don't understand these people... Anyways, story bring so much power, it even give motivation to keep going.
If you think everything you know has been flipped on its head now, the rest of the New War quest line will really be something for you. The Sacrifice is one of the quests that I replay every so often due to impactful it is.
Some of my favorite quotes are from this quest and every so often I talk with people about movies, books and video games and I just want to let them play this quest because no word can destribe it properly.
Shame that New War dropped all this storytelling with amazing potential for something so rushed and trivial. They didnt resolve anything in a meaningful way.
i want people who played up to this quest only recently, keep in mind this quest wasn't in the game on initial release. it was released almost 2 years after launch, and there where only vague hints to the Zariman accident in some lore bits on some of the frames (that i think got removed), sort of like what the Fromsoft Souls games do with its item descriptions holding hidden lore, though not as well done as Fromsoft. so you spent 2 years, or more if you were playing some of the early game betas, wondering what was going on.
It was only 3 years, but yes, we _did_ lose our minds when this quest dropped. The Second Dream is the reason Warframe has a firm position on my list of my favourite games _of all time._ SkillUp did an entire video analysing this one (without actually spoiling anything) and he used the word "masterstroke"- the one little brilliant twist that turns a piece of art into a masterpiece. It's much harder for new players to be unspoiled these days, what with Operators being casually discussed in-game and in the promotional material, but it's still taboo for Warframe veterans to spoil the twist of The Second Dream for a newbie. One of THE greatest experiences in all of gaming, and some people even claim that the follow-up quest, The War Within, is even _better_ (I personally don't agree, it doesn't _quite_ have that same jaw-dropping gut punch impact as the final reveals of The Second Dream, but it's still incredibly epic).
As a veteran who has played since day 1 it was on Steam, even when new people start now, all I say is "get to the second dream, that's when you really understand the game" :P Was mindblowing to be there as it happened, what I love about DE is they go "this is a cool idea...let's just add it", it's so many different things in one experience these days. I just wish the new player experience was a bit better still because it's hard to make people invest in that initial commitment, but anyone I know who has, has never stopped playing since.
I don't think it's as easy to stumble onto the spoiler that easily. First of all it's so ridiculous that u wouldn't assume that it's true unless it's explained to u directly, then there's that operators are invisible in relays and hubs until u do that quest. Also there's the fact that most newbies just don't notice it. Yes you could use the operator in a mission with a newbie, and I'm just speaking from my own experience here, but I accidentally saw an operator in front of me in hydron, and the vet noticed. So he, the gigachad that he was, started moonwalking into the wall and typing in chat that he "got the Cetus child model bug again" and the other two played along as if they were trying to get him to get killed so he could self revive. Another time was in a random squad in the plains at night. 3 people were eidolon hunting, typing in chat about lures and operators. I was flying above them with my archwing and continuesly asking "guys what's an operator?". They completely ignored me thankfully, and I eventually left without even noticing the operators. Call me blind but how many times have u actually looked at ur teammates directly?
@@balbalofficial8212 ...on the other hand, a new player might innocently watch the cinematic trailer for The New War and find themselves asking "Who is this kid that came out of that Warframe, why can she shoot a disintegrating ray from her hands, and why does she have a memory of being carried by the Lotus?" Even DE have pretty much given up on protecting the spoiler these days because the Operator has become so integral to further developments in the game.
@@ArcaneAzmadiit seems like even now, TSD still hits... So perhaps people who are completely unaware aren't connecting the dots, or have forgotten the connection some 100hrs into the game before they reach TSD.
Its always wonderful seeing people experience this quest without any spoilers. When i started the game in 2016, this was how i experienced it too. It really came out of nowhere and every subsequent quest afterward starting with the war within is going to change how you play the game. Cant go into any detail beyond that :) cant wait to hear how you feel about the rest of the story man. Theres so much more to it!
I don't know how but the community is so good at not spoiling this stuff I freaked out at the end of the second dream . I truly wish duviri was either mixed into new war or came after new war as I wouldn't have found out about the drifter beforehand
@@sutton9000 Well, to be fair... *MINOR SPOILERS* At least to my understanding, the Duviri stuff happens before, simultaneously, and after the other events of the main story. That's part of the time paradox nature of it. It's also why after it was introduced it became one of the options for new players to start the game rather than the classic Warframe start, since there's a stable time loop connecting parts of everything. It does shift your perspective on how you're introduced to certain characters, but whether that's for the better or the worse depends on the player's opinion and how the experience felt to them personally. Some might like getting introduced through Duviri first, since they get a stronger connection to some characters, while others might like the other route better as it means there's more mystery to who those characters are.
Here's a spoiler free sunmery of who the Orokin were: many many years into the real life future, humanity expanded beyond earth. A literal golden empire stood all over our solar system. They had a caste system with the Orokin being the highest caste, they saw every normal citizen as below them. And even treated them as experiments. The Orokin went through extreme plastic surgery making their arms assymetrical, their skin blueish grey, their eyes white and they would wear Greek style ropes of white and gold, loving in towers made of ivory and gold. They would also be almost 3 meter tall. And yes they would go to extreme lengths to prove that they are above everyone else. Even cheating death to the cost of their own citizens. (You'll find out more about during the War Within.... It was extremely fucked up). You might have met some of them on Deimos ;) (although they are a lot more reasonable because well... They are infested they are kinda powerless because of it) They created the Sentients, the Infested, the Corpus and the Grineer. You can learn how the Corpus was created by donating these Granun Crowns (you get for killing the Treasurers on board or Corpus ships) to the fontain with his statue on top of it. But in short: Parvos Granam (who you met during the Deadlock Protocol) was a poor peasant under the Orokin Empire. He then stole a gemstone from the city gate. The Orokin saw that and decided to publicky humiliate him and cut of his hand. But he sold the stone fir a shitload of money and started a busines. He made more money and created a capitalist city underneath the Feudal Orokin Empire. Oh he became so rich that he replaced his cut off hand with a golden hand. For the Grineer there'll be lore bits scattered all over the place but they basically clones people to create a lot of free labor. They were then used as soldiers to fight the Sentients during the Old War because the big amount of brute strength they had. But they were done being the genetically inferior disposable workers of the Orokin and started rebelling against them. But 2 Orokin twins who were outcasts hijacked their movement and made it fascist. They became their Queens. And you'll find out about the Infested and the Sentients during the Sacrifice Quest. The Orokin society was also divided into classes. Above all you had The Seven Principles. We know very little about them since they were very secretive to make themselves be as detached from the rest of the population as possible. They wanted to hold so much power that they would feel like that they are gods. Then you had the Executors (there are 2 notable once whose names you should remember: Tuvul and Ballas. ESPECIALLY remember Ballas! You actually heard him talk with Margulis during the Second Dream!) And below them you had the Archimedeans and scientists. The most important one is Albrecht Entrati. If you are grinding for a Necramech (which you need anyway for the New War) you should take a look behind the Necramech vendor. You'll find some logs from this Albrecht Entrati. Listen to those logs! They are gonna be VERY VERY important to everything in this game! Under the archimedeans and scientists you had the general rich powerful asshole Orokin class and under that you had regular normal citizens that were disposable to them. I think this is all?
Another thing of note is that the quest where you get Excal Umbra is where you find out how the first Warframes were made. Not a pretty sight. It’s even important to know about the Zariman Ten Zero and how that shaped the current timeline. Speaking of which, I think that Albrecht Entrati is one of the more interesting characters in the entire series. Basically he made most of the stuff that we see in Warframe possible. At a price.
@@90maducc It's been really long since I played the old story quest so my memory fails me. Is there ever a clear mention of how the "Tenno" came to be? I know how it all happened but I just don't remember if I got the information from a TH-cam video or the actual gameplay in a quest.
@@lumanianilin1198 Tenno were on the Zariman Ten Zero, when it made it just through the void. All the adults went insane, and started killing people. Due to spoilers, I won't go into what happened there, but because of our actions, WE cause Tenno to be be made from the children who were recovered from the failed voyage, and were later taken by Margilis and turned into soldiers. The rest is history.
@@charnor2727Like I said, I KNOW what happened, I just don't remember when I learned it from, if it was from the wiki, a TH-cam video or an in-game cinematic
I played Warframe for more than 2 years before this update dropped, and if you think the lore drop was crazy in today's warframe let me tell you the day one hype was unreal. The game always has been and always will be a public "beta" but this quest was when it stopped feeling like one. This was the 1.0 full release of the game for me and it's been all uphill ever since.
Congrats on beating the tutorial! To clarify some things about the story. From the quest you learn you were on a ship called the Zariman Ten-Zero (hence the name Ten-0, Tenno), when something called the Void Jump Accident happened. It gave you uncontrollable powers. The orokin wanted to kill you because of those powers, but a woman named Margulis, who you hear throught the quest, protected you. She developed Transference as a sort of therapy, where you would be put into a sleep and your mind would be transfered into a vessel that could contain your powers. The Orokin, seeing this as an oppertunity, sought to use you as weapons and control Warframes. Margulis objected to this and they killed her for it. Lotus hid the moon in the void because to protect you from The Sentients. Sentients are weak to void energy, which is why your beam attack does so much damage to them, and why they became unable to have children when they traveled through the void to our solar system (As explained in the Natah quest). Youll get a bunch more details about your past in future quests, but thats a summarization of the details you have been given so far. I would argue that the quests you have ahead of you are even better than this! Enjoy tenno!
@@ashortginger fun fact the first hint to what you learn in this quest is in the codex on rhino prime the codex hides a lot of old lore as thats how they use to tell stories before quest where a thing. also each quest after this one just gets better so enjoy
I've been playing Warframe since the Bo Slide Meta and still to this day, the Second Dream quest had completely changed the way I viewed the game since and finding out about the Reservoir with the cutscene that shows both characters flopping to the ground with visual static is still one of the best moments in gaming ever. And the quests that follow with the Chains of Harrow and the Sacrifice are just as good in terms of lore and world-building.
It's the wordless revelation and the moment of understanding that makes that one of the greatest moments in gaming, as the unknown figure drops limply to the ground and your Warframe suddenly collapses like a puppet with its strings cut... and if you're quick on the uptake, you realise that it's because _that's exactly what it is!_
Chains of harrow felt more like I was playing a horror game than anything else and then the end the quest with that appearance been getting visits almost weekly
I loved the song in this quest "This Is What You Are". I was stoked that they made it the default when in the somatic link/operator room, and even more happy when they added the mandachord and made it a song. It was always the only song I had playing on loop for bgm on my ship until the new Sevagoth pack came out, that song is pretty good too.
@ashortginger take special note of the vocals in the song. I also think the song is an abridged timeline of the Tenno up to and including second dream. The part before the drums is Lotus(the singular voice) speaking to the choir (Tenno) then the drums kick in signaling the Old War. Then the Lotus lulls the Tenno to sleep. And finally the song ends with Lotus waking us up from our Second Dream. The first "dream" being the transference during the Old War against the Sentients.The second being obviously when she protected us by hiding away Lua, aka the Earth's moon.
Keep going on the quest Tenno, your journey had just started, and be prepared to be amazed by the lore of this world, and have your mind blown by the revelations!
It’s so cool as someone a legend 1 player looking back and seeing a Tenno who is so passionate and awe struck by the reveal (keeps ng this comment as spoiler free as I can). I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t even think about it, I treat the operator as my second skin and in some cases there are frames whose kits, without the operator, would feel unfulfilled and lacking. Honestly this video has inspired a slightly jaded player like myself to reflect and appreciate what has lead me here, it’s been a hell of a journey and I’ve done a lot, from helping the ostron, Solaris united, the entrati and everyone else along the way. The world of the game might be pretty easy to notice the additions that time has brought but I really think everything comes together to form a beautiful world and such a good story (even if a certain character with a limited vocabulary get on my nerves). I remember sitting there, going through this quest the day it came out and my brother and I freaking out about it, so much of the world gets blown open with just this quest and it’s like a stone tossed in a still puddle, as soon as the ripple starts there’s no going back, everything else falls into place. This is why I love DE, are they greedy sometimes? Yes, but every company wants to make money. Are they short sighted pretty frequently? Admittedly yes, old de tended to be a bit short sighted, but new de has so far been very thorough in the updates since the introduction of Voruna, the last one that even remotely feels like a content island is Duviri, everything else is nicely done within the star chart. I love this game, it’s a special thing to me, and I love the devs for staying so devoted to it and trying their best to make the game fit the vision they began with. Here’s to another decade Warframe
We argued for years over whether or not the 'player' was actually inside the WarFrame or not, with evidence supporting both arguements. (Such as Lotus being sad about Mirage's death). When this dropped it was insane. Skill Up said it best in his review, an absolute master stroke. I believe this was also where the connection was made with the name Tenno and the Zariman 10-0. Another great piece of world building lore connection.
As a long time Warframe vet it still brings a smile to my face when people haven't been spoiled and experience it the way it was intended. See you around eh Tenno?
Yeah this quest is exceptional. Not only is it a great reveal in itself but it is also masterfully crafted. The music gets you in the perfect mindset. It is not uncommon to hear people talk about how they were in tears during this quest and a huge part of the is how powerful the music is. The timing of the events in the throw you from surprise to confusion and on into curiosity. And that in the span of about 5 seconds. The question goes from 'who is that?' to 'Is that me?' And while your certainty grows it is only when the child reaches the warframe and places its hand on the it that you are certain. But there are more surprises and mysteries. The near confirmation that the Stalker is itself a Tenno. The Lotus is a real person. What are the warframes? How can it act on its own? Why does the Stalker hate you so much? It is worth noting that before this quest came out there was a lot of speculation on what the Warframes were and who we were. Were they suits we put on to go fighting? This idea ran into the problem that different warframes had different genders. So were we controlling them remotely? Well then why would they not look more like robots similar to the ones the corpus have? As I recall there ended up being two schools of thought on what we were playing. One group thought that the warframes were robots remotely controlled by our character and that the look of the warframes was a stylistic choice. Another group believed we were not actually playing an individual but rather that each warframe was the personal suit of a separate person. So in effect we were playing a whole group of people. And then BAM 'Second Dream'. Seemingly answering all our questions. And yet it only really answers one of them and that one not fully. There are still so many questions...... so you know... good luck with that.
Hunhow was actually first shown in the New Strange iirc but first named in the Natah quest. He is the father of the Lotus (Natah). The sentients hate the Orokin, and in turn the Tenno. And the Orokin were human, for the most part. They were the ruling class in their empire. The Tenno are not directly orokin but they were members of their empire. As for the ship mentioned, the Zariman 10-0, it was a colony ship that was supposed to jump to Tau Ceti. Although things had gone horribly wrong. The ship was missing for years, until it randomly appeared one day from the Void. The only ones aboard being the Children. Margulis, the woman heard whilst on Lua, was the one to take pity upon these oprhaned misfits. She was a mother figure to them all, even if they burned and blinded her sometimes. She had eventually developed Transference with the help of Archimedian Sylvana, although shes not important later
What i love even more about this quest is how the cracks were there from the beginning. Before i started the second dream i was scrolling through warframes and gauss caught my eye. I was like "how can a guy fit in that thing? Arent his feet too small for that?" And just... ignored it, somehow. Same with octavia and wisp. Like i straight up didn't even question it. like a dream. This was before frames like xaku, citrine and dagath were in the game. I can't imagine how a baby tenno might stumble across dagath who has no face, or xaku which is literally just a spooky skeleton.
Having played since early Beta this quest was mindblowing to me.. Warframe was a standard looter shooter up until this point where it really kicked in an actual story behind the madness. I love it to this day.
Dude, getting to the character creation screen after over a thousand hours was surreal when this quest first came out. It was great. Looking forward to seeing you do the other quests.
its generally more than 25 hours, which is amazing because at that point you are just starting to get past the enjoyment of the grind and then this monster of a quest changes everything and pulls you in.
A while ago, the game's developers announced plans to release a purchasable pack that lets players skip story quests so they can access the latest content immediately. The intent was to let veterans invite new friends to play alongside them, but there instantly was a lot of pushback from nearly everyone, and they very quickly announced that this story-skip pack would no longer be released. This video explains exactly why this pack would have been a bad thing. The Second Dream is one of the greatest moments in any MMO game; its ending is the defining scene of the entire game. Every player deserves to get to see this amazing moment.
Man, are you in for a treat... Warframe's story is not only gargantuan, it is an *insanely* well-written exploration of identity and purpose. This little space-ninja game truly has some of the most personally touching moments I have ever had in a videogame, right up there with Nier: Automata, if not exceeding it. One thing I do want to mention, is that the Lotus did not phase the moon into the Void by her own power. Humans - which are also called "The Orokin," just to clear that up for you, it's the name of the old human empire - built that giant cage around the moon to allow it to travel around the star system and protect itself from invasion. All the Lotus did after the Old War concluded was just turn its engine on and phase it permanently into the Void with herself, and us, still on board. Really looking forward to more videos from you as you progress along your Warframe journey. You are just getting started, my friend. You're only just now awake, Tenno; now the real work begins!
Having played Warframe since 2013 long before this quest ever existed by the time i got the end of it i was sitting at my computer feeling kinda like i'd been punched in the gut and thinking "What the fuck just happened?". This quest took every theory, thought and expectation I had about what a Warframe was and who the Tenno were and just blew them all into millions of little pieces.
Playing these quests as they dropped was earth shattering. I had to become an actor for AGES until my friends caught up with the quests so i could finally talk about them. You could read up stuff in the cephalon fragments, but honestly, playing the quests first and then reading up on the entries felt much better.
All I can really say, is just wait. This was only the beginning, and honestly is such a small, but still significant, part of the story experience that so many great moments build off of.
As my friend and I like to say, you found where the budget kicks in. To this day that quest is nesr and dear to my heart. Can't wait for you to play The Sacrifice and Chains of Harrow
I remember when I did this quest, I think I actually was in shock the whole time lol, mouth wide open. I wouldn't call myself anywhere close to a veteran but I have 260 hours at this point, wish I remembered how many I had at the time. Yeah this quest solidified Warframe as one of my favorite games, even if i stop for a while I ALWAYS come back to it, the movement and story are too good! I'm also glad you weren't spoiled, luckily I wasn't either, I had seen someone walk around as operator but I thought it was just a Warframe ability...lol
I was playing for years, on and off just for the gameplay. Didn't expect anything from quests and then boom... when I finished second dream my mind was blown and anytime I see someone else doing it I tear up. Crazy experience 😅
You're absolutely correct about players loosing their collective minds when this initially dropped. I was there day 1. Region chat was fun. We weren't entirely in the dark on the concept of Tenno. The first lore bits mentioning Zariman and children who got out of it full of power were attached to early Prime Warframes, but it was not clear whether Warframes were grafted around tenno, or there was some other connection. Second Dream was the first ever mention of "Transference", so this quest successfully blew our minds and the hype around story content following it was incredible for a while.
The second dream was the BEST, I was kinda aware of the existence of the Operator thanks to MatPat's game theory. But I didn't really know when or how it would be included. Then I did this and had to deal with suddenly getting a whole new character, the "Pilot" if you would. I was blown away by the idea that the operator would be an actual character to play, something to kinda link all the different "playable characters", yet in and of itself stands on it's own. the series just gets more wild. Personally I'd say War Within and The Sacrifice are the most 'ground shattering' to me, but this was the start of the secrets being discovered. 100+ hours into my game.
True Masterpiece. The soundtrack still hits so hard. Imagine learning 7-8 years ago that the real power is the person inside Warframe, and you get to play as that. Tenno, this is what you are.
The amount of just scratching the surface of this game that's in this video is impressive, and oh my goodness am I always excited to see young Tenno realizing slowly what's going on in the story behind the scenes of this game.
Nowadays warframe is so fast that you just get to this quest so early you don't get to experience much of the game or start questioning the things going on around you, but back in the day it was SO MONUMENTAL, it gave answers to so many things that have been speculating and mining lore in this game for 4 years. Unfortunately nowadays it doesn't have the charm, the mistery and suspense from when it came out, but I'm glad I was there.
Man I'm so glad that warframe is getting the recognition that it needed now days. Like warframe was my first game that I played and was so fun just running through everything and looking at everything. And what gets me even more hyped up is that were seeing even more story quest which could lead to surprises.
I have spent 6k hours in this game (and counting), and this quest brings tears to my eyes, so many memories. Subbed and will look forward to seeing you grow, Tenno!
As an old Destiny 2 player with thousands of hours played I can confidently say that I wish those hours went into warframe. Warframe is my favorite game and I never feel like I’m wasting time when I play it. So many activities that are all rewarding in some way and the movement is the best I’ve ever experience in a game.
What you also need to know is that this quest took a lot of time to make. I remember seeing plans for inclusion of focus in update 14, and that is year and a half ago. And the best thing, we didn't even know what was awaiting us. DE marketed this quest as something that will explain who is Stalker, and we did get some of that, bat that was not what was important after you completed the quest. You found what you are, you found why children from Zarimann were important enough to be included in the codex entries of some Primes.
I was playing it almost from day one, back in the days where tons of stuff was much different. Playing it for years, and than seeing the actual very first in-mission cinematic play was already big, it felt HUGE, like a high budget cinematic! And we lived the entire time thinking we indeed were super suits. Stuff did get wierd when we got frames like Titania or Atlas, who's body structure doesn't leave much human to live inside, but it didn't bothered us too much. But than this small cinematic with the child... That was absolutely mindblowing. I spent at least half of an hour creating my character right after that and grasping what I just witnessed.
Look forward to the upcoming cinematic quests. They get better and better. But yes, the second dream is the master stroke. Also I laughed when you mentioned someone playing for a bunch of years and then hitting character creation screen... You're right! It was surreal.
I've been playing Warframe since the beginning and man that mission was an amazing experience for me, I may not play Warframe as often as I did back in the days but this game will always have a place in my heart because all the great memories, and I always recommmend this game to friends
2014 player here; Yes, it was a very breathe taking moment when after 4 years, we finally got this quest and got to explore so much lore and confirm so many rumors behind the Tenno and the Warframes themselves! ❤️
If you lost your mind during this quest, prepare to loose the whole head and maybe the upper torso with the twists and turns they throw at you later. It's gonna be a wild ride!
Oh *brother* you have so much ahead. Eldritch entities, pocket dimensions, mastering your *true* powers, maturing, growing, fighting in a war, learning what *warframes* actually are. Supposedly the next upcoming story arc after the current one involves time travel???
The New War, The Sacrifice, The War Within quest, are gonna be a joy ride for you. The Second Dream is what kicks off the true past of the Tenno, Warframes, and just what the Orokin were capable of, why the Tenno was so important to controlling the Warframes. I have completed every single quest in the game, Mastery 18, and it only gets better from there. This quest, was the true tutorial of the game, and now, you will see the game in a new way, when you do The Sacrifice, you will see the warframes in a new light, you will see them differently, and understand just what it means to control the Warframe, and feel new emotions when you look at them. DE has outdone themselves with how the player experience truly begins from this point on. I hope you enjoy the game, and enjoy just how the world opens up from this point onward.
I went blind when I started playing Warframe a year ago. But man, I did not just expect a stellar lore and story-telling. All I expected is a looter-shooter with cool customization. This quest made me fall in love with Warframe. And it is indeed one of the most memorable gaming moments I've ever exerienced. And the funny thing is, there are more quests in Warframe that gav me the same feeling. I highly recommend Warframe for both combat ANd lore/story lovers. This game offers both.
Oh and the quest involving "umbra". I forget the name but you need to pay attention in that quest. It explains what the warframes are and how they are made
I remember playing it back when it first came out. I had been playing Warframe for around two years already so I didn't know much of the lore. Just little nuggets here and there. However; Finding out I was a child was a complete shock to me and then being able to customize said child was such a brilliant move on DE's part. The sacrifice quest was also another shocker to me. The frames themselves can be made from humans by using the infected virus such as in the case of Excalibur Umbra. Because some frames couldn't be controlled, the children found on the Zariman Ten 0 (Tenno) --The Zariman was a colony ship which had a void jump accident and caused its inhabitants to be left stranded--were used to control the beasts in their experiments because they had acquired the ability to use void powers. Check out Rhino's and Ember's codex entries.
As someone who's been playing since the game had stamina (open beta), and off & on since. It was a paradigm shift to go from a faceless flesh-mech to having a character and you'll see it develop as you go through the rest of the questlines with crazier and more intriguing plotlines. Enjoy them to the fullest.
Killing it bro! I had PlayStation and FF7 when I was 9 and man did I cry when Aeris died LoL. I can relate to this content because I'm done with Destiny and looking for other games. I haven't played anything in a while and I'll try to clean out my PS4 fan and download Warframe. I'll probably have to get something new. That things old. Anyways, have a good one friend!
wow I havent played warframe in a long time but I did play that quest when it came out and had the same experience/feelings about how good the story was... I got the same goosebumps as when I played the quest when I found out your video was about that specific quest
I was in a very similar spoiler-free place when i started playing in 2020. This revelation blew my freakin mind.. I just can't express it. So much more ahead for you. The writing and world building is outstanding. I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions on future story beats.
The fact that you weren't spoiled about the quest - like with others - in my opinion speaks in volumes about how the community respects it and its impact. It will not be the only quest that will completely flip your expectations. However, there is a lot of lore to unpack that you can find. Some of it is also in the Codex, which is worth investigating if you have a few minutes waiting for something like a response in chat or for a big pack of ciphers to cook in the foundry. Some frames - and even enemies - have information in their Codex entry, ranging from a few sentences to a lore tab.
Prior to this Quest, the name Tenno was a link to the game Dark Sector where you played Hayden Tenno, who early on gets access to a Proto-Excalibur Suit. I believe one of the boss fights is against a Proto Nyx suit-wearing person. It's been so long since I played that game. I think early on people thought that you were a descendant of Hayden. So more than flipping the game on its head with the introduction of the Operator it also undid everything people thought they knew about the links between Dark Sector and Warframe. Now the only relic of that currently is the Dark Sector nodes on the Star chart. And now with Warframe 1999 it looks like they are going back and maybe rewriting those links in a whole new way.
Getting spoiled on this moment actually brought me back to the game, and it was entirely worth the time. Warframe's main quests are not afraid to upset the status quo. There's twists and turns and big reveals aplenty. It's really ballsy storytelling, so it's a shame so many people fall off before experiencing it.
Great video and yes tenno schools do give bonuses and as a new player you're going to want to prioritize zenerik if you upgrade the school far enough it will give you a passive 5 energy regeneration a second for 30+ seconds
WARFRAME!! I absolutely LOVE that people are still enjoying this game and being blown away by this quest. because its not just a quest... its an experience. (I don't mean to sound so artsy. but its a great game)
On Trust me, your gonna love the rest of the main story quest, especially quest like chains of harrow (who isn’t main story but it’s good), the sacrifice, new war, and whispers in the wall to name a few. Trust me most quest that come after second dream is really good and you’ll love the game even more. Glad to see others having fun with this game
I was spoiled by someone about this quest even before start playing this game, but actually doing it? Stars, it was beautiful. I still remember the surprise seeing the my Tenno for the first time. And the next quests may be better in quality, but The Second Dream will always have a place in my hearth.
I've played since the closed beta and when the Tenno/Operator puts his/her hand on the Warframe and restarts it I almost fell of my chair... everything I'd read from the lore was trying to fall in place in my head as I was trying to make sense of it all. That was masterfully done by D.E. writers as they probably didn't know where they were going when they wrote the first lines of lore you can find in the Warframe descriptions in the Codex (Mag, Ember, Rhino...).
I have a little more over 700H on warframe at the time of writting this comment. It's great to hear you got to experience it spoiler free. Warframe is one of my favorite pc games and it's nice to see new players still having a blast with it.
Its so funny that his mind is blown with this quest Like a few months later he is going to release the exact same video but talking about the sacrifice and then yet another video talking about the new war My dude, you are in for one hell of a ride and the secobd dream is just the beginning
I remember when I got to the character screen that I bought some cosmetics because I thought that when I exited it that that would be my character for the rest of the game. Imagine my surprise when I found out you can just change your character whenever you like.
Had a genuine belly laugh there for a second. "Seventy to eighty hours in... that's a really long time." Oh, you sweet summer child. Not laughing at you mind. Just genuinely amused at thinking back what I thought at that approximate time spent. Not far off five thousand at this point. Glad to see you're enjoying the story. Have fun!
I remember when this came out, this quest single-handedly turned every player at the time into lore nerds. We HAD to know what exactly was going on here. Why are we children. What did this all mean... It really changed everything for everyone. And I'm glad that even now, some 9 years later which btw holy hell it's been 9yrs since TSD... Even now, it still strikes true for new Tenno. You're in for one hell of a ride buddy.
warframe is THE SHIT, ive been playing this game since 2013/2014 and i still love it. I'm currently working on getting my last 3 prime warframes, still have alot of weapons to craft, and stuck at mastery level 29 cause the test is too hard. but if anyone wants some help hit me up, I'm always in the game.
as someone who played from beta, not really diving into the lore. also assuming the frames were suits. i probably had around 1000 hours when i played the second dream quest, and honestly it might be the biggest revelation i have ever experienced in a game. I didn't know, but i had an inkling about what i would find. but when that pod opened, and my frame fell to it's knees, i fucking SCREAMED. it was a genuinely insane experience.
I cannot wait to see you make a video about the new war. It in my opinion is the real optimy of what this game has to offer. Nearly 4 hours of gameplay that flips everything you knew about the game and gives you, the player, the chance to pariticpate a planitarry war. Can't say much more without spoilers but mark my words, your jaw will be on the floor.
Update! I have just finished The War Within and my GOSH was that so cool. very, very different from anything in the game at this point, loved being surprised with new mechanics.
Vid NOW
Warframe's cinematic quests are a treasure trove of splendor.
I still remember my very first playthrough of the Second Dream all the way back when it first released and I'll never forget it
Wait till you go through Chains of Harrow and get haunted by the man in the wall. Angles of the Zariman will revolve around the space ship where the tenno got their void powers in the first place. The New War will simply blow your mind as it's gonna be a quest at the grandest scale as the sentients return for a rematch after the Old War you hear about lore wise. It might take you up to 5 or 6 hours to complete that epic story line. The New War and The Duviri Paradox provide interesting context for each other. Then there's Whispers In The Walls that revolves around the Lovecraftian void entity you're introduced to during Chains Of Harrow.
Honourable mentions for The Sacrifice that gets you a version of Excalibur that has free will along with an emotional story about how comes this warframe is so one-of-a-kind. And also The Call Of The Tempestarii which is quite a treat when you get to hear the first and as of yet only sea shanty in the game. Or rather, space shanty which is btw very catchy and even more epic than We All Lift Together.
Point is, you're in for quite the ride tenno.
Ikr, like all the different characters and gameplay styles you get to try is so cool.
Am about to build my necramech and start the new war but for some reason Deimos keeps crashing my pc and Its only Deimos.
And here we are, 8 years after the release of the questline and to this day the community is incredibly protective of not spoiling it for new players. It's THAT good of an experience.
When a game can impact you like warframe does, just by telling it's story, you won't want anyone miss out the experience
when you help a baby tenno and wana fast jump to other side of map but you dont do it bcs you cant use operator now xd
Yup I still always check levels of people in my squad just in case :)
Best game community I’ve ever been a part of FRFR and I’m an old man lol
Each subsequent cinematic quest becomes more... well, cinematic than the last. The next one (The War Within) is an epic ride!
It’s just unfortunate that with the more cinematic it becomes, the longer it takes til we get the next story beat
@@NEWGHOST9 True, but it's still better that they do take so long to keep giving us great moments, rather than try to rush it like some games do and cause it all to fall flat.
_Rap... tap... tap..._
_Rap... tap... tap..._
_Rap... tap... tap..._
*Rap! Tap! Tap!*
*The Man... in the Wall...!*
Shit, I still remember the scare I got from this quest@@ArcaneAzmadi
@@ArcaneAzmadi *You should've left it well enough alone, kiddo! It'll NEVER get BETTER if you KEEP. ON. PICKING. AT. IT*
i actually remember when i played this back when it was released. it took me a whole minute to process the ending arc.
i am not Rhino, i am not Excalibur, i am not Ember, I am not Nova. I am a tenno.
and the best part of this quest is players make a general consensus that nobody should spoil this quest for new players.
and its been 8 WHOLE YEARS!!
we probably still not giving second dream spoilers years later
@@menosgenerade6697Exactly! I am part of a fairly large clan and we have a group of new players in there. One of our rules is that when it comes to second dream and most stories in Warframe, nobody can spoil a thing. We can guide, make sure going in right direction, not making newbie mistakes if can help it. But the rule of no spoiling is held to such a high regard, that if someone does it, its not even a warning. Thankfully, only 2 or 3 have been kicked for spoiling content.
Even with Duviri and another marketing showing the Operator, I will think it's vague enough that it doesn't spoil new players.
I still refuse to use my operator in front of anyone under rank 8. Back in the day when we had much fewer options for energy it was a pain to pop energy pizzas instead of using zenurik dash for energy (which is now an ability instead).
People want the same experience like they did.
Sadly there rare few who doesn't care, I mean the type who doesn't care story, I don't understand these people...
Anyways, story bring so much power, it even give motivation to keep going.
Trust me, it goes SO much deeper. You're entering into the meat of one of the best sci-fi stories ever told
If you think everything you know has been flipped on its head now, the rest of the New War quest line will really be something for you. The Sacrifice is one of the quests that I replay every so often due to impactful it is.
Same, the sacrifice is such a great quest, story, setup for future stories, and dialog is all stellar.
The ball ass arc
I have the sacrifice quest ringtone.
Some of my favorite quotes are from this quest and every so often I talk with people about movies, books and video games and I just want to let them play this quest because no word can destribe it properly.
Shame that New War dropped all this storytelling with amazing potential for something so rushed and trivial. They didnt resolve anything in a meaningful way.
i want people who played up to this quest only recently, keep in mind this quest wasn't in the game on initial release. it was released almost 2 years after launch, and there where only vague hints to the Zariman accident in some lore bits on some of the frames (that i think got removed), sort of like what the Fromsoft Souls games do with its item descriptions holding hidden lore, though not as well done as Fromsoft. so you spent 2 years, or more if you were playing some of the early game betas, wondering what was going on.
They're still there last I checked just largely ignored in favor of the new nonsense.
It was only 3 years, but yes, we _did_ lose our minds when this quest dropped. The Second Dream is the reason Warframe has a firm position on my list of my favourite games _of all time._ SkillUp did an entire video analysing this one (without actually spoiling anything) and he used the word "masterstroke"- the one little brilliant twist that turns a piece of art into a masterpiece. It's much harder for new players to be unspoiled these days, what with Operators being casually discussed in-game and in the promotional material, but it's still taboo for Warframe veterans to spoil the twist of The Second Dream for a newbie. One of THE greatest experiences in all of gaming, and some people even claim that the follow-up quest, The War Within, is even _better_ (I personally don't agree, it doesn't _quite_ have that same jaw-dropping gut punch impact as the final reveals of The Second Dream, but it's still incredibly epic).
As a veteran who has played since day 1 it was on Steam, even when new people start now, all I say is "get to the second dream, that's when you really understand the game" :P Was mindblowing to be there as it happened, what I love about DE is they go "this is a cool idea...let's just add it", it's so many different things in one experience these days. I just wish the new player experience was a bit better still because it's hard to make people invest in that initial commitment, but anyone I know who has, has never stopped playing since.
I don't think it's as easy to stumble onto the spoiler that easily. First of all it's so ridiculous that u wouldn't assume that it's true unless it's explained to u directly, then there's that operators are invisible in relays and hubs until u do that quest. Also there's the fact that most newbies just don't notice it.
Yes you could use the operator in a mission with a newbie, and I'm just speaking from my own experience here, but I accidentally saw an operator in front of me in hydron, and the vet noticed. So he, the gigachad that he was, started moonwalking into the wall and typing in chat that he "got the Cetus child model bug again" and the other two played along as if they were trying to get him to get killed so he could self revive.
Another time was in a random squad in the plains at night. 3 people were eidolon hunting, typing in chat about lures and operators. I was flying above them with my archwing and continuesly asking "guys what's an operator?". They completely ignored me thankfully, and I eventually left without even noticing the operators. Call me blind but how many times have u actually looked at ur teammates directly?
@@balbalofficial8212 ...on the other hand, a new player might innocently watch the cinematic trailer for The New War and find themselves asking "Who is this kid that came out of that Warframe, why can she shoot a disintegrating ray from her hands, and why does she have a memory of being carried by the Lotus?" Even DE have pretty much given up on protecting the spoiler these days because the Operator has become so integral to further developments in the game.
@@ArcaneAzmadiit seems like even now, TSD still hits... So perhaps people who are completely unaware aren't connecting the dots, or have forgotten the connection some 100hrs into the game before they reach TSD.
Its always wonderful seeing people experience this quest without any spoilers. When i started the game in 2016, this was how i experienced it too. It really came out of nowhere and every subsequent quest afterward starting with the war within is going to change how you play the game. Cant go into any detail beyond that :) cant wait to hear how you feel about the rest of the story man. Theres so much more to it!
I don't know how but the community is so good at not spoiling this stuff I freaked out at the end of the second dream . I truly wish duviri was either mixed into new war or came after new war as I wouldn't have found out about the drifter beforehand
@@sutton9000 Well, to be fair... *MINOR SPOILERS*
At least to my understanding, the Duviri stuff happens before, simultaneously, and after the other events of the main story. That's part of the time paradox nature of it. It's also why after it was introduced it became one of the options for new players to start the game rather than the classic Warframe start, since there's a stable time loop connecting parts of everything.
It does shift your perspective on how you're introduced to certain characters, but whether that's for the better or the worse depends on the player's opinion and how the experience felt to them personally. Some might like getting introduced through Duviri first, since they get a stronger connection to some characters, while others might like the other route better as it means there's more mystery to who those characters are.
The second dream is how warframe went from an already fun game about space ninjas doing space ninja things to so much more.
After I finished the new war, i felt like i played a $60 game for free. It was epic. Also don't forget to do the duviri questline :)
OH I keep forgetting to do the duviri stuff
The amount of content the game gives you for *absolutely free* is godly. Love this game.
@@ashortgingerhold off on that until after new war
@@sutton9000or right before.
duviri after the new war, it would be bad if he played it the paradox after the second dream
Here's a spoiler free sunmery of who the Orokin were: many many years into the real life future, humanity expanded beyond earth. A literal golden empire stood all over our solar system. They had a caste system with the Orokin being the highest caste, they saw every normal citizen as below them. And even treated them as experiments. The Orokin went through extreme plastic surgery making their arms assymetrical, their skin blueish grey, their eyes white and they would wear Greek style ropes of white and gold, loving in towers made of ivory and gold. They would also be almost 3 meter tall. And yes they would go to extreme lengths to prove that they are above everyone else. Even cheating death to the cost of their own citizens. (You'll find out more about during the War Within.... It was extremely fucked up). You might have met some of them on Deimos ;) (although they are a lot more reasonable because well... They are infested they are kinda powerless because of it) They created the Sentients, the Infested, the Corpus and the Grineer. You can learn how the Corpus was created by donating these Granun Crowns (you get for killing the Treasurers on board or Corpus ships) to the fontain with his statue on top of it. But in short: Parvos Granam (who you met during the Deadlock Protocol) was a poor peasant under the Orokin Empire. He then stole a gemstone from the city gate. The Orokin saw that and decided to publicky humiliate him and cut of his hand. But he sold the stone fir a shitload of money and started a busines. He made more money and created a capitalist city underneath the Feudal Orokin Empire. Oh he became so rich that he replaced his cut off hand with a golden hand. For the Grineer there'll be lore bits scattered all over the place but they basically clones people to create a lot of free labor. They were then used as soldiers to fight the Sentients during the Old War because the big amount of brute strength they had. But they were done being the genetically inferior disposable workers of the Orokin and started rebelling against them. But 2 Orokin twins who were outcasts hijacked their movement and made it fascist. They became their Queens. And you'll find out about the Infested and the Sentients during the Sacrifice Quest.
The Orokin society was also divided into classes. Above all you had The Seven Principles. We know very little about them since they were very secretive to make themselves be as detached from the rest of the population as possible. They wanted to hold so much power that they would feel like that they are gods. Then you had the Executors (there are 2 notable once whose names you should remember: Tuvul and Ballas. ESPECIALLY remember Ballas! You actually heard him talk with Margulis during the Second Dream!) And below them you had the Archimedeans and scientists. The most important one is Albrecht Entrati. If you are grinding for a Necramech (which you need anyway for the New War) you should take a look behind the Necramech vendor. You'll find some logs from this Albrecht Entrati. Listen to those logs! They are gonna be VERY VERY important to everything in this game!
Under the archimedeans and scientists you had the general rich powerful asshole Orokin class and under that you had regular normal citizens that were disposable to them.
I think this is all?
Another thing of note is that the quest where you get Excal Umbra is where you find out how the first Warframes were made. Not a pretty sight. It’s even important to know about the Zariman Ten Zero and how that shaped the current timeline.
Speaking of which, I think that Albrecht Entrati is one of the more interesting characters in the entire series. Basically he made most of the stuff that we see in Warframe possible. At a price.
the tl:dr is everything is Ballus fault :P
@@90maducc It's been really long since I played the old story quest so my memory fails me. Is there ever a clear mention of how the "Tenno" came to be? I know how it all happened but I just don't remember if I got the information from a TH-cam video or the actual gameplay in a quest.
@@lumanianilin1198 Tenno were on the Zariman Ten Zero, when it made it just through the void. All the adults went insane, and started killing people. Due to spoilers, I won't go into what happened there, but because of our actions, WE cause Tenno to be be made from the children who were recovered from the failed voyage, and were later taken by Margilis and turned into soldiers. The rest is history.
@@charnor2727Like I said, I KNOW what happened, I just don't remember when I learned it from, if it was from the wiki, a TH-cam video or an in-game cinematic
I played Warframe for more than 2 years before this update dropped, and if you think the lore drop was crazy in today's warframe let me tell you the day one hype was unreal. The game always has been and always will be a public "beta" but this quest was when it stopped feeling like one. This was the 1.0 full release of the game for me and it's been all uphill ever since.
I remember as well. It seriously changed everything.
Congrats on beating the tutorial! To clarify some things about the story. From the quest you learn you were on a ship called the Zariman Ten-Zero (hence the name Ten-0, Tenno), when something called the Void Jump Accident happened. It gave you uncontrollable powers. The orokin wanted to kill you because of those powers, but a woman named Margulis, who you hear throught the quest, protected you. She developed Transference as a sort of therapy, where you would be put into a sleep and your mind would be transfered into a vessel that could contain your powers. The Orokin, seeing this as an oppertunity, sought to use you as weapons and control Warframes. Margulis objected to this and they killed her for it.
Lotus hid the moon in the void because to protect you from The Sentients. Sentients are weak to void energy, which is why your beam attack does so much damage to them, and why they became unable to have children when they traveled through the void to our solar system (As explained in the Natah quest).
Youll get a bunch more details about your past in future quests, but thats a summarization of the details you have been given so far. I would argue that the quests you have ahead of you are even better than this! Enjoy tenno!
thank you! this was a great summary that I will definitely be referring to in the future ha
@@ashortginger fun fact the first hint to what you learn in this quest is in the codex on rhino prime the codex hides a lot of old lore as thats how they use to tell stories before quest where a thing. also each quest after this one just gets better so enjoy
I've been playing Warframe since the Bo Slide Meta and still to this day, the Second Dream quest had completely changed the way I viewed the game since and finding out about the Reservoir with the cutscene that shows both characters flopping to the ground with visual static is still one of the best moments in gaming ever. And the quests that follow with the Chains of Harrow and the Sacrifice are just as good in terms of lore and world-building.
It's the wordless revelation and the moment of understanding that makes that one of the greatest moments in gaming, as the unknown figure drops limply to the ground and your Warframe suddenly collapses like a puppet with its strings cut... and if you're quick on the uptake, you realise that it's because _that's exactly what it is!_
Chains of harrow felt more like I was playing a horror game than anything else and then the end the quest with that appearance been getting visits almost weekly
OLD! OLD! OLD!
I loved the song in this quest "This Is What You Are". I was stoked that they made it the default when in the somatic link/operator room, and even more happy when they added the mandachord and made it a song. It was always the only song I had playing on loop for bgm on my ship until the new Sevagoth pack came out, that song is pretty good too.
that song was actually one of the things that got me into the game initially! and now it just hits even more
@ashortginger take special note of the vocals in the song. I also think the song is an abridged timeline of the Tenno up to and including second dream. The part before the drums is Lotus(the singular voice) speaking to the choir (Tenno) then the drums kick in signaling the Old War. Then the Lotus lulls the Tenno to sleep. And finally the song ends with Lotus waking us up from our Second Dream. The first "dream" being the transference during the Old War against the Sentients.The second being obviously when she protected us by hiding away Lua, aka the Earth's moon.
Keep going on the quest Tenno, your journey had just started, and be prepared to be amazed by the lore of this world, and have your mind blown by the revelations!
It’s so cool as someone a legend 1 player looking back and seeing a Tenno who is so passionate and awe struck by the reveal (keeps ng this comment as spoiler free as I can). I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t even think about it, I treat the operator as my second skin and in some cases there are frames whose kits, without the operator, would feel unfulfilled and lacking. Honestly this video has inspired a slightly jaded player like myself to reflect and appreciate what has lead me here, it’s been a hell of a journey and I’ve done a lot, from helping the ostron, Solaris united, the entrati and everyone else along the way. The world of the game might be pretty easy to notice the additions that time has brought but I really think everything comes together to form a beautiful world and such a good story (even if a certain character with a limited vocabulary get on my nerves). I remember sitting there, going through this quest the day it came out and my brother and I freaking out about it, so much of the world gets blown open with just this quest and it’s like a stone tossed in a still puddle, as soon as the ripple starts there’s no going back, everything else falls into place. This is why I love DE, are they greedy sometimes? Yes, but every company wants to make money. Are they short sighted pretty frequently? Admittedly yes, old de tended to be a bit short sighted, but new de has so far been very thorough in the updates since the introduction of Voruna, the last one that even remotely feels like a content island is Duviri, everything else is nicely done within the star chart. I love this game, it’s a special thing to me, and I love the devs for staying so devoted to it and trying their best to make the game fit the vision they began with. Here’s to another decade Warframe
We argued for years over whether or not the 'player' was actually inside the WarFrame or not, with evidence supporting both arguements. (Such as Lotus being sad about Mirage's death).
When this dropped it was insane. Skill Up said it best in his review, an absolute master stroke.
I believe this was also where the connection was made with the name Tenno and the Zariman 10-0. Another great piece of world building lore connection.
skill up's review is one i revisit often, definitely inspired me to get into the game/ make this video!
As a long time Warframe vet it still brings a smile to my face when people haven't been spoiled and experience it the way it was intended. See you around eh Tenno?
Yeah this quest is exceptional. Not only is it a great reveal in itself but it is also masterfully crafted. The music gets you in the perfect mindset. It is not uncommon to hear people talk about how they were in tears during this quest and a huge part of the is how powerful the music is. The timing of the events in the throw you from surprise to confusion and on into curiosity. And that in the span of about 5 seconds. The question goes from 'who is that?' to 'Is that me?' And while your certainty grows it is only when the child reaches the warframe and places its hand on the it that you are certain.
But there are more surprises and mysteries. The near confirmation that the Stalker is itself a Tenno. The Lotus is a real person. What are the warframes? How can it act on its own? Why does the Stalker hate you so much?
It is worth noting that before this quest came out there was a lot of speculation on what the Warframes were and who we were. Were they suits we put on to go fighting? This idea ran into the problem that different warframes had different genders. So were we controlling them remotely? Well then why would they not look more like robots similar to the ones the corpus have? As I recall there ended up being two schools of thought on what we were playing. One group thought that the warframes were robots remotely controlled by our character and that the look of the warframes was a stylistic choice. Another group believed we were not actually playing an individual but rather that each warframe was the personal suit of a separate person. So in effect we were playing a whole group of people. And then BAM 'Second Dream'. Seemingly answering all our questions. And yet it only really answers one of them and that one not fully.
There are still so many questions...... so you know... good luck with that.
Hunhow was actually first shown in the New Strange iirc but first named in the Natah quest. He is the father of the Lotus (Natah). The sentients hate the Orokin, and in turn the Tenno.
And the Orokin were human, for the most part. They were the ruling class in their empire. The Tenno are not directly orokin but they were members of their empire. As for the ship mentioned, the Zariman 10-0, it was a colony ship that was supposed to jump to Tau Ceti. Although things had gone horribly wrong. The ship was missing for years, until it randomly appeared one day from the Void. The only ones aboard being the Children.
Margulis, the woman heard whilst on Lua, was the one to take pity upon these oprhaned misfits. She was a mother figure to them all, even if they burned and blinded her sometimes. She had eventually developed Transference with the help of Archimedian Sylvana, although shes not important later
What i love even more about this quest is how the cracks were there from the beginning. Before i started the second dream i was scrolling through warframes and gauss caught my eye. I was like "how can a guy fit in that thing? Arent his feet too small for that?" And just... ignored it, somehow. Same with octavia and wisp. Like i straight up didn't even question it. like a dream.
This was before frames like xaku, citrine and dagath were in the game. I can't imagine how a baby tenno might stumble across dagath who has no face, or xaku which is literally just a spooky skeleton.
Having played since early Beta this quest was mindblowing to me.. Warframe was a standard looter shooter up until this point where it really kicked in an actual story behind the madness. I love it to this day.
Dude, getting to the character creation screen after over a thousand hours was surreal when this quest first came out. It was great. Looking forward to seeing you do the other quests.
The sheer balls to lock the 2nd act behind dozens of hours of gameplay (probably around 20-25 for most) is what makes this quest stand out.
I'd argue more like 50-80 with how many "distractions" the game has.
its generally more than 25 hours, which is amazing because at that point you are just starting to get past the enjoyment of the grind and then this monster of a quest changes everything and pulls you in.
At the end of the second dream, you realize you've completed the Warframe tutorial, it's perfect
A while ago, the game's developers announced plans to release a purchasable pack that lets players skip story quests so they can access the latest content immediately. The intent was to let veterans invite new friends to play alongside them, but there instantly was a lot of pushback from nearly everyone, and they very quickly announced that this story-skip pack would no longer be released.
This video explains exactly why this pack would have been a bad thing. The Second Dream is one of the greatest moments in any MMO game; its ending is the defining scene of the entire game. Every player deserves to get to see this amazing moment.
Man, are you in for a treat... Warframe's story is not only gargantuan, it is an *insanely* well-written exploration of identity and purpose. This little space-ninja game truly has some of the most personally touching moments I have ever had in a videogame, right up there with Nier: Automata, if not exceeding it.
One thing I do want to mention, is that the Lotus did not phase the moon into the Void by her own power. Humans - which are also called "The Orokin," just to clear that up for you, it's the name of the old human empire - built that giant cage around the moon to allow it to travel around the star system and protect itself from invasion. All the Lotus did after the Old War concluded was just turn its engine on and phase it permanently into the Void with herself, and us, still on board.
Really looking forward to more videos from you as you progress along your Warframe journey. You are just getting started, my friend. You're only just now awake, Tenno; now the real work begins!
Having played Warframe since 2013 long before this quest ever existed by the time i got the end of it i was sitting at my computer feeling kinda like i'd been punched in the gut and thinking
"What the fuck just happened?". This quest took every theory, thought and expectation I had about what a Warframe was and who the Tenno were and just blew them all into millions of little pieces.
Playing these quests as they dropped was earth shattering. I had to become an actor for AGES until my friends caught up with the quests so i could finally talk about them. You could read up stuff in the cephalon fragments, but honestly, playing the quests first and then reading up on the entries felt much better.
Man, if you just did Second Dream you're in for a wild ass ride. I love how absolutely insane this story is
All I can really say, is just wait. This was only the beginning, and honestly is such a small, but still significant, part of the story experience that so many great moments build off of.
I love this quest. It is my favorite .And I cry everytime at that realization scene.
As my friend and I like to say, you found where the budget kicks in. To this day that quest is nesr and dear to my heart. Can't wait for you to play The Sacrifice and Chains of Harrow
I remember when I did this quest, I think I actually was in shock the whole time lol, mouth wide open. I wouldn't call myself anywhere close to a veteran but I have 260 hours at this point, wish I remembered how many I had at the time. Yeah this quest solidified Warframe as one of my favorite games, even if i stop for a while I ALWAYS come back to it, the movement and story are too good! I'm also glad you weren't spoiled, luckily I wasn't either, I had seen someone walk around as operator but I thought it was just a Warframe ability...lol
I was playing for years, on and off just for the gameplay. Didn't expect anything from quests and then boom... when I finished second dream my mind was blown and anytime I see someone else doing it I tear up. Crazy experience 😅
Let's just put it this way... I started crying when watching your reaction. Amazing memories of the experience
You're absolutely correct about players loosing their collective minds when this initially dropped.
I was there day 1. Region chat was fun.
We weren't entirely in the dark on the concept of Tenno. The first lore bits mentioning Zariman and children who got out of it full of power were attached to early Prime Warframes, but it was not clear whether Warframes were grafted around tenno, or there was some other connection. Second Dream was the first ever mention of "Transference", so this quest successfully blew our minds and the hype around story content following it was incredible for a while.
The second dream was the BEST, I was kinda aware of the existence of the Operator thanks to MatPat's game theory. But I didn't really know when or how it would be included. Then I did this and had to deal with suddenly getting a whole new character, the "Pilot" if you would.
I was blown away by the idea that the operator would be an actual character to play, something to kinda link all the different "playable characters", yet in and of itself stands on it's own. the series just gets more wild. Personally I'd say War Within and The Sacrifice are the most 'ground shattering' to me, but this was the start of the secrets being discovered. 100+ hours into my game.
True Masterpiece. The soundtrack still hits so hard. Imagine learning 7-8 years ago that the real power is the person inside Warframe, and you get to play as that.
Tenno, this is what you are.
The amount of just scratching the surface of this game that's in this video is impressive, and oh my goodness am I always excited to see young Tenno realizing slowly what's going on in the story behind the scenes of this game.
Nowadays warframe is so fast that you just get to this quest so early you don't get to experience much of the game or start questioning the things going on around you, but back in the day it was SO MONUMENTAL, it gave answers to so many things that have been speculating and mining lore in this game for 4 years. Unfortunately nowadays it doesn't have the charm, the mistery and suspense from when it came out, but I'm glad I was there.
Man I'm so glad that warframe is getting the recognition that it needed now days. Like warframe was my first game that I played and was so fun just running through everything and looking at everything. And what gets me even more hyped up is that were seeing even more story quest which could lead to surprises.
I have spent 6k hours in this game (and counting), and this quest brings tears to my eyes, so many memories. Subbed and will look forward to seeing you grow, Tenno!
As an old Destiny 2 player with thousands of hours played I can confidently say that I wish those hours went into warframe. Warframe is my favorite game and I never feel like I’m wasting time when I play it. So many activities that are all rewarding in some way and the movement is the best I’ve ever experience in a game.
I started in 2014 and it blew my mind, but every big expansion quest has pretty much blown my mind as far as lore stuff goes
What you also need to know is that this quest took a lot of time to make. I remember seeing plans for inclusion of focus in update 14, and that is year and a half ago. And the best thing, we didn't even know what was awaiting us. DE marketed this quest as something that will explain who is Stalker, and we did get some of that, bat that was not what was important after you completed the quest. You found what you are, you found why children from Zarimann were important enough to be included in the codex entries of some Primes.
I was playing it almost from day one, back in the days where tons of stuff was much different. Playing it for years, and than seeing the actual very first in-mission cinematic play was already big, it felt HUGE, like a high budget cinematic! And we lived the entire time thinking we indeed were super suits. Stuff did get wierd when we got frames like Titania or Atlas, who's body structure doesn't leave much human to live inside, but it didn't bothered us too much. But than this small cinematic with the child... That was absolutely mindblowing. I spent at least half of an hour creating my character right after that and grasping what I just witnessed.
Look forward to the upcoming cinematic quests. They get better and better. But yes, the second dream is the master stroke.
Also I laughed when you mentioned someone playing for a bunch of years and then hitting character creation screen... You're right! It was surreal.
Legendary 4 Grand Master Founder checking in!
And just think, you haven’t seen ANYTHING yet.
I've been playing Warframe since the beginning and man that mission was an amazing experience for me, I may not play Warframe as often as I did back in the days but this game will always have a place in my heart because all the great memories, and I always recommmend this game to friends
2014 player here; Yes, it was a very breathe taking moment when after 4 years, we finally got this quest and got to explore so much lore and confirm so many rumors behind the Tenno and the Warframes themselves! ❤️
If you lost your mind during this quest, prepare to loose the whole head and maybe the upper torso with the twists and turns they throw at you later. It's gonna be a wild ride!
Oh *brother* you have so much ahead. Eldritch entities, pocket dimensions, mastering your *true* powers, maturing, growing, fighting in a war, learning what *warframes* actually are. Supposedly the next upcoming story arc after the current one involves time travel???
The New War, The Sacrifice, The War Within quest, are gonna be a joy ride for you. The Second Dream is what kicks off the true past of the Tenno, Warframes, and just what the Orokin were capable of, why the Tenno was so important to controlling the Warframes. I have completed every single quest in the game, Mastery 18, and it only gets better from there. This quest, was the true tutorial of the game, and now, you will see the game in a new way, when you do The Sacrifice, you will see the warframes in a new light, you will see them differently, and understand just what it means to control the Warframe, and feel new emotions when you look at them. DE has outdone themselves with how the player experience truly begins from this point on. I hope you enjoy the game, and enjoy just how the world opens up from this point onward.
I went blind when I started playing Warframe a year ago. But man, I did not just expect a stellar lore and story-telling. All I expected is a looter-shooter with cool customization.
This quest made me fall in love with Warframe. And it is indeed one of the most memorable gaming moments I've ever exerienced. And the funny thing is, there are more quests in Warframe that gav me the same feeling.
I highly recommend Warframe for both combat ANd lore/story lovers. This game offers both.
Before The New War, you need to do the Ropalolyst mission on Saturn. It lore dumps and explains a lot that is not explained anywhere else
Oh and the quest involving "umbra". I forget the name but you need to pay attention in that quest. It explains what the warframes are and how they are made
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I remember playing it back when it first came out. I had been playing Warframe for around two years already so I didn't know much of the lore. Just little nuggets here and there. However; Finding out I was a child was a complete shock to me and then being able to customize said child was such a brilliant move on DE's part. The sacrifice quest was also another shocker to me. The frames themselves can be made from humans by using the infected virus such as in the case of Excalibur Umbra. Because some frames couldn't be controlled, the children found on the Zariman Ten 0 (Tenno) --The Zariman was a colony ship which had a void jump accident and caused its inhabitants to be left stranded--were used to control the beasts in their experiments because they had acquired the ability to use void powers. Check out Rhino's and Ember's codex entries.
When I first experienced this quest I was 9? Years old I believe and now 8 years later it’s crazy to see someone else react to this quest
As someone who's been playing since the game had stamina (open beta), and off & on since. It was a paradigm shift to go from a faceless flesh-mech to having a character and you'll see it develop as you go through the rest of the questlines with crazier and more intriguing plotlines. Enjoy them to the fullest.
You are in for a treat when you get into the rest of the cinematic quests
im very excited
My man loosing his shit after playing Second dream quest. Wait till you play The New War quest.
nowhere near as good as second dream lol
Killing it bro! I had PlayStation and FF7 when I was 9 and man did I cry when Aeris died LoL. I can relate to this content because I'm done with Destiny and looking for other games. I haven't played anything in a while and I'll try to clean out my PS4 fan and download Warframe. I'll probably have to get something new. That things old. Anyways, have a good one friend!
thank you! glad you enjoyed the vid :) i've been experiencing the OG ff7 for the first time and its so, so, so incredible still
I remember when I did this mission a few years ago and I absolutely lost my mind. The lore only gets crazier from here too
The story here is wild and as a person with 800 hours, I still haven't fully figured it out. Good luck young tenno
wow I havent played warframe in a long time but I did play that quest when it came out and had the same experience/feelings about how good the story was... I got the same goosebumps as when I played the quest when I found out your video was about that specific quest
I was in a very similar spoiler-free place when i started playing in 2020. This revelation blew my freakin mind.. I just can't express it.
So much more ahead for you. The writing and world building is outstanding. I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions on future story beats.
The fact that you weren't spoiled about the quest - like with others - in my opinion speaks in volumes about how the community respects it and its impact. It will not be the only quest that will completely flip your expectations.
However, there is a lot of lore to unpack that you can find. Some of it is also in the Codex, which is worth investigating if you have a few minutes waiting for something like a response in chat or for a big pack of ciphers to cook in the foundry. Some frames - and even enemies - have information in their Codex entry, ranging from a few sentences to a lore tab.
it just keeps going after this. This is the very edge of the massive rabbithole into the depths of the game.
Prior to this Quest, the name Tenno was a link to the game Dark Sector where you played Hayden Tenno, who early on gets access to a Proto-Excalibur Suit. I believe one of the boss fights is against a Proto Nyx suit-wearing person. It's been so long since I played that game. I think early on people thought that you were a descendant of Hayden.
So more than flipping the game on its head with the introduction of the Operator it also undid everything people thought they knew about the links between Dark Sector and Warframe. Now the only relic of that currently is the Dark Sector nodes on the Star chart.
And now with Warframe 1999 it looks like they are going back and maybe rewriting those links in a whole new way.
One of the best experiences I've ever had in my almost 40 years of gaming.
Getting spoiled on this moment actually brought me back to the game, and it was entirely worth the time. Warframe's main quests are not afraid to upset the status quo. There's twists and turns and big reveals aplenty. It's really ballsy storytelling, so it's a shame so many people fall off before experiencing it.
It is always a pleasure to greet a freshly awaken Tenno. Welcome and thank you for sharing 🙂
I love how this basically tells you “yeah you just finished the tutorial” and I love that. It’s an incredible reward for how far you have come.
I'll be waiting for the new war video. You are going to love it!
Great video and yes tenno schools do give bonuses and as a new player you're going to want to prioritize zenerik if you upgrade the school far enough it will give you a passive 5 energy regeneration a second for 30+ seconds
Man your in for more of a treat!. I feel like the next few quests will topple off the second dream or may hit harder
Getting ready for The New War and THEN The War Within lol. That's not a slight against you, I just found it funny
lol definitely thought it was the other way around
Considering that I had been playing for about a year when this dropped it blew my mind! Totally changed my perspective of the game and the world.
The OST of that momment still give me goosebumps after all those years.
Congratulations, Tenno. You just completed the tutorial.
WARFRAME!!
I absolutely LOVE that people are still enjoying this game and being blown away by this quest. because its not just a quest... its an experience.
(I don't mean to sound so artsy. but its a great game)
Welcome, Tenno. I shall be waiting for your thoughts on the war within
New war I almost broke down. So epic. This game should have won all the awards there are by now. So great. Nice video thanks
On Trust me, your gonna love the rest of the main story quest, especially quest like chains of harrow (who isn’t main story but it’s good), the sacrifice, new war, and whispers in the wall to name a few. Trust me most quest that come after second dream is really good and you’ll love the game even more. Glad to see others having fun with this game
Chains of harrow is main story
@@silasglasgow2085 oh,I stand corrected
I was spoiled by someone about this quest even before start playing this game, but actually doing it? Stars, it was beautiful. I still remember the surprise seeing the my Tenno for the first time. And the next quests may be better in quality, but The Second Dream will always have a place in my hearth.
As a long time player, Oh boy I cannot wait to hear your thoughts on the rest of the cinematic quest. New War will make your head explode.
I immediately click I will never forget those moments and seeing how others interpret them are an absolute guilty pressure.
I've played since the closed beta and when the Tenno/Operator puts his/her hand on the Warframe and restarts it I almost fell of my chair... everything I'd read from the lore was trying to fall in place in my head as I was trying to make sense of it all. That was masterfully done by D.E. writers as they probably didn't know where they were going when they wrote the first lines of lore you can find in the Warframe descriptions in the Codex (Mag, Ember, Rhino...).
I have a little more over 700H on warframe at the time of writting this comment. It's great to hear you got to experience it spoiler free. Warframe is one of my favorite pc games and it's nice to see new players still having a blast with it.
Its so funny that his mind is blown with this quest
Like a few months later he is going to release the exact same video but talking about the sacrifice and then yet another video talking about the new war
My dude, you are in for one hell of a ride and the secobd dream is just the beginning
I remember when I got to the character screen that I bought some cosmetics because I thought that when I exited it that that would be my character for the rest of the game. Imagine my surprise when I found out you can just change your character whenever you like.
Had a genuine belly laugh there for a second. "Seventy to eighty hours in... that's a really long time." Oh, you sweet summer child. Not laughing at you mind. Just genuinely amused at thinking back what I thought at that approximate time spent. Not far off five thousand at this point. Glad to see you're enjoying the story. Have fun!
as a new player, the second dream questline hit HARD
so far, its my favorite moment in the game
I remember when this came out, this quest single-handedly turned every player at the time into lore nerds. We HAD to know what exactly was going on here. Why are we children. What did this all mean... It really changed everything for everyone.
And I'm glad that even now, some 9 years later which btw holy hell it's been 9yrs since TSD... Even now, it still strikes true for new Tenno. You're in for one hell of a ride buddy.
warframe is THE SHIT, ive been playing this game since 2013/2014 and i still love it. I'm currently working on getting my last 3 prime warframes, still have alot of weapons to craft, and stuck at mastery level 29 cause the test is too hard. but if anyone wants some help hit me up, I'm always in the game.
Oh dude... it only gets better from here.
If you thought so I can dream was good... can't wait to hear your thoughts on new war.
as someone who played from beta, not really diving into the lore. also assuming the frames were suits. i probably had around 1000 hours when i played the second dream quest, and honestly it might be the biggest revelation i have ever experienced in a game. I didn't know, but i had an inkling about what i would find. but when that pod opened, and my frame fell to it's knees, i fucking SCREAMED.
it was a genuinely insane experience.
I cannot wait to see you make a video about the new war. It in my opinion is the real optimy of what this game has to offer. Nearly 4 hours of gameplay that flips everything you knew about the game and gives you, the player, the chance to pariticpate a planitarry war. Can't say much more without spoilers but mark my words, your jaw will be on the floor.
Gonna sub so I can watch your reaction to the truly incredible Cinematic quests that are to come. You’ve only just scratched the surface mate!