Bangkok 🇹🇭 VS Kuala Lumpur 🇲🇾 (Which City is Better?)
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Today I'm AGAIN comparing cities: This time we are comparing Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur.
Which city is better and why? Where would I rather live? Which one should you consider?
As you probably already know, I'm a HUGE fan of Asia. I think that Asia is the future, and if you care about building in life this is a good place to be.
I love both Singapore and Hong Kong - they're amazing for business, and they're great places to visit. However, they're extremely expensive, and most ex-pats wouldn't consider them for a living. That's why places like Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur get more attention. They are amazing developed cities, with great weather, but without insane costs.
There is an expression that says: Do business in Singapore, live in Kuala Lumpur, party in Bangkok.
Kuala Lumpur, the capital of Malaysia is a fantastic city. I already talked about how much I appreciate this place, and I believe it is the best quality of life for every dollar spent. The downtown area is extremely clean and polished, and it looks very modern and cosmopolitan.
Bangkok is very different in many ways from KL. I have a love-hate relationship with Bangkok. Bangkok offers many things that are the best in the world: Best cinemas in the world, best groceries in the world, fancy rooftop bars, luxury hotels, and restaurants, fancy shopping malls. BUT then you step on the street and it's a chaotic mess.
What about costs? Well, the reality is that Thailand is not as cheap as it used to be. If you want to live a low-key lifestyle you can still get away without paying insane prices, but if you're looking for quality that doesn't come cheap. In that regard, Kuala Lumpur is definitely cheaper than Bangkok.
Renting or buying property and shopping is all certainly better priced in KL.
However, Bangkok offers so much - this place has been a tourist hub for so long and it had so much time to develop. Once I've heard someone saying ''no matter what you're looking for, you can find it in Bangkok''. If you're into partying Bangkok is certainly a better place to be, maybe even among the best in the world.
Kuala Lumpur, on the other hand, is a more calm, family oriented city. It doesn't have the same feel of craziness as Bangkok does.
What about visas?
Thailand offers a Thai Elite Visa, which is probably the world's greatest visa. You pay a fee of about $3000, and this includes VIP lane at the airport, being picked up at the airport and dropped off, it even includes massages!
Malaysian visa is not so easy to get, but it's not hard either. The most famous program was named ''Malaysia my second home'', but this was closed in early 2020. It will probably be reopened. At the moment you can get a Labuan director visa or a Tech Entrepreneur Visa.
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I am living in KL and I am so grateful to be here! Wonderful city and community and a pleasant lifestyle
I'm jealous, great place hoping it opens up soon
@@MichaelRosmer Hi Michael your review of KL has been impeccable ! Thanks for the great and helpful contents you share on your channel....keep the great work up! Many thanks mate
@@mauriziorosini6402 Thanks!
@@user-un1ci7cq1e thailand 7% msia 6%
to me combination of KL and BKK would be penang
One year ago I visited Bangkok, Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, spent four nights in each city. I loved all of them but was particularly impressed with KL, so much so in fact that I'm hoping to spend several months there over the winter this year.
So many tourists said this. They found gem between thailand and singapore that they didnt expect at all along the way
That’s nice! Glad you enjoyed all cities and especially KL.
Because KL is too cheap compared with Bangkok and Singapore.
@sitinur fatihah but according price consumer index, msia is still cheap actually plus Ringgit now also cheap, the tourist can buy more so it is grand paradise from now on!
KL is hilly city even KL Tower also located on the 'real' tropical forest hill, the atmosphere is totally different with bkk.
Is this the Goldilock effect? Lol. Even though it is not, it totally is.
First i want to say that both cities are nice in their own way. But for me as a Westerner, KL is the best city in all southeast Asia to live in considering its development, prices, diversity in everything and greenery.
Totally agreed.
Yes sure
KL is just in between first and third world like many other cities but I also don't know why I love it too! they have large origin Chinese and Indian in the same place which blend with muslim Melayu.. there's no like other place. It's new world of Asia!
Agreed!!! I've been in KL 8 years, not leaving anytime soon. The lock down is a bitch though.
Agreed KL hands down
I am malaysian. Bangkok is a good place too. If you thinking to settle down in 1 place, there is no need to think hard. We are a neighbouring country. You can travel to both country easily.
My thoughts exactly!
don't tell me ure okay with this. living here in KL on a taxpayer subsidized cost of living but doing business in singapore. ridiculous. offshore citizen, take your dollar elsewhere if you're not going to invest properly in KL.
@@ginc86 flashbacks to the colonial exploitation times
In case you missed the news COVID changed that.
Kuala Lumpur is like this perfectly balanced city that is just nice for you to settle in with your family, but also without forgoing the good parts of the city life. It's like KL still have that charm of a nostalgic, old town rich with culture and history, but also with modernity at every junction. It's the perfect marriage between the traditional and the modern world, with generous green patches of nature in between. Just make sure you respect the local culture, people and norms here, and don't get stuck inside the rush hours, then you'll enjoy your stay here.
Agreed!
Thank you for sharing your insight. And for the advice :)
i will pick kl everyday every second. bgk with all respect is too hectic. kl is more organized cleaner and no language barrier
KL is my all-time favourite city that I have visited and Bangkok is my 3rd favourite - I have visited many cities but BKK and KL are in my top 3. My top 3 cities visited are KL, Singapore and Bangkok...even Jakarta is good too. Bangkok has a lot of buzz, very chaotic in a good way and is a fantastic tourist city with so much to do but KL wins for many reasons for me and I'm planning to retire there
Thank you for sharing your experience. KL definitely seems like a great place for retirement.
Any other cities you'd like us to cover?
@@OffshoreCitizen Hmmm I have visited a lot of cities so here is a list of cities that I have been to but not sure some of them are places for retirement:
Istanbul, Cairo, Dubai, Jakarta, Rome, Barcelona, Manila, Lisbon, Barcelona, Madrid, Valletta, Athens, New York, Doha, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai....and oh yes cannot forgot London (I'm from the UK - maybe not the best city to retire though)
I living in Singapore, definitely KL is much comfortable than Bangkok.
What about a Bandung City in Indonesia? I heard there also a very relaxing a eco friendly tourism city at there. 😃😃
There’s so many construction going on around Kuala Lumpur. Its so active with new development. No wonder every other year its skyline always changes. NICE KL
Yeah it's pretty crazy and great hopefully they open up soon
true. too many construction sites around KL
Same goes to Johor Bahru, the active construction made the road look terrible.
not nice.. being in KL city centre is like being in à continuous construction site..
i have not been to bangkok for some time, but just saying kl wud be much better place if the construction just stop for once..
i mean, i can understand a building to be built, but its a neighborhood some sorts.. its like building 4 marina bays.. bbcc, klcc area, bandar malaysia, trx..
When are they going to stop all these craziness. Sigh...
I am from Singapore, I say both BKK & KL are nice cities, given the chance, I will stay 5 months in KL and then visit BKK for a month to enjoy the best of both city.
like this youtuber said: earn sg dollar, stay in kl, part in bkk. sibeh syoik
@@gkheng and find women in Vietnam
I vote for Kuala Lumpur. It's clean, safe and offers lots for a lifestyle that I want. I recommend everyone to visit both of these cities and decide for themselves. I personally could never live in Bangkok. It's just too messy and I feel like I couldn't get anything done there. 😀
I can get things done there but I don't feel it's a healthy environment on the streets and there's a sort of tension I carry there
Sawadiii
@@MichaelRosmer environment in Bangkok? I hardly breathe there, too many people or building skyscrapers, lots of cars polutions...
@@ladydivaalfee indeed it feels unhealthy
Bangkoks streets are too narrow all over the city, i felt hard to breathe and its too hot and overcrowded.
As a Thai, I pick KL without a doubt in term of well-organized city. Btw, lots of Malaysians can be seen at any bars in BKK. They drink like there's no tomorrow. Enjoin life! Most welcome to BKK friends..
No, no...KL not so good, BKK very oustanding and perfectly city in South East Asian. 👍👍
bangkok its like jakarta so many people around and many food street beside road... so i choose malaysia..
What are u tryna proves here? U seem confused yourself🤨
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Nahh. Bangkok is nothing like Jakarta. Much better in all aspects.
Asean Holy Trinity are :
Singapore.. better for Job
Kuala Lumpur.. better for Stay/Living
Bangkok.. better for Party/Vacation
these 3 countries should collaborate to make a fastest train crossing the 3 Capital City.. Thailand, Singapore & Malaysia is Top 3 Most Visited Country in Southeast Asia.. i'm sure that would attract more tourists to come if those fastest train really exist..
Very good idea. Imagine the tourism boost. Just like the one in Europe (underground tunnel connection). Ours can have bullet train, like the upcoming Jakarta to Bandung project. At the end, all depends on our government.
Brilliant idea!
A lot of drunk and junkies people around KL especially in Masjid Jamek and Bukit Bintang area. I prefer Bangkok for all...
so true
Lets make it Holy Quadraty ;
Singapore : Business
Bangkok : Hangouts
KL : Recreation
Saigon : Shopping
Im from the Phils...but Kuala Lumpur is way better than Bangkok and Manila...KL is so clean...more advanced and so modern...
tysm im malaysian honestly all southeast asian countries are great🤙🏻
I love all south east Malaysian cities and towns that i have visited so far.. except maybe Laos (never been there) .. SEA countries are fun .. not that expensive and i can fly within 3- 4.5 hours the most from KL
I love Bangkok but would prefer to settle down in KL, KL like you said is more organized and we aint gona stay young forever, party scene gets old after a few years. You also didnt mention the fact that english is widely spoken in KL and KL has better culinary scene than Bangkok in my opinion, more diverse and multi cultural with the Malay, Indian and Chinese.
The food scene is more diverse in KL but there are higher end options in Bangkok I find so depends what you're after.
And yes the language is a big advantage of KL.
@@MichaelRosmer for me personally, im pretty simple .. chillis, tgi fridays, nandos kinda guy, not much into high end stuff. I dont need a plethora of high end joints. I usually go back and forth between KL and Bangkok. They are both great cities and close together only a short flight over. Another plus point for KL for me is the calmer, peaceful manner .. less rowdy, far less on prostitution in your face and more affluent tourists than long term backpackers. KL is more strict with illegal drugs n all, traffic also less hectic. Bangkok is a great sibling city.
@@AidanZO305 I do love KL
@@MichaelRosmer sweet. they r both good value for money, friendly and great weather 😊
@@AidanZO305 but Malaysian and its government is infamous harsh on gender and sexuality minority. That's why most people prefer bangkok to kl, unless they are Muslim themselves
Bangkok is for lonely European guys and kl is for families western guys... haha
True💯
Why is this kinda true😂😂😂
Bruhhh😂😂😂
So true … If you want more clubbing , bars and sex, definitely go to bangkok. If you want more stable and family oriented life, then Kuala Lumpur.
Lol
I spent two weeks in each city as a tourist and I have to say KL is one of the best cities I've ever been to. KL beats Bangkok in everything except nightlife
It's understood, as a Muslim country.
Sure? I think you are malaysia when there are topics about Bangkok vs KL ,I see malaysians avatars profile is so help theirs country looks good ,but your country full of hate people and try to discredit Thailand ,you must trow hate habit and narrow mind of Muslim culture first ,Malaysia has no interesting things to do that and full of narrow mind people who get from Muslims culture ,only looks clean and people speak english but I dont like there ,there are lots of prohibition.
@@thaitvfan5605 I couldn't agree more with you
@@elaineg6594 are you a malaysian ? You dont like muslims ? You are islamophibia . Muslims dont hate other people , just because they dont do what you do . Grow up .
You can choose to live where you like , singapore , bangkok .
@@thaitvfan5605what prohibitions exactly? I noticed Thais only like to say Malaysia is bad bcos Muslim = restricted but they can’t actually name those restrictions.
Thank you for making me realise how lucky i am for living in Malaysia. As Malaysian, we always thinking that our country is the worst among the world and always full with problem in here and there. However, we forgot that there are no perfect country in this word, always have positive and negative side to every each country. Im so glad that our country still live in harmony and growing despite for all of the issues that have been landing recently and not to forget next month its our national day so its time to always loved our country and not complaining all the time for not having the best experience in Malaysia. Love Malaysia 🥰
Some Malaysians like to tell bad things about malaysia, they hv not experienced living elsewhere , they are not grateful enough . They can choose to live elsewhere like , singapore , thailand , vietnam , beijing , hongkong , then eventually they will realize , how bless to be aMalaysians .
For example , many Malaysians praise how well singapore hv develop etc etc , but will they choose to live in singapore for good ?
This is very sad .
@@abhs1141Totally agree with you. Many people always see grass is greener on the other side but truth is the other side is sometimes full of surprises that can only be seen when one stays there longer than 2 weeks touristic tour.
I would use the territorial tax arrangements and live long-term in Malaysia - when MM2H restarts. Reasons... nice, friendly people generally, English is widely spoken, wonderful food, a good level of infrastructure (roads, internet, malls, etc.), international hub - KL, some nice beaches, good value for money, interesting architecture, Georgetown Penang UNESCO world heritage site, Borneo forests, and nature. Alcohol is heavily taxed but I'm not a heavy drinker...often! NB: They seem to like polite British people - which greatly adds to our decision. Like you said Bangkok good place to visit but perhaps not the best to live long-term.
Hope once travelling ban uplift, do come and feel welcome here.
i'm malaysian, since i've worked in hospitality and customer service in kl... yes, i was always in awe when the british open their mouths, especially the elderlies. their choices of words and phrases, sometimes with witty jokes very pleasant and warm for me. one more thing, they never acted like a boss. with a little help to them, they would reply with a great appreciation. no...i've never asked for the fantastic words, but that's how the british courtesy i would say. we are not flawless, but courtesy would help a lot for both locals and expats.
In Malaysia politeness and friendliness goes a long way and can get you out of difficult situations.
Sham Anuar thank you! We can’t wait!
HIGH SKY I know I very much appreciate good service and a smile! When traveling to other countries I see myself as an honoured guest and act like I’m in someone’s home. Thank you.
At least you won’t get charged the farang rates in KL. The people there are more honest and clean compared to Thailand.
I lived in KL for three years (2015-2018) and I tend to be a bit bias when you compare KL to other cities since I love KL. But I do agree with everything you say. KL has less to offer compared to Bangkok but if I would choose a city to live in I would definitely pick KL. Thanks for a great video :).
For a healthy life KL is my choice but for enjoyment and short stay Bangkok is the best Both cities has it's own charm and beauty.Overall I would prefer KL.
If you are single BKK if you are in a relationship KL...end of video
Indeed..totally agree
Clearly
Thanks for this wonderful video. Like KL vs Dubai, it's lovely to see comments favoring KL vs Bangkok. KL won again.
Like some says:
Wear your office suit in Singapore,
Put on your party hat in Bangkok,
Slip into your slippers in KL.
Stay at KL, Work at SG, Play at BK~
Pretty much how i think all these while too 🤓
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That’s a genius moves sir.I’m Thai and I hate BKK so much. KL is better
The quality of life in KL is definitely way better than Bangkok & one important plus for KL is the usage of English which is widely used.
Yeah English is really nice
I’ve been in thai...diffficult to find people that can speak in english...
@@dryodi6879 i can speak English, but i'm stay at Yala province
@@Yassiralphard i mean bangkok....i always go to south thai...pattani, narathiwat...easy to communicate...malay or english....
@@dryodi6879 yeah, now you still in Thailand?
Another point you may consider which is very important is heathcare. In case of something happen to your health while you are traveling, Kuala Lumpur is among the best quality heathcare with reasonable cost for expat and easily accessible
Absolutely, this is a very important factor to consider!
Don’t want to break your bubble but Thailand’s healthcare is beyond par.
Bro you don't know how advance and convenient healthcare in Bangkok is. Sorry mate, KL is of no comparison.
@@muhammadabbaskhan3914….KL is well known for medical tourism.
@@Idaleasofia24 so is Bangkok
I am Malaysian but has traveled to Thailand 6 times luv the food so good n the people also very kind
As long you spending cash.
@@racism.789
Thai people never say like this to anyone!
The pollution factor alone is already an extra advantage to KL.
Any part of Malaysia is far more organized. not to mention, the language. almost no barrier
Yeah the English is a huge selling part
Agreed
Ada jugak kat sini? Ayoyooo...
@@brightstarlavandula3028 lu refer kat sape?
Budaya org thai bangga dengan bahasa kebangsaan
Choose KL for orderly, cleanliness and the verity of food! Chinese (Cantonese, Hakka, Hokkian), , Indian, Malay and the fusion of Chinese + Malay (Nyonya) and Durian (especially Musang King). Best of all you can always fly to Bangkok for the weekend, its only 2hrs. I am in KL I know.
As 100% Thai. I'd say both cities are wonderful, BKK and KL have their own characteristics. If you prefer neat life style or love relaxing, it will then KL better than BKK, but if you like a city with a variety of moods, gastronomy heaven, tons of activities to do..and you can live with either fancy life or backpacker style. I'd say BKK is "good enough" to be your choice. Anyway, welcome to both cities.
Yeah both are great
Gastronomy heaven would be Malaysia, not Thailand.
@@heliophitravelvlog really why? Personally I think it depends on your tongue and interpretation.... Both cities are great for food, it doesn't matter about the answer, isn't it? Imagine if you come to Bangkok or KL and you feel starving... First thing you want to fulfill into your stomach is food right? So, either green curry chicken or chicken rendang that you can eat from your dish will definitely make you feel food heaven from what we re talking about.
@@47640312 Are you from Indonesia?
@@47640312 Either true or not, Malaysia have a rich multi diversity people. The multi super perfect cuisine combined the Malay, Chinese, and Indian give the highly complex, symphony of flavours and diverse. Malaysia is blessed with diversity and we celebrated of everytime.
Good breakdown of both cities. Subbed today.
As a foreigner living in KL who frequently travels to Singapore and Bangkok, I have to agree. Living wise, KL is definitely the best place in ASEAN for families. But Bangkok is a great place to visit for a few days.
Malaysia is a muslim friendly country in the world. No one can denied that. Can find halal food (not only halal but delicious too) almost everywhere, easy to find mosque/musolla, water is everywhere for washroom and ablution etc. And at the same time it's not too strict (religiously), you still can have fun and good times there and see cultural diversity where you can see mosques, churches and temples were built side by side and the preachers can openly preach their own religion without any problems and all the races live peacefully amongst each other (no races riot). Where could you find these kind of thing anywhere in the world? 🤷
That's why you can see muslims (and non muslims also) tourist/migrants worldwide love this country. 😁
Living in Kuala Lumpur is like a peace of mind, it may be boring and nothing much to do but its ok..it is like living in an Australian city, not too hectic, not too big, not too many people, wider roads, lots of garden and lakes. If you have family then you will love this place, but if you young expat, young couple or adventurous person than definitely Bangkok is for you..
this
There are many places for young people to enjoy in Malaysia ...u just hv to look for them..we are more reserved country..
agreed kuala lumpur like a garden city good for you mental and fizikal healty
Living in Australian city? What a joke. I'm from KL and I've been to Melbourne and Sydney. KL and any Australian city is totally different. Australian cities are developed, more neat and clean, well organized, they have beautiful gardens and beach in the city. Sorry dear you cannot compare developed cities with developing cities like Kuala Lumpur. You may compare KL with Jakarta, Hanoi, Bangkok, Manila.
@@peacevkw I think you are correct it is not comparable to Australian cities..KL is more like American cities, it sometimes gridlocked like Los Angeles, got petty crimes like in Chicago, slums like Detroit, multicultural like NY, and those gleaming skycrapers TRX tower, KLCC, KL Tower all looks like Las Vegas..not perfect but OK !
I feel like Kuala Lumpur is underrated.
Yes and bcoz of underrated made KL is more mystery to discover.
thailand vote kuala lumpur
malaysian vote bangkok
both great..
Kinda true wish I can stay in BKK for mid term and experience some lifes..
Hell yeah.. I vote for my neighbor country
I ❤ Bangkok, KL & Singapore
I wish High Speed Rail project could extend to Bangkok & Singapore for more convenient of peoples in this 3 countries..
Yes ofcourse
But many people choose KL in the comments... World Please comment fair to both of them
@@abdulrahimmoin4418 ok lah..
kl stay 6month. bkk stay 6 month ...whole year stay in happy life
I’m Malaysian. KL-ite; born & bred. Been living in Bangkok for the past 5 years up until the pandemic. I do not disagree with Michael’s points/comparisons. In fact, I think he’s pretty much spot-on in the video. Earned a sub, Mike! Shall be checking out your other videos :)
KL: best quality of life spent per dollar, anywhere in the world... this is also my opinion, and many other expats who have lived in KL. Malaysians just don’t know how cheap things are in Malaysia because they’ve not known what it’s like in other parts of the world.
It's soooo good! Have you lived there?
@@MichaelRosmer yes of course, I’m a Malaysian, but I’ve been living abroad for the most of my life. Africa, Asia, America, Europe.. in the end I still find the best value for money to be Malaysia. Just as a comparison, Malaysia’s Per capita income is higher than her regional neighbors eg Cambodia, Vietnam and Indonesia, but surprisingly food is cheaper in Malaysia, this was also told to me by Indonesians who used to live and work in Malaysia.
My bf, who is a German, was inviting people from Germany over to Malaysia just to impress them with how cheap it is here, so much that it’s unbelievable for the Germans. Having a meal for two in a Japanese restaurant for 12euro? The same would be five times more expensive in Germany, and the food isn’t as good.
I also want a lot of people to go and live in KL, just like Paris and London. Soon there would be crimes It is not a pleasure at all.
dont forget that Malaysia fuel much more cheaper after Brunei.. & have a good highways with good facility R&R compares to Asian countries..
Please let’s keep it that way. We love to stretch our dollar and keeping good lifestyle affordable.
This is quite informative.
Bangkok wins for entertainment. Kuala Lumpur wins for cleanliness, food heaven and well-planned modern city and with stunning skyscrapers and the center of Asia and access to other world and much more safe and also the life style . Anyhow, I like both cities.
Food heaven i guess bangkok...
Malaysian food is more delicious and diverse compared to Thai food but Thai food is more popular.
@@Idaleasofia24 , popular for spicy lovers for Thai food but it does not mean delicious. Malay food, Chinese food and
Indian food are much more tasty than Thai food.
@@matjengjebong9189...I agree with you not because I am Malaysian but because this is the truth. Thai food is delicious but Malaysian food is much more delicious with Malay, Chinese, and Indian fusion blend well into one plate! I work in America, Americans who traveled to Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand told me Malaysian food is incredibly delicious, they were surprised.
Malaysia Truly Asia!
I've lived and worked in SE Asia for 20 years. Your synopsis is spot on! Well done.
Thank you!
How was your experience?
As a tourist I prefer Bangkok...it's a lot more vibrant and exciting. But I'd rather live in KL....from Singapore
Great fair assessment....👍 Bangkok for visiting and KL for living
This is very informative, thank you 👐
You're welcome!
Happy to be of service :)
Anything else you'd like to see?
Pretty spot on, nothing in your assessment that I would dispute. 👍🏽
Stay in KL for sure and play in Bangkok. After all, it is just a 2 hours flight and there are endless flights between the two cities from as low as USD60 for a return ticket.
Agreed
Top notch info. Thanks.
You're welcome! Happy to be of service
Anything else you'd like to see?
Very informative. Will keep you in mind regarding future moving decision. Thanks again.
You're welcome, always a pleasure!
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Both is good but for retirement wise i prefer KL ...from Singapore
KL is the best. Clean, safe ,cheap and the people are awesome ! Go to Bangkok on the week end. I would love to live in KL.
Good analysis and opinion.
Thank you!
Anything else you'd like to see?
Bkk is nice ...but I jst adore k.L
Definitely KL, Malaysia! My lovely country 😍😘🇲🇾
I'm Thai, I think Kuala Lumpur is cleaner than Bangkok. Bangkok is very dirty
I choose Kuala Lumpur.
Good choice, what do you like most about it?
@@MichaelRosmer its people. They are multicultural, multilingual and always helpful, warm and friendly.
@@gingerteddy618 agreed love the people there
Me too 😝
I’m Thai and very envy of Kuala lumper’s infrastructure, good sanitary conditions, less congests and more organized
Thank you. Would really like to visit your city one day.
No, please dont be envy because Bangkok alone far more greater and fast growing ahead than KL. 💪💪
@@khaiophirgrad7717 Bangkok can’t even manage their exposed street electricity cables lmao
@@khaiophirgrad7717I am Thai and Malaysians got us beat there, no shame in admitting our deficits, how else would we improve? I think that is an important mindset.
Great detailed video. I to started to notice the Bangkok is getting more expensive these days. Value still top notch.
Yeah Bangkok has gone up in price a lot. Massages are still great value though
Sawadeekap. We Malaysian likes to visit Bangkok ....nice ppl and shopping heaven too.
Good review as real experience. ขอบคุณครับ
Cool video! :D
KL is the best for sure, I truly love Malaysia!!!
Normally Kuala Lumpur high quality food we will go to outskirt of KL. Most local residence not stay near city center, we will go to grocery market or fresh mart near us to buy all type of high quality food or we easily to get it online or grab. Kuala Lumpur Grab car and delivery is convinience than bangkok a lot. as bangkok is super traffic jam. KL street food more cheaper than bangkok, but I find out high quality restaurant bangkok more reasonanle. Another advantage of KL is English widely spoken. also long term acommodation rental more cheaper.Anyway,Both cities are friendly and nice . In my opinion ,To travel bangkok, long term stay Kuala Lumpur.
Awesome video!
Thank you! Anything else you'd like to see?
I used to go to KL every have been there 18 times, always thinking of ways to retire there. In the past I also looked into MM2H, so I’m not sure if you did a video already on that . But I think that’s interesting. KL is definitely my favorite city. I’m from Amsterdam by the way.
It was a great program, unfortunately it's been on a hold, due to covid. You can check out this video we have about Malaysia th-cam.com/video/cqzVWJB0EkY/w-d-xo.html
Work in Singapore, live in KL, party in Bangkok ....soo true. So for nomads or retirees live/work in KL and go party in Bangkok
BKK is the best city on the planet for overall everything. With that said I haven't spent enough time in KL to hedge it against BKK. My memories from KL is that the city has a strong vibe of weird. The city just felt weird to me... I like weird, so I will return to KL eventually. Thanks for your video.
What are the highlights of Bangkok for you?
@@MichaelRosmer The people... The way of life and the cultural vibes that breath all over Thailand in general. The ease of getting around makes it inspiring to get lost... The price tags... The food... The smiles and conversations with pretty much any local... The motorbike taxi rides and discovering that BKK is the city that never sleeps. NYC doesn't come close to the electricity of Bangkok. If you don't believe it just look at the wiring above your head when you're walking along any Soi. Thanks for your question Michael. Be well.
@@inCARSONate sex n drug n bla bla
@@undercryingfunundercryingf5247 the "bla bla" is fantastic there! Agreed...
@@inCARSONate ..thats why u choose bangkok🤭😂😂
In Bangkok, the first thing that hits you is the smell of sewage, everywhere. Price Discrimination is in your face everywhere, entry to venues like a zoo or parks X for locals and 2X for foreigners. They call Thailand the land of smiles, maybe in small towns and villages, not in Bangkok; the locals there don't want to have anything to do with you if they're not selling you a product or a service, they look at you as a necessary evil.
Kuala Lumpur is cleaner, friendlier, cheaper, more honest, better food, and English speakers are almost everywhere.
Fair assessment
Great video Mike. Thanks.
An idea for you - Would love to see a full video on Thailand taxation. Both personal tax & Corporate tax (for a US LLC). I get the sense that if a foreigner runs their online business sitting in Thailand, tax can be nil. 😊
I love Bangkok. stayed there a few times. Possibly even looking to move as a young expat. Great culture and vibe and really great food!
Yeah Bangkok is amazing in may ways. Especially for a young expat.
@@OffshoreCitizen Most poeple enjoy the unhealthy night life of Bangkok。。。
@@joelee4210 You sound so jealous people can do what they want to do for travel they choose what they want to do nothing wrong. BKK got many things to enjoy not just night life.
@@joelee4210 We have so many temples, cultural heritage places, Royal Palaces, 2 forest parks, best cinemas in the world, amazing shoppings both hi-end and local markets etc. And only one thing you believe we beat you is SEX?
Believe it or not, as a Malaysian myself I find it much more easier to find an outing or entertainment places in Bangkok compare to KL. In Bangkok I find It way way way much more options.
Bangkok is city of entertainment, great for night life fun. But Kuala Lumpur is city of comfort life... Great for families and relaxing.
Excellent video content - Would like to learn about Labuan holding companies, director visas, cost and ongoing running costs. Is banking / wealth management safe in Labuan?
As with anything there's a spectrum. The beauty in Malaysia is they are dominated by the Singapore banks, which are some of the safest in the world. I wouldn't keep much of any money in the local currency
If you’re looking for a place to live then KL should be up there in your list. Several places in Malaysia are among best retirement destinations in Asia (Penang, KL, and Kota Kinabalu in Borneo). If you’re looking for a place to feel like a tourist, then Bangkok it is.
Love BKK, i went there almost every year.... before covid era huhuuuu.. but i live in KL and will continue living here.. BKK is when u need to break free and care less. Good therapy!
No matter for living or visiting I strongly confirm Bangkok is Better. Bangkok is everything.
I wish i watched this video BEFORE coming all the way to Thailand 😂 I totally agree Thailand everywhere is chaotic and polluted but you get the nice beaches and Amazing people here. I wouldn’t want to live here though
Michael could you make a video top cities to relocate to in Asia. I'm in California and at first I was researching other states to move to I've now scrapped that idea. I feel like asia is the future and soo far have been looking at Dubai and KL but im open to more options would love to hear your perspective.
Great suggestion yes absolutely I'll do that.
If you want to move to.a fluently english speaking city, Kuala Lumpur is the best, well organized, clean and multi cultural
Kuala Lumpur is well balanced city and living expenses is still ok.
My suggestion is state of Penang, Malaysia. It is also top 10 place to retire in the world. Penang is mix between old and modern lifestyle.
Dubai. It's more interesting over there. I am from Kl, but it's a reserved city. More conservative. If you are old and in the midst of retirement, Kl might be fine for you but if you are young and passionate Dubai is the answer.
I'm malaysian. My ancestor from satun, thailand. I love both city. Kuala Lumpur and bangkok are great city. KL is great for live if you want peaceful and cool time with your fam. But bangkok is great if you want more social activites and journey. Both are fantastic place. Dont worry. We are neighbouring country. For me, Just take 1 hour to arrive at border. Hehe.. But your maybe have to take a flight ticket and its take maybe 2 hour to arrive bangkok... Btw, good comparison and have a nice info... Sawadikap and selamat datang ke southeast asian country...peace one love 😍
KL wins.
I love visiting Bangkok but prefer KL.
KL speaks better english & is way more orderly.
Singapore is my fave but its very very expensive!!!!
Omg, I am missing Bkk very badly - heading back ASAP
I love Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur. Both are super great with so many unique characters. I am Malaysian. Both city so great, hustle-bustle & food street of Bangkok and organized calm greenery KL..
Loved KL , much more than SIN and BKK.
I prefer Bangkok! Because of foods! Tom yam, pad Thai, Pandan Coconut etc,Thai people is friendly and very polite, base on my travel experience (=
These thai food are also everywhere in Malaysia
@@TranquillityInFlames the Thai food in Malaysia is milder and less spicy. But Thai food in Thailand is extremely spicy and stronger in flavour. I find it too spicy, sour, salty and sweet.
I've lived in Bangkok and now live in Kuala Lumpur. KL is definitely the easier city for English speakers to live in. Bangkok is 4 times the size of KL and it's amazing to explore, but takes more effort. Everyone who settles in Bangkok long term either learns Thai or has a strong connection e.g. gets married or has family there.
Bangkok is actually almost same size with the one state of Selangor which is the Greater KL area by definition since KL's transit system also spread away for covering.
@@xy4284 That's a cool statistic!
To give people a better idea, I normally tell people back home that the Klang valley is roughly the same population and size of Greater London. About 8 million people. It's the sheer density of population in Bangkok that I find hard to explain to anybody who hasn't been in a huge metropolis.
@@jamesabela5439 UK population almost same size with Thailand. Malaysian population still not even comparable than those huge metropolis nations. London come smaller in size with Bangkok since Thailand is more bigger packed centralized while UK is more urbanized which is easier to organize.
@@xy4284 I recognized you. I saw u here n there. I like your convincing honesty
Have you travel throughout entire KL ? How do you know BKK is 4 times KL?
I'm Thais and live in Bangkok. What I want to say is Bangkok simply look the same as Singapore and KL for its vertical scene, but for its horizontal scene, I still have no idea.
Thailand is a freedom country and full of entertainment, beautiful women, many food options, beautiful beaches, not strictly religious, the majority are very good when meeting and much more
Not very beautiful though they look inbred.
@@sebarkaneugenikdanbudayain6248 Thailand is a cowboy country 😊
Yeah, Thailand has beautiful women, just make sure they're not lady boys :)
The population and size of BKK are much larger than KL. These factors, good or bad, likely put more weights on some of your points mentioned, eg, bigger malls, more demand & supply, more congested/chaotic/dirty city like BKK. Therefore, I’d personally prefer a more orderly/organised/cleaner KL
Bankok appears to be about 1000 mile drive north of KL so is the weather less humid?.. Ide travel there for a day or 2 only for the gourmet grocer you mentioned.. very interesting
I m from Malaysia..i love my neighbor Thailand for vacation..n food..n nice people there..
Singapore for business
Kuala Lumpur for living
Bangkok for party
If you go to south east asia, go to kl and bangkok, both. You'll get everything in the world. Don't miss these two cities. Your journey will be complete.
What I find amazing in all these vlogs and the comments below is that nobody talks about how easy it is to integrate. Whether it’s locals or a large community. It’s fine to know about the cleanliness and the supermarket but I wanna make sure I am not gonna end up ultra lonely and sad in this place
This is a fantastic point. In my opinion this also depends lots on the person, some people can integrate almost anywhere, while for others it's harder.
From my experience both of these cities are expat friendly, especially Bangkok. Lots of foreigners from all over the world, and amazing welcoming locals.
Some cultures are certainly harder to blend in, but from my experience Southeast Asia is very good in that regard.
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Great vid Michael! I'm highly considering visiting Thailand and Malaysia and am researching which are the best cities to visit as a vegan. Chiang Mai keeps showing up along with KL and Bangkok. Do you know when KL plans on opening up again? And what are your thoughts about HCMC Vietnam?
I don't have as much experience with Vietnam whereas I've spent extensive time in Malaysia and Bangkok and visited multiple times. Vietnam is definitely improving faster and I've got friends and clients who have lived there for years, for my taste it's not quite ready yet.
Not as good for tax but Bali has a lot of vegan options
@@MichaelRosmer Yes lots of ppl have mentioned Bali is great for vegans also. I figured CM would be cheaper and better options for food but idk I'm doing my research
Malaysian here - I dont think we are opening up anytime soon unfortunately. I would say maybe March 2022 when we are done vaccinating 80% of the population.
@@hanafihaniff2779 I'm not optimistic than you are but yeah I agree it doesn't seem likely to open in the near future
Bangkok is just enjoy for some days vacation.. Enjoy the city life but KL is the best place to stay peacefully