NEVER SELL THIS AGAIN! World of Tanks
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- The BZ-176 is a game breaking monster in World of Tanks! Here's why Wargaming should NEVER sell it again featuring la_bot!
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I'm old enough to remember the times when premium tanks aimed to be slightly worse than their fully upgraded tech tree equivalents. 😞
Only one I would say was better than the tech tree tank is the Lowe.
@@achmegrules145 it was still balanced though, you can still outDPM it, or snipe it's lower plate down,
@@achmegrules145ehh the tiger 2 was a pretty even fight for the lowe.
Good times… good times 😢
That ended with the Type 59 premium Chinese medium, but it has been nerfed to oblivion since then.
The worst time was Christmas 2022 where you had platoon of these absolutely destroying everyone
you mean the BEST time
@@Omegawerewolfx i guess its a matter of perspective haha
I can't wait to buy one myself
Yah, I was brute-forcing my way through to my first tier 10, and these made it unplayable. Not been back since.
Was the same when I got the TS, played one game - instantly broke my own personal bests because it was an indestructible monster that the enemy couldn't bounce, couldn't bring myself to play it again because it was so cheap and P2Win.
I think most people share the same sentiment @@nathanr7931
WG: OK ... OK ... we won't sell it by itself ...
Also WG: We'll put it in a loot box instead!
PROFIT!
Driving home for Xmas shallalala
we are paying for the box and a the tank is free :)
@@greggo34 Nope. Legally you buy a lottery ticket and it's a win. So you would make retroactive changes to a concluded lottery.
You have product laws, digital product laws, terms & conditions plus gambling laws. You multiply that by an legal system jurisdiction it was sold in.
I don't think you can cancel or refund a concluded lottery. That's even worse than just undo a product sale by a refund.
The very best thing is to kill the profitability of it. WG should make the shell prices a pure luxury.
It came from a loot box and as QB said it should never be sold again.
just madness this thing is equal tier then something like a Panther II or CS 53, oneshotting most of T6 vehicles and even some T7s, evrytime this vehicle is in your battle 29 Players get a bad experience
The fact that an Easy 8 or a KV-1S can face up against this thing is mad
Oh and then it also 2 shots every tier 8 HT... and 3-6 shots anything higher tier than it
@@Lo-tf6qt This is why i say that tier 6 has -2/+4 matchmaking these days. Bz-176 could easily pass off as a tier 10 and it wouldnt be bad.
@@BlackoutGootraxianHonestly it sucks when I'm tryna have fun in my Thunderbolt VII and some fucker in a Bz or a Renegade or whatever ungodly tier 8 premium gets shoved into my match.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sayin I wanna be top tier and bully tier 4's all the time, but I just want a match where my vehicle can acc contribute to the team instead of just delaying the inevitable.
Or a CDC, ripper patton, all that...
0:46 This turret traverse speed is so amazing :D
2 tanks I can think of that have similar scary damage are the Kv-2 and the FV4005 II, but they both have the same weakness, a massive turret with poor armour. The BZ-176 packs the punch of the FV as you say, AND it's a hulldown monster. Sure it has that weakspot on the gun cover, but it's nothing like the massive turrets of the other two.
agreed this should have been a semi glass cannon heavy, or at very least bigger cupola
not to mention its ouragues frontal armor. Even the lower and mid plate ive bounced countless times with 330/340 tier 10 HEAT rounds...other tanks sacrifice EVERYTHING to have such alpha, like fv4005, isu152, Kv2...this tank has it all. It could literally be a tier 10 and noone would complain
I seem to frequently miss that turret weak spot quickly hidden due in my aim time. In most cases I won't have any usable angle on it. Then I get those massive alpha shots traded. Apparently I'm not the only one.
I would pay 200 to 250 bucks hands down for that tank. Simply recover that by the insane profitablity.
In case I hadn't taken a break in that year from WoT I would own it.
Wargaming did an amazing great job to rebalance WoT - maps, tanks and everything.
This single massive virtual tank design glitch wasted tremendous effort of entire dev teams.
So no one gives them any praise for their hard work.
The Bz idea is utterly self-defeating and rips apart anything in WG quality control department.
At best WG would invite some volunteer players into a council on game balance to speak for the community.
I understand the may be a need for quick money at times. Hoever, this was planned well ahead for Xmas.
The surprise did take precedence over sanity once again.
Such council may be bound by terms of secrecy as they do like. In the long term the narcisstic psychopath stats inflaters always winning will run the entire game and render the whole X-million dollar biz unplayable. Stats resets are almost unmagenable. in case you cloned out some WoT classic before EBR updatemost players would opt for it, provided it had similar quality of life and maps improvements ets. EBR straight out ruined Frontline mode experience for everyone.
Since then we saw one after another tank trying to keep players engage frustrated by the faster EBR game. WG design department fell into creating insane copium tanks on a coveyor belt.
The real issue with the tank is unequal access. a 15 Bz-176 vs 15 Bz-176 in the queue would be a perfectl balances high skill contest. it would totally end all balancing discussion. People would play their Clan Wars in Tier 10 battles in BZ.176 ignoring thos 2 tiers. That thing is competitive against Tier 10s - at least like the better tier 9s with Tier 10 turrets and gun.
To be fair kv 2 doesn’t even have that bad of a turret, it can certainly bounce tier6/7 tanks from time to time. Although fv definitely has an abhorrent turret
KV-2 can't pen frontally almost every tanks it can face with HE.
I hate these things so much! Especially when you're playing a medium. You race to your starting position only to find one of these monstrosities already there hull down and ready to make 3/4 of your hit points disappear. Or if, by some miracle you get there first, they can just charge across the remaining distance while daring you to try and hit that narrow strip on the lowest plate or get the angle on the top of their turret. 'Cause even gold rounds aren't reliably going through anyplace else.
Hey you hate BZ-176 wanna see how I "NERF" them ?
I remember old WOT..
Its painful to think that we'll never have to that back. It wasn't perfect but it was enjoyable! Now days WOT is almost all about premium vehicles and stuff!
I agree I miss old WOT. Now I wait and hope and pray for Steel Aces to be something good.
That’s the way of the game. No money no game. And players still pay money for it, they keep buying bz176 and other premium stuffs
Honestly the wot nowadays has many improvements over old wot it would be unfair to say that old wot was simply better. But i have to agree that wot nowadays isnt as enjoyable as before. Powercreep, questionable tank design (forcing players to use gold to have any fun cuz of too strong armor/lack of weakspots of most new tanks), boring hulldown meta... It seems to happen in many games that are out for more than 5-10 years like league of legends, dota or even war thunder.
@@tungdapzai A game can be made profitable without having pay to win aspect to it. You can go for different skins, model enhancements etc. Other games have successfully done it and WOT can too.
@@SmallPotato2313 See, in my opinion improvements matters only if they can attract more player base and retain current ones. We have to look at game as a single entity and not as fragments of improvements implemented by designers. As I said earlier, old game version was not perfect in overall sense but game was enjoyable. Players didn't outraged as much they do these days.
T8 FV with great armour, utterly unbelievable this isn’t being patched with great urgency. Pay to win continues to get out of hand
Yup game is being ruined and we can only watch
Man it’s sad to see. Unfortunately I feel like this will continue cuz players continue to buy these tanks, which enables war gaming to continue to sell tanks like these.
lol i was in the enemy team, we were like lemmings... 😆
I saw players spam "Nerf BZ-176" on every community post on Wargaming WoT channel
This same thing happened YEARS ago when WG released the type 59 before the Chinese tech tree went into the game. Everyone had them and at their release, they were almost invincible. They destroyed MM for a while until WG finally nerfed the hell out of it.
It is the definition of oppressive. Whenever there is a bz on enemy team playing t6-8 mm it is basically like playing hide and seek. Because if you come across it, you will lose.
Honestly, the premium rounds being HE should have less penetration than the standard AP rounds, especially with 800 dmg. It would be a good way to balance the tank.
Cheers for your honesty sherlock
The tank also has great gun handling, great armor and decent speed
This is the old Type5 at tier 8
The lower plate isn't nearly as good and you can overmatch the gun housing roof with bigger calibers... but yes. And it's more mobile when it has the rockets going.
@@Steamrick I'm referring to the old derp gun of the Type5
With the 1,100 alpha and the higher pen on the gold
But Much better that the type 5
No mention to the Ferdinand that crashed in the end?? 😂
They could stealth nerf this thing by giving it the equivalent opposite of pref matchmaking. Only seeing t8 or above. I think it would be less popular and be easier to deal with. If I'm higher tier than one I make it my mission to make their game quick and miserable 🎉
All they have to do is nerf the roof armor by 1-2mm and it would be hugely impacted
This tank can do better in t9-10 battles bcs of more hit points they carry
but that doesnt make it worse. Actually, reverse pref. mm would be good for bz, because when you shoot at tier 6 and 7 tanks, they usually doesnt even have as much health as your alpha damage...
It is hard for Tier 9s and Tier 10s to deal with it. It is like a better Tier 9 tank with Tier 10 gun & turret unlocked.
Just give it to everyone and put it on permant sale.
15 Bz-176 vs 15 Bz-176 are perfectly balanced. WG wouldn't lose money but get enough fast.
Like everyone has a Progetto 46 by now.
I know some tech tree tanks have it so that they see higher tier matches than other tanks of equivalent tier (ex vk 30.06m), so doing the same for the BS 176 would be fantastic.
0:46 Wow, no wonder they shouldn’t sell this again, it has a turret traverse speed of 1000 degrees a second!
🤣i missed that
Not sure how it works in the UK, but here in the EU it goes like this: if they change it (nerf or move up a tier) they will have to refund players all the (millions) of EUR they had spent to get this tank. As an example, if one has known that he/she would have gotten in max. 100 boxes and he/she indeed got it in box No100 - such person would be entitled to getting the full refund for all those boxes. The only valid option for WG is not to sell it again in predictable future, like they once did with Type 59 and like they are doing with premium EBR 75 right now.
Exactly. Imagine you buy a BMW but it gets replaced by a Ford some months later. Who would buy BMWs?
I'm sure there is a clause somewhere in the ToS that lets Wargaming do whatever they want to the tank. It's their property, you just bought the rights to use it.
@@mahazroko6753 I am sure there is, but the next day the company's reputation would be tarnished for ever. Who would buy a digital product from WG knowing that they can change it at their whim, overnight? Even the mafia have a code of honour.
yeah, right, if they change it you wont get shit, pretty sure they can do whatever they want with premium tanks, they just dont mess around it because they will lose trust
well legally by "buying" a premium tank you just get the right to use the property of WG, so no legal basis for refunds actually. the super pershing situation and its refunds were mere appeasement to WG's costumers
The thing I hate most about this tank is the armor being too good. When tanks like the Skoda t56 and bourrasque dump there mags into me, at least I have a chance to pen them back, but with the Bz-176, I find myself always bouncing or missing the tiny lower plate it has.
agreed, I wouldnt mind it if it had a bigger weak point to shoot
Škoda T56's turret is unpenable. You can't pen it, and since that's the case, most Škoda's go hull down. Renegade has too high alpha damage, Škoda has too high alpha and turret armor, BZ-176 has too high alpha, too high overall armor, and rocket boosters turn it into a battering ram. Bourrasque is such a nuisance and is OP in terms of gun alpha damage, mobility and view range/camo.
Dishonorable mention: Iron Arnie is awfully annoying with spaced armor.
Bunch of OP tanks. If I was a dev, I'd either nerf the hell out of these tanks, remove them entirely and compensate players, or buff every other non OP tank in the game.
@@astanisystems but Skoda T56 does not have -10 degrees gun depression... and it's long and unmaneuverable...
@@-saklo-2256 Maybe, but it's gun should at least be nerfed in terms of alpha damage, or reload time on it could be increased. In my experience, Škoda T56 is much harder to deal with than one might think. You need two tanks to outflank it and kill it, as one on one approach nearly always results in a failure. Tank is OP, and that deserves a notice.
Thank you @Quickybaby for making review of my play and this OP tank!
I do agree this tank is very OP.
However, let's be fair, the enemies in this replay played like massive idiots. They would have died to a more balanced tank as well with the way they played.
well not really the armor of bz176 just made it this way that he managed to win the game. Any other premium tank in this game would be 2 times dead or would be able to cause this amount of dmg... He literally two shots the 50Tp prototype. Show me other premium tank that can do it with 176hp left ....
Now imagine that instead of BZ-176, the highlighted player in the video used the M4A1 rev or AMX CDC.
If the player still managed to stay alive and deal damage like this, then that's a great one.
Otherwise, from the spectator pov, it was a boring game
@@kamikakushi_ Yes compare Armored heavy to paper mediums. Very smart.
@@StronkiTubeYea whatever, don't really care. Not playing anymore anyway tho my point still stands.
The player in the video showed us how laid back can you be in an OP tank.
Doesn't matter if the enemy is smart enough to turn around, to avoid the chokehold in the valley or not, the result would still be the same if the player did not use a BS tank like this one.
Don't believe me? make the ground resistance worse, triple the reload time and remove the BS jetpack.
The enemy would have a bigger chance of winning if RNG allow them, even with those questionable move by enemy Tigers
@@kamikakushi_ you're acting as if I don't think the BZ is OP.
If this tank ever receives a nerf then other broken premium tanks like the Bourrasque, EVEN-90 and Skoda T56 should receive it too but I highly doubt the community won't demand for refunds like with the Type 59/SuperPershing episode. I suspect this tank will return for Christmas in the lootboxes and that's sad.
Hey you do you hate BZ-176 ? Want me to show you how I "Nerf" them ?
Skoda is OP, but not broken.
X-Mas Boxes going to be wild this year.
Turtle and BZ-176😂
(my personal prediction)
Imagine just playing your new tier 6 heavy tank just to get yeeted by this thing while you can't hope to pen it or even fight back
yeah imagined you seeing 1x IS 3 , 1x AMX 50 100 vs 1x BZ 176 , 1 skoda T56 you can guess what its gonna be happen 😅
Problem is the skoda and bz can both remove a huge amount of health very quickly . The amx has a giant clip but if the skoda clips him then the bz can just 1 shot the amx and then its 1v2 for the Is3
YES
same goes for tier 10, Just had el halluf, kpz chieftain vs fv215 obj 277, u can guess what happened
Skoda is so overrated. Great tank, but not even close to BZ 176 great
@@deadzeddicious3684 i domt think it's overated to be honest. I agree that bz is better because of armor ,gun depresion and alpha. But skoda i a little more competetive. Overall mobility is better and it doesnt have a durp gun. Which means it can hit more often and has higher pen so its better against t9+ higher
Since we have tier 9 premiums now, WG may want to consider shifting the BZ-176 up a tier. I would be happy to see it moved up to tier 9 as it is or with a small HP increase.
Actually a good idea. Even at T9 this thing would still be very strong.
Exactly. Although even then, the gun should still be addressed. Give it 238 AP pen and 190 HE.
That exactly what I was thinking. Horrible when you see this matched up with tier 6 and 7s who can do nothing to it. And I've seen where two show up on one team and none on the other. There's no "just play better" with that situation.
That's *exactly* the nerf that I think the BZ should get. Give it something like 250-300 extra HP and buff the standard pen, and it'd be more than fine at Tier 9. But I'd still nerf the gold HE pen after that to make it less toxic.
@@theroyle7098 No. It already fights Tier 9 and 10 as it is and it does fine. They should shift it to Tier 9 and do literally nothing to it.
They HAVE to nerf the BZ-176, its way to OP..
Also, thank you so much QuickyBaby for making this video and calling out the bz-176 problem in the name of the wot community! I really hope wargaming will see this and finally nerf this tank as it should be
Every CC has been saying this since the BZ was released.
They will nerf it the same way as they nerfed Škoda t56 .. they will release something more OP on Christmas :,)
Personally I want some of the stuff that the WG balancing department is having. It must be something else. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
True they haven't sold the tank by itself but by putting it in loot boxes .... I don't see WG nerfing it when it has so much hype as being OP. They would rather cut off their nose to spite their faces. Greed is too powerful at WG HQ.
I haven’t played the last couple years and for some reason I got the urge to come back, and it’s unbelievable. I feel like all the new t8 premiums are literally just tier 9s with a few less hp. T8 is hardly playable but I feel like t6 and t7 are completely unplayable, those used to be my escape tiers to relax but now they’re even worse than 8, 9, 10
Roll out in your tier 6 prem tank to blow of some steam only to get yeeted into the shadow realm by the BZ...good luck fighting back if you survive the first shell
If you get in a game against 2 tier plus, yolo and die ASAP. That's the secret to having fun in this game.
Actually, I'm feeling comfortable only in tier 10 these days..
i have that tank and don't play it a whole lot. but its nice to have when so many people are playing chieftons and 279e's and other OP clan wars tanks. its nice to have one of the OP tanks as a regular guy
I didn’t get it at Christmas, wouldn’t mind it selling again so I can get it 😂. I’m pretty sure WG has already passed the point of “greed over balance”
I think adding a new mode "tech tree only" would be a nice addition to let people play the game without all the OP premiums. Even a "NO GOLD TECH TREE ONLY" mode would be wonderful. It would certainly have me back playing alot more with it being balanced.
give this man some upvotes
No gold tech tree? Hell no 😂
Just think about E3, Maus, the buffed VK and more if gold isn't available anymore. It would destroy the game and just shift the meta tanks
So basically a mode for poor people?
You have to understand thst if you aren't in their category of a payer, you're just there to be cannon fodder for their customers.
This is a pay to win game, so you have to lose this mentality that they care about you if you spend less than 500 USD per year.
You are fodder for the payers. Your opinions do not matter to them, heck the payers opinion doesn't even matter.
All they care about is the payers cash flow. They care to optimize how much the payer pays, and that is quite literally the only metric they care about because players like you, constantly hoping for improvement and giving them the benefit of the doubt where there is no doubt left, prove to them that they have no leash at all, and that you will always stay to be fodder.
The payers also show they are happy to pay for advantages as long as they can keep up their delusions that the game is fair and that their credit cards aren't a significant part of what makes them "skilled".
Before I get the usual knee-jerk comment, before I stopped playing this game, my recents were super purple. I understood the mechanics of this game better than most. If 1000 players were in a room, I would most likely be the best player there.
That is not to brag, I find it no brag at all, as I too was a payer.
Instead, I only note this to preempt the usual attempts to discredit the message by people who would prefer remaining in denial by cheaply dismissing honest critics of a game they like to play and love to remain in denial with when talking about its balance.
@@BeefIngot you understand business model very well.
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WG can do only one thing about that abomination, moving it one tier higher
next year this is gonna be a "normal" premium tank like what the defender turned into...
I played that AMX Cda 105 and if I hadn't rolled over in that fight I would have killed the BZ -176 for sure and the second shell that pierced it was from my tank hunter..However they gave me players who stared to die in that fight ..
The Forest Spirit in the first game..... wow... players like this made me stop playing, because i myself play too bad (50-51%) to carry them, so they drag me down with them.
He sat in a useless corner for the whole game, did 0 dmg, then drowned himself bc "the round was lost", instead of even trying to help + denying the enemy team the dmg.... i hate them...
I have this tank and when I play it I see nines and tens a lot more than anything else plus half the times the shells do not penetrate and they low roll more often than not of course that's if they hit the target because the accuracy of this tank is so poor against this tank you never let it reload and after it's fired you all rush and kill very easy to take out
Also these things never miss … I get snapshotted by these more then basically any other tank it makes no sense
this!
Bullshit, the gun handling is pretty atrocious, and you can miss plenty of fully aimed shots
If WG can't/won't nerf the thing, they can at least do the thing they do with wheeled vehicles where in the MM, it's matched up against another BZ-176 on the enemy team.
They never sold the EBR 75 FL anymore, so I suppose it'll be the same with this behemoth of a tank.
I'm on NA with a 48% win rate (trending up) and I am at 52% win rate in the BZ 176. I don't play it as much because I can't afford using all the gold. I got better at it by seeing what other players were doing with their equipment.
I really enjoy the t7. It's fantastic.
They should make the turret penable by premium rounds
best is when you have a platoon of 3 of them on other team and your team has none, and you are in a tier 6
I remember the good old days when premium tanks were equal or slightly worse than their tech tree counterparts. This tank should have 5 degrees of gun depression, less armor and/or be slower.
I think it can be move to tier 9 and change some bits.
This tank came out when i grind my Italian Heavy line, yeah. That was FUN
I’m always on the receiving end of a 900+ dmg hit from this thing! Absolutely bonkers!!!
It's a tier 10 tank as a tier 8 premium. I fully expect this tank to come back in Christmas boxes because it's too easy for them to make money that way. No integrity, just P2W.
I bet ya this tank will be sold as part of this year's Xmas lootboxes
i still think that they will put it in the winter holidays box.
To be honest whilst this showed some of its attributes, really helped by the muppets lining up to be disposed of. Still you can only play what is in front of you.
I just recovered my account yesterday and got a 10yrs on board reward, and when I met the BZ 176 in a match, I was shocked to how much it can destroy any vehicle in a Tier VIII match. Every game I played there was 2-6 BZ 176🙃🙃
I remember the old time that WoT put Type 59 on sale and then took away and never put on sale anymore. Until maybe to year 2020-2021, they finally put Type 59 on sale in shop. So it will be the same with BZ-176 and T-832 sale on shop with some change of nerf and buff of these 2 tanks.
Wargamjng “ok we don’t sell this one, this year in Christmas loot boxes Yuri we sell double barreled Russian version!”
Fully upgraded,100% crews many skills with BiA,bond/special equipments,directives and food. I got 0.35m dispersion for freaking 160mm gun..DAMNN
This tank is why my IS-M has spall liner in one of its builds.
Ive been waiting for a LONG time for him to post a video addressing this tank.... im very surprised we havent seen something sooner. this tank is always just rediculous everytime its in a match. he's right, it really does ruin the match when one side has them and the other doesnt.
i got this tank first from the lootboxes and felt so dirty driving it for a few rounds. Haven't touched it since.
BZ-176 should just be move up a teir to teir 9
along we some other teir 8 powerful premiums like Iron Arnie.
It would be better as they make more ingame profits and WG is could gain a bit more cash without touching the stats
oh, but it will. Last week, for limited quantity, it was put on sale on Chinese server for roughly $62 USD
Does Wg run the asia sever, i thought it was a separate company that leased the game like the russia server
@@theroyle7098Chinese server is different from ASIA server. ASIA is run by WG while Chinese one, who know
I really love how if they literally just nerf the BZ 176 than tier 6-8 will literally be so much more enjoyable while also fixing matchmaking and saving games, as it is right now everytime i see one im just genuinely hopeless unless im in a confident team that actually knows how to use teamwork, but thats rare
Props to the best paid actor of this game: the Ferdinand that crashed off screen. Free 'kill' is free
Mine is still sitting in my garage. Not one game played yet. I should get it out and take it for a spin. I might put quickly baby commander in it lol.
I'm at a point I dont even play in my tier 6, 7, 8 or even 9 tanks when there is a BZ176 in the game.
That ebr death was the hardest death I’ve ever seen.
The only loot boxes I've ever purchased were the ones that gave out the BZ 176.
My list of top 5 "best ideas" of WG balance department: BZ, Skoda T56, 268/4, stun mechanic, French wheeled LT.
The BZ-166 is a april fools joke compared to the BZ-176
cough, jgp e100, cough, death star, cough, all SPGs before nerf, cough, shit barn, cough, ISU-152, cough waffle tractor, cough. damn i must be coming down with something
I was going to buy boxes that time, but I didn’t want to get this tank. It’s so bad for the game that I voted against it by not spending.
And to think the bl 10 on the isu152 used to be considered toxic that WG had it removed.
Don’t nerf the BZ, just make every other tank it can meet better :)
Totally fine as is! IF and ONLY if, all tanks around this are buffed lol
This tank is like the old version of the kv1s. Most of the time I’ll go the opposite way of the bz176 so I don’t have to face it
I'm something like an 8 year veteran recently coming back, I'll quit for good if this ever gets resold
I see only one solution: WG has to make the step and nerf premium tanks again!
That this tank can see tier 6 is just outrageous!
Wholesom beggining with the tiger 2 in beggining
The simplest solution is to move BZ-176 to Tier X. It already has stats that enable it to challenge them, just throw some extra HP to fit the rest and it's done.
Cuz the worst thing this tank does, is 1shot T6's.
good I have it and hope they never sell it on the shop
I see three things they can do. First, just change it to a tier 9, with no other changes. Or, they give it reverse pref-MM. Where it never sees tier 6 or 7 tanks. Or they can change the ammo to give the HE round like, 100mm of pen.
I got one and obviously it's a blast to play but it is very broken. It would probably be fine with a some pen off the HE rounds. Even bringing it to 208 would help
I actually took a year away from WOT when this tank came out because half my games I was just getting two tapped from positions that not even the fast heavies could get into. Like where is the fun WOT that had premium tanks that were worse then their same tier tanks. It's just shameful to what wargambling has done with their games.
They can also do like people can not pluton in them and like wheel light tanks, one on each team.
I'm one of those players who got the BZ-176 in loot boxes; a handful gifted to me by two friends (got the non-rental Projekt 283 as well). I'm pretty terrible in the BZ-176; apparently I'm not very good at playing heavies.
They havent sold the ebr either ever since release. So fingers crossed...
I personally feel awful at times when I’m playing my BZ176. It’s “balanced” when I’m in a tier 9 or 10 lobby, but when I fight equal tier or lower I come out with 5k damage and a plethora of kills with minimal effort. Sucks, but I do agree that it needs either a nerf or to never be released again.
I stopped playing for 3 or 4 months after it was released and ever since then I've never recovered my previous amount of hours spent here.
Also love how the bz 60 something at tier 8, the normal tank, is so much worse than this
I got one of these from the boxs, still not played it yet, the thing is so broken, I don't wanna ruin other folks fun so easily.
BZ176 was somewhat balanced before it was released, with a more conventional gun (ap/heat/he) and with that 29mm gun weakspot...
I do agree. Russian 703 II, which is a great tank, imo, has difficulties fighting BZ. Slow vs BZ, slow reload time, and low penetration.
And tech tree T8 BZ is awful.. :D
Additional with map banned, need at least 1 option for tank banned too.
One of many reasons I think WG have lost the plot. Played for 10 years and the game has never been in such a mess.
As someone who has a BZ, I also don't want it to be sold again ;)
It bewilders me that they removed the roof deck overmatch