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Should Ian Upgrade to the SIM2?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Ian puts his favourite driver ever (SIM) up against its replacement to see if there is any performance advantages to be had for him with the new model!
0:00 // Intro
3:21 // SIM2
5:35 // Ian's SIM
7:19 // Modification
8:48 // Results & Conclusions
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Upgrading every year is insane to most of us out here. I would suggest that most of us are the ones with 5 or 6, even 7 or 8 year old drivers. I would like to see a video test taken from that perspectives and what you guys recommend. Enjoy your channel very much.
Love the honesty. Love the approach. Love the lack of click bait and no crappy music.
My 5 year old daughter hums the intro when I watch TXG vids
Good call. I'm sticking with my SIM (I'm back & forth between Ventus Blue & Black), I just don't see the need to mess with it.
First shot from Ian - “slightly high....slightly toe....”. guy is a wizard. Keep crushing it boys!
Ian, I give you a week before you transition into the new SIM2 just like me. Come on i just ordered the new SIM 2 All blacked out with the baby blue trim and Graphite Design Tour AD HD shaft and MCC black and baby blue grip. We gotta change the game. Love the channel. You just made me want to be a club fitter. Cheers to you and Matty Boy!
I may be old school Ian but, for the SIM 2 you could always add a little lead tape to the base to get the same effect as the slider. I found for me, it worked wonders on my old driver. I just purchased the SIM in early December and already have seen the changes via the slider in the virtual golf testing. With hopes the virtual golf locations will reopen soon in Edmonton, AB and I can continue testing. My slider statistically and feel wise currently works best in a slightly heel position but, more data required. Great video guys.....
I'm so nervous. If he decides to upgrade, I'll be tempted to upgrade as well... I can't afford this channel.
🤣🤣
LOL
You can't afford to NOT have this channel. $$ is temporary, golf is forever.
Throw in the Autoflex while you're at it!
Mike, neither can i but i keep watching! I love Ian and Matty best channel on TH-cam Period! Sim2 here we come. Especially with the custom color option. OMG!
It's always fun when the boys swop roles and it's noticeable how confident Matty now is behind the desk.
But I have to admit that I'm shocked, I never thought that I would hear Ian say that he would like to see less Blue, ever. I believe that an earth tremor was felt at Ibrox as he said it!🤣🤦♂️
I felt the tremor in Toronto too!
@@robcoates5253 LOL though that could have been Whisker farting 🤣🤦♂️ take care and see you on the Live show on Monday👍
Ian, the best I have seen you getting thru the ball. Keep up the great work pal !!
Ooooooo....TSi3 vs. SIM teaser at the end of the video! YEESSSSSSSSSSSS!
Can’t wait to see this one!
I fit myself into the SIM with following the channel. I need the low spin and my miss is opposite of Ian, low heel with an open face. So I did the opposite of Ian, I upped the loft to close the face and moved the weight heel side. And my driving last year was a greater strength like Ian’s.
Great to hear Michael!! 👏🏻
He may like Sim, but dispersion with sim2, So much tighter!
The yellow circle was smaller. Wouldn't that mean the old was more consistent?
Probably already posted but the Velocore Ventus at Golf Galaxy has been corrected. +$250 up charge as I’m sure was intended. That had quite the drive to the GG site when you guys discussed it this morning. Thanks for this. SIM is safe I suspect for the season. It’s just made for Ian...will be interesting to see SIM2 in 8degree head opened up
Ian, I like that pre swing activation move with the right leg.
"OLD faithful" = 12 month old driver 😭
True - my old faithful is a PING G20 - sounds better and hits as well as anything ........
😂😂, industry perks I guess.
@@davidgroom9667 I got a friend that rocks that g20 with a ad gi6, what shaft r u liking
Had Sim with a ACCRA TZ5M4 in it and drove it great. I changed just for changes sake to a TSi3 same shaft and it's just not the same. I may need to get the Sim back. TSi3 feels like you can't have a bad day or it can get a little loose.
Hope wife #1 is not too jealous of those 300 yd beauties. Congrats Ian on the work you put into your speed. We can all see the gains
Jeez us! CRUSHING the ball!!!
Can you do a video on how you’ve managed to get to 165-170+ mph ballspeed from your previous 145mph?
I barely know if I have hit the face or the hosel some days an Ians calling 11mm out the toe.. i need to practice more 😬
Me: Ready for another TXG video!
Matt: Welcome the the channel.
Me: Did not expect that...
I work in a pro shop, and I spoke with the Taylormade rep in October/November about the lack of toe weight. He was focused on how TM were advocating changing the loft to move ball flight, not the sliding weight. I was trying to explain about how the lack of sliding weight would affect CG alignment, and unfortunately he just wasn't getting it, so I had to give it up. (Not that he would go change the design anyway lol.)
I do think taking it away will have a detrimental impact to some people (myself included), but probably not for a lot of people. Will be interested to test it myself!
Love the Ian fits !!! Keep em going
This is the result I expected, the taller face was not appealing to me either. Once you set the original SIM down it's just so pleasing and comfortable at address.
I read the title and thought yeah I just bought this TXG TShirt and BucketHat I’m not a real fitter. 👍 I predict the next video “Mr. Fraser Favourite Quotes “From My Cold, Dead Hands”
your swing is looking so smooth...
118moh club head speed?!? Ian is a secret beast 💪💪💪
I’m not gonna lie, this is the first time I’ve seen Ian on the mat hitting balls and wow, he gets it out there 💪🏻👍🏻👏🏻
Yes and he has legs, not seen them before either!
Watch the video of them on the course. Puts a new perspective on it.
Ian is taking a much more aggressive cut these days.
SIM2 MAX w/60-S Kuro Kage Silver 5th gen!!!!! I played the SIM from last season w/the Ventus Blue 6-S and there is no comparison. I have played 2 rounds w/the SIM2 MAX and have only missed 2 fairways. No joke. I have always considered myself a pretty good driver of the Golf Ball and always played Callaway products for years. Now, I am all TaylorMade!!! The sound, feel, and performance blows the competition away this year in my opinion
I’m looking at TSI but was hoping the SIM2 would be a contender, taking the movable weight away is a mistake IMO. Having the adjustable weight essentially gives you multiple drivers, for people who are still working on their game the driver setup that works at the beginning of the year might be totally different at the end of the year. $500+ is to much for a single dimensional club
I don’t see how less fitting tools is better for any one. Old SIM won’t be beat for a while. It will be like 2016 M2.
So keep my old M2 for another season. 👌
Or the 2017 M1
Couldn't agree more. I've been saying the same thing since we saw pre release images and the TM faithful have been really sensitive to it. But for me the weight tracks have been a useful innovation, to take them away is a strange thing to do but also contradicting to all of their previous marketing.
I traded my M2 and got fit for the original Sim 6 mos ago and gained 10-12 yards AND I hit more fairways..
@@saintcruzin how do you like the sim. Currently have 2016 M2 and I’m inbetween either the sim1/sim2 or sim max/ sim2 max
I feel the same as Ian, but with my M6. I tried SIM last year and it didn’t do much for me and I felt like I had a much more confident swing with my M6. I still love it that much that I will just stick with it for 2021.
I had an M5 driver an absolutely loved it! Upgraded it for the SiM max because of the extra few yards. But miss my fairway finder M5! Grass isn’t always greener!
I'd like to see Ian put the PXG proto up against his SIM and the TSI3... The proto gave amazing results with the weight in the toe and ball speed over 170mph. I know you are not a PXG stockists but I'm interested in trying one after that initial review.
Just got fit by Bryan LaRoche and changed out my Sim 9° played at 7 for a Sim 2 10.5° played at 8.5°. My issue was driving penalties (losing balls left and right) so we went with a tad more spin with the Sim 2 although I lost about 20 or so yards. Will probably just take some getting used to to get my distance back but at least 95% of my drives are on or near the fairway. Got Bryan building the rest of my set at the moment Sim2 3 wood and 4-P P770s. Still gotta do my wedge fitting.
Wow! Y’all through me for a loop with Matty boy saying “welcome back to the channel” lol
Not to harp on about the weight track... but. Its amazing what that sliding weight adds getting it behind the strike..
Nice video. Id like the idea of Ian testing TSi3 😍
Of the shots shown, it did seem like the left misses with the Sim, were more left, and the right misses were more right. The Sim2 was straighter even when slightly more heal/toe shots.
Agreed. The dispersion circle on that Sim2 was tiny!
Hey, I saw something I might have a suggestion on: Matty was hovering the cursor on top of the numbers that matter the most which is very helpful, might you change the cursor so it is easier to follow, into a hollow circle for example? Thanks for the great content guys!
And put the spin rate where we can find it! It always eludes me 😁
Great episode, proves you’re truly golf nerds looking for incremental improvements yet need to be confident with the club. We’ll all give up a 5 yard gain with a new driver for comfort and confidence of our Gamer. Fun to see Ian in the tunnel
Thanks you guys...This helped me a lot.... My current driver is the M3 and I really like it... was considering an upgrade to the Sim or the Sim 2 but I need the adjustable slide weight which the Sim 2 doesnt have. So I will go for the Sim.
Ian truly has a gorgeous looking swing
Finally here! Which beast is going in the bag 💪
It's so nice to see your driver swing and results. I am soooo ready to get a new driver (been floating on warranty TM drivers when I crack the face or they get a rattle for a long time now... heck, I even crack the irons sometimes.). I'm going to be doing a full on golf trip when I turn 50 in a couple of years, and I'd really like to find the Iain driver for my swing. I'm 47, still can drive it over 300 yard greens (when I'm no in the fairway to the left or right of me), and am wondering how much fitting we could possibly do over email or something.As always, enjoyed the video and can't wait to see what's next!!
I finally upgraded form a R1 haha to a SIM. Won’t be upgrading for a while.
Already got my SIM2 with Fuji Ventus black on order with TM. :)
My Ss is about the same as Ian’s but can only carry it about 260... def time to upgrade from my r15... lol
I think we definitely saw the difference between the confidence of hitting the 2. You could tell you’d be hitting Sim all year. Sim2’s dispersion was ridiculously good compared to Sim
The dispersion I much bigger with sim or am I wrong
We should only refer to this driver The Elder Wand! Credit Johnny Wunder.
It really looked to me like the SIM 2 was the better flight and dispersion. 5 yards is 5 yards but those shots were tight and consistent.
The dispersion was really good with both. My biggest miss was 19 or 20 yds left which is still in most fairways so i’ll take the extra ball speed and distance.
When’s the driver bracket coming , wanna see where radspeed , Srixon and epic speed make it
Test them out yourself mate.. his data will be completely different than yours
@@mattdavenport7596 I know but I’m just and average player and I don’t have a place where I live to test clubs so I just like to get there feed back and do research . Cheers
@@wnfakind9197 that srixon seems nice with virt the same numbers and a higher launch
While you can't compare sessions on a different day (nor really compare anything without the club being swung by a robot), you can take a look at each "review", and take a look at the average efficiency of each club and also the average ball speed:average distance ratio to work out the theoretical longest driver.
That being said, there's a reason people are fit into different clubs. Certain club characteristics will match certain swing/player characteristics.
You may find that the best fit for you, might be the worst performing for Matt/Ian.
@@wnfakind9197 pretty well every manufacturer does demo days on courses and driving ranges in every location imaginable. They should have them listed on their websites. You might find something happening close to you!
I'm still using a driver from like 2006. Never felt like changing still good.
Quite a few of Ian's shots have the face open to the path. Is it purely the minor (MINOR!) toe side strike that giving the ball it's right to left spin?
Eg @ 7:49 : path - 2.5° i/o, face - 3.2° open, strike - 6mm toe = side spin of 137L RPM.
your swing is a thing of beauty. dont understand why the two of you are not on tour
Giving it the ole beans
Apples to oranges with club head speed and totals. Dispersion on sim2 says you were controlling your swing better? Maybe taking down the 2-3 mph club head speed?
Ian! I'm also ~6 in to out and ~6+ up - any good drills or mental cues to work on getting more neutral? That's my next big hurdle!
Would like to see him try the rad speed too!
rad speed with some hotmelt ftw
So pissed about TaylorMade tbh...I love the clubs so much. But the marketing makes me want to buy the new one. They make customers spend thousands then year after they say “wow this is better” LOL I hate marketing ugggggh
I know one look Ian won’t get over, and that’s the Epic speed. Doubt it will even get in the shop with those colours.😀
Confidence over technology... everytime!
Great content guys!!
Amazing how much speed you have added in the past year or so.
👊🏻
You’ve always said confidence adds a couple miles per hour. I think.that was a big factor
you both all ways do a great job love watching you keep the great job up
See the shot at 8:22-23, does the ball flight even make sense given the open club face and center strike? It should be a slice , not a draw. Or the club data of gcquad is actually off??
Ian the first half of my premonition in Instagram to you last just came true.......lets see how this progression goes and if you tweak it enough when you get your custom one to switch haha
I definitely bought a SIM2 from golf galaxy today with the ventus bkue velocore for no upcharge. Let’s hope it fits! Or else it’ll be for sale quick!
How did you get the Ventus blue with VeloCore for no upcharge?
@@wesboothe6507 golf galaxy. If you hurry you can probably get one before they make a change.
Looks like they took it down I couldn’t find it
@@wesboothe6507 yup. Just looked. They fixed it.
Both of you should be gaming 2019 Mizuno ST190s. Greatest driver ever
8 degree set 6.5 degree!? Ian is an animal going Bryson on us. Great video though, seems like Sim 2 is extremely similar to last years model. May need to start looking through the second hand market for a bargain and then retro fit.
Does a RH hosel in a LH head reverse the settings..+1 is -1 ??
It comes to something when you colour coordinate your top to the driver Ian....;)
Great content guys! This is my favorite golf TH-cam channel. Question for you Ian, the M5 head weighs about 6-7 grams more than the SIM. Are you putting a heavier weight in the SIM to bring it to about 200g (without adapter)?
does more left on a driver ie 12 degree make it easier to draw or lower like 8 degrees ,,because i find a 7 easy to draw but cant draw a 45 degree wedge
"That's one of your longest"... when they all carry 305 is it really longest at 307 :)
Question for you, Did you feel that SIM 2 was fast in the high part of the head? fast in the low part of the head? toe?
None of the current heads are particularly quick high in the head. Slightly low of centre is fastest part for ball speed.
Ian should go back and revisit the PXG Proto he hit so well and then abandoned.
Was excited to try all these new drivers but my expectations of finding one that will blow me away are gone. At least this year. With limits on speed and MOI, I just don't know what new technology they could put in a driver to make anything so much better than what's already out there.... Think I'll just spend that money on some custom fit wedges 🤷
Honesty
Love it
So, Ian, your dispersion was better with the SIM 2. If you're only giving up 7 yards (at 300+, which is not significant) but you can literally point and shoot down the middle, how was the SIM 2 not an improvement?
The dispersion was really good with both. My biggest miss was 19 or 20 yds left which is still in most fairways so i’ll take the extra ball speed and distance.
So far as I have seen this month, the sim is better than the sim2 and I would expect it to sell less as taylormade’s customers staying with their sim rather than switching
I’ll buy the driver yardage results of the Sim2....
What was strange for me to see was that when you added loft, thereby closing the face, it reduced the amount of right to left. Could that be explained by strike moving more central as well as the slight increase in backspin negating the side spin a little?
I have similar tendencies to Ian, yet at age 56, everything is around 5 - 7 mph slower (108 - 110 club / 155 - 160 ball) with high launch and high spin.
Will we see more comparaison of low spining vs more forgiving head in the future? If the more forgiving head’s crank down in loft with a very tip stiff shaft to deliver low spin as well what’s in it to go for the smaller and more punishing head?
Dang, Ian upped his speed lately? consistent over 165 mph ball speed and looks quite easy.
why would you use a sub zero rogue? good honest review tho. That is what we want. thank you.
I’d like to see a video of where to stick the QCQUAD dot on every driver. Some shapes are confusing me
Doesn’t matter.
Honestly, I thought the Sim 2 looked better - every ball flight looked nearly identical. The 8 head, maybe opened 1 click might be the perfect 'automatic' gamer
Lol, I didn't work on increasing my ball speed to 170 last year to start giving it away. My Arccos data had me at +5hcp driving last year so accuracy isn't a struggle for me. I’d need to see accuracy plus distance gains to switch out.
Noticed Ian's SS jumps between SIM and SIM2. How much of that is comfort and how much of that might be the driver?
Gets to the end of the video. Question gets answered. :) Nice work boys. Nice work.
Just go Sim2 lol always going to be playing good out on the course with the new new
I think your “toe shots” are a little different than our “toe shots”… haha
Golf Galaxy appears to have caught onto the ventus velacore being a no cost upgrade. Its now $250 on the SIM2.
sad
I’m re-watching this with anticipation of the new stealth plus driver. Perhaps it is the perfect combination of the two drivers plus the new carbon face technological advancement that will rule them all! 🤷♂️ 🤣
🤐😂
I am wondering if TM brings back the draw / fade adjustability next year.
I find both driver have the same distance but the SIM2 is more forgiving for me
got to go murdered out on the mysim for sure.
if youtube keeps bombarding us with more and more ads, people are going to start to hate every product/co advertised on youtube.
I choose the club that has the least draw or left side bias. SIM FTW.
Driver technology is not getting good enough to change. New SIM 2 is £399 and the SIM is now £260. Buy a SIM and some new wedges 👍