Force Gurkha 5-door | Indian G-Wagen | evo India
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- 2024 Force Gurkha is here complete with 5-doors. Arriving a few months before the 5-door Mahindra Thar, the updated Force Gurkha also gets more power, more torque, more ground clearance, a digital cluster and bigger infotainment screen, revised suspension tuning and better refinement. It also gets shift-on-the-fly 4x4 along with three locking differentials along with best-in-class 233mm ground clearance. But it still lacks an automatic gearbox. Is the worth your attention? Editor Sirish Chandran tests the Desi G-Wagen
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The Gurkha gets 2 locking diffs, i.e. in the front and rear. Apologies for the mistake in the video.
In the world full of Cretas and elevates this is the Last of the Real SUV ✨⭐ old school chram 🔥
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Yeah!
Those ceiling AC vents be giving safari dicor vibes
Ohh yeah !
Well then go ahead and reclaim your life. 😂😂
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@@pradhyudh😂😂😂
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This has potential to be the next car for wildlife sanctuary Safaris.
They’re using the Trax already for it
Would you buy it for your next adventure?
@@evoIndia the 7 seat configuration is tempting, but I'll still wait for the 5 door thar, considering it'll probably have an automatic gearbox, and a better power band.
@@sirishch India 😂
They won't spend 16 L for public services 😂
Happy to see Force motors is becoming modern day by day. They're lagging the competition but they're thinking how to come out of their commercial vehicle image 🎉
They’re getting better and better
They need to market it as Gurkha, not Force
Stop complaining guys. This is second vehicle for many enthusiasts. Love it❤
Maybe even third…. Like I said this is not for everyone and it has its own unique charm
This is for men of taste ⚡️⚡️
Karol bhag is a magical place for this car to make it close to a G-Wagon. Interior upgrades and a mercedes logo will make it hard to differenciate in looks
However, apart from looks, it would be hard to replicate G-Wagens' character.
Would they plonk a biturbo V8 in it though? 🤔
The height on this is taller than g wagon
@@sagnik8432if you could afford it then why not 👍
Commendable job done by force motors. especially in engine power. Lower arms has been improved. The only thing now they have to update is there service networks. Other than that every thing is improved. Kudos to force motors
They’re working on the service network also
Would you buy it for your next adventure ?
I think this is the most honest review of the new Gurkha I have seen. In many cases the Gurkha is hyped up and some just dismiss it saying its not cut out to be on sale in 2024. And here you are calling a spade, a spade. I completely agree with you, it is not for everyone and I think none of the previous Gurkhas were too. They always were targeted at a very very niche set of buyers, ones that could look past a lot of it's flaws. TBH I have been a big fan of the vehicle from the Trax days, even before the 4x4 was made available to the junta. So my views on it are very biased, I love it and provided I could splurge the asking price, I would buy it in a heartbeat regardless of all the niggles it WILL have. This is a very honest machine, it doesn't pretend to be anything or doesn't try to please anyone, and like you said a proper old school SUV. One of the things it gets over the older 3 door are proper power adjustable OVRMs. Force should offer the 5 door with a reclining/folding bench mounted further back and ditch the captain seats in the last rowr, at least as an option. While the boot space is low, I don't think its any worse than a 7 seater SUV. You can still stow soft bags behind the rear seats and may be a carry on between the seats. You will just have to remove them while getting in and out of the vehicle, something one does in the 3 door also. But yes, folding jump seats like on the Innova would have made life more easier. Does the 3 door also get rear AC blower? I think the least they could have done is color matched the unit to the headliner. They have used a lot of parts already in use like mirror controls, shift-on-fly knob, PW switches etc. but that is where the cost cutting comes in, the Gurkha just doesn't have the numbers to justify the additional investment, I don't think Force is even ready for high numbers as Mahindra. One thing I want to know in your full review, can the 2024 Gurkha crawl as well as the 2021 on steep inclines? (not the same as Force had arranged this time) I have driven the older one in some steep incline and I was surprised how good it was. I just hope it hasn't lost that while upping the power.
All said and done, a very detailed and well put together review. 👍
Finest old school charm love to have it my garage , been driving desiels for past 10 years , this looks perfect truely king of terrain
It’s a beast 💪🏻
#thethrillofdriving
Aaah a classic real Suv .. i love it … only company still selling these old school Suvs with 90s vibes.
Yeah!
captains chairs for the middle row, would have been awesome.
True
Yes. At least the knee room could have been better.
Yes, Captain seats should be offered as an option as well as an option to buy one as a 4 or 5 seater. If the Defender 130 can be bought as a 5 seater from the factory, then I guess, Force can do it too.
If the floor mountings for the seats are similar between the middle row and the third row, many people will start doing this mod.
Accessories like a cargo barrier would be great for outdoorsy people who travel long distances with large pets.
Think it would have a captain seats trim
Force Motors really did a good job and improved 70% than before in every aspect apart from Interior Dashboard and rear tail lamp. 91 to 140 bhp is impressive from the same 2.6l. It's a quite heavy vehicle (3.2 tons) 1000kg more than Fortuner (2.1 tons) so we can't feel that 140bhp power with this weight. Good Job Force 🎉
2.3 tons. Not 2.3. Kerb weight…
@@sirishch Kindly Google that what is the weight of Gurkha 5 door, it's 3,125kgs.
@@siteshautoworld5770 that is GVW which is kerb weight with all fluids + driver + full passenger + full allowable load.
Anyday Force Gurkha for me.....!!!
People want everything sorted....but that's not the thing it should be....!
These machines are beautiful when are unbalanced.......a little heavy and hard.... teaching the people in their own style...!
This would be a Beauty on roads in my old Ooty town ❤😊
It has character
It's a return to the old school way of doing things....
Long live the king 👑
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18:03 absolutely agree. It's not for everybody. This deserves a great owner who still loves to drive the vehicle rather than being driven by a vehicle😅
LC 80 series of India. I would give up on all features to get this lvl of a vehicle. And those looks just.....menace
LC 80 💪🏻
looks crazy!
OG journalist from Overdrive. I grew up reading his article. Fan of Sirish and you can see the enthusiasm in all of his reviews. I don't think anyone else mentioned about this crawl control, no pedal driving as well as hill descent control
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Thank you for the kind words
Side view of this car literally reminds the legendary G Wagon! Many will get his car for it's looks, specially the side ways.😄
Real driver loves a machine which obey him and give real road inputs
True!
And you have to be strict in your commands
@0:18 you opened 2 doors and with joy and loudness saying "comes with five doors".
Just kidding 😂
I am considering this but still thinking for the value of the money.
hahaha....
😂😂😂😂😂
This is the kind of vehicle that comes into my mind when I someone says SUV. I hope I am able to get one of this.
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RIP THAR...
Force Gurkha the Boss❤❤❤
I still find gurkha lagging in terms of interior, gearbox and brakes. Force motors should look into this. I was waiting for this to buy, but now seems to wait for 5 door thar. 😢
Interior you can upgrade with aftermarket parts which is even better for overlanding or off-roading adventures. Manual gearbox is always better than automatic. And brake are ok, drums are more durable. And you can buy brake pads which have pieces of ceramic for better performance, so overall is good, I am thinking to order this one, I would like to have more airbags
I have not driven the Gurkha, but recently I took my friend’s sparingly used Thar for a vacation in Pench from Hyderabad….The Thar’s air conditioning had issues and the infotainment console went blank..it it to a Thar dealer who wanted 4 days to rectify the issue hence had to get these issues sorted out from an external workshop…Mahindra service centre needs a lot of improvement
Weird… our Thar has never given us any trouble
Sad to know your experience. But we have not heard these complains before.
This is a review of something else. Go complain elsewhere.
Can you please confirm if the Gurkha really has three locking diffentials? I read somewhere that it has two locking diffentials - front and rear and the third, center, cannot be locked.
my future car for sure
Us
Test drive and decide
4wd switch dial was what i first drove on a Tata Sumo gold then the Bolero GLX which came with a knob,it just take away the trust which you get from the gear.
Yes no steering controls still now on bolero😅
Also people Automatic on 4x4 is no logic purely takes away the control of your car on off-road
The setup on the last row is a nice upgrade that no car in this price setup has done.
I beg to differ on your opinion on automatics off road. In fact it makes off-roading easier.
@@sirishch Thank you Bro,i mean what you say make sense, but i have faced this glitch on a muddy terrain skiddy up hill where the acceleration shifts to higher gear when what we exactly need is lower gear with a hard acceleration, Any suggestions will be helpful.
@@hekatojamirjr.9717what automatic SUV do you own ? In a Jimny Automatic one can manually slot into 1st gear (L) and engage 4wd H or L.
The best Gurkha review so far. Hats off to Sirish and Evo.
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Apartment from that it's superb kudos to the design interior
All the over-glamorized super SUVs of today, Range Rover, Defender, G Wagon, Land Cruiser, Wrangler... They started life as utilitarian and purpose-built workhorses (except for maybe RR, which was an upmarket offering even back in the day). Force motors is offering a very capable and rugged offroader at a reasonable price. Really hope they dont discontinue it too soon. Would love to add this to my garage soon 🤞.
Does it have ad blue/urea/dpf?
And is the articulation better than the previous generation?
Land Cruiser Hard Top Vehicle and pickup is the highest sold vehicle in the world. It's narrow and tall. Body roll was the issue when it was introduced 1st time in late 80's. But the purpose of this Vehicle is off roading. Used by UN, MILITARY Woldwide, so what matters for Gurkha is 4x4 driving skills discipline knowing well it's not the Vehicle for racing track. I greatly appreciate the ground clearance from factory with power factor boost.
Water wadding should be 700-800mm with advantage of snorkel.
This should be best affordable Vehicle with performance.
That's why I am here with evo India, Raw!
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Yoo, thank you!
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Gurkha is love ❤️ I waited for it to be launched so long but it didn't then I got a jimny 2 months back .had i known 8t Wil finally launch I would have waited for this 😢
Your next 4x4....
@@sirishch yess for sure if God willing 😍🙏
The perfect example of modern and old school technology a simple and minimalist SUB appreciatable
Sirish bro, if at all i watch Evo India it is just for u and only for you brother ❤️ the most natural nd ardent automotive enthusiast out there!
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I really feel that this looks great and as Sirish sir said its comfy inside, I think this will also be greater than the upcoming 5door thar. In terms of comfort thar throws you out of the cabin i know that its the behavior of a 4x4 ladder on frame. I saw the review of gurkha from autocar and then i saw it from evo india man! Sirish sir you are a legend everytime i see you explain i wonder your enthusiasm about cars love the way you review, watched gbnf endy episode too you are great and waiting to see you in many videos nd waiting for Mitsubishi pajero too...
Hope you enjoy the Pajero video coming soon….
Thanks for the appreciation!
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Great to see Force is updating their Gurkha 5 door ,while doing so they need to improve their service and spares network which I must say is below average.
They're putting the hard work into that also
Work already going on on that front....
Excellent upgrade, specially the 7 seat with more power. Now people could think off adding this car instead of other 7 seatr cars for family
more power is a big upgrade
damn right
This will be great buy for those who actually offroad. Good that they have upgraded the engine to 140bhp. Earlier 90bhp engine is too low 2.5ton vehicle. Streeting mounted controls and better quality steering is much needed. Force can give customization option like 2nd row captain seats, 5 seater option etc. Good job Force motors looking forward to see such impressive vehicles.
Upgrades which are still missing
1) All around Disk
2) Proper updated Suspension setup at the rear ( still using leaf spring, common it's not a pick up truck any more...)
3) Good amount of space in middle row, With Captain Seats at least as an option.
4) Add more goodies to make it a more updated and comfortable.
5) EBS,EBD & all other options.
6) beg, borrow or Steal but hire good team of interior designer's.
and don't worry if price go up above 30lac (janata hoon 140 hp ke liye ye bohot hai ) still people will Purchase it
saw many reviews, but evo india's is the best and v good presentation as always by Sirish
Thank you
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Lad was more happy presenting than of force officials doing the launch😂😂😂. A true hardcore suv 🚙 😊
Haha❤
I love these things
@@sirishch Sure you do Sirishch… Big fan man
A big relief for the hill Billy hill drivers.
Looks, accomodation and the colour and new suspension setup. All good.
Mahindra's catch 22 bushing and ball joint and bumpy ride. That will all be a back date story for me now. I'm buying the 5 door one with the new olive colour👍🏻
Enjoy it and let us know what it is like to live with
@@sirishch sure will....
Test drive and decide #thethrillofdriving
It's awesome recovery, super looks, Indian Mercedes G Wagon, ready to exchange my Tata Hexa XT and buy Force Gurkha.
Enjoy
Test drive and decide.
Sirish that Borg Warner dial was there in the Safari yes. And it was there in the Bolero of the late 90’s and the early Scorpios too. Shift on the fly Electric 4 WD switch….
Those days it was such a cool thing!
Oh great to see someone remember. But I feel that lever should've been left untouched as it added to the old world charm. Plus it had a neutral for the transfer box too which is now gone
Gone But Not Forgotten!
Good review, as you have done review of previous Gen Xtreme 2.2 litre 140 bhp version so compared to new one, which one is better in terms of performance & feel?
The new one. Definitely. Because the rest of the package is such a huge step up
the new one is better in every respect
Many things have been lifted from the market. That gear lever is lifted from Creta Manual Models. Centre AC vents from Safari. Not that we are complaining though because Last Gurkha’s interiors were downright commercial.
Don’t recognise the 4x4 knob?
That's the only way a small manufacturer like Force can deliver whatever it can
Very nice, this my type of 4x4 ,simple and durable
The side profile of the vehicle looks so cute and appealing. But the rear end and front grill still need some cosmetic changes. Rear end still make one remember trax. Overall, looks of the vehicle is dope👍
more work for the mods community
Trax design was also G-wagen inspired so...
I like tata sumo so much but it is discontinued now, and here it is thanks to force motors for launching this boxy tata sumo look gurkha I will buy it now❤❤
Enjoy!
Awesome 😎
Gurkha - The pride of India❤
As an owner of 3D Thar, I wish it had the side-facing seats instead of the current front-facing ones. I know most reviewers hate it and safety is also compromised. But the side-facing seats facilitate actual usable boot space to the travellers. Also it reminds the iconic old-gen police jeeps. 😂
The SUV with the real badass looks i have been waiting for.....
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It's mighty
That was some serious Desi off-road Autopilot there
deși auto pilot!
It wouldn't be a surprise if this sells in good numbers, because whatever practicality it was lacking in 3 door version, it's now all there. A very good point has been mentioned that the seats are just bolted on with 4-6 bolts & in some time after market accessories shops will come up with ways to readjust the seats in order to increase legroom or put in better seats altogether. Cruise control would really have gotten this in with the competition, but who knows maybe in the next update. In any case cruise control is only used on expressway & no sane person would take such a high GC vehicle with reportedly less brake bites on an expressway. This has become a lot more desirable & will sell in good numbers. Awesome review though..❤
Time will tell the real story . Thanks for the appreciation.
May be cruise control is needed till you reach the off-road place.
But it will spoil the old school charm
In the era of fantastic express highways with a speed limit of 120kmph.. Cruise control is a must...
Force should have thought about their competitors...
Point
This is not really for expressways
If only this had a good automatic transmission I would've bought it yesterday. I LOVE the Jimny but I'm just too tall for it (6'8") so this is perfect for me it looks even better IMHO but no auto! It's not a sports car that I wanna shift myself man an auto is a must.
Hopefully an auto will come soon
I bought Jimny last year after owning a gypsy (2018. Still with me 😊😊) .I prefer light weight 4x4 cuz its easier to handle them while off-roading , very light on pocket for maintenance, spares are easily available (Suzuki) and not requiring heavy duty gear for recovery. Even two people with shovel can recover gypsy/Jimny whenever they get stuck 😂😂.
the light weight has terrific benefits
@@sirishch earlier I used to have a thar and everytime it got stuck , JCB or a tractor was required to get it out of situation.
Going to be a hit 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Very wholesome videos man. This guy loves his cars.
Could you please make a video on Camry Hybrid? Or even better make a drag race video. There are few videos on TH-cam which went viral as no one expected a sleeper car like Camry to win drag races ridiculously easily.
Suggestion: race it against Octavia or Superb. BMW X1 or Audi Q3 may also be an interesting proposition.
Glad you liked it. Thanks for the suggestion.
Great idea!
Camry video coming soon!
They really listned😮🎉
They do listen
Yeah!
Excellent review. Honest enough, One thing caught my attention when you said it was crawling when you were going up the off road settings...... does this crawling (slowly) nature of the engine without foot on clutch or accelerator make life easy in bumper to bumper traffic and work like an automatic car does? is my assumption right? Pls let me know🙏
No. You shouldn't use 4X4 modes on tarmac (roads) as it would wind up your transfer case and cause huge problems. 4X4 modes are only for use on surfaces where traction is low
the crawling only happens in 4-low and you wont engage 4-low in bumper to bumper traffic
why did they decrease the length in 3 door version ?
Three differential locks? Is there a central diff lock as well??
When you engage the 4-Low centre diff locks
Now this is the real suv. Will go for it.
Test drive and decide #thethrillofdriving
a proper SUV!
Unfortunately that 4x4 lever has changed to a rotary dial. Don't get me wrong, The Force Gurkha's still proper offroader with those differential lockers. Although manual tranny is being retained, at least she can do engine braking during down hill. At last but not least, The rear drum brakes ain't bad at all anyway. Yes, she's old but she'll hold. Kudos to The Force Motor and much appreciate for Sirish Chandran & Evo India. Regards.
Thank you!
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Was searching for a proper SUV in a budget range...man u have convinced me!!! Going for this beauty❤️❤️
Let us know your views after living with it
15:00 Gurkha gets 2 locking differentials front and back right?
2- front and rear differential lock..
Just confirming because Sirish said 3 locking differential 3 times in the video
@@motorvoyage_ i saw the video afterwards..he said 3 but differential lock are two only..maybe he mistakenly said that..
I think he meant the 3rd to be in the Transfer Case
Third is the centre diff which locks when you engage 4-low
I’m extremely happy to see that they have improved things by listening to critics .
Like engine “power upgrade” with an option to economise when you want . Lovely idea.
”suspension arms” redesigned for ground clearance.
digital front console and an info system with google maps BTW(Toyota still needs this upgrade)
The issues still linger on non adjustable middle row seat back angle.
Why can’t they just swap the middle row and the back row exactly like the Innova crysta ? It’s an extremely convenient setting.
If I buy this 5door I’ll surly get it done as an after market thing… captain seats in the middle and 50:50 flat bed seat as the last-row with detachable and foldable option . Exactly like Citron C3Aircross . ❤❤ I’m extremely happy to see them work on the product and upgrade it with mindful inputs. All that is left now are the showrooms and silly sluggish sales agents who are least interested in selling . Lena hai lo varna Aage badho…. Sawal mat poocho.
Glad you liked it . They are improving on their sales and after sales service. #thethrillofdriving
May be they didn’t want to move the 3 seater to last due to weight distribution.
I guess they designed this with some considerations
@@harshaworld4257 ideally this should be the case but not here. I’m talking about seats not the engine sir. 20kg here and a 30kg there doesn’t really make a huge difference on a so called robust tank like vehicle. Mimic the Innova crysta captain seat version .
@@MohdFahadfaruquikhairabad accepted
The dealer network is being improved upon with new areas for the Urbania and Gurkha to cater to a different audience from their regular vans
What about the rear view mirrors? Are they electric?
Yes they are. Missed out on pointing that out
wing mirrors are electric, yes
I see Autocar India review and this review, what an energy by Mr.Sirish, good information with action
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Thank you!
2026 version will come with automatic gearbox,cruise control, ottoman second row captain seats,ventilated front seats and Adas safety system
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Automatic is not great for off-roading it just feels lifeless while driving, manual is lovee ❤❤❤
Don't agree....off-roading is easier with an automatic
Beg to differ. Ive driven automatics off-road and it is as capable while being easier to drive
how 3 locking diffs? i only see front and back
Centre locks in 4-low
@@sirishch ohh thats cool
Loved it
Old-school ladder-frame 4x4 or FWD monocoque SUV? What will you pick?
Body On Ladder frame suv
🎉Definitely Old school ladder frame 4x4, manual.
You can't go off-road on a FWD-monocoque and you can't hit fast Conners on a 4×4 ladder-frame. It all depends on the use case.
(I'd still pick the 4×4 ladder-frame)
@@user-we3ss9bo3y Good❤
@@dilshankoenig8798 Nic
Are those window glasses UV tinted from the factory?
Good question. I’ll ask
This looks like a military vehicle ...like a beast
Surely it is!
Light Strike Vehicle is based on this
Awesome review Sirish. Great fan of your content.
Thank you
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Have a drink everytime Sirish says G-Wagen
You’ll have to walk back home…. If you can 😂
@@sirishch 'on all 4s' better than 4x4x4 😄
Good explain and good design and additional modify❤ ❤
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They did an amazing job!
Would they be bringing these upgrades to the 3-door Gurkha? 🤔
Yes. It’s there in 3 door too
3-door also gets all these updates
Force have given a solid 7 seater beast look have to wait how thar 5 door is coming up
Yes. Expected launch date is 15th August
can't wait for it
Well done Force Motors at this price point and changes made 2 Gurkha are welcome. Rest we can do modifications 2 it and make it more capable offroading vehicle ❤
Let us know what mods you will make
@@sirishch hi ! SIRISH most important mod is tyre would go for BFG . Other mods will be extra lights front and rear. And last a winch
Yes!
Damn!
Only on your channel 🔥
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Gurkha is for hardcore offroad and the vehicle will not betray you there. I am having the 3D one and would love to explore and change to the new 5D one.
I’ve heard stories of its solid dependability
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ORVM and 4wd Borg Warner electronic selection inspired from Old TATA Safari. Bonett styling resembles TATA Sumo.
But all together ❤️ looks good and perfect blend of Technology with diff lockers make it still a head in its segment Always 😀 😉
I immediately recognized that knob
In this green shade it looks like and G300d from side view
So similar!
Yeah!
Who loves old tata safari driving , this new gurkha is for you , who owned tata safari ever only can understand , even fortuner endeavour cant beat tata safari in driving pleasure
Tata you must re launch the Storme 4*4 with updated interiors and the hexa automatic gearbox.
Civilian version of the army Safari?
Ppl who have seen pre 2021 froce Gurkha say the interior is improved a lot...😂
100%
Yeah!
Is there any issues regarding the funding of Force motors?? They are lagging behind every manufacturers in India..Hope, they will clear those drawbacks like TATA & Mahindra soon!!.. They don't have much time for that unlike the other Indian manufacturers coz, the whole industry is in a period of transition..😕
It’s not funding. Their core business is vans and that’s where all the attention and budgets go
Let the Mahindra launch their 5 door Thar at the End of Kaliyuga. Let it be. Now we have more improved more powerful G wagon Gurkha.
5-door Thar is expected to be revealed on 15th August.
YES, It's a G-BANGAN....!!! It looks like a enlarge TATA SUMO and it will also be a replacement for it in the hilly areas.
The Sumo was much, much bigger if you remember
This feels like the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series that's sold in AUS and SA. Similar concept...similar features...similar off road tech, ironically same back seat space too I think lol.
the more things change....
Finally the the Force GAMA is back 😊
Probably the only and Last SUV with character and Charm of an True SUV. Loved the Gurkha. And the engine sound especially the Turbo spool !!Pheww.. But Force should look into the interiors and make it more desirable. Hope to get one soon..
Updated interiors... job for the next refresh