Electrocoagulation 101

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  • Basic principles of Electrocoagulation

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  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your interest. I know that Fluoride will require the Aluminium Electrode for sure. I don't think the steel electrode will work in the reduction of fluorides in the water. You can carefully control the current to have more control on how much aluminium is released during electrolysis. I also use a non-sacrificial anode which works very good in many application but I am not sure if this is going to work on reducing fluorides out of the water. Perhaps a combination of Aluminium and Non-sacrificial can do the trick!

  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope you find this insightful

  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is great!. Aluminium is specially to take the excess fluoride. Aluminium and fluoride have good chemistry together. You are right you have to be careful not to put too much aluminium in the water. I think that the key is to use lower amperage in the aluminium. At the moment I am doing experiments in that regard to find the optimum power setting for drinking water. I think that it is worthwhile continue to work with Al Electrodes.

  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it does but you have to use aluminium electrodes and you have to control the power settings more carefully. pH becomes important and how to gather the floc so the use of the correct polymer is critical.

  • @MegaPopsT
    @MegaPopsT 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Could you explain why it could be an aluminium electrode?
    2. Could you guide how to choose a correct polymer? If you can give me an example that would be great :)

  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I am glad that you find the topic interesting. I don't know much about your project but electrocoagulation for sure will remove the turbidity. You simply need to use the correct power setting and that will depend on your set up. The rising and falling of the floc is not relevant. The rising and falling depends on how much bass (hydrogen) is produced during the process. You need to degas the sample to make it fall. Try simply moving the water vigorusly to degas.

  • @jameshayden1370
    @jameshayden1370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just an FYI, current flows from the cathode to the anode, the anode does not "give off electrons" like you state here.

  • @duleepgoonewardene
    @duleepgoonewardene 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Srilanka. We have used electrocoagulation process to reduce excess Fluoride and Hardness for better quality drinking water, and have been very successful. Aluminium plates were used, which brings up the slight risk of excess Aluminium in the retentate. What is your opinion in using Stainless steel or any other type of steel which does not cause problems and does not leave residue which may be bad in drinking water.

  • @PK-lc4fx
    @PK-lc4fx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching it on 2022. Really a good presentation. Thank you sir

  • @KYEMYUNG
    @KYEMYUNG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Sir, too much thanks to your kindest active explain, I keep to one of question that,
    un-treat waster water keep to color mixed yellowish, pinky. Because this wastewater sauce from piggy faces and urine, we treat 1st step to separate solid and liquid by decanter add a little quantity cohesive chemical. but a little include solid and color, let me know to this electrocoagulation processing possible to discolor ? I think of cause , possible. than I wish please your advice to the test kit by my self product. thank you.

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I think you have high levels of Urea. Electrocoagulation can take all the color if you combine Iron and Aluminium electrodes. Using EC you could clean the water in one single step. EC will cause all the solids to float at the same time treat the water. The right combination of power with iron and aluminium will leave the water clear. You may need to add a little bit of brine solution but not sure depends on how much conductivity the EC cell can handle.

    • @KYEMYUNG
      @KYEMYUNG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Herrera. Toooo much thank you to your kindest advice, its are very important advised guide for me. meaning that your assist are I will research and study to able to drive correct way road, OK, I will discuss concerning to reasonable EC electrodes and how much capacity convertor from AC to DC etc. also I will prepare salinity liquid for increase conductivity. future, I will connection again to you and the results and following questions etc. thank you.

    • @KYEMYUNG
      @KYEMYUNG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcthechemist Dear Sir, so your advice is very important advice for me then I product lab and base pilot capacity EC. I will trial test but lab scale, but I keep to one questions that brine solution, it may be sea water, injectable solution for human, and more conclude content salt solution possible, I will arrange 0.1%~25% of salt contents solution possible. for the more, do you advbice me possible to how to different salt or salty solution VS your brine solution. because we do not study to brine? then I do not catch to what's the urine? sorry. please help me.. thank you.

    • @Shershivrajhai
      @Shershivrajhai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcthechemist Your website appears to be broken. Is their any other way, we could reach you?

  • @mksusa
    @mksusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the transformer a custom device? Do you have taps on the transformer to adjust for the eroding anode?

  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for your comment and interest! I am sorry for my tardy response I had emergency surgery performed on me a couple of weeks ago. I am recovering and I will get back to you. Please visit my website at cleanevironmental.ca and there you will find my contact information. Thank you and we will be in touch.

    • @KYEMYUNG
      @KYEMYUNG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Herrera, thank you to your reply. Oh, Yes. I will wait until after come back to you was safely surgery. thank you. I believe your healthy complete recover. thank you.

  • @cesariovela6539
    @cesariovela6539 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like information on this technology as it compares with vacuum pressure system, capital costs, o & m costs. Engineers are currently recommending vacuum pressure systems with a high capital costs for sewer systems. Also what information can you provide for public drinking water systems because RO systems are the engineers choice and it is very high in capital costs and the O & M is very expensive and the expertise to operate such systems is almost non-existent in this low income communities.Sincerely,Cesario F. Vela

  • @eyzcabuenos1169
    @eyzcabuenos1169 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Mr. Herrera! We're finding it difficult to treat the wastewater of slaughter houses and piggery. Could you please help us here?
    For the slaughter house, we wont' able to make it clear. Our result is yellowish.
    While in the piggery, we can't pursue because our wire is melting. Maybe because of high conductivity.
    I hope you can help us here. Thanks you so much.

  • @albertnjenga5439
    @albertnjenga5439 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Interesting, I have been wanting to know more about this technology for home wastewater treatment because the other option everyone is promoting is composting toilets :-(...not too many of us are interested in giving up our way of life

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Albert Njenga Thank you very much for your interest. Please let me know what else you would like to know.
      Thank you

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you provide me with your email address and I will send you tie information information I responded to someone but I don't Know if is you. Thank you!

    • @albertnjenga5439
      @albertnjenga5439 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      albertnjenga at gmail

  • @saritasi7819
    @saritasi7819 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello, first I want to thank you for the video, and second I am working on the improvement of the large scale harvesting processes of micro-algae cultured in sea water, do you think the chloride in the sea water will not affect the metal in the electrodes, and do you think in my case the electrocoagulation is the best dewatering- harvesting method that I should propose for a large scale production? thank you very much in advance.

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Fatina, thank you for your question. Sea water is definitely corrosive but don't let this stop you from your project there are ways to get around it. As far as dewatering or harvesting I need more information to give you a better opinion on this matter but I will answer generally speaking. Electrocoagulation does not dewater but initiates the basis for dewatering without the use of chemicals which I think will be beneficial to your application. I would say if Fe or Al do not affect your micro-algae then either of those electrodes could be use. You need to dewater using other methods such as DAF (dissolved air floatation), centrifuge or simply by gravity depending on the size of your project. Also I need to tell you that in case Fe or Al affect the algae I have also available a non-sacrifical electrode this is a special electrode that will not put anything in the water but it will simply generate oxygen and hydrogen and initiate coagulation so that you can further dewater your product. I hope this helps or send me more information about your harvesting process.

    • @saritasi7819
      @saritasi7819 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Carlos Herrera thank you so much for your answer that was very helpful

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      fatina 미나 your are welcome. I have used Electrocoagulation to harvest or gather material from a mussel farm where they are interested in collecting the sludge material which contains a lot of nutrients for the soil. I imagine it will be a similar application for you. They cannot coagulate using chemicals so they need to collect it using another method and Electrocoagulation seems to be the answer. If you are interested send me a email and I will. Se do you more information. Also other information about other processes to harvest algae and phosphorus if you are interested.

  • @biofraguasambiental3834
    @biofraguasambiental3834 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning, they have experience in the removal of sulphates from residual water in the mining industry.

  • @shrikanthayyahiremath2400
    @shrikanthayyahiremath2400 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello sir thank you for the video .my question is that i am presently working on the project of "treatment of distillery spentwash using electrocoagulation" which is having chemical oxygen demand (COD) 120000-180000. so what should be the spacing of the electrodes should be used in the treatment.

  • @MrVarunsingh1985
    @MrVarunsingh1985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Juan, excellent valuable presentation. I am Varun Singh from India. Do you think or is this technology is suitable for Hospital waste water treatment coming from OT, Labs etc where chemical content is maximum. Also hospital drain the blood water from utensils and Operation theater cleaning so this technology will work here?

    • @andreas1503
      @andreas1503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great video ! pls advise, can thid EC treat chlorine?

    • @andreas1503
      @andreas1503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pls advise
      My whatapps number 62 811900608
      Regards
      Andreas

  • @mildreethh8117
    @mildreethh8117 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I am a student working on grey water treatment system for residential purposes. I am interested in incorporating the idea of electrocoagulation within the system. I know that its typically used on a larger scale but do you think it could be possible for maybe a home?

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mily, yes eléctrocoagulacion can be used at any scale it is a wonderful proces you simply need to know that there are two kinds of power you can use to apply it. One is DC power or AC power, it will work with both but there are things you need to consider. AC power will be or could be a little bit more dangerous to use than DC power but DC power is more expensive. Good luck

    • @8shayon
      @8shayon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Carlos Herrera Thank you for your swift reply, I am working with Mily on our senior project. We would like to know some additional references as well that describe electrocoagulation and its development in today's tech based environment.

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I would be glad to help you and point you in the right direction. Let me know what else you would like to know.
      Thank you for your interest

  • @MegaPopsT
    @MegaPopsT 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does electrocoagulation clean enough for drinking water?

  • @MegaPopsT
    @MegaPopsT 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you solve the problem yet? If you can, Could you tell me a solution please.

  • @pravinmane1701
    @pravinmane1701 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    We are now in Waste water treatment plant for textile industry, looking for Electro coagulation for our upcoming projects capacity ranges from 500m3/day to 4000 m3/day.
    Could you pls send us more details and confirm how to implement?

  • @rahmadewi8140
    @rahmadewi8140 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greeting from Batam Island.. hi Carlos.. thank you for this video..i have project for removing some heavy metal from industrial wastewater treatment, the water is containing with Cu, Zn, NI, CR Cn, Ag, Pb, which electrode will be efective for this problem if i use electrocoagulant as system ? Al or Fe? thank you before.. GBU

    • @andreas1503
      @andreas1503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi rahma dewi, i am from surabaya, we handling for wwtp with EC
      this my contact 62 811900608

  • @MegaPopsT
    @MegaPopsT 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god have you done that experiment yet. I'm finding an electrocoagulation process for drinking water!!. This is my senior project for graduate my university .Please answer me Juan my name is pop I'm from thailand. thank you very much sir :)

  • @saadjaved7023
    @saadjaved7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mr Herrera, Good day, i need your help in electrocoagulation, I have made one unit in which i used iron plates with surface area of 10000 cm2 (both sides included). I used 18 pates of same area. Total volume of tank is 210 liters. what should be the required voltage for this? Please guide.

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Saad, Voltage is not the key. Amperage is the key. But what you describe does not make too much sense to me. Seems like a very big plate 10,000 cm2 for one plate is like 1550 square inches. This would require very high amperage. Are you sure you have calculated the surface area correctly. Very small tank to hold 18 plates? Something is not right. Let me know. Thank you.

    • @saadjaved7023
      @saadjaved7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcthechemist hello Mr Herrera, thank you for your reply.
      The plate dimensions are 0.50 m x 0.95 m.
      Total plates used 18 pcs. (9 anods, 9 cathod)
      The volume of tank is 210 Litres.
      My target flow rate of wastewater is 67Litres/min. Means retention time would be around 3 mins in the tank.
      Can you please guide on this. Thanks.

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saadjaved7023 It seems to me you have very big plates for such small flow rate. In order to have meaningful EC process one plate will require around 450 amps for just one plate. It makes no sense to me.Why not use less plates and smaller size so that you can do the process better with a manageable size power supply. In my opinion you don't need such size. To answer your original question voltage is not the important factor but as long as you have more than 2 volts you will have EC process. Volts depends on conductivity of the water and space between your anode and cathode. The key is to control the amps for a steady process.

    • @saadjaved7023
      @saadjaved7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcthechemist hello Mr Herrera,
      Thank you for detailed reply. Can you suggest me area of each plate for this volume? Also number of plates. I want continuous flow of wastewater (67L/min). I used 2 cm spacing between plates. Do you suggest the same? Thanks

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saadjaved7023 How many amps can your power supply give you in the process. How big is your power supply?

  • @TheDrJeringon
    @TheDrJeringon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi, I study mechatronics engineering and will make the study of electrocoagulation for the treatment of wastewater from coal to develop a mathematical model describing the process, I drew attention to the regulation of plant electrodes, since I worked a pilot with iron electrodes (A36) and aluminum (cast) floor, I know that I recommended for the project you want to make.
    Thank you very much, I appreciate any help you can give me.

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Yeison, please let me know more details as I am not sure how I can help you!
      Thank you!

    • @TheDrJeringon
      @TheDrJeringon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, What electrode material should I use to think that treat wastewater from washing coal? and whether in the form of plates is the most appropriate, since I drew attention the spiral shape of the electrode used.
      Thank you.

    • @TheDrJeringon
      @TheDrJeringon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Carlos Herrera What difference would it make to use the A36 to A53?

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It makes a big difference actallly and all depends on the iron content. I recommend A53 over A36

    • @TheDrJeringon
      @TheDrJeringon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok, thanks

  • @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894
    @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eletrólise.
    Ótima solução para tratamento de água.
    Repliquei esse experimento tentando tratar uma água de um lago ornamental mas... a amônia deu um disparada. Você mediu os parâmetros antes e depois da aplicação da eletrólise? Sei que esse processo é um excelente floculador, algicida e desinfectante mas, os parâmetros da água não ficam numa faixa ótima de potabilidade
    Electrolysis.
    Optimal solution for water treatment.
    I said this experiment trying to treat a water an ornamental lake but ... ammonia gave a shot. You measured parameters before and after application of electrolysis? I know that this process is an excellent flocculator, algaecide and disinfectant but the water parameters are not in a great range of potability
    La electrólisis.
    Solución óptima para el tratamiento del agua.
    Dije este experimento de intentar tratar un agua de un lago ornamental pero ... amoniaco dio un tiro. Usted ha medido parámetros antes y después de la aplicación de la electrólisis? Sé que este proceso es un floculador excelente, alguicida y desinfectante, pero los parámetros del agua no están en una gran gama de potabilidad

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Claudio, yes I recommend using aluminium electrodes and perhaps salt to increase the conductivity of the water to no more than 10 mS. The salt will help to produce chlorine which will help disinfecting the water. Aluminium anodes are better used drinking water applications but you need to be careful no to produce too much aluminium. Selection of the coagulant is also important for drinking water. I hope this helps

    • @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894
      @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Carlos Herrera
      Thank you for your attention. Any help when The idea is to develop a system for filtering ornamental ponds, fish tanks (fish farming). Do not want to produce chlorine, as would kill the fish. Would you have any suggestion electrodes?

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Claudio de Castro Good morning Claudio, you are welcome. What are you trying to remove. As far as I know chlorine is only produced when you deliberately add salt to the water and also depends on the current you use to do the work. In my technology I have different kinds of electrodes. There is a non-sacrificial anode that can be use in many applications but I don't know what you are trying to remove from the ponds. If you give me more information I may be able to guide you in the right direction.

    • @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894
      @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Carlos Herrera
      Good night, my friend. I am in the city of São Luís, State of Maranhão, Brazil. You "speaks" from where? I would like to talk to you by email. Do you agree? I want to send some plants the type of job I'm looking for electrolysis. Your help is greatly appreciated, expected and welcome. claudiousdecastro@hotmail.com

    • @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894
      @aquaxtecnologiaegestaoemaq894 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Carlos Herrera
      Both in its reply to me, as to Fatima, you quote have a non-sacrificial electrode. You market this lead?

  • @jcthechemist
    @jcthechemist  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry what experiment?

  • @vaddlamudivenkaiahnaidu684
    @vaddlamudivenkaiahnaidu684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi juan carlos
    will this technic apply for leather industry waste water where lime ,sodium chloride,ammonia,hcl,and chromium in high qtys ,need u r contact details we can talk

    • @jcthechemist
      @jcthechemist  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Vaddlamudi, yes the technique can apply to leather tanning industry. All depending on concentrations and conductivity of the water. If you have any questions email to juan@cleanenvironmental.ca