Tony Iommi and the Zeppelin boys were the best of friends from a long time ago. In every interview with the media, Iommi always insists that without Zeppelin, there would not be rock music today. He heaps praise on Page and Bonham as the best in the business. He adds that as individuals, all four of the Zeppelin boys are individual geniuses. He added that Zeppelin has influenced the music of Sabbath. You can watch his comments during Zeppelin's induction into the British Music Industry Hall of Fame. Many famous musicians also sang their praises about Zeppelin.
He did and rightfully so. But without Iommi, there would be no extreme forms of metal. He was the first to make power chords and feedback A Personal Obsession. Sabbath were The undisputed fathers of what later was heavy metal. Iommi Should be in the hall of fame himself only for creating a new genre. He created a freakin genre. No matter what others say about it or think about heavy metal it’s no small feat to create a genre on your own.
I was around back then. I didn't know much about the behind-the-scenes stuff. But I did know that I wanted every album by Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Nazareth, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Slade & David Bowie, that I could get my hands on. All of the above were pioneers, & very influential towards what came next.
Yup. You are correct. I was around too. We're old. Young people can't understand. But the reason we couldn't know about all the "behind the scene" stuff is because we didn't have social media. But we did have magazines. But they weren't too informative. But I really do miss those vinyl albums and rock magazines. Good times for sure! Peace.
Even though I'm from a generation later, born in 80, I never had much use for the music of my day when I was younger. I preferred 60s and 70s rock and Zeppelin and Sabbath were and still are my all time favorites. Even when I grew up and that music had already been around for awhile there was no way to find out information about the recording process of albums, the personal lives and friends of various band members etc. or anything like you can today with the internet. In a way it made things more interesting, kind of like the mystery of it. If you did hear something about them it was probably bullshit lol. Now you can hear all kinds of stuff from the musicians themselves. Many times when I hear the stories about why or how they did something it would be totally different from what I would have thought. Like wondering for years about an album cover and then finding out they did it as a joke or something 😅
@@michaelknight4041 i was a teen in 1970s & bc i didn't know anything about them, some of them seemed like actual Music Gods to me, especially Led Zeppelin & Jimmy Hendrix! Many of the musicians seemed magical or almost superhuman to me, but not quite like Real Gods; i was 100% certain that Hendrix was a God, listening to him on LSD convinced me! 😂 & i continued to believe it permanently. 😂
Reid did not "decline" to join Led Zeppelin. He had signed up for opening the Stones tour for two weeks. He offered to audition for Page once he got back, but Jimmy said it was now or never. Reid later did a gig and ran sound for Band of Joy and suggested Plant to Page.
I love both of these bands and their music. Both have just incredible first albums and the rest of their music has stood the test of time in both cases. Sabbath was a bit darker than Zeppelin was but both bands could send shivers down your spine with their music.
The Three Men in a Boat was also the hang out for Slade, who were long term friends of both bands. Led Zeppelin's manager, Peter Grant, learned his trade working for Don Arden, who was Sabbath's manager.
@@nightwi1dernessbrianjohnso803 It depends on which era you enjoy. The first three albums that I recommend is: 1) Slade -*Keep your hands off my Power supply* Contains my two fav Slade songs; *Run Runaway* and *My Oh My.* This is for those who love the 80s. 2) Slade *-Slayed?* For those who love the 70s. Kiss ripped off alot of material from Slade in this era. 3) Slade - *Greatest hits.* Wet your whistle with these fun party bangers. And check out these notable songs that are crowd pleasers: -Cum on feel the noize -You'll never walk alone -Auld Lang Syne (The best version I've ever heard of this song)
As a teen in 90's i was hooked mainly on Sabbath but i liked Zeppelin too. My favorite two bands. Now its mostly Sabbath, Dio, Ozzy and Rabdy Rhodes. 🎸
Enjoyed that. The Three Men In A Boat was actually on the Beechdale Estate in Walsall - Bloxwich is a mile or so further north. It is a traditional no-frills Black Country working class area - as well as being frequented by Bonham and Plant, Rob Halford also used to live on the Beechdale.
By the way, James Hetfield is a huge fan of Black Sabbath. We can hear the influence on some Metallica albums, especially 'Black Album': the song 'Unforgiven' and some other songs.
Sounded like John Paul Jones, Robert Plant & John Bonham jamming & spark really helped to break through Tony’s writers block, all for Tony to just ultimately call Zeppelin’s studio visits & help a distraction?…A long lost Sabbath+Zeppelin secret jam session recording from 1973, would be amazing to listen to!…🔊
Bill Ward spoke very highly of John Bonham. Bill referred to John as a true musician and referred to himself as more of a reactionary drummer. I think Bill felt John was better than him but it never stopped Ward from cementing his own place in Heavy Metal History. 🖤
For the most part all I hear is that a lot of the classic musicians really liked Tony. Bonzo and Brian May for example were good friends with him and would jam with him all the time. Him and Sir Dr Brian May are still like literal best friends to this day!
John Lennon was a waste of oxygen. The best thing he ever did was kill the Beatles and let George and Paul go on their own to record actual quality music.
Talking Maserati. Shows a Cobra and a Jensen Interceptor. Obviously Bonzo's. Fords best 427. One of Mopar's best 440 magnum. In British cars. No wonder he didn't give a s... about his Maserati. If he'd had a Pantera before Elvis, he would have driven Zeps limo with Peter Grant and his Thompson to wherever it broke down ( which it was going to do);and, show Elvis how it's done.
I loved side 2 of Sabbaths debut, all the spastic leads , on Warning etc. I never heard anything by Page that could top it ! I like Zeppelin ,not putting them down. I'd go through phases. Zeppelin were more accessible to mainstream masses ! Happy Hippies ! Sabbath were the Sad Boys ,alot less mainstream,so what did you expect?
I’ve always fantasized about Black Sabbath with Bonham on the kit and how amazingly fucking awesome that would sound. I never knew that they knew each other and jammed together. WOW, what could have been!
Would like to hear about the time Black Sabbath had a run in with AC/DC. I remember reading that Geezer Butler pulled a knife out, but there wasn’t much detail about what caused the argument.
A wise decision by Sabbath, not signing with the Swansong. The Sabbath were their friends yet their rivals on the same pedestal musically. Personally, Zep were my original favorites but for the past few decades, Purple and Black are my favorite colors.
Yes, Peter Grant worked for promoter Don Arden in the early Sixties. In 1963, Grant was hired by Don Arden. Arden managed the careers of rock acts such as Small Faces, Black Sabbath, ELO etc.
Many thanks, much appreciated! It's a story about Led Zeppelin's connection with Black Sabbath. And I had to choose a focal point to write the title and I decided to pick up this one because it's the most intriguing part of the story. I mean Led Zeppelin came to hang out with Sabbath to sign them to their label 'Swang Song' but Ozzy told them to 'Get Lost' and Tony said that they ruined their session.
That would have been freaking awesome if Sabbath signed to Swan Song. Can you imagine how much better everything after the SBS album would have been without the soul destroying ripping off from Patrick Meehan and company?
I always wondered if Page stole KASHMIRS riff from Eastern music. Like Blackmore always admitted he stole this and that from there and so, Page wasnt so fast to admit things like that.
I'm surprised they release Good times bad times has a single because you know how Zeppelin was they didn't really like releasing singles you had to get the whole entire album if you really wanted to get the true sound of it which I agree with it a lot to be honest
Hell. Deep Purple are better than Zeppelin too. The so called unholy trinity of early Hard rock. And Zeppelin are 3rd Place. They ripped off the first 4 albums And the albums afterwards were spiraling downhill in quality. Especially Presense and In Through the Outdoor. Maybe 2-3 good tracks only both. Sabbath had 3 duff tracks Total In the seventies. FX Breakout and She’s Gone. The Dio years were flawless. Born Again has one shitty track. That’s 4 tracks from 1970-1983. The discography in that time frame is solid gold. Sabbath hands down are better.
So Tony Iommi basically had a hand in creating Zeppelin if he talked Plant and Bonham Into giving it a go. Sounds like Robert and John were unsure about joining Jimmy.
No disrespect but here is how u get vibrato like Michael schenker. U first listen but not to the amp. U listen to nowhere but ur still listening. This makes the vibrato way louder. Practice and record to test if ur doing it right. The separate part is u make it with ur soul. Soul vibrato. U don't control where it's going but u just do it and it does what u want it to. Like how magneto moves metal. Extra unnecessary is to keep string in back area during vibrtao. Do not use toothpaste with fluoride it lowers IQ
What makes you think so? I believe it's Bonham. It's the same face in the next photo. Here is a funny story: in 1973 the members of Led Zeppelin gave drummer John Bonham a Harley Davidson for his 25th birthday, which he promptly rode up and down the hallways of his hotel, causing thousands of dollars in damage. The next day, he wrote a check for the damages and said "Oh, and keep the bike."
Ozzy: Hey Robert, why don't you button up your shirt in concert? Robert: Hey Ozzy, why don't you go snort up some ants? Tony: Hey Jimmy, why don't play something besides a acoustic you folk geek? Jimmy: Hey Tony, why don't you shave off your moustache super mario? Geezer: Hey John Paul, why don't you have a cool stage name instead of a historicial name? John Paul: Hey Geezer, is that your name your actual age of 80? Bill: Hey John, why don't add some more swing to the beat? John: Hey Bill, why don't you go swing off a tree?
I remember reading a plant interview back in the 80s and he’s telling the story about the first time he saw Sabbath. Page asked how are they and he replied they’re shit. Typical Plant he must of been joking or jealous of Bonham and Iomiis friendship 😝
It’s actually funny that you think that the Cars are serious music. Ask any 21 year old who The Cars are. None of them ever heard of them. I can guarantee you that all of them know who Black Sabbath is and know who Tony Iommi is. Young or Older, everyone knows Sabbath. What is actually Very Funny is that you think Black Sabbath is over rated. 55 years ( 1969 ) says that a lot of people like and listen to Black Sabbath. The Cars lasted a couple of years and unless you listen to bubble gum music, no one knows them. Without the Scorpions, no one on this earth would know who the hell Michael Schenker is, or was. Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin are Giants. I still say that you are talking about nobody’s.
I have interest in both of these bands for their music. But the Boomer arguments and gossip over them are annoying and make me like them less. It’s 50 years ago. Get over it. Obviously, Zeppelin was more successful. They had a much greater variety of styles, and they were better musicians. They also clearly played a role in inspiring metal, before Sabbath existed, if that matters to somebody. The same goes for Jimi Hendrix and Cream, and others. What you like better is up to you. The time when listening to a particular band or style of music and hating fans of others was a thing is over. Nobody cares, everybody listens to everything now. It’s not sports. Your personal identity is not defined by who your favorite bands is. Going around 50 years later yelling “my band is better than yours!” and being actually mad about it just makes you look weird.
Comparing Sabbath with Zeppelin is laughable. Singer no comparison Ozzy had relevant lyrics.on bass gezzer is obvious and I'd take Bill ward any day.and page is more diversed in sounds. Hey one out four ain't bad.
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Black Sabbath is underrated. They only started getting recognition after the 90's bands started to say Sabbath was an influence on them, bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc.
@@topgunvideos774Honestly i thought Sabbath fanboys respected Zep unlike the salty Deep Purple and Humble Pie fanboys. Obviously i was wrong. Black Sabbath was great, Led Zeppelin was greater. Deal with it. Now go listen to Born Again and Never Say Die and all of the other abysmal tnrowaway garbage records they made.
The 2 of you need to hook up more often. To each his own. But be prepared for a record number of dislikes. Hit dislike everyone!!!! Let's help them set a record!!!!!
Only singles? His double strokes were MONSTROUS. Are you even a drummer? This is the most ignorant thing ive ever heard. You have no idea what youre talking about. Ward is great but he wasnt and will never be on the same level as Bonzo. Deal with it and stop coping. Im a drummer, youre iviously not. His technique was impeccable. Watch his Royal Albert Hall moby dick and then tell me only used singles. If you dont know what youre talking about then dont say anything. You literally have NO IDEA what youre talking about. Youre just salty because Bonzo os 100x more influential than Ward. Absolutely delusional. John Bonham>>>>>>>Bill Ward. Deal with it. Ugh
His double strokes were impeccable. Do you even play drums? Watch RAH 1970 and tell me he only uses singles. You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Im a drummer, youre obviously not. Youre just salty.
zeps are very overrated as a band... Was it all that difficult for them to find a replacement? For instance, they lost a drummer and they disbanded... Sabbath sacked a singer and the next one gave them new life altogether... This serves for me, as a clue of which band had pure talent and were true musicians... And also zeps sounded awful at live performances... And page? Why should he always be regarded as the top guitarist after Hendrix? I mean Iommi lost the tips of his fingers but he was technically great and perfect as a composer... I mean Blackmore and Iommi are much much better than page as a composer...
zeppelin recorded some of the greatest studio albums ever made..but, sorry, "LIVE", they were just awful...they went way to over board on the blues stuff. Some of their best songs were unrecognizable "live"..Dazed and Confused especially. I saw them in 1977 at the Pontiac Silverdome...and we left half way thru. They were just awful..
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Tony Iommi and the Zeppelin boys were the best of friends from a long time ago. In every interview with the media, Iommi always insists that without Zeppelin, there would not be rock music today. He heaps praise on Page and Bonham as the best in the business. He adds that as individuals, all four of the Zeppelin boys are individual geniuses. He added that Zeppelin has influenced the music of Sabbath. You can watch his comments during Zeppelin's induction into the British Music Industry Hall of Fame. Many famous musicians also sang their praises about Zeppelin.
He did and rightfully so. But without Iommi, there would be no extreme forms of metal. He was the first to make power chords and feedback
A
Personal
Obsession. Sabbath were
The undisputed fathers of what later was heavy metal. Iommi Should be in the hall of fame himself only for creating a new genre. He created a freakin genre. No matter what others say about it or think about heavy metal it’s no small feat to create a genre on your own.
Commination Breakdown was the start of Heavy Metal .... Led Zep.
Zep didn’t invent metal. Get over it zep fanboys.
@@keitha.563 As I said in my previous comment, Led Zeppelin was the purveyor of 'rock' based on blues, not metal. Metal was created later on.
@@Mike-aka747🤣the attitude you spit is Ridiculous. 🤘🏼
Saw Led Zeppelin Seattle 1977 I was 13 yrs. My big brother took me.. ☝️
Amazing Scott! Rock on!!
Give me a break Black Sabbath couldn’t put a patch on Led Zeppelin’s ass
@@dannyboyd6795got that right!
Cool! Isn’t that one of the shows that was videoed too? I remember watching Bonham perform Bonzo’s Montreux from that show, I believe.
thats one to remember!! -1977 could have been song remains the same? went that year too!!
Hard to believe BS were having trouble with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. It turned out to be an incredible mind blowing album!
Two legendary bands.
I was around back then. I didn't know much about the behind-the-scenes stuff. But I did know that I wanted every album by Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Nazareth, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Slade & David Bowie, that I could get my hands on. All of the above were pioneers, & very influential towards what came next.
Yup. You are correct. I was around too. We're old. Young people can't understand. But the reason we couldn't know about all the "behind the scene" stuff is because we didn't have social media. But we did have magazines. But they weren't too informative. But I really do miss those vinyl albums and rock magazines. Good times for sure!
Peace.
@@freddyferrillo9704 Wow! Every one of those bands you just named are Epic!
Even though I'm from a generation later, born in 80, I never had much use for the music of my day when I was younger. I preferred 60s and 70s rock and Zeppelin and Sabbath were and still are my all time favorites. Even when I grew up and that music had already been around for awhile there was no way to find out information about the recording process of albums, the personal lives and friends of various band members etc. or anything like you can today with the internet. In a way it made things more interesting, kind of like the mystery of it. If you did hear something about them it was probably bullshit lol. Now you can hear all kinds of stuff from the musicians themselves. Many times when I hear the stories about why or how they did something it would be totally different from what I would have thought. Like wondering for years about an album cover and then finding out they did it as a joke or something 😅
@@michaelknight4041 i was a teen in 1970s & bc i didn't know anything about them, some of them seemed like actual Music Gods to me, especially Led Zeppelin & Jimmy Hendrix! Many of the musicians seemed magical or almost superhuman to me, but not quite like Real Gods; i was 100% certain that Hendrix was a God, listening to him on LSD convinced me! 😂 & i continued to believe it permanently. 😂
Wow! Thats amazing! The two greatest bands together! I want to hear this!
Reid did not "decline" to join Led Zeppelin. He had signed up for opening the Stones tour for two weeks. He offered to audition for Page once he got back, but Jimmy said it was now or never. Reid later did a gig and ran sound for Band of Joy and suggested Plant to Page.
so he pretty much declined to do the audition because of the commitment to the stones business deal
I love both of these bands and their music. Both have just incredible first albums and the rest of their music has stood the test of time in both cases. Sabbath was a bit darker than Zeppelin was but both bands could send shivers down your spine with their music.
SABBATH IS NOT OVERATED!
Just as good as zep
@@FuxerzPriest better than both
@JonMallek love all 3 to each their own. But Sabbath is awesome. Not garbage. Rock on 🤘
I disagree...and they certainly could never touch Zeppelin!!
@JonMallek surely you jest 😂
The Three Men in a Boat was also the hang out for Slade, who were long term friends of both bands. Led Zeppelin's manager, Peter Grant, learned his trade working for Don Arden, who was Sabbath's manager.
Slade was epic.
They don't get the credit that they should.
Kiss ripped off their innovation/style.
@@RichWards-Wins i was a teen in 1970s but i didn't know anyone who had Slade albums, what LPs do you recommend?
@@nightwi1dernessbrianjohnso803
It depends on which era you enjoy.
The first three albums that I recommend is:
1) Slade -*Keep your hands off my Power supply*
Contains my two fav Slade songs; *Run Runaway* and *My Oh My.*
This is for those who love the 80s.
2) Slade *-Slayed?*
For those who love the 70s.
Kiss ripped off alot of material from Slade in this era.
3) Slade - *Greatest hits.*
Wet your whistle with these fun party bangers.
And check out these notable songs that are crowd pleasers:
-Cum on feel the noize
-You'll never walk alone
-Auld Lang Syne
(The best version I've ever heard of this song)
This was really a great episode mate.....kudos!!!
Big thanks, great pleasure!!!
I love hearing stories like this 😊👍
Big thanks, great pleasure!
As a teen in 90's i was hooked mainly on Sabbath but i liked Zeppelin too. My favorite two bands. Now its mostly Sabbath, Dio, Ozzy and Rabdy Rhodes. 🎸
The Rock gods wouldnt allow us mere mortals to observe a Sabbath/Zeppelin jam.
Enjoyed that. The Three Men In A Boat was actually on the Beechdale Estate in Walsall - Bloxwich is a mile or so further north. It is a traditional no-frills Black Country working class area - as well as being frequented by Bonham and Plant, Rob Halford also used to live on the Beechdale.
Thank you, very interesting!
Two of my top bands ever, the epitome of real rock n roll, no doubt! Listening to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath on 8 track back in the 70’s
They've all had quite the influence on me in guitar journey...
My first song I learned was a Sabbath song way back in 1980.
By the way, James Hetfield is a huge fan of Black Sabbath. We can hear the influence on some Metallica albums, especially 'Black Album': the song 'Unforgiven' and some other songs.
This is a minor point no doubt but I believe that Jimmy's first choice for a lead singer for Zeppelin was Steve Marriott.
And Don Arden told Jimmy to back off or he'd break his fingers lol.
Was his second choice
it is said Terry Reid was Jimmys first pick
Who Plant , ironically, sounds almost identical to!
@@JimmyKnight-ql4yfI think all three of them sound remarkably similar - at least delivery wise
Sounded like John Paul Jones, Robert Plant & John Bonham jamming & spark really helped to break through Tony’s writers block, all for Tony to just ultimately call Zeppelin’s studio visits & help a distraction?…A long lost Sabbath+Zeppelin secret jam session recording from 1973, would be amazing to listen to!…🔊
Bill Ward spoke very highly of John Bonham. Bill referred to John as a true musician and referred to himself as more of a reactionary drummer. I think Bill felt John was better than him but it never stopped Ward from cementing his own place in Heavy Metal History. 🖤
I think that many people feel that Bill Ward was the best drummer for Sabbath!
@@out99990he sure was. Perfect fit.
Ward didn't have a blueprint for heavy metal drumming but did a fantastic job feeling his way through it.
For the most part all I hear is that a lot of the classic musicians really liked Tony. Bonzo and Brian May for example were good friends with him and would jam with him all the time. Him and Sir Dr Brian May are still like literal best friends to this day!
And Eddie Van Halen was good buddies with Tony
Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin are both Epic! Theres no comparison!
I mean zep
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That sabbath. Sabbath was revolutionary
@@AspiringSpaceWizard 😅 Zeppelin was on another level
Wouldn't mind hearing the jams with Jones and Bonham playing the rhythm section for Black Sabbath!
Such an awesome video! Much love
Thank you so much!! I appreciate!
Wow... what an incredible time!
When music was music.
You’re a great story teller!
BEING A TEEN IN THE 70S
IT WAS THESE BANDS
THAT TEENAGER MOSTLY LISTENED 🎶 TOO
THE BEATLES
LED ZEPPELIN
ROLLING STONES
BLACK SABBATH
THE WHO
John Lennon was a waste of oxygen. The best thing he ever did was kill the Beatles and let George and Paul go on their own to record actual quality music.
@evansellars8728 YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE JOHNS VIEWS AND HIS BAD TASTE IN WOMEN BUT U DO TO RESPECT HIS SONG COMPOSING !
Talking Maserati. Shows a Cobra and a Jensen Interceptor. Obviously Bonzo's. Fords best 427. One of Mopar's best 440 magnum. In British cars. No wonder he didn't give a s... about his Maserati. If he'd had a Pantera before Elvis, he would have driven Zeps limo with Peter Grant and his Thompson to wherever it broke down ( which it was going to do);and, show Elvis how it's done.
Great video Kar.
Big thanks Shawn!
Can you imagine how much that reel (or reels)
Of tape would be worth?
The mind boggles!!🤪
People really need to hear Jimmy Page's avant garde album Lucifer Rising, great stuff
Also 20 min version of Swan song is badass. have it on Physical outtakes CD
Black Zeppelin.....Master of Zoso
Detective was also on the Swan Song record label from what I remember
I loved side 2 of Sabbaths debut, all the spastic leads , on Warning etc. I never heard anything by Page that could top it ! I like Zeppelin ,not putting them down. I'd go through phases. Zeppelin were more accessible to mainstream masses ! Happy Hippies ! Sabbath were the Sad Boys ,alot less mainstream,so what did you expect?
As a witness of those days I can verify all you say. Well said!
Many thanks!
I’ve always fantasized about Black Sabbath with Bonham on the kit and how amazingly fucking awesome that would sound. I never knew that they knew each other and jammed together. WOW, what could have been!
Would like to hear about the time Black Sabbath had a run in with AC/DC. I remember reading that Geezer Butler pulled a knife out, but there wasn’t much detail about what caused the argument.
"Maybe Lucifer" lol well, that's one way to get out of it/avoiding it...
Jimmy Page tried to recruit Steve Marriott and was threatened by Marriott's manager, something about trying to play guitar with broken thumbs.
I want to hear that tape
Because Zeppelin were better than EVERYONE ELSE!!
Zep = overblown and overrated crap. My opinion so deal with it folks.
@@magnuswettermark82932nd that.
The Beatles changed everything more than any other band did. Led Zeppelin is still one of the most revolutionary bands of all time, though.
@DinkusDoof It's true :/
A wise decision by Sabbath, not signing with the Swansong. The Sabbath were their friends yet their rivals on the same pedestal musically.
Personally, Zep were my original favorites but for the past few decades, Purple and Black are my favorite colors.
Love Zep and Sabbath very interesting.
Iommi knew Page plagiarized most of Zep's songs
Name all the songs they plagiarised and I’ll name all of the songs they didn’t.
Very interesting.
Many thanks!
I didn't know Peter Grant learned from Don Arden. There is your reason. Peter respected Arden. Sabbath was afraid.
Yes, Peter Grant worked for promoter Don Arden in the early Sixties. In 1963, Grant was hired by Don Arden. Arden managed the careers of rock acts such as Small Faces, Black Sabbath, ELO etc.
Kashmir, my favourite of all Led Zeppelin's masterpieces.
Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸
Live Aid ❤❤❤
The song Kashmir was also the inspiration for Rainbow's Gates Of Babylon
Probably Stargazer as well
@@DoctorWho1983 Ha! Actually you are correct. I got the songs mixed up.
Actually it was the inspiration for Stargazer. Blackmore said it.
Is it ok if I like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and The Cars?
Cars? really?
Hahaha,Its ok !
It is A-ok. Took me a while to appreciate The Cars ( mostly because I didn’t want the 70s to end) Moving in Stereo is my favorite Cars track
Yup! Love all three!
Led Zeppelin Pink Floyd AC/DC and Rush are the four horsemen of rock music. The four most important rock bands of all time.
You can drop AC/DC from that list entirely. They stick out like a sore thumb. The Rolling Stones brought forth Rock alongside these legends.
@Catticombs Agree with you about AC/DC. Wouldn't list them next to the other 3. But I would place The Beatles in that list before The Stones.
@@charliesaucier3352 I might too, but the Beatles have a little more eclecticism. Certainly there would be no rock without them.
Black Zeppelin/Led Sabbath
Zeppelin Bloody Zeppelin
How did a jam ruin the session, don’t get it
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Misleading title tbfh, good content tho
Many thanks, much appreciated! It's a story about Led Zeppelin's connection with Black Sabbath. And I had to choose a focal point to write the title and I decided to pick up this one because it's the most intriguing part of the story. I mean Led Zeppelin came to hang out with Sabbath to sign them to their label 'Swang Song' but Ozzy told them to 'Get Lost' and Tony said that they ruined their session.
That would have been freaking awesome if Sabbath signed to Swan Song. Can you imagine how much better everything after the SBS album would have been without the soul destroying ripping off from Patrick Meehan and company?
I always wondered if Page stole KASHMIRS riff from Eastern music. Like Blackmore always admitted he stole this and that from there and so, Page wasnt so fast to admit things like that.
Sabbath bloody Sabbath rules.
Are these stories true? Whats the source of this?
Yes of course.
I'm surprised they release Good times bad times has a single because you know how Zeppelin was they didn't really like releasing singles you had to get the whole entire album if you really wanted to get the true sound of it which I agree with it a lot to be honest
Arden is Sharon Osboure’s father.
Never knew that created the link from her to Ozzy. Small world isn't it!
I prefer Sabbath over Zeppelin.
You got that right
🤘
LOL, zeppelin is mutli-dimensional. sabbath is a one trick pony
Either you haven’t heard much Sabbath or your total Zep fanboy who buys into Their claptrap. I’m sorry
Hell. Deep Purple are better than Zeppelin too. The so called unholy trinity of early
Hard rock. And Zeppelin are 3rd
Place. They ripped off the first 4 albums
And the albums afterwards were spiraling downhill in quality. Especially Presense and In Through the Outdoor. Maybe 2-3 good tracks only both. Sabbath had 3 duff tracks
Total In the seventies. FX Breakout and She’s Gone. The Dio years were flawless. Born Again has one shitty track. That’s 4 tracks from 1970-1983. The discography in that time frame is solid gold. Sabbath hands down are better.
If they did Ozzy started it, and later regretting it
Hmmmmm...its Sabbath had signed to Swan Song, they wouldnt have gone broke
THEY WERE AND ARE FRIENDS. FUNNY STORY.
So Tony Iommi basically had a hand in creating Zeppelin if he talked Plant and Bonham
Into giving it a go. Sounds like Robert and John were unsure about joining Jimmy.
Led zeppelin also made bitchy remarks about Deep Purple, particularly Plant and Jones. Plant actually called Gillan a screamer.
Screamer?
That's rich coming from Mr Plátano
So sabbath had writers block and reached for labeling a jam session as a “distraction”? Seriously?
No disrespect but here is how u get vibrato like Michael schenker. U first listen but not to the amp. U listen to nowhere but ur still listening. This makes the vibrato way louder. Practice and record to test if ur doing it right. The separate part is u make it with ur soul. Soul vibrato. U don't control where it's going but u just do it and it does what u want it to. Like how magneto moves metal. Extra unnecessary is to keep string in back area during vibrtao.
Do not use toothpaste with fluoride it lowers IQ
They sound exactly alike to me
The motorcycle guy picture isn’t John Bonham
Yeah looks nothing like him
It's Fred Johnson
What makes you think so? I believe it's Bonham. It's the same face in the next photo. Here is a funny story: in 1973 the members of Led Zeppelin gave drummer John Bonham a Harley Davidson for his 25th birthday, which he promptly rode up and down the hallways of his hotel, causing thousands of dollars in damage. The next day, he wrote a check for the damages and said "Oh, and keep the bike."
Ozzy: Hey Robert, why don't you button up your shirt in concert?
Robert: Hey Ozzy, why don't you go snort up some ants?
Tony: Hey Jimmy, why don't play something besides a acoustic you folk geek?
Jimmy: Hey Tony, why don't you shave off your moustache super mario?
Geezer: Hey John Paul, why don't you have a cool stage name instead of a historicial name?
John Paul: Hey Geezer, is that your name your actual age of 80?
Bill: Hey John, why don't add some more swing to the beat?
John: Hey Bill, why don't you go swing off a tree?
I remember reading a plant interview back in the 80s and he’s telling the story about the first time he saw Sabbath. Page asked how are they and he replied they’re shit. Typical Plant he must of been joking or jealous of Bonham and Iomiis friendship 😝
Ozzy called plant. His cat was lost
OZZY ODDBALL AND BLACK BIRDBATH ARE NO MATCH FOR THE MIGHTY ZEP FACE IT THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER BAND AS GREAT AS ZEPPLIN WAS
It’s actually funny that you think that the Cars are serious music. Ask any 21 year old who The Cars are. None of them ever heard of them. I can guarantee you that all of them know who Black Sabbath is and know who Tony Iommi is. Young or Older, everyone knows Sabbath. What is actually Very Funny is that you think Black Sabbath is over rated. 55 years ( 1969 ) says that a lot of people like and listen to Black Sabbath. The Cars lasted a couple of years and unless you listen to bubble gum music, no one knows them. Without the Scorpions, no one on this earth would know who the hell Michael Schenker is, or was. Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin are Giants. I still say that you are talking about nobody’s.
Cars not bubble gum, listen to the musicianship
Couldn't afford drum kits but bought Maseratis? OK ! ✌️👍🤪🤪🤪
Bill Ward couldn't afford but John Bonham could
Idk, heard these stories but facts differ. I think most of it false. Where you get this info?
I have interest in both of these bands for their music. But the Boomer arguments and gossip over them are annoying and make me like them less. It’s 50 years ago. Get over it.
Obviously, Zeppelin was more successful. They had a much greater variety of styles, and they were better musicians. They also clearly played a role in inspiring metal, before Sabbath existed, if that matters to somebody. The same goes for Jimi Hendrix and Cream, and others. What you like better is up to you. The time when listening to a particular band or style of music and hating fans of others was a thing is over. Nobody cares, everybody listens to everything now. It’s not sports. Your personal identity is not defined by who your favorite bands is.
Going around 50 years later yelling “my band is better than yours!” and being actually mad about it just makes you look weird.
And then UFO told Both of em to get lost it was Their Time.
Cuz fairies wear boots.
(Oh, you're goin' straight to hell for that one )
Because Sabbath didn’t know where the bank was.
Comparing Sabbath with Zeppelin is laughable. Singer no comparison Ozzy had relevant lyrics.on bass gezzer is obvious and I'd take Bill ward any day.and page is more diversed in sounds. Hey one out four ain't bad.
Name one Sabbath song that compares to The Rain Song
You are insane. Zeppelin were all superior musicians. I'm sure Sabbath would agree.
Zeppelin is a cover band, Sabbath is original. Both good
Led were fancy magic boys in comparison
Go listen to ayyy ayyy auyyy
🔥🔥🔥🎸🎸TONI 🎸IOMMI HAS A NICK NAME : RIFF LORD !!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS THE KING OF RIFFS... BLACK SABBATH ( PREFERRABLY RONNIE JAMES DIO ) ON VOCALS !!👍👍👍👍💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😎
I think Black Sabbath sucks - always preferred Judas Priest. Love Zeppelin 😍😍😍
Guitar riffs on Kashmir?? Isn't the song all orchestral and strings?.. (Arguably one of Zepp's worst songs ever.)
My goodness rock fans think these guys are good. It is funny, Jimmy Page can't read a night and Tony iommi can play riffs, big stinking dea.
Black Sabbath is way overrated
Spelt Led Zeppelin wrong
Black Sabbath is underrated. They only started getting recognition after the 90's bands started to say Sabbath was an influence on them, bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc.
@@CalebePriester in high school that's all they talked about I listen to go this sucks oh yeah that was in the 84
@@topgunvideos774Honestly i thought Sabbath fanboys respected Zep unlike the salty Deep Purple and Humble Pie fanboys. Obviously i was wrong. Black Sabbath was great, Led Zeppelin was greater. Deal with it. Now go listen to Born Again and Never Say Die and all of the other abysmal tnrowaway garbage records they made.
@@promark5317 I’ll listen to the first 6 👍🏼
Bonham could only play singles and very loud. most over rated drummer in history
Agree one hundred percent
The 2 of you need to hook up more often. To each his own. But be prepared for a record number of dislikes. Hit dislike everyone!!!! Let's help them set a record!!!!!
@@Joel-yj3ic No one cares
Only singles? His double strokes were MONSTROUS. Are you even a drummer? This is the most ignorant thing ive ever heard. You have no idea what youre talking about. Ward is great but he wasnt and will never be on the same level as Bonzo. Deal with it and stop coping. Im a drummer, youre iviously not. His technique was impeccable. Watch his Royal Albert Hall moby dick and then tell me only used singles. If you dont know what youre talking about then dont say anything. You literally have NO IDEA what youre talking about. Youre just salty because Bonzo os 100x more influential than Ward. Absolutely delusional. John Bonham>>>>>>>Bill Ward. Deal with it. Ugh
His double strokes were impeccable. Do you even play drums? Watch RAH 1970 and tell me he only uses singles. You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Im a drummer, youre obviously not. Youre just salty.
These 2 bands needed to collaborate, more than any.
They did
zeps are very overrated as a band... Was it all that difficult for them to find a replacement? For instance, they lost a drummer and they disbanded... Sabbath sacked a singer and the next one gave them new life altogether... This serves for me, as a clue of which band had pure talent and were true musicians... And also zeps sounded awful at live performances... And page? Why should he always be regarded as the top guitarist after Hendrix? I mean Iommi lost the tips of his fingers but he was technically great and perfect as a composer... I mean Blackmore and Iommi are much much better than page as a composer...
Load of nonsense.
zeppelin recorded some of the greatest studio albums ever made..but, sorry, "LIVE", they were just awful...they went way to over board on the blues stuff. Some of their best songs were unrecognizable "live"..Dazed and Confused especially. I saw them in 1977 at the Pontiac Silverdome...and we left half way thru. They were just awful..
There was no Black Sabbath after Ozzy left, it went to crap.