Every year I search for this channel to see this kind of tests, because it’s extremely deep and good. And thanks of the translation on TH-cam, I can understand what is he talking about. Best regards from Cuba 👋
Let us know what you find out about the smaller Pro series. I’m tempted to pick one up, but only if performance is up to par with the Max. Also, great review as always. Geekerwan is about the only channel I look to for phone reviews these days. Thanks again for the English subs
They did, it's in the video. The GPU performance on the 16 pro is either the same as the 16 pro max or slightly slower, and it also runs hotter on the 16 pro. They suspect that it might be some sort of component issue.
@@Dansoo just some corrections 🙏🏻 Based on this video, 1. The 16 Pro Max is consistently running hotter than 16 Pro in gaming. 2. 固件 specifically means firmware, not component. Hope this makes everything clearer.
The Pro has a smaller body and now has the tetra prism camera (5x optical zoom). So they have less space for better heat dissipation so I guess that's the problem, so it throttles more.
Hi bruh, I'm a fan of your work! I can't find any videos as good as yours. Please make some videos in English too. Watching from India! Please upload some videos in your other channel
Reading this through Google Translate but this is a good summary. Apple has the benefits of closer hardware and software integration than other Android makers. This applies to their Mac line-up too. iPhone is indeed an excellent phone however, the mobile phone market has reached a saturation point, where the software is now playing a bigger part than the hardware. Mobile chipsets are good enough for most people's daily usage these days. Mobile computers (laptops) are in a similar position, while the desktop computer market is different. It will be interesting to see what Apple, Google, Huawei, and Microsoft will achieve in the mobile and computer space in the next few years.
English audio translation would be great to keep our eyes on the content instead of reading the subtitles.. Also your content would reach a larger audience.
Eventually there should be a video on their English channel. Their videos are among the best when benchmarking smartphone chips. Really shows why efficiency is far more important than peak performance.
@@battery_wattage oh they do have an English channel? This content is unbelievable. English dubber should jump on it day 0 each fall. Great job 极客湾Geekerwan! (AKA "Geek Bay" it seems)
@@UserCommenter yes their English Channel is simply called geekerwan. If you haven’t, I strongly recommend watching “The Smartphone CPU Review You Need to Watch”. It gives thorough explanations for why peak performance that every smartphone reviewer is testing is very misleading and non representative. Once you watch that video you won’t care about Geekbench scores that much anymore.
iPhone 16 Pro with MetalFX, highest graphics, AND 120fps uses a ridiculous 15 watts of power!!! But showing that it's even possible for at least one minute, it shows the potential of these devices and what's to come.
Thanks for sharing! Just a quick off-topic question: I have USDT in my OKX wallet and I have the recovery phrase. -----------. What is the best way to transfer them to Binance?
Since iPhone 15 pro is known for its thermal issue, I’ve been holding back from upgrade my current phone to it. Now the iPhone 16 Pro has improved thermal performance, i finally could upgrade my phone with peace of mind.
Spec 2017 apple cpu performance per watt still the same from a15 Apple a15 e core int : 2.45 / 0.49 = 4.9/ watt Apple a 18 e core int : 3.23/0.65 = 4.97 / watt
Thanks, interesting. As a feedback, I think it’s best to let your translations be reviewed (castration, tooth paste, even your own channel name Geeker Bay or something). But those are minor stuff! Keep up the good work and thanks for translating at all.
The part I don’t understand is this: excluding the performance boost provided by ray tracing cores, the A18 Pro at 12W offers the same graphics performance as the M1 at 12W. Since the A18 Pro comes with a 3nm process and a new architecture, shouldn’t it deliver the same performance as the M1 while consuming less power?
Hello! Thanks again for the English subtitles. Just a request, can you please put up the English names of the games you test in the subtitles? That'll help a lot, thank you! 😊
@@INTJ791 I understood only Genshin and ZZZ. Eitherways, don't you think it'll be easier to understand if we get english subtitles? Say what if they play a game which we have never seen?
@@seri0ushykun982yea, its easier, but the main audience is for chinese speaker, (uploaded to bilibili, china version of youtube) this youtube video released at almost same time ,
ooooh looking forward to the next detailed review about the latest iphone, imaging? I hope android phones get that kind of review as well... though probably won't come true xD
But the decoding of these Chipsets with cortex is terrible, the X4 which is the last top-of-the-line ARM has 6-width decoding and now Apple already has a CPU with 10-width decoding, there is no competitor at the height for Apple at this time, even because the A18 is based on the M4, so until something comes out in the Android world that equates to this it will take time, and I don’t see the Oryon CPU doing miracles.
Performance per watt more important than IPC, based on spec 2017, performance per watt still the same means it basically overclock from A15 using advantage of tsmc 3nm
No, the change to 10 width Decoding gave an advantage to A18 Pro, and there is nothing in the Android world with these features, at this very moment the Cortex X4 which is the best of the ARM Architecture has 6 width decoding, the curious thing is that it is below the 2021 A14 Bionic with 8 width decoding, Apple’s P-colors are extremely powerful leaving any solution in the Android world in the Slipper, in fact since the A13 Bionic this has been happening.
@@INTJ791 Yes, in scalability you could use 10 width Encoding but no company has adopted this, and with the depth tests they revealed that Cortex X4 in both 8gen3 and Dimensity are using 6/8 decodings, and in reality no one knows if Android has the ability to decode so many instructions, what happens is that Apple updates IOS to the average that their Silicon are receiving Update.
看苹果发布会不如看极客湾😂
說得對極了，今年發佈會無聊到差點睡著！
真的
極客灣比蘋果還會賣蘋果手機😂
@@anl88我是真的在看手錶的時候就睡著了🥲
本來還想換的看到心灰意冷
你們都是第一次看蘋果發佈會嗎？
蘋果的特色 一向不是講全部
而是由用戶實際體驗下來的發現的差異
改的都是硬件 系統 生態上的交互運用
而不是外觀跟表面的數據內容
理科男上线了，，用数据说话 ，而不是用感觉 。。。赞一个。
This channel is the best. Everything you make is so high quality. Keep it up!
你是华人你不会华语？
背景牆上的乖乖～
很可以喔
台灣科技廠核心技術😂😂😂
眼力真好
「首台（套）重大技術裝備推廣應用指導目錄（2024年版）」:
裝置名稱: 乖乖綠包裝版 (KuaiK Pass 2.1.0)
技術指標: 運氣增益>99.99% 保存期限>1年
可能是上次computex順便買的XD
應該是今年computex紀念品
凌晨上片 真的是太狠了
半夜翻牆容易些
@@花无缺-t3o 其实是他们一直弄到凌晨才完成了影片，b站也是凌晨3点发布
是要等蘋果解禁期吧
@@花无缺-t3o 这些知名媒体人都是有官方备案的合法上外网，不可能翻墙的，不然一抓一个准
@@poohoo4997 你确定吗，testv都用小飞机和tg，这玩意也是审批后能用得吗
TiME TAG 參考
00:00 前言
00:51 SoC工藝與配置介紹
01:40 1. CPU微架構
01:40 | CPU微架構
02:24 | 支持SME指令
02:36 | Cache測試
03:12 | GPU光追性能測試
04:01 2. CPU單核性能與能效測試
05:24 | SPEC2017-P核CPU測試
05:52 | SPEC2017-P核單核能效曲線
06:45 | SPEC2017-E核CPU測試
07:20 | SPEC2017-E核單核能效曲線
07:59 3. 基準測試與能效曲線(賽博鬥蛐蛐環節)
08:08 | iOS 17 vs. iOS 18 CPU Boost機制比較
08:38 | Geekbench 6-CPU測試
09:08 | Geekbench 6-能效曲線
09:56 | GB5 vs. GB6 調度策略比較
10:12 | Geekbench 5-CPU測試
10:55 | Geekbench 5-能效曲線
11:47 | 3DMARK SNL測試項目介紹
12:20 | 3DMARK SNL-能效曲線
13:21 4. 遊戲測試
13:30 | 原神/須彌城跑圖
14:55 | 崩壞:星穹鐵道/匹諾康尼--黃金的時刻跑圖
16:13 | 絕區零/光映廣場跑圖
16:47 | 鳴潮/戰鬥場景
17:33 | 遊戲測試總結
18:08 5.續航表現
18:32 | 續航測試比較
19:18 6.散熱表現
19:41 | 3DMARK WLE-30分鐘壓力測試
20:46 結語
21:30 預告:影像與5G通訊評測加入性能分析
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極客灣的評測還是比發布會好看多了
Finally a review with a deep dive into A18/A18 pro performance and heat dissipation!
你是华人你不会华语？
先看最速男鍾文澤，再看影像最強影視颶風，接著看實測最紮實極客灣，下一個等實拆最頂的微機分❤，然後就可以可以準備下單啦
数码评测还得看中国创作者
@@淡若轻风-s8k 確實 這也是沒辦法的事
小劇場看大耳朵
@@Steven-cz2ng 帶勁
@@淡若轻风-s8k 沒辦法 彎彎各個都是水影片的
等你好久了
Every year I search for this channel to see this kind of tests, because it’s extremely deep and good. And thanks of the translation on TH-cam, I can understand what is he talking about. Best regards from Cuba 👋
6025你写什么鬼东西？
蘋果老大哥不愧是老大哥
效能強度只是想不想做，而不是不會做
蘋果真貼心，做一年放水好幾年，以免其他手機沒市場
應該都有聽過一句話吧
一開始衝第一 沒有為自己留底牌是沒有任何意義的 也不是不知道市場怎麼變化
@@Jin-dc1mi 牙膏就是淪落到人人喊打的地步
不是怕其他手機沒市場 是控制自己成本最大化營收 庫克你懂的😂
@@michaelzheng1117其他廠不是佛是沒本錢牙膏
@@asdfghjkl-v3r SCM大師
因为今年的 pro 使用了新的金属封装堆叠式电池，而且是唯一使用新电池的机型，所以性能策略更保守。
而其他机型，包括 pro max ，都还是使用旧的软包堆叠式电池，所以性能策略更成熟。
堆叠式电池有什么好处呢
@@SW-by3yt
最大的好處就是 pro系列換電池的錢都可以換汽車電瓶了 真的超猛😂
此信息来源是哪里？
i16 pro換電池4k多coco,史上換電池最貴的機型
@@SuStWind 邦乔威与锋子 的电池测评
Way better than American reviewers thank you!!!!
你写什么鬼东西？
The quality of this channel is AMAZING.
看到背景的那一包乖乖我就知道可以100%相信這個頻道的專業度了
乖乖有那么厉害吗😂
@@MaranXue 這可是台積電領先全世界的秘密，可以上網查「綠色乖乖」
哈哈 也注意太細節了😂
The best chip review🔥
王者回归，觉得就如你分析的8gen4今年应该干不过苹果了，竞争是好事，经过去年的8gen3的洗脸，今年就不敢再挤牙膏了🧐
最後看到 MTF 圖表感覺好期待啊!
Let us know what you find out about the smaller Pro series. I’m tempted to pick one up, but only if performance is up to par with the Max.
Also, great review as always. Geekerwan is about the only channel I look to for phone reviews these days. Thanks again for the English subs
They did, it's in the video.
The GPU performance on the 16 pro is either the same as the 16 pro max or slightly slower, and it also runs hotter on the 16 pro.
They suspect that it might be some sort of component issue.
@@Dansoo just some corrections 🙏🏻
Based on this video,
1. The 16 Pro Max is consistently running hotter than 16 Pro in gaming.
2. 固件 specifically means firmware, not component.
Hope this makes everything clearer.
@@Dansoofirmware issue. It’s not pushing as much power as the other iPhones.
only the smaller pros use metal case for the battery, I think it is what makes the difference regarding of the performance and heat dissipation
The Pro has a smaller body and now has the tetra prism camera (5x optical zoom). So they have less space for better heat dissipation so I guess that's the problem, so it throttles more.
身為安卓用戶只能說讚啦
有來有回才能逼彼此不擠牙膏，所有用戶都得利
看透露 8gen4 也很值得期待，8g4的自研架構不知道能帶來甚麼表現
期待8g4的發表 !!!!!!!
誰跟你有來有回 別自己抬高身價好嗎 安卓各種try hard 蘋果還不是繼續擠牙膏 根本沒威脅阿 可憐
明明大家都在正常討論，怎麼總是會有智商低於平均值的優越怪人出來挑釁別人啊，只能說一種米養百種人，哀，可憐哪
沒什麼好期待了 x elite就已經拉坨大的了 差到極客彎都不想測了 當然 跑分肯定會很好看 畢竟這就是這幾年高通的路線 不管功耗 不管安卓碎片化 跑了一個用不到的性能 反正高通只是賣晶片的 終端廠商能不能做到軟硬結合他不管 白名單app火力全開就好
笑死 怎麼有卓粉在破防😂😂
@@gelade这代还挤牙膏？怕你是根本没看就留言了，极客弯都说这次没有挤牙膏了，还是你比人家专业？还是继续用你的遥遥领先吧🤣
这期确实可以，特别特别期待信号测试
1.6克炸药包要爆
很客观，你们的测评一直都很令人舒适
果然是極客灣，趕在凌晨上片太狠了。
凌晨容易翻墙
@@花无缺-t3o 他们不缺钱
@@MisakaMana 他们的钱怎么来的？
@@MisakaMana 有多少钱才叫不缺钱？
@@花无缺-t3o 幽默，这支片子b站也是半夜发布，其他片子在yt也是白天发布，可算让你逮着黑了
我去年从12 PM换到三星Z fold 5，今年打算换到16 Pro了。苹果终于算是把这个形态的手机迭代到基本成熟了，16 Pro用几年之后等AI软件迭代成熟了，再换个AI性能更强的iPhone就行了。
Fold 不好吗？想了解下
ai？中国区会被閹割
@@ZhangWei0513 Fold 对于出门需要携带大屏幕设备的人很友好，毕竟方便携带。但我个人的使用情况是一年的时间内屏打开不超过100次。因为大多数的应用在外屏上体验比内屏好很多，所以完全没必要折磨自己用内屏。但三星Fold外屏相对较小，然后相对普通小屏手机又重很多。还有一个就是Fold 5的内外屏的显示效果都不如普通手机（对比手里的iPhone 12和Pixel 9）。Fold的大屏+手写笔确实不可替代，但就我个人而言，为了一个一年可能也就用几次的功能而牺牲其他方面的体验不值得。当然了，我的选择还有其他因素，比如安卓推送延迟问题，比如有些应用不开发安卓版，等等。还有就是配件的生态，三星的Galaxy Watch以及谷歌的Pixel Watch和Apple Watch相比体验差太多了，表带选择也少很多。反正一大堆自己的主观感受，就不展开废话了🤣
打算換plus
@@ZhangWei0513性能很好，但是不知道为什么我在中国使用总是很烫。折叠屏说实话有点不方便
期待未來影像評測
左轉影視颶風
@@羽戀-x8u 剛看完，不過未來極客灣的評測應該是比較硬核的，應該會有不一樣的呈現
Hi bruh, I'm a fan of your work! I can't find any videos as good as yours. Please make some videos in English too.
Watching from India!
Please upload some videos in your other channel
Thank you from Sydney Australia ❤
2846你写什么鬼东西？
thank you for your great work as always
极客湾的分析确实不错，看完后有一个强烈的感觉，不是性能和功耗，而是苹果对于成本控制的精准拿捏，还有硬件软件的配合上的功力。先说一点，除了极客般的性能用户（如游戏，顶级影像等），一般大众真的没必要一定选择16系列。特别是13系列的用户，能找到靠谱的电池更换的话，还是很足够的。
回到正题，成本控制上库克时代确实达到了高峰。UP提到换成安卓级别的散热就完美了。但一旦换散热，机身，电池，甚至电路板都要重新设计，而且散热是每一台手机都要加上的，不像软件开发完了后几乎零成本拷贝就行。硬件是妥妥的成本，一旦改每一台出货的都要跟上，那是极其庞大的成本增加。苹果把除了芯片以外的成本尽可能压低，不到必要时候不升级，这几乎是库克时代的典型了。为了提升性能和挽回些口碑，这次真的不上一点散热不行了，那就上一点吧。苹果把最大的成本投到芯片特别是确保优先使用最先进的制程上，这个差不多只有苹果这一类怪兽级别行业大佬才能做到。说他欺负你，那是肯定的，因为他有这个能力。
再谈硬件软件配合。懂计算机的朋友估计也看出来了，苹果的2+4核心用了很久，大核心变态强，小核心变态省电。大家回看软件，iOS里面有超省电的通知机制，不需要APP常驻的（和安卓不同的），还有墓碑机制能够暂时冻结APP，如其说多工作，不如说轮流工作的优化。加上苹果手机APP大部分并不是优先优化超多核心，而是优化短时间充分利用大核，这种苹果手机APP的特色，2+4的设计非常合理的。安卓那边不容易的，开发上要混乱很多，所以安卓的SOC设计很复杂，小核+中核+大核+超大核，然后制程上去了就直接一堆大核心等，都是为何混乱的安卓生态。这点，苹果就是欺负你，因为他有这个能力。
说的很棒，我两个安卓和Apple都用但是Apple是主机
Android still have advantage with fast charging, once you experience 120 watt fast charging, you never want to go back
安卓光是各家深度定制调校的系统就一言难尽，所以稳定高效还真是IPHONE，我是08年初从初代开始用，中间几年换了各家的安卓，各种BUG是问题真是一言难尽，个人觉得我用过最好用的安卓定制锤子系统偏偏又倒了。个人眼睛十分敏感，iphone x开始的OLED我是看不到一分钟就眼睛肿胀流泪，坚持到11这台最后一款LCD，12PM开始OLED的频闪要好很多可以接受了，不打游戏不刷抖音的我，为了续航每代只能选择PM,希望电池技术能早日突破瓶颈。
Reading this through Google Translate but this is a good summary. Apple has the benefits of closer hardware and software integration than other Android makers. This applies to their Mac line-up too. iPhone is indeed an excellent phone however, the mobile phone market has reached a saturation point, where the software is now playing a bigger part than the hardware. Mobile chipsets are good enough for most people's daily usage these days. Mobile computers (laptops) are in a similar position, while the desktop computer market is different.
It will be interesting to see what Apple, Google, Huawei, and Microsoft will achieve in the mobile and computer space in the next few years.
成本控制上，还是没有波音精准。
English audio translation would be great to keep our eyes on the content instead of reading the subtitles.. Also your content would reach a larger audience.
Eventually there should be a video on their English channel. Their videos are among the best when benchmarking smartphone chips. Really shows why efficiency is far more important than peak performance.
@@battery_wattage oh they do have an English channel? This content is unbelievable. English dubber should jump on it day 0 each fall. Great job 极客湾Geekerwan! (AKA "Geek Bay" it seems)
@@UserCommenter yes their English Channel is simply called geekerwan. If you haven’t, I strongly recommend watching “The Smartphone CPU Review You Need to Watch”. It gives thorough explanations for why peak performance that every smartphone reviewer is testing is very misleading and non representative. Once you watch that video you won’t care about Geekbench scores that much anymore.
终于有一个靠谱的视频了，其他的TH-camr那些都是垃圾，这才是咱们关心的改动和真正体现到苹果强大的部分。狠狠打脸那些只是注重外观和一直批评苹果没新意的博主
没新意难道不是事实吗？说到cpu性能升级，你这不是废话吗，哪代安卓旗舰的cpu性能不升级，再说了，骁龙和天玑今年的旗舰芯片还没发布呢，这对比的是上一代安卓阵营处理器
@@a.6743没有要跟你纠结安卓的事 咱门只关心今代苹果和前代苹果的对比
有啥新意？😂全是安卓十年前玩剩下的
每年极客湾对iPhone的评测是我最期待的， 没有之一。
这次果然又没让我失望。
已经干上4Ghz，上次M4ipad我就在想A18频率肯定不会低
@michaelnie-no4ms 当然都有关系
@michaelnie-no4ms 笑死人家设计的芯片你说跟人家没关系，生怕承认苹果牛逼哈哈
水啦！雖然是安卓用戶，但是一定會關注蘋果的性能，如果蘋果連效能或能效被超越，安卓那邊一定牙膏倒吸😂
三星：誰倒吸 是不是在說我
RAM 容量沒改進
恰饭
18:54 安卓好了啦蘋果你很可憐，電池做到4600還沒辦法使用24小時
當初GPU被8Gen2 8Gen3超越後 擠牙膏了兩年 現在終於追上來超過了
這下8gen4 8gen5不能擠牙膏了 真棒
評測方面真的亞洲第一人了！！其他YT可以洗洗睡。
是世界
所以欧美有没有同类型的😃
No no no, best in the world, western smartphone review low quality, only talking about camera and not even consider gaming
除非GN 玩這塊，否則沒人能比
非常厲害的評測❤
Thank you very much for having English subtitles.
你写什么鬼东西？
iPhone 16 Pro with MetalFX, highest graphics, AND 120fps uses a ridiculous 15 watts of power!!! But showing that it's even possible for at least one minute, it shows the potential of these devices and what's to come.
終於，看評測還是要看極客灣，本來打算買16pro，但好在有等評測，決定省錢買16了
16 Pro max才是唯一胜者，还加量不佳价，标准版毕竟只有60hz浪费了这么强处理器的游戏针率上限了
賣i16來測遊戲幀數自己測不就知道。我覺得很難贏s24。s24高溫高壓環境跑遊戲那麼強。
@@GUNDAM说书人 問題是有多少遊戲支援120fps?
就算不打遊戲 高刷在日常用也是感覺比較滑順 比較爽
我現在不用沒有高刷的手機
我實在眼殘，之前就為了高刷去買14pm，不過用很久實在看不出差異... 平常打遊戲或錄東西居多，一天大概遊戲14小時，那蘋果玩遊戲我真體驗不出高刷有啥優勢。
現在完全不想拿大隻的手機，手腕開始有點問題，能盡可能減輕壓力的話一點是一點，16p溫控表現有問題就算了，16差不多了，我的需求比較注重續航、溫度、穩定度。
目前拿ROG，但Android很多東西真的不夠完善，不然ROG的續航、溫度、遊戲穩定度都屌打Apple，不過ROG的問題也是太重了。
Thanks for sharing! Just a quick off-topic question: I have USDT in my OKX wallet and I have the recovery phrase. -----------. What is the best way to transfer them to Binance?
Goooooood~
繼續擠牙膏吧！
沒中文Ai⋯繼續坐等17
终于更新了
終於等到真的發布會
這才是真正遙遙領先
打脸那个落后7nm 还在做折叠的
@@brianleeweihao5030 PG有能力造芯片了？我怎么不知道？
@@brianleeweihao5030人家也从来没吹过7nm芯片遥遥领先啊？甚至到底是不是7nm人家都没公布😂😂😂
@@淡若轻风-s8k 不會吧7nm的庫存也用完了嗎?
@@brianleeweihao50307纳米芯片还能卖两万，气人不？卖两万还秒售罄，气人不？反过来想，如果水果16配个7纳米还有人要不？只能祝愿苹果能永远保持芯片的优势
Thanks for your updates on iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max!
我感觉，以前是手机性能带不动软件
现在是“软件带不动性能”，
性能很强，可是，软件和各种资讯不像以前那么丰富、那么有趣了
手游超無聊
@@mumimumimumimumi是玩手遊的人都偏休閒或根本是沒電腦沒遊戲主機的小孩
手遊養老很舒服啊
不過目前是好玩的都還沒出
確實iOS 17給我的感覺更像是半成品，很多基本的交互設計都沒做好。原本想說如果iOS 18如果一樣不行的話就跳其他陣營了，但目前看起來勉強還行
@@mumimumimumimumihonkai star rail?
做的非常不错
本视频对iPhone 16系列进行了性能分析，搭载全新的A18和A18 Pro处理器，采用TSMC N3E工艺，CPU和GPU性能显著提升，能效表现优异。A18 Pro在单核性能上超越A17 Pro，尤其在浮点运算上提高23%。游戏性能测试中，iPhone 16 Pro Max在高负载情况下表现出色，散热效果明显改善，电池续航时间超过10小时。整体来看，iPhone 16系列在性能、能效和电池寿命方面都超出了预期，是近年来最具竞争力的iPhone系列。
期待好久！
想看遙遙領先的深度性能分析。
最佳评测♥
Since iPhone 15 pro is known for its thermal issue, I’ve been holding back from upgrade my current phone to it. Now the iPhone 16 Pro has improved thermal performance, i finally could upgrade my phone with peace of mind.
exactly, a17 pro feels like a transition and 15 pro series never worth buying
4818你写什么鬼东西？
好讚啊 一直在等遊戲效能檢測 看了買數字系列就足夠了
大家都在說，蘋果擠牙膏、無新意，只有極客灣說“挺強的”。這是只有從細部看，分析到核心的頻道才能說出來的
Spec 2017 apple cpu performance per watt still the same from a15
Apple a15 e core int : 2.45 / 0.49 = 4.9/ watt
Apple a 18 e core int : 3.23/0.65 = 4.97 / watt
確實是在擠阿，自從手機芯片也用M系列的設計開始，而且外觀跟其他更貼近日常使用需求的東西也沒有多少新的東西，這只是因為M系列芯片做的越來越好而剛好提升到手機上，所以數據面才有提升
@@fusanling 你有沒有想過為什麼蘋果在外觀上萬年不變？
人家是不屑好嗎。什麼天圓地方什麼星河環繞什麼月蝕。什麼升降鏡頭什麼三四五折疊，蘋果做不出來嗎。人家根本懶得搞那些花裡胡俏的。外觀做的再與眾不同拿在手裡會旋轉，那又如何。
呵呵
@@doma5275 既然你是這種果粉那也不用跟你說了，還不屑類，2鏡頭變3鏡頭、手機最上面的浮空島、甚至是這代新功能的一鍵拍照錄影，哪一個不是蘋果以外的廠家先做過的，真的不屑就不會加了啦，另外蘋果還有好幾個要做的產品因為種種原因而止步於研發階段沒實體產品，這也是不屑嗎？影片裡也說了他自己一開始都覺得這代毫無創新可言，也就是拿到手測試了芯片能力後才改觀，那也僅僅限於芯片而已
@@fusanling 破爛安卓腦粉好氣笑死
nice channel, good data, impressed.
19:07 我看过的关于续航的测评都是17比18省电，极客湾这个怎么是反的？ 18系统对iPhone15是特别优化吗？
你看的那一个续航测试视频，我看都说18比17更加省电
目前我看到的也是16續航強
手持iphone15 pro，ios17的时候刷抖音都发热，升级到ios18后完全不发热，游戏发热也变小了。续航没注意，但是发热变小了续航应该有提升吧。本来15pro发热严重我准备换16pro的，但是升ios18后好了很多让我不是很想换了
睇評測睇你們就好 加油
喜欢极客湾的专业！！预定了16PM，希望给力。
难怪那么多人买，虽然没什么创新，但却更实用了。
A18是A18 Pro bin下来的，还是单独不同的设计？
同架构，但是规格缩减
芯片之所以有不同规格就是因为良率不同导致的，不是单独设计的，直接在驱动层进行物理锁频锁核心缓存数据就可以
那样成本太高了，没有必要，苹果又不像高通有中低端产品线
很用心的評測，讚👍，請問可以測試16Pro跟16ProMax的高壓力下溫控、以及看影片的續航嗎？很想知道。往年都是因為電量、續航 而選擇大隻的，這次Pro系列 加大體積 雖然不多，但 還是很好奇 這次16Pro系列 大小隻的差異，能否藉由這次的硬體（散熱）、軟體（晶片），來讓人從新回到手感較好的Pro呢？謝謝
还是极客湾和科技美学测的适合男的看，其他的现在都重点测照相机
新功能確實是大部分用戶關心的事
科技美学就算了
科技丰腴，喜欢
唉科技美学一半的时间也是在讲摄像
适当健身吸引异性，疯狂健身吸引同性😍
我想參加！
還在考慮要換哪隻😂
Thanks, interesting. As a feedback, I think it’s best to let your translations be reviewed (castration, tooth paste, even your own channel name Geeker Bay or something). But those are minor stuff! Keep up the good work and thanks for translating at all.
If you picky about channel name,
Chinese pinyin : ji ke wan
Wade giles : chi khe wan
这个频道主要对象是中文观众
The part I don’t understand is this: excluding the performance boost provided by ray tracing cores, the A18 Pro at 12W offers the same graphics performance as the M1 at 12W. Since the A18 Pro comes with a 3nm process and a new architecture, shouldn’t it deliver the same performance as the M1 while consuming less power?
从a17升到a18的能效提升其实更接近于a13升到a14，但以iphone来说其实更像是iphone13这代，毕竟gpu够就行了，买13的这代真的推荐换
Wrong, IPC is not the same as energy efficiency, spec 2017 performance per watt more accurate, geekbench 6 curve because a18 use SME,
買13pro的我是真的爽
@@INTJ791um..I think that means is 16pro battery life better that 13 pro max, so this generation is high CP rate if you need buy.😊
@@INTJ791wtf r u replying for, not a single word is related to what OP has said
13代不錯，這代還是沒超乎預期，應該等下一代CP比較高
还会有mini吗？真的很喜欢小手机，13mini想换了。
我保留了13mini，晚上睡觉用不会砸脸。然后再买一个大的吧，办一个分期付款其实还好。
繼續等mini
Great review!
Bro love this channel pls upload also to your English channel ❤❤❤
兄弟喜欢这个频道，请也上传到您的英语频道
😢😢😢
Hello! Thanks again for the English subtitles.
Just a request, can you please put up the English names of the games you test in the subtitles?
That'll help a lot, thank you! 😊
Bruh, just from the image you should know, genshin, honkai star rail, wuthering waves, zen zero
@@INTJ791 I understood only Genshin and ZZZ.
Eitherways, don't you think it'll be easier to understand if we get english subtitles? Say what if they play a game which we have never seen?
@@seri0ushykun982yea, its easier, but the main audience is for chinese speaker, (uploaded to bilibili, china version of youtube) this youtube video released at almost same time ,
😂
ooooh looking forward to the next detailed review about the latest iphone, imaging? I hope android phones get that kind of review as well... though probably won't come true xD
每年必看 簽
最專業的評測....沒有之一
Simply said, the a18 improvement more noticeable for iphone non pro version, compared to iphone 15 a16, and battery life ios 18 software update
超級專業
我计划是明年从15pm升级到17pm。但愿苹果别开倒车，至少在能耗和续航方面维持现有的16系列的水准😂
就怕第一代2nm和去年的3nm一样翻车
@@zjfjack 所以選擇i16🤣 感覺翻車機會不小
不好說 想當年首款5nm的A14......
以為他的省電表現會很好
iPhone12縮水電池容量
又是首款5G
結果就是續航差到爆
今年发力了明年的肯定又挤牙膏
期待的是明年17pm如果上12g运存的话真的无敌 那样的话真的值得升级 16pm这代还是觉得那么小的运存配不上这么强大的芯片
只能說，專業 ，專業 ，專業！
為什麼只有有人說別人好，就會有人愛酸言酸語，硬要貶低別人，真討厭這種留言。
@@电玩城大玩家反了
世間人千千萬萬 總有那麽些人
@@hhyckwcc 反不反 你们自己清楚 大家不瞎
@@电玩城大玩家nova11se 在手，盤子有我😗
@@KH92662 人家喜欢用鸿蒙，买nova有什么错。盘子？买LV的是盘子么？Made in Italy(China)的Hermes呢？
等你好久啦
刚下班，赶上了😂
太晚下班了吧
什么地方啊，我这里都半夜4.了诶
夜班就這時間啊 正常我也是5點才下班
@@kohjianzher7675 互联网赶项目，但是我们上班也晚😂
@@januschen5011 偶尔偶尔，上班也晚，还是能睡6个小时的😂
Will we see lunar lake review at September 24 or later . İ am looking forward to your testing and opinions .
想看華為三折機評測
没什么好评测的 只能说够用。性能和16pro差太远
華為處理器垃圾級 7奈米跟3奈米 差五年技術 沒辦法比
如果没被限制EUV，估计也到3nm了，现在只能等国内光刻机迭代了
以前测菊花，直接被禁言
@@王安澜-m1u 三星沒被限制 還是採購高通台積電晶片 不要找借口 輸就要承認輸
Why you guys not making any videos to English channels😢. i really miss them, i can't watch subtitles and data's you provide at the same time😢
不知道为什么，英文频道很久没更新了😂
終於出來了 什麼山西達人 貧果坑爹都不想看 只想看專業講解
看到能耗表現，我也大驚，我以為手機芯片很難再進步了。期待影像評測趕快商品，單肉眼比圖比較難有系統看出差異。
去年買15元的直接哭死～
16才是完全體！！
未來的釘子戶
還好忍住沒買15
早買早享受嘛～
我先買i16來幫你測原神最準。iphone 15 plus,須彌城最低5fps.i16我覺得根本贏不了s24.車內30度測試才準。
要洗幾篇 在車內玩手遊玩到腦子壞掉?
内存是硬伤，续航，性能都没问题，苹果下一代或者通过下下代增加内存，系统更新，让iphone 16 pro变得鸡肋。但是下一代以及下下代的续航或者温控肯定是不好的😂
等17那不是等於究極體?
反正每年都擠牙膏追不追根本沒差
绝区零这个帧率是跑图还是战斗呀？有点好奇，因为我现在A15跑图卡没什么，战斗卡要了命
哈哈哈,支持,不过今年还敢作 某遥遥领先吗
這代16 有 iPhone 13 這代的感覺
蘋果終於再把重心放 iPhone 了
The only improvement is battery life, geekbench 6 favor SME, SPEC 2017 show it still overclock from A14 for big core
@@INTJ791 不敢相信
所以從A14 之後，真的都沒進步？
@@Walk_0210能耗跟屎一樣
@@Walk_0210spec 2017 score divided by watt consumption
13我不觉得很完美，在距离最近的一代，我觉得11才是完美的
期待下個月8gen4大戰A18
應該還是一如既往CPU比apple差特別是單核
GPU還是比apple強
然而8g4和9400要出了，单核还是苹果最后的遮羞布
那也比华为不给测试强太多了
But the decoding of these Chipsets with cortex is terrible, the X4 which is the last top-of-the-line ARM has 6-width decoding and now Apple already has a CPU with 10-width decoding, there is no competitor at the height for Apple at this time, even because the A18 is based on the M4, so until something comes out in the Android world that equates to this it will take time, and I don’t see the Oryon CPU doing miracles.
我很好奇，apple會透過ios更新相機軟體的調教，使前幾代的手機拍照性能下降嗎？凸顯新一代的iphone拍照更好？目前都沒看過這樣的測試
還是我極客灣強啊~ ~ ~ ~
這期真的好看
而且還提到了鋭化有改善只能說你們真的太懂我們想看什麼🤣🤣
怎么不摆上9300+对比？
明明有你平行時空回來？
@@80z_noize 我看单核对比时评论的！多核才出现9300+
單核跟S8Gen3一樣是用cortex X4
兩者差不多 沒有必要再測一次吧
這影片的重點是A18 不是9300+
@@bmntvht 我当然知道主角是A18/A18pro，他们家的cpu天梯图在A18没出来时9300是派最前的！我想看看一起对比对比而已
蝦仁豬心呀你這
10分09的配图，最大限度发挥cpu和多核协力的区别是什么，讲错了吗？还是多核协力是有gpu参与？
This is the English comment you are finding bro vote for English review on other channel
👇
there are english subtitles, you can use that. let's not forget there are more native chinese speakers in this world than english speakers, so...
English subtitle exist
Subbed > dubbed
@@INTJ791 please write in Chinese translator of yt still exists
@@kekoraaaa oh 👍 okay
果然是全球最好的芯片，希望苹果能长期保持这个优势
8 gen 4 next month
Performance per watt more important than IPC, based on spec 2017, performance per watt still the same means it basically overclock from A15 using advantage of tsmc 3nm
No, the change to 10 width Decoding gave an advantage to A18 Pro, and there is nothing in the Android world with these features, at this very moment the Cortex X4 which is the best of the ARM Architecture has 6 width decoding, the curious thing is that it is below the 2021 A14 Bionic with 8 width decoding, Apple’s P-colors are extremely powerful leaving any solution in the Android world in the Slipper, in fact since the A13 Bionic this has been happening.
@@SergioWolf843X4 have 10 width decoding, X3 6 width decoding
@@INTJ791 Yes, in scalability you could use 10 width Encoding but no company has adopted this, and with the depth tests they revealed that Cortex X4 in both 8gen3 and Dimensity are using 6/8 decodings, and in reality no one knows if Android has the ability to decode so many instructions, what happens is that Apple updates IOS to the average that their Silicon are receiving Update.