The Most Underrated Printer (and it’s CHEAP!)

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  • @demidermak713
    @demidermak713 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I shall fight you. Nacho was not the best boy. He was the bestest boy

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dang. You got me. I submit to your comment and pin!

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Totally agree! What has impressed me most with the Plus4 is the dimensional accuracy, high precision, and lack of VFA. I was able to do print in place bearings all the way down to 0.02mm clearance and have them come off the build plate not fused. I even did 0.01mm and with a little work breaking apart they spun.
    Also seriously on the VFA. Find a print with a lot of flat facets like a low poly animal and print it from the same filament on the Plus4 and any Bambu and compare the artifacts. The Plus4 has possibly the least I have seen from any stock printer. Maybe some Prusamachines and the Bambu Lab A1 and A1 Mini come close.
    This machine had teething issues, but it is seriously solid and nothing on the market matches the capability for the money. It handles any consumer filament you throw at it and people on the Disk-chord have demonstrated that many times over. Most of the small issues it had at launch are well ironed out.
    The funniest part about people thinking it is a Bambu Lab clone or that Qidi was a cheap low quality brand is that Qidi was making enclosed, core XY, full metal frame, corner supported bed, high temperature printers for years before Bambu Lab existed. Large size and heated chamber not new for them either.
    Nice overview! That Halo map print is super impressive. I'm hoping the Max4 or whatever it's called will be near perfect at launch. I hope in the next video you will dig in deep on the quality as the layer stacking and clean surfaces from this printer are fantastic.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Excellent comment here. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I’m stoked about this machine and look forward to diving a little deeper in the next video

  • @Botanical4038
    @Botanical4038 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    LET'S GOOOO! Thank you for doing this!

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Happy you liked it

  • @23lkjdfjsdlfj
    @23lkjdfjsdlfj วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm astounded by the print quality, reliability and consistency of my Qidi plus 4.

  • @deechvogt1589
    @deechvogt1589 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats on getting your first sample review printer a truly big milestone for your channel. You did an excellent job on this review and I loved your unboxing and review model selection. One of my co-workers got the Qidi Plus4 and loves it. I can't see what you do with it next.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate the kind words and am so happy to have you along for the ride!

  • @benjaminmiddaugh2729
    @benjaminmiddaugh2729 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for this. I'm seriously considering a Qidi printer as a companion to my A1, and you've shown stuff I hadn't yet seen about these so far.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s great! I’m hoping more people can see the value because I was surprised

  • @renaudvantyghem6540
    @renaudvantyghem6540 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm happy with the QIDI printers. I have the max 3 and the Q1 pro. Customer service is great but they need to have better instructions for replacement parts, upgrades and repairs.
    They tend to use a lot of videos not clearly showing or explaining things. I have reminded them we are not all engineers we just want to print. Lol. Explain to them if you run into this and customer service will email you easy to follow instructions. They always get back to you and have a great client tracking system for issues. Hope this helps anyone considering. Cheers!

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is good to hear because often the opposite seems to be true

  • @monkeywrench1951
    @monkeywrench1951 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’d be nice to see how it performs with large sized engineering prints with ASA or even PPS-CF. Also, how well it isolates VOCs and particles from the outside.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I will be looking into ASA and ABS performance as well as some nylon stuff for the next one at least. I would like to find a way to compare filtration across different machines as well

  • @UNgineering
    @UNgineering วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the dummy-proofing! When I unboxed my x1c, i forgot to unscrew one screw and it made a horrendous sound when I turned the machine on.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m here for it as well. I once forgot to take the tip tie off of the gantry for one of my A1 minis and it made a similarly awful sound at startup

  • @corysmith2570
    @corysmith2570 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    New to 3d printing and waiting on my first a Bambu Labs PS1, but already thinking of my future and been looking for a larger format bed. Your video has put this one on my list for the future.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to hear it. I am hoping Bambu comes out with their large format machine sooner than later but this has been a good runner for the in between

    • @geoffreyhowells7290
      @geoffreyhowells7290 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Excellent way to look at it.

  • @DavidHarriman-u6r
    @DavidHarriman-u6r วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you do buy this machine make sure you check for the new chamber heater relay. I just bought one from Qidi and got one with the old board and had to email them and request the new board.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes good point. Check out the @ModBotArmy video in the description for specifics. Be careful friends

    • @Kimberlie1
      @Kimberlie1 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Plus4 in the US official store is already equipped with the latest SSR. Please don't worry.

  • @ooDemiurgus
    @ooDemiurgus วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I've got 6 of these printers, and they have been a nightmare. After working out the bugs, like, ya know, the thing melting and almost catching fire.. Yeah, now they work good. I was actually the one who got Qidi to issue a recall on these machines. They tried to sweep it under the rug. Not having it. Anyway, don't turn into a shill for a Chinese company that does not give a shit if your house burns down. Their behavior early on over this issue was absolutely reprehensible. I have ripped apart these printers to fix the SSR overheating, the grub screws falling out of the toolhead, the lower bearing on the toolhead coming loose, the loud and inadequate motherboard fan, and the wifi dongle. Honorable mentions to the huge spaghetti failures that ruined part cooling fans and the fact they just freeze up sometimes. I put hundreds more into my machines but don't fret, Qidi offered me $50 for my days of labor. They make dangerous products, they send you parts to fix their new machine and everyone cheers how great they are. FML. After spending $5k I feel... Stuck with them. I'm not even liking this video and it's not even your fault, sorry. Unlike. Also, you're gonna want to print the larger spool holder. The file is on the machine. I had a spool fall off on a print when I had the glass top off. The larger spool holder slips over the smaller one and locks on. Try out PCTG filament. "Polycyclohexylenedimethylene Terephthalate Glycol" Yeah, you like that?

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow! Lots going on there. It sucks that you’ve had the worst experience with these suckers. I can only speak to my experience of course but this is information that everyone needs access to as well so I appreciate you sharing your experience. It’s important to paint the whole picture by drawing from one another like this

    • @urban1337
      @urban1337 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oof

  • @WyomingRider
    @WyomingRider วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like a great printer! Thanks for excellent video!

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for hanging around friend!

  • @KABAR1943
    @KABAR1943 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alright, you got my sub with the Beartooth shirt

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is all I want from people. Proper recognition for great music

  • @joey120373
    @joey120373 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Glad You are having a great experience with the Plus4, and I hope it continues to be a solid work horse for you. I have gotten some good prints off of mine, however after a few moths of use, I cannot recommend this printer. It has quite a few hidden, and not so hidden flaws. Loose bearings, a snag sensor that works, most of the time, but seems to really like to NOT work near the end of every other 20+ hour print. The filament sensor is off by default, and resets itself to "off" for some reason, and at the worst possible times. The Z offset, why oh dear why cant they get that right, It doesn't hold the same offset. I have learned that i need to increase the Z depending on build plate temp, that at least makes sense. And heat soaking the plate, that makes sense as well and seems to help keep it more consistent. What doesn't make sense it that for some reason, every once in a while, the Z offset is just all of a sudden all wrong. This requires verifying that the nozzle and plate are clean, nothing came loose, and finally running more test prints to get the "new" Z offset it likes. Then the latest issue, the Z offset just quit working all together, As in, it mashed the print down so hard, I had to use acetone to get the ASA off without ruining the bed. No big deal, just increase the offset by .05, then .1, then .15 then .2, then .4!!, and all ended the same way, first layer mashed down so hard i had to use acetone, then alcohol, then a new layer of glue/release agent. It has sat still for a week now after that last issue, I gave up on it, the urge to smash it to bits with a sledge hammer is still at the top of my list for the next reasonable thing to try to get it to print again. So i am waiting for that urge to recede a bit before i walk back to the thing and try to sort out whats wrong with it, this time. Seems there are many people having a great time with this printer, and I have gotten some decent prints off the thing. But for me, every print I do now brings anxiety over how it will fail next and how much more expensive filament I may have to throw away. I don't trust it at all with larger or multi part prints, I've thrown away hundereds of dollars worth of the really good, well dried name brand CF filaments because every time i think i've got it printing reliably, i start a nice long print of parts I need, it fails. And, so far, Qidi customer service has been quick to send a follow up email, but useless when it comes to sending out replacement parts, or offering anything in the way of tangible help. This printer is only 3 months old.
    I'm writing this as a warning to new buyers who, like i did, saw a few glowing you tube reviews like this one and jumped on the band wagon before seeking out any negative reviews. I have since found many others who, like me, are regretting ever hearing of the PLUS4. Im sure it can be a good printer, but I urge anyone thinking of spending this kind of money to look at all the reviews, positive and negative for this, as well as the handfull of other very similar printers in this price range.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yikes! Thanks for sharing the experience for everyone else to draw from. I’m sorry you’re dealing with that and hope Qidi can get it sorted out but we do hear about these kinds of things happening. At any rate, I appreciate the feedback here so everyone can make an informed decision!

  • @typeXJuggernaut
    @typeXJuggernaut 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I ordered the plus 4 was wondering how tall is the machine with the spool on the mount

  • @NWGR
    @NWGR 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks for the review. Looking forward to your video seeing how it performs with the more technical filaments. I'm happy with my four A1s, but want a printer I can dedicate to things like nylon, polycarbonate and ASA. The new bambu coming out will likely be a contender but I'd rather not have to resort to selling feet pics online to afford one soooooo.....

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s for sure! It’s gonna be a painful purchase no doubt but having this one as an option is super cool! Thanks for hanging around

  • @Wasagii
    @Wasagii วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool and interesting

  • @hrdcpy
    @hrdcpy วันที่ผ่านมา

    The overhangs are impressive on the Hang em High map print. It would have been nice to see it printed in a filament with more texture and perhaps showing how the printer is able to pause, swap filament and purge. (I'm somewhat averse to shiny silk.)
    Lastly, the redundancy of instructions from the booklet, on-screen and rear panel are appreciated. ✌️

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I totally get the apprehension with silks. They show every single little defect! Thats a nice thing about the matte filaments for sure. Covering all of my secret mistakes

  • @MattWeber
    @MattWeber 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I still struggle to see why enclosed 3d printers insisted on using tempered glass panels anywhere. Its only benefit is scratch resistance, mean its also a big heatsink vs using acrylic panels and results in longer time for chambers to normalize temperature for when you want it heated, and a breakable item that is 100% unneeded to be made of glass.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. The glass feels “premium” and quality and all of that garbage but really, if the door was plastic I would feel better about it. I’m always worried I am going to over extend the door opening and shatter it or something

  • @ThisisDD
    @ThisisDD วันที่ผ่านมา

    You guys check out the Flashforge Adventure 5M, or 5X when it releases. I think you'd also be very surprised with it, and it's often less than $250

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well I reached out to them to see if we could work something out so here’s to hoping. My first printer was a Flashforge so it would be cool to jump back in years later to see how far they’ve come

  • @tonyfweb
    @tonyfweb วันที่ผ่านมา

    Website says 370 for the hotend... 🤔 Also says that it's compatible with the QIDI box for multi color. I have no need for it, but I kinda want it. Great review! Thanks

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      “I have no need for it but I kinda want it” is the very grave that I will ultimately rest in if I had to guess. I completely understand that sentiment

  • @MattWeber
    @MattWeber 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Question is.. is this one with the fire hazard overheating board fixed or not? That is an important point to remember or we easily start allowing huge safety issues to become allowable by manufacturers, and go back to a race to the bottom by simply omitting safety with cheap hardware. Being hidden behind a panel, you don't know the board is a problem until suddenly its on fire.

    • @Kimberlie1
      @Kimberlie1 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Plus4 in the US official store is already equipped with the latest SSR. No fire risk.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This was a bad deal for sure. As I understand it, they’ve gotten it sorted out and units no longer ship with that board but I’ll double check mine and update in the next video since I’ll be using that chamber heater extensively

  • @thefriendlessgamer8552
    @thefriendlessgamer8552 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Qidi plus 4 is one I wouldn't mind getting either.

  • @DanielAKA
    @DanielAKA 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So I'm gathering that the big strength of this is for specially engineering filaments rather than your standard pla, TPU, nylon, etc.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is a huge selling point for sure. The fact that this machine is fully enclosed and can print that hot with hardened components means it’s totally ready for the high demand engineering stuff. But even with just printing PLA and similar, I’m impressed with the value

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correct, but it handles all of those filaments fine. Siraya Tech 85A TPU prints work perfectly at high flow rates on mine. I just have to feed direct into the extruder rather than through the reverse Bowden.

  • @calilifestyle
    @calilifestyle วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would get one, but since i have q1 pro I'll just wait for their next IDEX

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      IDEX would be sick!

  • @corysmith2570
    @corysmith2570 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Camera? compared P1S, is my biggest negative in my opinion on the P1S - Bambu has not figured out they need to support mods and upgrading, if they had a supported camera upgrade would have already bought one.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      You’ve got that right. That camera is worthless

  • @russv3503
    @russv3503 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    dont forget to take off the little plastic off the camera inside 😁

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I’m sure I didn’t forget…. I never forget things like that…. *removes plastic from lens finally*
      Thanks for the comment lol

  • @elephaux5671
    @elephaux5671 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fuck yeah beartooth

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      You legend! Good looking out

    • @WindedWalruss93
      @WindedWalruss93 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Beartooth dude. Love caleb shomo. Been following him since Attack Attack! So amazing

  • @refard5
    @refard5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    well I'm sold, now I just need money

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh how I can relate to this sentiment. Too much cool stuff but the funds are limited

    • @refard5
      @refard5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KeoPrints indeed, so much cool stuff, so little time

  • @geoffreyhowells7290
    @geoffreyhowells7290 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    App, slicer, presets, inexpensive spare parts, stellar customer service... These things matter to me more than print volume and speed. Please make another video after logging 2000+ hours.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      These are good points! Perhaps a 6 month review will be in order

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา

      Qidi is known for having close to if not the best customer service in the consumer 3D printing space. They had a rough launch with this one, but it's ironed out now. They have sent out more free replacement parts with no questions asked than any company I've ever seen. Parts are available at good prices. You can use Qidi Studio which is a fork of Bambu Studio or just use Orca Slicer. Their presets are solid.

  • @mark6302
    @mark6302 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:28
    lol

    • @WindedWalruss93
      @WindedWalruss93 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dude probably thought it was banana flavored

  • @JustinNewton1117
    @JustinNewton1117 วันที่ผ่านมา

    must prop lid open for petg.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fair point. I left the top glass off for the PLA and PETG prints

  • @cylonmode
    @cylonmode วันที่ผ่านมา

    $800 is not cheap...

    • @WindedWalruss93
      @WindedWalruss93 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For what you get, yes it is.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      $800 is absolutely not cheap. But if you are looking for a machine that prints hot with hardened components, you can look at the X1C for $1200 or try this out for $800. Except this prints hotter and has a larger build volume. Its just a good value if it suits your needs!

  • @JMan-m6q
    @JMan-m6q 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I'll try to remain unbiased..." Yea, that would be a good thing.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gotta preface. It was free so that’s a bias straight off the bat. Luckily the thing was good. Otherwise this video would have gone a completely different way..

    • @WindedWalruss93
      @WindedWalruss93 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea

  • @TheOne10525
    @TheOne10525 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Old, has problems and prints are not that good!

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The old ones have issues? Or this one has issues?

  • @OsoGrande5150AZ
    @OsoGrande5150AZ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only $800?

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      X1C performance for P1S pricing but with a bigger build volume

    • @scb2scb2
      @scb2scb2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KeoPrints Not want to argue but in europe thats the price with the AMS about 810 euro vs 849 euro. Still i do agree given its release date its a good price but for many they do need to also proof/ship a ams like device.

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s true. This can’t be measured by the promise of multicolor capabilities later down the line. As it stands right now, I am impressed with the specs for the price even without multicolor

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KeoPrints If you think about it, it's more akin to the X1E, just without the auto tuning.

    • @scb2scb2
      @scb2scb2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @KeoPrints Yeah well what is great is that finally brands are catching up to bambulab but its been a few years now since the basic xy release they did. It will great to see the push this gives to them to make a better one and get a real innovation battle going and up the avg level of printing so finally what we print can become the thing not how we print.

  • @saliston
    @saliston วันที่ผ่านมา

    in whose world is 800 cheap

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา

      For the specs it’s cheap. This is X1C specs with a bigger build volume for hundreds less. Objectively 800 dollars is a lot of money. Especially when I don’t have any money…

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's all relative. Size, features, quality. It's not cheap compared to an A1 Mini, but it is far more capable. What do you need from your printer?

    • @WindedWalruss93
      @WindedWalruss93 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't buy 8 dollar coffees and it's pretty easy

  • @Archeious
    @Archeious วันที่ผ่านมา

    Might want to start your videos differently. Your opening screams sellout (regardless of whether you did or not).

    • @KeoPrints
      @KeoPrints  วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s a tough balance. I’ve been accused of doing the clickbait thing so I felt like transparency right on the front end might be good. Always working on improving something

    • @hrdcpy
      @hrdcpy วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Achievement unlocked. Receiving your first free review product must feel like validation for content creators. This is the first video I've watched from this channel and don't knock them for introducing it this way. It also tips me off that the rest of their video catalog is about printers they've bought and likely have an unbiased opinion. ✌️

    • @erich1159
      @erich1159 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What about the negatives. Test the heated chamber and the screws coming loose on the print head. I really want to buy this machine but I need to know that Qidi has really fixed the issues not just put a band aid on it. I wish somebody would really put it through it’s paces with the high temps.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would you rather he not disclose the relationship? Can never make everyone happy.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage วันที่ผ่านมา

      @erich1159 These were issues from when the printer first launch. They are well ironed out now. Nobody has had a loose tool head in quite some time that I know of and the heated chamber issue is resolved. There are many people with hundreds and thousands of hours on the Plus4 already.