It’s crazy how people with social anxiety had to spend ages unlearning the fear that “everyone’s looking at you to make fun of you” only for that to become a very real possibility
fr I have PTSD and was starting to believe people like the ones that have hurt me are rare because I worked through my sht. But they aren't, they're "normal" and increasingly common. The truth is that my anxiety wasn't wrong in this jn regards to basic human decency. How tf am I supposed to not be agoraphobic and/or paranoid when, factually speaking, the threats aren't rare??
@@sourgreendolly7685 FUCKING LITERALLY RIGHT???? I spent years being made fun of and pathologized and treated like a delusional crazy person, only for people like this to not only be extremely common, not only act like this in broad daylight all the time, but for people to literally not care about it and not think it's all that weird. How are we supposed to "heal" when the traumatizing situation we experienced becomes the society-wide default expected norm?
I looked up photography laws in Japan, and it’s legal so long as it isn’t derogatory to the subjects. Literally the bar was in hell and that person still tripped on it
i had a friend in highschool who got a non-consenting video of her taken while she was walking to the mall. this stranger who took the video wanted to post about street fashion and i guess that person liked what she was wearing. it went kind of viral locally and she had to move away because she was trying to hide from a scary stalker ex-bf who apparently found out her location based on the background of the video. even if a video was meant to compliment, people should start assuming others may have a safety or security reason for wanting to stay out of the internet's public eye and ask for consent before recording or posting.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414if it happened in the US, there is no laws against it. If it can be seen from public property like a sidewalk it can be photographed. Terrible for the woman regardless.
@@jaqenhghar6244 I feel like this needs to be changed. If you are just a part of a crowd (aka background), being filmed in public ok. But I feel if a video is posted online where a random person (who did not consent) is singled out/focused on, it should not be allowed. And to add: just because it isn't illegal, doesn't make it morally ok.
I really hate this mindset that old people are cute if they’re a couple and sad if they’re alone. They’re just adults who’ve been alive longer than other adults. They’re not inherently cute or sad just because they’re old. My grandma says it’s infantilizing that people treat her like it’s so amazing that she can do things other adults also do, just because she’s old. It’s like when people reach a certain age, we start treating them like they’re toddlers.
ong also they were most likely in a fast food restaurant, like who tf would want someone else to watch them shove greasy food down their throat?? people just cant leave other ppl be.
I feel this. My grandma is 90, and while she _is_ showing mild signs of dementia, she can still walk, drive(she's letting it expire this year) socialize, etc. she looks like she's 70. Covid didn't do as much to her as it did us lol I also have relatives on the opposite side who _are_ depressed, physically struggling, living in assisted, but they're still chill. It's weird to just automatically assume shit like that lol
It’s so weird right!! I live in a small town and had some relatives over around Father’s Day, my relatives saw an elderly man outside of our window standing alone , minding his business and they started staring and awwing at him! I tried to tell them “he’s just a guy, he’s not sad just because he’s alone” but they insisted on perceiving this man as sad and lonely. I hate the societal mentality that we always have to be with someone 24/7 or else we’re sad lonely hermits
So much this! My dad is turning 81 in a couple of month, he loves to travel all over the world, recently spend a couple month in South America (we're from Europe) and he often does it on his own. It's his life, he enjoys every part of it, and if you call him 'cute' or 'grandpa', he'll put you in your place pretty dang fast.
The worst part is that the Japan photography laws are there so creepy men don’t take pictures of girls’ privates. But she’s so self absorbed she doesn’t get it.
@@Aaditri44Get this then: Two stories from Tokyo, where I lived for a few years. A Canadian acquaintance of mine got groped in public by a creepy old man and when she went to the police station to report this, they just laughed at her and said “that’s something you have to get used to when you live in Japan”. Another Swedish friend got raped and abused by her Japanese boyfriend but the police didn’t believe her story at all, because of course they rather believe the Japanese man.
Same reason their Iphone camera noises are always on by default and can't be turned off. People kept doing upskirts, to the point that it became a genuine problem
That Tokyo Big Bang Theory photographer/commentator getting deported for breaking the law to gain social media clout is the best example of karma I have ever seen.
There was a great story about this person who was a "digital nomad" in Bali, working there and living in luxury while getting paid from the US, paying taxes there and flexing on the amazing lifestyle and literally selling information about how you can do it too. It caused OUTRAGE locally and they got deported. It was great.
Regardless of whether they have autism or not they don't need to explain why they don't wanna be touched by strangers. For any reason. It's even more valid considering they are autistic but literally no one has the right to touch someone else without consent.
Exactly. The only reason I can think of where you could go beyond consent is if some kind of accident was about to happen, like they hadn't noticed a vehicle when crossing a road, and a stranger pulled them out of harm's way.
Agreed. Disclaimer: I know you aren’t generalizing people with autism but I have something to add to what you said ^ Although it’s commonly assumed that people with autism don’t like being touched, I personally don’t mind it at all as an autistic person, and it’s important to note that everyone with autism is different in terms of preferences. The thing Kurtis mentioned was that they also had contamination OCD. OCD has a lot to do with phobias, and when these phobias confront people with OCD it’s essentially a gateway for anxiety and engaging in obsessive and compulsive behaviors to deal with it. It’s very distressing and difficult, and it makes it more difficult when things which people are typically ok with are something that other people fear and it’s not something that people understand. Also, the fact he left that in the video….. why would you feel comfortable filming strangers crying, knowing you caused it, and leaving it in for them to be criticized by your followers?
@@Snaggle-ToothedDog exactly. That's like even worse. A complete lack of any empathy. Bc not only did they leave it in they specifically pointed it out for people to criticize and mock.
what really annoys me is whenever someone will bring up that you shouldnt film strangers in public, hundreds of losers will be climbing out of the woodwork defending this and saying shit like "its legal to film in public, dont go out in public if you dont like it" which is an insane thing to say. guess i'll be a hermit then since people cant be bothered to learn basic manners
"ummmm if you dont wanna be filmed in public, literally stop going to a job and starve to death and die in isolation forever god 🤪 it's that easy" unhinged. fucking unhinged. people saying this can't be fuckign real. you can't have real neurons and think this way. i refuse to believe it. actual worm brained behavior.
Same energy as all those people like "Hey if you don't like one specific law you can leave the country." Like bro we don't have to define our personal morals based on the law; it's not illegal to just be rude and unpleasant but that doesn't mean we should do it.
THIS!! I saw a video of two girls sharing an umbrella and I mentioned how weird it was to film them and people kept saying "IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!" "They're in public, you can't expect privacy in public" "It's not like the person recorded them naked, why are you making a big deal out of it" And I'm just like??
The way this shit gets on my nerves so much. Like especially if you work at public places like me. It’s against our rules to film at the gym i work at. These people will scold you for walking in their shot and tell you to go to a different gym or exercise at home like dude no you go somewhere else youre breaking the rules
i’m a film student and literally half of my nonfiction film class is about documentary ethics and how fucked up it is to film people without their consent and it’s SO wild to see how those ethics go out the window when you’re filming on a phone instead of a camera
@@Dolphinboi lol yes, i meant without. and yeah there’s a LOT of documentaries that do/have, but the point is that the practice is fundamentally unethical regardless of whether or not it’s been done before.
Yes, but documentary film making forces you to get consent often times because of the entities that you’re representing in the documentary and the entities that you will be selling the rights to the documentary to, not because it unethical to film in public, at least not in America.
@@cyan1721 for corporate-backed film maybe, but for independent/student doc, no. also the reasons those conversations are being had in a film school environment are solely because of ethics. what we as students make for that class won’t be distributed/released, but we will be held to certain ethical standards.
Filming random people in public is incredibly dangerous. From personal experience, I’ve known people who have gone through great pains to delete their digital footprint due to stalking behavior, and have all that work be undone because someone decided to film them or someone near them and post it to a public platform. It led to my friend having to move to a different city and uproot their whole lives because of one idiot young boychild who wanted a chance at going viral.
That's awful. 😔 It's dangerous in another way too. Not every person will take kindly to being filmed and if they noticed it someone could potentially get violent and not care that the camera's still rolling. It's happened with some prank influencers who have had guns pulled on em. Crazy times.
This! my childhood friend had to move 4 hours away, because she and her mom was under witness protection and some stupid lady decided to take a photo of the kids playing AT SCHOOL. And post it PUBLICLY.
You probably shouldn't post about how far away your "friend" moved away is if they're in witness protection. A 4 hour drive narrows it down quite a bit. Be careful.@@dracofaun1871
@@jj-gk6rjI remember some of those stupid clown pranks almost ended poorly because they would rush someone during the height of the clown thing at night and be surprised when instead of running away they pulled a gun
Before clarifying that the girl who cried in the video was neurodivergent my first assumption was just - what if she was just having a really bad day? Sometimes when you’re stressed it doesn’t take much to push you over the edge. Maybe she was out with her friends telling them about a terrible break up, and then a stranger comes up and touches you unexpectedly, I could totally see myself bursting into tears if I was already feeling shitty that day. If someone reacts in a way that seems over the top to something you did, it may not be a reaction to to you specifically. It could just be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
@@hello_world2767probably but just ignored it. funny that people try to be nice like that but zero out the niceness by disrespecting peoples identities.
@@maddyocean5948 orrrr maybe it was genuinely a mistake? There are times when people unintentionally assume the gender because yk society still kinda forces those gender roles on us. But you correct the person and they use the right pronouns in the future and life goes on. Everyone's happy :P
people who think like that are the same people who would try and "befriend" the quiet kid so they look like a good person, all while being condescending and rude to them
As a full time retail worker, the “npc” brain rot is so real. If you pay attention it becomes extremely clear that people don’t see you as a human being with an inner world and a life outside your post at the store. I’ve even had friends be aghast at finding out retail involved me working on weekends and holidays, as if the people that serve them when they shop on Saturday aren’t really people.
Yeah, it's really sad. :( I think part of the weekend mentality is that a decent portion of the world has their religious services on Saturdays, and when they go to buy something on those days, they don't expect to see people they know, because... 😮 They weren't at services??? (Yes, I'm Christian, no, I don't think this about people) -_-" People have their own life. I don't get why that's so strange to some people...
exactly! Im lucky to have really good customers at my job but when I see all these prank videos that serve to basically fuck with retail workers, I imagine myself in that scenario and it makes me furious. These kinds of people really act like people who work retail/food service/minimum wage jobs simply exist to serve them
That's why I felt so uncomfortable when I first started seeing the npc meme pop up. I was a bit of a strange kid and took my time learning that everyone else's opinions were just as valid as mine and people had their own reasons for liking or disliking things and now it feels as if people are _trying_ to unlearn that on purpose
@@liljatupsudude that's awesome that you bettered yourself like that! Truly, congratulations, most people aren't self aware enough to notice much less change anything.
Thinking of other human beings as NPCs, or seeing strangers as not real people are signs of a sociopath. The only fake “people” are these ones. If you lack human empathy you aren’t a human and I won’t treat you like one. These “people” need to be lined up against the wall, but for the time being just carry a green laser. Shine it directly into the camera lens and it’ll destroy the entire camera. There, now they have no reason to stick around.
The worst part about all of this is that the victims will NEVER get a voice on this. It is inherently one sided. Even if you do find out that a stranger recorded you without consent and that tons of people are mocking you, you will never be able to respond to it. This shit goes completely unchecked and there are barely any consequences for violating the privacy of strangers
@shindrithargriethrat8408 I mean, people aren't really talking about legality. There are plenty of things that aren't technically illegal but are still considered shitty and unkind. Going up to someone in public and shoving a microphone in their face, then asking a series of willfully obtuse questions isn't illegal (at least not everywhere), sure. But it is shit and deserving of criticism. I hate the logic that going outside at all means relinquishing your privacy and that people should be able to film and harass you as they please.
@@portablegoose Well if someone shoves a microphone in your face and won't go away that could potentially be illegal, but merely recording isn't, obviously.
As someone who's way too insecure about her appearance, the idea of someone filming me or taking pictures of me without my consent for thousands of people to see sounds horrible. I would absolutely cry about it
legit if someone does that in your face, hit them with a “you cant be doing !random offensive action!” in the most serious tone it instantly ruins there footage
This is exactly how I feel. Not everyone’s going to be comfortable with being filmed, or better yet don’t film them at all if you have little to no shit who they are?
Truly hilarious how I've been battling my social anxiety for a decade now and ten years ago I'd tell myself "what's the worst thing that could happen if you go out for lunch alone? The whole world isn't watching you." And now like. That irrational fear is rational.
This!!!! I’ve taught my brain to soothe itself by thinking “they have their own lives going on, why would they take pics of you specifically” but now it’s useless and I’ve possibly landed on some teen girls TikTok for having an anxiety attack at a food court.
@@Jhddtukbdd87542many people do not have their own lives. They have an idea of what that is, but all they do is consume. National mainstream celebrities are only a thing because of these people. It disgusts me. Our brain is the most capable of unique expression and they opt to waste it. They'd rather fit in and be no one.
I can't even explain why I still do this. It's not even consistent. Sometimes I have to actually sit in my car and pep talk myself about how I'm not nearly important enough for anyone to notice. That's when I walk into the store with a sock from the laundry falling out of my pant leg.
Exactly. It's even worse because doing something normal can get 10 million views and have thousands of random strangers being mean for literally anything. You wearing crocs outside? Flip flops? Shorts in the winter? Shouldn't have done that, front page of TikTok 20 million views 40k comments.
I hate this idea that people who are alone in public are lonely. I go out all the time by myself and the only thing that makes it awkward is people acting like it’s sad. It’s great doing what you want, when you want, by yourself every on e in a while.
It doesn't make me feel awkard but it pisses me off because its a sign of them being stupid. If they can't figure out that being solitary does not mean "lonely", then they're stupid.
this!!! the NPC thing has just given people a socially acceptable way to further dehumanize the people around them. When I hear someone say "NPC", it's upsetting tbh
It's just an alternative way to say "I am the one that matters and everyone other than me and the people I know are simple, one dimensional beings who exist to fill up space". For me, that's the exact definition of narcissism.
One time when I was 16 (I’m almost 18 now) I was at the mall with my cousin. A MAN came up to me out of nowhere with another MAN filming him. He had a phone in his hand using it as a microphone and asked me if I would date him. I awkwardly said no thanks and tried to walk away from him. This full grown man grabbed my shoulders and pulled me towards him. I am also autistic, but I don’t think even an allistic person would react well to that. My cousin pushed him away and told him to leave me alone. He continued to follow us around the store screaming at me to give him one chance. Eventually he fell to his knees screaming, then got up and walked away. That still haunts me, and I was unable to return to the mall for months afterwards because of how scary all of that was. I had a 40 minute long panic attack in the malls restroom. Please stop messing with people and filming them in public, it has real consequences.
As someone with body dysmorphia and social anxiety this is one of my genuine fears, I would never film someone without their permission unless I need footage of a crime or something
I have BDD too and this is the exact reason why I opted for online school rather than in person education. Who knows when I could randomly pop up in someone's video and have them mock me for my appearance
I know how you feel with body dysmorphia. It also terrifies me knowing that I could end up in a video seen by many, with them easily tearing me apart for their amusement. I don't know how I could ever recover from that. It's disgusting how so many internet users forget empathy. I understand how hard it is to live with body dysmorphia-I wish you nothing but the best
i also have really bad social anxiety and being filmed in public is literally like my worst fear😭😭 i swear someone will pull out their phone and even if theres a slight chance they could be filming me, like the phones kind of facing my direction, i’ll panic and look away. absolutely hate how normalized this has become mostly because of dumb people on tiktok
The people who would do that never supported Mental Health in the first place, until it comes to a time when someone made them feel sad and they made a series of 5 tiktoks about it.
Just like the "THAT motherf--ker is NOT real" plane situation. People made fun of here and bullied her online relentlessly when she probably already was traumatized from that situation.
I am really grateful that it’s a punishable in Europe, as everyone has the right to privacy and that even in public. Filming strangers is weird enough but posting children is so weird and dangerous
Yeah I completely agree children should never be allowed to be filmed! I don't even think their parents should be allowed to post photos and videos of their children. But I do see the downsides to both sides of the issue. Because in America you are allowed to be filmed in public because you are in public and there is no expectation of privacy. But you cannot be filmed in the privacy of your own home because there is an expectation of privacy. And in Europe how will you know if politicians are doing something terrible or if your police are doing something terrible? Or what if your neighbor is harassing someone. It does keep people accountable knowing that IF they choose to behave badly in public or choose to do something illegal or corrupt it will be filmed. The question is which is worth more? Which is more valuable? Protecting people's privacy even when public or keeping people accountable for their actions? And I think it depends on who you are the answer to that question. I have my own personal opinions but I don't know if there is a right answer to that question. Aside from filming children. That should be illegal if you're in public and it should be illegal for the parents to post it publicly and I think everyone can agree on that.
@@ItMeJayBI’d have to assume no unless it’s surveillance video on private property. Otherwise you’d have to commit a crime to avoid becoming a victim of a crime
@@cosmosisrosekind of reminds me of that thing people say. “I never liked _______, but now I’m sad because they are gone.” or “I hated him but he didn’t deserve to go” Like dude we get it, you’re a such a good person for feeling empathy 🙄. Idk if I’m overreacting but that’s just kind of how it feels to me lmao.
Yes. And as someone who prefers solitude and is anti-social, I get a lotttt of people everyday at work asking if I’m okay or people trying to strike up a conversation out of awkwardness or pity. Like no, I’m not depressed or sad or having a rough time. No I’m not tired. I actually quite enjoy my life and this is the happiest I’ve ever been. But the thought that someone can be genuinely happy and still prefer solitude/not be smiley all the time is perplexing to everyone. They don’t even believe me when I say I’m fine or okay. “Well I’m here for you, just to let you know”. This shit has been happening my whole life. Leave me alone.
Not only is it really poor etiquette to film other people without their consent, it can be super super dangerous too. Their faces being put on the internet could literally be a death sentence for them. Please stop filming strangers. Sincerely, someone who has lived with a domestic abuse survivor whose ex was a very dangerous person.
FR I ALWAYS THINK WHAT IF SOMEONE ESCAPED AN ABUSIVE SITUATION AND THEN BAM YOUR FACE IS PUT ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT , fucking awful. Good job for getting out of there tho!❤
as someone with a service dog, I get filmed - without my consent- almost every day. people often get **mad** at me when I ask them to stop. It’s so fucking unhinged.
im so sorry about that. it disgusts me how people love to record us people with disablities/mental disabilities/disorders etc the most. its so disgusting and it fuels my paranoia and agoraphobia. i hope one day itll at least die down if not completely end for good..
It's so stupid. I've also been photographed without consent. These kinds of people just expect you to go along with everything they want, so you need to crack down hard and threaten to sue them if necessary.
@@tomatochemist got plenty of american frriends, even enjoyed living their for a while haha, but for every 1 normal american there seems to be 2 crazies posting online 🤣 I was lucky to never have a face to face with one of the crazies 🤣
As someone with autism and a lot of anxiety issues, it was infuriating to see people call the person who was crying “racist” for not high fiving the guy. If you have a brain at all you can tell they move and responds like that because of anxiety. Nothing to do with him specifically, it’s pretty clear it’s their own personal stuff. It was heartbreaking hearing the sister have to explain all these medical diagnoses to the world. I felt so terrible for them. 😢
Me too, I had been getting more comfortable going into public spaces but that video and the aftermath genuinely had a lasting impact on my confidence :/
ikr i have contamination ocd and i immediately recognized the way they reacted to someone touching them it’s fucking awful that they were filmed because i know i would feel embarrassed even though it’s out of my control
I had a waiter come up behind me, put his hand on my shoulder and ask how my food was directly in my ear and I legitimately screamed, because I have PTSD. I was so embarrassed, everyone was staring at me, I just needed to get out of there before I had a panic attack. The waiter felt bad but like DON'T TOUCH PEOPLE, especially from behind! It seems innocuous to people who are lucky enough to not have that type of trauma, but when did we start thinking this was ok? Kids have been taught forever, "keep your hands to yourself" but these social lessons seem to disappear when those kids grow up.
Yeah her physical recoil into the group reminded me of how I acted when I was recovering from agoraphobia. It can diminish your sense of control in a situation when you have anxiety, which makes shit worse. Love how people are so supportive of mental health until people show symptoms
as an autistic person & victim of SA (who doesn't have OCD) i would have also been incredibly stressed in response to a stranger touching me in public. being in a crowd like that is already stressful enough, but being filmed for a tiktok, singled out, touched, & propositioned by a stranger, i would've had a strong reaction as well. especially knowing that, more often than not, advocating for yourself by declining consent results in mockery. & for the record, if that had happened to me, i probably would have instinctively (not intentionally) whacked their hand away from me. i do *not* accept physical contact from strangers (accidental bumps not included, they are clearly in a crowd) & it results in me being on high alert. respecting other people's boundaries can keep you safe too. i didn't have any questions in regards to their reaction in the video. nobody should've needed an explanation.
YEAH NO FOR REAL. I don't have OCD and haven't gone through SA, i'm just autistic but i have EXTREMELY SEVERE sensory issues because of it. People touching me is a major one, to the point where most of the time i can't even handle my own mother touching me. I flinch away and stuff, as well as i've hit her hands away before because I didn't fully register it as her. If a stranger touched me- ESPECIALLY MY SKIN LIKE IN THE VIDEO- i would end up slapping their hand away. And if they had anything oily or something on their hands it would be 10x worse for me.
Same here. I hate being touched and i was SAd so now i have to be paranoid of random people touching me if i leave my house. I probably wouldnt cry cuz im lower on the spectrum but i would get really upset and stressed and i dont think its okay or fair that i have to be afraid everytime i want to leave my house of someone filming me or violating my personal space. Ugh
Yes oml! - that reminds me of this one tiktok I saw where this white guy was about to get on a train in Japan, and he's complaining about the female-only 😐
@@Altruistic_Hall I think I saw the video you're talking about where he literally goes in the women only car and sure he was only in there for a little bit but is it worth it to make strangers uncomfortable even for a minute? the women only cars in Japan exist so women can avoid creepy men. and the dude had the audacity to say "I wasn't expecting to see segregation like this in Japan" in the description, showing he has no idea why women-only cars exist and no respect for the people who use those cars
EDIT: LMFAOO I commented this before realizing kurtis included this in the video 😂😅 whoops y’all seen the woman on Twitter who had a nuclear meltdown over being deported from Japan because she photographed so many strangers to make fun of on her account?? it was the same lady who photographed a white couple on the train and joked about them being big bang theory fans if y’all at least saw that one
I really feel like this is a big reason why young ppl are so much more hyper self aware and anxiety ridden than previous generations. Social media is intruding on our lives
I’m a dance teacher and I definitely agree! Especially when it comes to my middle school and high school students, I can only imagine how on edge they must be in school 😣
Older generations only had to worry about being judged by their town or neighbourhood, younger generations are worrying about being judged by the whole world. If older people were being judged they could move a couple towns over and start again, younger people have the potential that people across the whole world could be judging them and no matter where they move they might find someone who knows them and judges them.
And honestly this just shows that we shouldn't have those social media pages tho as much as I use TH-cam myself and as long as it's here I'll watch stuff or whatever it's not helping us as a whole at all
I was relentlessly bullied at school, and one of the things my bullies used to do a lot was take pictures and videos of me without me knowing and sending them to each other on BBM and Facebook. That, among other things, left me with PTSD and severe anxiety, and while therapy has thankfully helped me take my life back I still get a jolt everytime I see someone smiling at their phone while using it in front of me. I can't imagine what it must be like for younger people now given how much more widespread social media has become - back in the day I at least knew my pictures wouldn't get out of my bullies' circle, but now anyone could go viral at any point. It really, really sucks.
Back in college (2010) I had this irrational fear of uploading pictures to the internet because I though I would become a meme, like Scumbag Steve or Bad Luck Brian, and people would make fun of me forever. Thankfully Facebook was very limited back then, and going viral took more effort. However, with TikTok, I feel for kids with anxiety today. Being made fun of online (and against your will) is way more prevalent now.
My gym put up signs saying filming is prohibited and you will lose your membership if you’re caught. Last week this chick filmed herself ripping up the signs and making a scene and then was SHOCKED that her membership was being revoked
my brother got filmed in line at McDonalds and we were going to a wedding, so he was in a tux and a lady was filming him and he asked them to stop but they said "sheesh Karen" my brother has anxiety, so he was having a panic attack in the car so this video makes me feel he had justice
They act like they’ve never seen a man get dressed up for McDonald’s 🙄 gotta get fancy for Ronald yk? Anyways sorry that happened to your brother I hope those people got their karma and hope he’s doing well 🫶
Disgusting. What is with Japanese culture sexualizing little girls and women? And I'm not saying it has anything to do with race, it's the culture of Japan itself. Anime in particular seems to obsessively sexualize children and women, and it's normalized seeing them as sex objects in real life. It's truly disturbing, I've never seen anything else like it.
You aren't even allowed to be noisy in trains, so no phone calls there nor public performace inside the train cars I absolutely adore this, my country's National Railway are copying this and made Commuting much MUCH more relaxing even with heavy traffic.
i’m from germany and over here it’s actually illegal to film strangers without their permission due to privacy laws, like it’s a thing that’s taken really seriously so it always baffles me how reckless people are about it in other places
As someone who has worked in retail and has been filmed, it can lead to stalking and can allow stalkers to gain more “fuel”. Please respect people’s privacy.
This is absolutely no joke!! It actually happened to me. I worked as a greeter sometimes for American Eagle and this man would constantly record me (as in i was always in the background) but no one said anything or did anything when i mentioned that i was uncomfortable, because “he’s probably just making a tik tok” it got to the point where when i was walking out to my car, he walked a couple paces behind me. I luckily got in my car safely that day, but after that I always had security escort me out. It’s been years since that, but it went on for about 3 months and all of a sudden I never saw him again. I also have moved states since then so i think i’m safe.
And it just feels super gross, some lady took a photo of me at work once and I hated it but also felt like I “ought” to be nice to customers so I didn’t say anything because I never thought that something like that would happen, now I would be ready to tell that person to stop
@@fleuroseaDude I once took the picture of an inside of a boba shop just to flex the fact that I was getting boba for the first time to my friends, I intentionally shifted the angle of the photo so the worker wouldn't be in it. I don't understand why people do this. Side note, my brother who I love who I also hate though, immediately went "she took a picture of you!!!" to the worker and I will never, never stop being salty at him for it 😭 THAT WAS SO EMBARRASSING
This! I had a guy that came into my work every day and even knew what car I drove. He took pictures of me and even posted a picture he took of me in my uniform from behind. I was 17.
I'm glad Kurtis clarified at the end that filming cops is a different story altogether, but I think it's important to note as well that none of this applies to dangerous or potentially violent situations. Film perpetrators and protect yourself, people
I do think there is a difference between filming people and uploading it tho. Like collect as much evidence as you need but i‘m gonna question your motives if you immediately upload it.
@Sisi-ep3wn I think it's 100% fine to upload videos of people hurting people/ cops hurting people/ etc. That's what gets the word out and something can potentially be done about it.
@@casie6609 If you can't get justice any other way then of course. But in general I do believe that bad people/criminals have a right to privacy as well. At least that's the law in my country. The press is not allowed to show the faces or publish the full names of criminals, as far as I know.(except if they are public figures of course)
“If you aren’t comfortable asking for permission to do it, you aren’t mature enough to do it” is sometimes said about other activities, but truly needs to be applied to filming strangers
@@Industry-insider literally “hey, can I film you for a video I’m making?” Or “hey, do you want to be in this video?” The actual words are simple, not everyone has the guts. All it is is asking for consent.
I remember seeing a video of a girl filming herself at the gym and a guy came and used the treadmill next to her. She told him she was recording, and he immediately apologized and offered to leave. She said he didnt have to and she was telling him to ask if he's ok being filmed. Everyone should do this.
I see a lot fitness influencers starting to do this, but the ones who say no thanks, or leave the frame after being informed, are still left in the video…
As a person with social anxiety as well as just ocd, I've dealt with the intrusive thought that everybody is looking at me practically my entire life It's so difficult to break through this fear when it's very possible for somebody to take something I did or said out of context and make it bad.
About the girl that got deported from Japan - she was filming dozens of people, that was her main content on Twitter/X. Japan has laws against filming people in public/taking photos of strangers and sharing them publicly without their consent. If they’re recognizable, it’s illegal. Days after she posted that couple on the train, she also posted photos and videos of people outside hanging out at night and claimed that all these people (tourist, foreigners, etc) were here solely looking for prostitutes (which is a gross assumption, and it’s gross to publicly claim that about people that can be easily identified). In the same few hours she also filmed a small group of teens in their uniforms just sitting outside the convience store eating snacks who she publicly claimed were being “harassed” by police. The police were there because Japan has a curfew for minors, and they were being told to head home because it was like 12am or so. They weren’t harassing them at all. She also made remarks about these kids “looking to sell themselves”, which again is a gross thing to claim about minors who can be identified in that footage. She was a gross mess and people were right to report her enough that it got her looked into and deported.
@@peanutbutter4435 I agree. Invasion of privacy is rapidly increasing with the clout addiction epidemic. As a very paranoid person who has always struggled with the crippling fear that my every move is being recorded (think of the Truman Show), these people make it very hard for me to want to leave the house. It is terrifying and so disabling (as I already struggle with disorders and disabilities). That weirdo asshat who filmed the strangers in Japan was clearly trying so hard to act "PC" and "woke" that she ended up doing the complete opposite... what a world we live in!
@@peanutbutter4435there are curfews in some states in the us-or at least i know there’s one in texas. i think that’s it in regards to these laws, though
I believe, the reason why japan has so strict laws about public photography, especially in trains is because of all the incel peepers which went there to take naughty skirt pics. It became a real problem in the 2000's.
@@hyperturbotechnomikeno it wasn‘t just foreigners, it was majority wise japanese (older) men. It‘s sadly part of their culture which needs to be talked about more, yet won‘t since japanese people tend to be obedient because of societal expectations that are highly looked upon.
Medic here - I have been filmed while attempting to resuscitate someone's loved one who was in cardiac arrest. Forget me, the disrespect to my patients and their families during that moment is unbelievable. That should not be normalised.
i’ve seen a crowd of people standing dead eyed filming a car that was on fire with officials trying to help. i was pulling into work and it was honestly haunting to look at. you couldn’t even see anyone’s face but the idea that possibly filming someone’s last moments wasn’t bothering any of them was horrifying.
One time i was at the beach and a guy went into cardiac arrest and everybody (about 40 people) stood there recording while the paramedics attempted to resuscitate him on the sand. Their kids were recording. He died.
This happened at the resturaunt i worked at. someone was haing diabetic shock and heat stroke on the side of this narrow road. People kept blocking the one lane we had to get the ambulance in to hang halfway out the windows and film on their phones. I would calmly ask them to leave so the ambulance could get in and theyd flip me off and then drive away.
@@hoveringvan9961They’re not saying the announcement and rule is crazy, they’re saying it’s crazy it has to be a formal rule in the first place. They are in support of people not filming strangers.
@@starmookk Honestly, some Karens are definitely entitled brats but a whole lot of the "Karen meltdown" vids I've seen are just someone clearly having some kind of mental health episode. Would you want your lowest mental state documented and put on blast for the entire world? So that it can circulate even if you come out of it and get the help you need? These people deserve some level of privacy too even if they're acting completely out of pocket
Being filmed without my consent scares the f out of me. My ex once came home with an anxiety attack because he thought a group of young women/girls were filming him in public transport and laughing at him but he wasn't sure. Dude was shaking. He's got anxiety disorder, severe social anxiety and strangers taking pictures of him and laughing was quite literally his biggest fear. Some people are so into themselves, they forget other people have whole lives, just as interesting and just as complicated as their own.
I understand how your ex feels, my boyfriend was taking his mum's dog for a walk and the dog did her business, so obviously he had a poop bag and cleaned up after the dog. While doing it a group of young girls laughed and filmed him. It was insane.
Right! I am neurodivergent and have bad days where a culmination of factors make me very sensitive to stimuli. It’s hard enough going out, TikTok and the never ending thirst for clout had made me even more afraid of people. Like my hands aren’t doing well so I’m wearing ponytail extensions instead of braids and my first thought stepping out was, “What if someone comes and tries to snatch off my ponytail for a TikTok prank video?” 😑 Like dude, people should not have to worry about this sort of sh*t.
I never really understood paranoia induced anxiety attacks until one horrifying experience. I took what I assumed was a normal ecstasy pill at a music festival but it was laced with something weird and had a really bad reaction to it (my fault I know). It was an on site camping festival (Coachella) and while I was alone in my tent that night I convinced myself that the conversation our neighbors were having was about them conspiring to dump an ice chest full of water into my tent because I thought I had somehow inadvertently offended them during my delusion (I hadn't and they weren't). I swore I heard them secretly talking crap about me and formulating their revenge so I spent the whole night half hunched over awkwardly standing in the middle of the tent waiting for them to do it until the literal sun came up. I even thought I heard them asking a security guard for permission to harass me based on what I had done to them. It was really bad. I didn't fully snap out of it until I tried to explain to my friend why I was so upset that following morning and he looked seriously concerned for my mental wellbeing. Luckily by then the effects had mostly warn off so I was slowly able to recognize that what I experienced was all in my head thank God. Just because my situation was drug induced doesn't mean otherwise sober people don't suffer from these nightmarish delusions. It is so real to you when you're in that state that it's absolutely frightening. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
"Sonder - noun. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own." A word you don't see very often, but I've always loved the meaning
I feel like empathy and social awareness is no longer a thing anymore. How hard is it to think, “oh this person has their own unique experience of life and I shouldn’t judge them by one video.”
im pretty sure theyre predicting our gen (gen z) will become the least empathetic people in thr world because of the way we grew up and the situations we have grown up with (aka covid etc)
Especially the people immediately slamming that one autistic kid… like I’m autistic and I’m told I am a robot, or lack empathy, and then those same people turn around and destroy a stranger for the way their brain is wired
That’s a good thing. People are accepting reality more. The girl who was touched by the dancer has no right to complain about it, because that’s not a normal human reaction. Just because you have a disability doesn’t mean everyone else has to stop what they’re doing and suck it up and owe it to you.
The other day, someone on my college campus uploaded a video to the university public Snapchat story zooming into someone's dorm window to record them dancing to Just Dance or something like that... it was so unsettling, a total invasion of privacy. I think Curtis really captured the problem in this video. Some people forget that other people are real, not just NPCs.
I will say I feel like this is on a different level then just getting filmed in public. when you’re in public you expect to see people filming and stuff. But think you’re in your dorm room in your own privacy and somebody is filming you through the window. that’s stalker shit
@ville2_ imagine having so much time on ur hands you make a fake account go to multiple videos and comment the same thing under each one of them💀take that time to grow up.
i live in CONSTANT paranoia of being filmed. the girls at my school film tiktoks so much and i have to cover my face and dash past the camera in fear that i’ll be tracked and get unwanted attention from literally thousands of people💀💀
I'm SO glad you made this video. I'm autistic and I'm terrified that I'll accidentally do something weird in public and someone will film me and it'll go viral. I ended up getting diagnosed with agoraphobia two years ago and I'm at the point now where I can't even open my blinds or go out onto my balcony anymore. I miss feeling comfortable in the world.
thats not recording, thats just humanity warped to its core for capitalism, eyeballs get the advertisers money, look at trump and elon musk - 2 of the worst of humankind that would surely make fun of you and talk shit about you based on a video or picture, and they get tons of money and power and idiot fans to tell them how great they are, and everyday they use their positions to troll and lie and make fun of people like teenaged bullies.
many ppl use laws to overshadow their morals. i criticized this poster for filming girls on the beach and all the ppl replying just said it's not illegal as if that makes it ok
@@uniqueswift4480yup it’s called positive law, as long as an act is “legal” some people see no problem with it which is a very dangerous way of thinking considering situations like this or even worse, the fact that child marriage is legal in 41 states so it must be “moral” 😀
@@uniqueswift4480Oh goodness, I found so many people like that in the comments of this very video! Like, just because it's legal where they live, that automatically makes it okay for everyone
This video is so, so important. I say this as an autistic person who was flimed having a shutdown at work without my consent a couple of months ago. It's so genuinely terrifying to think that someone could be filming you, and take the clip out of context and put it on tiktok for the whole world to see.
@@softiesoftie561 Yeah, I'm fine, but I never taught that class again, and the students who did it were suspended, so at least some form of justice was dealt.
@@arachne4070 just quit your job to be quite honest. The teachers are definitely making fun of you behind your back, and if they aren’t than the student certainly are. How are you supposed to cultivate a relationship of respect with any of them now?? You’ve shown your mental weakness to adolescents. What a fool you’ve been. Children are sociopaths. Now they’re just going to want to try to solve the puzzle of how to make you have another break down. What kind of bullshit did they teach you at the school where you got your degree that makes you eligible to teach if they didn’t even teach you about the psychology of adolescents??
i am TERRIFIED of being filmed having a meltdown or a panic attack. i'm usually able to hold it off a little until i can be alone but i'm scared that one day i won't be able to and i'll get posted on social media to be made fun of. the way people are so self-centered is pathetic tbh
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I'm currently working on a college research paper on this topic and using your video as a way to find specific examples of the Filming Strangers In Public epidemic, so thanks Kurtis!!
I feel like this comment makes it seem like I found your video while researching the topic-- nah I've been watching your channel since I was like 13. I actually chose the topic for my paper after watching your video. So thanks for that too Kurtis
Being photographed/filmed in public is genuinely one of my biggest fears. I’ve had nightmares about some photo of me going viral and the entire world making nasty comments about my appearance. I can’t believe this type of behavior is considered socially acceptable nowadays.
Fwiw just know that none of what others say reflects on you. The people who partake in these types of posts are a bunch of chronically online no life losers who think getting a bunch of likes equals achievement. Twitter is a weird place and warped af at this point.
I hate sharing pictures of myself and i even despise the fact that my mother has childood photos. It makes me unconfortable the fact that my photos might be somewhere online.
@@laurenvcouto I. get anxiety just thinking people at my school even recognize me or know my name and im constantly scared that strangers are judging my clothes and appearence. I really dont need my face shared whit anybody. or my name
Happened to me once. Some Highschool kid took my picture on the bus, and send it to one of his friends, making fun of my face. As if I didn't already feel ugly enough
yesterday I saw a woman dressed really cool, with blonde curly hair and I sooo wanted to draw her because she looked like a main character from a movie. So my girlfriend walked up to her and said in a nutshell: "hello, sorry to bother you, but you are really pretty. Would you mind if I took a picture of you so we could draw you later?" And she then gave us her number and name so we could send her the drawing later. Consent is key, even in public space. plus, it could make someones day better.
i went to six flags and one of the scare actors had a beautiful spider costume with a long dress and webbing details, and i politely asked if i could take a picture to show my boyfriend her costume. she was so sweet and said "of course!" and did a pose showing off the sleeves and it was a lovely interaction. it only took like five seconds to ask and the photo looked even better because she posed to show off the outfit!
I really liked my coworker’s outfit the other day and I asked her if I could take a picture of her in that outfit because I wanted to draw it and she said yes. Consent is necessary.
Fun fact if you buy a phone in Japan they have the camera shutter sound and you CAN NOT TURN IT OFF AT ALL! They do this for privacy reasons so if you are going to take a photo people will know!
We need more people like Kurtis calling people out when it comes to filming people in public. The internet is allowing it to become normalized and its weird.
I dunno if I fever dreamed this but I remember i saw a video of a man taking a picture of a woman’s underskirt in Japan where he forgot that his phone made the shutter sound. It was so sad on the woman’s part. I hope he still live with that and that he paid 😢
@@firefly_the_rescue9308i mean that does happen frequently in japan, there are even signs warning women that men take advantage of train settings to take pictures. Absolutely disgusting
Not only Japanese phones actually. If you go to Japan, your phone will automatically disable that option. The sound is very loud too. It's a good protection of course, but it can be annoying when you want to respect the calm of certain places.
@@ikeshi How that? The fact that phones automatically disable the silent photo? I mean I've experienced it myself. Though it might be because my phone was a Sony, idk
I’m autistic and there’s always the background fear that someone will film me in public for being “weird” or “cringe” just for living my life. It sucks so much. I would also probably freak out if a random stranger grabbed me and tried to get me to high five them. I’m constantly worried about people deciding I’m weird or overreacting when I’m reality I’m just a person who doesn’t like to be touched. Regardless of if I’m autistic or not I shouldn’t have to be ok with random people touching me
same, its already happened to me a couple times at school other than general bullying, i had to drop out right when i turned 16. why cant people treat us like fucking human beings??
SAME and my autism already makes me petrified to leave the house so this fear just adds to it. It sucks that we have to worry about stuff like this why can’t ppl just mind their own business :( Like I feel like the internet has made ppl forget about boundaries and also that the people around them have feelings
I don’t have an autism diagnosis but this has always been such a fear of mine as well…. Constantly imagining what I’m doing like I’m watching myself in third person lmao
As someone who escaped an abusive relationship with my mother at a young age and spent the majority of my childhood being terrified of being in any kind of picture on the chance that it'd be posted and the abuser could use that to find me, yeah, maybe don't film and post online about complete strangers.
you know i just realised my best friend is in a very similar situatuion and considering were both goth.....im gonna keep an eye out now. im so sorry you had to go through that, i hope youre safe
I'm sorry that this has to be something you worry about, I am disabled myself and my sister is on the spectrum and I'm so worried one day she will have a meltdown at school and some unsavory individual will record her and post it... she would be so upset about that and I hope it never happens to her or you or anyone really.
Yeah I'm a weird person, I've got several diagnoses and my anxiety is definitely worse knowing I could go viral if some spots me just living my life. I talk to myself under my breath, i do repetitive motions, i speak in a stilted way, I have some phobias, you get the picture. Well I used to also softly sing along to music playing in stores and do some (very awkward looking) dancing. I try to never relax in public now I try and be completely silent and have still hands. Before I was a weird person who still felt relatively comfortable in public and now I'm essentially a shut in
I'm autistic and have contamination OCD as well (though mine is food-related) and honestly my heart goes out to the person in that video. Being autistic in public is hard enough, and OCD is one hell of a disorder. I hope they're doing okay :( also, to anyone who says "but that's not a rational response to being touched!" when have mental health issues like OCD ever been rational? that's the whole point of OCD. Also, autism can make being touched especially suddenly and/or by strangers extremely distressing. even if the person in the video wasn't autistic, it should still be expected not to touch people without consent.
EXACTLY!! thank god kurtis didnt show the comments of the person's sister's video, bc im 100% expecting someone to say "ok but they didnt have to cry abt it" and it wouldve made me so pissed as someone whos got that all my life for my disorders. like.. DID U NOT WATCH HER VIDEO?? im really tired of people going "just because you have [insert mental disorder] doesnt mean you can [insert literal symptom of mental disorder]" like. them crying doesnt affect you??? ppl are so weird.
Yes!!! I have OCD and contamination isn’t one of my obsessions, but I have plenty and they can absolutely make you do things that don’t seem “normal” to people without OCD. It’s genuinely not something I’d wish on the worst person in the world, and the way people minimize it kills me.
@@lemonmeat ugh yes!! "it's not an excuse" is one of my least favourite phrases ever because it's used to invalidate people with mental disorders / neurodivergency and demonise the bad symptoms, because you're only allowed to be autistic if you mask well, and you're only allowed to be depressed if you're still tidy and clean, and you're only allowed to have the "OCD" that means you like your pens in the right order (🙄) otherwise you're clearly just making excuses to be a failure. "It's an explanation, not an excuse" an excuse is just an explanation you don't like lmao, mental illness and neurodivergency isn't just cute and quirky and masked for everyone's convenience all the time and quite frankly we wish above ANYONE ELSE that we weren't this way too - it isn't a choice.
Autistic person here as well! I make your words mine. I hate being touched by strangers, so much that when my father died during 2020 I was glad there was a pandemic so no one could touch me to "help" or "calm" me. Yes, it's horrible. No, it's not humor. That's exactly what I thought while they cremated my father. It was awful. I'm able to handle strangers touching me when I'm ok, but when I'm not... oh boy, it's a finger to make me meltdown hard.
She shouldn't be in large groups of people if she can't handle being touched. People bump into people, or need to get your attention for one reason or another. You can't have conditions like that and force everyone around you to change especially when your putting yourself in the line of danger.
As someone who was filmed by classmates repeatedly in middle school, I appreciate you calling this out. This was something that I just kind of had to deal with it on my own, because even the person who told me it was happening just said to "stop acting so weird, and maybe they'll stop filming you." (Weird behavior I was doing: playing on playground equipment).
As someone who recently had an anxiety attack on the bus over a random person snapping a pic of me, I can't even IMAGINE how stressful having your face on tik tok for thousands to see would be
Same thing happened to me, i was at a bus stop and these dudes started clicking pictures and I turned away immediately and got out of there but i was so anxious. Even now I think back at it and i feel scared because of these stupid ai stuff like deep fake scares me to the core. It's so creepy and scary
I’m a nurse and you would not believe how often we have to tell grown adults that they can’t film us without permission. I completely respect that they are going through something intense and might want to document, but nurses are just regular people who deserve privacy!
it must suck. i was on facetime with my mom once and a nurse walked in and then she yelled at ME about recording her even tho.. i wasn’t. so i thought it must happen quite a bit if she just assumed that was happening 😭
when my dad was in the hospital, we had a nurse that was really handsome and my sister and i acknowledged it. my mom secretly filmed him and we both told her how it was illegal and that she’s a freak for doing that but she sees nothing wrong with it bc filming strangers is so normalized in her home country
@@k80_ Yeah, that's definitely another problem. I've talked to paramedics who collect photos of gnarly or unusual injuries, and I'm just like, "how did you get this person's permission when all their bones are falling out and they're on fire?" There can be a lot of conversation during an ambulance ride, so I like to HOPE that they do have consent for those photos, but IDK man, I think I'll stick to drawing as my hobby and focus on shoving those fire bones back into place when I'm on the clock as an EMT. There are SO many laws and regulations about patient privacy. So many.
I was working a box office gig, and when I have downtime, I'll blast music and sing. A family came up to my window, and I apologized for being distracted. The dad said. "That's OK! I'm making you into a youtube star!" I told him, 'please don't. ' to which he responded, "I don't need your consent," while smiling. One of the most gross customer service experiences of my life. How do you justify that, and in front of your kids no less.
As a 27-year-old woman, I LOVE eating alone. I call them my "self-dates". People shouldn't be pitied for treating themselves to dinner and a beer. On top of that, I used to work as a server, and had a regular who'd come in on Sunday nights. Robert was a jovial older gentleman who just loved his Sunday routine of church, choir practice, and then treating himself to the sunday night special every week while doing the crossword. Let people live!
Exactly, as someone who has autism and OCD so can feel overwhelmed sometimes, I love going to eat at a fast food place or restaurant alone after a long day at uni or work and just de-stressing with some great food and peace and quiet.
I worked at a bar and barbecue when i was 17 as a waitress and they had like local live music like an elderly gentleman who was a fiddle player and I had multiple regulars who are were just nice old men who came off the lake or a long day of blue collar work to listen to a guitar, eat ribs, and drink a beer by themselves but they always enjoyed if i had time to take my dinner/lunch break with them occasionally but it was not the main reason they came to the restaurant. They wanted to treat themselves and be an active part of a society, there was nothing shameful about their behavior and often I find myself missing their vibes because they were all really cool dudes! I now also go out and be a part of a society like they did, if i want a treat from my favorite restaurant or grab a nice drink from the bar by myself its some of the best times I experience in a week.
Accounts dedicated to posting strangers nodding off, experiencing drug induced psychosis, or just existing as a chemically dependent person shatter me. I’m a recovering addict who works with recovering addicts and thinking about them being filmed and mocked at their lowest point makes me so angry and sad. It’s dehumanizing, stigmatizing, and disgusting.
im in a photojournalism class and one of the first things they did was stress not to just 'click and run' at strangers but to make an effort to introduce yourself/ask permission. it's slightly awkward, yes, but it's actually respectful and not intrusive af
I've had people ask to photograph me a couple times. I've never had any problems with it when asked, it actually makes the whole encounter come off as a compliment. So, awkward for the photographer yes, but very much appreciated!
Yeah before everyone had camera phones me and some friends went on a road trip with a click camera. We saw a guy who just looked really bad ass and asked if we could take his picture. It was a nice interaction and we got a pretty cool pic. It all took less than a minute to be polite.
i feel like tiktok has made people so unempathetic especially to people who dress different or don't fit beauty standards. bullying is SO normalized on that app and if you call them out you're just told you're soft. you can't even compliment someone who doesn't fit conventional beauty standards without a squad of 13 year old boys with perms saying you're lying because they can't understand that beauty is subjective
Also the way cyber bullying isn't even disguised with another word anymore, people will outright say they enjoy bullying people online, they think we should "bring bullying back" or whatever, it's genuine freak behavior
@@amoureux6502 bullying is genuinely traumatizing and people act like it's no big deal. i've heard so many people say bullying helps people become "normal" or some shit. it's insane that they act like it's their duty to make others feel so insecure that they change themselves and don't see anything wrong with it
This whole mindset of viewing others as NPCs is so toxic, this is another version of that. Low IQ individuals emerged from isolation and fully forgot empathy.
In the US, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. If the place is open to the public at large, you can absolutely be filmed without your consent.
my highschool bully used to record me and post it on his private story. he did it to a lot of other less "popular kids" literally altered the trajectory of my life. dont record unconsenting individuals, its fucked up.
same with me, but he took a photo of me and used it as a profile picture for some social media app (don't remember what it was as this happened like 4 years ago)
As a teenage guy who has worn a dress to school before, I can completely relate. My pictures were everywhere with people making sexual comments about me behind my back. Absolutely traumatizing.
yeah this was a big thing at my secondry. somehow some girl found pictures of my friend at the beach when she was 7 and made an insta to post just those photos. like bruh
At my high school before I graduated people made Instagram accounts where they took pictures of people around campus to make fun of. There were pages for cringey couples, people who fell asleep in class or on the bus, and people’s posture. It was so terrifying, I’ve never felt more insecure and like I’m being watched. As someone with horrible anxiety I was constantly so worried people were judging me and getting ready to post a picture of me for the school to ridicule. I hate this trend of feeling entitled to other people’s bodies and reactions to make content off of them. If you’re such a boring person you need to rely on picking on the people around you maybe social media isn’t for you.
That's absolutely horrendous, it's so sad schools are powerless to do anything ☹️ Hopefully things will ease up for you with time and better environments!
Yeah my high school had one of those “shoes of people using bathroom stalls” accounts. So in the place you’re supposed to have the most privacy everyone is farming for content.
Same.. I had lost a lot of weight and rushing forgot my belt and a picture of my ass crack in a thong landed on there and I was humiliated. It took a lot to embarrass me but that Fuckin did it
@@prixe12 thank you! Exactly. Also people who go out alone aren't necessarily lonely or single either. And what if they are? Having romantic or sexual partners doesn't make anyone better than those who don't. Anyways, cheers @BlackLivesMatter1414
A TH-camr filmed me at work three years ago without my consent and posted that footage of me in a video they uploaded to TH-cam. The video garnered over a million views and they even put me in the video thumbnail (albeit it was a shot from behind). My coworker recognized me in the video and showed it to me a few weeks after it got posted and that’s how I even learned about it. I live in a one party consent state, so there’s not really anything I could do about it as far as legal matters were concerned. Well, fast forward to just a few weeks ago and I learned that the TH-camr got arrested for some pretty hefty charges and their entire channel, including the video with me in it, had been taken down. Now that’s what I call karma! TLDR: Please don’t film people without their consent, karma packs a serious wallop
I was once approached by one of those guys who do those random interviews on the street in the middle of hiding a breakdown. My voice was so shaky so I didn’t talk, but he didn’t even ask if I wanted to be recorded. I didn’t say anything into the mic and just walked away and I heard him say to the camera: “Ooooh, someone’s moody.” And it took my whole willpower to not punch him in the face. To this day, I have no clue whether or not it was posted. This was back in September, so if it was, there’s a solid chance I wouldn’t find it.
Im so incredibly grateful to live in France. Here we have what’s called a « right to your own image » which prohibits anyone from taking pictures or filming your face without explicit written or filmed consent. If you don’t follow it, you can get sued and fined for around 3000€
how does the law get applied near the eiffel tower or any other tourist attraction. If you record a video and post to tik tok or smthing, can you get fined?
French here. The law doesn’t prohibit taking pictures of people in public, it forbids taking the picture and diffusing it publicly or using it. Taking pictures or filming in itself, including people in a public space, isn’t forbidden. It is if the picture is taken in a private place / from a public place but showing something taking place in private, and/or if you share it publicly without the consent of people concerned / purposely take picture of one or more individuals that are unaware and non consenting (so crowds or people walking by are not concerned), and maybe a case can be made if you can prove the content was constituting harassment / impeding on your freedom and security and not respecting your consent, or the act is a crime in itself (taking pictures of someone you are actively stalking, or upskirting for example). If it wasn’t documentaries on tv would litterally need to get consent from everyone and anyone traversing the street in front of their camera and if not the persons could sue them. Street photographers wouldn’t exist, 50% of all social media content too.
I literally served a lady at work the other day who was live on Instagram. She was recording the transaction, what she was buying and then tries to film me scanning her items through. When I asked her to stop she got SO rude, but to top it all off, she came back later that day (not recording this time) and returned the expensive items she bought. So many of these ‘influencers’ put on this big persona and pretend to be affluent but it’s all bs. Embarrassing
Oh geez, I _hated_ when a customer would throw me off while I tried to ring them up, then get all pissy and insulting like I haven't gone through the same interaction hundreds of times that morning and maybe, just maybe, it's a *bit* mind-numbing and difficult to snap to attention when suddenly someone complicates the process. Can't even imagine being filmed like that.
@@essiggurke7276 One time I came in to work despite having severe nausea, trying to be all dedicated, and I got in trouble because my smile wasn't pleasant enough. Pulled aside and written up for "bad attitude," all that nonsense. The same store also left customer feedback printouts in the break room, and while they normally covered up the outright offensive comments, they included one telling the women working at the store that they needed to be prettier and "smell nice" for the customers. Anyway now I'm in healthcare, where at least if I get screamed at it's because the patient/family is understandably distraught. Usually.
I once made a tiktok saying I hated living in a tourist city cuz ppl would just film me and my friends without consent all the time (to the extent that one of my mates no longer eats in public) and a girl commented and told me to 'just move' ♡ ah yes. Moving my whole life so strangers don't have to learn boundaries
instagram & tiktok comments are literally making me lose faith in humanity & I'm not just saying that because it's a meme. its always just the most brainless & vile stuff you will ever read
I’ve been filmed without my permission so many times and it continues to happen which is actively making my social anxiety worse. This needs to stop genuinely
it's crazy to me how people sitting alone at a restaurant is sad or weird somehow. i feel like people who think that way just don't enjoy their own company and i feel bad for them tbh. i love doing things on my own, it's honestly the best.
People like that tend to have shitty friends and toxic relationships because they're so deathly afraid of being alone that they surround themselves with whoever will take them.
I've finally started to do things on my own and it's so freeing. Going to a brewery with an ebook and good beer is a great afternoon. A couple of my friends think it's super weird I do things on my own but like....why?
I travel for a living so I frequently go out to eat, on hikes, to museums, concerts, etc. all by myself. I've never felt weird about it. I have great friends and a family I love, but I'm an introvert to the core, and not enough time to myself causes me to get anxious and feel emotionally drained, actually.
the most irritating thing to me is when people assume that because you’re alone you must be sad. just because you don’t like being alone doesn’t mean i don’t, and i actually prefer it much more than being with people🙏
Years ago I ended up with agoraphobia after being stalked and assaulted. It's taken a long time to be able to go out and enjoy the world, or simply live a functional life. Having random strangers come up to me with their phone camera pointed at me is extremely upsetting. I'm tired of this being a thing but know if I react I'll be used as a source of content and called a Karen. I'm just trying to live my life.
Some callous people say “just don’t go outside” when I say don’t film people without their consent. What? I should become a shut in because I don’t want to be posted online? When I go outside in consenting to be seen by the handful of people at a store, not millions. In a more drastic reason: what if you film someone who is hiding from an abuser or stalker and you’ve just blasted them online? What if you cause someone to get harassed & bullied because you posted them online mocking them? Leave strangers alone.
@mxngos7493 what if you're not the subject of the photo you're just in the background is a photographer supposed to ask for consent from other people or just the subject of the photo. For example any picture of a couple in times Square
Two dudes walked into my job live streaming and I was so panicked I didn't know what to do- they literally had the camera right in my face and as soon as they left I couldn't stop crying. I was the only person at work and had to close early because I couldn't stop sobbing my eyes out because I felt so vulnerable and embarrassed; they literally could've just asked if they could record and I might've let them, but it's such an invasion of privacy
Honestly I don't even care I'd have called the cops screw those jerks. Then again of you set that boundary you're viewed as a Karen my god this generation is just disgusting
Yeah, I had people point their cameras at me at work despite the rules prohibiting videos and photos without the staff's permission (I work at a gym) and it feels violating. However, when I attended a pride parade and hundreds of people had me in their videos, I happily waved into all the cameras because I expected it to happen. Consent and expectations make all the difference
Ich lebe in Bayern und es hält sich irgendwie keiner dran. Ich selber nutze kein TikTok, weil ich die Plattform einfach nur bescheuert finde, aber ich seh ständig Leute am rumfilmen. Meine Schwägerin wurde mal im Edeka von zwei Jugendlichen gestalkt, nur weil sie asiatisch aussieht und die zwei Jugendlichen sie unbedingt fragen wollten, wie sie mit "all dem Rassismus" in der Gegend zurecht kommt. Bis zum Parkplatz haben sie sie drangsaliert und dann noch einen blöden Kommentar über ihr Auto abgelassen. Die aktuelle Jugendgeneration hier in Deutschland ist zum Großteil einfach nur komplett bescheuert. Zumindest kommt es mir so vor. Sie war ziemlich irritiert durch diese Aktion. Glaub die zwei hätten genauso gut vom Funk-Netzwerk vom ÖRR sein können, weil die auch ständig auf die Ideen kommen solchen Unsinn zu fabrizieren. TL;DR in english: This law does indeed exist in Germany, but many people seem to be unaware or just break it. Sueing is possible, but also complicated with our inefficient bureaucracy and increasingly ineffective justice system (at least here in the region, where they recently have let a serial s3x offender free without punishment).
Theoretically, yes. Doesn't stop strangers from taking photos of you or you being blasted on tv by the news. I ended up on tv as the only subject TWICE without being aware at the time that I was even filmed.
4:05 Bro I swear to god I also am neurodivergent, and I was having a panic attack in my class and in the street and some random people in my class and on the street took videos of me showing my face making fun of me and just being $hitty . It’s sad that we have to expect that these days. Also I hope people stop being such a jerk to them
also not to mention the threat filming strangers in public has to DV survivors and people in witness protection... so glad people are actually talking about how insane it is!!
@@cryfly1 aight im gonna follow you around with twelve phones recording all your moves, and posting it to five different social networks across the globe. is it really hard to just, chill and relax in public?
@@cryfly1 I mean, yeah, screaming in public is generally frowned upon. Like, even in happiness, people tend to not like it when you're suddenly being really loud, potentially right next to their ears
@@cryfly1 generally based on past experiences of mine, people who talk and reason like you are completely abled. this isn’t to say you’re immediately like. a shit person or whatever, just that i maybe misinterpreted your response - i’m autistic and have trouble with tone
@@cryfly1bro they are literally just asking that you don’t randomly make fun of someone in front of the rest of the world?? Like- it’s that easy?? Just take selfies or pictures of your friends and family or birds and dogs or something?? Not to be mean to strangers??
I've been filmed in public by guys before, and I think a lot of times it's just another form of sexual harassment. I'm an autistic woman, and I've been catcalled/sexually harassed in public since I was around 9 or 10, and every single time it happened has been so scary and exhausting for me. Recently, I was even kissed without my consent by a random strange man and I was also in an Uber where the driver constantly was taking wrong turns and calling me babe and trying to flirt. It's so terrifying and I felt so completely disrespected and disregarded. The thing I hate about it the most is knowing that there is a good chance that if I don't react exactly how they want, I could get screamed at, followed around, physically/sexually assaulted, or even stabbed or shot (yes I live in America). Now when I see videos of guys putting a camera in a girl's face, it brings a new leave of coercion and control into it, because if she doesn't comply they can get thousands of people to hate on her. We as a society really need to address the epidemic of sexual harassment of women. We make up 50% of the population, but we are always taught that being constantly disrespected is just sometimes we have to live with. It sucks a lot.
Jesus christ thats horrible, I have had my fair share of boys hitting on me while recording but i'm so sorry you have to go through that. Sexual harassers are one of the only people i am willing to physically harm.
Yep when I was in elementary, middle school, & high school people used to drive by when I was getting off the bus & walking beside the road to my grandparents house & would beep at me & yell out their windows!! I was a whole child! Now I always had a shape. I was an “early bloomer” as they say & have a very curvaceous body but they KNEW I was a child because they just watched me get off the bus & even if they didn’t actually see the bus they saw my book bag on my back so they still knew I just got off a bus & therefore, was a whole child! It was sickening!
On one hand, men (or really anyone with a heart) would truly appreciate someone flirting with them or giving out random compliments. On the other, you forget that men have feelings too and our feelings are just as important as womens (Gasp!) I know, weird, huh? We already care about the sexual harrassment of women (we shouldn't care about compliments that don't harrass) but when are we going to care about how men are treated? It's crazy, you always see all this empathy for women but there is absolutely zero for men.
@@nate9361this is a woman describing her really shitty encounters with creepy men and being sexually harassed. Wtf even is your point?? Acting like every single man would love being constantly harassed like women are proves you have 0 clue how women are treated by creeps.
I absolutely hate being in pictures or videos if I don’t consent. Even from family or friends. Having some rando on the internet doing this kind of shit with me is one of my biggest fears. Especially if it was a time where I just wanted to be left alone or was in a bad mood while in public.
I was startled in a Walmart as a prank. Someone snuck up behind me while I was focusing on finding something and started yelling about some sports team or something with their phone recording and set on a cart. I’m autistic, anxious, have CPTSD, and agoraphobia, making it so I can hardly even leave the house without my partner. Thankfully my partner was in a different part of the store so I was able to get support from him afterwards, but the amount that triggered me and gave me more reasons to be scared of other people has stuck with me still about a year later.
People better have a second phone. That kinda stuff makes me pretty aggressive. Then I'm the bad guy for shoving the phone literally down their throat. Don't fuck with strangers, they mightn't be ok with it.
@@bibsp3556id get aggressive too if some fucking weirdo startled *anyone* in public, that shit is a completely unacceptable way for adults to act in public to strangers.
@@JackT702 I think that an accidental touch by passerby is understandable. But people have the right to assume strangers won't touch them without consent.
@JackT702 so they're just supposed to not live their life and go places? Just dont touch strangers smfh. God people just need to learn to mind their business.
As a person who dresses goth, being filmed and having people take photos of me happens a lot. People often excuse it by "you're asking for attention looking like that!" Etc. It sucks. Dont film strangers no matter how they look or dress. lol
The way people think standing out = deserving of disrespect is so backwards. Like even if you WERE asking for attention (I know you aren't, just hypothetically) - that doesn't mean taking pictures of you. It's not that hard to comprehend. People act like they aren't opening themselves up to the exact same thing when a stranger decides they're a weird NPC by continuing to defend this behavior.
YES THIS. Alternative ppl of any style don't exist for you to take photos of and film. Ask us for consent if ur gonna do it or else ur gonna get my ass in a sweet lolita dress punching you in the face as you don't have the damn decency and respect to just let me be
I hate the whole “if you dress different then you’re asking for it” like no?? Just because someone is dressed in any type of Alt fashion, a colorful outfit, or even a costume, it doesn’t matter. Unless someone is straight up holding a sign that says “Please take pics of me” then they are not “asking for it”
People always think women or people who act or look different than the norm deserve anything done to them it’s actually insane how people can’t understand consent.
In my freshman year of high school, someone took a picture of me from behind and posted it on Snapchat with the caption “Didn’t know they let hobos in 😂 💀” because I was wearing a sweatshirt. I only came to know about it because a classmate recognized me. I do live in a very low income household so it really hurt to know that thats all people saw of me.
It’s crazy how people with social anxiety had to spend ages unlearning the fear that “everyone’s looking at you to make fun of you” only for that to become a very real possibility
fr I have PTSD and was starting to believe people like the ones that have hurt me are rare because I worked through my sht. But they aren't, they're "normal" and increasingly common.
The truth is that my anxiety wasn't wrong in this jn regards to basic human decency. How tf am I supposed to not be agoraphobic and/or paranoid when, factually speaking, the threats aren't rare??
Literally me. I'm so done with this 😭😭😭
@@sourgreendolly7685 FUCKING LITERALLY RIGHT????
I spent years being made fun of and pathologized and treated like a delusional crazy person, only for people like this to not only be extremely common, not only act like this in broad daylight all the time, but for people to literally not care about it and not think it's all that weird.
How are we supposed to "heal" when the traumatizing situation we experienced becomes the society-wide default expected norm?
Was gonna like this because I can relate heavily. But I saw it has 666 likes and ya know.... Hail Satan
Aha! I knew being a slow unlearner would come in handy someday. I'm ahead of things for once.
I looked up photography laws in Japan, and it’s legal so long as it isn’t derogatory to the subjects. Literally the bar was in hell and that person still tripped on it
Hahaha "the bar was in hell, and that person still tripped on it" has officially entered my own lexicon. Brilliant.
What a great way to put it 😂
Fucking lol
Not hell, Australia
Kurtis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging..
i had a friend in highschool who got a non-consenting video of her taken while she was walking to the mall. this stranger who took the video wanted to post about street fashion and i guess that person liked what she was wearing. it went kind of viral locally and she had to move away because she was trying to hide from a scary stalker ex-bf who apparently found out her location based on the background of the video. even if a video was meant to compliment, people should start assuming others may have a safety or security reason for wanting to stay out of the internet's public eye and ask for consent before recording or posting.
this is what I'm thinking, you could put people in real danger
omg thats so crazy
internet safety and how extremely important it is should really be taught to people. i feel like it isnt highlighted enough, or taken seriously.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414if it happened in the US, there is no laws against it. If it can be seen from public property like a sidewalk it can be photographed. Terrible for the woman regardless.
@@jaqenhghar6244 I feel like this needs to be changed. If you are just a part of a crowd (aka background), being filmed in public ok. But I feel if a video is posted online where a random person (who did not consent) is singled out/focused on, it should not be allowed.
And to add: just because it isn't illegal, doesn't make it morally ok.
I really hate this mindset that old people are cute if they’re a couple and sad if they’re alone. They’re just adults who’ve been alive longer than other adults. They’re not inherently cute or sad just because they’re old. My grandma says it’s infantilizing that people treat her like it’s so amazing that she can do things other adults also do, just because she’s old. It’s like when people reach a certain age, we start treating them like they’re toddlers.
ong also they were most likely in a fast food restaurant, like who tf would want someone else to watch them shove greasy food down their throat?? people just cant leave other ppl be.
this is something i have been saying for years, i genuinely think we should normalize being old since we will old go through it one day lol
I feel this. My grandma is 90, and while she _is_ showing mild signs of dementia, she can still walk, drive(she's letting it expire this year) socialize, etc. she looks like she's 70. Covid didn't do as much to her as it did us lol
I also have relatives on the opposite side who _are_ depressed, physically struggling, living in assisted, but they're still chill.
It's weird to just automatically assume shit like that lol
It’s so weird right!! I live in a small town and had some relatives over around Father’s Day, my relatives saw an elderly man outside of our window standing alone , minding his business and they started staring and awwing at him! I tried to tell them “he’s just a guy, he’s not sad just because he’s alone” but they insisted on perceiving this man as sad and lonely. I hate the societal mentality that we always have to be with someone 24/7 or else we’re sad lonely hermits
So much this! My dad is turning 81 in a couple of month, he loves to travel all over the world, recently spend a couple month in South America (we're from Europe) and he often does it on his own. It's his life, he enjoys every part of it, and if you call him 'cute' or 'grandpa', he'll put you in your place pretty dang fast.
Being filmed without my consent and that being posted is one of my worst fears. People shouldn't do that.
idk about your country but in mine it’s illegal and you can get to 45.000 € if they refuse to delete the video
@@yunaoooothat’s cool! I live in American, I don't know if we have something like that in place.
It really is a scary possibility. You could become a meme in a specific internet community and never even know it.
my worst fear is being buried alive so we're basically equal
@@AGK1999FE me too, this trending and those experiences made me even more paranoid to ever step outside. what the hell is wrong with people??
The worst part is that the Japan photography laws are there so creepy men don’t take pictures of girls’ privates. But she’s so self absorbed she doesn’t get it.
also, on japanese phones you can’t turn off the camera shutter sound *because* of the creepy old men
yep theres no option to turn it off. if im not mistaken even if your phone is on silent the shutter sound will still play
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@jamie-gp5be that's literally so sad
@@Aaditri44Get this then: Two stories from Tokyo, where I lived for a few years. A Canadian acquaintance of mine got groped in public by a creepy old man and when she went to the police station to report this, they just laughed at her and said “that’s something you have to get used to when you live in Japan”. Another Swedish friend got raped and abused by her Japanese boyfriend but the police didn’t believe her story at all, because of course they rather believe the Japanese man.
Same reason their Iphone camera noises are always on by default and can't be turned off. People kept doing upskirts, to the point that it became a genuine problem
That Tokyo Big Bang Theory photographer/commentator getting deported for breaking the law to gain social media clout is the best example of karma I have ever seen.
There was a great story about this person who was a "digital nomad" in Bali, working there and living in luxury while getting paid from the US, paying taxes there and flexing on the amazing lifestyle and literally selling information about how you can do it too. It caused OUTRAGE locally and they got deported. It was great.
@@ZoeAlleyneahhhh ☺️ ya love to see it ❤😂
Karma??? more like just a sentence. 😭
Yeah except Karma in its actual form doesn’t work like that
Proud to be your 1k like. Congrats!
Regardless of whether they have autism or not they don't need to explain why they don't wanna be touched by strangers. For any reason. It's even more valid considering they are autistic but literally no one has the right to touch someone else without consent.
I BET YOU SUPPORT ABORTION HUH
Exactly. The only reason I can think of where you could go beyond consent is if some kind of accident was about to happen, like they hadn't noticed a vehicle when crossing a road, and a stranger pulled them out of harm's way.
As someone with ptsd triggered by being randomly touched, thank you!
Agreed.
Disclaimer: I know you aren’t generalizing people with autism but I have something to add to what you said ^
Although it’s commonly assumed that people with autism don’t like being touched, I personally don’t mind it at all as an autistic person, and it’s important to note that everyone with autism is different in terms of preferences. The thing Kurtis mentioned was that they also had contamination OCD. OCD has a lot to do with phobias, and when these phobias confront people with OCD it’s essentially a gateway for anxiety and engaging in obsessive and compulsive behaviors to deal with it. It’s very distressing and difficult, and it makes it more difficult when things which people are typically ok with are something that other people fear and it’s not something that people understand.
Also, the fact he left that in the video….. why would you feel comfortable filming strangers crying, knowing you caused it, and leaving it in for them to be criticized by your followers?
@@Snaggle-ToothedDog exactly. That's like even worse. A complete lack of any empathy. Bc not only did they leave it in they specifically pointed it out for people to criticize and mock.
what really annoys me is whenever someone will bring up that you shouldnt film strangers in public, hundreds of losers will be climbing out of the woodwork defending this and saying shit like "its legal to film in public, dont go out in public if you dont like it" which is an insane thing to say. guess i'll be a hermit then since people cant be bothered to learn basic manners
"ummmm if you dont wanna be filmed in public, literally stop going to a job and starve to death and die in isolation forever god 🤪 it's that easy"
unhinged. fucking unhinged. people saying this can't be fuckign real. you can't have real neurons and think this way. i refuse to believe it. actual worm brained behavior.
Fr, just because something is legal doesn’t mean you should do it.
Same energy as all those people like "Hey if you don't like one specific law you can leave the country." Like bro we don't have to define our personal morals based on the law; it's not illegal to just be rude and unpleasant but that doesn't mean we should do it.
THIS!!
I saw a video of two girls sharing an umbrella and I mentioned how weird it was to film them and people kept saying "IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!" "They're in public, you can't expect privacy in public" "It's not like the person recorded them naked, why are you making a big deal out of it"
And I'm just like??
The way this shit gets on my nerves so much. Like especially if you work at public places like me. It’s against our rules to film at the gym i work at. These people will scold you for walking in their shot and tell you to go to a different gym or exercise at home like dude no you go somewhere else youre breaking the rules
i’m a film student and literally half of my nonfiction film class is about documentary ethics and how fucked up it is to film people without their consent and it’s SO wild to see how those ethics go out the window when you’re filming on a phone instead of a camera
You mean film without consent? Also I’ve def seen a documentary or 2 film ppl in public without consent
@@Dolphinboi lol yes, i meant without. and yeah there’s a LOT of documentaries that do/have, but the point is that the practice is fundamentally unethical regardless of whether or not it’s been done before.
Yes, but documentary film making forces you to get consent often times because of the entities that you’re representing in the documentary and the entities that you will be selling the rights to the documentary to, not because it unethical to film in public, at least not in America.
@@cyan1721 for corporate-backed film maybe, but for independent/student doc, no.
also the reasons those conversations are being had in a film school environment are solely because of ethics. what we as students make for that class won’t be distributed/released, but we will be held to certain ethical standards.
398L +1L
Filming random people in public is incredibly dangerous. From personal experience, I’ve known people who have gone through great pains to delete their digital footprint due to stalking behavior, and have all that work be undone because someone decided to film them or someone near them and post it to a public platform. It led to my friend having to move to a different city and uproot their whole lives because of one idiot young boychild who wanted a chance at going viral.
That's awful. 😔
It's dangerous in another way too. Not every person will take kindly to being filmed and if they noticed it someone could potentially get violent and not care that the camera's still rolling. It's happened with some prank influencers who have had guns pulled on em. Crazy times.
Yeah we had a guy shot round here because he was filming some random stranger
This! my childhood friend had to move 4 hours away, because she and her mom was under witness protection and some stupid lady decided to take a photo of the kids playing AT SCHOOL. And post it PUBLICLY.
You probably shouldn't post about how far away your "friend" moved away is if they're in witness protection. A 4 hour drive narrows it down quite a bit. Be careful.@@dracofaun1871
@@jj-gk6rjI remember some of those stupid clown pranks almost ended poorly because they would rush someone during the height of the clown thing at night and be surprised when instead of running away they pulled a gun
Before clarifying that the girl who cried in the video was neurodivergent my first assumption was just - what if she was just having a really bad day? Sometimes when you’re stressed it doesn’t take much to push you over the edge. Maybe she was out with her friends telling them about a terrible break up, and then a stranger comes up and touches you unexpectedly, I could totally see myself bursting into tears if I was already feeling shitty that day. If someone reacts in a way that seems over the top to something you did, it may not be a reaction to to you specifically. It could just be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
hey! idk if you caught it in the vid but kurtis said that the person in the video uses they/them pronouns 😁
they/them *** person ***^
@@hello_world2767probably but just ignored it. funny that people try to be nice like that but zero out the niceness by disrespecting peoples identities.
@@maddyocean5948 orrrr maybe it was genuinely a mistake? There are times when people unintentionally assume the gender because yk society still kinda forces those gender roles on us. But you correct the person and they use the right pronouns in the future and life goes on. Everyone's happy :P
baby ngl
It’s so weird to me that people think eating alone means you’re lonely. Have you considered I’m like running errands or just like alone time 😭
I feel like those people must live in a small town because eating alone in a place like nyc is just so normalized???
Yeah these days you can’t just stop to get a quick bite to eat somewhere without people making assumptions
people who think like that are the same people who would try and "befriend" the quiet kid so they look like a good person, all while being condescending and rude to them
fr i eat alone all the time and i LOVE it
some of us just can't stand to hear the sounds of other people eating. it sucks but it's that or headphones
it's sad that the sister had to disclose personal medical information to the public just to defend them
As a full time retail worker, the “npc” brain rot is so real. If you pay attention it becomes extremely clear that people don’t see you as a human being with an inner world and a life outside your post at the store. I’ve even had friends be aghast at finding out retail involved me working on weekends and holidays, as if the people that serve them when they shop on Saturday aren’t really people.
Yeah, it's really sad. :( I think part of the weekend mentality is that a decent portion of the world has their religious services on Saturdays, and when they go to buy something on those days, they don't expect to see people they know, because... 😮 They weren't at services??? (Yes, I'm Christian, no, I don't think this about people) -_-"
People have their own life. I don't get why that's so strange to some people...
exactly! Im lucky to have really good customers at my job but when I see all these prank videos that serve to basically fuck with retail workers, I imagine myself in that scenario and it makes me furious. These kinds of people really act like people who work retail/food service/minimum wage jobs simply exist to serve them
That's why I felt so uncomfortable when I first started seeing the npc meme pop up. I was a bit of a strange kid and took my time learning that everyone else's opinions were just as valid as mine and people had their own reasons for liking or disliking things and now it feels as if people are _trying_ to unlearn that on purpose
@@liljatupsudude that's awesome that you bettered yourself like that! Truly, congratulations, most people aren't self aware enough to notice much less change anything.
Thinking of other human beings as NPCs, or seeing strangers as not real people are signs of a sociopath. The only fake “people” are these ones. If you lack human empathy you aren’t a human and I won’t treat you like one.
These “people” need to be lined up against the wall, but for the time being just carry a green laser. Shine it directly into the camera lens and it’ll destroy the entire camera. There, now they have no reason to stick around.
The worst part about all of this is that the victims will NEVER get a voice on this. It is inherently one sided. Even if you do find out that a stranger recorded you without consent and that tons of people are mocking you, you will never be able to respond to it. This shit goes completely unchecked and there are barely any consequences for violating the privacy of strangers
At leasrt as far as the US goes, there is no right to privacy in public spaces. Full stop. End of discussion.
@shindrithargriethrat8408 I mean, people aren't really talking about legality. There are plenty of things that aren't technically illegal but are still considered shitty and unkind. Going up to someone in public and shoving a microphone in their face, then asking a series of willfully obtuse questions isn't illegal (at least not everywhere), sure. But it is shit and deserving of criticism. I hate the logic that going outside at all means relinquishing your privacy and that people should be able to film and harass you as they please.
@@portablegoose Well if someone shoves a microphone in your face and won't go away that could potentially be illegal, but merely recording isn't, obviously.
As someone who's way too insecure about her appearance, the idea of someone filming me or taking pictures of me without my consent for thousands of people to see sounds horrible. I would absolutely cry about it
It happens all the time on my school bus. Seriously just invasive and flat out rude. I get what you’re saying completely
Literally this!!!!!
legit if someone does that in your face, hit them with a “you cant be doing !random offensive action!” in the most serious tone it instantly ruins there footage
This is exactly how I feel.
Not everyone’s going to be comfortable with being filmed, or better yet don’t film them at all if you have little to no shit who they are?
I have body dysmorphic disorder really bad, so same. It caused me to develop agoraphobia when I was untreated/not seeing anyone about it.
i genuinely believe that we are at an age where boundaries just don’t exist in public anymore😭 please why can’t people just behave
Too much time spent in isolation, too much desperation for internet clout/validation, not enough empathy
@@__m-a-x__what is your opinion on billy yankee is he a bad person?
Kurtis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging..
Honestly this is an american thing, no one in the majority of europe and other places does shit like this
dude honestly, like people throw things at performers during shows? i dont get it
Truly hilarious how I've been battling my social anxiety for a decade now and ten years ago I'd tell myself "what's the worst thing that could happen if you go out for lunch alone? The whole world isn't watching you." And now like. That irrational fear is rational.
This!!!! I’ve taught my brain to soothe itself by thinking “they have their own lives going on, why would they take pics of you specifically” but now it’s useless and I’ve possibly landed on some teen girls TikTok for having an anxiety attack at a food court.
why are you so right 😭😭 mann our deepest fears becoming an actual reality
@@Jhddtukbdd87542many people do not have their own lives. They have an idea of what that is, but all they do is consume. National mainstream celebrities are only a thing because of these people. It disgusts me. Our brain is the most capable of unique expression and they opt to waste it. They'd rather fit in and be no one.
I can't even explain why I still do this. It's not even consistent. Sometimes I have to actually sit in my car and pep talk myself about how I'm not nearly important enough for anyone to notice.
That's when I walk into the store with a sock from the laundry falling out of my pant leg.
Exactly. It's even worse because doing something normal can get 10 million views and have thousands of random strangers being mean for literally anything. You wearing crocs outside? Flip flops? Shorts in the winter? Shouldn't have done that, front page of TikTok 20 million views 40k comments.
I hate this idea that people who are alone in public are lonely. I go out all the time by myself and the only thing that makes it awkward is people acting like it’s sad. It’s great doing what you want, when you want, by yourself every on e in a while.
It doesn't make me feel awkard but it pisses me off because its a sign of them being stupid. If they can't figure out that being solitary does not mean "lonely", then they're stupid.
The "calling strangers NPCs" thing has been bothering me for months now. I'm glad someone finally called it out.
this!!! the NPC thing has just given people a socially acceptable way to further dehumanize the people around them. When I hear someone say "NPC", it's upsetting tbh
Aka people who don't spend their lives on the internet
@@squidybbEXACTLY. It's not cool to dehumanize people just because they're using game terms. I don't get how that isn't obvious.
It's just an alternative way to say "I am the one that matters and everyone other than me and the people I know are simple, one dimensional beings who exist to fill up space". For me, that's the exact definition of narcissism.
This line of thought I would say is kind of fascist, to think so little of other people
One time when I was 16 (I’m almost 18 now) I was at the mall with my cousin. A MAN came up to me out of nowhere with another MAN filming him. He had a phone in his hand using it as a microphone and asked me if I would date him. I awkwardly said no thanks and tried to walk away from him. This full grown man grabbed my shoulders and pulled me towards him. I am also autistic, but I don’t think even an allistic person would react well to that. My cousin pushed him away and told him to leave me alone. He continued to follow us around the store screaming at me to give him one chance. Eventually he fell to his knees screaming, then got up and walked away. That still haunts me, and I was unable to return to the mall for months afterwards because of how scary all of that was. I had a 40 minute long panic attack in the malls restroom. Please stop messing with people and filming them in public, it has real consequences.
That's harassment and I'm so sorry to hear you went through that :(
i'm so sorry that happened, sounds awful. Definition of a spoiled man-child.
omg, that’s crazy I’m so sorry! Btw why do you say man in all caps? I’m just genuinely wondering.
I hope you feel okay now
to emphasize that this was a literal adult man doing this to minors@@aesthetix3398
As someone with body dysmorphia and social anxiety this is one of my genuine fears, I would never film someone without their permission unless I need footage of a crime or something
I have BDD too and this is the exact reason why I opted for online school rather than in person education. Who knows when I could randomly pop up in someone's video and have them mock me for my appearance
I know how you feel with body dysmorphia. It also terrifies me knowing that I could end up in a video seen by many, with them easily tearing me apart for their amusement. I don't know how I could ever recover from that. It's disgusting how so many internet users forget empathy.
I understand how hard it is to live with body dysmorphia-I wish you nothing but the best
Literally same. I already worry people are looking at me and judging me let alone filming me and millions of ppl seeing it’s so uncomfortable
aaaghh I feel the same way. i wish people would grasp the concept that not everyone is for their amusement, its so uncomfortable
i also have really bad social anxiety and being filmed in public is literally like my worst fear😭😭 i swear someone will pull out their phone and even if theres a slight chance they could be filming me, like the phones kind of facing my direction, i’ll panic and look away. absolutely hate how normalized this has become mostly because of dumb people on tiktok
2:46 can we talk about how good the friend was to shelter her friend and high five the dude to get him to go away that was so sweet
Its all "support mental health" until someone has a mental breakdown, then people film and make fun of them
it’s all “support mental health” until literally any aspect of it isn’t sanitized and cute
as soon as you actually stop masking and reveal symptoms of your mental illness, it's "ew, not like that, freak".
The people who would do that never supported Mental Health in the first place, until it comes to a time when someone made them feel sad and they made a series of 5 tiktoks about it.
Just like the "THAT motherf--ker is NOT real" plane situation. People made fun of here and bullied her online relentlessly when she probably already was traumatized from that situation.
@@cyan1721Or maybe people shouldn't invade people's privacy?
I am really grateful that it’s a punishable in Europe, as everyone has the right to privacy and that even in public. Filming strangers is weird enough but posting children is so weird and dangerous
I like this as an American, but one quick question. Is it legal to film someone threatening you or doing harm to you or your property?
Key word is public
Yeah I completely agree children should never be allowed to be filmed! I don't even think their parents should be allowed to post photos and videos of their children. But I do see the downsides to both sides of the issue. Because in America you are allowed to be filmed in public because you are in public and there is no expectation of privacy. But you cannot be filmed in the privacy of your own home because there is an expectation of privacy. And in Europe how will you know if politicians are doing something terrible or if your police are doing something terrible? Or what if your neighbor is harassing someone. It does keep people accountable knowing that IF they choose to behave badly in public or choose to do something illegal or corrupt it will be filmed. The question is which is worth more? Which is more valuable? Protecting people's privacy even when public or keeping people accountable for their actions? And I think it depends on who you are the answer to that question. I have my own personal opinions but I don't know if there is a right answer to that question. Aside from filming children. That should be illegal if you're in public and it should be illegal for the parents to post it publicly and I think everyone can agree on that.
@@ItMeJayBI’d have to assume no unless it’s surveillance video on private property. Otherwise you’d have to commit a crime to avoid becoming a victim of a crime
@javanboyd it's allowed on your property. And if sw threatens you it should be fine, you're collecting evidence
Imagine being so shockingly co-dependent on others that even the sight of someone being by themselves in public makes you depressed
Literally!!
most of them aren’t even actually sad about seeing it they just want to virtue signal about how kind they supposedly are for “caring”
@@cosmosisrosekind of reminds me of that thing people say. “I never liked _______, but now I’m sad because they are gone.” or “I hated him but he didn’t deserve to go”
Like dude we get it, you’re a such a good person for feeling empathy 🙄. Idk if I’m overreacting but that’s just kind of how it feels to me lmao.
fr. it's so incredibly condescending 😑
Yes. And as someone who prefers solitude and is anti-social, I get a lotttt of people everyday at work asking if I’m okay or people trying to strike up a conversation out of awkwardness or pity. Like no, I’m not depressed or sad or having a rough time. No I’m not tired. I actually quite enjoy my life and this is the happiest I’ve ever been. But the thought that someone can be genuinely happy and still prefer solitude/not be smiley all the time is perplexing to everyone. They don’t even believe me when I say I’m fine or okay. “Well I’m here for you, just to let you know”. This shit has been happening my whole life. Leave me alone.
Not only is it really poor etiquette to film other people without their consent, it can be super super dangerous too. Their faces being put on the internet could literally be a death sentence for them. Please stop filming strangers. Sincerely, someone who has lived with a domestic abuse survivor whose ex was a very dangerous person.
Oh fuck youre right
FR I ALWAYS THINK WHAT IF SOMEONE ESCAPED AN ABUSIVE SITUATION AND THEN BAM YOUR FACE IS PUT ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT , fucking awful. Good job for getting out of there tho!❤
Exactly. And people shouldn't even need to know about someone's whole life story to understand basic ethics, but here we are
as someone with a service dog, I get filmed - without my consent- almost every day. people often get **mad** at me when I ask them to stop. It’s so fucking unhinged.
People really don't know how to mind their own business, huh?
im so sorry about that. it disgusts me how people love to record us people with disablities/mental disabilities/disorders etc the most. its so disgusting and it fuels my paranoia and agoraphobia. i hope one day itll at least die down if not completely end for good..
It's so stupid. I've also been photographed without consent.
These kinds of people just expect you to go along with everything they want, so you need to crack down hard and threaten to sue them if necessary.
Same thing happens with me and my service dog all the time
Kurtis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging..
It's legitimately insane to me that people think laws that protect people's privacy is a violation of THEIR freedom to violate other people's spaces
Pretty much what every american says when you say you dont want to be filmed 😂😂😂
"Its my right" lol "dont tread on my freedom"
YEAH THAT WAS SO INSANE TO ME???? I WAS SHOCKED AT THE IRONY OF THAT STATEMENT
@@classmst89Have no fear, plenty of normal Americans around, we just don’t spend our time filming strangers
it reminds me of how some ppl say their freedom of speech is being discriminated by not being allowed to discriminate others.
@@tomatochemist got plenty of american frriends, even enjoyed living their for a while haha, but for every 1 normal american there seems to be 2 crazies posting online 🤣
I was lucky to never have a face to face with one of the crazies 🤣
As someone with autism and a lot of anxiety issues, it was infuriating to see people call the person who was crying “racist” for not high fiving the guy. If you have a brain at all you can tell they move and responds like that because of anxiety. Nothing to do with him specifically, it’s pretty clear it’s their own personal stuff. It was heartbreaking hearing the sister have to explain all these medical diagnoses to the world. I felt so terrible for them. 😢
Me too, I had been getting more comfortable going into public spaces but that video and the aftermath genuinely had a lasting impact on my confidence :/
ikr i have contamination ocd and i immediately recognized the way they reacted to someone touching them it’s fucking awful that they were filmed because i know i would feel embarrassed even though it’s out of my control
@@iBackTheBluewooooow, didn’t know people were saying that.
I had a waiter come up behind me, put his hand on my shoulder and ask how my food was directly in my ear and I legitimately screamed, because I have PTSD. I was so embarrassed, everyone was staring at me, I just needed to get out of there before I had a panic attack. The waiter felt bad but like DON'T TOUCH PEOPLE, especially from behind! It seems innocuous to people who are lucky enough to not have that type of trauma, but when did we start thinking this was ok? Kids have been taught forever, "keep your hands to yourself" but these social lessons seem to disappear when those kids grow up.
Yeah her physical recoil into the group reminded me of how I acted when I was recovering from agoraphobia. It can diminish your sense of control in a situation when you have anxiety, which makes shit worse. Love how people are so supportive of mental health until people show symptoms
as an autistic person & victim of SA (who doesn't have OCD) i would have also been incredibly stressed in response to a stranger touching me in public. being in a crowd like that is already stressful enough, but being filmed for a tiktok, singled out, touched, & propositioned by a stranger, i would've had a strong reaction as well. especially knowing that, more often than not, advocating for yourself by declining consent results in mockery.
& for the record, if that had happened to me, i probably would have instinctively (not intentionally) whacked their hand away from me. i do *not* accept physical contact from strangers (accidental bumps not included, they are clearly in a crowd) & it results in me being on high alert. respecting other people's boundaries can keep you safe too.
i didn't have any questions in regards to their reaction in the video. nobody should've needed an explanation.
YEAH NO FOR REAL. I don't have OCD and haven't gone through SA, i'm just autistic but i have EXTREMELY SEVERE sensory issues because of it. People touching me is a major one, to the point where most of the time i can't even handle my own mother touching me. I flinch away and stuff, as well as i've hit her hands away before because I didn't fully register it as her. If a stranger touched me- ESPECIALLY MY SKIN LIKE IN THE VIDEO- i would end up slapping their hand away. And if they had anything oily or something on their hands it would be 10x worse for me.
Same here. I hate being touched and i was SAd so now i have to be paranoid of random people touching me if i leave my house. I probably wouldnt cry cuz im lower on the spectrum but i would get really upset and stressed and i dont think its okay or fair that i have to be afraid everytime i want to leave my house of someone filming me or violating my personal space. Ugh
A lot of photography laws and rules in Japan are also to protect people from being _sexually harassed_ so 🙄 we should have those
That would probably help fight revenge porn too
Yes oml! - that reminds me of this one tiktok I saw where this white guy was about to get on a train in Japan, and he's complaining about the female-only 😐
@@Altruistic_Hall I think I saw the video you're talking about where he literally goes in the women only car and sure he was only in there for a little bit but is it worth it to make strangers uncomfortable even for a minute? the women only cars in Japan exist so women can avoid creepy men. and the dude had the audacity to say "I wasn't expecting to see segregation like this in Japan" in the description, showing he has no idea why women-only cars exist and no respect for the people who use those cars
True, but tbh Japan is still far from perfect 😉
EDIT: LMFAOO I commented this before realizing kurtis included this in the video 😂😅 whoops
y’all seen the woman on Twitter who had a nuclear meltdown over being deported from Japan because she photographed so many strangers to make fun of on her account?? it was the same lady who photographed a white couple on the train and joked about them being big bang theory fans if y’all at least saw that one
I really feel like this is a big reason why young ppl are so much more hyper self aware and anxiety ridden than previous generations. Social media is intruding on our lives
I’m a dance teacher and I definitely agree! Especially when it comes to my middle school and high school students, I can only imagine how on edge they must be in school 😣
Older generations only had to worry about being judged by their town or neighbourhood, younger generations are worrying about being judged by the whole world. If older people were being judged they could move a couple towns over and start again, younger people have the potential that people across the whole world could be judging them and no matter where they move they might find someone who knows them and judges them.
And honestly this just shows that we shouldn't have those social media pages tho as much as I use TH-cam myself and as long as it's here I'll watch stuff or whatever it's not helping us as a whole at all
I was relentlessly bullied at school, and one of the things my bullies used to do a lot was take pictures and videos of me without me knowing and sending them to each other on BBM and Facebook. That, among other things, left me with PTSD and severe anxiety, and while therapy has thankfully helped me take my life back I still get a jolt everytime I see someone smiling at their phone while using it in front of me. I can't imagine what it must be like for younger people now given how much more widespread social media has become - back in the day I at least knew my pictures wouldn't get out of my bullies' circle, but now anyone could go viral at any point. It really, really sucks.
Back in college (2010) I had this irrational fear of uploading pictures to the internet because I though I would become a meme, like Scumbag Steve or Bad Luck Brian, and people would make fun of me forever. Thankfully Facebook was very limited back then, and going viral took more effort.
However, with TikTok, I feel for kids with anxiety today. Being made fun of online (and against your will) is way more prevalent now.
My gym put up signs saying filming is prohibited and you will lose your membership if you’re caught. Last week this chick filmed herself ripping up the signs and making a scene and then was SHOCKED that her membership was being revoked
"Consequences? For *my* actions??"
absolute chad gym owner
Good to know there are good gyms and gym owners out there.
my brother got filmed in line at McDonalds and we were going to a wedding, so he was in a tux and a lady was filming him and he asked them to stop but they said "sheesh Karen" my brother has anxiety, so he was having a panic attack in the car so this video makes me feel he had justice
They act like they’ve never seen a man get dressed up for McDonald’s 🙄 gotta get fancy for Ronald yk?
Anyways sorry that happened to your brother I hope those people got their karma and hope he’s doing well 🫶
“sheesh karen” is the most aggravating thing ive ever heard
He’s doing a lot better now and has therapy So it’s great Ty for all the likes that’s very sweet of you
Don't go out in public if you can't handle it.
@@FuzzyWalrus123 exactly. If you can't handle people telling you of for your bullshit like filming them without consent, don't go out
Japan has such strong laws against filming people in public because of creeps taking pictures of women and young girls
When the place that outlawed C.P. in 2014 has better public filming laws than your country:
Disgusting. What is with Japanese culture sexualizing little girls and women? And I'm not saying it has anything to do with race, it's the culture of Japan itself. Anime in particular seems to obsessively sexualize children and women, and it's normalized seeing them as sex objects in real life. It's truly disturbing, I've never seen anything else like it.
@@meowmew444Japan is far from the only country to do this
You aren't even allowed to be noisy in trains, so no phone calls there nor public performace inside the train cars
I absolutely adore this, my country's National Railway are copying this and made Commuting much MUCH more relaxing even with heavy traffic.
@@meowmew444 You'd be surprised to know that Beauty Pageants exists everywhere else, bud
i’m from germany and over here it’s actually illegal to film strangers without their permission due to privacy laws, like it’s a thing that’s taken really seriously so it always baffles me how reckless people are about it in other places
America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅 /j
I am jealous of your privacy laws. For as much as Americans complain about “right to privacy” it’s virtually nonexistent here.
brb moving to germany (especially since they don’t let people publicly be nazis afaik unlike america)
I mean, it is, but it can only really be enforced if you know that someone filmed you and, sadly, we don't have 360 degree vision.
@@__m-a-x__ what right is that part of? which amendment?
As someone who has worked in retail and has been filmed, it can lead to stalking and can allow stalkers to gain more “fuel”. Please respect people’s privacy.
It can also alert abusive family members to someone’s location.
This is absolutely no joke!! It actually happened to me. I worked as a greeter sometimes for American Eagle and this man would constantly record me (as in i was always in the background) but no one said anything or did anything when i mentioned that i was uncomfortable, because “he’s probably just making a tik tok” it got to the point where when i was walking out to my car, he walked a couple paces behind me. I luckily got in my car safely that day, but after that I always had security escort me out. It’s been years since that, but it went on for about 3 months and all of a sudden I never saw him again. I also have moved states since then so i think i’m safe.
And it just feels super gross, some lady took a photo of me at work once and I hated it but also felt like I “ought” to be nice to customers so I didn’t say anything because I never thought that something like that would happen, now I would be ready to tell that person to stop
@@fleuroseaDude I once took the picture of an inside of a boba shop just to flex the fact that I was getting boba for the first time to my friends, I intentionally shifted the angle of the photo so the worker wouldn't be in it. I don't understand why people do this.
Side note, my brother who I love who I also hate though, immediately went "she took a picture of you!!!" to the worker and I will never, never stop being salty at him for it 😭 THAT WAS SO EMBARRASSING
This! I had a guy that came into my work every day and even knew what car I drove. He took pictures of me and even posted a picture he took of me in my uniform from behind. I was 17.
As someone who wears headphones in public a lot,a content creator coming up to me and asking “what song are you listening to?” Is my worse fear
I'm glad Kurtis clarified at the end that filming cops is a different story altogether, but I think it's important to note as well that none of this applies to dangerous or potentially violent situations. Film perpetrators and protect yourself, people
Exactly, sousveilance is the one exception.
I do think there is a difference between filming people and uploading it tho. Like collect as much evidence as you need but i‘m gonna question your motives if you immediately upload it.
100%.
@Sisi-ep3wn I think it's 100% fine to upload videos of people hurting people/ cops hurting people/ etc. That's what gets the word out and something can potentially be done about it.
@@casie6609 If you can't get justice any other way then of course. But in general I do believe that bad people/criminals have a right to privacy as well. At least that's the law in my country. The press is not allowed to show the faces or publish the full names of criminals, as far as I know.(except if they are public figures of course)
“If you aren’t comfortable asking for permission to do it, you aren’t mature enough to do it” is sometimes said about other activities, but truly needs to be applied to filming strangers
Ask for permission? How exactly
@@Industry-insider literally “hey, can I film you for a video I’m making?” Or “hey, do you want to be in this video?” The actual words are simple, not everyone has the guts. All it is is asking for consent.
@SauceM3
Try using words. It's not hard.
I remember seeing a video of a girl filming herself at the gym and a guy came and used the treadmill next to her. She told him she was recording, and he immediately apologized and offered to leave. She said he didnt have to and she was telling him to ask if he's ok being filmed. Everyone should do this.
omg yess it was one of the youtube fitness influencers. Naomi Kong maybe?
I see a lot fitness influencers starting to do this, but the ones who say no thanks, or leave the frame after being informed, are still left in the video…
Yes!! nataleebfitness is such a good example of how to film in public
@Alex-zp3kxhis names Kurtis you dumb flip
People who film in gyms should be kicked out automatically. Especially given the amount of extremely fatphobic content that comes out of gyms.
As a person with social anxiety as well as just ocd, I've dealt with the intrusive thought that everybody is looking at me practically my entire life
It's so difficult to break through this fear when it's very possible for somebody to take something I did or said out of context and make it bad.
Yeah....sometimes I struggle with sitting because I'm so afraid of pedophiles looking at me :(
About the girl that got deported from Japan - she was filming dozens of people, that was her main content on Twitter/X. Japan has laws against filming people in public/taking photos of strangers and sharing them publicly without their consent. If they’re recognizable, it’s illegal.
Days after she posted that couple on the train, she also posted photos and videos of people outside hanging out at night and claimed that all these people (tourist, foreigners, etc) were here solely looking for prostitutes (which is a gross assumption, and it’s gross to publicly claim that about people that can be easily identified). In the same few hours she also filmed a small group of teens in their uniforms just sitting outside the convience store eating snacks who she publicly claimed were being “harassed” by police. The police were there because Japan has a curfew for minors, and they were being told to head home because it was like 12am or so. They weren’t harassing them at all. She also made remarks about these kids “looking to sell themselves”, which again is a gross thing to claim about minors who can be identified in that footage.
She was a gross mess and people were right to report her enough that it got her looked into and deported.
We need laws like that in the US
@@peanutbutter4435 I agree. Invasion of privacy is rapidly increasing with the clout addiction epidemic. As a very paranoid person who has always struggled with the crippling fear that my every move is being recorded (think of the Truman Show), these people make it very hard for me to want to leave the house. It is terrifying and so disabling (as I already struggle with disorders and disabilities). That weirdo asshat who filmed the strangers in Japan was clearly trying so hard to act "PC" and "woke" that she ended up doing the complete opposite... what a world we live in!
@@peanutbutter4435there are curfews in some states in the us-or at least i know there’s one in texas. i think that’s it in regards to these laws, though
I believe, the reason why japan has so strict laws about public photography, especially in trains is because of all the incel peepers which went there to take naughty skirt pics. It became a real problem in the 2000's.
@@hyperturbotechnomikeno it wasn‘t just foreigners, it was majority wise japanese (older) men. It‘s sadly part of their culture which needs to be talked about more, yet won‘t since japanese people tend to be obedient because of societal expectations that are highly looked upon.
Medic here - I have been filmed while attempting to resuscitate someone's loved one who was in cardiac arrest. Forget me, the disrespect to my patients and their families during that moment is unbelievable. That should not be normalised.
Some people just cant read the room.
i’ve seen a crowd of people standing dead eyed filming a car that was on fire with officials trying to help. i was pulling into work and it was honestly haunting to look at. you couldn’t even see anyone’s face but the idea that possibly filming someone’s last moments wasn’t bothering any of them was horrifying.
@@mekenna6214it’s so strange to think of the world we live in now
One time i was at the beach and a guy went into cardiac arrest and everybody (about 40 people) stood there recording while the paramedics attempted to resuscitate him on the sand. Their kids were recording. He died.
This happened at the resturaunt i worked at. someone was haing diabetic shock and heat stroke on the side of this narrow road. People kept blocking the one lane we had to get the ambulance in to hang halfway out the windows and film on their phones. I would calmly ask them to leave so the ambulance could get in and theyd flip me off and then drive away.
The fact they now give warnings on airplanes saying 'hey. don't film staff or passengers without consent' is CRAZY to me!
yeah it’s crazy but after all the airplane karen’s ive seen, i’d prob wanna record too😭
idk seems very reasonable
Only the government can spy and film us on our cellphones. We aren’t allowed to film.. we are peasants and our 1st amendment rights don’t matter
@@hoveringvan9961They’re not saying the announcement and rule is crazy, they’re saying it’s crazy it has to be a formal rule in the first place. They are in support of people not filming strangers.
@@starmookk Honestly, some Karens are definitely entitled brats but a whole lot of the "Karen meltdown" vids I've seen are just someone clearly having some kind of mental health episode. Would you want your lowest mental state documented and put on blast for the entire world? So that it can circulate even if you come out of it and get the help you need? These people deserve some level of privacy too even if they're acting completely out of pocket
kurtis is the most passive agressive, yet understanding and kind person ever. i would let kurtis convince me my deadly dairy allergy isnt real.
Being filmed without my consent scares the f out of me. My ex once came home with an anxiety attack because he thought a group of young women/girls were filming him in public transport and laughing at him but he wasn't sure. Dude was shaking. He's got anxiety disorder, severe social anxiety and strangers taking pictures of him and laughing was quite literally his biggest fear.
Some people are so into themselves, they forget other people have whole lives, just as interesting and just as complicated as their own.
I understand how your ex feels, my boyfriend was taking his mum's dog for a walk and the dog did her business, so obviously he had a poop bag and cleaned up after the dog. While doing it a group of young girls laughed and filmed him. It was insane.
Lol im so sure
Right! I am neurodivergent and have bad days where a culmination of factors make me very sensitive to stimuli. It’s hard enough going out, TikTok and the never ending thirst for clout had made me even more afraid of people. Like my hands aren’t doing well so I’m wearing ponytail extensions instead of braids and my first thought stepping out was, “What if someone comes and tries to snatch off my ponytail for a TikTok prank video?” 😑 Like dude, people should not have to worry about this sort of sh*t.
I never really understood paranoia induced anxiety attacks until one horrifying experience. I took what I assumed was a normal ecstasy pill at a music festival but it was laced with something weird and had a really bad reaction to it (my fault I know).
It was an on site camping festival (Coachella) and while I was alone in my tent that night I convinced myself that the conversation our neighbors were having was about them conspiring to dump an ice chest full of water into my tent because I thought I had somehow inadvertently offended them during my delusion (I hadn't and they weren't). I swore I heard them secretly talking crap about me and formulating their revenge so I spent the whole night half hunched over awkwardly standing in the middle of the tent waiting for them to do it until the literal sun came up. I even thought I heard them asking a security guard for permission to harass me based on what I had done to them. It was really bad.
I didn't fully snap out of it until I tried to explain to my friend why I was so upset that following morning and he looked seriously concerned for my mental wellbeing. Luckily by then the effects had mostly warn off so I was slowly able to recognize that what I experienced was all in my head thank God.
Just because my situation was drug induced doesn't mean otherwise sober people don't suffer from these nightmarish delusions. It is so real to you when you're in that state that it's absolutely frightening. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
"Sonder - noun. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own."
A word you don't see very often, but I've always loved the meaning
I feel like empathy and social awareness is no longer a thing anymore. How hard is it to think, “oh this person has their own unique experience of life and I shouldn’t judge them by one video.”
actually tho i feel like i’m the crazy one now
Selection bias, every sociopathic narrsisist is already on social media. And people who are not are less likely to make social media
im pretty sure theyre predicting our gen (gen z) will become the least empathetic people in thr world because of the way we grew up and the situations we have grown up with (aka covid etc)
Especially the people immediately slamming that one autistic kid… like I’m autistic and I’m told I am a robot, or lack empathy, and then those same people turn around and destroy a stranger for the way their brain is wired
That’s a good thing. People are accepting reality more. The girl who was touched by the dancer has no right to complain about it, because that’s not a normal human reaction. Just because you have a disability doesn’t mean everyone else has to stop what they’re doing and suck it up and owe it to you.
The other day, someone on my college campus uploaded a video to the university public Snapchat story zooming into someone's dorm window to record them dancing to Just Dance or something like that... it was so unsettling, a total invasion of privacy. I think Curtis really captured the problem in this video. Some people forget that other people are real, not just NPCs.
I will say I feel like this is on a different level then just getting filmed in public. when you’re in public you expect to see people filming and stuff. But think you’re in your dorm room in your own privacy and somebody is filming you through the window. that’s stalker shit
@@saigefisher5348Absolutely.
@ville2_ imagine having so much time on ur hands you make a fake account go to multiple videos and comment the same thing under each one of them💀take that time to grow up.
@@saigefisher5348it's a bot don't answer just report
@@saigefisher5348 These bots are overstaying their welcome.
i live in CONSTANT paranoia of being filmed. the girls at my school film tiktoks so much and i have to cover my face and dash past the camera in fear that i’ll be tracked and get unwanted attention from literally thousands of people💀💀
@annistar9693this made me chuckle
I'm SO glad you made this video. I'm autistic and I'm terrified that I'll accidentally do something weird in public and someone will film me and it'll go viral. I ended up getting diagnosed with agoraphobia two years ago and I'm at the point now where I can't even open my blinds or go out onto my balcony anymore. I miss feeling comfortable in the world.
Wow I relate. I never open my curtains out of fear that someone could just sit and watch me
thats not recording, thats just humanity warped to its core for capitalism, eyeballs get the advertisers money, look at trump and elon musk - 2 of the worst of humankind that would surely make fun of you and talk shit about you based on a video or picture, and they get tons of money and power and idiot fans to tell them how great they are, and everyday they use their positions to troll and lie and make fun of people like teenaged bullies.
Fr tho
I'm also terrified of eating in public (and in front of people) for the same reason.
This isn't normal? I'm autistic and my curtains are always closed.
Maybe you've got agoraphobia too@@electricay
crazy how consent just doesn’t matter to so many people it’s horrifying
many ppl use laws to overshadow their morals. i criticized this poster for filming girls on the beach and all the ppl replying just said it's not illegal as if that makes it ok
@@uniqueswift4480yup it’s called positive law, as long as an act is “legal” some people see no problem with it which is a very dangerous way of thinking considering situations like this or even worse, the fact that child marriage is legal in 41 states so it must be “moral” 😀
@@uniqueswift4480Oh goodness, I found so many people like that in the comments of this very video!
Like, just because it's legal where they live, that automatically makes it okay for everyone
Frrr
@@1chillychangor the fact that slavery is still technically legal in some capacity in the usa
This video is so, so important. I say this as an autistic person who was flimed having a shutdown at work without my consent a couple of months ago. It's so genuinely terrifying to think that someone could be filming you, and take the clip out of context and put it on tiktok for the whole world to see.
Are you alright? That sounds absolutely horrible to have went through.
@@softiesoftie561 Yeah, I'm fine, but I never taught that class again, and the students who did it were suspended, so at least some form of justice was dealt.
@@arachne4070 just quit your job to be quite honest. The teachers are definitely making fun of you behind your back, and if they aren’t than the student certainly are. How are you supposed to cultivate a relationship of respect with any of them now?? You’ve shown your mental weakness to adolescents. What a fool you’ve been. Children are sociopaths. Now they’re just going to want to try to solve the puzzle of how to make you have another break down. What kind of bullshit did they teach you at the school where you got your degree that makes you eligible to teach if they didn’t even teach you about the psychology of adolescents??
i am TERRIFIED of being filmed having a meltdown or a panic attack. i'm usually able to hold it off a little until i can be alone but i'm scared that one day i won't be able to and i'll get posted on social media to be made fun of. the way people are so self-centered is pathetic tbh
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I'm currently working on a college research paper on this topic and using your video as a way to find specific examples of the Filming Strangers In Public epidemic, so thanks Kurtis!!
I feel like this comment makes it seem like I found your video while researching the topic-- nah I've been watching your channel since I was like 13. I actually chose the topic for my paper after watching your video. So thanks for that too Kurtis
Same! Except it isn't for college.
Being photographed/filmed in public is genuinely one of my biggest fears. I’ve had nightmares about some photo of me going viral and the entire world making nasty comments about my appearance. I can’t believe this type of behavior is considered socially acceptable nowadays.
Fwiw just know that none of what others say reflects on you. The people who partake in these types of posts are a bunch of chronically online no life losers who think getting a bunch of likes equals achievement. Twitter is a weird place and warped af at this point.
I hate sharing pictures of myself and i even despise the fact that my mother has childood photos.
It makes me unconfortable the fact that my photos might be somewhere online.
Same! Being extremely aware that some teenager might film, post and make fun of me online makes me super anxious 🙃
@@laurenvcouto I. get anxiety just thinking people at my school even recognize me or know my name and im constantly scared that strangers are judging my clothes and appearence. I really dont need my face shared whit anybody.
or my name
Happened to me once. Some Highschool kid took my picture on the bus, and send it to one of his friends, making fun of my face. As if I didn't already feel ugly enough
yesterday I saw a woman dressed really cool, with blonde curly hair and I sooo wanted to draw her because she looked like a main character from a movie. So my girlfriend walked up to her and said in a nutshell: "hello, sorry to bother you, but you are really pretty. Would you mind if I took a picture of you so we could draw you later?" And she then gave us her number and name so we could send her the drawing later. Consent is key, even in public space. plus, it could make someones day better.
i went to six flags and one of the scare actors had a beautiful spider costume with a long dress and webbing details, and i politely asked if i could take a picture to show my boyfriend her costume. she was so sweet and said "of course!" and did a pose showing off the sleeves and it was a lovely interaction. it only took like five seconds to ask and the photo looked even better because she posed to show off the outfit!
Weird.
@@PoopNukerwhat is?
I really liked my coworker’s outfit the other day and I asked her if I could take a picture of her in that outfit because I wanted to draw it and she said yes. Consent is necessary.
Yo if someone said this to me I think it would single-handedly obliterate my bad mental health lol
imagine being an elderly person just trying to enjoy a sandwich or something and you look up and some teenager is filming you and crying 💀
PLS LMAOO
I'm setting my mind up to be an old man and having a cane, even if I don't need it, and freaking bonk them away! 😂
Fun fact if you buy a phone in Japan they have the camera shutter sound and you CAN NOT TURN IT OFF AT ALL! They do this for privacy reasons so if you are going to take a photo people will know!
I know creeper upskirt photos have been an issue there (ESPECIALLY on public transportation) so…
I can see that as a contributing factors
We need more people like Kurtis calling people out when it comes to filming people in public. The internet is allowing it to become normalized and its weird.
Problem is everytime its an american they go on about it being their right to film anyone and telling them otherwise is taking away their freedom 😂
Japan has a huge issue with women being photographed inappropriately and no consent. Japan phones don't even let you turn off the shutter sound.
I dunno if I fever dreamed this but I remember i saw a video of a man taking a picture of a woman’s underskirt in Japan where he forgot that his phone made the shutter sound. It was so sad on the woman’s part. I hope he still live with that and that he paid 😢
@@firefly_the_rescue9308i mean that does happen frequently in japan, there are even signs warning women that men take advantage of train settings to take pictures. Absolutely disgusting
Not only Japanese phones actually. If you go to Japan, your phone will automatically disable that option. The sound is very loud too. It's a good protection of course, but it can be annoying when you want to respect the calm of certain places.
@@gugusalpha2411that's not true
@@ikeshi How that? The fact that phones automatically disable the silent photo? I mean I've experienced it myself. Though it might be because my phone was a Sony, idk
I’m autistic and there’s always the background fear that someone will film me in public for being “weird” or “cringe” just for living my life. It sucks so much. I would also probably freak out if a random stranger grabbed me and tried to get me to high five them. I’m constantly worried about people deciding I’m weird or overreacting when I’m reality I’m just a person who doesn’t like to be touched. Regardless of if I’m autistic or not I shouldn’t have to be ok with random people touching me
same it's always in the back of my mind when i go in public
same, its already happened to me a couple times at school other than general bullying, i had to drop out right when i turned 16. why cant people treat us like fucking human beings??
As a fellow spicy-brain, I feel very seen by this comment.
SAME and my autism already makes me petrified to leave the house so this fear just adds to it. It sucks that we have to worry about stuff like this why can’t ppl just mind their own business :( Like I feel like the internet has made ppl forget about boundaries and also that the people around them have feelings
I don’t have an autism diagnosis but this has always been such a fear of mine as well…. Constantly imagining what I’m doing like I’m watching myself in third person lmao
As someone who escaped an abusive relationship with my mother at a young age and spent the majority of my childhood being terrified of being in any kind of picture on the chance that it'd be posted and the abuser could use that to find me, yeah, maybe don't film and post online about complete strangers.
you know i just realised my best friend is in a very similar situatuion and considering were both goth.....im gonna keep an eye out now. im so sorry you had to go through that, i hope youre safe
As someone with ASD, i am so scared of someone filming me in a moment where I am not masking well enough, and being labeled as a bad person
I'm sorry that this has to be something you worry about, I am disabled myself and my sister is on the spectrum and I'm so worried one day she will have a meltdown at school and some unsavory individual will record her and post it... she would be so upset about that and I hope it never happens to her or you or anyone really.
same dude
Yeah I'm a weird person, I've got several diagnoses and my anxiety is definitely worse knowing I could go viral if some spots me just living my life. I talk to myself under my breath, i do repetitive motions, i speak in a stilted way, I have some phobias, you get the picture. Well I used to also softly sing along to music playing in stores and do some (very awkward looking) dancing. I try to never relax in public now I try and be completely silent and have still hands. Before I was a weird person who still felt relatively comfortable in public and now I'm essentially a shut in
i just don't mask anymore and if other ppl get mad its their problem, i get to be happy and they're mad :)))
this is so fucking real.
I'm autistic and have contamination OCD as well (though mine is food-related) and honestly my heart goes out to the person in that video. Being autistic in public is hard enough, and OCD is one hell of a disorder. I hope they're doing okay :(
also, to anyone who says "but that's not a rational response to being touched!" when have mental health issues like OCD ever been rational? that's the whole point of OCD. Also, autism can make being touched especially suddenly and/or by strangers extremely distressing. even if the person in the video wasn't autistic, it should still be expected not to touch people without consent.
EXACTLY!! thank god kurtis didnt show the comments of the person's sister's video, bc im 100% expecting someone to say "ok but they didnt have to cry abt it" and it wouldve made me so pissed as someone whos got that all my life for my disorders. like.. DID U NOT WATCH HER VIDEO??
im really tired of people going "just because you have [insert mental disorder] doesnt mean you can [insert literal symptom of mental disorder]" like. them crying doesnt affect you??? ppl are so weird.
Yes!!! I have OCD and contamination isn’t one of my obsessions, but I have plenty and they can absolutely make you do things that don’t seem “normal” to people without OCD. It’s genuinely not something I’d wish on the worst person in the world, and the way people minimize it kills me.
@@lemonmeat ugh yes!! "it's not an excuse" is one of my least favourite phrases ever because it's used to invalidate people with mental disorders / neurodivergency and demonise the bad symptoms, because you're only allowed to be autistic if you mask well, and you're only allowed to be depressed if you're still tidy and clean, and you're only allowed to have the "OCD" that means you like your pens in the right order (🙄) otherwise you're clearly just making excuses to be a failure. "It's an explanation, not an excuse" an excuse is just an explanation you don't like lmao, mental illness and neurodivergency isn't just cute and quirky and masked for everyone's convenience all the time and quite frankly we wish above ANYONE ELSE that we weren't this way too - it isn't a choice.
Autistic person here as well! I make your words mine.
I hate being touched by strangers, so much that when my father died during 2020 I was glad there was a pandemic so no one could touch me to "help" or "calm" me.
Yes, it's horrible. No, it's not humor. That's exactly what I thought while they cremated my father. It was awful.
I'm able to handle strangers touching me when I'm ok, but when I'm not... oh boy, it's a finger to make me meltdown hard.
She shouldn't be in large groups of people if she can't handle being touched. People bump into people, or need to get your attention for one reason or another. You can't have conditions like that and force everyone around you to change especially when your putting yourself in the line of danger.
As someone who was filmed by classmates repeatedly in middle school, I appreciate you calling this out. This was something that I just kind of had to deal with it on my own, because even the person who told me it was happening just said to "stop acting so weird, and maybe they'll stop filming you."
(Weird behavior I was doing: playing on playground equipment).
I’m so sorry :( people are so mean
This is why my school doesn’t allow photography or filming
wooooah woah... hold up... you were _playing_ ... on _play_ ground equipment? nah thats totally a weird thing to do (joke)
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯lmao that's actually wild
They was just bored and lacking a moral compass. Simple as
As someone who recently had an anxiety attack on the bus over a random person snapping a pic of me, I can't even IMAGINE how stressful having your face on tik tok for thousands to see would be
Same thing happened to me, i was at a bus stop and these dudes started clicking pictures and I turned away immediately and got out of there but i was so anxious. Even now I think back at it and i feel scared because of these stupid ai stuff like deep fake scares me to the core. It's so creepy and scary
I’m a nurse and you would not believe how often we have to tell grown adults that they can’t film us without permission. I completely respect that they are going through something intense and might want to document, but nurses are just regular people who deserve privacy!
it must suck. i was on facetime with my mom once and a nurse walked in and then she yelled at ME about recording her even tho.. i wasn’t. so i thought it must happen quite a bit if she just assumed that was happening 😭
Really? Way more often I see nurses filming patients or just making quirky videos about their condition without their consent.
when my dad was in the hospital, we had a nurse that was really handsome and my sister and i acknowledged it. my mom secretly filmed him and we both told her how it was illegal and that she’s a freak for doing that but she sees nothing wrong with it bc filming strangers is so normalized in her home country
@@melly7174where is she from?
@@k80_ Yeah, that's definitely another problem. I've talked to paramedics who collect photos of gnarly or unusual injuries, and I'm just like, "how did you get this person's permission when all their bones are falling out and they're on fire?" There can be a lot of conversation during an ambulance ride, so I like to HOPE that they do have consent for those photos, but IDK man, I think I'll stick to drawing as my hobby and focus on shoving those fire bones back into place when I'm on the clock as an EMT.
There are SO many laws and regulations about patient privacy. So many.
I was working a box office gig, and when I have downtime, I'll blast music and sing. A family came up to my window, and I apologized for being distracted. The dad said. "That's OK! I'm making you into a youtube star!" I told him, 'please don't. ' to which he responded, "I don't need your consent," while smiling.
One of the most gross customer service experiences of my life. How do you justify that, and in front of your kids no less.
"I don't need your consent" WHAT....
The man self reported himself there... what kind of creep says that shit?!
What the hell… that’s reprehensible. I’m sorry that happened!! How gross!!
Jesus that’s creepy
That's so insane. I'd literally deglove that man
As a 27-year-old woman, I LOVE eating alone. I call them my "self-dates". People shouldn't be pitied for treating themselves to dinner and a beer.
On top of that, I used to work as a server, and had a regular who'd come in on Sunday nights. Robert was a jovial older gentleman who just loved his Sunday routine of church, choir practice, and then treating himself to the sunday night special every week while doing the crossword. Let people live!
Same! Going for a meal by myself is amazing! I read, I talk to locals. It’s delightful.
Exactly, as someone who has autism and OCD so can feel overwhelmed sometimes, I love going to eat at a fast food place or restaurant alone after a long day at uni or work and just de-stressing with some great food and peace and quiet.
I love going out for lunch or dinner by myself! Just vibing with the other patrons without having to make conversation is so nice.
I worked at a bar and barbecue when i was 17 as a waitress and they had like local live music like an elderly gentleman who was a fiddle player and I had multiple regulars who are were just nice old men who came off the lake or a long day of blue collar work to listen to a guitar, eat ribs, and drink a beer by themselves but they always enjoyed if i had time to take my dinner/lunch break with them occasionally but it was not the main reason they came to the restaurant. They wanted to treat themselves and be an active part of a society, there was nothing shameful about their behavior and often I find myself missing their vibes because they were all really cool dudes! I now also go out and be a part of a society like they did, if i want a treat from my favorite restaurant or grab a nice drink from the bar by myself its some of the best times I experience in a week.
aro moment /hj
Accounts dedicated to posting strangers nodding off, experiencing drug induced psychosis, or just existing as a chemically dependent person shatter me. I’m a recovering addict who works with recovering addicts and thinking about them being filmed and mocked at their lowest point makes me so angry and sad. It’s dehumanizing, stigmatizing, and disgusting.
im in a photojournalism class and one of the first things they did was stress not to just 'click and run' at strangers but to make an effort to introduce yourself/ask permission. it's slightly awkward, yes, but it's actually respectful and not intrusive af
I've had people ask to photograph me a couple times. I've never had any problems with it when asked, it actually makes the whole encounter come off as a compliment. So, awkward for the photographer yes, but very much appreciated!
I mean it’s way more intrusive to record someone for your content without their consent/knowing haha
I mean it’s way more intrusive to record someone for your content without their consent/knowing haha
Yeah before everyone had camera phones me and some friends went on a road trip with a click camera. We saw a guy who just looked really bad ass and asked if we could take his picture. It was a nice interaction and we got a pretty cool pic. It all took less than a minute to be polite.
yeah fr like, if they were legit about it they’d have some decency…… too bad theyre fuckin clowns
i feel like tiktok has made people so unempathetic especially to people who dress different or don't fit beauty standards. bullying is SO normalized on that app and if you call them out you're just told you're soft. you can't even compliment someone who doesn't fit conventional beauty standards without a squad of 13 year old boys with perms saying you're lying because they can't understand that beauty is subjective
TRUEEEEEE
Also the way cyber bullying isn't even disguised with another word anymore, people will outright say they enjoy bullying people online, they think we should "bring bullying back" or whatever, it's genuine freak behavior
Honestly
THISSSSSS
@@amoureux6502 bullying is genuinely traumatizing and people act like it's no big deal. i've heard so many people say bullying helps people become "normal" or some shit. it's insane that they act like it's their duty to make others feel so insecure that they change themselves and don't see anything wrong with it
I know I wouldn't want to be filmed as well. It's an invasion of privacy. If you want to film someone, secure permission. It's all that simple.
@safoutop10104 You don't deserve 10k followers if you need to beg
This whole mindset of viewing others as NPCs is so toxic, this is another version of that. Low IQ individuals emerged from isolation and fully forgot empathy.
Kurtis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
In the US, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. If the place is open to the public at large, you can absolutely be filmed without your consent.
privacy in public?
my highschool bully used to record me and post it on his private story. he did it to a lot of other less "popular kids" literally altered the trajectory of my life. dont record unconsenting individuals, its fucked up.
same with me, but he took a photo of me and used it as a profile picture for some social media app (don't remember what it was as this happened like 4 years ago)
I am so unbelievably sorry. ❤
As a teenage guy who has worn a dress to school before, I can completely relate. My pictures were everywhere with people making sexual comments about me behind my back. Absolutely traumatizing.
yeah this was a big thing at my secondry. somehow some girl found pictures of my friend at the beach when she was 7 and made an insta to post just those photos. like bruh
this happened to me too!! created someof the worst anxiety I still havent been able to shake
At my high school before I graduated people made Instagram accounts where they took pictures of people around campus to make fun of. There were pages for cringey couples, people who fell asleep in class or on the bus, and people’s posture. It was so terrifying, I’ve never felt more insecure and like I’m being watched. As someone with horrible anxiety I was constantly so worried people were judging me and getting ready to post a picture of me for the school to ridicule.
I hate this trend of feeling entitled to other people’s bodies and reactions to make content off of them. If you’re such a boring person you need to rely on picking on the people around you maybe social media isn’t for you.
That's absolutely horrendous, it's so sad schools are powerless to do anything ☹️ Hopefully things will ease up for you with time and better environments!
Yeah my high school had one of those “shoes of people using bathroom stalls” accounts. So in the place you’re supposed to have the most privacy everyone is farming for content.
Same.. I had lost a lot of weight and rushing forgot my belt and a picture of my ass crack in a thong landed on there and I was humiliated. It took a lot to embarrass me but that Fuckin did it
my highschool had those pages too
We gotta normalize being out on our own. At any age. Travelling alone, hanging out by ourselves, it's healthy and important.
Literally all of the creeps making these tik Toks were alone while recording their tik Toks about how sad it is that people are eating alone
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 should is a strong word here. People don't have to have a partner necessarily. Or anything for that matter.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 yes it is. Some people don't want a partner and it's not your place to police what makes others happy. Hope this helps! 😘
@@prixe12 thank you! Exactly. Also people who go out alone aren't necessarily lonely or single either. And what if they are? Having romantic or sexual partners doesn't make anyone better than those who don't. Anyways, cheers @BlackLivesMatter1414
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 Then use a word that doesn't imply people are obligated to have this or that. It's common sense and avoids confusion
A TH-camr filmed me at work three years ago without my consent and posted that footage of me in a video they uploaded to TH-cam. The video garnered over a million views and they even put me in the video thumbnail (albeit it was a shot from behind).
My coworker recognized me in the video and showed it to me a few weeks after it got posted and that’s how I even learned about it. I live in a one party consent state, so there’s not really anything I could do about it as far as legal matters were concerned.
Well, fast forward to just a few weeks ago and I learned that the TH-camr got arrested for some pretty hefty charges and their entire channel, including the video with me in it, had been taken down.
Now that’s what I call karma!
TLDR: Please don’t film people without their consent, karma packs a serious wallop
May I ask which TH-camr it was?
@@fadimoroka3033maybe ruby franke
good for you that must have been stressful!
8 passengers?
@@wildchild69 yeah that's what I thought too
I was once approached by one of those guys who do those random interviews on the street in the middle of hiding a breakdown. My voice was so shaky so I didn’t talk, but he didn’t even ask if I wanted to be recorded. I didn’t say anything into the mic and just walked away and I heard him say to the camera:
“Ooooh, someone’s moody.” And it took my whole willpower to not punch him in the face.
To this day, I have no clue whether or not it was posted. This was back in September, so if it was, there’s a solid chance I wouldn’t find it.
Im so incredibly grateful to live in France. Here we have what’s called a « right to your own image » which prohibits anyone from taking pictures or filming your face without explicit written or filmed consent. If you don’t follow it, you can get sued and fined for around 3000€
same here in Germany! glad europe is so strict
the one good law in france wow
how does the law get applied near the eiffel tower or any other tourist attraction. If you record a video and post to tik tok or smthing, can you get fined?
French here. The law doesn’t prohibit taking pictures of people in public, it forbids taking the picture and diffusing it publicly or using it. Taking pictures or filming in itself, including people in a public space, isn’t forbidden. It is if the picture is taken in a private place / from a public place but showing something taking place in private, and/or if you share it publicly without the consent of people concerned / purposely take picture of one or more individuals that are unaware and non consenting (so crowds or people walking by are not concerned), and maybe a case can be made if you can prove the content was constituting harassment / impeding on your freedom and security and not respecting your consent, or the act is a crime in itself (taking pictures of someone you are actively stalking, or upskirting for example). If it wasn’t documentaries on tv would litterally need to get consent from everyone and anyone traversing the street in front of their camera and if not the persons could sue them. Street photographers wouldn’t exist, 50% of all social media content too.
@@rotgutted I love freedom so I’m
Not glad Europe is strict if I was the president of the world I would make Europe less strict
I literally served a lady at work the other day who was live on Instagram. She was recording the transaction, what she was buying and then tries to film me scanning her items through. When I asked her to stop she got SO rude, but to top it all off, she came back later that day (not recording this time) and returned the expensive items she bought. So many of these ‘influencers’ put on this big persona and pretend to be affluent but it’s all bs. Embarrassing
Oh geez, I _hated_ when a customer would throw me off while I tried to ring them up, then get all pissy and insulting like I haven't gone through the same interaction hundreds of times that morning and maybe, just maybe, it's a *bit* mind-numbing and difficult to snap to attention when suddenly someone complicates the process. Can't even imagine being filmed like that.
@@essiggurke7276 One time I came in to work despite having severe nausea, trying to be all dedicated, and I got in trouble because my smile wasn't pleasant enough. Pulled aside and written up for "bad attitude," all that nonsense. The same store also left customer feedback printouts in the break room, and while they normally covered up the outright offensive comments, they included one telling the women working at the store that they needed to be prettier and "smell nice" for the customers.
Anyway now I'm in healthcare, where at least if I get screamed at it's because the patient/family is understandably distraught. Usually.
should have recorded her back lmao
I once made a tiktok saying I hated living in a tourist city cuz ppl would just film me and my friends without consent all the time (to the extent that one of my mates no longer eats in public) and a girl commented and told me to 'just move' ♡ ah yes. Moving my whole life so strangers don't have to learn boundaries
i mean they are strangers ina toursit town, it is akways going to be that way. thats the unfortunate reality we live in
@@animeloveer97That's not the point. We all know that's how it is. That doesn't make it ok.
instagram & tiktok comments are literally making me lose faith in humanity & I'm not just saying that because it's a meme.
its always just the most brainless & vile stuff you will ever read
I’ve been filmed without my permission so many times and it continues to happen which is actively making my social anxiety worse. This needs to stop genuinely
i’m so sorry that happens to you. some people are asshoIes
it's crazy to me how people sitting alone at a restaurant is sad or weird somehow. i feel like people who think that way just don't enjoy their own company and i feel bad for them tbh. i love doing things on my own, it's honestly the best.
People like that tend to have shitty friends and toxic relationships because they're so deathly afraid of being alone that they surround themselves with whoever will take them.
I've finally started to do things on my own and it's so freeing. Going to a brewery with an ebook and good beer is a great afternoon. A couple of my friends think it's super weird I do things on my own but like....why?
I travel for a living so I frequently go out to eat, on hikes, to museums, concerts, etc. all by myself. I've never felt weird about it. I have great friends and a family I love, but I'm an introvert to the core, and not enough time to myself causes me to get anxious and feel emotionally drained, actually.
the most irritating thing to me is when people assume that because you’re alone you must be sad. just because you don’t like being alone doesn’t mean i don’t, and i actually prefer it much more than being with people🙏
Yeah I like to go out and do things on my own like eating, going to concerts, etc
My worry is always that people are gonna look at me weird for it
Years ago I ended up with agoraphobia after being stalked and assaulted. It's taken a long time to be able to go out and enjoy the world, or simply live a functional life. Having random strangers come up to me with their phone camera pointed at me is extremely upsetting. I'm tired of this being a thing but know if I react I'll be used as a source of content and called a Karen. I'm just trying to live my life.
I’m very sorry that happened to you, I hope you’ll heal and live your life to the fullest without any fears ❤
The fact that we are not that far away from Truman Show levels of being on camera without knowledge or consent is concerning
Family vloggers
There is probably someone out there filming a kid from birth that they bought online right now.
Real
And the fact that unlike in Truman Show, it's not 1 guy being watched by everyone, it's basically anybody being watched by everyone really
I mean look at “Jury Duty” doesn’t matter how funny it was that was creepy as fuck and had cameras literally like the trumanshow
Its like they completely forget that some people may have stalkers or abusers or witness protection programme or maybe just dont want to be online
Some callous people say “just don’t go outside” when I say don’t film people without their consent. What? I should become a shut in because I don’t want to be posted online? When I go outside in consenting to be seen by the handful of people at a store, not millions.
In a more drastic reason: what if you film someone who is hiding from an abuser or stalker and you’ve just blasted them online? What if you cause someone to get harassed & bullied because you posted them online mocking them? Leave strangers alone.
Exactly. Being out in public isn't automatic consent like some people claim.
Not only that, but what if someone is in witness protection and you just exposed their position? You just got someone killed.
IN THAT CASE YOU WOULD BE AN ACTOR IN A LIFETIME MOVIE BECASUE THATS THE ONLY PLACE THIS SCENARIO TAKES PLACE.
@@macktonight9511 Everyone, we found the person who needs to go outside more.
@mxngos7493 what if you're not the subject of the photo you're just in the background is a photographer supposed to ask for consent from other people or just the subject of the photo. For example any picture of a couple in times Square
Two dudes walked into my job live streaming and I was so panicked I didn't know what to do- they literally had the camera right in my face and as soon as they left I couldn't stop crying. I was the only person at work and had to close early because I couldn't stop sobbing my eyes out because I felt so vulnerable and embarrassed; they literally could've just asked if they could record and I might've let them, but it's such an invasion of privacy
I'm sorry that happened ❤
I'm so sorry you had to deal with it, I hope you're feeling better 💓
Wow. I’m sure my daughter would act that way as well. I’m so sorry. Yeah these idiots try to put everyone in the spotlight and not all of us want that
Honestly I don't even care I'd have called the cops screw those jerks.
Then again of you set that boundary you're viewed as a Karen my god this generation is just disgusting
Yeah, I had people point their cameras at me at work despite the rules prohibiting videos and photos without the staff's permission (I work at a gym) and it feels violating. However, when I attended a pride parade and hundreds of people had me in their videos, I happily waved into all the cameras because I expected it to happen.
Consent and expectations make all the difference
I'm SO glad that shit like that is illegal in Germany. You could easily get sued if you film someone without their consent.
genau genau
Ich lebe in Bayern und es hält sich irgendwie keiner dran. Ich selber nutze kein TikTok, weil ich die Plattform einfach nur bescheuert finde, aber ich seh ständig Leute am rumfilmen. Meine Schwägerin wurde mal im Edeka von zwei Jugendlichen gestalkt, nur weil sie asiatisch aussieht und die zwei Jugendlichen sie unbedingt fragen wollten, wie sie mit "all dem Rassismus" in der Gegend zurecht kommt. Bis zum Parkplatz haben sie sie drangsaliert und dann noch einen blöden Kommentar über ihr Auto abgelassen. Die aktuelle Jugendgeneration hier in Deutschland ist zum Großteil einfach nur komplett bescheuert. Zumindest kommt es mir so vor. Sie war ziemlich irritiert durch diese Aktion. Glaub die zwei hätten genauso gut vom Funk-Netzwerk vom ÖRR sein können, weil die auch ständig auf die Ideen kommen solchen Unsinn zu fabrizieren.
TL;DR in english: This law does indeed exist in Germany, but many people seem to be unaware or just break it. Sueing is possible, but also complicated with our inefficient bureaucracy and increasingly ineffective justice system (at least here in the region, where they recently have let a serial s3x offender free without punishment).
Theoretically, yes. Doesn't stop strangers from taking photos of you or you being blasted on tv by the news. I ended up on tv as the only subject TWICE without being aware at the time that I was even filmed.
Same
Passiert halt nicht. Tiktok ist auch voll damit wie andere gefilmt werden, mit Gesicht und allem
4:05 Bro I swear to god I also am neurodivergent, and I was having a panic attack in my class and in the street and some random people in my class and on the street took videos of me showing my face making fun of me and just being $hitty . It’s sad that we have to expect that these days. Also I hope people stop being such a jerk to them
The thing is that so much of this is actually just cyberbullying but no one treats it like it is
also not to mention the threat filming strangers in public has to DV survivors and people in witness protection... so glad people are actually talking about how insane it is!!
@@cryfly1 aight im gonna follow you around with twelve phones recording all your moves, and posting it to five different social networks across the globe.
is it really hard to just, chill and relax in public?
@@cryfly1 hm i don’t think you’re disabled then,
@@cryfly1 I mean, yeah, screaming in public is generally frowned upon. Like, even in happiness, people tend to not like it when you're suddenly being really loud, potentially right next to their ears
@@cryfly1 generally based on past experiences of mine, people who talk and reason like you are completely abled. this isn’t to say you’re immediately like. a shit person or whatever, just that i maybe misinterpreted your response - i’m autistic and have trouble with tone
@@cryfly1bro they are literally just asking that you don’t randomly make fun of someone in front of the rest of the world?? Like- it’s that easy?? Just take selfies or pictures of your friends and family or birds and dogs or something?? Not to be mean to strangers??
I've been filmed in public by guys before, and I think a lot of times it's just another form of sexual harassment. I'm an autistic woman, and I've been catcalled/sexually harassed in public since I was around 9 or 10, and every single time it happened has been so scary and exhausting for me. Recently, I was even kissed without my consent by a random strange man and I was also in an Uber where the driver constantly was taking wrong turns and calling me babe and trying to flirt. It's so terrifying and I felt so completely disrespected and disregarded. The thing I hate about it the most is knowing that there is a good chance that if I don't react exactly how they want, I could get screamed at, followed around, physically/sexually assaulted, or even stabbed or shot (yes I live in America). Now when I see videos of guys putting a camera in a girl's face, it brings a new leave of coercion and control into it, because if she doesn't comply they can get thousands of people to hate on her.
We as a society really need to address the epidemic of sexual harassment of women. We make up 50% of the population, but we are always taught that being constantly disrespected is just sometimes we have to live with. It sucks a lot.
Jesus christ thats horrible, I have had my fair share of boys hitting on me while recording but i'm so sorry you have to go through that. Sexual harassers are one of the only people i am willing to physically harm.
I'm so sorry about your awful experiences, and I completely agree.
Yep when I was in elementary, middle school, & high school people used to drive by when I was getting off the bus & walking beside the road to my grandparents house & would beep at me & yell out their windows!! I was a whole child! Now I always had a shape. I was an “early bloomer” as they say & have a very curvaceous body but they KNEW I was a child because they just watched me get off the bus & even if they didn’t actually see the bus they saw my book bag on my back so they still knew I just got off a bus & therefore, was a whole child! It was sickening!
On one hand, men (or really anyone with a heart) would truly appreciate someone flirting with them or giving out random compliments. On the other, you forget that men have feelings too and our feelings are just as important as womens (Gasp!) I know, weird, huh? We already care about the sexual harrassment of women (we shouldn't care about compliments that don't harrass) but when are we going to care about how men are treated? It's crazy, you always see all this empathy for women but there is absolutely zero for men.
@@nate9361this is a woman describing her really shitty encounters with creepy men and being sexually harassed. Wtf even is your point?? Acting like every single man would love being constantly harassed like women are proves you have 0 clue how women are treated by creeps.
I absolutely hate being in pictures or videos if I don’t consent. Even from family or friends. Having some rando on the internet doing this kind of shit with me is one of my biggest fears. Especially if it was a time where I just wanted to be left alone or was in a bad mood while in public.
real!!
I was startled in a Walmart as a prank. Someone snuck up behind me while I was focusing on finding something and started yelling about some sports team or something with their phone recording and set on a cart. I’m autistic, anxious, have CPTSD, and agoraphobia, making it so I can hardly even leave the house without my partner. Thankfully my partner was in a different part of the store so I was able to get support from him afterwards, but the amount that triggered me and gave me more reasons to be scared of other people has stuck with me still about a year later.
People better have a second phone. That kinda stuff makes me pretty aggressive. Then I'm the bad guy for shoving the phone literally down their throat. Don't fuck with strangers, they mightn't be ok with it.
@@bibsp3556id get aggressive too if some fucking weirdo startled *anyone* in public, that shit is a completely unacceptable way for adults to act in public to strangers.
As a person with contamination OCD, I feel their pain and cannot fathom why anyone would think it's ok to touch a stranger.
Right but why would you go to Times Square though?
@@JackT702 I think that an accidental touch by passerby is understandable. But people have the right to assume strangers won't touch them without consent.
@JackT702 so they're just supposed to not live their life and go places? Just dont touch strangers smfh. God people just need to learn to mind their business.
@@JackT702 they're clearly in line for something?
@@JackT702 some people have to live in new york
As a person who dresses goth, being filmed and having people take photos of me happens a lot. People often excuse it by "you're asking for attention looking like that!" Etc. It sucks. Dont film strangers no matter how they look or dress. lol
The way people think standing out = deserving of disrespect is so backwards. Like even if you WERE asking for attention (I know you aren't, just hypothetically) - that doesn't mean taking pictures of you.
It's not that hard to comprehend. People act like they aren't opening themselves up to the exact same thing when a stranger decides they're a weird NPC by continuing to defend this behavior.
YES THIS. Alternative ppl of any style don't exist for you to take photos of and film. Ask us for consent if ur gonna do it or else ur gonna get my ass in a sweet lolita dress punching you in the face as you don't have the damn decency and respect to just let me be
I’m sorry, also goth music and culture is beautiful and awesome, don’t listen to anyone who says otherwise
I hate the whole “if you dress different then you’re asking for it” like no?? Just because someone is dressed in any type of Alt fashion, a colorful outfit, or even a costume, it doesn’t matter. Unless someone is straight up holding a sign that says “Please take pics of me” then they are not “asking for it”
People always think women or people who act or look different than the norm deserve anything done to them it’s actually insane how people can’t understand consent.
In my freshman year of high school, someone took a picture of me from behind and posted it on Snapchat with the caption “Didn’t know they let hobos in 😂 💀” because I was wearing a sweatshirt. I only came to know about it because a classmate recognized me. I do live in a very low income household so it really hurt to know that thats all people saw of me.