I thought it was a beautiful movie made me want to look up the history you make a big deal out of the race and prior filmography of the writer and director. Melissa Mathison was pro Tibet. and must have believed and research on the topic and history.A lot of Martin Scorsese do have alot of violence and language in them but if you really know his cinema you would no that violence isnt all he has up his sleeves Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore Hugo The Last Temptation of Christ shows his versatility he is an old master who has command and knowledge on the craft so he can adapt his style to diffrent genera. Also actors speaking English is not so strange The Last Emperor did the same thing and has a simular look at feel
Pretty damn good!! I'm even considering the Paetron thing. I've seen Kundun several times and own a copy, something I rarely do this time around (buying any entertainment for home consumption) Your descriptions are very transforming. Thanks! Don't forget about the next installment of T P, we are waiting..........well???
So how do you reconcile the film's deliberate ignorance of the Tibetan monk ruling class's routine cruelty and oppression of the serfs with your understanding of the film? The film itself serves arguably serves as historical propaganda, distracting attention from what was wrong with Tibet (and it was a whole lot) before the Lhasa Uprising in favor of a sanitized narrative constructing all of the people of the nation as innocent victims of Chinese aggression and not themselves the source of immense amounts of pain and oppression of their own people? It ain't Birth of a Nation (at least for Americans - I have no clue how an average Tibetan serf would view it, if any are still alive at this point), but it sure does play into a carefully constructed narrative that doesn't reflect historical truth. Does the film, then, lose any of its value? Is it affected at all?
yeahhh, that's a tough one. i don't know enough about the actual events to comment on their historicity, which makes me an ignorant viewer. i think you're absolutely right that it's essentially propaganda, born out of a simplified American perception of what was in reality a much more ethically complicated situation. but i'd also say that this is a really tough pickle to avoid in any historical drama. for instance, ip-man is a really entertaining kung-fu film based on real events, that is also verrrrry anti-japanese film that valorizes a sort of chinese ethic. i sometimes compare it to rambo 2, in terms of being a nationalistic mass-audience celebration of Our Country's greatness. i think we have to take these things as they are, and not one or the other. kundun moves me in a way that many films don't, and it holds a special place in my heart. but i can also acknowledge that all these faults are valid and worth unpacking. i mean, heck, it's definitely no birth of a nation... but i still watched birth of a nation in film school.
If you want propaganda, go to China. I've spoken to Tibetan refuges and they told me what the communists did in graphic detail. The film is factual whether you think it is or not.
0:20 is that twin peaks?
Competing against 7 years in Tibet. Both are great films.
Kundun is a classic movie.
Great film.........
I thought it was a beautiful movie made me want to look up the history you make a big deal out of the race and prior filmography of the writer and director. Melissa Mathison was pro Tibet. and must have believed and research on the topic and history.A lot of Martin Scorsese do have alot of violence and language in them but if you really know his cinema you would no that violence isnt all he has up his sleeves
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
Hugo
The Last Temptation of Christ
shows his versatility he is an old master who has command and knowledge on the craft so he can adapt his style to diffrent genera. Also actors speaking English is not so strange
The Last Emperor did the same thing and has a simular look at feel
Pretty damn good!! I'm even considering the Paetron thing. I've seen Kundun several times and own a copy, something I rarely do this time around (buying any entertainment for home consumption) Your descriptions are very transforming. Thanks! Don't forget about the next installment of T P, we are waiting..........well???
thank you! the next TP ep won't be out for a while. i'll have something else up in the meantime.
Long Live His Holiness The Dalai Lama and FreeTibet.
I'm from Vietnam. I can't watch Kundun. I hope i can it.
Do yourself a favour, leave Vietnam for a better country that will give you the freedom to watch kundun.
So how do you reconcile the film's deliberate ignorance of the Tibetan monk ruling class's routine cruelty and oppression of the serfs with your understanding of the film? The film itself serves arguably serves as historical propaganda, distracting attention from what was wrong with Tibet (and it was a whole lot) before the Lhasa Uprising in favor of a sanitized narrative constructing all of the people of the nation as innocent victims of Chinese aggression and not themselves the source of immense amounts of pain and oppression of their own people?
It ain't Birth of a Nation (at least for Americans - I have no clue how an average Tibetan serf would view it, if any are still alive at this point), but it sure does play into a carefully constructed narrative that doesn't reflect historical truth. Does the film, then, lose any of its value? Is it affected at all?
yeahhh, that's a tough one. i don't know enough about the actual events to comment on their historicity, which makes me an ignorant viewer. i think you're absolutely right that it's essentially propaganda, born out of a simplified American perception of what was in reality a much more ethically complicated situation.
but i'd also say that this is a really tough pickle to avoid in any historical drama. for instance, ip-man is a really entertaining kung-fu film based on real events, that is also verrrrry anti-japanese film that valorizes a sort of chinese ethic. i sometimes compare it to rambo 2, in terms of being a nationalistic mass-audience celebration of Our Country's greatness.
i think we have to take these things as they are, and not one or the other. kundun moves me in a way that many films don't, and it holds a special place in my heart. but i can also acknowledge that all these faults are valid and worth unpacking. i mean, heck, it's definitely no birth of a nation... but i still watched birth of a nation in film school.
If you want propaganda, go to China. I've spoken to Tibetan refuges and they told me what the communists did in graphic detail. The film is factual whether you think it is or not.
you bloody dog, first let tibet be free then say whatever you want
@@letstalkaboutstuff you bastard bloody dog, first let tibet be free and then you can say whatever you want. tibat was never part of china