संवाद # 15: Ami Ganatra tells real tales of Mahabharat & its characters, busts many popular myths
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Ami Ganatra is an alumna of Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad (IIMA). A management professional, she is also a devout yoga practitioner, a certified yoga instructor, and a student of Sanskrit and Indian knowledge systems.
Her book Mahabharata Unravelled: Lesser-Known Facets of a Well-Known History brings to light fascinating details and aspects of the people and events in the great epic not commonly known, to answer some often-asked questions and clarify prevalent myths. You can order your copy here: www.amazon.in/Mahabharata-Unr...
0:00 Intro
1:28 सम्बोधन in Mahabharat
4:32 Real character of Draupadi
16:37 Polyandry in Mahabharat times
24:56 Real Yudhishthir
35:08 Dharmaraj Yudhishthir & वस्त्रहरण
45:37 Arjun of Ved Vyasa Mahabharat
51:37 Age of characters in Mahabharat
56:08 बेचारा Karna? No. His real character
1:11:08 BR Chopra’s Shakuni
1:17:48 Why Itihasa is important
1:27:35 Eklavya & caste discrimination
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Mahabharat is our history. So happy that a highly educated person like Ami has chosen to mention ‘History’ on the cover of her book.
1:06:52 by mistake she said Arjun, it was said by Fake Lower Caste Sut Putr Karn, thank you
The word she used is itihaas. Literal translation would be history but the word itihaas has more depth and meaning, not just a narrative of the past.
@@rajeshwarikarthikeyan5941 😊wwwwww 😊😘
Sachai bta rhe ho to puri btao na unke real name se bulao na unko.
Mahabharat Is Not Our History
It Is Our Past Present Future All
Mahabharat Is Happening All Around Us
What a talent, what an effort! I am proud that such people like Ami are there to keep the light of ancient gyan alive. My salute 🙏 👏
Mahamurkh yeh prani , 😂 apne mannn ke Mahabharata likh de aur aap log bewakoof bhi ban gaye
@@roganstone4979 or tune toh soni putra karna dekh ke seekha hai naa 😅😆
@@roganstone4979 😮ll😮p😅o😅
Madam from my very childhood I am very fascinated by Mahabharat by Maharishi Vedvysa, I read a lot . Something I regret that if I could talk to you front to front. You are really fabulous Madam. Always you highlight the right thing.
Very well explained and clarified, how its shown in TV series its very different. In the "Suryaputra Karna" series, Arjuna's character is portrayed as less powerful in battle, while the show predominantly highlights Karna's greatness as a warrior.
Agree and people rather than reading real puranas they more believe serials and portray Karn as hero and Arjun as a loser 🤦🤦I was not sure bt always confused about his character and was more inclined towards Arjun... ❤️
That is too toxic serial, stay away from that.
IF KARNA WAS NOT POWERFULL WHY KRISHNA SAVED ARJUN FORM HIM ?
HE SAVED ARJUN FORM NAGASTRA, INDRA ASTHRA.
इस video की सबसे अच्छी बात ये है कि कर्ण की वास्तविकता बताई गई है। ये बहुत आवश्यक था। क्योंकि आज कल कर्ण को बहुत अधिक महिमामंडित करके tv पर दिखाया जाता है जो कि अनुचित है।
महाभारत में कर्ण भले दुर्योधन की तरफ था फिर भी महान था.
@@sanatangyan1056 Tv serial dekh kar bol rahe hain aap. Mahabharat padhiye. Tv serial par vishwas mat keejiye.
Par mujhe isme tark ki baat to kahi nahi bhai
Agar karn aur duryodhan itne powerfully hai jo itna bada yudhdh karwa De ye baat kujh hajam nahi hui
she is justifying casteism which is not whole truth because she must know as per vedas upper caste man (upper verna) can marry lower caste women (lower verna) , even it is allow in manusmriti, but not allow lower caste/Verna man to marry upper caste/verna women: that was discrimination: can easily seen in Mahabharata.
I enjoyed listening her more than watching the tv serial.
Full modern, funny, educational , interesting yet accurate discussion on Mahabharat.
I agreed
@@durgeshprasadroutray5289 dissagrred agar jhuth sunne ka Sauk hai toh sunno
@@roganstone4979 She's quoting from Ved Vyasa's Mahabharat, how is it a jhuth?
@@dakshsharma1703 wahi toh problem hai Bhai yeh ved vyas ki Mahabharata se bol rahe hai , jo approx 500sal Pehle nast ho gye thee 😂😂😂. Aur tumlog aise jhooton ke baat maan lete ho ,
Aur abhi jo version hai vo mostly vaisanpaine ke hai ( student of ved vyas , who used 2000 more shloka's to glorify pandav's, like virat war )......
If you really support our culture and heritage and warrior's which our history has build's you should ask her questions not me 🙏🙏
@@roganstone4979 What's she's telling is inn accordance to Bori which is the most accurate so doesn't matter, she's mostly right. Also Pandavas are the protagonist of Ved vyasa mahabharat too, Arjuna is the main character of Mahabharat!
Thanks! Please keep making content about our civilizational interests.
Thanks for donation sir 💙🙏
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Ha toh sab ka sab ek tarfa story bana do har jagah bhagwan hi ache dikhao .bhsdk walo esa he toh ye mahabharat ramayan dekhenhi kyu .tumhare god he great he band kardo kuch dekhna ,┐(‘～`;)┌.castist racist logo kabhi tumne apni behen ki bhai ki shadi down caste me ki he .?.aaj char warna nahihe char caste nahihe According to constitution there are more than 2000 castes .koi bhi sadhu guru maharaj kabhi bhi intercaste marriage k liye protsahan nahi deta .agar koi intercaste ki baat kare toh tum logo k dukan band ho jayege .bade aye gyan dene wale kapti hindu
1:06:52 by mistake she said Arjun, it was said by Fake Lower Caste Sut Putr Karn, thank you
Thanks s10 edr bhi bhej do jab mare pass ayega m aggy kisi ko dekar jauga jab Malik de bhai ji tq
What a podcast it was, Amiji has true passion for Indian vedic history and her research enlightens people like me I would like to thank the host as he had not interrupted her during the podcast. India has such a rich history and it should be taught in schools/universities in it's purest form. sara duniya bhar ka literature fika hai Mahabharat Ramayan k samne abb jisse isse poems ya story samajna hai samje aur jo jaisa amiji ne kaha humara itihas maan na chahte hai woh itihas mane but nothing can even come close to these epics. Jai Shree Krishna.
Ami Ganatra (गणात्रा), we certainly need authorised young scholars like you to prove how our spiritual scriptures like Ramayana and Mahabharata are un-tarnished. I am really proud of you, Supreme bless you.!
How do you say she is saying correct?
If any soul simply want to raise doubts without any proper authentication or reasons, on the credibility of any proven scholar, then anyone is free to do so.! Even such persons can raise doubts on Lord Krishna, Vedas Rushis like Vyasa, or latest like Swami Vivekananda and so on...! Have your own ways and pleased yourself!
@@rashmigaur617 why don't you put forth a video with information that you know of after studying the verses. Please share the link. You are being negative for the sake of it else make a specific valid point.
@@rashmigaur617 What do think BR Chopra's Mahabharat is correct?
@@andhkasur
It is Ami ..... who is putting down B.R. Chopra....without any DOCUMENTED PROOF.
Others have the same RIGHT to say ..... AMI is WRONG!!!.
बहुत बहुत बहुत सुंदर मीमांसा।वह श्रष्टा आप शोधकर्ता बिटिया को एवम प्रस्तुतकर्ता को असीम स्नेह का आशीर्वाद प्रदान कर आप जैसे युवाओं का मार्ग प्रशस्त करे और यशस्वी शतायु जीवन प्रदान करें।🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Maine bohot sari Mahabharata sey related podcast suni hay but inki Ami Ganatra ki baat hi kuch alag hay❤ jis tarah sey yeh bhyakhya karti hay bada ananda aata hay sunn kar ❤.
बहुत सुंदर विष्लेषण और सामायिक! हिन्दुओं को सही इतिहास बताने के लिए धन्यवाद एमी जी।
The nation needs intellectuals like Ami Ganatra.
Agreed🙏
#sattology pls watch this also. Research base.
Great and clear narration by Ami. She is no doubt an asset to our country. Must be awarded by the Government.
th-cam.com/play/PLzT1yw_wugHB8lcho3VBnkkMwl36KwThb.html 🙏 Hare Krishna Hari bol 👍🙏😀
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
साधो साधो,,अति उत्तम, 👍👌💐, जय जय नारायण हरि,,,नारी भी नारायणी👍💐,🙏🕉
Best ever explanations of so many misunderstood, missing, complex and most important aspects of Mahabharat. What a great fete to hear such a beautiful descriptions.
मेरी सबसे बड़ी गलती यह है, आधा जीवन बीत गया, और मैंने शास्त्र ही नही पढ़े,
पर अब मैं अपनी गलती सुधारना चाहता हूं।।
व्यासरचित महाभारत पढ़ लीजिए। उसे पांचवा वेद कहा गया है। और कलियुग में महाभारत जीवन जीना सिखाता है।
Finally... Finally someone is talking what I have been trying to explain to my family and friends.. BR chopra mahabharat is not real mahabharat and rashmirathi is not real karna
Yes truth will prevail at last
There could be simple wrong interpretations. But BR Chopra did an excellent service to India with the show. We should never undermine his contribution.
Neither is her interpretation real. She and the host outright hate Karna and are hardcore praising arjun Draupadi. Karna in Mahabharat is shown as a positive character only. Nothing is going to change it.
@@siddarth3955 yeah! Would have been better if he brought one more scholar of Mahabharata with a different pov who could ask counter questions...
This wasn't vaad. This was just a narrative and one pov.
@@bu11ymaguire He wouldn't. He hates Karna so why would he do that? He had previously also insulted Karn. Also this so called author cherry picked verses and is acting as if Karna is negative character and saying 'I am not anti Karna, Vyasa Mahabharat is'.
This one verse from Vyasa Mahabharat destroys her argument:
"""Thus fell that hero who was a Kalpa tree unto those swarms of birds represented by suitors. Solicited by suitors he always said, "I give" but never the words "I have not!" The righteous always regarded him as a righteous person.""
-Karna Parva, Section-94, Vyasa Mahabharat.
Also her claim that Karna wasn't low caste or casteism didn't exist just to belittle his humiliations are also false. Karna was insulted for his caste in many places, once he even tells Bhishma not to insult him as 'low born' since he has always followed practises or Kshatriyas alone. All in all, it's just another dumb writer with her own interpretation.
Not just this, there are also places where Pandavas actions were extremely questionable like Arjun burning Khandiva forest. In actual epic it was basically a genocide of all the innocent naga people and animals in the forest but somehow we aren't supposed to question it. Any person with two brain cells would be shocked at the description of the genocide mentioned in the text but we are still supposed to accept unquestionably like abrahamic faith.
She also spoke as if Karna abandoned Duryodhan with gandharvas while in reality Karna destroyed half the Gandharva army and was overcome with illusion, all his weapons and chariot was destroyed, etc. That's when he retreated and the so called gandharvas were themselves sent by Arjuna's father Indra to humiliate Kauravas and protect Pandavas. Arjun also did the same thing when Dwarka robbers attacked but she wouldn't mention that.
I would only suggest, read actual epic. You will find such TH-cam channels or authors everywhere. This particular author even seems to totally take her knowledge from Quora.
She also said Satyaki defeated Karna but it never happened. As per BORI CE, on 14th day Karna made Satyaki satyaki chariotless. Then the latter got on lord Krishna's celestial chariot and he inturn made Karna chariotless, then Satyaki defeated other kaurav warriors who came there. Karna then got on a new chariot and resumed his fight with Satyaki, how is this defeat? Karna made satyaki chariotless and Satyaki did the same for Karna. These are just some small refutations of her rants against Karna.
Even Arjun was defeated by many. Victory and defeat is not constant in war. That's why Mahabharat is realistic but this author has made it into Bollywood masala flick where one hero is undefeated and rest are all villains or side characters.
Her deep knowledge and command on Sanskrit and scriptures is astounding and heard her vivid explanation with rapt attention.keep going, we need learned people like you. With lots of respect.
How you reached this conclusion she has deep knowledge. I can also use same number of Sanskrit words.
👍🏼yes
@@yellowglove793 so you have ego problems with her?
Abey kuchh nahi hai. Bas dikhawa hai isko to koi bhi aasani se debunk kr skta hai
@@yellowglove793 Abey chutiye what precludes you for doing so then
Excellent episode, man! Great efforts by Ami Ganatra!!! This reflects my knowledge from HH ShriMadhwacharya's (12-13th century AD) "Mahabharata-Tatparya-Nirnayah"
The way Ami Mam narrates, one can listen to her for hours..
Mahabharat is a real epic. To write such a complex itihas in such an ancient time is just breathtaking.
Ha toh sab ka sab ek tarfa story bana do har jagah bhagwan hi ache dikhao .bhsdk walo esa he toh ye mahabharat ramayan dekhenhi kyu .tumhare god he great he band kardo kuch dekhna ,┐(‘～`;)┌.castist racist logo kabhi tumne apni behen ki bhai ki shadi down caste me ki he .?.aaj char warna nahihe char caste nahihe According to constitution there are more than 2000 castes .koi bhi sadhu guru maharaj kabhi bhi intercaste marriage k liye protsahan nahi deta .agar koi intercaste ki baat kare toh tum logo k dukan band ho jayege .bade aye gyan dene wale kapti hindu
Exactly bro us time itna bada puran likhna bhot bdi bat h
its not written its actually happened you dumbo
Lol. History my a$&. Plagiarism from Homer’s Oddesey. Mixed with Persian stories
@@uprightwalkingape3483 wow chutiye you mean all those microscopic details are from Persia? Persia ke paas sand ke alawa kya tha? You are a moron of Highest order.
महाभारत और उसमें मौजूद चरित्रों की ऐसी स्पष्ट एवं सुन्दर विवरण पहली बार सुनने को मिला। धन्यवाद अरिहंत भाई🙏
The best view of our epics and the cause of narrating them to the humanity by the likes of Valmiki & VedaVyasa. Kudos to @vaad & Ami Ganatra.🙏🙏🙏
I think distortions happen because people in general don't like thought provoking narratives; which these epics are; but they want your regular variety "masala" narrative with all sorts of modern drama.
As a individual of today’s generation I appreciate a perspective on history and its characters that’s from someone young that explained it with such simplicity and clarity. The truth is not as complicated as it made out to be.
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
Ur history and identity r essential for ur existence. If anyone tells u otherwise, know that either they’re a f00l or a t00l
@@abhimannukumarsingh8068 meat can be eaten only by Chatriyas if it was hunted by the individual chatriya or their family members not by others.
And as an individual one should believe in proof's and their own intellectual's and consciousness too . Rather then just believing whatever one is speaking out of his mouth . ( She very worng with many characters most with karn and Arjun)
मैं जब आज के जेनरेसन को अपने इतिहास को खोजते , जानने और समझने की कोशिश करते देखता हूँ तो खुशी और आनंद के आंसुओं से आंखे भींग जाती है और अपने देश संस्कृति के सुरक्षित भविष्य के लिए एक निश्चिंतता का
Thanks a lot sir
I listen to ur podcasts everyday
And the people who u invite as guests are truly giving us knowledge
So continue the work please.
We really appreciate it!
Its so relaxing and satisfying to see Ami Ganatra ji for clarifying so logically and politely.... always....! More power to you !😇🙏🙌
Happy to see IIM grads like Ami doing a research on our Itihasa and sharing her interpretations . We indians, mostly looked at our itihasa from a foreigners point of view. Primary researches like of Ami's is most required .
she is also having foreign point of view, she is not able to hold the viewpoint that bheeshma age could be 150+ at time of mahabharat war
@@sharmaabhishek202020 Yeah, but it's very common to find people aged 102-3 years in Nepal, Bhutan and India also Bheesham lived very early when air food etc must have been great
@@shikharverma5669 bhai mein sirf yeh kehna chah raha thaa kee...
1) interviewer is giving reference to B.R Chopra mahabharat(which will never be/ and should not be, reference point of itihass)
2) writer Ami is not able to hold her view point strongly that bhishma was 150+, as before pandavas bheeshma had seen 3-4 generations of kuru rajvansh.
@Vinamra Singhai and from where leftist ideology came from mr singhal?
Mahabharata is history or mythology..? bcoz majority of people said tha Ramayana and Mahabharata is a mythology not history.
She is so passionate I love the way she explained everything in details 😊❤️
So sweet, 😂😂😂😂. Knowledge ...... A 9 class child could understand a character after reading a story, but she's just .
Meri Mahabharata ,😂😂😂
misleading information dont follow her narrative, she is saying that karna donate his kavach kundal for his selfishness. Foolish girl
WHAT A REALITY CHECK!!! Great description of Panchali and also showed the reality of karna very well.👍
This video really opened my eyes about many things.. God Bless You... 💕
कहीं ये बिटिया पिछले जन्म में स्वयं द्रौपदी तो नहीं थी। बहुत ही शानदार वर्णन किया है। बहुत बहुत बधाई इतने सत्य वाणी के लिए। एकदम सही कि द्रौपदी महानतम स्त्री थी।
bhai itna b bhavnao mai mtt baho
Arey bas kar pagley. Aakh me aasoo aa gaye 😂
Mujhe v inke face me draupadi hi nazar ati hain
एक झाल ख़रीद लें! फिर प्रशंसा भजन गाते चलिए
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खुप खुप धन्यवाद.. अतिशय सुंदर अभ्यास आहे.. आज काल महाभारताची इतकी वाट लावत आहेत TV सीरियल वाले आणि कादंबरी लेखक..
अशावेळी अशा अभ्यास पूर्ण पुस्तकाची व संवादाची गरज आहे.. कर्णाच्या नावाखाली जातीच इतकं राजकारण केले जात आहे हे लोकांना जितकं लवकर कळेल तितकं बरं होइल...
love Ami's voice. Especially when she recites sanskrit. I can hear her speaking Sanskrit all day and night.
People giving gyan in comments and questioning her years long research after searching the answer from google 😂😂
She is very knowledgeable
@@account-su5ic tum batao tumhare hisab se gyanj vyakti ki definition
@@nitin1202 यह किसी के लिए ‘तुम’ ‘ तुम्हारा ‘ जैसे शब्दों का प्रयोग सभ्य और असभ्य होने का परिचायक होता है।
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
@@abhimannukumarsingh8068 agree
Everyone should learn about a story narrated to Yuddhisthir in Van Parva about Nishad King Nal and his romantic adventures with the Vidarbha Kingdom princess Damyanti and his friendship with king Rituparna of Ayodhya who was an ancestor of Shree Ram to know if at all there was any birth based "discrimination" against this Nishad tribe.
Dhanyawad
Nala is not from Nishaada tribe, Nishadha was his Kingdom, Eklavya was from Nishaada tribe, son of Hiranyadhanu.
@@dakshsharma1703 nishadh tribe ke leader ko nishadhraj kaha jata hai. Satyavati k pita ko bhu nishadhraj kaha gaya tha, jaha tak muje yaad hai
@@jojosoni Here they distinguish between nishaad (निषाद) and nishadha (निषध). Nishadha seems to have been a kingdom. Nishaad is a forest dweller/ Hunter tribe sort of. Ekalavya was a nishaad but nala was from Nishadha kingdom. They may however have correlation. See Kingdoms participating in the Mahabharata war nishaad on the Pandava side but nishadha on the Kaurava side.
@@dakshsharma1703 i don't know how much is your answer true, but your last line is confusing. Nishadh is like caste, it's not a tribe living in a fixed place. So, did every nishadh tribe joined kaurava 🤔?
Also, if there is a distinction between them, why did u use 1 word for both of them in previous comment.
I'm not arguing with u here, just wondering
Really great analysis of Mahabharat and narration. Thanks for bringing up real facts.
Parth means son of Prudha i.e Kunti. Krishna was the sarathi of all Parths i.e Yudhistir, Bheem & Arjun at different levels. He guided Yudhistir in Dharma, Bheem in Bhakti and Arjun in Karma(Duty)
*If Ami ji is reading this*
Would request Ami ji to come out with a KIDS version of her book (with top notch visualisation)...very important to engage kids at a younger age
You can even crowdfund this endeavour..give the first set of copies to anyone who donates
Great idea - there are Mahabharata books for kids which are fully illustrated and available. One of them is sold by Ramakrishna Matha (you can find them online under the title' Pictorial Mahabharata' ) and another is sold by Amar Chitra Katha. Of course, these editions will vary in terms of the style, story telling, visuals and content. So would love Ami ji to create her own version which is perhaps more authentic and keeping in line with the original version.
@@AshwinSriram I don't think original version would be suitable for children
@@sarvathavicharsheel7487 kyun nahi
@@sunilbalooni5137 I don't think the elements like human staking, brutal killings or even Niyoga could be a part of children books
@@AshwinSriram thanks for sharing this. Will definitely check those out.
Wow! Amazing discussion ... at around 48:00 she speaks about humility of Arjuna. That quality is not glorified much in popular culture but Mahabharata glorifies it.
She has really captured the essence of all characters wonderfully.
Everybody should hear from 57:00 about Suta putra Karna. Amazing myth busting. Thank you so much for bringing this out.
Exactly!
Totally different from what i believed about karn 😥😥
Satyam bruyaat, priyam Bruyaat
Na vad apriyam Satya......
Have you not heard this Sanskrit shloka..???. Ridiculous
Suta Putra nhi Surya Putra Karna
@@eashmishra2960 Suta Putra, Surya Putra, Radheya ye sab naam Karna ke he hai Mahabharat mein aur inme se ek bhi naam kahi chotta nahi hai. Its your choice to call him Surya Putra and my choice to call him Suta Putra. Hope you know the meaning of Suta Putra, if not watch the video 😀
Very good explanation. Madam you must let more and more people know the true Mahabharata. Best of luck for all your future endeavours
Sanskrit learning is so important for all Indians
ज्ञान वर्धक एपिसोड है !! अत्यंत आभारी हु !! हर हर महादेव !! अमी जी के आत्मविश्वास को सादर प्रणाम !!
I have become a fan of VAAD.. every episode is different from one another and truly informative.. and that studio experience where there is no disturbance and cracking voices and internet outages.. Well done Brother
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
@@abhimannukumarsingh8068 Hindu mass khate he khte the. Agastya muni ne ak bakri ke vesh dhari asur ko khake vadh kia tha. Veda vyas ki mata macchli pakrti thi, wo macchli to khane ke lie hi hain
बहन जी आपके सराहनीय कार्य के लिए ह्रदय से आभार हार्दिक शुभकामनाएं जय श्री राधे श्याम
I luved the whole video....each & every concept was beautiflly explained...
42 to 46 --beautiful definition of itihash
48 to 50 -- Karna was beaten in war by bhim, sartaki, abhimanyu, And Arjun --- Karna has been magnified in BR Chopra mahabharat serial
And also in Starplus and Suryaputra Karn
In Rashmirathi too...but I like Rashmirathi alot but not for karna but for Dinkar Ji's poetic magic.
Pandavas too and Arjun too
She is lying all about Karna
@@GoKu-yh7ks ok , than what is recounter ? pls point out from scripture of mahabharata im waiting , otherwise you r a blind blady fool not more then 🤣🤣🤣
बहुत ही सुन्दर विश्लेषण बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद इस इंटरव्यू के लिए
Real eye opener and Very good job by host with well narrated, matured questions...and Ami ji's explanation is so profound and beautiful. Thank you 🙏
Amiji, you have so nicely explained about karna thought process the way he use to think . I have gon through sadguru mahabharat story. But what have said is convincing....... super
Most important aspect of Mahabharata is in it's wisdom and teachings.
Seriouosly आज कल के लड़कीयो से ये अपेक्षित नहीं किया जा सकता
आपकी सोच कर्म resrearch ज्ञान कमाल का है, बहोत मेहनती है आप.
You must be inspiration for not just today's Hindu women but also Hindu Mens.
We must start all this from Veda.
I like Arihant's clean Hindi. Keep it up. it's the way to keep our language and vocabulary alive.
बहुत बहुत साधुवाद. सुज्ञ श्री अमी गणात्रा जी का महाभारत का अध्ययन प्रशंसनीय है. उनके साथ महाभारत के विषय पर अधिक संवाद का आयोजन करें. श्री अरिहंत पावरीया जी का बहोत बहोत धन्यवाद इस संवाद का आयोजन करने लिए. हरि ॐ 🙏
एक गम्भीर विस्तृत महागाथा का तात्कालिक परिस्थतियों के सन्दर्भ में बड़ा रोचक, सरल और सारगर्भित चित्रण। धर्म की सुन्दर व्याख्या। इतिहास की सर्वोत्तम परिभाषा। काल की उचित गणना का प्रयास। सराहनीय
बहुत बहुत बधाई प्रश्न पूछने वाले और उत्तर देने वाले दोनों को ही।
मैडम आपने बहूत सुंदर तरीके से विश्लेषण किया हैं महाभारत का ! मैं बी. आर. चोपड़ा साहब की महाभारत सीरियल का बहुत प्रशंसक हूं .
Hi Ami….Really Proud of you for doing this. Correcting the wrong narratives is very essential today.
awesome talk. with all the experience and expertise in filmmaking in India i m astonished why till now nobody has come come with a faithful and credible and undebatable version of mahabharat and ramayanam without personal, political or ethnic biases. history cannot be changed. ours is written black on white. europeans already distorted our history and it is the our responsibility and utmost priority to set it right for our future generations. people lke you Ami can do that. please go for it.
Wonderful discussion. Amiji's passion for Mahsbharat is visible by energy and spark when she explains. Arihant's patience to give guest all space makes all his interviews special. Thank you Arihant and Amiji 🙏
In most of case i disagree with her .. Inhonne karna ke daan ko jo kavch kundal daan kr rha h usse ese bataya h jasse bhut choti baat h uski importance pta nhi shayad inhe ..kavch kundal dena matlab life threat tha khud ke liye ..apni jeet ko dena matlab usse inhonne bhut chota krke bataya dusri baat inhone bola ki karna ne drona ko kaha ki brahman h ye toh derrpok h ...usse pahle batati h karna ki mata bhraman thi .. Matlab koi apni maa ke liye esa kyu bolega ? 3rd inhonne jis hisab se yudhishthir ko defend kiya kamaal h matlab inhonne ese dikhaya ki bechara yudhishthir kya kr skta tha juwa khelne ka mann itna kr gya ki bhai patni aur khud ko lga diya ..aur usse hum dharmaraj bol rhe h jisne sbse bda dharm kiya ...ye esa h jaisa apni patni ko bazaar me paiso me bech dena ...usko mai kbhi dharm raj nhi keh skta hun ..balki mai usse duryodhan jitna hi adharmi manta hun ...
@@vikas312yadav @vikas yadav कर्ण को कैसे याद करते हैं? दानवीर कर्ण...!! महादानी तो एक कर्ण था, कोई बराबरी कर सकता. कवच-कुंडल एक दिव्य उपहार जो कि जन्मतः कर्ण के देह से जुड़ा था. जानते बूझते कि याचक स्वयं इन्द्र देव हैं, उसने रत्ती भर समय नहीं लगाया और कवच कुंडल को शरीर से अलग कर इन्द्रदेव को दे दिया... अमी ने इस दान को कमतर आंका... मुझे ऐसा नहीं लगता!!
कर्ण की माता के लिए जो कहा, उसे शायद आप समझ नहीं पाए... एमी ने आज के परिपेक्ष्य में कहा, क्योंकि ऐसी भ्रांतियां एक षड्यंत्र के तहत फैलाई गईं की कर्ण को एक रथी के परिवार में हुआ... ज़रा ध्यान से सुनिए, जो वर्ण व्यवस्था थी वह व्यक्ति के प्रोफेशन को लेकर बनाई गई थी... ना कि जन्म के द्वारा !! अगर ऐसा होता तो कर्ण को तो फिर रथ संचालन का स्पेशलिस्ट होना था... ? ये बातें कपटपूर्वक डाली गई, ताकि आप अपने पूर्वजों पर गर्व नहीं करें... विकास, ये जो स्वयम को लिब्रान्दू कहते हैं जिनसे बड़ा सनातन धर्म का नुकसान हुआ... अपने पूर्वजों पर गर्व करो... आज यही मैसेज हम सब हिंदुओं को समझना चाहिए!!
समझदार लोग गलती नही निकालते, अपितु मेसेज क्या है, उसको समझकर उपयुक्त आचरण करने की अपेक्षा रसखि गई... आप यंग हो इसलिए जो कहा जा रहा है उसे सही context में समझना होगा... शुभकामनाएं
@@samitmathur007 sumit ji apne jo samjha aur jo kaha mai uska aadar krta hun ...aur mujhe pta karn kshetriya aur bhraman ka putra tha ..mujhe pta h usse samaj me aur logon se acha aadar mila hoga ..kyuki vo kisi aam sarthi ka putr nhi tha..usse samaj me auro ke barabar pr raja aur yuvraj se kam aadar mila hoga ..prantu ap mere baat samjh nhi rhe h ..ami ji jo explanation de rhi h usse hi contradict kr rhi h ..hame pta h karn ki mata bhraman thi, karn ka guru bhagwan parshuram bhraman the ...toh vo kisi aur bhraman ko darpok kese bol skta h ? Ami ji ki language esi thi explain krne me ki unhone bola ki yudhishthir je juaa khela ho gya excitement me vo samjh nhi paye ..lekin vo juaa khelna hi sbse bda adharam ..kyuki usme unhone khud ko , apne bhaiyon aur yha tak ki apni patni ko juee me lga diya .. Matlab isse bda adharm kuch nhi h ..toh mujhe lgta h duryodhan aur yudhishthir dono ne uss sabha me sbse bda adharm kiya tha. Aur jaisa apne btaya ki karn ne apne body ke part diye the daan me matlab ek hisab se khud ki zindagi de di daan me ... Isko ami ji ne ese bataya ki daan diya toh kya ? Inder se vapis sakti bhi toh le li thi .....unhone shi se explanation nhi kiya mahabharat ka ..main bhagwan krishna ka follower hu jo shi h vhi bolunga..... Mahabharat me har character me kuch na kuch achi quality bhi thi aur kahrab bhi .. krishna ji ko chhod kr kyuki vo beyond the limit h..
Jo lena hai lijiye.ye aapki soch par chhor diya gaya hai
Vikas shudra banke keh rahe ho toh Nishakhraj ko aur Maata Shabri ko yaad rakho Mahabharat mein Matsyagandha ko vi yaad rakhna barna chup rahna. Kuchh Janna nehi hein. Chuslam khalistani terroristani librandu jahil jihadi lefti ultra secular 72 hoora gang vrishchianism jaysa banna hein.
अरिहंत जी आप बहुत ही अनुपम कार्य कर रहे हैं।
अमी जी की पुस्तक मैं ज़रूर खरीदूंगी।
It was like an eye opener.
क्यों हमें धार्मिक होना ही चाहिए यह बार बार हिन्दू धर्म में प्रतिबिंबित होता है। बहुत ही प्रभावोत्पादक प्रस्तुति है। धर्म की गति कितनी सूक्ष्म है इसे देखने महसूस करने और धारण करने के लिए आवश्यक दृष्टि अध्धयन से ही आती है। मैडम को साधुवाद।
जनमानस की शंकाओं का निराकरण प्रस्तुत करने और भारतीय संस्कृति, साहित्य तथा पौराणिक मान्यताओं को उचित परिप्रेक्ष्य में प्रस्तुत करने के लिए आप अत्यंत आभार के अधिकारी हैं परंतु विडंबना यह है कि यह सत्य केवल उच्च शिक्षित, संस्कृति व साहित्य प्रेमी ही इस पर ध्यान देते हैं। फिर भी आपका प्रयास बहुत सराहनीय है। वर्तमान समय में इसी तरह के प्रयासों की आवश्यकता है। पुनः आपका धन्यवाद।🙏
Rarely in my life had I listened to any show related to a book promotion, and never bought a book after listing to one. But I have to say, I am fully impressed by the Knowledge, clarify of thoughts. Need to / Have to buy this buy, I am sold.
Good decision 👍
Thank you, TH-cam for recommending me this video. It's one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to. Take a bow Ami ji. 🙏
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
Bow , 😂😂😂 ...... Isse acha hai ki admai gadhe se yaari karle .
Very interesting and amazing narratives. Highly Impressive with authentic references.
wow... learnt a lot from this podcast.thank you 🙏🏻
I read Mahabharat and Ami ji, you are the first person I've ever heard talking about Pandav's living in Kumhar house, ruling out caste discrimination and I will add one more point from Ramayan, Shri Ram staying in Guha's house. And about Draupadi's character.
It shows sri ram and pandavs did not discriminate....but caste discrimination 10,20,30,40,50etc years ago happen and continue to happen now too...
@@fakeking8860 Ravan was brahmin....also rakshas.
@@debtanupatra3385 yes that's what I said i agree about ramayan and mahabharat times....talk about present and recent past I.e few decades ago ...I'm interested in the dicrimation that is present now
@@fakeking8860 that is politics.
@@debtanupatra3385 that is the reality not just politics...but may be I am wrong to bring it in this context...thus is about distant history
Bahot hi a6a vivaran. Breaking most of myth in common people with heart touching explanation. Hats off ami ganatra. 👍👍
Amiji is great for this reason that she lastly told that "Krishna mere ko nimitta banayenge to me hin karsakti hun.... Really it is completely surrender Ness... Why not as she cultered Mahabharat so her personality is purified. Jayashree Krishna...
Great 👍 more n more Youngsters shud join this flow ....happy to see Our epics r so freely discussed now .... Beautiful
Very nice and neat translation. I love it. Draupadi’s character is well justified. But Mahabharata of BR Chopra is a limited television series. They have taken the most people said story so that people would connect.
But that was the Best Mahabharat till date
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
Age of Pandavs and Krishna and dates of Mahabharata are calculated by Nilesh Oak sir (Arjun and Krishna age at time of was was approx 80, 90 yrs) .. plz have a session with him !!!
Very good. It has tremendous correlations, correspondences with The Iliad, which is also worthy of deep discussion, leading to a Proto Indo European past, mysterious homeland, religion, language.
It was a good conversation. Heard for the first time. A lot of information and Correction of history. Thank you.
I have no words to explain how the real mahabharth of Lord Vedavyas was made known wonderfully All my Pranams
Wonderful conversation. Ami's analysis of Karna's character agrees with what I heard many other scholars of the Mahabharata say.
@ProDoge he was kutni putra.
@ProDoge Assuming it is true, that would say that he was technically proficient in fighting. It says nothing about him being a role model for dharma.
@ProDoge har baar bhag jaata karna arjun se bachke 40 to chodo .004 baar bhi nahi haraya
@ProDoge mb ka sabse bada fraud tha karna
@ProDoge koi logic nahi kuch bhi bolna hai.
Dharm or adharm ki saklpana Kitna accha samjhaya hai❤
Pura dimag fresh ho gya ab tak pata nahi kya kya sun rakha tha .. bahut bahut dhanyawad is podcast k liye
i m sikh… but dil se bolta hon ke apka program itna jiada acha laga jisko btana mushkil hai… or bachpan mein ramayan… mahabharat… ko full week wait kiya jata or usme ayse kho jate rahe ke jab program khatam ho jata to ekdum se time mein wapis aate or dukhi sa ho jate ke kyun khatam ho gya.. or india ke har ghar mein total family dekhti thi or ayse hi intezar karti thi… or ramayan to hamare balmiki bhaiyon ki demand pe jidhar end kiya uske aage se dubara start kiya… thanks admin & guest…
how beautifully Ami explains - I kept on staring at her - such a Sundher way. lovely smile too
What a loving description , it's amazing
Such a beautiful and insightful conversation!
Her research will be so helpful for generations now and the generations to come. Common misconceptions about Mahabharata are beautifully explained by her. I'm grateful for her that she has led me one step closer to the authentic Ved Vyas Mahabharata
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
@@abhimannukumarsingh8068 Do you mean no Hindu should ever eat maans (meat) or that there is no rule about what you can eat?
Abe lawre Hinduism is not a vegan religion.. Shakta traditions offer fish and meat to goddess and Bali is important part of the rituals ... Take your North Indian sensibility up your ass @@abhimannukumarsingh8068
OMG my whole life I would have been thinking wrong about mahabharat thankyou so much 🙏🏻
Ya same here she cleared all the wrong conceptions about Mahabharat and Karna
Lot of thanks...to clean our misinformation & -ve thought which we take from wrong (book, person,video,serial,movies..etc)🙏🙏now mind & brain both have right information after watching this podcast...
Maam your voice is so sweet and fluent
Thank you for this beautiful episode
Loved this soooooo much. Yes we need learned people like Ami Ganatra for true facts. Pleeeease stop people like BR Chopra, Sanjay Leela Bhansali, Rajamouli from making movies or serials spreading fake narrative, misinformation and also disinformation. 🙏Hats off to 'The Bhakti' of Chopra and or 'Creativity' Bhansali and Rajamouli but not at the cost of spreading fake narrative😭 !!! Then in such cases, do not give the names as Mahabharat or Padmavat or RRR 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️! Now this "New Mahabharat"!, do not know what kind of narrative this is going to spread now🤷♀️🙆♀️🙆♀️🙆♀️🙆♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why are you dragging SLB and Rajamouli?! They have made no serials and movies regarding Mahabharat and Ramayan. Blame Om Raut who made Adipurush (most wrong interpretation of Valmiki's Ramayan ever!).
Thank you so much!!! Maine apni life ke bahut bade prashn ka uttar yaha paa liyaa..... Now I am feeling so light. 💐💐
Konse prashn
Thank you thank you very much..... Really grateful to you for this work
Saadhuvaad aap dono ko. I watched the video till the end. Start to finish without break. 👍👍👍👍👍....
Wow! What a podcast and what a narrator of Mahabharat. Respect to the Lady.
I like your analysis and also of Karn . But saying Karn always wanted to be a danveer so that he gave his kavach and kundals is a wrong assumption . Nobody wants to give daan to be called a danveer . It was his natural instinct and Krishna also appreciated his danveerta because being a danveer was natural for him it came on its own not to show anybody that he was biggest donor.
वैसे तो महाभारत मै बहुत महावीर योद्धा थे......लेकिन वासुदेव श्री कृष्ण शिस्य अभिमन्यु अनूठा योद्धा था मैने सिर्फ अभिम्न्यु के लिऐ ये पूरा सुना लेकिन बहुत कुछ सीखने को मिला और प्रेरणादायक रहा।🙏🏽🙏🏽
Supremely enjoyable talk . I am now more curious to learn Sanskrit
Sanskrit Bharathi, The Sanskrit Channel (Uday Shreyas), Govt Sanskrit College in your own state. Plus several books by Geeta Press Gorakhpur
There are some wrong information in this debate regarding meat eating. There is no meat eating in Mahabharata and Ramayan. Do read sanskrit to hindi translation there is a word in Sanskrit called Maasam, that means fruits inside part....there is no mention of meat or fish at all. All these English translation done by Max Muller and his companions. There are 46 letters in Sanskrit and 26 letters in English. How can someone translate Sanskrit in English. Ye sab Kiya gya sirf hinduon ko badnaam krne ke liye 😡😡😡
@@abhimannukumarsingh8068 It wasn't Max Muller working by himself, we have to accept that medieval Hindus, particularly Brahmins are major cause of downfall. Just to get coveted jobs in Islamist n subsequently British states it's the Hindu Brahmins that forced changed the concept of Varna to mean caste. These Islamist Brahmins also reduced women to nothing.
Once someone immerses herself deep from the soul into the world's longest Mahakavya aka Mahabharatha, then only you can explain like she does... marvellous work by Ami Ganatra ji... jai hind..
A lot of her "arguments" are from her own incredulity or notion of how things should have happened.
Karna refusing to participate because of an insult is not arrogance, it is usual human reaction for a proud man. Achilles refuses to fight for his king because of the same reason. That is not a overreaction!
Ma'am you are great...ur knowledge is excellent and the command on ur subject is astounding....need a teacher like you in everybody's life...for marg darshak...
Bhang pe hai kya , aisa marg dharsak mila toh nark ki prapti dharti pe hii ho gayegi. 😂😂