@@MadanaBhatKhandige It was her experience seeing the effects of radical Protestantism under her brother and fanatical Catholicism under her sister that helped shape Elizabeth into the great monarch she became.
Madana Bhat-Khandige his greatest mistake was not being a better father, if he had treated Mary and her mother with kindness I dare say she wouldn’t have been so cruel.
One of history’s greatest ironies is Henry had Elizabeth’s mother beheaded because Elizabeth wasn’t a boy. It turned out that Elizabeth was the great heir he always wanted.
@@lindseyplumley180 historians have since proven that she wasnt guilty of any of the crimes he brought against her, but he went forward with them anyways so he could get rid of her and marry Jane Seymour in hopes of producing a male heir. Because back then, it was considered the mothers fault if the children werent born boys.
Annabeth Chase she was completely innocent, she love Henry but hated his infidelity and he grew angry at her for it and miscarrying twice after Elizabeth. I’m not surprised miscarriages were so common when women wore them into the second trimester. Basically squeezing the baby out of you
House of Normandy/Blois: 1066-1154. House of Plantagenet(Anjou/Lancaster/York): 1154-1485. House of Tudor: 1485-1603. House of Stuart/Orange: 1603-1714. House of Hanover: 1714-1901. Saxe-Coburg and Gotha/Windsor: 1901-Present. Just a little reference. Also, Fun Fact:. The Queen, Elizabeth II, is a direct descendant of William the Conqueror, Robert the Bruce and Alfred the Great.
@Hannah Dyson *Richard III defeated by Henry Tudor, who reigns as Henry VII. *Henry's second son succeeds him as Henry VIII. This Henry had six wives, but only three surviving children. *Edward VI spent all of his reign under a regency. He would try to change his father's will via a "Devise for the Succession". *Jane Grey, Edward's named successor, only reigned for 9 days and was eventually executed. * Mary I married Philip of Spain and imprisoned her half-sister. *Elizabeth I, the final monarch, defeated the Spanish Armada and had her cousin (Mary Queen of Scots) executed.
Worst of all, I am French and I can tell you that, at that time, it was a way of saying: do you shit well ? So Elizabeth isn't asking her father if his health is all right, she's asking him his digestive system fonctions well !
i mean, she’s literally his little girl, so she’s the only person in that entire room who’s NOT in any real danger of having her head chopped off if she makes the slightest mistake 😂😂😂
@@el8568 Her mother was highly intelligent and more highly educated than most English court ladies. Her father sent her, rather than her sister Mary, who wasn't as clever, to be educated in France at the royal courts there so she would be a shining star when she returned to the English court.......she was too successful for her own good......
@@el8568 Anne was sent to the Emperor's Aunt, Arch Duchess Margaret first and it seems Mary was jealous over that. Then they were both sent to France to serve Henry Vllls sister when she married the French king. So Anne had longer experience of serving at royal courts than Mary did. When the French king died Mary and Anne were kept on to serve Francois l's queen, Claude. t some point Mary had a brief affair with Francois and was sent home to serve Katherine of Aragon and had a brief affair with Henry Vlll before Anne too was sent home to England to serve Katherine of Aragon. I don;t think any woman had any choice when the great royal stalker set his cap at them. Anne was very intelligent which is what attracted the king to her but she could not translate from an adored pursued mistress to a submissive wife, which is what Henry expected. Jane was studiedly submissive, as she as coached to be by Anne's enemies but underneath she had a backbone of steel.
Mine is Catherine of Aragon. She and Mary deserve so much better but people only praise Anne and Elizabeth. Catherine ruled longer and saw different sides of Henry all other wives didn’t. She was a true queen. It’s amazing how most people never accepted Anne in favor of Catherine. Shows how great of a Queen she was. All the other queens years combined don’t match to her
She look afraid, little cute elizabeth when she find out that her dad Henry VIII killed her mom Anne. "Why are you here, brat daughter?" Asked Henry VIII with his menace face
Let's take into consideration exactly when this family reunion took place: december 1536. According to historical record, Henry brought back Elizabeth to court first time since her mother was alive, exactly 7 months after having her executed. Wonder if little Elizabeth was aware of what really happened. Yes she was little, but also very intelligent and perceptive. Maybe deep inside she was a little weary of her father but choose not to show it. Cudos to Michael Hirst for writting this little but amazing scenes. Tudors was a historical masterpiece
If you really know your Tudor history and, especially the 1518-1547 time period, you'll find out this series wasn't as inaccurate as people make it out to be. Yes, it took a few liberties but, all in all, it depicted all major events concerning Henry VIII, the reformation, pilgrimage of grace, his jousting accidents, field of cloth of gold, 1529 legatine court, 1528 sweatting sickness & others very much as they happened
Series de calidad I really read a lot about Tudor’s History from different sources, and a King young forever was a delicious dramatic license. And the inaccurate historical facts, were done through all the Serie. Quite different was the Spanish Serie: Isabel and the other one Carlos I of Spain and V of the Roman Apostolic Empire. By the way, Catalina de Aragon was blonde with blue eyes as her mother, the famous Isabel la Católica; not brunette as the Serie showed. Anyway, if you say that the series is historically accurate, it is up to you.
Catherine appears as a blonde blue-eyed princess in her early portraits, painted in Spain when she was young. However when she grew older in England her hair became dark with age, so her representation in the show wasn't that far off. As for JRM playing Henry: We have to remember that Henry was reportedly fit, athletic and handsome during his youth. It wasn't until his second jousting accident (january 24 1536) that he gained a lot of weight due to lack of excercise, since the pain in his leg prevented him from partaking in any jousts or sports he liked. Personally, I don't care if the actor doesn't necesarily resemble his/her historical portraith, and Maria Doyle Kennedy & JRM did a tremendous job in their respective roles. They embodied Catherine & Henry to a T, and the producers managed to age Henry in the last season, so there's that. P.S. We can continue this discusion in spanish if you preffer
When I see Henry first show his love as a father to Princess Mary then Princess Elizabeth I wonder how could he ever have stripped them of their birthright it was just heartless to me. He mentally and emotionally damaged his daughters one became Bloody Mary and Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth of England who ruled alone and ruled well.
I think he never hated his daughters,and never wanted to hurt or damaged them really,but this pure love which he showed towards them was rather about pleasing Jane,because he hoped so much a son,and it seemed to be possible again.And Jane always encouraged him to be nice with his children :) So i think this love was more about his general joy.
@@el8568 In actual fact, Jane only ever championed Mary, not Elizabeth, since Jane was staunchly Catholic. It was Henry's last wife, Katherine Parr, who persuaded Henry to put both Mary and Elizabeth back into the succession. And I doubt Henry ever had the emotional capacity to hate anyone, let alone his daughters. He simply despised intransigence, and was financially (and emotionally) neglectful rather than maliciously abusive, I think. The Tudors took a LOT of liberties with Henry's characterisation - he would not have viewed his daughters with this much open and modern affection, with or without a son in the picture.
Well,in the Tudors Jane sent clothes(or money for them)to Elizabeth,and she seemed to be very friendly with her in this scene as well.And real Jane Seymour convinced Henry to take back both of the princesses to court.So i think she was good to both of her stepchildren.
@@el8568 There was never any proof that Jane Seymour spoke up for Elizabeth, only Mary. As I said, the Tudors took a lot of liberty with characterisation. I think people wanted to frame Jane as this Virgin Mary character, when she was very much in the middle of Tudor politics and played favourites like the rest. Her staunchly Catholic position meant she championed Mary to be restored as heir in a bid to legitimize her by implication instead of by word. She might have assisted Elizabeth in monies or clothes, but she would never have championed for her to be received back at court or openly acknowledged as Henry's child, bastard or no. There's a limit to a Queen's charity, and acknowledgement of sin (the sin of bastardy included) in open court is not a line to be crossed by a Queen looking to be seen as morally righteous. (Double standards, I know, since Henry Fitzroy was openly accepted, but he was accepted by the King, and therefore, by everybody)
Look into the history of Henry coming to the throne. England was in turmoil and civil unrest for a loooooong time. Henry had to secure a bloodline so that a war between his own people wouldn't break out. Unfortunately people didn't think the way we think now. I'm sure Henry loved his children very much but he had a whole country to think about. He needed a male heir to appease his neigh Sayers and supporters.
Everyone talks about this wife or that wife and who was the best, can we all just agree that Henry was an absolute cad who didn't deserve any of his six wives?
After Elizabeth came to court later on as a teen, Henry was so impressed with her that he commissioned a painting of her, an this revealed her smartness.
I believe Henry bowed down to Elizabeth when she crossed over. I think Elizabeth easily outranks Henry as a leading English monarch. She is the successor, the last of the Tudors to be proud of. :)
Nice scene. Jane Seymour did singlehandedly reconcile Henry with his daughter Mary, and to a lesser extent, with his other daughter Elizabeth as well. In the time following immediately after her mother's downfall and execution, Henry did neglect Elizabeth, but not in a malicious way -- more like in a disinterested way. He'd been disappointed in her gender at her birth, but it's not like he hated or shunned her. He was fond of her, in the general way he was fond of children, and he took pride in her academic accomplishments. And though some expected him to deny she was even his, after Anne was (falsely) disgraced as an adulteress, he always acknowledged that she was his. Hell, she looked a lot like him; maybe it flattered his ego. Neither Mary nor his prized son Edward looked much like him at all -- they resembled their respective mothers.
Not only did Elizabeth look like him, she had his temperament as well. Just like her father she was known for her outbursts, and her beheading Mary Queen of Scots was akin to him beheading her mother.
@@jjh2456 Executing Mary Queen of Scots wasn't done on a whim however. Elisabeth had Mary imprisoned in 1569 and executed in 1587. Elisabeth did not want to execute another queen. Mary was found guilty of conspiracy against Elisabeth in october of 1586 by a court of judges, but Elisabeth didn't sign the death warrant until february of 1587. It was a political move and not a whim lout of frustration like Anne's execution was.
If only Henry knew that his glorious successor, the great heir he always craved, would not be a son, but a daughter, the daughter of the wife he had executed for failing to give him a boy. The greatest irony in English history.
I wish they would have included Mary's reaction to Elizabeth's presence. She had been forced to serve Elizabeth as a lady-in-waiting when Anne Boelyn was Queen.
@@gidzmobug2323 And? That didn't come into play until later when Elizabeth was actually old enough to have her own opinions on religion. During Henry's reign they were both just trying to survive.
What's painful is the fact that Queen Jane reunited Henry with Mary, but pretty much ignored Elizabeth. Yes, this is a sweet scene, but it is completely fictional.
She didn't live long enough to raise her own precious male child, or to enjoy a queens crown, I'll say that's a well deserved karma. Of all his wives, I hated her. In the end Anne got the last laugh
@@anycullen21 Considering hygiene practices weren't the norm back then. Catherine Parr also died of childbed fever as did Henry's own mother. Karma had little to do with it.
Yep, part of the deal for becoming Queen was getting Mary back in the Succession, she had no time or interest for Elizabeth. Mary did love her little sister but she certainly had no influence at that point. Jane was probably the least kind of the queens, she once dismissed a lady for not having enough pearls on her gown.
@@einezcrespo2107 And yet when Jane and Henry married it was 11 days after Anne's execution, then when Jane gave birth the following year she died exactly 11 days later. I agree karma had little to do with it but you have to love the irony of it.
Fun fact: when Anne boleyn was pregnant with Elizabeth, Henry thought she is pregnant with son so he crowed her with King's crown (only Queen consort in history who wore Monarch's crown). So technically Queen Elizabeth was crowed and anointed before her birth, so she was born Queen.
I’ve never watched this show before, but if I learned anything from my 9th grade world history class, this scene is both adorable and tragically dark at the same time.
Everytime Henry looked at Elizabeth...he gets this dazed look in his eyes, as if he's remembering a past love. Of course I'm talking about Anne Boleyn. Even though Elizabeth hair was red as his (they did not give him red hair in the show for some reason), she was clearly her mother's child. He thought back to happier times with Anne Boleyn everytime he saw Elizabeth.
Seriously! Even when others recount that horrible event in history , I always think it was a conspiracy with the other nobles to have Henry remove her so they can play the political game with a "queen" of their own or plainly thinking he will be easier to manipulate behind the scenes. Using a number of excuses to secure this like she couldn't produce a male heir, she's a bad influence with the whole Queen Catherine scenario, and then with this alleged affair (to which with common sense I believe will tell most people she was innocent of). Just so wrong! I still wonder why Elizabeth as Queen never declared her innocent post mortem, clear her reputation and name, or in some way politically maneuvered it to be so with time! 😤 Seriously, gets me going. Lol.😥
Sarah Jones Well since there is no portrait of Anne we’ll never be certain, however I read the Anne had dark hair & dark complexion, so I think every time he looked at Elizabeth he saw himself. Just an observation, I could be wrong!
@@mariev6108 People were definitely in Henry's ear about Anne. She took one of his close companions down, and you best believe other's in Henry's court felt threatened by her. If you haven't I would suggest watching the documentary Henry and Anne: The Lover's Who Changed History. It is a very good documentary and goes in depth about their relationship.
@@mariev6108 she knew it would have been a bad move politically. The people still regarded Anne as a whore at the time. Privately though she loved her mother it is said, and learned from her execution not to marry and bring a King into the picture, and there is a painting of her wearing a "B" necklace, i THINK for Boleyn.
@@Janellabelle She also had a signet ring with a portrait of Anne and I believe a locket as well that she literally never took off until it was removed after her death.
Jane did well by those girls, I have no doubt that had she lived they would have both been happy wives and mothers one day (though perhaps not queens).
@Hannah Dyson Jane was Queen for a short while. It took her a while to get Mary restored to Henry's good graces, and she had to tread very carefully with that. She would have had to work for Elizabeth with more care, as Anne Boelyn was not a popular Queen.
@@jjh2456 Had Jane lived, I think she would have worked for Elizabeth's restoration as well. Jane had only been Queen for a short while before she died (shortly after childbirth).
Personally, I've always believed Jane was a snake, and her modest demeanor was an act. She was egging Henry on to remove Anne along with the Seymour faction and Cromwell, and she seemed to step pretty coldly into Anne's blood stained shoes. As for her motives to reconcile Henry with Mary, consider this. Jane's main motivation, naturally, would be for her own children to rule. What if she was as equally unlucky as Katherine and Anne and only gave Henry a girl? She needed to make sure that Mary and Elizabeth were out of the picture. Yes, they were declared bastards and disinherited, however, the public favoured Mary and Mary never gave in and admitted she was a bastard.... so what better way to get her to do so than to get Henry to accept her, but only on his terms by forcing her to denounce her claim to the throne? And it worked. Mary gave in, though of course she always regretted it. But for Jane, this was a dynastic victory.... she could pretend she did it out of love and sympathy, but she profited quite a bit from it as well. Now, Jane herself wasn't particularly clever, but her brother Edward certainly was. My guess is he put her up to it.
While this looked terribly cute Jane Seymour didn't really pay much attention to Elizabeth. It was Lady Bryan who had to write Cromwell for Elizabeth's needs like new clothes and such.
@Sadie Mezzo Considering Jane did serve as one Catherine Aragons lady in waiting and she supplanted Anne Bolyen. Mary did pity Elizabeth and shared her good fortune with her half sister once she was welcomed back at court. Anne of Cleves and Catherine Parr were fond of both girls.
Anne Boleyn was my favorite among Henry's wives. Sure she is ruthless and treated Catherine of Aragon badly so as to Mary 1 but the things that made me like her so much was her great love for her daughter Elizabeth. She would always be one of England's finest and greatest queen.
@@moranbracha7009 Not true. Anne was initially disappointed but she quickly got over and there is evidence that she adored Elizabeth and visited her as much as she could and she spent lavishly on her.
This show doesn't do Anne justice. There's no evidence that either Anne or her family ever plotted for her to marry Henry. There's actually an account of Thomas Boleyn trying to dissuade him from marrying her. True she didn't get along with Mary, but Henry was more to blame for her and Catherine's suffering than Anne who in reality wouldn't have had much of a say in the matter. And Anne did try several times to make peace with Mary but she rebuffed them all. At the time of her death she wrote to her pleading for forgiveness. And while we don't really know what her relationship with Catherine was like the fact that she wore yellow (the traditional colour of mourning in Spain) after hearing of her death implies that she had some level of respect for her former mistress. Little known fun fact is that Anne was also heavily involved in a lot of charity work.
I just started watching this a few weeks ago and all I can say is HOW DID I EVER MISS THIS GEM.....wow wow wow... first of all, the costumes OMG and then the two lead actors OMG. How come this didn’t win anything.... and the history... now I’m going to have to dig deeper, even though I was never a fan of history, this is FASCINATING
While seeing the tudors series. I didn't understand why the very little heroic moment given to Elizabeth character. Later on when I read the history, I understood that this character deserves everything. I am from 🇮🇳.
Princess Elizabeth was extremely intelligence just like her parents. Anne was extremely well educated and had natural intelligent for her time period. Henry VIII was intelligent and people always forget he was educated to become Archbishop of Canterbury Head of the Roman Catholic Church in England while his older brother The Prince of Wales Prince Arthur would have been King of England. Elizabeth of all Henry's children had the most rounded of royal educations learning both statecraft, decorum, household management & bookkeeping (from Ann of Cleaves), lots of languages as well as the importance of religion because her mother was so well educated. She and her brother Prince Edward shared tutors at one point. Elizabeth was Edward's 1st tutor in Latin and languages.
@Nenethegreat W If his old brother Arthur Tudor The Prince Of Wales had lived then Henry Tudor The Duke of York would have been Head of the Roman Catholic Church in England as Archbishop of Canterbury.
I liked Jane, especially as portrayed by Annabelle Wallis. She presented a much softer portrayal than Anita Briem who started out as the character. But poor Elizabeth, she looked positively scared. I've always wondered how Mary and Elizabeth truly felt about their father after what he did to their mothers. Did they really love him in spite of his acts, or did they act like they did just to keep their heads? Of course, no one really knows.
While I thought Anne was horrible and ruthless in her treatment of Katherine of Aragon and Princess Mary, I do not think that she was guilty of the crimes that got her beheaded. She liked being Henry's queen so much that she wouldn't have done anything to jeopardize that. But as they say, if he cheats with you, he'll cheat on you. She learned the hard way that she wasn't as important to Henry as she believed.
@@rocketmom60 I think in history Anne actually wanted to Marry Henry Percy but her Father and uncle pushed her in front of the king so she could become his mistress.
It's also possible he had McLeods Syndrome because of all the inbreeding. Plus that coupled with the fact that his grandmother doted on him and never said no, he was the biggest spoiled brat in history
Nah, even before that when he tried to pole vault over a creek and landed on his head, I believe that was a traumatic brain injury that got worse over time.
Mary and Elizabeth (and future baby brother Edward) were very close as children because Henry's presence united them but it was the throne and the crown that divided them. I believe Henry loved his children it's just that he couldn't express it well just like with Queen Victoria and her 9 children.
@@ButtonsCasey So, you didn't birth me a boy and you flirt/sleep with other men (which in itself can be debated) exactly what I do with other women was political? Besides even if its true it still gave no right for the fat bastard to kill them
Elizabeth and Edward were close. When Edward became king, he did not see her as often as he would have liked. Mary was Edward's godmother, but religious differences drove a wedge between them when Edward was king.
At least Henry showed his love for his daughter when she was little. Even little bit of love from him is great. And Jane she loves the relationship between the two that's good actually. But alas poor Elizabeth. I know how it feels to grow up when you don't have a mother and her love and your father is a tyrant.
Actually this is quite fictional. Jane didn't care much for Elizabeth. It was Catherine Parr who was responsible for getting both Mary and Elizabeth back In the Line of Succession. She was the far more capable stepmother. Not saying Jane was bad. She was fond of Mary but ignored Elizabeth.
Seeing how uncertain and scared the little girl was, so unsure her own father would accept her. Made me feel so sad for her. She must have felt so alone.
Elizabeth had her father’s red hair and mother’s dark eyes. Interesting that they stuck with the red hair for this series when Henry and Anne were both portrayed with black hair and blue eyes.
I think Jane tried to restore a semblance of a family for Henry. Had she lived longer, she might have succeeded. Katherine Parr also worked to bring a semblance of family.
That was the idea. Everybody remembers Henry as old and fat, but when he was young, he was handsome. Trouble was, this series kept him young and hot right up to the end. Mind you, the whole thing bore very little resemblance to historical fact.
i see and feel that he is affected whenever he sees his daughter Elizabeth. I think bc who her mother was also they how felt, everything that happened, and how it ended.
When this supposedly took place, Elizabeth would have been about 3 years old. She was born in Sept 1533,and this was christmastide 1536. The actress is about 8. Elizabeth was a toddler, not an accomplished speaker of several languages.
He was famous for saying he was very proud of her and wished he could love her more but every time he looked at her he saw her mother which is crazy because Elizabeth looked more like him she just had her mother's eyes. I think he just felt guilty
Elizabeth was just like her mother and treated and talked to her father as just father rather then the King he was. She was wicked intelligent just like her mother and very rarely held her tongue when talking about her beliefs and opinions. I believe that had Ann lived those two women would have been a power house in pushing the kingdom further into prosperity. He would have had his hands full with keeping them both out of trouble. However I also believe that had Ann lived Mary and Elizabeth would not have had the relationship they did before Mary became Queen. Elizabeth backed her sister whole heartedly against their brothers decision to put Jane on the throne. What I don't get is why didn't he choose Elizabeth because she was also Protestant if I remember correctly. He could have had her birth relegitamized and no longer a bastard child of the king. Either way the relationship between the sisters is, I believe, the biggest reason why Mary never would have had her executed while she was imprisoned. Regardless of Mary's deteriorating mentality she loved her little sister regardless of her birth. And that came about by them both being declared Bastards and no longer in the line of Succession.
to add these comments below about Margaret Pole : Katherine Howard is said to show her kindness by sending warm clothes to Margaret Pole in tower of London
He took one look at her ...realized she really IS like him (at one point he had called her illegitimate and not his) and knew immediately who she was and brought her to him. She might've been scared of him...
Jane Seymour is the underrated queen. She managed to keep her head intact, and while staying as the silent and calm wife, she also managed for crazy-all-mighty Henry to take his daughters back.
I’ve tried to wrack my brain and figure out who Henry’s best Queen was and I can’t come to a conclusion. Henry’s queens were strong and wilful in their own way, I just wish that their lives didn’t end as they did..
i think with anne and henry (at least in the show) it's a lot more about passion and excitement. Once he didn't have to chase her anymore the excitement was gone, especially once she was pregnant; because she stopped putting on the mysterious, catch-me-if-you-can act. Her fieriness that used to be attractive to him became an annoyance and interference. Henry and Jane is a lot more relaxed- like he's decided to settle down, and it helps that she has the patience to avoid his temper and avoid confrontation. Plus of course she gave him a son. It's more than likely that had she survived, he would have had a mistress on the side.
Jane wasn't as kind as she was remembered to be. Nor as stupid. The Seymours were a notorious bunch, and Jane was no exception. She was alot like her predecessor, Anne Boleyn herself, but she hid her true feelings and nature far away.
@@Zaramakeupartist+ No one's, really. It's just how she was remembered. Jane had a part to play, and she played it well. She was kind *to* people, but she wasn't a necessarily *kind* person. She wasn't evil either, mind. More used by her family more than anything, but she didn't really care about who got hurt when they were in her way.
He wanted a more compliant wife after Anne. Because Jane's life was so short we would never know what she was really like. She may be kind and meek but she did come from a very ambitious family. Who knows? Maybe an older Jane Seymour may have been a tough and influential woman had she lived.
I personally thought this was a sweet moment, the reality that he cast aside his daughters but on this Christmas special he was happy to have both his daughters there
The lady in the beginning was Margaret Pole💔 RIP
Amy the future VS Angel you’re very right
This was when Jane Seymour was Queen. Margaret Pole was executed when Katherine Howard was Queen.
Grumpy Valeria Messalina no she had Grandchildren
I hear her death wasn't so easy either.. Quite gruesome actually.
Gabriella A Princess, actually the rightfull heir. And instead we got Henry VIII
damn, if only Henry knew his daughter Elizabeth would be England's greatest monarch
Marcus Aurelius indeed: his greatest mistake was not ranking Elizabeth above Mary.
Madana Bhat-Khandige and why should he do that? Mary was the oldest and rightful heir to the throne
@@MadanaBhatKhandige It was her experience seeing the effects of radical Protestantism under her brother and fanatical Catholicism under her sister that helped shape Elizabeth into the great monarch she became.
Madana Bhat-Khandige his greatest mistake was not being a better father, if he had treated Mary and her mother with kindness I dare say she wouldn’t have been so cruel.
She probably did when she died
One of history’s greatest ironies is Henry had Elizabeth’s mother beheaded because Elizabeth wasn’t a boy. It turned out that Elizabeth was the great heir he always wanted.
I thought he had her beheaded because she went around sleeping with other guys
@@lindseyplumley180 historians have since proven that she wasnt guilty of any of the crimes he brought against her, but he went forward with them anyways so he could get rid of her and marry Jane Seymour in hopes of producing a male heir. Because back then, it was considered the mothers fault if the children werent born boys.
Annabeth Chase she was completely innocent, she love Henry but hated his infidelity and he grew angry at her for it and miscarrying twice after Elizabeth. I’m not surprised miscarriages were so common when women wore them into the second trimester. Basically squeezing the baby out of you
@@lindseyplumley180 cool name, Wise Girl!
lakbira chbani that was disproven. Poor Anne was completely innocent
The Tudor House was the shortest reigning house in England's history. Yet the one with lasting legacies.
Stuarts reigned 7 years less actually. And let's not forget house Normandy or Saxe-Coburg Gotha.
Mostly to do with the development of the state and the rule of law.
@@Porterhaus94How it works.....
*Victoria: Hanover
*Edward VII: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
*George V: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. (1910-mid-1917), Windsor (mid-1917-1936).
*Edward VIII onward: Windsor.
House of Normandy/Blois: 1066-1154.
House of Plantagenet(Anjou/Lancaster/York): 1154-1485.
House of Tudor: 1485-1603.
House of Stuart/Orange: 1603-1714.
House of Hanover: 1714-1901.
Saxe-Coburg and Gotha/Windsor: 1901-Present.
Just a little reference. Also, Fun Fact:. The Queen, Elizabeth II, is a direct descendant of William the Conqueror, Robert the Bruce and Alfred the Great.
@Hannah Dyson
*Richard III defeated by Henry Tudor, who reigns as Henry VII.
*Henry's second son succeeds him as Henry VIII. This Henry had six wives, but only three surviving children.
*Edward VI spent all of his reign under a regency. He would try to change his father's will via a "Devise for the Succession".
*Jane Grey, Edward's named successor, only reigned for 9 days and was eventually executed.
* Mary I married Philip of Spain and imprisoned her half-sister.
*Elizabeth I, the final monarch, defeated the Spanish Armada and had her cousin (Mary Queen of Scots) executed.
It's funny hearing Elizabeth say "ça va?" to the king since it's basically the French equivalent of "what's up?"
LMAO
Sooooo......
Elizabeth throwing shade at age of 6
Worst of all, I am French and I can tell you that, at that time, it was a way of saying: do you shit well ? So Elizabeth isn't asking her father if his health is all right, she's asking him his digestive system fonctions well !
XD LOLLLL
Everyone else: *acts formal and bootlicks in front of Henry VIII*
Elizabeth: *Straight up casually asks 'What's up'*
And THAT is why she became THE QUEEN 😂.
If u watch the forst episodes of season one, Mary also did that
"How's it going?"
Such a little creature can say anything she feels like :D Well,later she also learn how to "behave" in front of the king.
i mean, she’s literally his little girl, so she’s the only person in that entire room who’s NOT in any real danger of having her head chopped off if she makes the slightest mistake 😂😂😂
0:41 Imagine, in a hall full of strangers, the strangest is the man who is your father.
Tarannum Rana this comment hurts like no other
I know the feeling
Our lives are far better than the royals
That's deep
I can relate to that more then I wished to
Elizabeth : '' father, when i grow up, im going to destroy the spanish navy ''
VC YT so true the so great spanish armada
Henry: ok Elizabeth go bk to bed...Jesus that child
Cont.: "... with the wind joining my army. I'll destroy the Spanish navy to bits."
And end the Tudor Dynasty
"Anne, did you do this?"
He saw in Anne in her, you see it on his face when Elizabeth came in front of him
I agree she’s definitely Anne’s daughter
She had nothing from her mother.This little child was innocent and lovely,and real Elisabeth was ways more intelligent than her mother.
@@el8568 Her mother was highly intelligent and more highly educated than most English court ladies. Her father sent her, rather than her sister Mary, who wasn't as clever, to be educated in France at the royal courts there so she would be a shining star when she returned to the English court.......she was too successful for her own good......
In season 4 these kind a moments became obvious
He even says it himself to Anne's ghost
@@el8568 Anne was sent to the Emperor's Aunt, Arch Duchess Margaret first and it seems Mary was jealous over that. Then they were both sent to France to serve Henry Vllls sister when she married the French king. So Anne had longer experience of serving at royal courts than Mary did. When the French king died Mary and Anne were kept on to serve Francois l's queen, Claude. t some point Mary had a brief affair with Francois and was sent home to serve Katherine of Aragon and had a brief affair with Henry Vlll before Anne too was sent home to England to serve Katherine of Aragon. I don;t think any woman had any choice when the great royal stalker set his cap at them. Anne was very intelligent which is what attracted the king to her but she could not translate from an adored pursued mistress to a submissive wife, which is what Henry expected. Jane was studiedly submissive, as she as coached to be by Anne's enemies but underneath she had a backbone of steel.
I like how when Elizabeth appeared, they played Anne Boleyn’s theme. Anne is my favorite English queen
Mine is Catherine of Aragon. She and Mary deserve so much better but people only praise Anne and Elizabeth. Catherine ruled longer and saw different sides of Henry all other wives didn’t. She was a true queen. It’s amazing how most people never accepted Anne in favor of Catherine. Shows how great of a Queen she was. All the other queens years combined don’t match to her
Anne Boleyn was wrongfully convicted and killed for nothing - yet she wasn't a saint or a martyr.
Omg yes they do deserve so much better people act like Elizabeth and Anne walk on water
Lol she casually said "What's up, Your Majesty? "
Well I mean it is her Dad
That’s the same energy as me saying ‘hey bitch’ to a friend I haven’t seen since summer last year
@@SjofnBM1989 lol but she is not supposed to. Even Mary addresses her father as Your Majesty.
@@allanaalberto9730bruv its a child
She look afraid, little cute elizabeth when she find out that her dad Henry VIII killed her mom Anne. "Why are you here, brat daughter?" Asked Henry VIII with his menace face
He said that?
@@ashleywines8374 no😂
Henry still love Anne and His daughter he still love Anne Boleyn
@@lindensims4969 Well Henry VIII was worst father 😡
@@lindensims4969 He KILLED Anne simply because she couldn't give him a boy and he grew tired of her. You call this ''love''?
Let's take into consideration exactly when this family reunion took place: december 1536. According to historical record, Henry brought back Elizabeth to court first time since her mother was alive, exactly 7 months after having her executed. Wonder if little Elizabeth was aware of what really happened. Yes she was little, but also very intelligent and perceptive. Maybe deep inside she was a little weary of her father but choose not to show it. Cudos to Michael Hirst for writting this little but amazing scenes. Tudors was a historical masterpiece
Series de calidad It was not a historical masterpiece. It was full of historical
mistakes, but I have to recognize that it was a successful show.
If you really know your Tudor history and, especially the 1518-1547 time period, you'll find out this series wasn't as inaccurate as people make it out to be. Yes, it took a few liberties but, all in all, it depicted all major events concerning Henry VIII, the reformation, pilgrimage of grace, his jousting accidents, field of cloth of gold, 1529 legatine court, 1528 sweatting sickness & others very much as they happened
Series de calidad I really read a lot about Tudor’s History from different sources, and a King young forever was a delicious dramatic license. And the inaccurate historical facts, were done through all the Serie.
Quite different was the Spanish Serie: Isabel and the other one Carlos I of Spain and V of the Roman Apostolic Empire.
By the way, Catalina de Aragon was blonde with blue eyes as her mother, the famous Isabel la Católica; not brunette as the Serie showed.
Anyway, if you say that the series is historically accurate, it is up to you.
Catherine appears as a blonde blue-eyed princess in her early portraits, painted in Spain when she was young. However when she grew older in England her hair became dark with age, so her representation in the show wasn't that far off. As for JRM playing Henry: We have to remember that Henry was reportedly fit, athletic and handsome during his youth. It wasn't until his second jousting accident (january 24 1536) that he gained a lot of weight due to lack of excercise, since the pain in his leg prevented him from partaking in any jousts or sports he liked. Personally, I don't care if the actor doesn't necesarily resemble his/her historical portraith, and Maria Doyle Kennedy & JRM did a tremendous job in their respective roles. They embodied Catherine & Henry to a T, and the producers managed to age Henry in the last season, so there's that.
P.S. We can continue this discusion in spanish if you preffer
Series de calidad No way,thanks you kind offer.
When I see Henry first show his love as a father to Princess Mary then Princess Elizabeth I wonder how could he ever have stripped them of their birthright it was just heartless to me. He mentally and emotionally damaged his daughters one became Bloody Mary and Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth of England who ruled alone and ruled well.
I think he never hated his daughters,and never wanted to hurt or damaged them really,but this pure love which he showed towards them was rather about pleasing Jane,because he hoped so much a son,and it seemed to be possible again.And Jane always encouraged him to be nice with his children :) So i think this love was more about his general joy.
@@el8568 In actual fact, Jane only ever championed Mary, not Elizabeth, since Jane was staunchly Catholic. It was Henry's last wife, Katherine Parr, who persuaded Henry to put both Mary and Elizabeth back into the succession.
And I doubt Henry ever had the emotional capacity to hate anyone, let alone his daughters. He simply despised intransigence, and was financially (and emotionally) neglectful rather than maliciously abusive, I think. The Tudors took a LOT of liberties with Henry's characterisation - he would not have viewed his daughters with this much open and modern affection, with or without a son in the picture.
Well,in the Tudors Jane sent clothes(or money for them)to Elizabeth,and she seemed to be very friendly with her in this scene as well.And real Jane Seymour convinced Henry to take back both of the princesses to court.So i think she was good to both of her stepchildren.
@@el8568 There was never any proof that Jane Seymour spoke up for Elizabeth, only Mary. As I said, the Tudors took a lot of liberty with characterisation. I think people wanted to frame Jane as this Virgin Mary character, when she was very much in the middle of Tudor politics and played favourites like the rest. Her staunchly Catholic position meant she championed Mary to be restored as heir in a bid to legitimize her by implication instead of by word. She might have assisted Elizabeth in monies or clothes, but she would never have championed for her to be received back at court or openly acknowledged as Henry's child, bastard or no. There's a limit to a Queen's charity, and acknowledgement of sin (the sin of bastardy included) in open court is not a line to be crossed by a Queen looking to be seen as morally righteous. (Double standards, I know, since Henry Fitzroy was openly accepted, but he was accepted by the King, and therefore, by everybody)
Look into the history of Henry coming to the throne. England was in turmoil and civil unrest for a loooooong time. Henry had to secure a bloodline so that a war between his own people wouldn't break out. Unfortunately people didn't think the way we think now. I'm sure Henry loved his children very much but he had a whole country to think about. He needed a male heir to appease his neigh Sayers and supporters.
Everyone talks about this wife or that wife and who was the best, can we all just agree that Henry was an absolute cad who didn't deserve any of his six wives?
He was the king
Well, it goes without saying.
After Elizabeth came to court later on as a teen, Henry was so impressed with her that he commissioned a painting of her, an this revealed her smartness.
I believe Henry bowed down to Elizabeth when she crossed over. I think Elizabeth easily outranks Henry as a leading English monarch. She is the successor, the last of the Tudors to be proud of. :)
She was a great Queen, for sure. I like to think Anne would have been proud of her.
Nice scene. Jane Seymour did singlehandedly reconcile Henry with his daughter Mary, and to a lesser extent, with his other daughter Elizabeth as well. In the time following immediately after her mother's downfall and execution, Henry did neglect Elizabeth, but not in a malicious way -- more like in a disinterested way. He'd been disappointed in her gender at her birth, but it's not like he hated or shunned her. He was fond of her, in the general way he was fond of children, and he took pride in her academic accomplishments. And though some expected him to deny she was even his, after Anne was (falsely) disgraced as an adulteress, he always acknowledged that she was his. Hell, she looked a lot like him; maybe it flattered his ego. Neither Mary nor his prized son Edward looked much like him at all -- they resembled their respective mothers.
No need to glorify Henry.
The science of genetics was unknown till the 19th century.
She was smart and royal and Henry VIII always valued that.
Not only did Elizabeth look like him, she had his temperament as well. Just like her father she was known for her outbursts, and her beheading Mary Queen of Scots was akin to him beheading her mother.
@@jjh2456 Executing Mary Queen of Scots wasn't done on a whim however. Elisabeth had Mary imprisoned in 1569 and executed in 1587. Elisabeth did not want to execute another queen. Mary was found guilty of conspiracy against Elisabeth in october of 1586 by a court of judges, but Elisabeth didn't sign the death warrant until february of 1587. It was a political move and not a whim lout of frustration like Anne's execution was.
If only Henry knew that his glorious successor, the great heir he always craved, would not be a son, but a daughter, the daughter of the wife he had executed for failing to give him a boy. The greatest irony in English history.
What about Mary?
Elizabeth’s like
Your in my *sit*
I wish they would have included Mary's reaction to Elizabeth's presence. She had been forced to serve Elizabeth as a lady-in-waiting when Anne Boelyn was Queen.
From what I've read Mary didn't necessarily hold anything against Elizabeth until she became Queen and started getting paranoid.
@@SheBeastJehanne Mary was Catholic; Elizabeth was Protestant. Mary wanted to turn England back to the Roman faith and wanted Elizabeth to convert.
The scene w hen Elizabeth was crying as a baby, Mary comforted and sang to her. So I think she had some love for Elizabeth.
@@gidzmobug2323 And? That didn't come into play until later when Elizabeth was actually old enough to have her own opinions on religion. During Henry's reign they were both just trying to survive.
@@3piper Until she became Queen and people did not always believe as she did, or looked forward to her marriage to Philip of Spain.
What's painful is the fact that Queen Jane reunited Henry with Mary, but pretty much ignored Elizabeth. Yes, this is a sweet scene, but it is completely fictional.
She didn't live long enough to raise her own precious male child, or to enjoy a queens crown, I'll say that's a well deserved karma. Of all his wives, I hated her. In the end Anne got the last laugh
@@anycullen21 I agree
@@anycullen21 Considering hygiene practices weren't the norm back then. Catherine Parr also died of childbed fever as did Henry's own mother. Karma had little to do with it.
Yep, part of the deal for becoming Queen was getting Mary back in the Succession, she had no time or interest for Elizabeth. Mary did love her little sister but she certainly had no influence at that point. Jane was probably the least kind of the queens, she once dismissed a lady for not having enough pearls on her gown.
@@einezcrespo2107 And yet when Jane and Henry married it was 11 days after Anne's execution, then when Jane gave birth the following year she died exactly 11 days later. I agree karma had little to do with it but you have to love the irony of it.
So technically, of all Henry's kids, Elizabeth sat on the throne first and last, lol
It's actually Henry’s Fitzroy.
Fun fact: when Anne boleyn was pregnant with Elizabeth, Henry thought she is pregnant with son so he crowed her with King's crown (only Queen consort in history who wore Monarch's crown).
So technically Queen Elizabeth was crowed and anointed before her birth, so she was born Queen.
I’ve never watched this show before, but if I learned anything from my 9th grade world history class, this scene is both adorable and tragically dark at the same time.
Omfg...lol I love your profile picture and your name! Lol 😆 🤣
*Gracefully bowing down to you*
Your Majesty.
Take it with a pinch of salt though, as it's not 100% accurate particularly with their portrayal of Anne Boleyn.
Everytime Henry looked at Elizabeth...he gets this dazed look in his eyes, as if he's remembering a past love. Of course I'm talking about Anne Boleyn. Even though Elizabeth hair was red as his (they did not give him red hair in the show for some reason), she was clearly her mother's child. He thought back to happier times with Anne Boleyn everytime he saw Elizabeth.
ANNE was his great love always,the wicked Cromwell (my ancestor) caused so many problems.
Great acting ..
@Nenethegreat W I didn't see that look on him
I. Argee with you Anne Boleyn was his truly love of Henry and she was innocent
All projection and speculation. By that point he already forgot and moved on from Anne. He was a horrible man, stop humanizing him.
@@lindensims4969 Henry's true love was power.
*Elizabeth, the pride of the Tudors. One of the greatest monarchs of England, and of the world.*
The transition from Anne's theme to Jane's theme in this scene is so beautiful and symbolic, love goes on even for a monster like Henry lol
This was one of the rare times when Henry was, actually, a good father to Elizabeth; whom he couldn't bear to look because she reminded him of Anne
Elizabeth feels at last her father’s fleeting love 😌
I feel like Jonathan's voice was just MADE to speak in French I love how it sounds
i feel like when ever the king sees his daughter elizabeth he sees anne boleyn in her and what happened between them
Seriously! Even when others recount that horrible event in history , I always think it was a conspiracy with the other nobles to have Henry remove her so they can play the political game with a "queen" of their own or plainly thinking he will be easier to manipulate behind the scenes. Using a number of excuses to secure this like she couldn't produce a male heir, she's a bad influence with the whole Queen Catherine scenario, and then with this alleged affair (to which with common sense I believe will tell most people she was innocent of). Just so wrong! I still wonder why Elizabeth as Queen never declared her innocent post mortem, clear her reputation and name, or in some way politically maneuvered it to be so with time! 😤
Seriously, gets me going. Lol.😥
Sarah Jones Well since there is no portrait of Anne we’ll never be certain, however I read the Anne had dark hair & dark complexion, so I think every time he looked at Elizabeth he saw himself. Just an observation, I could be wrong!
@@mariev6108 People were definitely in Henry's ear about Anne. She took one of his close companions down, and you best believe other's in Henry's court felt threatened by her. If you haven't I would suggest watching the documentary Henry and Anne: The Lover's Who Changed History. It is a very good documentary and goes in depth about their relationship.
@@mariev6108 she knew it would have been a bad move politically. The people still regarded Anne as a whore at the time. Privately though she loved her mother it is said, and learned from her execution not to marry and bring a King into the picture, and there is a painting of her wearing a "B" necklace, i THINK for Boleyn.
@@Janellabelle She also had a signet ring with a portrait of Anne and I believe a locket as well that she literally never took off until it was removed after her death.
You can faintly hear Anne’s theme when Henry sees Elizabeth 😢
Jane did well by those girls, I have no doubt that had she lived they would have both been happy wives and mothers one day (though perhaps not queens).
Def not queens has she had more sons
@Hannah Dyson Jane was Queen for a short while. It took her a while to get Mary restored to Henry's good graces, and she had to tread very carefully with that. She would have had to work for Elizabeth with more care, as Anne Boelyn was not a popular Queen.
It was Katherine Parr that brought Elizabeth back to court and into the succession, not Jane.
@@jjh2456 Had Jane lived, I think she would have worked for Elizabeth's restoration as well. Jane had only been Queen for a short while before she died (shortly after childbirth).
Personally, I've always believed Jane was a snake, and her modest demeanor was an act. She was egging Henry on to remove Anne along with the Seymour faction and Cromwell, and she seemed to step pretty coldly into Anne's blood stained shoes. As for her motives to reconcile Henry with Mary, consider this. Jane's main motivation, naturally, would be for her own children to rule. What if she was as equally unlucky as Katherine and Anne and only gave Henry a girl? She needed to make sure that Mary and Elizabeth were out of the picture. Yes, they were declared bastards and disinherited, however, the public favoured Mary and Mary never gave in and admitted she was a bastard.... so what better way to get her to do so than to get Henry to accept her, but only on his terms by forcing her to denounce her claim to the throne? And it worked. Mary gave in, though of course she always regretted it. But for Jane, this was a dynastic victory.... she could pretend she did it out of love and sympathy, but she profited quite a bit from it as well. Now, Jane herself wasn't particularly clever, but her brother Edward certainly was. My guess is he put her up to it.
While this looked terribly cute Jane Seymour didn't really pay much attention to Elizabeth. It was Lady Bryan who had to write Cromwell for Elizabeth's needs like new clothes and such.
@Sadie Mezzo Considering Jane did serve as one Catherine Aragons lady in waiting and she supplanted Anne Bolyen. Mary did pity Elizabeth and shared her good fortune with her half sister once she was welcomed back at court. Anne of Cleves and Catherine Parr were fond of both girls.
She looks like such a sad child. Poor girl.
Jazmin Alvarez well I mean her mom kinda got killed so she had that going for her
Anne Boleyn was my favorite among Henry's wives. Sure she is ruthless and treated Catherine of Aragon badly so as to Mary 1 but the things that made me like her so much was her great love for her daughter Elizabeth. She would always be one of England's finest and greatest queen.
no.... she didnt like her very mush she cries its not a son... Anne prefered having a son
Moran Bracha I think we found out why she was so keen on that tho don’t you think 😬....
Catalina - Queen Katherine, had a great love for her daughter too.
@@moranbracha7009 Not true. Anne was initially disappointed but she quickly got over and there is evidence that she adored Elizabeth and visited her as much as she could and she spent lavishly on her.
This show doesn't do Anne justice. There's no evidence that either Anne or her family ever plotted for her to marry Henry. There's actually an account of Thomas Boleyn trying to dissuade him from marrying her. True she didn't get along with Mary, but Henry was more to blame for her and Catherine's suffering than Anne who in reality wouldn't have had much of a say in the matter. And Anne did try several times to make peace with Mary but she rebuffed them all. At the time of her death she wrote to her pleading for forgiveness. And while we don't really know what her relationship with Catherine was like the fact that she wore yellow (the traditional colour of mourning in Spain) after hearing of her death implies that she had some level of respect for her former mistress. Little known fun fact is that Anne was also heavily involved in a lot of charity work.
I just started watching this a few weeks ago and all I can say is HOW DID I EVER MISS THIS GEM.....wow wow wow... first of all, the costumes OMG and then the two lead actors OMG. How come this didn’t win anything.... and the history... now I’m going to have to dig deeper, even though I was never a fan of history, this is FASCINATING
Try Versailles....and Borgia with Mark Ryder. as Cesare....
While seeing the tudors series. I didn't understand why the very little heroic moment given to Elizabeth character. Later on when I read the history, I understood that this character deserves everything. I am from 🇮🇳.
Pretty young lady became one of the greatest people ever to walk the planet!
Not sure I'd go that far, but apparently did become a beloved Queen for 46 years.
She no saint
Princess Elizabeth was extremely intelligence just like her parents. Anne was extremely well educated and had natural intelligent for her time period. Henry VIII was intelligent and people always forget he was educated to become Archbishop of Canterbury Head of the Roman Catholic Church in England while his older brother The Prince of Wales Prince Arthur would have been King of England. Elizabeth of all Henry's children had the most rounded of royal educations learning both statecraft, decorum, household management & bookkeeping (from Ann of Cleaves), lots of languages as well as the importance of religion because her mother was so well educated. She and her brother Prince Edward shared tutors at one point. Elizabeth was Edward's 1st tutor in Latin and languages.
@Nenethegreat W If his old brother Arthur Tudor The Prince Of Wales had lived then Henry Tudor The Duke of York would have been Head of the Roman Catholic Church in England as Archbishop of Canterbury.
Elizabeth is around 3 in this scene and is able to speak French what a genius
It's so sweet Elizabeth speaking to Henry in French. I always hated Jane Seymour in the show, but she has some moments.
Thank you so much for your comment, I neither liked Jane Seymour she always played the innocent, carm queen.
I liked Jane, especially as portrayed by Annabelle Wallis. She presented a much softer portrayal than Anita Briem who started out as the character. But poor Elizabeth, she looked positively scared. I've always wondered how Mary and Elizabeth truly felt about their father after what he did to their mothers. Did they really love him in spite of his acts, or did they act like they did just to keep their heads? Of course, no one really knows.
@@rocketmom60 many people who like Jane Seymour say they don't believe Anne Boleyn to have been Guilty. Did you believe her to be?
While I thought Anne was horrible and ruthless in her treatment of Katherine of Aragon and Princess Mary, I do not think that she was guilty of the crimes that got her beheaded. She liked being Henry's queen so much that she wouldn't have done anything to jeopardize that. But as they say, if he cheats with you, he'll cheat on you. She learned the hard way that she wasn't as important to Henry as she believed.
@@rocketmom60 I think in history Anne actually wanted to Marry Henry Percy but her Father and uncle pushed her in front of the king so she could become his mistress.
I really think after that jousting accident when he was married to Anne that he was brain damaged.
Darling Jewel 100%
I've heard of that theory
It's also possible he had McLeods Syndrome because of all the inbreeding. Plus that coupled with the fact that his grandmother doted on him and never said no, he was the biggest spoiled brat in history
Nah, even before that when he tried to pole vault over a creek and landed on his head, I believe that was a traumatic brain injury that got worse over time.
DivaViews omg I have never heard this before. Cool I need to research now.
"je suis en famille" never. cause he kill his own family cause he wanted a male heir who finalle died at the ageof 15 or 16 of tuberculose
Elizabeth was a master of languages in real life. All I can say is yikes!
Fun fact: Elizabeth could speak and read in up to six different languages.
Mary and Elizabeth (and future baby brother Edward) were very close as children because Henry's presence united them but it was the throne and the crown that divided them. I believe Henry loved his children it's just that he couldn't express it well just like with Queen Victoria and her 9 children.
Ira Williams well killing their mothers did not really show his love
@@marionardailloux6553 He only killed one of their mothers and there was a lot of political bullshit behind that. Someone got into his ear.
@@ButtonsCasey So, you didn't birth me a boy and you flirt/sleep with other men (which in itself can be debated) exactly what I do with other women was political? Besides even if its true it still gave no right for the fat bastard to kill them
Elizabeth and Edward were close. When Edward became king, he did not see her as often as he would have liked. Mary was Edward's godmother, but religious differences drove a wedge between them when Edward was king.
Yes Henry loved them but not as much as he loved his son Edward.
He saw Anne Boleyn in Elizabeth,he looks so dazed
Joke’s on him. Anne gave him the best “son” he never deserved.
God is amazing and has a sense of humor. Imagine treating females like shhhhit to have a female take over your house name 😂
At least Henry showed his love for his daughter when she was little.
Even little bit of love from him is great. And Jane she loves the relationship between the two that's good actually. But alas poor Elizabeth. I know how it feels to grow up when you don't have a mother and her love and your father is a tyrant.
Actually this is quite fictional. Jane didn't care much for Elizabeth. It was Catherine Parr who was responsible for getting both Mary and Elizabeth back In the Line of Succession. She was the far more capable stepmother. Not saying Jane was bad. She was fond of Mary but ignored Elizabeth.
In reality Jane didn’t help Elizabeth that much.
Seeing how uncertain and scared the little girl was, so unsure her own father would accept her. Made me feel so sad for her. She must have felt so alone.
Elizabeth had her father’s red hair and mother’s dark eyes. Interesting that they stuck with the red hair for this series when Henry and Anne were both portrayed with black hair and blue eyes.
I wondered if Henry had lived to see Elizabeth take the throne what would he say about the queen she became?
I think it would have been the English equivalent of, "Damn, shorty out-queening me tho."
When the Anne Boleyn theme played!! Sob!
No Katherine no jane i only love my Greatest Queen Anna Boleyn😍👑
amen sister
I dislike jane but katherine was an amazing queen
@@lindensims4969 yes she was. I don't think King henry would of broke the church for a simple side chick
Alice Sunset Hane you see season 4 of the Tudors Henry still love Anne Boleyn
@@lindensims4969 ik that
Elizabeth forever will be his reminder of one of his worst crimes
This scene makes me cry every time I watch it!
Lil' Lizzie instinctively tightening her shoulders around her neck. 😅
1:25 This is the best achievement by Jane Seymore. She made a genuine family for Henry VIII.
Historically she only reconciled Henry and Mary. Jane didn't really care much for Elizabeth.
Her greatest achievement was giving Henry an heir.
That was one of the sweetest scenes in the series.
The great heir he wanted was in front of him the whole time...in the next life you could almost hear Anne having the last laugh.
My step daughter ❤️
I think Jane tried to restore a semblance of a family for Henry. Had she lived longer, she might have succeeded. Katherine Parr also worked to bring a semblance of family.
Historically Jane only tried to reconcile Henry and Mary. She didn't really care much for Elizabeth.
Jane and Catherine Of Aragon were my top two favorites of Henry's wives. With Anne Of Cleves in third place...
I like them all.
Absolutely LOVE The Tudors!!
Every time he sees her you can tell he sees Anne
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn
june silverman b ok????
Oh yes Elizabeth the first Ann Boyle's daughter was queen for 40 years 👍💞
Jonathan Rhys Meyers is so hot - too hot to play Henry VIII but I’m fine with that 😂😍!
That was the idea. Everybody remembers Henry as old and fat, but when he was young, he was handsome. Trouble was, this series kept him young and hot right up to the end. Mind you, the whole thing bore very little resemblance to historical fact.
i see and feel that he is affected whenever he sees his daughter Elizabeth. I think bc who her mother was also they how felt, everything that happened, and how it ended.
So cute little Elizabeth
This scene breaks my heart 💔
Cap pls
When this supposedly took place, Elizabeth would have been about 3 years old. She was born in Sept 1533,and this was christmastide 1536. The actress is about 8. Elizabeth was a toddler, not an accomplished speaker of several languages.
Education might have started early, especially for basic things like decorum.
Historically Elizabeth she could actually speak and read in six different languages, but you're right. Not at the tender age of 3.
He was famous for saying he was very proud of her and wished he could love her more but every time he looked at her he saw her mother which is crazy because Elizabeth looked more like him she just had her mother's eyes. I think he just felt guilty
Daddy, why did you kill mommy?
Imagine if she asked that?
I mean that would be funny to hear in this dramatic, but phenomenal program. Don't think Henry will be too proud though.
This is the Hallmark family moment that one longs for after 10years of divorces and beheadings
Elizabeth had everything Henry wanted in a boy...
I’ve been looking all over for this clip!
Elizabeth was just like her mother and treated and talked to her father as just father rather then the King he was. She was wicked intelligent just like her mother and very rarely held her tongue when talking about her beliefs and opinions. I believe that had Ann lived those two women would have been a power house in pushing the kingdom further into prosperity. He would have had his hands full with keeping them both out of trouble. However I also believe that had Ann lived Mary and Elizabeth would not have had the relationship they did before Mary became Queen. Elizabeth backed her sister whole heartedly against their brothers decision to put Jane on the throne. What I don't get is why didn't he choose Elizabeth because she was also Protestant if I remember correctly. He could have had her birth relegitamized and no longer a bastard child of the king. Either way the relationship between the sisters is, I believe, the biggest reason why Mary never would have had her executed while she was imprisoned. Regardless of Mary's deteriorating mentality she loved her little sister regardless of her birth. And that came about by them both being declared Bastards and no longer in the line of Succession.
to add these comments below about Margaret Pole : Katherine Howard is said to show her kindness by sending warm clothes to Margaret Pole in tower of London
This actually made me happy :)
Damn when Anne Boleyn gave birth to Elizabeth the 1st it was amazing!
Just to try to imagine walking down a hall full of judging people to go meet a man that has your mother beheaded...😳
He took one look at her ...realized she really IS like him (at one point he had called her illegitimate and not his) and knew immediately who she was and brought her to him. She might've been scared of him...
Poor thing she looked so scared
Jane seymour was an angel for asking Henry to restore Mary n Elizabeth in line for the throne
Jane Seymour is the underrated queen. She managed to keep her head intact, and while staying as the silent and calm wife, she also managed for crazy-all-mighty Henry to take his daughters back.
Ruankha Bilommi Catherine parr did that not Jane.
@@marcuspainter4885 Jane started the process, just as she did with Mary. In Elizabeth's case, though, Jane had to tread lightly and carefully.
I love Anne Boleyn she was innocent Henry still love her beause when he saw Elizabeth he can see Anne Boleyn in her
@@gidzmobug2323 Jane never cared about Elizabeth, she only cares for mary
I am in love with the Christmas headdresses they have, i totally have to make one !
I’ve tried to wrack my brain and figure out who Henry’s best Queen was and I can’t come to a conclusion. Henry’s queens were strong and wilful in their own way, I just wish that their lives didn’t end as they did..
Henry never loved Elizabeth....she reminds Anne to him and he grows in hate for Anne....my poor Lizzie
Nenethegreat W Later in life maybe but when she was younger, he showed little affection or attention
@Nenethegreat W kkkkkkkkk you really think that Henry loved his daughters???
Jane IS a kind woman, but I don't feel the chemistry between her and Henry like Anne & Henry does. Jane is too kind for Henry
i think with anne and henry (at least in the show) it's a lot more about passion and excitement. Once he didn't have to chase her anymore the excitement was gone, especially once she was pregnant; because she stopped putting on the mysterious, catch-me-if-you-can act. Her fieriness that used to be attractive to him became an annoyance and interference.
Henry and Jane is a lot more relaxed- like he's decided to settle down, and it helps that she has the patience to avoid his temper and avoid confrontation. Plus of course she gave him a son. It's more than likely that had she survived, he would have had a mistress on the side.
Jane wasn't as kind as she was remembered to be. Nor as stupid. The Seymours were a notorious bunch, and Jane was no exception. She was alot like her predecessor, Anne Boleyn herself, but she hid her true feelings and nature far away.
@@kiera6326 ohh I see, so who's idea to make her look kind in the shows?
@@Zaramakeupartist+ No one's, really. It's just how she was remembered. Jane had a part to play, and she played it well. She was kind *to* people, but she wasn't a necessarily *kind* person. She wasn't evil either, mind. More used by her family more than anything, but she didn't really care about who got hurt when they were in her way.
He wanted a more compliant wife after Anne. Because Jane's life was so short we would never know what she was really like. She may be kind and meek but she did come from a very ambitious family. Who knows? Maybe an older Jane Seymour may have been a tough and influential woman had she lived.
Look at how scared Elizabeth is, my god
He should have said: the future queen of England.
Like he'd ever say that
I personally thought this was a sweet moment, the reality that he cast aside his daughters but on this Christmas special he was happy to have both his daughters there
God blessed this dude with beautiful, intelligent daughters. He should be proud but nah. He's wack -_-
What is the Christmas carol at the beginning of the clip? Does anyone have a link?
Everyone saying the hate Mary gets is unfair but if she killed that many people in a couple years imagine if she reigned as long as Elizabeth l
1:02 translation: 'Why did you murder my Mummy?'
All of these actresses are beautiful .
I like to think that Jane did this nice thing for Elizabeth since much of her focus was on Mary
mad that henry dosnt have red hair🙄