The driver in that video is Markku Alen. Multiple victories in rally world championship races. Very cool guy and still do some historic races and beats the young boiiis.
Just a half a million euro's. Btw that driver is one of the world rally champions from B group era. Teknavi is kinda topgear, focusing on fairly short episodes from different cars etc
@@kami67 Ari vatanen, Juha kankkunen. seen them both here in my area, juha kankkunen lives 10km from my home and my father has built most of his house :)
iSe oli lava sikaa, mitä tietääkseni enää tehdä. Joo oli 98/99 ja yks kuski meinas saada pataansa kun teki tuota, mut ymmärsi kyllä että et noin ei tehdä.
@@Joonatan75 jep. Nykyään lavalle asennetaan moduuli jossa on istuimet, 4-piste turvavyöt, telineet aseille ja ehdoton kielto että ei saa olla muuta kuin taistelijan henk koht materiaali samassa tilassa. Niissä pystyy nukkumaan aika hurjassakin kyydissä.
I rode in the back of a Pasi when I was visiting Finnish KFOR troops i Kosovo back in 2000. Officially, the war was over, but there were still mines, snipers, etc., so we had to be careful. Everything went well, though, and the ride was quite comfortable as I recall it. At the time, the KFOR troops were commanded by a US Cavalry Major General. He had a lot of good things to say about his Finnish and other Nordic units, and I don't think it was mere politeness.
I was PASI driver/commander at the army. I remember when we had the "family day" there and we were having tours for them to have PASI experience. Our captain said to us: "Listen, my sons are on the next tour with me, so I would appreciate if you guys would take more rough terrain". After the tour our captain came out pale AF with 2 young boys excited screaming "daddy that was fun, can we have another round, can we daddy please". So yes, PASI does have quite good off-road capabilities.
@@CombatArmsChannel Patria is a 50,1% Finnish owned company providing military support services and technology solutions. Pasi is a product of Patria as well and the name Pasi comes from Panssari-Sisu (armored Sisu). Sisu is a Finnish truck manufacturing company who won the tender to manufacture the Pasi. Just to get you more confused.
The thing that gets me the most is this armored vehicle (PASI) is totally well if not seaworthy then at least suitable to drive in lakes and such. During my service I was driving these and driving this thing to lake was the most exciting thing, I mean there we were in lake with depth of 50+ meters and just swimming to an island to turn this thing around and come back to shore.
It's armour protection is STANAG Level 4: size is 14.5х114АР/B32 at 200 meters with 911 m/s. Artillery of this level is considered to be 155 mm of High Explosive in the distance of 30 m. Concerning the Grenade and Mine Blast Threat, this level requires 10 kg of explosive mass and also is divided into two sublevels: 4а- pressure of mine explosion activated under any wheel or track location 4b - explosion of mine under center.
The older Pasis are quite comfortable to ride in the back. Of course the ones without seatbelts are a bit hairy if there are sharp bumps or the driver slams the breaks. Not a problem if you have a goid grip from the bars or the hand loops. I have been airborne a couple of times inside one when I did not manage to grap a hold 😅 The modernized Pasis with individual seats and belts are just comfy, you usually fall asleep, even off-terrain. I have seen guys sleep, then ewaing up in a bump and falling back asleep even before the Pasi settles back down 😅 If you can stand in a hatch and see where you are going it is just fun, I can imagine it is just like surfing 😀
@@arandomdude9588 Ajajana aikoinaan pystyi kummasti vaikuttamaan siihen miehistön mukavuuteen. Edelleen on huono omatunto siitä kun latasin täyttä vauhtia vastapomppuun. Ja siitä on 20v. Muuten oli virheetöntä suorittamista. Onneksi kaikki oli kunnossa, eikä edes hampaita lähtenyt, kun päät kolisivat ruumisarkussa.
They also came up with the Patria AMV 8x8 recently. That model is more suited for frontline operations. It's also very modular and can be fitted with all kinds of stuff from autocannons to the NEMO mortar system. A lot more high-tech vehicle than the 6x6. You should give that a look maybe? I saw the 6x6 and the 8x8 plenty of times back in Parola Armoured Brigade when I was doing my mandatory service. I think they were still under test trials back then.
@Jason I was about to answer the same we had those in use back in 2012. But I think @Etronax meant to say AMV XP, that is the modern version of the amw what we had.
As far as I know the new 6x6 is in production but hasn't been put into service yet since we have tons of pasis still in great condition. I'm pretty sure Latvia already has the new models in use. The FDF might also be waiting for the protolab pmpv and sisu gtp development and trials before making an official order for all of them, since their capabilities could lead to a more diverse armor pool in wider use. I'm pretty sure all 3 have already been adopted at least to some degree but the orders and user garrisons are not public information yet.
Teknavi is kinda tv show like top gear except not that much "before wrote" scenes or trips. its more about testing different cars only but with world rally champion and legend Markku Alên. also PaSi and Patria is sold all around the world for military use, like US forces and others in places like iraq or so.. there is documentary about it which you should check out too! if i only remember which channel it was on..
Teknavi is mainly a car and digital program, where the two have their own part, where they experiment with different cars and other devices. The younger is journalist Marko Terva-aho and the tester is Markku Alén (70 years old, always under the motto Maximum Attact) is a very successful Finnish ex-rally driver. Fan fact Marku’s son Andrei Alén starred in The Unknown Soldier in the role of Rahikainen (a cunning and deceitful soldier). Markku has tested another Finnish lighter vehicle Protolab's PMPV 6x6 th-cam.com/video/g-yRoL8dtbo/w-d-xo.html (the last section of the 3-part PMPV series) and the floating (modified) Patria AMV th-cam.com/video/2d-GN20EaAQ/w-d-xo.html, with a swimming distance of 100 km (60 miles) also truck SISU E13TB 8x8 th-cam.com/video/I6VNNUy7FpQ/w-d-xo.html. Markku in a more familiar driving environment after a few minutes of device guidance th-cam.com/video/qipjAjhVMs8/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/IZtsMEpKU6o/w-d-xo.html
Sorry, I hate doing things like this but 100km is 62miles. Tiny difference I know, but rather have people who don't know the difference between the two get the correct details.
The Patria 6x6 has been chosen as the base vehicle for the new APC program between Finland and Latvia, so we will see it in action in few years in Latvia and even in Finland most likely
I drove a xa-180 pasi and as much as i liked it it had many shortcomings, most of them have been corrected on the later models, but the original pasi still does all most the same as the new patria 6x6 its just more uncomfortable. In the original one you dont really even get a backrest on the seats, not to mention the lack of shock absorption. The absolutely worst one was the lack of thermal insulation and total absence of a auxiliary heater, two things you really dont want to be without in a steelbox in the middle of the finnish winter.
I slept many nights in PaSi during winter time. I know we were not allowed, because there was halon fire extinguishers. And in case of fire we would have suffocated. But I disconnected those halon extinguisher fuses for over night. I think it was much better to sleep than "Guerrilla tent", flat floor, rubber insulation on the floor, "retki patja" for extra insulation. and sleeping in military grade sleeping bag.
Oh yeah I remember being cold in the driver's seat all winter. Luckily they placed the power steering pump on the floor in front of the driver seat. I often drove it without shoes so I could use the hand throttle a lot and keep my feet warm on the pump because the pump was always hot. Hated being in the commander's seat, no pump and you had to stick your head out in the freezing wind.
Awesome piece of kit. We use the PASI 185 and the 188 a lot and I personally lived with this machine for a couple of years including deployment. This thing is a beast, we would break through compound walls if we didn't feel like driving around. PASI as far as I know actually stands for Patria and Sisu. Sisu is the truck manufacturer in Finland. But again nice overview, cool show.
I drove PASI in my military year. It`s hard to see out of, especially when the "flaps" are put down on the wind screen. But it surprisingly similar to drive than a normal truck. Driving it on a lake was the best part, because it feels weird to float around on a vehicle that is meant for land. My best army memories were when we get to drive PASI`s full speed in the woods. (I actually got yelled at by my liutenant: "If you would drive like that with people onboard, there would be no one able to fight after the ride!!!") You can just keep your foot down and it goes everywhere. Great machine. I drove those back in 2005, so i have no experience on the new model.
I drove PaSi/XA-180 as well. I think it is better to drive than normal truck. Because it has lower center of gravity, and 4 out of 6 wheels turn. so it is more balanced and can turn in more narrow places than normal truck. Ofc vision is more restricted than in normal truck. but there is leader to spot tight places. However, I wouldn't want have my head outside in real situation. But then we would not be too concern about hitting trees ;)
I was vehicle commander on the old Pasi (XA 180), it was pretty bare bones experience. I did a bit of driving in training too. The seats up front were uncomfortable, the seats in the back even worse, suspension pretty bad and so on. It was a lot of fun though, specially as a commander as standing up from the hatch you could use your own legs as springs, but on a bumpy forest road the back was pretty uncomfortable.
i was a truck driver in the finnish defence forces. mostly drove off-road trucks like Sisu SA-240, Sisu SA-150 and Sisu E11t 6x6. you should react to them as well. sisu E11t was my favorite.
Being in the back of the PASI was actually nice. We didn't do too much offroading, but the times we did, it wasn't so bad. I always felt like Pasi was my home base, since it was warm and dry and had lights inside. 😁
Armour sloping is done to increase the thickness against projectiles from a straight angle. It's like you have to walk further to cross a road if you walk at a 45° angle than if you walk at a right angle to the curb. "Redirecting" doesn't really work against modern armour piercing projectiles. Side armour is usually so thin that sloping doesn't do much, which is why almost all battle tanks have straight sides. However, every bit of reduced volume means that you need less armour and therefore save weight, so sloping the sides makes sense if you don't need the space.
While sloped armor does not work against modern AP shells, it does not matter in light vehicles. All APFSDS type ammunations will penetrate this kind of armor anyway. Sloping and making ammunation to richochet is still valid way to defeat ammunation of large caliber machineguns which still use old style of AP ammunation as it is almost impossible to make valid APFSDS to calibers under 20-25mm.
The Patria XA-188 GVV , was special order for the dutch military used with the dutch marines , army and as ambulance. they where an early 200 variant. .
Make sure you dont eat anything before you go offloading in the back of that thing. 300KW = 402 Hp. 1870NM = 1380 FtLbs. Great vehicle for delivering Pizza.
Mate keep up the good work with these for videos. I don’t personally have ties to the military but I’m fascinated by it and your videos are give such a good insight. Cheers mate, all best 👍🏻🇺🇸🇬🇧
That's what I love about driving trucks. Buses are the same (although I've never driven one) feels weird at first when you think you are about to hit a wall but just miss it eh?
Finland is in the process of buying about 60 fighter aircrafts. We choose between 5 candidates. Next friday there will be an Air Show in Kaivopuisto, a beautiful park in Helsinki, free of charge. They expect 150 000 people to show up. In 2017 there were 130 000 people. There are videos from the event on YT.
Patria's mortar systems might be their best products. Patria Nemo is a turreted, light weight and remote-controlled 120 mm mortar system with a high level of mobility, protection and accuracy. th-cam.com/video/bfF52zBzr6k/w-d-xo.html
That guy is retire world class off-road rally driver who while serving in military back in the day also drove Pasi. Checkout Patris NEMO, it's 120 mm mortar vehicle on that platform.
Ok so PaSi is short for PanssariSisu = Armor Sisu (Sisu was the defence contractor). The name became famous for their armored personnel carriers and other vehicles, now replaced by similar, more modern vehicles manufactured by Patria.
We have Pasi's yes, but mostly we are still transported with trucks like you said that you mostly use! Great content, i like to see professional soldier comments about our military stuff. It gives lots of perspective.
The Pasi is for me the best vehicle in the finnish military once you learn how to drive it, of course since it is from the 80's and 90's it feels quite old sometimes but it always works in any terrain. Only thing that I would change about it is the automatic gearbox, and get a 6-speed manual instead.
We had the amv-360 but had little time with the 180, one thing for sure is if there is any problems with the 360 you cant do enything yourself. But the old 180/185 are so basic so easy to repair.
I have experience with old school XA-180. We had over heating problems in Africa. Even after we did modifications to cooling system. Only way was to keep high revs on the paths. Really good vehicle to run and live in bushes.
I had experience with XA-203 model that came with a turret that you controlled with a joystic. I had the chance to try it in one of the coastal training and the target was a radio controlled man sized plane. It was flown at 400 meters away from us so we had to take quite a bit of lead to hit it. I was the last one and we ran out of normal bullets so I got 200 tracers to fire in full auto, it was a lot of fun. The turret was usually mounted with either 12.7mm machine gun or a grenade launcher.
Teknavi is a TV show that has similar short reviews of cars, boats, bikes and practically everything with an engine. The driver there, Markku Alén, is actually a former Finnish WRC driver with a 2nd in world list of WRC stage victories. And no, the 6x6 Patria is not in active service. It's something the Patria as a company is developing and selling co-op with Finnish and Latvian defence forces. Think the newest APC in full service in Finland is the Patria AMV 8x8.
1:26 Parolannummi is the place where most of the tank crews and the tank brigade is being trained at. It has a lot of good and demanding terrain for tank and vehicle exercises
7.1L engine! Is that not akin to most American cars? Lol American cars always astound me with how big their engines are. This thing also goes nearly 60mph, that bloody impressive for a 19ton vehicle. Not far off the speed limit on our UK motorways lol. Faster than an HGV (Or LGV if you are one of the younger guys. God only knows why they changed it). Whoops, that was the old one. 9.3L engine, top speed of even closer to 60mph and weighs 24ton!! That is bloody fast as hell for its weight. Hope it has good breaks lol Edit: Yeah, HGV's have a special break called the 'retarder' (at least that's what it's called in the uk) use it for going down hills when you have a full load just so the thing doesn't run away from you. Lastly, just from watching this and it being from Finland I can almost certainly say these dudes are famous ex-rally drivers. Just a shame we never got to see them do the famous Scandinavian flick!! Guess that would be next to impossible in a 6x6 that I doubt you can turn the traction control off from lol
Original design made by sisu, used all over the world on un operations, primarily in Lebanon with UNIFIL, Finns and Irish and most of the force used them. Irish replaced them with 8x8 mowag piranha 3s
*PAROLANUMMI!?* Panssariprikaati represent. =D That is Parolan Leijona. (Parola Lion) Statue. Raised in memory of Tzar Alexander II visit of 1863. Dressed in Uniform of the Finnish Guard, he inspected Finnish Army. Senator J.V. Snellman also got him sign the declaration about status of Finnish language.
Patria and Lockheed Martin agreed to cooperate in the competition for the US Marines MPC (Marine Personnel Carrier) program that was set to replace the LAV-25. The USMC planned to obtain 600 MPC vehicles. Patria was to deliver the AMV 8×8 vehicle. Lockheed Martin Systems Integration was responsible for the MPC offer, as well as system integration, survivability systems, the US production line, and networking and logistics. In August 2012, the Marines gave Lockheed a developmental contract for their vehicle, called the Havoc. For protection against mine attacks, the Havoc would have used a 'subframe' rather than a V-hull. On 3 April 2013, the Havoc successfully completed amphibious testing as part of its evaluation for the MPC program. The Marine Personnel Carrier was put on hold in June 2013, restarted in February 2014, and then restructured as Phase 1 of the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) program, which included the previous MPC competitor entries. During the summer of 2013, the Havoc successfully completed protection systems testing during a series of blast tests. The vehicle completed all threshold and objective protection system testing, with instrumentation indicating that no disabling injuries would have resulted to any of the three crew members and nine dismounted Marines. Lockheed also delivered a report demonstrating the high degree of commonality between the Havoc and other Marine Corps vehicles, aimed at reducing cost, training requirements, and logistics needs. The Lockheed Havoc AMV completed the Nevada Automotive Test Center's Butte Mountain Trail course in September 2014. Lockheed planned to offer the Havoc in the Marine Corps' ACV Phase 1 program, and give them 16 vehicles to test once a Request for Proposals (RFP) was released in early 2015. However, in July 2015 partnership between Patria and Lockheed Martin came to an end, and Havoc was not offered to the Amphibious Combat Vehicle program. In June 2018, the BAE design was selected, with an initial order of 30 ACVs. In June 2019, BAE Systems and Iveco were awarded a contract to develop Command and 30mm gun armed variants. On 15 October 2020, Iveco announced that the first fleet of 18 ACVs had been delivered to a platoon of Marines after five years of testing development. On 10 December 2020, the Marine Corps and BAE Systems announced the commencement of full-rate production, with an initial batch of 36, expected to grow to 72 in early 2021 with an option for 80 vehicles per year thereafter. The subcontract for the ACV's remote turret went to Kongsberg Defense Systems with the Protector RT20. A January 2021 report from the Department of Defense's Director of Operational Test & Evaluation (DOT&E) pointed to several problems with the ACV, including cramped quarters, difficult egress and frequent breakdown
You wondered that incline, the most scariest thing I did in army was over 45 degree decline with Sisu SA-240 RaSi. It had semiautomatic transmission with turbine so there was almost zero engine brake. My instructor just kept saying "don't touch brakes, don't touch brakes!" :D
My favourite PASI is the one that picked me up from my position at the extreme test... Had been like 5 days in the forest and slept around 16 hours during that time, then it went wild and I was kept awake for almost 72 hours. We got position with my partner to secure and he had the radio. We were supposed to be picked up 2 hours from deployment, but ended up being there more that 12 hours, with full gear (35kg+rifle) and even getting to position took like 2 hours walking (with gear). When I finally got to the PASI, I threw my backpack into the middle, took my helmet as pillow and just slept. It's maybe the best feeling of my life to wake up for few seconds when others of my group came aboard. I mumbled something, don't know to this date what, but they told me I was mumbling the pickup positions of other groups.
I was a PASI driver in Finnish military... 9 months training... Pasi is easy to drive, driver/leader/crew comfort. Cold in winter. Was fun shooting AA gun mounted at top.
The place they went to is the Armored Brigade in Parola. The statue was the Parolan leijona or "The Lion of Parola" it was made in 1868 to honor the visit of Alexander II of Russia. Anyway I served there in the Armoured AA battery. And i've driven up and down the same hills they drove here. And seeing it first hand i can say it is pretty fucking insane to see a PASI go up and down those hills like nothing even in deep snow during winter.
The Patria AMW XA-300 6x6 replaces the Pasi XA series in the product catalog and uses some automotive components from the Patria AMV used by Finland and Poland for fleet commonality. It is less capable in some areas than AMV but but costs about half as much in baseline configuration They are meant to compliment each other. Germany, Sweden, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are part of a joint program on this vehicle called CAVS and several orders have already been placed. Latvia has orders placed for 200 so far with deliveries from last fall, Finland has a letter of intent on 160 and Sweden I believe has firm orders for about 20 IIRC. Main target market beyond the partner countries is probably M113 users looking to replace their fleets and obviously as a replacement for extant XA series vehicles, some of which are now 3 decades old. And obviously, AMV users.
The more usual transport vehicles used in low threat situations that don't require an armored vehicle are the Sisu SA-240 "Rasi" and Sisu E11T "Eemeli". Both have the ability to carry removable elements with seats facing outwards to the sides, that can either fill up the whole back or just a part of it (which makes it possible to carry soldiers and equipment at the same time)
Never got to drive the Pasi's but I was lucky enough to drive pretty much every non-armoured truck during my military service. Maybe the most memorable was an armoured truck called the Sisu E13TP 8x8 a.k.a the Ant. Worth checking out as well :) Also saw the Pasi's once in action training their "swimming" capabilities on a lake which was pretty cool to see!
I was leader and sometimes a driver in all of the pasi models except one while i was in conscription. I drove/lead xa-180 xa-202 and xa-203. From these one i preferres the older model xa-180 because of the torque and speed. It was alot lighter than the newer models so it was more agile in finnish forest areas. Mainly my vehicle was xa-202 because it had built in communications systems and i was a back up leader for communications team.
You should check Patria AMV too. It's the more armored version with different arming options like 120mm cannon and Amos mortar. Pasi can be equipped with 120mm Nemo mortar system too.
Pasi means PAnssari SIsu (Armoured Sisu), while the official name is XA-180/185/188/203. Pasi was developed by a Finnish truck manufacturer Sisu in 80's. 1997 Sisu company was split and military vehicle manufacturing became part of newly formed Finnish military industry company Patria. Patria continued manufacturing Pasis until 2004. Same year begun the deliveries of Patria AMV 8x8 infantry fighting vehicle, which since then has been sold to Poland, Finland, Slovenia, Croatia, South-Africa, Sweden and UAE. New Patria 6x6 is an APC intended to same role as the old Pasi, but with latest technology and performance. Patria 6x6 has been tested by various countires in Nordic and Baltic region and it is the selected platform fo Finnish-Latvian joint development program for a Common Armoured Vehicle System. Serial contract is awaited within this year.
Our armed forces had Pasi's, which they used in Afghanistan. A couple of incidents involving roadside IED's made clear that they could not take such a blast. We replaced them with the Bushmaster, which is a far more suitable vehicle for that type of environment. Our remaining Pasi's have been sold to Estonia.
Parolannummi is the home of our glorious armoured brigade and the trails they're driving are where new tank crews train to drive tanks. Patria vehicles are in service in Finland and in few other countries too like in Poland, Slovenia, Sweden etc. That's also already a old model the newer ones are better armoured and more modular and are mostly 8x8 and the new models are silent as the night. One drove up to me and my squad and we only heard the gravel move under it's tires and when we turned around, there it was staring right at us maybe 50m away. And driving them? Just like driving a big van or a smaller truck.
Look up MASI (maasto sisu) that's what we drove around in with light artillery. More like what you mentioned as a general use off road truck. I ou got to drive in the back of PASI once or twice and it just felt wild how fast the guys were driving on roads like that
Yea, I went though older Pasi course during change of century. Lot of people would have paid top money to do that, it was awesome to drive back then. New one is probably way better.
I noticed that angling in inside armor is about the same as old PaSi (Panssari Sisu) So that lets me to believe that new 6by6 has either active armor or at least some spaced armor or sides are a modular design so it can either be used for extra armor or equipment.
So When I was serving my ”time” in the military as a conscript I was in the Naval infantry, so we had no Pasi, but I got to ride one in Lukio wich is kinda like highschool but still isn’t.( I was 18 at the time). And there was this course we could take to like spend one weekend in military, learning basic stuff like living there and we got to ride Pasi and I just remember it driving up some huge ass rocks with no problems and my waist getting totaled beacause I was standig in the roof hatch and getting thrown to all possible directions 😂
the main combat apc is the patia AMW. then there is the CV9030 which is more like a infantry fighting vehicle or armoured infantry assault vehicle / assault tank then for stuff like artillery and logistics there is a different troop transportation most likely Sisu E-11 which can climb a fucking tree
The brake assist is a common braking solution for heavy vehicles that conserves brake plates. I think it restricts exhaust gas flow so that the cylinders brake by compressing gas.
Those pasi’s can also be equipped with fire extinguishing stuff that we had on a navy (in Finland ofc) as so I hope that the new revision of 6x6 will also have this same opportunity, as it can be a huge advantage to stop forest fires as we did have one here not too long ago 😶 But for the Pasi, it is brute - does handle as it should and in the back it was always fun to travel 😅
I was a platoon leader during my conscription, and PASI was our main vehicle. I didn't drive it, but I spent a lot of hours in the back of it, either sitting down or standing up from the hatch. I have to say from a passenger's perspective, that it's actually quite comfortable even in rough terrain. The suspension is incredible, it's like sitting on a trampoline or something when it goes up and down the hills. People can actually sleep in the back during longer transits even if the terrain looks like that in the video. But if you drive it too fast down a pit it'll bump you quite hard, so it's up to the driver as well how it feels. Sitting down that isn't an issue, but standing up (upper torso out of the hatch) can be pretty tough, but your legs can still withstand basically any kind of terrain.
Pity they never showed the hatch. Thanks would never have known about that if you never said. The upgrade have the same? I imagine it will as I doubt that they would only have a single exit from an rpg target
I believe the 6x6 is Patria's budget friendly brother for the AMV. Even though every user seems to be happy with Patria's vehicles Patria has not had the best of luck with big contracts lately. Back in 2015 Locheed Martin/Patria Havoc was pulled from the USMC's ACV program and Patria didn't do any better in Australia's Land 400 program with their AMV35. At least there is still a chance for Patria to be awarded with a contract to modernize the Stryker Brigades mortar systems with Nemo. That would be cool.
Funny memories. I was in The army -87 in Dragsvik and was often in the first Pasi. I forgat my helmet two times in the back of vehacle and banged my head in bad terrain. After that i took my helmet on in the future. :)
Got a good video to watch: it’s on a Netflix documentary called ‘medal of honour’ season 1, episode 1. It’s an amazing story about ‘Sylvester Antolak’ honestly blew my mind, amazing guy, amazing history and just an all round bad ass! As someone from the UK, I hadn’t heard of him until just now, but wow!
i have not driven pasi, but i have been passanger in the back in few military trainings. It can destroy your butt XD. Biggest thing is, if you have weak stomach, do not eat anything b4 entering the back, cuz when we used pasi, it was always in deep forest roads and such, so in no way form "smooth" ride.
PASI was great, and you can mount even anti-tank missile system on it. Finland has a rock base, so we have kilometres of tunnels - warehouses caved into the rock, many surprises which they don’t show publicly but would be used if there would be an aggression towards Finland.
TekNavi is like the Finnish TopGear but with minimal humor. They mainly just test/review new cars etc. The older guy, Markku Alen, is a Finnish rally legend.
The driver in that video is Markku Alen. Multiple victories in rally world championship races. Very cool guy and still do some historic races and beats the young boiiis.
He seam like a cool guy :D
Saw him a couple of years ago in the Ärrä on Isokaari in Lauttasaari, haha!
Not only did he say "maximum attack" - he is a rallying legend.
@@kristofferhellstrom hmm, after he retired from rallying, he bought a wineyard from france....
@@DerMacko Good for him :) Sounds like a good retirement
Just a half a million euro's. Btw that driver is one of the world rally champions from B group era. Teknavi is kinda topgear, focusing on fairly short episodes from different cars etc
Markku Alên :) one of the best rally drivers in the world.
Mr Maximum Attack
@@MrBanaanipommi Tommi Mäkinen, Henri Toivonen
@@kami67 Ari vatanen, Juha kankkunen. seen them both here in my area, juha kankkunen lives 10km from my home and my father has built most of his house :)
@@MrBanaanipommi Nicee!!
I'm currently serving in Finnish military so I can tell you, when there are infantry in the back, the drivers usually aim for the potholes.
When i served in estonia it was the same haha all drivers did it
iSe oli lava sikaa, mitä tietääkseni enää tehdä. Joo oli 98/99 ja yks kuski meinas saada pataansa kun teki tuota, mut ymmärsi kyllä että et noin ei tehdä.
@@Joonatan75 Oliko silloin mihistönkuljetusmoduulit käytössä kuorma-autoissa vai kulkiko porukka lavalla?
@@TealJosh Lavalla.
@@Joonatan75 jep. Nykyään lavalle asennetaan moduuli jossa on istuimet, 4-piste turvavyöt, telineet aseille ja ehdoton kielto että ei saa olla muuta kuin taistelijan henk koht materiaali samassa tilassa. Niissä pystyy nukkumaan aika hurjassakin kyydissä.
I rode in the back of a Pasi when I was visiting Finnish KFOR troops i Kosovo back in 2000. Officially, the war was over, but there were still mines, snipers, etc., so we had to be careful. Everything went well, though, and the ride was quite comfortable as I recall it. At the time, the KFOR troops were commanded by a US Cavalry Major General. He had a lot of good things to say about his Finnish and other Nordic units, and I don't think it was mere politeness.
I was PASI driver/commander at the army. I remember when we had the "family day" there and we were having tours for them to have PASI experience. Our captain said to us: "Listen, my sons are on the next tour with me, so I would appreciate if you guys would take more rough terrain". After the tour our captain came out pale AF with 2 young boys excited screaming "daddy that was fun, can we have another round, can we daddy please". So yes, PASI does have quite good off-road capabilities.
Patria is the manufacturer, the new vehicle is so far only called the 6x6
haha ok that's confusing, but thanks!
@@CombatArmsChannel Patria is a 50,1% Finnish owned company providing military support services and technology solutions.
Pasi is a product of Patria as well and the name Pasi comes from Panssari-Sisu (armored Sisu). Sisu is a Finnish truck manufacturing company who won the tender to manufacture the Pasi. Just to get you more confused.
That driver was Markku Alen. Famous rally driver. I've been passanger that old Pasi and it was scary ride
@@Kosmologiikka 50.1% owned by the state.
@@Nasse83 Well it kind of has to be the state without NATO.
Markku Álen is a former rally driver
Patrias already in service in Latvian military since 2022
That is Lion statue of Parolannummi that was revealed to commorate emperor Alexander II of Russia visit in 1868 .
The thing that gets me the most is this armored vehicle (PASI) is totally well if not seaworthy then at least suitable to drive in lakes and such. During my service I was driving these and driving this thing to lake was the most exciting thing, I mean there we were in lake with depth of 50+ meters and just swimming to an island to turn this thing around and come back to shore.
It's armour protection is STANAG Level 4: size is 14.5х114АР/B32 at 200 meters with 911 m/s. Artillery of this level is considered to be 155 mm of High Explosive in the distance of 30 m. Concerning the Grenade and Mine Blast Threat, this level requires 10 kg of explosive mass and also is divided into two sublevels:
4а- pressure of mine explosion activated under any wheel or track location
4b - explosion of mine under center.
Well, still a prototype.
@@efz629 First ones are now delivered to Latvian army and production is scehule. FDF has ordered 200 also
@@attesih Words "delivered" and "ordered" are not same with word "ready".
@@efz629 first 4 vehicles received and ready in Latvia
@@Ri-bg9di Just wait and see.
The older Pasis are quite comfortable to ride in the back. Of course the ones without seatbelts are a bit hairy if there are sharp bumps or the driver slams the breaks. Not a problem if you have a goid grip from the bars or the hand loops. I have been airborne a couple of times inside one when I did not manage to grap a hold 😅 The modernized Pasis with individual seats and belts are just comfy, you usually fall asleep, even off-terrain. I have seen guys sleep, then ewaing up in a bump and falling back asleep even before the Pasi settles back down 😅
If you can stand in a hatch and see where you are going it is just fun, I can imagine it is just like surfing 😀
Ajajana panssariuraa pitkin talla pohjassa niin että pasi lähtee lentoo ja monnit rääkymäs on kyllä parasta herkkua mitä jää ikävä intistä :DD
"Somebody wake up Hicks!"
@@arandomdude9588 Ajajana aikoinaan pystyi kummasti vaikuttamaan siihen miehistön mukavuuteen. Edelleen on huono omatunto siitä kun latasin täyttä vauhtia vastapomppuun. Ja siitä on 20v. Muuten oli virheetöntä suorittamista. Onneksi kaikki oli kunnossa, eikä edes hampaita lähtenyt, kun päät kolisivat ruumisarkussa.
You mean sisu
@@Truthbomb918 Yes. Pasi (a common finnish mans name) is short for "Panssari-Sisu", which translates to "Armored-Sisu".
They also came up with the Patria AMV 8x8 recently. That model is more suited for frontline operations. It's also very modular and can be fitted with all kinds of stuff from autocannons to the NEMO mortar system.
A lot more high-tech vehicle than the 6x6. You should give that a look maybe?
I saw the 6x6 and the 8x8 plenty of times back in Parola Armoured Brigade when I was doing my mandatory service. I think they were still under test trials back then.
@Jason I was about to answer the same we had those in use back in 2012. But I think @Etronax meant to say AMV XP, that is the modern version of the amw what we had.
@@iilimato18 I was in the batch of first conscripts to use the original AMV (XA-360) in 2008. It still had some serious teething problems back then.
This was originally made by sisu, Patria bought them in 1997 I think
There's a wonderful old video on the Pasi and a couple of other Sisu vehicles called "80's Sisu Defence Commercial".
th-cam.com/video/gsSXbGWr7LQ/w-d-xo.html there is the link to the old commercial
th-cam.com/video/q8xFmSuoE7g/w-d-xo.html I meant this one, but the one you linked is also included there.
Patria is manufacturer of PASI. It’s state owned company producing military vehicles.
As far as I know the new 6x6 is in production but hasn't been put into service yet since we have tons of pasis still in great condition. I'm pretty sure Latvia already has the new models in use. The FDF might also be waiting for the protolab pmpv and sisu gtp development and trials before making an official order for all of them, since their capabilities could lead to a more diverse armor pool in wider use. I'm pretty sure all 3 have already been adopted at least to some degree but the orders and user garrisons are not public information yet.
They are being tested now.
Nope Latvia is still in testing phase, if all goes will contract will be signed in end of the year.
First few was already shipped to Latvia for use in army.
The ending in the video was definitely very Finnish! Here we roast sausages on the fire, not marshmallows like in the US.
@@OlariMC No.
I once tried to roast them, but they just melted off from the stick...
And seriously, wtf is the point in eating roasted sugar?
@@OlariMC Yes it tastes better. Try it.
@@HenriT Try again. :)
@@jarkko4732 nope. Sugar doesnt go along keto.
Perkele mitään lastenkarkkeja täällä syödä ku makkaraa ja kossua 🤘
Teknavi is kinda tv show like top gear except not that much "before wrote" scenes or trips. its more about testing different cars only but with world rally champion and legend Markku Alên.
also PaSi and Patria is sold all around the world for military use, like US forces and others in places like iraq or so.. there is documentary about it which you should check out too! if i only remember which channel it was on..
Scripted taitaa olla sana joka oli hakusessa tuohon "Before wrote" kohalle
@@raestlin86 joo ei aina tuu mieleen oikeet sanat :D
Teknavi is mainly a car and digital program, where the two have their own part, where they experiment with different cars and other devices. The younger is journalist Marko Terva-aho and the tester is Markku Alén (70 years old, always under the motto Maximum Attact) is a very successful Finnish ex-rally driver. Fan fact Marku’s son Andrei Alén starred in The Unknown Soldier in the role of Rahikainen (a cunning and deceitful soldier).
Markku has tested another Finnish lighter vehicle Protolab's PMPV 6x6 th-cam.com/video/g-yRoL8dtbo/w-d-xo.html (the last section of the 3-part PMPV series) and the floating (modified) Patria AMV th-cam.com/video/2d-GN20EaAQ/w-d-xo.html, with a swimming distance of 100 km (60 miles) also truck SISU E13TB 8x8 th-cam.com/video/I6VNNUy7FpQ/w-d-xo.html.
Markku in a more familiar driving environment after a few minutes of device guidance th-cam.com/video/qipjAjhVMs8/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/IZtsMEpKU6o/w-d-xo.html
Sorry, I hate doing things like this but 100km is 62miles.
Tiny difference I know, but rather have people who don't know the difference between the two get the correct details.
@@randommadness1021 You must be fun at parties.
The Patria 6x6 has been chosen as the base vehicle for the new APC program between Finland and Latvia, so we will see it in action in few years in Latvia and even in Finland most likely
Latvian army has signed a deal on buying Patria 6x6 and even cooperating on producing some parts for it here.
Holy shit that looks like a lot of fun. Been in the older Pasi. Slept like a baby on the floor, even that model has good suspension.
It's got a Scania engine yeah take my money all of it. I drive a Scania V8 640 at work absolute beast this thing must fly.
Ei Samperi
I drove a xa-180 pasi and as much as i liked it it had many shortcomings, most of them have been corrected on the later models, but the original pasi still does all most the same as the new patria 6x6 its just more uncomfortable. In the original one you dont really even get a backrest on the seats, not to mention the lack of shock absorption. The absolutely worst one was the lack of thermal insulation and total absence of a auxiliary heater, two things you really dont want to be without in a steelbox in the middle of the finnish winter.
I slept many nights in PaSi during winter time. I know we were not allowed, because there was halon fire extinguishers. And in case of fire we would have suffocated. But I disconnected those halon extinguisher fuses for over night. I think it was much better to sleep than "Guerrilla tent", flat floor, rubber insulation on the floor, "retki patja" for extra insulation. and sleeping in military grade sleeping bag.
Oh yeah I remember being cold in the driver's seat all winter. Luckily they placed the power steering pump on the floor in front of the driver seat. I often drove it without shoes so I could use the hand throttle a lot and keep my feet warm on the pump because the pump was always hot. Hated being in the commander's seat, no pump and you had to stick your head out in the freezing wind.
The roar of that engine 😍
Awesome piece of kit. We use the PASI 185 and the 188 a lot and I personally lived with this machine for a couple of years including deployment. This thing is a beast, we would break through compound walls if we didn't feel like driving around. PASI as far as I know actually stands for Patria and Sisu. Sisu is the truck manufacturer in Finland. But again nice overview, cool show.
PASI stands for PAnssari-SIsu if I remember correctly
@@kk-gr3ly You do indeed :)
In English it means simply Armored Sisu
@@kk-gr3ly or that haha
Haha that's one way to save time
Yeah PaSi = Panssari Sisu not Patria and Sisu. The xa-180/185 was designed and manufactured much before the Patria even existed.
I drove PASI in my military year. It`s hard to see out of, especially when the "flaps" are put down on the wind screen. But it surprisingly similar to drive than a normal truck. Driving it on a lake was the best part, because it feels weird to float around on a vehicle that is meant for land. My best army memories were when we get to drive PASI`s full speed in the woods. (I actually got yelled at by my liutenant: "If you would drive like that with people onboard, there would be no one able to fight after the ride!!!") You can just keep your foot down and it goes everywhere. Great machine. I drove those back in 2005, so i have no experience on the new model.
I drove PaSi/XA-180 as well. I think it is better to drive than normal truck. Because it has lower center of gravity, and 4 out of 6 wheels turn. so it is more balanced and can turn in more narrow places than normal truck. Ofc vision is more restricted than in normal truck. but there is leader to spot tight places. However, I wouldn't want have my head outside in real situation. But then we would not be too concern about hitting trees ;)
I was vehicle commander on the old Pasi (XA 180), it was pretty bare bones experience. I did a bit of driving in training too. The seats up front were uncomfortable, the seats in the back even worse, suspension pretty bad and so on. It was a lot of fun though, specially as a commander as standing up from the hatch you could use your own legs as springs, but on a bumpy forest road the back was pretty uncomfortable.
i was a truck driver in the finnish defence forces. mostly drove off-road trucks like Sisu SA-240, Sisu SA-150 and Sisu E11t 6x6. you should react to them as well.
sisu E11t was my favorite.
Being in the back of the PASI was actually nice. We didn't do too much offroading, but the times we did, it wasn't so bad. I always felt like Pasi was my home base, since it was warm and dry and had lights inside. 😁
Armour sloping is done to increase the thickness against projectiles from a straight angle. It's like you have to walk further to cross a road if you walk at a 45° angle than if you walk at a right angle to the curb.
"Redirecting" doesn't really work against modern armour piercing projectiles.
Side armour is usually so thin that sloping doesn't do much, which is why almost all battle tanks have straight sides. However, every bit of reduced volume means that you need less armour and therefore save weight, so sloping the sides makes sense if you don't need the space.
While sloped armor does not work against modern AP shells, it does not matter in light vehicles. All APFSDS type ammunations will penetrate this kind of armor anyway. Sloping and making ammunation to richochet is still valid way to defeat ammunation of large caliber machineguns which still use old style of AP ammunation as it is almost impossible to make valid APFSDS to calibers under 20-25mm.
The Patria XA-188 GVV , was special order for the dutch military used with the dutch marines , army and as ambulance. they where an early 200 variant. .
Make sure you dont eat anything before you go offloading in the back of that thing.
300KW = 402 Hp. 1870NM = 1380 FtLbs.
Great vehicle for delivering Pizza.
6:33 "kiinni on ku alko jouluna" 🤣🤣🤣
They’re some badass looking vehicles!
Mate keep up the good work with these for videos. I don’t personally have ties to the military but I’m fascinated by it and your videos are give such a good insight. Cheers mate, all best 👍🏻🇺🇸🇬🇧
Best APC ever made for rough terrain. Ofcourse other statistics are not as *the* best, but very good regardless.
The drive was great. It feels weird sitting in front of the front wheels.
That's what I love about driving trucks. Buses are the same (although I've never driven one) feels weird at first when you think you are about to hit a wall but just miss it eh?
Well he was a very successful rally driver his entire life so thats why he is so excellent driver.
Awesome Work Bro, Thanks 👍 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland 🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
Parolannummi is place where we have a Panzer Brigade. I served there -99, great memories!
92-93 PsPionk.
I was in finnish army at 2000. In that time Pasi was exelent, onely difficult thing was geting out of the vehicle fast because doors was a pit tiney.
That driver in beginning is famous Finnish rally driver. Markku Alen. He drove in 70's
1:07 he is really famous he drived rallycars around 70's to 90's he was in wrc class. One of worlds best..
Finland is in the process of buying about 60 fighter aircrafts. We choose between 5 candidates. Next friday there will be an Air Show in Kaivopuisto, a beautiful park in Helsinki, free of charge. They expect 150 000 people to show up. In 2017 there were 130 000 people. There are videos from the event on YT.
Patria's mortar systems might be their best products. Patria Nemo is a turreted, light weight and remote-controlled 120 mm mortar system with a high level of mobility, protection and accuracy.
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That guy is retire world class off-road rally driver who while serving in military back in the day also drove Pasi.
Checkout Patris NEMO, it's 120 mm mortar vehicle on that platform.
Ok so PaSi is short for PanssariSisu = Armor Sisu (Sisu was the defence contractor). The name became famous for their armored personnel carriers and other vehicles, now replaced by similar, more modern vehicles manufactured by Patria.
We have Pasi's yes, but mostly we are still transported with trucks like you said that you mostly use! Great content, i like to see professional soldier comments about our military stuff. It gives lots of perspective.
The Pasi is for me the best vehicle in the finnish military once you learn how to drive it, of course since it is from the 80's and 90's it feels quite old sometimes but it always works in any terrain.
Only thing that I would change about it is the automatic gearbox, and get a 6-speed manual instead.
We had the amv-360 but had little time with the 180, one thing for sure is if there is any problems with the 360 you cant do enything yourself. But the old 180/185 are so basic so easy to repair.
I have experience with old school XA-180. We had over heating problems in Africa. Even after we did modifications to cooling system. Only way was to keep high revs on the paths. Really good vehicle to run and live in bushes.
I had experience with XA-203 model that came with a turret that you controlled with a joystic. I had the chance to try it in one of the coastal training and the target was a radio controlled man sized plane. It was flown at 400 meters away from us so we had to take quite a bit of lead to hit it. I was the last one and we ran out of normal bullets so I got 200 tracers to fire in full auto, it was a lot of fun. The turret was usually mounted with either 12.7mm machine gun or a grenade launcher.
Teknavi is a TV show that has similar short reviews of cars, boats, bikes and practically everything with an engine. The driver there, Markku Alén, is actually a former Finnish WRC driver with a 2nd in world list of WRC stage victories.
And no, the 6x6 Patria is not in active service. It's something the Patria as a company is developing and selling co-op with Finnish and Latvian defence forces.
Think the newest APC in full service in Finland is the Patria AMV 8x8.
They are pretty cool, saw a couple being transported on a Low Loader to the firing range in Shoebury (they test missiles and tanks on that range).
1:26 Parolannummi is the place where most of the tank crews and the tank brigade is being trained at. It has a lot of good and demanding terrain for tank and vehicle exercises
Reminds me of the days being a xa-185 driver for 9 months. Would be nice to test the new ones.
7.1L engine! Is that not akin to most American cars? Lol
American cars always astound me with how big their engines are.
This thing also goes nearly 60mph, that bloody impressive for a 19ton vehicle. Not far off the speed limit on our UK motorways lol. Faster than an HGV (Or LGV if you are one of the younger guys. God only knows why they changed it).
Whoops, that was the old one. 9.3L engine, top speed of even closer to 60mph and weighs 24ton!!
That is bloody fast as hell for its weight. Hope it has good breaks lol
Edit: Yeah, HGV's have a special break called the 'retarder' (at least that's what it's called in the uk) use it for going down hills when you have a full load just so the thing doesn't run away from you.
Lastly, just from watching this and it being from Finland I can almost certainly say these dudes are famous ex-rally drivers. Just a shame we never got to see them do the famous Scandinavian flick!!
Guess that would be next to impossible in a 6x6 that I doubt you can turn the traction control off from lol
Apparently there was or is still old Pasi with upgraded performance that goes 130-140kmh in middle east
Original design made by sisu, used all over the world on un operations, primarily in Lebanon with UNIFIL, Finns and Irish and most of the force used them. Irish replaced them with 8x8 mowag piranha 3s
*PAROLANUMMI!?* Panssariprikaati represent. =D
That is Parolan Leijona. (Parola Lion) Statue. Raised in memory of Tzar Alexander II visit of 1863. Dressed in Uniform of the Finnish Guard, he inspected Finnish Army. Senator J.V. Snellman also got him sign the declaration about status of Finnish language.
Patria and Lockheed Martin agreed to cooperate in the competition for the US Marines MPC (Marine Personnel Carrier) program that was set to replace the LAV-25. The USMC planned to obtain 600 MPC vehicles. Patria was to deliver the AMV 8×8 vehicle. Lockheed Martin Systems Integration was responsible for the MPC offer, as well as system integration, survivability systems, the US production line, and networking and logistics. In August 2012, the Marines gave Lockheed a developmental contract for their vehicle, called the Havoc.
For protection against mine attacks, the Havoc would have used a 'subframe' rather than a V-hull. On 3 April 2013, the Havoc successfully completed amphibious testing as part of its evaluation for the MPC program.
The Marine Personnel Carrier was put on hold in June 2013, restarted in February 2014, and then restructured as Phase 1 of the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) program, which included the previous MPC competitor entries.
During the summer of 2013, the Havoc successfully completed protection systems testing during a series of blast tests. The vehicle completed all threshold and objective protection system testing, with instrumentation indicating that no disabling injuries would have resulted to any of the three crew members and nine dismounted Marines. Lockheed also delivered a report demonstrating the high degree of commonality between the Havoc and other Marine Corps vehicles, aimed at reducing cost, training requirements, and logistics needs.
The Lockheed Havoc AMV completed the Nevada Automotive Test Center's Butte Mountain Trail course in September 2014. Lockheed planned to offer the Havoc in the Marine Corps' ACV Phase 1 program, and give them 16 vehicles to test once a Request for Proposals (RFP) was released in early 2015. However, in July 2015 partnership between Patria and Lockheed Martin came to an end, and Havoc was not offered to the Amphibious Combat Vehicle program.
In June 2018, the BAE design was selected, with an initial order of 30 ACVs. In June 2019, BAE Systems and Iveco were awarded a contract to develop Command and 30mm gun armed variants.
On 15 October 2020, Iveco announced that the first fleet of 18 ACVs had been delivered to a platoon of Marines after five years of testing development.
On 10 December 2020, the Marine Corps and BAE Systems announced the commencement of full-rate production, with an initial batch of 36, expected to grow to 72 in early 2021 with an option for 80 vehicles per year thereafter. The subcontract for the ACV's remote turret went to Kongsberg Defense Systems with the Protector RT20.
A January 2021 report from the Department of Defense's Director of Operational Test & Evaluation (DOT&E) pointed to several problems with the ACV, including cramped quarters, difficult egress and frequent breakdown
Alen's "Maximum Attack" is the way to go in the military as well. Hit 'n Run.
finnish cool language
They do wax lyrical as in the expression " I eat iron and shit steel chain
Niin perkele on..
@@menudaluna962 khyl
No älähä mittää kuule ei muutaku opiskelemhan siitä sitte perrkeleen hurri
You wondered that incline, the most scariest thing I did in army was over 45 degree decline with Sisu SA-240 RaSi. It had semiautomatic transmission with turbine so there was almost zero engine brake. My instructor just kept saying "don't touch brakes, don't touch brakes!" :D
My favourite PASI is the one that picked me up from my position at the extreme test...
Had been like 5 days in the forest and slept around 16 hours during that time, then it went wild and I was kept awake for almost 72 hours.
We got position with my partner to secure and he had the radio. We were supposed to be picked up 2 hours from deployment, but ended up being there more that 12 hours, with full gear (35kg+rifle) and even getting to position took like 2 hours walking (with gear).
When I finally got to the PASI, I threw my backpack into the middle, took my helmet as pillow and just slept. It's maybe the best feeling of my life to wake up for few seconds when others of my group came aboard. I mumbled something, don't know to this date what, but they told me I was mumbling the pickup positions of other groups.
I was a PASI driver in Finnish military... 9 months training... Pasi is easy to drive, driver/leader/crew comfort. Cold in winter. Was fun shooting AA gun mounted at top.
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The place they went to is the Armored Brigade in Parola. The statue was the Parolan leijona or "The Lion of Parola" it was made in 1868 to honor the visit of Alexander II of Russia. Anyway I served there in the Armoured AA battery.
And i've driven up and down the same hills they drove here. And seeing it first hand i can say it is pretty fucking insane to see a PASI go up and down those hills like nothing even in deep snow during winter.
The Patria AMW XA-300 6x6 replaces the Pasi XA series in the product catalog and uses some automotive components from the Patria AMV used by Finland and Poland for fleet commonality. It is less capable in some areas than AMV but but costs about half as much in baseline configuration They are meant to compliment each other. Germany, Sweden, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are part of a joint program on this vehicle called CAVS and several orders have already been placed. Latvia has orders placed for 200 so far with deliveries from last fall, Finland has a letter of intent on 160 and Sweden I believe has firm orders for about 20 IIRC.
Main target market beyond the partner countries is probably M113 users looking to replace their fleets and obviously as a replacement for extant XA series vehicles, some of which are now 3 decades old. And obviously, AMV users.
The more usual transport vehicles used in low threat situations that don't require an armored vehicle are the Sisu SA-240 "Rasi" and Sisu E11T "Eemeli". Both have the ability to carry removable elements with seats facing outwards to the sides, that can either fill up the whole back or just a part of it (which makes it possible to carry soldiers and equipment at the same time)
There are also many other trucks that are only used to carry stuff but not personnell
Never got to drive the Pasi's but I was lucky enough to drive pretty much every non-armoured truck during my military service. Maybe the most memorable was an armoured truck called the Sisu E13TP 8x8 a.k.a the Ant. Worth checking out as well :) Also saw the Pasi's once in action training their "swimming" capabilities on a lake which was pretty cool to see!
I was leader and sometimes a driver in all of the pasi models except one while i was in conscription. I drove/lead xa-180 xa-202 and xa-203. From these one i preferres the older model xa-180 because of the torque and speed. It was alot lighter than the newer models so it was more agile in finnish forest areas. Mainly my vehicle was xa-202 because it had built in communications systems and i was a back up leader for communications team.
Teknavi is like Topgear yea
You should check Patria AMV too. It's the more armored version with different arming options like 120mm cannon and Amos mortar.
Pasi can be equipped with 120mm Nemo mortar system too.
After all this time following you, I'm still loving your content my good man! It only keeps on getting better. 1 x virtual hug for appreciation!
You can literaly sleep sideways inside the crew place. U need to flip the benchs down and u and u battlebuddy can sleep👌🏻
In a BTR-60 sleeping in the back over the gearboxes was the best spot :)
Pasi means PAnssari SIsu (Armoured Sisu), while the official name is XA-180/185/188/203. Pasi was developed by a Finnish truck manufacturer Sisu in 80's. 1997 Sisu company was split and military vehicle manufacturing became part of newly formed Finnish military industry company Patria. Patria continued manufacturing Pasis until 2004. Same year begun the deliveries of Patria AMV 8x8 infantry fighting vehicle, which since then has been sold to Poland, Finland, Slovenia, Croatia, South-Africa, Sweden and UAE.
New Patria 6x6 is an APC intended to same role as the old Pasi, but with latest technology and performance. Patria 6x6 has been tested by various countires in Nordic and Baltic region and it is the selected platform fo Finnish-Latvian joint development program for a Common Armoured Vehicle System. Serial contract is awaited within this year.
About the older gentleman in this video: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markku_Al%C3%A9n
Our armed forces had Pasi's, which they used in Afghanistan. A couple of incidents involving roadside IED's made clear that they could not take such a blast. We replaced them with the Bushmaster, which is a far more suitable vehicle for that type of environment. Our remaining Pasi's have been sold to Estonia.
Parolannummi is the home of our glorious armoured brigade and the trails they're driving are where new tank crews train to drive tanks. Patria vehicles are in service in Finland and in few other countries too like in Poland, Slovenia, Sweden etc.
That's also already a old model the newer ones are better armoured and more modular and are mostly 8x8 and the new models are silent as the night. One drove up to me and my squad and we only heard the gravel move under it's tires and when we turned around, there it was staring right at us maybe 50m away. And driving them? Just like driving a big van or a smaller truck.
Look up MASI (maasto sisu) that's what we drove around in with light artillery. More like what you mentioned as a general use off road truck.
I ou got to drive in the back of PASI once or twice and it just felt wild how fast the guys were driving on roads like that
Parolannummi was my service place 92-93. I was MT-LBV tank driver.
Yea, I went though older Pasi course during change of century. Lot of people would have paid top money to do that, it was awesome to drive back then. New one is probably way better.
i drove xa-202 pasi at my military service and drivability was smooth and easy! almost like normal truck but more compact:D
I noticed that angling in inside armor is about the same as old PaSi (Panssari Sisu) So that lets me to believe that new 6by6 has either active armor or at least some spaced armor or sides are a modular design so it can either be used for extra armor or equipment.
So When I was serving my ”time” in the military as a conscript I was in the Naval infantry, so we had no Pasi, but I got to ride one in Lukio wich is kinda like highschool but still isn’t.( I was 18 at the time). And there was this course we could take to like spend one weekend in military, learning basic stuff like living there and we got to ride Pasi and I just remember it driving up some huge ass rocks with no problems and my waist getting totaled beacause I was standig in the roof hatch and getting thrown to all possible directions 😂
Hi bro hope you enjoyed your time in the uk , weather has been pretty good for once lol
the main combat apc is the patia AMW. then there is the CV9030 which is more like a infantry fighting vehicle or armoured infantry assault vehicle / assault tank
then for stuff like artillery and logistics there is a different troop transportation most likely Sisu E-11 which can climb a fucking tree
Driver is markku alen and 19 world champion on rally + 6 win on dinnish rally
The brake assist is a common braking solution for heavy vehicles that conserves brake plates. I think it restricts exhaust gas flow so that the cylinders brake by compressing gas.
Those pasi’s can also be equipped with fire extinguishing stuff that we had on a navy (in Finland ofc) as so I hope that the new revision of 6x6 will also have this same opportunity, as it can be a huge advantage to stop forest fires as we did have one here not too long ago 😶
But for the Pasi, it is brute - does handle as it should and in the back it was always fun to travel 😅
I was a platoon leader during my conscription, and PASI was our main vehicle. I didn't drive it, but I spent a lot of hours in the back of it, either sitting down or standing up from the hatch.
I have to say from a passenger's perspective, that it's actually quite comfortable even in rough terrain. The suspension is incredible, it's like sitting on a trampoline or something when it goes up and down the hills. People can actually sleep in the back during longer transits even if the terrain looks like that in the video.
But if you drive it too fast down a pit it'll bump you quite hard, so it's up to the driver as well how it feels. Sitting down that isn't an issue, but standing up (upper torso out of the hatch) can be pretty tough, but your legs can still withstand basically any kind of terrain.
Pity they never showed the hatch. Thanks would never have known about that if you never said. The upgrade have the same? I imagine it will as I doubt that they would only have a single exit from an rpg target
I was a XA-180M driver (2/19) and I can say driving feels awesome! Suspensions feel to work better on the drivers seat than in the back ;)
I believe the 6x6 is Patria's budget friendly brother for the AMV. Even though every user seems to be happy with Patria's vehicles Patria has not had the best of luck with big contracts lately. Back in 2015 Locheed Martin/Patria Havoc was pulled from the USMC's ACV program and Patria didn't do any better in Australia's Land 400 program with their AMV35.
At least there is still a chance for Patria to be awarded with a contract to modernize the Stryker Brigades mortar systems with Nemo. That would be cool.
Funny memories. I was in The army -87 in Dragsvik and was often in the first Pasi. I forgat my helmet two times in the back of vehacle and banged my head in bad terrain. After that i took my helmet on in the future. :)
Waiting to see a reaction video of the Patria AMV, the more futuristic flagship model.
u should totally react to finland recent event with jets !!! super sick vid as always bro !!!
Got a good video to watch: it’s on a Netflix documentary called ‘medal of honour’ season 1, episode 1. It’s an amazing story about ‘Sylvester Antolak’ honestly blew my mind, amazing guy, amazing history and just an all round bad ass! As someone from the UK, I hadn’t heard of him until just now, but wow!
i have not driven pasi, but i have been passanger in the back in few military trainings. It can destroy your butt XD. Biggest thing is, if you have weak stomach, do not eat anything b4 entering the back, cuz when we used pasi, it was always in deep forest roads and such, so in no way form "smooth" ride.
The driver (Markku Alen) is average Finnish driver. Here is little video from his golden years th-cam.com/video/TJSHxn3tYPA/w-d-xo.html
FDF has different transport vehicles that the majority of troops use that arent armored, example Sisu E11, Sisu A2045 and Masi
PASI was great, and you can mount even anti-tank missile system on it. Finland has a rock base, so we have kilometres of tunnels - warehouses caved into the rock, many surprises which they don’t show publicly but would be used if there would be an aggression towards Finland.
TekNavi is like the Finnish TopGear but with minimal humor. They mainly just test/review new cars etc.
The older guy, Markku Alen, is a Finnish rally legend.
Tech navi is just a TV show
We had the ambulance version of this in our company (Sweden).