Setting up Lancer (what you need to know, and a little extra)

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  • This video took so long to make... Like idk how long I was cutting audio and fixing images, but I really think this one turned out really well. I hope this helps you new players and GM's get a better grasp of the game.
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  • @MILDMONSTER1234
    @MILDMONSTER1234 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    Lancer is gonna get more popular thanks to Armored Core 6

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +41

      So hype for that game... once I get enough money for it... or storage space... or time... but HYPED ANYWAYS

    • @elispencer760
      @elispencer760 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      For real. I’m guessing that’s how Lancer videos got into my algorithm was because of Armored core. That’s how I got introduced last week

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@elispencer760 very excited for AC to come out, I cant play it atm, but im happy to see gameplay nonetheless

    • @starofaetherius
      @starofaetherius ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That was how I found Lancer! I was guzzling up mech content and Lancer dropped into my recommended

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@starofaetherius haha, that's awesome, man I'm so hype for AC

  • @timbomb374
    @timbomb374 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I gotta admit the idea of being able to seperate the character roleplaying from their abilities in combat sounds pretty great. The character isn't just defined by what they can do in combat

    • @Google_Corporation
      @Google_Corporation ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is one of the best parts for sure! I have played in LANCER and recently ran a year long ICON campaign, which is Tom's (the author) other game. It's a mythic fantasy game inspired by Legend of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Shadow of the Colossus, etc. You have a completely separate class for your narrative (called a bond) and a class for your combat (called class+job). My players and I really loved this, as there's no reason you can't be good at both narrative and combat! 5e tends to balance both together, so it's hard to be great at both. But if you think about it... There's no reason you can't be good at both. If everyone can do it, then why not? It just makes everyone have more fun! This is a design philosophy that applies to the rest of the game too; in both systems, you will have multiple abilities that are extremely strong, often with no limits on use. 5e would have you believe that's broken, but no! Everyone has it, so it's balanced, but more importantly, no ability is always good. Take 5e action surge for example; surging would always be a good idea if you had unlimited uses. In LANCER and ICON, abilities will have a cost, not always be useful, etc. By having that be your decision-driver instead of having limited resources, combat becomes much more interesting!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      MHHMMM, if you are interested in more of these style of games I suggest looking into blades in the dark, and beam saber!

    • @bobhill-ol7wp
      @bobhill-ol7wp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's pretty much every ttrpg except 5e

  • @Eleven217
    @Eleven217 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    "Being able to know EVERY MECH is an unreasonable expectation of yourself"
    Joke's on you I'm into that shit

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hahahahaa

    • @rotisseriepossum
      @rotisseriepossum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      literally everyone i play w is like this and theres me like 'that one pretty'

    • @svenabel2987
      @svenabel2987 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Meanwhile me, with 349 Frames on my Comp/Con: "I'm tired, Boss"

    • @IcarusMundi
      @IcarusMundi 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Empakaai, GO!

  • @TheTheThem
    @TheTheThem 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    My forever gm asked for someone to host a lancer game for him instead, and now I am going lancer, and ttrpgs, for the first time ever.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      YOOOO, good luck, I have some other videos to help set up your game, but also, just ask any questions here and Ill help if i can.

  • @jonp8015
    @jonp8015 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I was playing Battletech before I played D&D, and Lancer feels inspired by both without actually copying anything from either.
    Systemically, it looks like a great middle ground between the two.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Whats battletech, I've heard a little about it

    • @jonp8015
      @jonp8015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@thatturtlegm It's the tabletop game that the Mechwarrior series of videogames was based on. It's been around since the 80s and the basic rules have been pretty much unchanged, but with new books adding rules for niche situations.
      Think about that. Nearly 40 years of new books... Adding rules...
      Also, nearly 40 real-world years of lore development. The setting is vast.

    • @bobhill-ol7wp
      @bobhill-ol7wp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well it unfortunately still copied the clunkiness of 5e roll to hit AC grid based combat, where nothing interesting happening can be a usual outcome

  • @novocaine2279
    @novocaine2279 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I've been wanting to run a gundam campaign out of this

    • @duskdeadman4333
      @duskdeadman4333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yeah

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you find a book or ruleset for it send me that link!

    • @NayrAnur
      @NayrAnur ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Universal Century?

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NayrAnur Link?

    • @NayrAnur
      @NayrAnur ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thatturtlegm It's actually the official name of the main timeline of the Gundam universe. Sorry to disappoint.

  • @justabreadguy7688
    @justabreadguy7688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like the enthusiasm and perspective, but 80% of this video was just:
    “you can roleplay in the roleplay game”
    “you can make stuff up as a GM”
    “You should learn the system if you want to GM”
    Like you clearly care and are trying to be informative, but you kill the attention span of the viewer with useless word vomit at the beginning.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Makes plenty of sense! (comments like this one are super helpful, I appreciate you not being a dick about it either some folks don't do that ha-ha) Alot of people underestimate the potential of a game like lancer with how "open" it really is at its core. Plenty of people come by with new ideas, so it was my intention to foster their own creativity on the game and let them come to their own conclusions on how to run it best. (but I can agree on a look back of the script it is a bit much at times!) Some of my other videos focus a lot more on the details of the game, if that's more to your fancy!

  • @gregorycarmichael6907
    @gregorycarmichael6907 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very helpful video, but oh my god you just reminded me about Hawken. I was never any good but that game was always so cool to me and definitely is part of why I'm planning a Lancer campaign 8 years later

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      (thanks for the comment!) And I wish you good fortune on your new lancer game! (Also praise the sun! love the pic of Solaire)

  • @itsemmit
    @itsemmit ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Neat video! I've never heard anyone describe Lancer as a roleplay heavy game before since the pilot rules are kind of really anemic compared to the mech combat, but certainly an interesting perspective!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks! I've seen a bunch of ways to play both lancer, and other games using the blades in the dark base system, many of which that allow the players to craft a more detailed narrative grab my attention! More than happy to recommend the friends at the table podcast on Spotify!

    • @kenansabic2901
      @kenansabic2901 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      IMO the way that triggers work and how there isn't actually that many rules for pilots leaving it up for interpretation makes the game easier on the roleplaying side as the players aren't bombarded with too many mechanics and can stretch their legs more. I hadn't run this system yet but as I am reading the rules I keep thinking how so many of the things my players struggled with in 5e are just streamlined in this system.

  • @desiredriving
    @desiredriving 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    first time GMing and second time playing Lancer overall, and almost none of my players have played a TTRPG before, this video is a godsend and I really appreciate this upload.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! I love lancer so much, and wanted to bring that energy to youtube, glad this helped you out!

  • @andrewhardy5632
    @andrewhardy5632 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Learned about Lancer randomly from watching AC content. This breakdown was fantastic. Thank you!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love the support! (Yah AC has been so good, I can't wait to make videos about it)

  • @davidhanham8268
    @davidhanham8268 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I once had a project to adapt Cogent Roleplay made by @TableTopTime to be able to use mech pilots and mech with the various Titan fall 2 frames. ended up scrapping the project but I wrote a mini campaign to go with it. NOW WITH THIS muahaha ... I may be able to run my module with a system dedicated to mech combat!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว

      THAT SOUNDS SO COOL!!!! (I once helped my friend build a fallout new Vegas 5e adaptation before WOTC released theirs it was rough around the edges but super fun)

  • @grindcoreninja6527
    @grindcoreninja6527 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you want to get into DMing and you're concerned about copying things, don't, I should be called 40K because I be stealing everything all the time for all types of TTRPGS.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A book I've been reading has this section about how the author and his friend (both DM's) use a note for movie cliches they love to use in game and players never make the connection LOL

  • @Qbertqueso
    @Qbertqueso ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im going to rip off Ironblooded Orphans so hard!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XD that sounds awesome, if you do make a sick mech loadout let me know!

    • @an8strengthkobold360
      @an8strengthkobold360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same...

  • @humannerd26
    @humannerd26 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why is the thumbnail Beamsaber when you're talking about lancer??

  • @dennisstark9764
    @dennisstark9764 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Im reading the Corebook at the Moment and Im hyped! I realy want to make this a thing in my local Club, if it is as good as it seems.
    In my head though it was like a Western with Mechs until this point😂 watching this, I realized I can do a lot more, if I want. But maybe still start small with the SciFi Western Idea for the start😅

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A sci-fi western with mecha.... that sounds so fun actually!

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It can be western, ruins exploration, mystery story, war story (even though the setting limits the war aspect), sports...

  • @galaxic2332
    @galaxic2332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I personally believe this game is better than and deserves more players than DND 5e. Recently found this game thanks to a friend and we are LOVING lancer. It's so much fun. There's so much freedom in what you can do, speccing into any mech to mix and match parts and build whatever you want! So many options and it's always cool!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Thank you!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should check out my Mech tech videos on the manticore and the swallowtail both are informative and meant for new players!

  • @AAhmou
    @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว +12

    3:14 More like an entire galactic arm.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No joke, the scale can be just mind boggiling....

    • @galaxic2332
      @galaxic2332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@thatturtlegmThat's the beauty of space rpgs! You can go anywhere!

  • @Khaleb_0
    @Khaleb_0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Probably been said to death but your mic is really low, great video but had to blast the speakers to hear it :)

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      (This was before I had my new mic, your right it's been stated, but I completely understand you, it's before I knew anything on sound editing more than, wow cut that out, wow add that in hahaha good memories XD) Awesome that you enjoyed the video!

  • @bred269
    @bred269 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve recently found Lancer, and I’ve Wanted to play it so much
    Thanks for giving advice and tips on what to do

    • @missrae1869
      @missrae1869 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course you found out about lancer, you deltarune homosapien.

  • @Bashaka104
    @Bashaka104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the everest doesnt have an official desing cause all everest are different

  • @RoughGalaxyYT
    @RoughGalaxyYT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    welp you didn't link any of the people you talked about "like friends at the table" so off I go to find them.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      open.spotify.com/show/69apHMMJix0kVb7BYpdsZa?si=0b3a3c42f05e4ca6

  • @Pixel-ff1kn
    @Pixel-ff1kn ปีที่แล้ว +16

    wonderful video! fell in love with this system as soon as i saw it while looking for systems to run! Ive already run a few sessions but your video def still helped!

  • @bryanadam4578
    @bryanadam4578 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude, fucking great video. I have been trying to get information on the game, and no one seems to want to talk about it.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks! With armored core 6 out im going to be making more Mecha based content soon

    • @bryanadam4578
      @bryanadam4578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatturtlegm What other plugins, or modules, or things do you recommend to people starting this?

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bryanadam4578 Beam saber has been up my recommendation list, listen to the podcast listed here for great TTRPG recommendations, as they play SO MANY GOOD ONES, War in the year 3000 has been referenced to me too. Wish I had more specifics for you, and hope this helps scratch the itch you have!

  • @TheFatalcrest
    @TheFatalcrest ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😂 im doing too many games at once atm, but when i have time. Oh. Oh i am totally working on a Lancer game set up.

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, I feel that! I have other videos covering lancer basics if you need the help, otherwise your best friend is the COMP/CON webscite!

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatturtlegm Thanks for the tips!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      anytime!
      @@TheFatalcrest

  • @GiggaGMikeE
    @GiggaGMikeE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish i could either find a ttrpg group or make a solo Lancer campaign

  • @aaron8977
    @aaron8977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought the books and they’ll be here this weekend. I already know my friends are gonna just walk around in their mechs to intimidate everyone like some giant steel automatons 🤣

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats pretty awesome, here is to many good games to come

  • @limbothebiggay1709
    @limbothebiggay1709 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this! I'll use it as reference to be a GM!(I haven't gm'd before so this is great!)

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! Im making an edit for a manticore mech super soon!

  • @santiagofantoni2643
    @santiagofantoni2643 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Amazing video my friend!

  • @ethanemerson4862
    @ethanemerson4862 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ( 4:09) “what about aliens?”
    Me, who’s a Robo-Tech fan: guess who’s bringing in the copyright-neutral Zentraedi!?
    If you don’t know who they are, I’ll be happy to explain.

  • @Chickensea10
    @Chickensea10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good luck with your channel

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I am actually super close to having 500 subs!

    • @Chickensea10
      @Chickensea10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatturtlegm no problem! Go go go! You can do it!

  • @rzu1474
    @rzu1474 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive went to compcon and thing's youve shown aren't there.
    I tried making an npc, i can't.
    I tried looking for a mech i saw somewhere else and its not there.
    And then the site showed me a list that totalled 200$. Hurray

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats very strange to me, want to add me on discord and ill try to help you?

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, I also can't promise that I can fix it, BUT, I'm sure I can point you in the right direction if nothing else!

    • @rzu1474
      @rzu1474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatturtlegm
      Sure?
      What's your tag?

    • @terryguldimann6062
      @terryguldimann6062 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both of these issues are related to LCPs (Lancer Content Packs). Basically add on modules that have data for new frames / manufacturers / weapons / skills / talents / etc.
      If you are trying to make NPCs you need to the "Lancer Core NPCs". You get this when you buy the book (digital or physical).
      you can see the full list of LCPs that he has installed at 7:18

    • @rzu1474
      @rzu1474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terryguldimann6062
      Ok, I'm broke, so I guess no lancer for me

  • @jakspica
    @jakspica ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET?!

    • @thatturtlegm
      @thatturtlegm  ปีที่แล้ว

      because I am a fool, and at the time of the video I barely knew how to do anything related to sound

  • @john-lenin
    @john-lenin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May have run not may have ran