Why I Stopped Making Arcade1up Content
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- What are your thoughts on Arcade1up... are you still on board or like me has the Kool-Aid worn off already?
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Only bought the marvel vs capcom machine, the one with the special edition art, because that was the art I was planning on using for the sides of the custom build arcade I was planning, thought I would save a couple bucks by Frankenstein-ing it together with my plans. Turns out it was still a little too small for my six foot tall self😂 should’ve read the measurements more carefully I guess but I’ve still made it work.
Nevertheless your video was quite enjoyable, well reasoned and structured, a good watch. Thumbs up from me
Thanks, and that's EXACTLY the point I'm trying to make when people argue about modding a 1up... it's still just too small and flimsy no matter what you put inside it. You could have 1000s of games and the best controls but it's still a tiny poorly made cabinet. You just got pinned 👍
Not to mention MvC2 still isn't online, it was my first and last cabinet from them.
Born in 74. I own 2 cabs, ATM pinball, and 2 Partycades. While I agree with your points, I have no complaints. My cave looks amazing, my friends love playing them, as do I. Straight out of the box. I don't feel the need to upgrade. It just fills my need for some nostalgic fun, when I need that need filled, at a fraction of the price. Although I should point out, that I've never paid close to full price. Again, all of your points are completely valid, and you do address myself, as a type, I just thought I'd give my two cents on the subject.
I totally get your point and I appreciate the comment.
The kool-aid wore off when they trippled the prices and the quality took a massive dive. The controls are cheap, the speakers are garbage, they're still using 14 inch displays when they should be at a 19 inch standard by now. If I'm paying $800/$900 for a 3/4 cabinet, it should be worth the $900. But, the quality has taken such a dive, I'm not interested in buying them anymore. I'm saving up for a legends ultimate, a1up by now should have opened a store front (since Gen 3 + have a micro SD card port) and started selling just the games to add to your cabinet instead of paying $800 for 2-5 games on 1 cabinet.
This is why I only buy them when they're discounted. By then, I know all the pros/cons and common or even necessary mods. Only then do I truly know the value proposition they offer.
true, I just bought the Ridge Racer one at 300, originally 700, but is it really worth 700 if tgey could slash it down to 300 so easily
@@redroversk It's worth will vary from one individual to another. It's definitely not worth $700 to me. I got mine at $400 and feel that's a more honest MSRP IMO.
I think it's cool . Never thought I'd own a game cabinet. I have 5 of them. Yes they had there problems but it beats restoring a 40 year old cabinet.
Those old cabinets look better, run better and play better than those Arcade1Up toys.
@@williambatson2514 agree . Fun for a personal arcade. I don't want to work on them or collect them just play when I can. Total respect for people who can keep the old school cabs alive.
Dude you don’t have to understand!!! I’m sure if I came to your home I could say the same thing about most of the stuff you have! Where does it end. I own a motorcycle that I have 40k invested in, can you understand that purchase? People buy what they like that’s all you have to understand.
Lol, thanks for for stopping by 👍
100 percent agree. By now, Arcade 1up products should be leaps and bounds better over their original releases.
I picked up a Galaga and Final Fight from Walmart for $50 each at the start of Covid. Later that summer, I got a Street Fighter 2 Cocktail version for $150 from Costco (this was the display unit so it was "open box" but complete and working). I'd like to pick up a T2, Killer Instinct, or Simpsons, but not for the prices they are asking. Keep your eyes out for deals, don't pay full price.
Agreed. I got Simpsons for $300 about a month ago. Came with the stool, riser and wall sign. For that price it was worth it, but for the MSRP of $700? No way.
Yeah for those prices for sure worth it.... We got three kids 9, 6 and 4 so these seem like a decent idea.... I just recently came across them while looking at other emulators and similar things. The kids don't really get to play the modern games so much but I could see having one of the multi game emulator set ups for a family game night now and then... and now I'm in a rabbit hole and there are the ubiquitous warring factions apparently. I didn't know there were knockoff arcade loyalists... We really have too much time on our hands I think. We don't need to be passionately attached to every little thing.... Not every slight incline need be a hill on which to die, friends.
My take on this! Real Arcade machines will have more problems down the line. I enjoy both - but I prefer Arcade1up for now. Reasons: The Weight of the machines. Being able to enjoy these games the way they should be played. The Killer Instinct Pro is going in the right direction and glad I got one.
Make a mame cab. If that isn't good enough for you then the arcade 1up is going to fail you in the end. You are trying to get the feeling of having an arcade and 1up cabs aren't going to scratch that itch. You are just buying into things that you will end up either ignoring or selling at a huge loss. Buy once cry once... you are working your way to a deluge of tears.
@@thomgizzizif you can convert an arcade 1up to mame what is the issue?
I've owned defender and star wars games a couple years now. There are 12 in 1, and 3 in 1 games. I made 4 inch risers to go under the 1up risers. They look more realistic and easier to play, love them. I own a huge heavy original defender cabinet that doesn't work. These hit the spot for nostalgic game play, lightweight and not space eaters. Clean working Defender can cost upwards of $1,800 and you need lot of help moving it for ONE game.
Keep in mind, the 3/4 scale is designed for home use, not too heavy, not too large, and more reliable than old school arcades. I agree the buttons and joysticks aren't the best. I swapped mine for Sanwa's. It's also possible to mod these, but the idea is to provide a multi-cade with authentic looking artwork and style, at a fraction of the cost of buying a 40 year old real arcade, even if the prices have basically doubled since they launched in 2018. Now as for that.... That's another issue altogether! Greed and lack of listening to their fan/install base
I still think they could've made them at least taller. They had/have to know that the people buying these are Adults and not kids, right?
I just bought a bunch, I just want to pack 4 of them in my laundry room
It’s still too damm small. Looks like crap. Plus it almost mocks what they we’re attempting to do.
Blah Blah Blah “I swapped mine…. possible to mod” shouldn’t be the issues 😢
Agree with size, home use comments
Collecting vintage Golden Age CRT arcade games is a big undertaking, a niche of a niche.
Weight, size and tech maintenance are too much for most people, same for full size pinball machines. So it's a hobby for dedicated tech oriented types, like guys who have been doing diy PCs or similar for years, including software, is and hardware maintenance.
1up and atgames are targeted at the average consumer, with cost and components to match the market.
Imo, it's a Good Thing the market is flooded with 1ups and similar,. Been seeing many on the craigslists and offerups of the world.
This means lots of cabs and parts for collectors and diyets who want a base to mod from.
A lot of us don't have or want a full woodworking shop with CNC machine to make a good looking cabinet.
So it's finished flatpacks or used 1ups as a base.
It's all good
Are you guys still on board with Arcade1up or like me has the Kool-Aid finally worn off?
I purchased one of them (Pac-Man Namco Legacy) at launch for $349 on sale which I really like. The newer machines are just too expensive and somewhat downgraded in some areas so I have not purchased anymore.
I'm not an end user. I've got a whole different goal in mind with owning these.
Still waiting on new cabinets 🤷🏽♂️
I bought a street fighter II and threw a pi in it in 2018. It was a Christmas gift for my daughter who was 5 at the time. For that purpose it was a good fit. I now have a second daughter who's 4 and she loves smacking around on it too. I spent $200 on the cab and about $250 on everything I've done to it since the initial purchase. I still check in to see if there are any other ones that make sense for me to make space for but so far I've pulled the trigger on none of them. I just haven't had a compelling reason to get any of the other offerings from them. Now that any of the cabinets even on sale still run $300+ I don't think that will change for me anytime soon. I've been tempted by a couple here and there but unless they come out with a good light gun cabinet at a good price with a good screen I don't think I'll be purchasing another one.
@@panikk2 Yeah, sinden tech is great but that tiny screen with the white border i can't do for a light gun game
The main reason people like A1Up is that you can just turn it on a play. There is something said about that.
People say just get the actual arcade. You going to rent that truck for me and then help me move it in my home? Let alone the maintenance that nobody talks about with a purchase like that, particularly with CRT's and how dangerous those can be.
Well then go to a vendor that builds multicades and buy that. Ok...still talking about 1000's of dollars for one that has all the controls and computer in there. And if it is less, then have to provide a monitor, computer and then start dealing with finding roms and emulators. Most poeple do not want to deal with a computer or raspberry pi for hours editing config files and adjusting setting just to get that extra frame dialed in so you can perform that Street Fighter move 1ms quicker.
They just want to take the hour to build it, turn it on and play.
I understand that this may not be for some people. I also understand that some of the things A1UP has done has turned them off to the product. But there is something to be said about just turning it on and playing the game.
Are there some issues? Yes...not going to lie about this, but for some it is more of an issue than others. The online play for NFL Blitz for example. Should online have been out when the cab was released. Yes. However, some do not care because they do not use online and if they do, they will wait until it is available. Does this mean A1UP should have delayed online? No...NFL Blitz, and MVC2 were major snafu's as far as releases, but there are a number of buyers who do not think this is a big issue. Some weigh the faults higher than others and purchase accordingly.
As for people lying...this is done on both sides of the debate. Take the wood quality issue. Even in the response in this chat, I hear people say it is 1/4" thick...it is particle board, which is not true. 1/2 MDF...may not be the quality MDF that you buy in Home Depot...but MDF. But people will still lie about it.
At any rate, I will probably be roasted for this or be called an A1UP fanboy...and so be it...I do not care...at end of the day it is what you enjoy. If not yours, or anyone else's, cup of tea, fully understand that.
A1UP has fumbled and hope they make it right. I like the products and will continue to buy.
I'm glad you enjoy them
Absolutely spot on.
I really don't blame you bro. I agree 100 percent with you. They are just too damn small, and the quality isn't up to par, and not made to withstand grown adults playing on them. It's a kid's toy, and a nostalgic trip. I admire you for speaking out on this topic. Amen about the people who don't even own an Arcade1up and getting in on the drama for clout and views. Well done sir.
Thanks Los. I was initially drawn in by nostalgia and admittedly probably had my expectations too high. I understand why people like them but I can't pretend to anymore
Yep, it's the same people that buy those "mini" consoles. They play them once or twice and never again but just had an overwhelming urge to buy them. Foolish people... oh wait. I did that...
I agree with you, these things suck out of the box.
However, they're perfect for someone like me who is essentially looking for a shell with artwork to mod out. I get most of mine when they're on clearance/used around $200-$300. At that price I can't get a cabinet with artwork and monitor anywhere else.
But yes, it's infuriating how they cut corners for the out of box experience. At the very least they should spend a few extra dollars for better joystick/buttons.
I’m so glad I didn’t pay top dollar for these arcades. You are so right about everything you said.
You’re still paying too much for those crappy countercades you now love that will sit and collect dust from here on our. But I guess since MLP said it and got views , it’s good to copy popular content . Both of you doing a disservice to your viewers.
@@therexershow nah, $99 was fine for me. As far as popular content, if I cared about that, I would have talked about these machines years ago when the hypetrain was hot.
@@therexershow are you just bitter towards everyone 😂?
@@Calwinn nope. Just people who do things and say things that aren’t genuine , not accurate, not honest. And it’s not hard to figure who and when people do those things.
@@The_RadicalOne I guess you missed it when these things were $50 all over the place , probably cause you don’t follow all the 1up shills who were creaming their pants to do social media content covering the $50 dollar countercades.
Lol. Man I just subscribed to you.
Real adult talking.
You are funny as hell, and I don’t know if comedy was your attempt here but you executed, I mean I watched this entire video.
The “WTF” will image was golden with the guy playing on the Street Fighter.
My opinion, they are literally toys.
Appreciate brother.
BTW, that pic of the guy that looked like Santa on his day off bending to see the screen is of a popular A1up content creator LOL
I appreciate that your not "shill-ing" for them. So many other channels wont say anything negative because they NEED Arcade1up to be successful, because thats what their channel is predominately based on. They're to "ties-in" to the brand.
I get what you're saying but I love the MK2 game. The Ms. Pac Man though responds in a poor way. PS. I bought four 3" furniture lifts that helped the height.
Lost me at rexer. That dude isn't even critical at this point. He is a straight troll with his content. Wish he stuck to regular arcade content. But I hear ya. From my perspective I just can't afford real cabs. I can get these cheap and mod them to my liking and still be hundreds less than a real arcade. Trust me. I want the real thing. More than any toy in my bag of hobbies.
But modding a 1up is like putting a V12 in a Pinto... at the end of the day it's still a Pinto.
John D is a shyster.
Great video, I bought the Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 Cabinet and I will say this. It will definitely be the last time I ever preorder from them ever again. Worst experience ever and the fact that they went radio silent after everyone got their Blitz Cab really says a lot about them as a company. I treat these as furniture that looks nice in my room setup so something aren't really a big deal but it doesn't excuse the fact that they treat their customers with no ounce of respect with their products. So I won't be buying another Cabinet until I see some improvements from them. I did an unboxing vid of the MVC2 Cab and even had to mod the sticks and buttons, you're right I just don't know why they can't just come out the box with better sticks and buttons, it baffles me. Subscribed!
Your point about them being luke furniture it well said. I think they are "decor" but essentially the same thing. But yeah, anything over $400 for one of these is too much for what you're getting.
Arcade1Up is a scam.
I never understood the appeal of arcade 1ups. Crappy software emulation, crappy clone controls, crappy monitors...packaged up with some artwork. I prefer playing on my MiSTer, with arcade sticks with sanwa parts, outputting to my 27" CRT, the experience is perfect.
i m 5.7 3/4 foot and i m comfortable playing them on a chair without any riser installed...that aside i understand where youre coming from on the cheapness of these oversized but cool (for me at least) toys eheh
That Costco MK cabinet was also my first (and only) Arcade 1Up. Now, as someone who has owned, and still owns, a full size cabinet, I pretty much knew what I was getting into. It really is a big, pretty toy, but I still enjoy it. Granted, I don't play it that often, but I'm happy I own it. I would like to own the Sega OutRun and Golden Axe cabinets, but I just don't have room, and really can't justify the price anymore. I haven't been keeping up on these, but I was stunned to see the cost of them now. $600 to 800, or more? No. Just, no. At that point, just spend a little more and get a MAME cabinet or something. And to be honest, I'm surprised Arcade 1Up is even still around. I expected them to be a flash in the pan and be gone in a year or so. I expected to see Craigslist flooded with old cabinets for $50, but that hasn't really happened.
Great video. I have been saying this for a while “they look great turned on in my game room when I’m watching football or shooting pool”. They get played some - but not a ton.
I have 4 and the ultimate legends - that’s probably it for me. The prices are too high now and the quality hasn’t improved. Give us a bigger screen, no riser, and Sanwa controls and I’m in again - not sure why that’s so hard??
Ikr... how hard is it too change those 3 things?
8:22 9-months later… you were 100% right haha. Rewatched this and it’s one of your best videos that everyone is finally coming around to agree with.
I appreciate that Mikey. Unfortunately there's still a lot of people out there that just don't see that Arcade1up products are a waste of money and are strictly decor items. Every day there's a new content creator showing off their new cabinet and how "awesome" it is. I do feel a lot of these people will eventually come around and see these toys for what they really are, but there's always another to take their place
Yeah, I agree about the quality. My first and probably last 1up I bought was mvc2. The buttons are really bad on it. I couldn't even DP. I thought I was just bad at it, since I've never actually played an arcade version of the game before. I ended up getting sanwa buttons and noticed an immediate difference. I was able to DP and the buttons were more responsive. For $600 you'd think it would be better with the buttons and sticks. Plus there's still no online.
Arcade1up cabinets are OVERPRICED!!!! 😮😮😮😮
Great video. Like many I found them in 2018 and didn’t pay full price then. I’ve owned many full size cabinets over the years and know these 1ups are cheap toys. I’m baffled by the prices they are asking now when nothing has really improved or changed other than the aesthetics.
$600+ for a 1up is ludacris
I'm sorry but they have changed. I bought an Arcade1up back when they first came out in September 2018 and EVERYONE new they were cheap, cookie cutter shape toys but that didn't matter because you can upgrade any parts you wanted and still came out cheaper than buying a real arcade or multicade. That created a huge boom for the arcade aftermarket.
Today there are different shapes and sizes of cabinets, ever so slightly better parts, light up marquees, more powerful hardware to run more games, WIFI and many other things which resulted in Arcade1up pricing themselves out of a market they created.
No one asked to make Arcade1up cabinets to be more like the real ones with better parts and light up marquees. I blame Arcade1up for listening to TH-camrs for all this mess.
@@sunquestenergyhomesolution96 I'm glad you're happy with 1up but I stand by what I said about these just being decor items.
@@show-me-retro They really are decor. Now they are overpriced decor for I don't even know who?
Yup. Their pro series sell for $1,000! I bought a REAL Galaga for $600 a few months ago.
I genuinely hope a1up fails...they do not deserve the loyalty of their fanbase...they do not reciprocate the loyalty and dedication
Great video
I agree with your point of view.
These cabs are not with the money. There are various companies that make custom-made arcade machines. All reviewers should be honest.
I agree it's just a waste of money it pretty cool to have all them arcades in a room but it's not worth it you would be better off buying some arcade controllers for a PC that would give u the same arcade experience without spending all that money for nothing
Yeah these are basically toys. The price is now so high, just buy an original cabinet. I don’t get it either.
If you’re near St Louis, I can help you cross over to the dark side 😉. I buy broken (original) arcade games super cheap and fix them up. Often times, I have less in them than a 1Up. It’s fun to fix them too.
We need more videos like this that give an honest review
There sure are a lot of people taking shots at Arcade 1Up! In their defense- I have two Partycades (Ms Pac Man 40th and Defender) and for the price I paid I have no complaints. The form factor is great if you have limited space. I passed on the 3/4 size cabs mainly because like you said, you have to play them hunched over. But they do tell you the measurements of them so it shouldn’t be a surprise. Some commenters saying they’re made for kids, is that a bad thing? The company is targeting people who maybe don’t have the skills/resources to build or buy a “real” cab, so its a gateway for someone curious to ‘dip their toe”. If there are quality control issues then thats a legit complaint but the two I have haven’t given me any problems so far🤞🏼
I mentioned I too like the form factor of the partycades
You can buy full sized working arcade games for the price of a 1up machine... you could buy a broken one for a couple hundred and throw a mame machine in there for another hundred as long as the monitor is working.
Amazing video , the sentiments I’m sure are felt by many. This was good stuff , so much is spot on. The Jr cade hahaha. And people were talking about it.
Lol, that Jr. video was my Citizen Kane. Thanks for helping me see the light 😉
In my opinion, Atgames offers better products compared to 1Up.
I think you’re forgetting these cabs aren’t really meant to be played….they’re a novelty item that you can simulate and relive the feeling of walking into an arcade during your younger years.
The purpose of these cabs is to make you think of memories or times in your life you enjoyed these games, at the end of the day they’re just a display piece.
I'm pretty sure I said the exact same thing LOL. I think the difference is I had higher expectations but I gave them a pass in the beginning but I refuse to anymore
First time seeing your channel! Liked
Thanks brother
I have to admit that I have had a nostalgic interest in these cabinets but once I got an opportunity to get some hands on time with a few of them I quickly realized that they are an expensive novelty at best. To each their own but for me I can't see myself spending enough time with them to justify the cost and they would quickly become something that is just taking up space in the room.
Well said
They look really cool. Nostalgic and all that with the art, but they are just so tiny. I had seen my first one a few months ago and it came up to my chest on a riser. I have the Legends Ultimate arcade on a 5-inch riser and it's unbelievably comfortable and the space for two players is great, with no wobble. That's all anyone needs.
They just look so poorly built to me. I opted for rebuilding a true vintage arcade cabinet and put a multi-game card in it, but everything else is truly vintage with well built buttons and controls. I can revert it back to original setup with only a little bit of detaching, and feel I have something that can last another 40 years. The 1up arcade cabinets look like the will fall apart after 6 months.
Bought a slightly overpriced TMNT A1up cab... Nostalgia? Was gonna go for MvC next but impossible to find. Resale market was so offensive, I got a 3/4 cab "fully loaded" instead and it prob cost twice the cost of the 2ndary market TMNT.
And standing right next to each other, it's like... Why does this TMNT A1up exist. Resold it for 5. And it comes w two games??? I'm out on A1up.
Here in England we can barely get them anyway and they are very expensive. I was very tempted with Dragons Lair as it looks amazing but again I’ve heard stories where seasoned gamers can’t finish the Timewarp and Space Ace games as joystick inputs aren’t good enough and also Dragons Lair apparently has audio sync issues.
But the Star Wars cabinet does look amazing but that’s not even for sale in England. Thanks for the info man. Appreciate it.
Hello sir, yes you are correct that Star Wars is the only A1up worth buying quality wise. It is hard to find used here as well
Wait Dragons Lair 2 and Space Ace wasnt playable? Glad I passed for nfl blitz.
You hit the nail in the head with these by saying its for a mancave or hobby room.
Ideal for someone like myself who just dabbles in retro gaming has a huge nostalgic connection to the Konami 2d sidescrollers of the 90s.
But to a retro gamer who is full into the hobby (like I am with transformers) they just won't meet the expectations.
Great video explaining your thoughts man.
great view they are cheap garbage. don't have replacement parts ready when they release cabs have to wait months for parts with my experience. good idea just not professional on business end
I’m glad that you did your due diligence and found that you no longer want to support Arcade1Up at its current state. I agree with 100% of what you said. Thankfully, you haven’t fully let it affect your passion for arcades and retro games. Looking forward to more content.
I just sold one this morning so I feel good and got a good price for it considering. Thanks for the comment 👍
I agree with everything you say. I own three first gen cabs and I paid $50 for two of them and $75 for the third. I was not about to pay $300 for a particle board box and tiny monitor but they do look nice as furniture that occasionally get played. I built a gaming PC and also built a digital pinball machine that get played way more than the 1ups. I did have to laugh when you called them toys though as to me, all these things are toys including the old original arcade cabinets I used to feed quarters to back in the late 70s and early 80s. All of this 'tech' are just toys. It just depends on how much you want to pay for those toys.
Bravo!!!! Finally, someone said what I’ve been thinking for so long… and I pose this question, if these machines are so great, then why do the majority of people end up modding them or getting rid of them? Just saying…
They are decor, nothing more
Yeah, great points...🤘🏼💯✔️
How many different ways do I need to play Pacman? Lol
That would make a great video 🤔
I love your brutel honesty and I agree with most of what you're saying. The problem I have with 1up as you said they keep making mistakes with their cab. You shouldn't have to mod something that you're paying $600+ defeats the purpose.
People mod them because the experience is lackluster out of the box. But I refuse to mod them because it's like putting s V12 in a Pinto. What's the point of having a big fast motor when the car itself is still a pos
@@show-me-retro Exactly. 😂
It's just managing expectations. If you are looking for a full blown arcade machine these aren't that. I have two. I enjoy them both and haven't had any issues (so far). I like the game mix, the size (don't want to be lugging some oversized machine around nor dedicate that much space to them), and just the nostalgic experience playing these games in an arcade like manner. For me, they look cool too. Both bought on sale so price was fair. Price point is a concern but what product nowadays isn't that true? Inflation is real and I'm sure A1Up isn't immune to its effects. Playability, quality, and customer service should always be something they try to improve. Fair reviews of their products with constructive criticism helps in my opinion so because of that I'd hate to see you walk away from reviewing A1Ups all together. People who have interest in nostalgic games will buy A1Ups because people like me appreciate their form and fit. I'd personally hate to see a company like A1Up just disappear. I'd rather see them grow and improve. They have brought a lot of these classics back into mainstream and for me, that's pretty cool.
You're absolutely right about expectations and I'm quite sure mine were too high but in the beginning I overlooked poor quality and size because of price but I can't anymore. Really appreciate the comment 👍
100% agree that at the price point, they are not worth it. But if you can get them cheap second hand on marketplace, totally worth it. They are cool and fun to have and fun to play at a certain price point.
I've always thought of the Arcade 1up as a toy for kids. But even then they are much more expensive than they ought to be and you are lucky if you get only a few games. For a minute I thought about picking one up on craigslist and making a cheap MAME out of it but the quality of the controls and the displays are sub-par and I would end up replacing everything anyway. I totally understand the nostalgia though and people wanting to have that arcade experience. I think these fill a void for people wanting that nostalgia but don't want to know or care about a full-mame cabinet. I think any gaming enthusiast who has played around with emulation and the potential will see these as a toy and nothing else.
Exactly, well said
Bought a cabinet from them for $500 and it never turned onn. They did little to nothing to help the situation. I mean they sent me a new bored but that didn’t fix the problem…. So now it just collects dust
Oh jeez, that's unacceptable
So $600 is pretty cheap for a full size arcade machine, but I'd consider getting a full size MK, or Big Blue or, Dynamo Cab, or really any cab, and then put in a MiSTer, and you have a SOLID Arcade machine, on FPGA, with authentic buttons, and you can still get all the car speakers, and lights, and you don't end up with some kind of compromise. But this is the fallacy that $600 is a bargain... if you have 1x 1up, and are thinking about a second, stop and think about what you really want. And understand that you get what you pay for.
I started watching your content after seeing you on @therexershow and really enjoy the great content. Sadly your frank assessment is shared by the silent majority within the arcade community as Arcade1UP have constantly failed to deliver and cut way too many corners... Big respect from Australia!
Thanks, much appreciated. Rexer is a good friend and tells it like it is. I have a lot of respect for that.
I have 5 of them, most I got discounted at Walmart, some pretty heavily discounted. For what they are I like them and will keep them but I'm not getting anymore. You can't even find them in most Walmarts around where I am anymore either. Also minus my Simpsons arcade1up all have had some kind of quality issues.
I got one and I love it. I have no desire to get another. I didn't pay $600. though. I would never pay that. It's definitely not perfect but I love it. Most cabs are $900.-$3k or more. If the cabs are $300. or less I expect corners to be cut. I don't want a real arcade machine. It's too much of a headache.
for the right price, they make sense imo now some of these 600 to 700-dollar ones, the build quality and everything about them should be better. they have improved from 1st gen but for what they are wanting now as far as the price has to be better all the way around to justify the price everyone at that price should be tall enough to not need a riser and be a "pro" version. NBA JAM I got for $150 so I mean if you can get them on a huge sale i say go for it otherwise its a pass
I heard Arcade1up this, arcade1up that, and then one day I went into a store, and walk up to a Mortal Kombat Arcade1up and try it. My thoughts were "This is it? This small screen? Smaller than my computer monitor?" So I buy a whole machine for one game with this small screen. And if I wanna play TMNT, I have to buy another Arcade1Up with the same tiny screen and set it right next to the other one? No thanks. I'll stick to my emulator and PC.
Bruv, a lot of what you mentioned I also saw a couple years ago. I was really determined to get a SF2 A1UP cabinet and mod it because I knew it was kinda crap. That wouldn’t fix the size but I could at least fix other things and add a PC for some more games.
Then I discovered the AtGames Legends Ultimate. Bought one of those and while it’s not perfect, I’m glad I didn’t get sucked in to a A1UP purchase. Don’t get me wrong, the LU isn’t perfect but I’m pretty happy with it and know it was a better purchase than the SF2 cabinet I wanted.
I think there’s a place for the A1UP machines, but it’s not in the home of an arcade enthusiast.
Arcade1Down 👎 hardware is trash, hardware fails, they don't fix software bugs... no thanks!
I agree with all you`ve said I think ........... and that`s why I never bought one a few years ago and instead built my own high quality PC powered arcade machines and now Pinball ones too. Having said that I have a good friend who has two 1ups and has modded them and even has PCs inside so that he can play whatever he likes plus I watch a lot of content about arcade and general game related content and so I know a lot about 1up without ever having bought one. I too have given them props in the past for regenerating interest in Arcade stuff in general . Point of note that for Arcade games a decent sized ips monitor running Mame on PC hardware with some serious CRT emulation (HLSL) is easily the best way to play these games short of playing an original machine ( or perhaps an FPGA version of a game )
Yeah... Those cabinets are just overpriced novelties. If I want to play old arcade games. I'll just emulate them.
the free cabs stopped coming is the real reason
Yup, you got me... the cat's out the bag
I'd never pay full price but for the heavily discounted prices I bought 2 for I don't regret it at all. Sounds like you suffered burnout.
Yep. They basically took something I enjoyed as a kid and bastardized it. Thanks for giving my thoughts a voice.
I agree 100%! Their pinball machines are a laggy joke. Thankfully there's a great modding community. But atgames scored home runs with the legends ultimate, and pinball cabinets.
LOL from day one, I thought these things look way to small, cheap and flimsy to anyone who really cares about arcades. I just thought, cool, if people are getting some value out of that, that's great arcade games are being kept alive in some form. But I just made my own, and it's nice and huge and has 4 players and a real CRT.
Agree with this. Though I do enjoy the partycades as playable decoration (just a few) as you said.
I was gonna get risers for mine but I can play them from my desk chair. They are too tiny for me and I’m 5’11… but sitting on my azzzz its cool fo’ me.
@7:03 you mention the gaming community turning on you. The mountain biking and kayaking community will turn on you in a second, too. Biggest bunch of a-holes you'd ever want to meet. I have no desire to ride, or paddle, with anyone like that. It's not like we're doing stuff that will have some catastrophic effect on the space time continuum. It's sad and pathetic that people have to take a fun hobby and turn it into something miserable and undesirable.
Now, I just enjoy my alone time out in the woods/water. Also, play games alone (not even with my wife! LOL)
These suck. People who resale them act like they’re worth their weight in gold.
I don't know what pdubs and rexor are but I don't think it's that big of a deal. You like their product at one point and then you don't anymore. I collected full size arcades in the early 2000s when it wasn't popular and moved with them and they're heavy beasts and I frankly love that arcade one up came around.... Even with the issues they're way less finicky than a "actual" vintage arcade. And they weigh a whole lot less. I can move them around by myself. They were wobbly until I screwed the risers into the arcade and put a little rubber feet on each of them. Plus I was able to sell all those old vintage arcades for way more than I originally bought them. It all depends on what you want. I never buy these things at retail price I always buy them when they're on clearance and every title I've wanted eventually gets clearanced out to 2 to 300 bucks
Agreed, never bought into all the hype! I ended building my own multicade in birch wood with real arcade parts.
Its like comparing a real gun with a toy gun. Not even the same thing...
I've never really understood why anyone in the U.S would buy 1UP's anyway, when the original Arcade Cabs are so reasonably priced in the U.S.
In the UK, Genuine Arcade Cabs cost more than double, some even several times what they cost in the U.S. making 1UP's more appealing I guess?
Arcade 1UP's are NOT genuine arcade Cab's. They are just glorified consoles with very nice artwork.
Dead on. I got the Big Blue when it came out, and was immediately disappointed. Crap controls, terrible sound, bad emulation. It had it all. I went down the modding rabbit hole and turned it into something worth playing, but I should have just bought a real cab from the start.
Yeah Tempest is the one I wanted... maybe TRON... the dollars for the cabinet build quality is just not there. I have X-arcade tank stick and a v pinball custom made and they will do just fine. Boo. $500 for a plug in play MS Pacman is crazy.
When you promise things that are on the box and don't work as such, that's a major problem with promising things weeks to months (if at all) later. Having to put quality parts in after the fact when you can get a quality pre-made cab or DIY for the cost just defeats the purpose. You can only put out the same games so much before people take notice along with the huge quality issues in regards to functionality. Great video man. This is also someone who has five of their games and I won't be buying any more from them for the aforementioned reasons and for taking advantage of people not realizing they're getting a full game with the last two titles. And a "pro" version for almost $1000 is nearing actual arcade game prices. Many will be out on those alone.
Well said. It will be interesting to see where 1up goes in the next few years... what kind of changes they make etc if any
Dude, I have only one! That was it for me. I bought the 8-1 PACMAN PLUS off QVC 3 years ago @ Christmas for my 5 year old that loves Pacman. It was around $500 bucks for that rare Pac Plus artwork cab. It has a lit marquee, plus a lit area under the cp, and a riser. He played it for awhile and then was totally bored with it. I have a Full size X-arcade machine with a true Wells Gardner CRT monitor in it. You can hookup a pc or just about any console to it! It has the famous TANKSTICK that has 2 full player layouts, plus the trackball. I have been into OG Xbox mods since 2016. I have many different builds and they work perfect on the X-arcade. The one Coinops 8 Massive set has over 9k Arcade & Console games to play through in one huge list! All u need is the correct adapter per a console U want to play! Multicade FULLSIZE is the way to go! These things are truly Toys and I agree the price is getting way over the top. I realize the X-arcade with CRT is now harder to find, but other companies are all over multicade builds and I have several people in PA alone that build Cabs for sell on Marketplace. A good Jamma (tons of multi boards) or even a Raspberry Pi build will keep u happy over a small toy.
I was never impressed these, went with the legands arcade cab and pinball table. Bought the astroids cab on clearance and boy did the og spinner suck.. added an upgrade from Amazon.. sold it later..
Damn right, there's an Atari fan on YT who has 6 of these dumb little toys, his latest buy was the Ridge Racer, a "bargain" at $400 (half price) I said "hey, for what you spent on 1Ups you could have 2 or 3 60-in-1 full-size multicades by now."
Little toys for little boys.
Nice perspective. We need more honesty.
Thanks brother
@@show-me-retro in a few years someone’s gonna wake up and realize how much they spent and it’s not authentic. Most of these games can been had on Xbox. Buy a cab from microcenter for 249 mod it and your still under price compared to a 1up.
@@kiodiekin For me it was always nostalgia driven but I guess my expectations were too high because I just couldn't do it anymore
@@show-me-retro I feel u. It’s tempting but after awhile it doesn’t add up. If it was high quality parts for 300 and no cs issues then it would have a point.
@@kiodiekin I think the problem is that everyone assumes theres only two ways of thinking though. Purists vs 1Up fans. But I own multiple original cabs and a few PC and pie multicades and still feel value in some of my 1Up purchases. Of course, I dont have many 1Ups and the ones I do are pretty solid like Star Wars and I get them on sale. But still, I think theres a happy medium and not just "original and multicades are always far superior than 1Up" cause in my opinion, theyre not always superior. I feel I can say that as someone who owns items in each genre and not just 1Up fanboys who never had a real cab or a multicade.
That pretty much sums up my feeling about these cabs. They're too small, poorly constructed, overpriced and generally feel like cheap imitations. Granted, most people don't have the 2-3k to drop into an authentic arcade cab but let's be honest. Most of these games are available on the Microsoft/Xbox and PSX store to play on your TV and if you want collector authenticity that won't break the bank, I highly recommend New Wave Toys 1/6 scale Replicade series. They produce retrocade arcade machines at 1/6 scale with high quality detail and materials faithful to the original for a reasonable price and won't take up an entire living space.
Play on your PC or Console for the convenience.
Admire small scale authenticity from afar for that nostalgia fix.
Nice and yes I returned the nice blue art deco marvel cade, personal thoughts it looks big but for two children not adults and not big adults, two player mini cade made no sense came with a 8" screen size of blu ray box and yeah first impressions were this feels janky and you like I didn't feel it was worth $229 I picked up for $175 was still not impressed was definitely for kids 6-up not adults was nice looking art though. I've seen the full size and always thought they were overpriced a bit undersized for the SFII should all be priced $299 and drop for $199 during holidays and that's all and other 1ups maybe 299-$399 no more.
Yeah, I have 4 a1u machines, and I've gotten all of them at a steep discount. I have real, full sized machines. I wouldn't recommend paying full price for these cabinets. So many 45-50 men acting like 4-5 years old children about stuff that's in the end just kids toys
You can never get rid of the CRT TV. I agree with you , I will go with a real arcade unit or my own build, the Mega Arcade is very expensive but looks very future proof. The problem with that is you can get High end gaming pc with a RTX 4090 for under 3000 dollars, the empty cabinet with all those extra is not 7000 thousand. you can buy the hard drive with all those games with the hyperspin for 300 dollars. So that price for the Mega is a no go but the knowledge of building one yourself just take some reading to do. I forgot , the real arcade cabinets are getting expensive now , a few years I could of gotten a Mortal Kombat Arcade in near mint for 1500 now there going for 5000. It just remind me of the crypto video card boom. Great Video.
Man cave or she shed, lol. Dude you are too much LOL.
Max Luv.
I just got 2 first gen 1up's for free. I look at it as a fun project that i can personalize and play with my kid. There's no way i'd pay full price for these things. And yes, even the riser these things come with are too short! I shouldn't have to build a riser to attach the original riser!
I dont have space for real arcades machines nor do I have the expertise to work on them. Arcade1up is really the only option. I don't mind modding as it's a hobby in itself.
Honest opinion. I bought a final fight for 200 bucks back in 2020 or 2021 and modded it through arcade mod up? I think was the company for about 400 bucks. It has a raspberry pie with about 1000 games. Lighted marquee and buttons. Honestly the machine has been pretty good with minimal use. For 600 bucks total I think it is a pretty good deal.
Arcade 1Up is built for the Walmart crowd, not the enthusiasts, and anyone reviewing them for enthusiasts saying "mod this mod that" are just ... wrong. This is why I built my own arcade machine that stands 6' tall with a 27" monitor and Sanwa sticks. In my opinion if you're buying an Arcade 1Up it's for your 8 year old and you should expect him to break it in under a year.
I bought all of mine when they dropped to around $200 a piece. They're just cheap toys for the kids to play on. I have two AtGames Ultimate machines that I play more. One with One SaUCE. I bought those on sale as well. I feel like I've gotten my money's worth at the cheaper price.
I ended up just buying a gen 1 street fighter for 280 new and putting a raspberry pi in mine. With the pi, hdmi converter and everything I bought I think it only costed around $400
This will scratch my itch until I buy a shell from another company like game room solutions in the future.
I stayed at a Virbo this summer that had an Arcade 1Up. I tried it out and was not impressed. Very cheap feeling buttons, the machines moved like crazy whenever I moved the joystick, the whole machine was too small. I love arcade games and grew up with an authentic Mario Bros. arcade machine in my basement for many years, but I'm perfectly fine playing them on my Nintendo Switch or via emulators on my PC. In fact, I'd be ok with a cabinet modded to play numerous titles. Real arcade cabinets I understand are not feasible for most people. They are too big, too bulky, too expensive and take too much time to maintain, especially as parts become harder and harder to find. But I'm fine playing arcade games on my Switch or PC.
I think it's ok if you don't have space for a full size cabinet or nostalgia for 1 particular game. If you have space for 2 or like more than one game. I see no reason to get one. I have no skills and built a full size cabinet over a couple weekends. it plays thousands of games I only have about 1200 in it. I still need to get side art/marquee done. Worst case scenario 250-300 bucks tops.
great video I just set all mine on fire 🤣🤣🤣 But seriously down to 3 sold 2 and just tossed 2 in trash and saved screens and converting one to one player and putting in rp4 with plenty of arcade games. New mortal kombat very disappointing with information about screen and info about mvc2 and and nfl blitz and tron sticks. So I hear you brother. Don't know why someone would get so wrapped up just making arcade 1up videos either🤣.
Granted I only was out of pocket 60 bucks and a 10 dollar speaker from 5 below. I can’t speak for the stand ups . But the nba jam countercade I got since it was cheap for the kid this Xmas . Since he living with his biological “father” at the moment. Im just hooking it up so he’ll see it when he comes in. So it’s in our dining room atm and me and his mother played it for a decent bit. If I come across more at this size for 120 or so for a game I would enjoy. I’d be willing to purchase. The full size 3/4 cabs. Man at those prices with 3 kids at times in the house and 2 dogs there just ain’t the space for it. Or feel that kind of expense is justifiable in most houses at this time.
So there’s a positive and a negative