Why Samurai Wore an Extra Obi Over Their Hakama

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  • @letsasksekisensei
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  • @WizardOfAtlantis
    @WizardOfAtlantis ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Awesome! Seki Sensei is an absolute boss. Someone who can walk the walk as well as talk the talk. This is a wonderful idea for a channel. I wish you all the success in the world with your endeavor. And...english subtitles for Seki Sensei material! what a joy :)

  • @brianfoley4328
    @brianfoley4328 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @rolandgdean
    @rolandgdean ปีที่แล้ว +45

    AMAZING HISTORY AND MARTIAL ARTS VIDEO!!! This made me think of the gun belts that developed in the mid 1800s in the American west. Originally, smaller guns were carried in holsters on the "pants belt" and LATER, the "gun belt" became its own item. It was worm BELOW the pants belt and the holster was often strung from the bottom edge of the wider gun belt (the Mexican loop or Buscadero style) which allowed easier drawing of longer and larger guns. They were made so that the gun could "ride" in the thigh close to the natural and relaxed position of the hand. This was also of benefit to riding on horses and just sitting down for a whiskey. The later addition of the "ammo feed" loops allowed for carrying of extra ammo. You could also hang a bowie knife from it as an extra weapon or tool.

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Very interesting! We didn’t know about that!

  • @TheCCBoi
    @TheCCBoi ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love these small details in Kobudo ryuahs - so many of them are lost in modern budo.

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Yes, I learned several things that were new to me.
    I see a parallel here to the American historical practice of having a separate gunbelt with attached holster whose movement is independent of the belt that holds your pants up. There is no comparable issue with extra weapons or avoiding injury in a fall of course, it is that a gunbelt can adjust for being seated in a saddle on a horse, walking, sitting in a chair or other postural changes.
    Honestly, I had not thought about this before even though I instinctively knew it.

  • @johnclarke7626
    @johnclarke7626 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So informative. It's nice to learn the historical reasons, which are usually very practical and not matters of style.

  • @josephtutton7154
    @josephtutton7154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent! Thank you! Perfectly logical. I was wondering about this, because drawing katana from inner obi very hard! Thanks again!

  • @frankiebey1279
    @frankiebey1279 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Domo Arigato Gosaimas . This video is amazing.

  • @starsea3313
    @starsea3313 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am very interested in online lessons. I'd also be willing to visit the home dojo in Japan to train.

    • @TheCCBoi
      @TheCCBoi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same, I'm planning on it in 2024! Can't wait for online classes.

  • @JackShen
    @JackShen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it's the little details like this that make all the difference. very cool

  • @Larper64
    @Larper64 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like how you said there are no strict rules about tying it and how whatever works is best, this makes more sense for a battle situation to me as while regimented procedures work for sports and discipline, it can often hinder the individual combatant and thus serves little purpose on a battlefield where individual combat may occur.

  • @shotokankaratedo6155
    @shotokankaratedo6155 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My question was answered today! Osu!

  • @Correct-correctself
    @Correct-correctself ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone else feel bad for the human punching bag
    UNDERATED

  • @akarivn
    @akarivn ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the video. Honestly, all the explanations are not new for me. However, it is always great to have something I knew, or guessed, confirmed by a master. Have a great day!

  • @AndersonM.
    @AndersonM. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tsukada is also a Bujinkan (ninjutsu) practitioner, right?

  • @stringchz
    @stringchz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Shogo and Seki Sensei for sharing all this knowledge!

  • @Peekingduck
    @Peekingduck ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "All used outer obi"... that is highly doubtful.
    Maybe it is true for Asayama Ichden ryu" but there is enough documentation available saying it depends on the school and the time period.

    • @Peekingduck
      @Peekingduck ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaketheasianguy3307 Musashi lived in the Edo era which was rather peaceful. Dress-codes were very different through out Japanese history (feel free researching other pictures as well). Different schools had different preferences and clothing. You could if you want take a look at drawings made during the Sengoku-jidai. There is loads of material out there.
      "Samurai" rarely lived in the actual cities as the risk of trouble that came with it was way to high. Rules differed from domain to domain and had much to do with the rank of said samurai.

  • @Avallachgrey
    @Avallachgrey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. Makes me want to find a school to learn. Hard to do when you are a trucker though. lol

  • @andresvillegas464
    @andresvillegas464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Realy nice techniques, it would be good to see how to fight whit a kyu gunto
    Thanks for those videoss.....

  • @nickjones6646
    @nickjones6646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been wondering about this since I saw Seki Sensei's first video. Also, I'm pretty skinny and boney so when I wear the katana under the inner obi, doing saya biki causes the saya to grind against my hip bone (ouch!) I really hope you can come to America to teach sometime, I would definitely be there especially since my sensei had to quit teaching due to a knee injury.

  • @baffofraffo
    @baffofraffo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video. I am curious to know where it used to wear the Tantō, in the front or in the back?

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Tanto are generally held just like the Wakizashi, or hidden inside the kimono!

  • @ShirouneWF
    @ShirouneWF ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learned something new

  • @tek512
    @tek512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It pleases me to know there are still schools out there teaching combat forms instead of only kata or showy, wasteful movements.

  • @monicab204
    @monicab204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! I did not know this about the inner and outer obi.

  • @senseierictollett4830
    @senseierictollett4830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do not understand this question it's very much understood in kubudo and makes complete sense 🙏

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    didn't know about this extra obi, thanks seki sensei.

  • @thomasjames7568
    @thomasjames7568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s with the green scythe on the staff rack? At first I thought it was a hockey stick.
    4:27

  • @japanhd2520
    @japanhd2520 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is the Katana, Hakama and sashi been wore, when the samurai are equipped with Do and Tare? I've did Kendo for some time and I always been wondering about that.

  • @louismcmahon88
    @louismcmahon88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was taught to wear it on the outside also seen schools that did not

  • @geometrygamer6726
    @geometrygamer6726 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice video

  • @kevinleukhardt9560
    @kevinleukhardt9560 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello Shogo-San and Seki Sensei, Thanks so very much for this instruction on the Obi. I feel 100 times more confident to wear and practice drawing and sheathing my katana sword now. I love how you both make things simple & correct in the instructional videos. I will get to work this weekend and practice more.

  • @堀高士-p5y
    @堀高士-p5y ปีที่แล้ว +2

    外帯の結び方は一本縛りだったのですね、結び方が良く分かりました。
    ありがとうございました。

  • @roycehuepers4325
    @roycehuepers4325 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This makes sense actually. Today we wear a belt to hold up our pants, but then soldiers and those in the shooting/tactical community have a larger battle belt. Interestingly, I did experiments with mine and you can put a katana/tachi on it in such a way that resembles the way samurai held theirs.

  • @gregorykelly8000
    @gregorykelly8000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you masters.

  • @taclas1
    @taclas1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah so! Obi-wan Kenobi???!!!

  • @charleskikuchi200
    @charleskikuchi200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100,000 let’s go!!

  • @sergeylemaev8134
    @sergeylemaev8134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there are unarming fighting in Asayama Ichiden ryu? Ju-jutsu or taijutsu? Is Sensei can show some techniques?

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we will be making videos about that too! We hope you can look forward to it✨

  • @VictorLonmo
    @VictorLonmo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am always impressed with how fluid Seki Sensei's movements are when drawing the katana. I was a bit surprised by it however using the second, outer belt does explain it somewhat.
    Quick Question for Shogo: Is it common in iaido to hold the katana from an outer obi (as described in the video) or would most styles of iaido hold the katana from the inner obi?

    • @VictorLonmo
      @VictorLonmo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaketheasianguy3307 Thanks Jake

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for leaving a comment! Most ryuha keep their katana in their inner obi!

  • @adamhoppe1168
    @adamhoppe1168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arigato, keirei o7

  • @Vespuchian
    @Vespuchian ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to compliment Seki Sensei's presentation/teaching style, it's very clear and easy to follow even for first-time viewers. There's no ambiguity in the motions or on the explanations.
    Full credit to Shogo and crew (assuming it's not just him) for choosing good camera angles to show the motions as well.

  • @gamithemighty5932
    @gamithemighty5932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kind of makes the Idea of Having More than One Belt On a Fantasy Character Make a LOT more Sense Now Doesnt it? Very Cool. I am Actually Really Glad to Know about this, Becuase this Was Something I never thought of, ty very Much for sharing ^^

  • @jwoltremari
    @jwoltremari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @madeleineg2049
    @madeleineg2049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the video. There are so many interesting details and practical reasons for everything.
    I do have a question: Does Kobudo include strategies for battlefields or war too?

  • @potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420
    @potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an odd request/idea. I was just watching the video you did with your friend on the Zaitochi Flash cut and I was wondering what Seki Sensei would have to say about it, and if he might have as much fun trying it out as you seemed to.

  • @mikearnold3878
    @mikearnold3878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your content. Please keep it up.

  • @Tasselhoff88
    @Tasselhoff88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same in viking re-enactment fighting. I use separate belts for pretty much all items I'm carrying. Makes tying everything snug much easier.

  • @JapaneseJourney
    @JapaneseJourney ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Seki Sensei and team! Very insightful!

  • @Ivanofkoshinkaisokanryu
    @Ivanofkoshinkaisokanryu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing 💥💥 so interesting

  • @larochejaquelein82
    @larochejaquelein82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this interesting video ! If i'm wearing a jinbaori during a training, should i fut the soto obi over the jinbaori or the jinbaori over the soto obi ? Thank you for your answer !
    Greetings from France 🇫🇷 ☺️

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Either way can work, but as you can see in the picture of Miyamoto Musashi, he is wearing his outer obi over his haori!

    • @larochejaquelein82
      @larochejaquelein82 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@letsasksekisensei thank you so much sensei 😁

  • @mountainwolf1
    @mountainwolf1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for sharing this system with me i've already started adopting the techniques in my training very grateful for sharing your wisdom🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

  • @gamithemighty5932
    @gamithemighty5932 ปีที่แล้ว

    White For the beginners and Black for the Experienced?
    Mere rank? Really?
    Well, I think it's more than just that.
    It really guides a More Inexperienced User
    So they can See what they are Doing More.
    as well as their instructors.
    Its harder to see what you are doing with a Black Belt
    than it is See What your are doing with a White belt. ^ ^
    that way if a Student is Making a Mistake
    a More experienced Instructor Can Intervene faster
    and Avoid More Potential accidents
    But Hey that is Just a theory.

  • @thomasturner4253
    @thomasturner4253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @alx3290
    @alx3290 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, thank you for this,and thanks to seki sensei for sharing; I didn't know.about the outer obi.. also, I would like .. how to tie a inner large obi?and the meaning of each side? if there are?
    plus I'm pretty interrest of wakizashi and short swords and swordless techniques. this channel is amazing

  • @DanteRaweater
    @DanteRaweater 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always wondered why in some video games and anime they used rope as an obi for katana. Is this based on anything in particular or is it purely esthetics?

  • @Sonless_Vergil
    @Sonless_Vergil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I so want to see video about Nodachi. I saw it in For Honor. Kensei fighting with it. Seki Sensei, can you make a video about this blade? Or maybe recommend other videos about it

  • @vincenzomarino3876
    @vincenzomarino3876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for these videos! Keep them coming!

  • @Theorof
    @Theorof ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like I would not be locked using the inner obi as I use large sayabiki quite often from the inner obi, but I can definitely see that this would be more free, and I wish we could use it in the ryuha that I train in.

    • @Theorof
      @Theorof ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaketheasianguy3307 I know what it's like. I train in a couple of different styles. I don't need help understanding. Thanks.

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Theorof ...Then there is no need to be so curt or offer empty thanks, is there? He didn't imply any ignorance on your part.

    • @Theorof
      @Theorof ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdamOwenBrowning Yes, he did. When you consider the facts, 1. I was replying to the OP (Shogo) 2. I was relating my personal experience and opinion. 3. My comment was not a question. All of this to say, I was not inviting any answer or explanation. I don't care about any opinion of my opinion, especially one that implies that I missed something or that I don't understand the subject that I am communicating.

  • @kingfish4575
    @kingfish4575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tying the outer obi reminded me of tying my kenpo belts into taco shapes...

  • @funmandk6858
    @funmandk6858 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever i try this and i draw the katana, the saya will fall through the outer obi? Almost as if the obi is not tight enough to hold the saya but trust me the obi is very tight around the waist? Please help :)

  • @fredcolon2341
    @fredcolon2341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wearing a second belt or slash was use in different lands, from warriors to pirates for carrying swords, knifes and pistols to the early 1800's

  • @jimanHK
    @jimanHK ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant. Thank you for sharing.

  • @xeeng10
    @xeeng10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:36 I’m so impressed with this man’s movement. It’s so freakin cool. ❤

  • @slimsammyone
    @slimsammyone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a great honor to learn from you. Thank you!

  • @thechosenone729
    @thechosenone729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe i have missed the information im not entirely sure but what about guards they had to wear their katanas like this too or they where wearing them normal prepared for fight ?

  • @CynthiaJFinnegan
    @CynthiaJFinnegan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so glad I subscribed! I'm learning new things, which is great!

  • @inthekitchenwithcheflionel307
    @inthekitchenwithcheflionel307 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So is a inner obi even necessary if you are not wearing a wakazaki?

  • @abeldasilva9368
    @abeldasilva9368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing information glad I watched this.

  • @larrywilliamson2384
    @larrywilliamson2384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing. 🙏

  • @mikecardwell5793
    @mikecardwell5793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always. I have a question for Seki Sensei about other weapons they use in their style. I see a kama gets used a lot, but I was wondering if they ever use a Kusarigame or not?

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Asayama Ichiden Ryu we don’t have Kusari-gama, but Seki sensei himself is a master of it in a different ryuha!

    • @mikecardwell5793
      @mikecardwell5793 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@letsasksekisensei oh that is great! Thank you for responding. Which ryuha is it? I would love to come study under Seki Sensei someday. I don't want to bother him, but could I ask some questions about the kusari-gama related to history and use?

  • @Moondog13
    @Moondog13 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can carry Sai or jutte. Also.

  • @Xeranius
    @Xeranius ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this lesson 🙇🏻

  • @KateJohn2013England
    @KateJohn2013England ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant as always 👍 Thank you 🙏
    Question, are the wide Obis for formal dress wear only?
    Thank you for all this wonderful knowledge 🙏 Take care. Stay safe 🙏
    Kate and John.

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for leaving a comment!
      How wide are you talking about? Kaku-obi can be used both for the inner obi, and for kimono!

    • @KateJohn2013England
      @KateJohn2013England ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for replying 🙏 About 2 inches, like the one you wear on you channel. My wife and I love your channel, we just love this Master more. Sorry.
      Thanks for all you do, and bringing this great master to us in English. We are trying to learn Japanese but it's difficult 😫 Hope your family is well 🙏
      Kate and John (England)

  • @ウジコ大好き人間
    @ウジコ大好き人間 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF THIS INTRO MUSIC IS FIIIIIIIIIRE
    音楽がちですげえ

  • @replaytharonin
    @replaytharonin ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing ✊🏾

  • @irontiki551
    @irontiki551 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seki Sensei reminds me a lot of my foil/saber fencing master. Which is to say it seems there's a lot that can be learned and plenty of fun to be had in so doing. He's similarly dignified but the enthusiasm just can't help but shine on through in the teaching of the art.

  • @TheRealMrCods
    @TheRealMrCods ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These short videos are great.

  • @Book-bz8ns
    @Book-bz8ns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this level of detail!

  • @XLRG1
    @XLRG1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how is the katana locked in place?

    • @XLRG1
      @XLRG1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaketheasianguy3307 no i meant how its not falling down daring you movement or doing something or such?

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not locked, but it's not loose either so it'll fall out that easily!

  • @josephjohnson3097
    @josephjohnson3097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of how the obi and swords are worn with armor.

  • @nickegbg
    @nickegbg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw obi in naturo

  • @ronisworld2916
    @ronisworld2916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really love this series of yours!

  • @外道懲罰処刑執行部大
    @外道懲罰処刑執行部大 ปีที่แล้ว

    ついにこの人が来たか

  • @Nick-cs5yc
    @Nick-cs5yc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😁😁😁

  • @Gwalothel
    @Gwalothel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That‘s very interesting. I thought you carry the katana in the inner obi because it‘s more stable ro wear and it‘s also supported by the hakama sash, so I wonder how you keep the the sheath from falling out when it‘s in the outer obi.

    • @payon1559
      @payon1559 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a line(sageo) attached to the sheath(Saya) that is binded to the obi. The different Styles of binding influence how fast you can detach the Saya from the obi to also use the Saya as an second weapon.

  • @johngamma7490
    @johngamma7490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:32

  • @legendzero6755
    @legendzero6755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @Druid_Ignacy
    @Druid_Ignacy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video :) You've said that modern iaido train kata only. Doesn`t Asayama Kobudo train kata only too?

    • @Druid_Ignacy
      @Druid_Ignacy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaketheasianguy3307 Oh they do! Thank you for telling me :) Once I also saw guys in kendo-like equipment, but heavier? At least heavier weapons, and they seemed to do more techniques. I wasn't Niten Institute nor police kendo thou, it was something else.

    • @letsasksekisensei
      @letsasksekisensei  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Asayama Ichiden Ryu trains Kata, sparring, mat cutting, etc., and all the Kata are done with two or more people to prove it’s effectiveness!

  • @ketsan
    @ketsan ปีที่แล้ว

    In Aikido, traditionally, mudansha wear white obi and yudansha wear black. Apparently this is because Aikido adopted Judo's system before Judoka decided that each mudansha grade should have its own colour.

  • @GadreelAdvocat
    @GadreelAdvocat ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful explanation. Thank you.

  • @Ask4This
    @Ask4This ปีที่แล้ว

    the movement is so natural and fluid, it is truly masterful control of self.

  • @Keithphotorama
    @Keithphotorama ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this very informative video.