I don't think the Mariners would resist a Portland expansion team; in fact, I think they'd welcome a future rivalry. I also think it's more realistic they expand from 32 teams to 36 since 34 teams would require an odd number of teams in both leagues (17). If it was up to me, they'd go to four divisions (NL East, NL West, AL East, AL West) with a 32-team expansion and keep that for a later expansion to 36. As for locations, I think Nashville and Salt Lake City seem like the leading candidates at this point, and I'd also include either Oakland or Las Vegas, depending on whether or not the As relocation succeeds. I'd also want to see the Montreal Expos resurrected, and if MLB can settle the likely issues with the Yankees' and Mets' territorial rights, then they should bring a team back to Brooklyn as well. For the 36th team, I'd suggest Portland, but ideally not the current proposal since it would require demolishing a nice golf course. Each division would probably look like this: NL East Montreal New York Mets Brooklyn Philadelphia Pittsburgh Cincinnati Washington Atlanta Miami NL West Nashville Milwaukee Chicago Cubs St. Louis Colorado Arizona San Diego Los Angeles Dodgers San Francisco AL East Toronto Boston New York Yankees Baltimore Tampa Bay Cleveland Detroit Chicago White Sox Minnesota AL West Kansas City Texas Houston Salt Lake City/Utah Las Vegas Oakland Los Angeles Angels Portland Seattle
32 teams seems to small for a country with no promotion/relegation in sports and with a population of 335M+ plus 1 Canadian team for 38+ Million. How about 36 teams with 6 divisions of 36. My picks are Nashville, Charlotte, Austin, Portland or Vancouver, Salt Lake City, and bringing back the Expos!
If MLB were rewarding 2 expansion teams today, they would be in Nashville and Salt Lake City. Manfred said 2 cities one on each coast. Both Nashville and SLC have infrastructure sites, money from billionaire funders wanting to own a team and state/city funds & land. I don’t see Austin getting a team (unless the money benefits the other owners’ pockets) in the upcoming expansion. Too close to Houston’s media market and MLB wants to add a team somewhat closer to either Seattle or Denver and fill a void in the south.
Is it though? I used to live in Montreal and would go to games when I was a kid. I haven’t heard anything concrete about an ownership group or where a stadium would go. The city has to fork over nearly 1 billion just to fix the roof at Olympic Stadium still.
I know Manfred said to have one team in the west and one in the east, but the west has been ignored for too long, the existing teams that are farthest from other teams are the Mariners and Rockies, I think they need to put a team in SLC and either Portland or Vancouver BC
I don't know about the Carolinas getting a team because there are a LOT of New Yorkers and the NYC tri state area, who either own summer houses, or have moved down there. So there's a ton of transplants from up north, who will attend MLB games, but they would support their teams from up north. So they'll be many people rooting against a Carolina team.
Depends on what you think is a “huge” population. Utah holds 80% of its population along the Wasatch Front (all within less than a 45 min drive to SLC) which accounts for almost 2.7 Million people. I think MLB wants to expand into new markets over going to already existing areas. This is why I don’t think the Expos will come back or a third team in TX for a while.
I'll give my opinion in order that I think they'll get chosen. Also, if Montreal were to get a team, I think it'll be through relocation. The following teams are just strictly expansion cities. 1 - Nashville, 2 - Salt Lake City, 3 - San Antonio, 4 - Portland, 5 - Oklahoma City, 6 - Charlotte. I also think they'll announce adding two at a time and have a preliminary plan for when they have those teams chosen. I think we'll hear about expansion fairly soon, it wouldn't surprise me if it was announced in 2024. Not the teams being announced, but a public statements asking for prospecting teams to submit bids. So the first bit of expansion would take place around the 2028 season. By 2026, they'll announce another round and those two teams will be selected and their first season would be the 2030 season. Then it would take another 5-10 years for the next round, so by 2040ish. I also think the following cities could eventually be in the running 10-15 years down the line. Indianapolis, Vancouver, San Juan, Mexico City, New Orleans, Omaha and/or Albuquerque. Just my 'pie in sky' viewpoints!!
Neither San Antonio, Oklahoma City or Charlotte has a formal bid like Nashville and SLC do. Unless they put one together in the near future, they probably aren't happening.
I would sooner see the Rays move to Nashville than add 2 more teams. It doesn't seem likely that they'll get a new ballpark in that part of Florida anytime soon. Move the struggling teams before expanding again. I'm not sure that the Marlins are going to last another 10 seasons in South Florida, either. Over-expansion isn't the answer.
Prior to re-establishing TB’s land agreement, MLB was in the process of scheduling a split of games played at MTL & TB. Land for the site is currently being developed in MTL.
Portland would have to fix the crime issue. Boise Idaho is less than 800,000 people in the Metro population. Zero chance. Nashville, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, San Antonio. Oklahoma City would be interesting.
Rumor also with expansion they may bring back the 4 division format and may do Regional Realignment for the divisions . I can't wait to see how everything ends up after they expand and i don't see that happening tell the A's & Rays are in new Stadiums looks like 2030 to 2035 .
I hope they restore the four division format, but they shouldn't get rid of the NL and AL. If it was up to me (which I know it isn't), then we'd just have NL East, NL West, AL East and AL West with eight teams each.
Oakland stays in Sacramento permanently...Nashville and Salt Lake get the first round, and Charlotte and Montreal get the second round. I know the league wants balance, but you have to put the teams where the people are.
Lifelong Giants fan from Sacramento. I love the Giants as I spent my tween to teen years with them during their World Series winning years. That said, if Sacramento got it's own team, I'd have to rep them. It's been my dream for Sac to have another Big league team besides the Kings.
Years ago Vancouver had built a group for trying to get an expansion team. They had a huge advocate in their mayor and some billionaire funders (they usually don’t say who those people are) but I haven’t heard anything about it in a while. San Juan and any Mexican team will never happen. San Juan won’t have the money to help pay for infrastructure. I love San Juan but the economy won’t be suitable right now. Mexico would seem like an obvious choice (Monterey, maybe) but the US dollar disparities, rough economy, government uncertainties and tv market (like Canada) won’t help revenue for the other teams for nationally televised games. Montreal has backers and some funders but the local government isn’t all on board in helping to fund for a new park. Also, like Mexico & Toronto, currency and tv market shares
On March 13, 2025, Montreal Baseball Group and a joint venture between Larry H. Miller Sports & Entertainment Group and Smith Entertainment Group will each pay an expansion fee of $2.2 billion to award 2 MLB franchises to Montreal and Salt Lake City for the 2028 MLB season, so this is what the 2028 MLB realignment will look like: AL East Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox New York Yankees Toronto Blue Jays AL North Chicago White Sox Cleveland Guardians Detroit Tigers Minnesota Twins AL South Houston Astros Kansas City Royals Tampa Bay Rays Texas Rangers AL West Anaheim Angels Las Vegas Athletics Seattle Mariners Utah Bighorns NL East Montreal Expos New York Mets Philadelphia Phillies Washington Nationals NL North Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Milwaukee Brewers Pittsburgh Pirates NL South Arizona Diamondbacks Atlanta Braves Miami Marlins St. Louis Cardinals NL West Colorado Rockies Los Angeles Dodgers San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants
Austin / San Antonio are not large enough , wealthy enough and that area has to have a dome ..more $$$$ to build and tax the inhabitants. I still see more $ in Canada than Texas .Toronto ( a 2nd team) , Montreal or Vancouver.
My 3 expansions 2025-29 Nashville and Portland Oregon 2030-39 San Antonio, and Charlotte 2045-50 Buffalo or Montreal , and Either Sacramento or San Jose AL gets Portland, Charlotte and California team NL gets Nashville, San Antonio and Buffalo or Montreal Boise Idaho no way Salt Lake city is an interesting idea. If the A's play there and get support. Maybe instead of Buffalo or Montreal.
The San Antonio Sheriffs The Nashville 6-Stringers The Charlotte Monarchs The Salt Lake Hornets The Idaho Snakes The Portland Jackals The Sacramento Gold Strikers
Boise zero chance even though it's growing metro population of 800,000. Charlotte/Austin/Montreal make the most sense. Kansas also makes zero sense where you put that team? Most of that states small Population is in the Royals market.
Boise isn’t a top city to get a team but it has been in discussion due to money groups trying to get traction to build infrastructure for an expansion team. Same with Vancouver.
Exactly right. There's no city in Kansas (not even Wichita) that is big enough to support a Big Four team. Boise isn't big enough either, nor do I think they will be anytime soon.
Boise makes no sense. Way too small. Also your point that Canada having pandemic policies ruins their relationship with MLB is out of reality too. I'm not saying a new team will or won't come to Canada, but a 2020 emergency policy didn't burn long-term bridges with the league.
Idaho will NEVER host a major league of any kind. Boise is probably the most isolated major city in the mainland US. And it's a stretch to call it major currently. Major leagues seem to be on the trend of de-saturating in the largest population centers so I think no on Texas or Florida as well.
I'm curious how much non-research you did for this video. A third team in Texas or Florida is not happening this go round. The Mormons have decided to launder tithe money in sports instead of hoarding it, so they will get a team in Utah. Nashville is pretty much guaranteed with the ownership group and public money on the table. Why stop at just the new cities? That's not even the most interesting part of a potential MLB expansion.
Dude, listen when yoy start talking about cities supporting other teams..you need to include Major League Soccer teams such as cities like Nashville Tenn, Charlotte NC and Salt Lake City Utah that have well supported MLS franchises playibg to well over 90% capacities. Conw on you shoukd kniw and acknowledge this. If you don't like the sport I understand..but don't ignore the elephant in the room because it is there and it is getting more popular by the moment .
They have been saying soccer will become nationally popular since Pele played for NY in the 60s. Still waiting. There are a few cities but that's it. No even women's soccer very much.
The Carolina hurricanes play in Raleigh, not Charlotte
You are correct, my bad.
Raleigh is also making its own pitch to get a team.
Yeah
I don't think the Mariners would resist a Portland expansion team; in fact, I think they'd welcome a future rivalry. I also think it's more realistic they expand from 32 teams to 36 since 34 teams would require an odd number of teams in both leagues (17). If it was up to me, they'd go to four divisions (NL East, NL West, AL East, AL West) with a 32-team expansion and keep that for a later expansion to 36. As for locations, I think Nashville and Salt Lake City seem like the leading candidates at this point, and I'd also include either Oakland or Las Vegas, depending on whether or not the As relocation succeeds. I'd also want to see the Montreal Expos resurrected, and if MLB can settle the likely issues with the Yankees' and Mets' territorial rights, then they should bring a team back to Brooklyn as well. For the 36th team, I'd suggest Portland, but ideally not the current proposal since it would require demolishing a nice golf course. Each division would probably look like this:
NL East
Montreal
New York Mets
Brooklyn
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Washington
Atlanta
Miami
NL West
Nashville
Milwaukee
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis
Colorado
Arizona
San Diego
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Francisco
AL East
Toronto
Boston
New York Yankees
Baltimore
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Detroit
Chicago White Sox
Minnesota
AL West
Kansas City
Texas
Houston
Salt Lake City/Utah
Las Vegas
Oakland
Los Angeles Angels
Portland
Seattle
32 teams seems to small for a country with no promotion/relegation in sports and with a population of 335M+ plus 1 Canadian team for 38+ Million. How about 36 teams with 6 divisions of 36. My picks are Nashville, Charlotte, Austin, Portland or Vancouver, Salt Lake City, and bringing back the Expos!
Forgot Indianapolis.
If MLB were rewarding 2 expansion teams today, they would be in Nashville and Salt Lake City.
Manfred said 2 cities one on each coast. Both Nashville and SLC have infrastructure sites, money from billionaire funders wanting to own a team and state/city funds & land.
I don’t see Austin getting a team (unless the money benefits the other owners’ pockets) in the upcoming expansion. Too close to Houston’s media market and MLB wants to add a team somewhat closer to either Seattle or Denver and fill a void in the south.
Portland
No way a MLB expansion team comes to Hawaii. They can't even get a stadium made for their main college football team!
@@Brent-Tanabe Where did I mention Hawaii in my comment?? London has a better shot at an MLB team (zero) than Hawaii.
@lovesgucci1 posted wrong place. Was mentioned in the video & was replying in general.
@@Brent-Tanabe Haha I was so confused!
Montreal is a front runner… that’s kinda general knowledge… surprised you missed it altogether…
Is it though? I used to live in Montreal and would go to games when I was a kid. I haven’t heard anything concrete about an ownership group or where a stadium would go. The city has to fork over nearly 1 billion just to fix the roof at Olympic Stadium still.
I thought they were out of it because they're currently renovating another stadium and can't put the money forward for a new one.
I doubt anyone wants to play in a French city.
@@dvferyance It's not a French city; it's a French Canadian city (i.e. a French-speaking city in Canada).
@@hotwax9376 French as far as French speaking.
Montreal, Vancouver, New England (National League), San Jose, Charlotte, New Orleans,
Portland needs to get a baseball teams. It is a bigger market than a lot of suggested teams
Portland has people and businesses leaving due to crime. Don't think you want to expand into that mess.
I know Manfred said to have one team in the west and one in the east, but the west has been ignored for too long, the existing teams that are farthest from other teams are the Mariners and Rockies, I think they need to put a team in SLC and either Portland or Vancouver BC
I don't know about the Carolinas getting a team because there are a LOT of New Yorkers and the NYC tri state area, who either own summer houses, or have moved down there. So there's a ton of transplants from up north, who will attend MLB games, but they would support their teams from up north. So they'll be many people rooting against a Carolina team.
Depends on what you think is a “huge” population. Utah holds 80% of its population along the Wasatch Front (all within less than a 45 min drive to SLC) which accounts for almost 2.7 Million people.
I think MLB wants to expand into new markets over going to already existing areas. This is why I don’t think the Expos will come back or a third team in TX for a while.
Very interesting! I guess only time will tell. Thanks for the comment!
I think it’s Nashville and one of Oakland, SLC or Portland. Right now SLC has land and state financing.
I'll give my opinion in order that I think they'll get chosen. Also, if Montreal were to get a team, I think it'll be through relocation. The following teams are just strictly expansion cities. 1 - Nashville, 2 - Salt Lake City, 3 - San Antonio, 4 - Portland, 5 - Oklahoma City, 6 - Charlotte. I also think they'll announce adding two at a time and have a preliminary plan for when they have those teams chosen. I think we'll hear about expansion fairly soon, it wouldn't surprise me if it was announced in 2024. Not the teams being announced, but a public statements asking for prospecting teams to submit bids. So the first bit of expansion would take place around the 2028 season. By 2026, they'll announce another round and those two teams will be selected and their first season would be the 2030 season. Then it would take another 5-10 years for the next round, so by 2040ish.
I also think the following cities could eventually be in the running 10-15 years down the line. Indianapolis, Vancouver, San Juan, Mexico City, New Orleans, Omaha and/or Albuquerque.
Just my 'pie in sky' viewpoints!!
Neither San Antonio, Oklahoma City or Charlotte has a formal bid like Nashville and SLC do. Unless they put one together in the near future, they probably aren't happening.
I think they should modify the name to the Tennessee Tri-Stars or something like that while it should still honer the Nergo League Team.
I would sooner see the Rays move to Nashville than add 2 more teams. It doesn't seem likely that they'll get a new ballpark in that part of Florida anytime soon. Move the struggling teams before expanding again. I'm not sure that the Marlins are going to last another 10 seasons in South Florida, either. Over-expansion isn't the answer.
Prior to re-establishing TB’s land agreement, MLB was in the process of scheduling a split of games played at MTL & TB. Land for the site is currently being developed in MTL.
PORTLAND NEEDS A TEAMM
If MLB added 2 expansion teams today, I would choose Nashville and, MontreaL.
Portland would have to fix the crime issue. Boise Idaho is less than 800,000 people in the Metro population. Zero chance.
Nashville, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, San Antonio. Oklahoma City would be interesting.
Rumor also with expansion they may bring back the 4 division format and may do Regional Realignment for the divisions . I can't wait to see how everything ends up after they expand and i don't see that happening tell the A's & Rays are in new Stadiums looks like 2030 to 2035 .
I hope they restore the four division format, but they shouldn't get rid of the NL and AL. If it was up to me (which I know it isn't), then we'd just have NL East, NL West, AL East and AL West with eight teams each.
Oakland stays in Sacramento permanently...Nashville and Salt Lake get the first round, and Charlotte and Montreal get the second round. I know the league wants balance, but you have to put the teams where the people are.
Lifelong Giants fan from Sacramento. I love the Giants as I spent my tween to teen years with them during their World Series winning years. That said, if Sacramento got it's own team, I'd have to rep them. It's been my dream for Sac to have another Big league team besides the Kings.
The A's should move to Sacramento
I can’t see how Seattle would complain about a team in Portland. It would give them a natural rival
Yeah, one homeless camp against the other!
@@warrenash5370white people love the h
Portland and Montreal.
Boise? I don’t think so.
What are your thoughts on expansion into Canada or Latin America (Vancouver, Montreal, San Juan)
Years ago Vancouver had built a group for trying to get an expansion team. They had a huge advocate in their mayor and some billionaire funders (they usually don’t say who those people are) but I haven’t heard anything about it in a while.
San Juan and any Mexican team will never happen. San Juan won’t have the money to help pay for infrastructure. I love San Juan but the economy won’t be suitable right now.
Mexico would seem like an obvious choice (Monterey, maybe) but the US dollar disparities, rough economy, government uncertainties and tv market (like Canada) won’t help revenue for the other teams for nationally televised games.
Montreal has backers and some funders but the local government isn’t all on board in helping to fund for a new park. Also, like Mexico & Toronto, currency and tv market shares
On March 13, 2025, Montreal Baseball Group and a joint venture between Larry H. Miller Sports & Entertainment Group and Smith Entertainment Group will each pay an expansion fee of $2.2 billion to award 2 MLB franchises to Montreal and Salt Lake City for the 2028 MLB season, so this is what the 2028 MLB realignment will look like:
AL East
Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Toronto Blue Jays
AL North
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Guardians
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins
AL South
Houston Astros
Kansas City Royals
Tampa Bay Rays
Texas Rangers
AL West
Anaheim Angels
Las Vegas Athletics
Seattle Mariners
Utah Bighorns
NL East
Montreal Expos
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Washington Nationals
NL North
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Milwaukee Brewers
Pittsburgh Pirates
NL South
Arizona Diamondbacks
Atlanta Braves
Miami Marlins
St. Louis Cardinals
NL West
Colorado Rockies
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
Only a matter of When,not
If Major League Baseball returns to Montreal ❤❤❤
Montreal should and i think is on the radar for expansion
Austin / San Antonio are not large enough , wealthy enough and that area has to have a dome ..more $$$$ to build and tax the inhabitants. I still see more $ in Canada than Texas .Toronto ( a 2nd team) , Montreal or Vancouver.
They have 5 million population combined. What are you taling about?
My 3 expansions
2025-29 Nashville and Portland Oregon
2030-39 San Antonio, and Charlotte
2045-50 Buffalo or Montreal , and
Either Sacramento or San Jose
AL gets Portland, Charlotte and California team
NL gets Nashville, San Antonio and Buffalo or Montreal
Boise Idaho no way
Salt Lake city is an interesting idea. If the A's play there and get support. Maybe instead of Buffalo or Montreal.
The San Antonio Sheriffs
The Nashville 6-Stringers
The Charlotte Monarchs
The Salt Lake Hornets
The Idaho Snakes
The Portland Jackals
The Sacramento Gold Strikers
Great team names!
Nashville already has a team name in mind. The Stars.
How about the Utah Stingers in MLB
Portland Mavericks
Utah Devils
I think Indianapolis should get a team
No Portland?
More likely Portland over both Boise and Salt Lake.
Salt Lake is more likely than Portland at this point. But Portland is way more likely than Boise at least for now.
Hurricanes play in Raleigh, North Carolina
Did you mean to drop the Louisville Bats to begin with?
What about NYC? They used to have 3 teams. Now they have teams in the Bronx & Queens. Don't you think Brooklyn/Staten Island could support a team?
NO!
There are already too many teams in the Northeast and a lot of large gaps in the West.
NYC doesnt need three teams. One team is enough for a city. The Yankees, dodgers, and giants was way too much for NY.
ATTENTION MLB AND NHL PLEASE BRING A TEAM TO THE QUEEN CITY!
In 30 to 40 years, Albuquerque, Fargo, Monterrey, Mexico, Anchorage, and Buffalo could get an MLB expansion team.
I assume this is an attempt at humor.
Here are some possible nicknames for expansion teams: The Anchorage Snowballs, Fargo Farouts, Mexico City Dreamers...Anyone have ideas?
@@ES-hr6vg There's nothing humorous about Buffalo getting an MLB expansion team. I'm talking up to 40 years from now.
@@louabbott7631 How about the Anchorage Elks, Monterrey Vaqueros, and Fargo Natives?
Interesting that you skip Utah in the 33 and 34 team discussion
All this is nothing but a pipe dream.
And people in hell want ice water!
You're right you have no idea!
No love for Orlando
Too close to Tampa.
MLB needs to move the Rays to Orlando. They will never draw enough fans in St Pete.
Orlando is too close to Tampa. Either the marlins, rays, or some other franchise can relocate there or they have to get lucky.
Boise zero chance even though it's growing metro population of 800,000. Charlotte/Austin/Montreal make the most sense. Kansas also makes zero sense where you put that team? Most of that states small Population is in the Royals market.
Boise isn’t a top city to get a team but it has been in discussion due to money groups trying to get traction to build infrastructure for an expansion team. Same with Vancouver.
Exactly right. There's no city in Kansas (not even Wichita) that is big enough to support a Big Four team. Boise isn't big enough either, nor do I think they will be anytime soon.
Might be a "world" league by then (33, 34 and beyond).
Mlb needs more south teams
They need to change the outdated territorial rights so these other cities can get teams
Picking Boise before Salt Lake is insane
How did Canada burn bridges with MLB?
I would vote for Boise, ID. One of those states in the northwest needs one. East of Seattle
Back to Oakland? Brooklyn?
What about Mexico City?
Nashville Stars Out west somewhere
Might as well have promotion relegation
Boise makes no sense. Way too small.
Also your point that Canada having pandemic policies ruins their relationship with MLB is out of reality too. I'm not saying a new team will or won't come to Canada, but a 2020 emergency policy didn't burn long-term bridges with the league.
Real Salt Lake has always had excellent attendance in MLS as well.
No Portland, OR????
Did Angels go thru nuclear war?
Idaho will NEVER host a major league of any kind. Boise is probably the most isolated major city in the mainland US. And it's a stretch to call it major currently. Major leagues seem to be on the trend of de-saturating in the largest population centers so I think no on Texas or Florida as well.
There is no “south” division man
I said that because there could be with expansion. There used to not be a Central division, either.
Since we're just making argyement, here's one. You don't really have any idea what your talking about.
Once the A’s go to Vegas , It’s going to be Nashville and Montreal , anything else is an absolute dream.
Austin/sa no ownshop group.......portland has a ownership group.....marnier want anothet team near them.
Keep teh A's in Oakland. Don't encourage Sacramento.
I'm curious how much non-research you did for this video. A third team in Texas or Florida is not happening this go round. The Mormons have decided to launder tithe money in sports instead of hoarding it, so they will get a team in Utah. Nashville is pretty much guaranteed with the ownership group and public money on the table. Why stop at just the new cities? That's not even the most interesting part of a potential MLB expansion.
Baseball needs to contract, not expand.
Mexico city
Dude, listen when yoy start talking about cities supporting other teams..you need to include Major League Soccer teams such as cities like Nashville Tenn, Charlotte NC and Salt Lake City Utah that have well supported MLS franchises playibg to well over 90% capacities.
Conw on you shoukd kniw and acknowledge this. If you don't like the sport I understand..but don't ignore the elephant in the room because it is there and it is getting more popular by the moment
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Portland
They have been saying soccer will become nationally popular since Pele played for NY in the 60s. Still waiting. There are a few cities but that's it. No even women's soccer very much.
The Mexican League has already claimed every city in the United States as a possible expansion franchise for their league due "population" growth.
Nashville
Portland
San Antonio
Charlotte
Not going to happen. 👎👎
No expansion. Just move both florida teams and maybe Colorado.
MLB sucks.