What I love and hate about my trailer - Urban Logging Trailer Build Pt 1
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I cover most of the highlights in this video. There's a ton of small stuff that I skipped over (like those rear marker lights being so easy to smash off) but a lot of the other details will come up during the build. If you haven't noticed, I'm super excited for this build! It's going to be so nice to have a tool that is exactly right for my needs!
It appeared you did not mind going inside when you were done talking.
I can Appreciate your love of sawing up timber thanks I'm subscriber
If you are doing the fabrication yourself, check out fireball tools. He is a TH-camr and has a line of welding squares that a bunch of other TH-camrs have been using and they seem to make fabricating a whole lot easier.
@@realfoggy I believe that Matt has a couple of them already...and yeah, they are very nice looking. I first saw them on Alec Steel's channel when he had Mr. Fireball himself over for a visit.
@@gregmislick1117 That's where I saw them first too. I also saw them on Abom79 and a few others that I can't recall at the moment. Did you happen to see his new line of tools? He made a video demonstrating them.
I have no interest in hauling logs or making a fat ass size trailer, yet I watched every second of your video. I find these so pleasing and entertaining to watch, thanks Matt.
i have to watch for school
Matt, I love that you are building this trailer yourself. I know many excellent welders that I trust with my life, but to buy a ready made trailer is a worrisome thing for me and having one custom built is MONSTER MONEY.. I have a few suggestions. 1) Especially with the new dually, as it is not so nimble. Put a hitch on the front of the truck. It will help both at your house, but also when you have tight places to get in and load at other places. 2) If I were building this, I think I'd be looking at beveled sides. Maybe 70*s over the wheels. With only 1 log the trailer will be quite easy on the load, but with 2 or 3 the wedge sides will keep the load pushing to the center of the trailer. That will really help balance the load and keep it where you put it. 3) If yo make a taller arch and fasten the pivots close to the back of the rear wheels, you will probably only need to make 1 pick per log. As long as you stay under 13' 6" you can go under most bridges. Keeping it under 11" total should even get you under any telephone wires or power wires at people's homes. 4) TAG EYES.. Weld on MANY TAG EYES... You cannot have too many places to chain or strap things down on a trailer. Love the Dually!!!!
something that will help you with getting into tight areas is a receiver on the front of your truck. Then instead of backing in you simply drive the trailer into the yard.
can't wait. love your attitude about everything
I don't have any comments on the trialer build (good luck with it!) - but I will say watching your neighbors in the background dig their way out of the snow I absolutely don't miss the weather up north. Greetings from Florida!
I knew a one armed man back in the 80’s who built a big arch with hydraulic cylinders to power the boom angle. Big winch on top. He could literally load that 5 ton truck to the stops alone with a pair of big tongs. Amazing, Bill Hickey was a genuine genius.
Great work! Thanks for taking the time to make, film, edit and share.
Enjoying the build Matt. Thanks for showing us the utility of the log arch. Appreciate your enthusiasm. You have enough experience with the old trailer to build one best suited to your needs. Weld on.
I can’t wait to start urban logging when I retire from the military in a few years. Glad you’ll have it all figured out for me by then. I just gotta get back into welding and buy all your plans!
Nice ADR at 17:55! Looking forward to seeing the new trailer build!
You know what they say, it’s always something. Sounds like a well thought out plan!
Good job explaining the new and old trailer
I like that you have done all your homework Matt.
So many people just hook up and go and have no idea whether or not they are towing safely.
Looking forward to this build.
Well thought out; love seeing folks build or renovate on their own. Can't wait for the trailer series~!
Thank you!
I can't stop watching your videos. Your an inspiration Sir.
thank you!
Thanks for sharing your advice and experience! The jack is normally on the passenger side so if you have trouble on a busy road you aren't out in the traffic working on your rig. Your channel is SUPER!
Look forward to your trailer build. Thanks for your videos!
Thank you Mat...consistent and viewable.
Thanks Ken!
I was in ordnance/military service 22yrs and we had a specialty trailer very similar to yours BUT the arch mounted on a slide that ran on a very heavy built “ 18”knee wall “ so you could change the fulcrum point and ball hitch weight .
You rock and your vibe is awesome!!
Very well planed out! You've put a great deal of thought into the new trailer! Good Luck
thanks!
Looking forward to following along Matt! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
thanks fred!
Awesome. I laughed, because I've been talking to a lot of tree crews lately, and need to get a trailer so I won't keep losing out on some of these amazing logs. I've been eyeing a trailer just like the one you have, and contemplating the same type of rig (with some slight differences of course).
The trailer looks awesome.
Good stuff, Matt! I’m looking forward to the build!
Thanks Donny!
For visibility when backing a small trailer, I added CB antennas to both rear corners. I have used both 48" and the 102". By simply drilling and tapping the proper hole size, (one can also just weld on the proper nut), the antenna can be put on or removed as needed. Now your rear corners are visible, so you know where the trailer is tracking. Great video loaded with good information. Happy Holidays to All
Hi Matthew nice vlog love the snow.❄️ I’m glad you showed where you live for some reason I had you out in the sticks ( country side ) now I understand why you have maxed your outside buildings hope not to cold 🥶 hope you and your family have a nice thanksgiving if you have one 😀😀👍
That's a lot of thinking... I typically don't know what to expect for breakfast! You Rock Matt!
You sure know how to back up with that truck/trailer. I’ve watched many of your videos Matt, ever since David Picciuto suggested your channel in his videos. Many good wishes to you and your family for the new year. Love seeing the kids grow too.
Thanks for being here :)
Hi Mr. C.
Great video!
Looks awesome and fun to do!
As usual, a great video Matt. Looking forward to the upcoming build series. When finished you can use the trailer twirler for a neighborhood pig roast. Thanks for sharing. Have a good day.
Tongue jack access should be on the right (passenger) side for safety reasons. Don’t want to operate it from the driver (traffic) side if you’re stopped on the road-side and have your posterior hanging out in traffic. Same as doing all your tie downs on the passenger side so they can be accessed safely without any risks of traffic interferences. We just had this very issue here in Minnesota when a driver stopped along side the road to check his load and he was hit by a passing car. Stay safe when you’re out on the road. Love your videos. You are a true “Renaissance Man”!
Rich Dunn given the size of the flares on that truck and Matt’s modest posterior, I reckon he’ll be right...
Matt: This was outstanding! I am close to considering just such a trailer for myself, and you answered so many questions. I will be checking out a custom build, as I have about 6 reputable companies in my area who do this. I cannot wait to see the progress on this. Honestly, I think of you everyday as I drive around and see all of these beautiful logs lying around people's yards or ads on FB or Craigslist. Thanks for all that you do to inspire all of us!
Thanks John!!
Great video Matt! Thank you for sharing it with us.👌👍😎JP
Have fun and be safe!
You have done your homework and you are doing one hell of a good job building it looking forward to see the finished trailer
Thanks!
This is a great idea. I have to rig up something like for a bunch of logs/trees on my property that have fallen in all the recent storms. I usually cut what I can and let nature do the rest. Now I see this mini stonehenge contraption, too cool.
Great video!
Thank you so very much and greetings from Portugal.
This is gonna be awesome.
Fun and interesting video Matt.
Matt's Master class on Urban Log moving. Nothing is left to the imagination. Moral of the story is, dream it up and do it. As always Matthew is happy to share his grand adventure from the Great White North. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Larry!
Woooooo, excited!
Put a receiver hitch on the front of your truck and it will be a lot easier to get into a tight place. I live in Louisiana and we do it all the time for backing up boats and small utility trailers.
thanks for the tip about the lug nut count, I didn't know that. Looking forward to you getting a log that comes close to maxing out the new trailer.
I did not know either!
I do love watching these bigger builds. Great seeing how you assess the need, and design the solution.
I've built a few trailers in my time, smaller as I am in the UK, but I agree with the roller thing. I put a roller on the back of my log trailer thinking it would help. First log was fine, but often it also rested on the roller and meant the second log didn't benefit from it so it might as well not be there. Also had part loaded logs rolling back off when re setting the rigging.
The biggest issue was the number of times I have climbed on to the trailer deck and stood on the roller by accident and was sent flying! By the third time I welded the roller solid.
My log trailer had an extending tongue so I could carry longer lighter logs but still have a short 8' bed.
I don't move logs anymore but my current small trailer also extends, but at the back end going from 6'6" to 8'2" mainly so that everything still fits on my drive. We have a little less space here in the UK. ;-)
I didn't think of that but I can see myself getting thrown by a roller. That's exactly my luck. thanks!
Alfred Chow Maker of Things
I think if I were to build a trailer for this purpose I would put a 12 inch diameter 1/4 round (i.e 6” x 6” over a piece of 6” angle iron) on the rear corner to act as a pseudo roller.
Love it nice job, good luck.
Thanks!
Matt, one way to avoid drop axles is to add a "beaver tail" ramp sloped up the back of the deck of the trailer. The log arch/gantry would be hinged to a lower point closer to the ground and the slope, being a metal deck, would slide the logs up while the deck itself would remain higher and the axle/spring hangars would remain "stock" instead of getting the ht change from the drop axle profile?
rotisserie is a good idea for this size fab- reduces the weld position issues resulting in higher quality welds with less effort.
I would love to be able to build something like this. Even the apparatus you build to flip the trailer. Pretty damn cool!
Thanks!!
Matt, if you could please, include a strategy as to how you designed and built your "trailer rotisserie". Very cool. Also, while I have you her, why did you select 6"channel for the cross members instead of tubing, and are they also 1/4"?
The rotisserie was designed around the scraps I had to construct it. The biggest factor was the height as it needed to be at least as tall and half the trailer’s width. The cross members on the trailer are 4” channel with a web thickness of .2”. There’s a bit of weight saving with those being channel and not tube
Very smart the way you set this up nice work
Thanks!
A lot of thought has gone into your planning. Do add some gussets to tongue for extra rigidity, will give you some more area for hold down points for other tie downs?
By the way? What color are you planning on? Color of dually would be amazing. Good luck.
Excited to see this build. One feature idea for the new trailer is to automatically engage the electric trailer brakes when you turn on the battery for the winch. That should also put less stress on the new rear supports.
Matt, thank you for the Saw Stop plug!
I work at a place that sells that saw. (Or,
all their saws.) Can you imagine a saw
company that actually shows pictures
of cut and nicked fingers, on the OUTSIDE
of the box? LOVE IT!
Guys, if you're in the Phoenix AZ area, look
up Timber Woodworking, in Mesa.
(Sorry for the plug, Matt. But, these guys
ROCK!)
steve
Excellent editing and very interesting video.
thank you!
@@mcremona You're welcome.
This is awesome man, just like the band saw, I wish one day a get to build a trailer too... So excited for this video series... 🤙🏻
Thanks!!
New trailer build! Woo hoo!
Matt, love this stuff man! You are awesome for sharing all this knowledge!
Thanks!
So well presented! You have such an ability to communicate your ideas, plans and actions on your plans. I’m not in your business, but I do use thicker slabs, since I turn larger vessels for both functional and art objects. I came to know about you through the WoodWhisperer. I really enjoy all your videos so far. I wish you great success with this build. I really appreciate your “can-do” attitude and your skills. You also have such a keen artistic sense. You are quite an amazing package sir. Thanks for sharing you experiences through your videos! Be safe and keep smiling. Good luck from Texas y’all.
Thank you so much Dave!
I like that Dually.
You are THE coolest!
New truck? Wow, very nice.
Matthew - thanks for the video - really enjoyed your talk though about design, cost ect. I have to say you must have some really understanding neighbours. If I attempted that here in the UK my house would be surrounded by Council Officials.
Roscoe Wilder
Yes you are not wrong, mum and dad had a VW LT camper and a small classic 1972 caravan on their drive, new guy moves in and the place was swarming with council officials within a week! Hmm planning? use? rates? Fortunately we had 20 yr old photos of the caravan in the same place on the drive and in Spain and France and Germany which = sod off its a touring caravan and it is stored behind the building line! I was just overhauling the running gear getting it ready to use be used behind my classic Triumph when all this lockdown kicked in. 😢😢
Matt a couple of suggestions for you to think about have a hitch put on the front might be handy for manoeuvring around and a split charge system to charge the battery as you drive it around or fit the battery to the truck then a hook up much like a commercial trailer
Love your video there always easy to watch with out crazy music playing one question how do you get on with your neighbour with your mill going etc
Regards
Steve
UK London
Thanks! We get on quite well
Let the build begin. When better than winter.Lol
Matt, a small motor and a old truck axle could make your trailer very maneuverable, saw a retired fellows wood splitter it was huge, he added a hydraulic motor to the axle. Wasn't fast maybe a foot per second....thought I'd give you an idea since you're building from scratch. Love the videos keep up the good work.
In addition, building something is fun and rewarding in and of itself
Matt you've come a long way, gained a bunch of experience and confidence. As with your mill this is well thought out for urban logging. Nice to have more than one vehicle. Been following on Instagram and this makes it cohesive. Was this in your plans when you were chainsawing logs?
Good luck with the build, have you considered having the axles moveable forward and back to balance the trailer
I did that with a trailer once it gets tiring to move the axels ended up leaving them in one spot and shifting the load. (trailer brake wiring is a challenge as well)
Quick idea. Where the deck and the ramp meet. Increase the gap eough to accommodate a pipe welded flush to each plane. Ramp and non roller bullnose roller?👍Can't wait for the build.
My neighbor has a vehicle / ag tractor hauling trailer that the axle tandems are a frame with springs n all just big enough to hold both axles and springs. That frame has steel rollers ( much like engine hoist rollers) that ride in the frame of the trailer. With pins pulled on both sides you lock the trailer brakes and back up. The weight of the rear will let the back deck go to the ground and the tong is hinged so the deck can pivot. I am thinking of building my own , but have the track able to slide more to the rear if I need tong weight but have a notch for regular pulling as well. He doesn't have a log arch , but we have self loaded many logs with it. Usually a piece of plywood works to get the log over the rear of the trailer. With this kinda trailer you wouldn't need rear jacks because the rear is on the ground while loading.
*Excellent tutorial, Matthew. - Would it be wise for the arch build to have an outside width equal to the wheel width? How could that make things more deft when dealing with broad branched timber? What other capabilities would arise from that design width?*
I like that truck!
1000% agree with every word you said. would like to add 6000# axles are very very rare so if you have 8 lugs you are almost certain to have 7000# or bigger.
Large and obnoxiously shaped logs, I like that description!
Just wanted to wish you and your family a Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas.
thank you!
You are the best!!!!
It seems that a recessed roller would be nice. Mounting it from the back side and not the outside, only exposing a slight bit of the round. This would allow a smooth transition when needed but there would be no way that anything could catch on it.
My thoughts exactly put a break system on it with a gear and spring latch system 4 one way rolling no worries about it allowing rollback just like a hand winch
Thanks for making this video. I may have missed it, will you be reusing your arch on the new trailer?
no, it's too small. Thanks!
You just started welding with this project? Impressive
That’s amazing what you can do in the build of a custom trailer , thanks for sharing !!!👏🇺🇸👍 some one stole my 12 by 6 foot trailer out of my parking lot on forth of July !! It was a international 1500 pound weight . Good luck 👍Robert Patrene from Canonsburg pa 15317
I started watching this backwards! The whole time I was wondering if you were going to buy a semi to pull this 10'000 lb. empty trailer. I hope the dually I see is what you will use. I have not seen dump trailers built this heavy! I guess too much is better than not enough though! lol
We have a 6'x10' Dump Trailer and now I am thinking of adding an arch and winch to the trailer
The rear door frame has rusted out and needs to be rebuilt anyway
So a new Door and Lifting arc are an interesting idea
I might even look into using Hydraulic Cylinders instead of a winch since it already has the Hydraulics for lifting the Bed
Thanks
Ken in Florida
Do it Matthew and move the jack. CM in Louisiana
Consider a push pull conveyor belt, belly dump system.
I'm having a trailer built with that system and a knuckle boom on tongue!!! 22' long, tandem duelly wheels.
Check out the ant trailer.
might also want to add a ball to the front of the small truck for extra maneuverability when
using the trailer as a crane or in tight spots.
Good idea. Easier to see when maneuvering than when backing up.
The new trailer design is sounding good. You could slope the back foot of the deck like a car hauler and enclose the roller at the apex.
I prefer to just have a low deck and not have an extra obstacle. The tail is also not really usable deck space so it adds unnecessary length. Thanks!
The distance from tong is also a safety factor, If every the wire or mechanism break, that extra length might add another safety factor. Awesome video.
7:00 snatch block!
I could see a dovetail on the end of the trailer being really useful for your application. Not sure how that would effect the arch though.
Justin Ramer
Is that what we call a beaver tail, slope down at the back?
I've been watching your instagram videos on this build, can't wait to see it, but for now, I think I spent more time looking at that massive RAM truck. We've only just got them over here in Aus but they are way too expensive.
They’re not very cheap over here either. I went used which helped but it’s still crazy how much a truck costs
@@mcremona So much towing ability though! That's great, keep up the excellent content. :)
Will the old trailer be going into the Matt Cremona Museum?
Good explanation of why you are building a new trailer. Yes you can have it done by custom shop.But then you would not have the satisfaction for having done it yourself, and knowing how it was all done. Plus you cost would be higher. The rotisserie is not something a home builder will make to build their trailer nice touch, and yes it will make welding a lot easier, some thing I will also do when I build my Trailer in 2020 after all the white stuff is off the ground. Merry Christmas to you and your Family.
Thanks Paul!
Has anyone mentioned putting a hitch on the front of your trucks ? Great videos
Would there be any benefit to makin
the rear end of the trailer deck from pipe so as to provide a smooth edge to drag the log over?
You are a jack of all trades
Nice truck dude
Thanks!
@@mcremona your welcome ive got one mines a 12 though and she's taken a few dings
And a new dually pick up? Noice
Great idea, how high can you make the arch? My 12' dump trailer is 12' by 6'6" wide inner box. Your idea, I could mount hinge outside box, at a 14' arch height. I would most likely attach hinge point, where it will allow tailgate to open and be hooked . So about 12" from end of trailer.