quote Garry Kasparov: " - Chess isn´t about finding best moves, it´s about winning, losing and about individuals." Confusing the audience who might be thinking that this man was worldchampion for 15 years and he says it´s not about finding best moves? Phantastic point of view."
the top players are at top of chess not only because of their talents but also strong personality traits in patience discipline , maintaining calm under stress etc. its a very psychological game!
In the 1970s and 1980s I played Kings Gambit every chance I could. No locals knew the opening so it gave me a great advantage even though it is a weak opening. You could never do that today.
So lemme get this straight… I get into chess, and I’m supposed to juggle work, social life, marriage and possibly kids, all while finding time to play as a low rank amateur. And if somehow I have talent and become a top rank, I’m supposed to juggle all the above plus training for a specific opponent, stamina for 7+ hour games, while dealing with reporters, paparazzi, and backstabbing opponents??? I’m good as a spectator. And I’m making a prayer for the chess obsessed. My lord, how on earth do they find peace of mind? Ruthless on the ol’ noodle
Plus you'll be traveling to tournaments constantly -living out of cheap hotels hoping to get into the prize money places so you can afford the ticket to the next one - if you want to turn pro. Read 'The Racket' by Connor Niland - Ireland's No.1 tennis player - that's life for 99% of all professional sportspeople-it's tough
Life is full of choices and you do what you can handle and don't do what you can't handle. I believe Kasparov's divorce and he didn't see much of his daughter was because chess was his priority.
Chess is part of social life for many chess enthusiasts. If you juggle marriage, kids, work and going out with friends - you wont suddenly become a top rank, so nothing to worry about 😉 Just like all other aspects of life, you need dedication to reach the top.
Chess is decidedly an obsession-enducing activity. It's essentially the real world embodiment of Scanners (1981 Horror/SciFi). And the toll it takes on players' mental health...at the highest levels...is well-documented. But even for club players, it is a heavy (often unhealthy) grind.
Gotta love the apt (and absurd) comparisons between chess and motorcycle racing! Chess should indeed become an Olympic event...and should be part of the USA school curriculum from k through 12. Chess is indeed a vehicle for teaching and cultivating good sportsmanship, mental agility, focus, stamina, concentration, perseverance and the capacity to make more objective fact based decisions in life. We have a long way to grow.
Well done documentary. The motorcycle comparisons were dumb, and I don't buy the notion that many players try to "psych out" their opponents. Many parts resonate, such as their descriptions of how players try to control their nerves. I always enjoy David Howell's lighthearted personality. All in all, very well done.
Gary Kasparov calls it psychological warfare. I will take Gary's word over yours, no offense. Player's definitely try to psych each other out. At the highest level the game is a combination of execution and mental fortitude. If someone has a weak mental defense they are as hindered as if they had a weak tactical defense. This is a very common belief in high level chess. Howell is a legend. a brief edit - despite his controversial personality a great example of a player who has mastered "psyching out" his opponents is Hans Niemann. He purposefully creates chaos leading up to matches and has said this on multiple occasions. To be clear I am not really a fan of Hans but his rise in the last two years has been fun to watch.
@@Space_Ache I was in one of those motorway cafes once, you know the type with the red and white chequered vinyl tablecloths. Opposite me was this Russian guy who looked familiar - i later realised it must have been Gary Kasparov, the give-away being that when I asked him to pass the salt it took him nearly five minutes.....
A good documentary on the psychology of the players. As a player and lover of chess I strongly relate to the pain of losing, even at my low level. To lose affords the opportunity to learn and hopefully to avoid repeating the same mistake(s) in the the next game.
Oh boy. Anyone who doesn't know about Derek Redmond, I suggest looking up his 400m in Barcelona 1992. Its quite a race. If it doesn't fire you up I don't know what will.
In our days is mostly about chess engines and memorising....in old days chess was more about intuition your capabilities to outsmart your opponent without reading chess books and magazines.
38:24 - WOW… Bring back this genuine Staunton set, Jaques of London style! Instead of the sad "carbon copy" of classic Staunton they use at Ding-Gukesh with trash knights. Please 🙏🏻
Because there wouldn’t otherwise be any women competing at the highest levels. The only way to have high-profile women chess players is for them to constitute their own category.
It's not a shame. Chess have a very small audience compared to other mainstream sports. Small audience = small prize money. Was the same for darts 20 years ago. Now the audience has been growing a lot, so the prize money.
@@propagandacritic5511 The problem is that to enjoy watching chess competitions on TV or internet, you need quite some knowledge about the game and having played it a lot. I like playing chess but I have zero interest watching chess competitions. A good counter exemple is snooker, It's a sport that has a quite wide audience and most of them don't even play. Rules and understanding the game is a little tricky (not as hard as understanding chess), but once you got it you're hooked for life and watching snooker competitions on TV is fascinating.
I think players of this caliber (Carlson etc.), should make the kind of money as an average football player anyway. I mean, most of them devote every hour, from a very young age to honing their skills. It doesn't make sense.
It's very interesting in parts, but also terribly fact-checked .. I mean for example (circa 50:00) Magnus is hardly the poster child for streaming chess, or monetizing chess on Twitch or TH-cam, or "banter blitz." And putting that as an example of how he is a "disruptor" ??
So if what is said in the video is true, that nice guys are losers, what does it then mean to be a chessmaster at it´s highest level? To be mean and deceitful? It could sound like that when they also say that they´ve moved on from believing that it´s better to be a fair loser than a vulgar winner.
That part was interesting. And yes, controversial at least. (And VERY important to the topic of aspiring chess players : clearly environment matters -- good practice, good training. But how much does "attitude" / beliefs (or "mindset") matter?
@3:00 I have to TOTALLY disagree with Kasparov nonsensical statement.... It's ALL about finding the right/BEST move. EVERYTHING else is a FAR AWAY SECOND PLACE...J/S
I like chess, but I'm whole-heartedly disinterested 11 minutes in. Bad commentary and conjecture. A horrible comparison with motorcycles. It's like when Charlie Rose got all creepy with Magnus in that interview. Maybe I'm turning it off before it gets good, but a man can only submit himself to so much cringe before he turns away.
Thumbs up, but if you want cringe then go see after game press conferences of Ding-Gukesh. I came here instead, it’s only 75min and I found it a well informed doc on the psychology of the game : ) peace ✌🏻
Some of these talking heads talk such rubbish. 'carlsen us a bad loser and the best time to play him is after he has won'. The man won 125 games in a row! I get that this documentary is a sales pitch for a number of things (including that ugly hotel I guess) but they are just making stuff up.
The guy who is responsible for the sound in this film needs to retire from filmmaking. It is clearly not his calling. Why would you play loud music while people are speaking?
Chess is so unhealthy compared to other sports. They sit still all day. no exercise. stressed out. A table tennis player at least move his body. or other sports. I was elite level Karate competitor and glad I at least got to move around while doing what I love. I play chess now for fun yes, but its while walking on my treadmill. No intention to actually study the game.
Being a chessplayer doesnt exclude living a healthy life. Being a top chessplayer usually includes eating healthy and lots of exercise. If you are not healthy, and sit still all day, stressed out, you wont go far in chess.
Good amateur endurance athletes are burning well over 1000 calories per hour, so absolutely no relation to the much lower energy expended playing chess.
Sapolsky and other researchers have recorded Grandmasters burning 6000 calories in a single day. I don’t think your average athlete is performing for 6 hours straight, do you?
It’s not just about the total calories burned but about the type of exhaustion involved. In a 4 to 6-hour game, a top-level chess player might perform around 10,000 intense calculations, which places an enormous strain on their cognitive resources. While they may burn less overall energy than an endurance athlete (which is debatable), the brain's exhaustion from sustained high-level mental effort can be as debilitating as the physical fatigue an athlete experiences. The nature of the strain is different, but it's no less demanding. Think of it like comparing an electric vehicle and a smartphone. An EV might use its battery to drive hundreds of miles, while a smartphone only performs calculations and uses far less total energy. But after a day of intensive use, the smartphone's battery can be fully drained, just like a chess player’s brain after hours of intense mental effort. The brain, like the phone, isn't limited by total energy expenditure but by the specific strain of the task.
@@charliekowittmusic Amateur events where finishing in under 10 hours is considered very good: Any Ironman triathlon, Leadville 100 mountain bike race, Unbound Gravel 200 bike race, Alternatieve Elfstedentocht speedskating.
quote Garry Kasparov: " - Chess isn´t about finding best moves, it´s about winning, losing and about individuals." Confusing the audience who might be thinking that this man was worldchampion for 15 years and he says it´s not about finding best moves? Phantastic point of view."
Chess is a good analogy to life. Not making bad moves and holding it together.
Totally disagree.
This is the FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 in case anybody is wondering.
I have my doubts , I believe it’s chess. Not cheese tasting competition
Thank you. I'd been teasing myself trying to work it out. Karjakin's attendance got me closest.
Thank you. The 2023 copyright at the end threw me off.
the top players are at top of chess not only because of their talents but also strong personality traits in patience discipline , maintaining calm under stress etc. its a very psychological game!
I was runner up at my local library's connect four tournament
You was light work.
Ngl, I laughed pretty good at this.
In the 1970s and 1980s I played Kings Gambit every chance I could. No locals knew the opening so it gave me a great advantage even though it is a weak opening. You could never do that today.
It's not weak. It's just not the best. Playable for sure. I enjoy playing against it as white since I'm strong against it.
Holy shit! Where did this documentary come from?!
From Documentary-land
Sigmund Freud's butt hole.
i know!!
From the mind of Sheldon Cooper of The Big Bang Theory!! Where else??
ChatGPT.
So lemme get this straight… I get into chess, and I’m supposed to juggle work, social life, marriage and possibly kids, all while finding time to play as a low rank amateur. And if somehow I have talent and become a top rank, I’m supposed to juggle all the above plus training for a specific opponent, stamina for 7+ hour games, while dealing with reporters, paparazzi, and backstabbing opponents???
I’m good as a spectator. And I’m making a prayer for the chess obsessed. My lord, how on earth do they find peace of mind? Ruthless on the ol’ noodle
Any sport in a high competitive level is exactly like this. What did you expect?
Plus you'll be traveling to tournaments constantly -living out of cheap hotels hoping to get into the prize money places so you can afford the ticket to the next one - if you want to turn pro. Read 'The Racket' by Connor Niland - Ireland's No.1 tennis player - that's life for 99% of all professional sportspeople-it's tough
Life is full of choices and you do what you can handle and don't do what you can't handle. I believe Kasparov's divorce and he didn't see much of his daughter was because chess was his priority.
Chess is part of social life for many chess enthusiasts. If you juggle marriage, kids, work and going out with friends - you wont suddenly become a top rank, so nothing to worry about 😉
Just like all other aspects of life, you need dedication to reach the top.
Chess is decidedly an obsession-enducing activity. It's essentially the real world embodiment of Scanners (1981 Horror/SciFi). And the toll it takes on players' mental health...at the highest levels...is well-documented. But even for club players, it is a heavy (often unhealthy) grind.
This is most excellent work, thank you!
Gotta love the apt (and absurd) comparisons between chess and motorcycle racing!
Chess should indeed become an Olympic event...and should be part of the USA school curriculum from k through 12. Chess is indeed a vehicle for teaching and cultivating good sportsmanship, mental agility, focus, stamina, concentration, perseverance and the capacity to make more objective fact based decisions in life. We have a long way to grow.
Chess has its own Olympiad.
Very interesting documentary! Thank you!
Thanks for an informed documentary on one of my favorite passtimes. JOHN BARNETT REVISITED 4 December 2024 2:56. ❤❤❤
I hope there's a documentary about the rise of chess prodigies in the making.
The story is good, but the constant music is very annoying.
yes
EXCELLENT!! I was all ears and eyes watching it. Soooo good and interesting and educating!
which year is the tournament depicted in the documentary?
Not sure, but I've been trying to find it based on Fabi's hair. That seems to be a good indicator.
Magnus was 2876 in 2019. Must be that year.
@@joshuatomlinson5018 Bro 😄😄😄
@@joshuatomlinson5018 I see, thank you. Based on magnus hair I also figured it must be a bit older
@@joshuatomlinson5018 lol
Well done documentary. The motorcycle comparisons were dumb, and I don't buy the notion that many players try to "psych out" their opponents. Many parts resonate, such as their descriptions of how players try to control their nerves. I always enjoy David Howell's lighthearted personality. All in all, very well done.
Gary Kasparov calls it psychological warfare. I will take Gary's word over yours, no offense. Player's definitely try to psych each other out. At the highest level the game is a combination of execution and mental fortitude. If someone has a weak mental defense they are as hindered as if they had a weak tactical defense. This is a very common belief in high level chess. Howell is a legend.
a brief edit - despite his controversial personality a great example of a player who has mastered "psyching out" his opponents is Hans Niemann. He purposefully creates chaos leading up to matches and has said this on multiple occasions. To be clear I am not really a fan of Hans but his rise in the last two years has been fun to watch.
@@Space_Ache Yeah people have been doing it at high level chess for over a 100 years. Capablanca was famous for his shenanigans back in the day
Capablanca is the Bible of chess. Just ask my Cuban wife
If you've ever played classical tournament chess you know exactly what it's like
@@Space_Ache I was in one of those motorway cafes once, you know the type with the red and white chequered vinyl tablecloths. Opposite me was this Russian guy who looked familiar - i later realised it must have been Gary Kasparov, the give-away being that when I asked him to pass the salt it took him nearly five minutes.....
A good documentary on the psychology of the players. As a player and lover of chess I strongly relate to the pain of losing, even at my low level. To lose affords the opportunity to learn and hopefully to avoid repeating the same mistake(s) in the the next game.
No one wins everything even the best of the best It's like tennis
I never lose. I either win or learn from a worthy opponent.
finally there's a KING'S gambit and where no one is a Gary Stu
What year is this doc?
Good video. Thanks 👍
Oh boy. Anyone who doesn't know about Derek Redmond, I suggest looking up his 400m in Barcelona 1992. Its quite a race. If it doesn't fire you up I don't know what will.
28:40 "Nakaruma" LOL
Anna Rudolf ... Kasparov ... Isle of Man TT ... perfection :)
In our days is mostly about chess engines and memorising....in old days chess was more about intuition your capabilities to outsmart your opponent without reading chess books and magazines.
is that gukesh in 29:30?
Yes
22:27
When you uncle tells you he's a professional chess player and you visit him at work and he's telling you how fun his job is
King's gambit showing off an pawn after White first move E4 willingly let it's king exposed to danger. 🎉
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Possibly the best game ever discovered.
Go is better.
U didnt cover vishy anand
38:24 - WOW… Bring back this genuine Staunton set, Jaques of London style! Instead of the sad "carbon copy" of classic Staunton they use at Ding-Gukesh with trash knights. Please 🙏🏻
THE TIME OF CHESS IS COMING ..”
my highest elo will be 2000. Yours faithfully
We believe in you kid!!!
Curious why there is a women’s tournament? Why not all together ? Not a physical sport
Because there wouldn’t otherwise be any women competing at the highest levels. The only way to have high-profile women chess players is for them to constitute their own category.
Women do not play chess! 2% of seroius chess club players are women!
TT and chess??? ehhhhh im confused. just because of location do not make them compatible. duh.
"Extra prizes for women." Gimme a break! You are either good enough for a prize or not. They are basically saying that women cannot beat the men.
60 thousands dollars for first prize in one of the greatest tournment it s a shame for chess if you compare with prizes in other sports
It's not a shame. Chess have a very small audience compared to other mainstream sports. Small audience = small prize money.
Was the same for darts 20 years ago. Now the audience has been growing a lot, so the prize money.
@@sauce1232Let’s change that! The king’s game needs more appreciation!
@@propagandacritic5511 The problem is that to enjoy watching chess competitions on TV or internet, you need quite some knowledge about the game and having played it a lot. I like playing chess but I have zero interest watching chess competitions.
A good counter exemple is snooker, It's a sport that has a quite wide audience and most of them don't even play. Rules and understanding the game is a little tricky (not as hard as understanding chess), but once you got it you're hooked for life and watching snooker competitions on TV is fascinating.
@@propagandacritic5511we would need another Bobby Fischer to generate interest.
Fischer did not made chess popular in USA! USA have so little numbers of chess club players!
I think players of this caliber (Carlson etc.), should make the kind of money as an average football player anyway. I mean, most of them devote every hour, from a very young age to honing their skills. It doesn't make sense.
Daniel King "one of the best Chess Commentators!".
Ok. If so he is also one of the best Bass players.
He is not one of the best he is THE best.
that music in the background is incredibly annoying
There was a camera watching the toilet? K.
was that baby Gukesh around 29:30 ?
Yes. Well spotted. You can briefly see the name plate with GM Gukesh D at 29:32. He would have been 13 yo at the time
It's very interesting in parts, but also terribly fact-checked .. I mean for example (circa 50:00) Magnus is hardly the poster child for streaming chess, or monetizing chess on Twitch or TH-cam, or "banter blitz." And putting that as an example of how he is a "disruptor" ??
So if what is said in the video is true, that nice guys are losers, what does it then mean to be a chessmaster at it´s highest level? To be mean and deceitful? It could sound like that when they also say that they´ve moved on from believing that it´s better to be a fair loser than a vulgar winner.
I'm led to believe that the growth mindset is baloney. It's such a small part of learning
That part was interesting. And yes, controversial at least. (And VERY important to the topic of aspiring chess players : clearly environment matters -- good practice, good training. But how much does "attitude" / beliefs (or "mindset") matter?
@3:00 I have to TOTALLY disagree with Kasparov nonsensical statement.... It's ALL about finding the right/BEST move. EVERYTHING else is a FAR AWAY SECOND PLACE...J/S
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I like chess, but I'm whole-heartedly disinterested 11 minutes in. Bad commentary and conjecture. A horrible comparison with motorcycles. It's like when Charlie Rose got all creepy with Magnus in that interview. Maybe I'm turning it off before it gets good, but a man can only submit himself to so much cringe before he turns away.
Thumbs up, but if you want cringe then go see after game press conferences of Ding-Gukesh. I came here instead, it’s only 75min and I found it a well informed doc on the psychology of the game : ) peace ✌🏻
Serbian titl !!! ☦🇷🇸👑
I like basketball !! 🏀
@@conjured_up_skeletons6178 Serbia is much more 🇷🇸☦👑 👍
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Vaya, cuando describe las características de la Isla de Man olvida la más importante: es un paraíso fiscal.
The king’s gambit is busted, it loses by force
51:30
Some of these talking heads talk such rubbish. 'carlsen us a bad loser and the best time to play him is after he has won'. The man won 125 games in a row! I get that this documentary is a sales pitch for a number of things (including that ugly hotel I guess) but they are just making stuff up.
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Chessbrah spotted in the wild.
When IA makes a chess doc. This was really bad :(
What's IA? You're the only one with this stance, in all these comments, so I'm curious?
@@kemocity intelligence artificielle (French)
@@IsisMusic Ahhhhh okay. Yea, I watched few moments of it, and was wondering why everyone was praising it.
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I like Tic tac toe
Where are all the brothers at?
Well...they're all brothers in the sense of a fraternity. The U.S.' prodigy Brewington Hardaway might make some noise.
Too stressed, Maurice Ashley lost his hair
Playing all the sports that take athletic talent.
chess players being patted down and scanned is hilarious
Cheating devices running more rampant than drones in the sky, bro
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The guy who is responsible for the sound in this film needs to retire from filmmaking. It is clearly not his calling. Why would you play loud music while people are speaking?
No guy or gal involved in this.. Get wise and realize that a channel spitting out daily full lengths is A.I.
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Chess is so unhealthy compared to other sports. They sit still all day. no exercise. stressed out. A table tennis player at least move his body. or other sports. I was elite level Karate competitor and glad I at least got to move around while doing what I love. I play chess now for fun yes, but its while walking on my treadmill. No intention to actually study the game.
They sit all day thinking of sausages.
You are a fantastic person @mrcadoia. Thank you for telling us.
Being a chessplayer doesnt exclude living a healthy life. Being a top chessplayer usually includes eating healthy and lots of exercise. If you are not healthy, and sit still all day, stressed out, you wont go far in chess.
You assume they don't play table tennis and practice karate for fun.
royaume-uni
Good amateur endurance athletes are burning well over 1000 calories per hour, so absolutely no relation to the much lower energy expended playing chess.
Sapolsky and other researchers have recorded Grandmasters burning 6000 calories in a single day.
I don’t think your average athlete is performing for 6 hours straight, do you?
An example of how to say I don't know chess without saying, "I don't know chess."
It’s not just about the total calories burned but about the type of exhaustion involved. In a 4 to 6-hour game, a top-level chess player might perform around 10,000 intense calculations, which places an enormous strain on their cognitive resources. While they may burn less overall energy than an endurance athlete (which is debatable), the brain's exhaustion from sustained high-level mental effort can be as debilitating as the physical fatigue an athlete experiences. The nature of the strain is different, but it's no less demanding.
Think of it like comparing an electric vehicle and a smartphone. An EV might use its battery to drive hundreds of miles, while a smartphone only performs calculations and uses far less total energy. But after a day of intensive use, the smartphone's battery can be fully drained, just like a chess player’s brain after hours of intense mental effort. The brain, like the phone, isn't limited by total energy expenditure but by the specific strain of the task.
@@joshuatomlinson5018 Is it because I didn’t do well in the last Titled Tuesday?
@@charliekowittmusic Amateur events where finishing in under 10 hours is considered very good: Any Ironman triathlon, Leadville 100 mountain bike race, Unbound Gravel 200 bike race, Alternatieve Elfstedentocht speedskating.
poorly directed, poorly written, couldn't make it through the first 5 minutes.
What a great doc! But who on Earth was responsible for having that non-stop meaningless melody (A-Bb-A-F-D) over and over again...please!!!
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Looks like wokery has arrived in chess, too!
Always nice to see David Howell lose!
horrible documentary
The exam analogy was quiet bad.