I've been around machine tools since the 1970s and I've never seen that much runout... ever. That was borderline terrifying. It's a shame that after all these years in machine building that things have declined so much. You would think that with all of the knowledge that has developed over hundreds or thousands of years that cheap, ultra-precise machines would be everywhere, but I guess these manufacturers have other motives. Another great video, Hersch. Great job. Thank you.
I think you can buy annular (not angular) cutters with Weldon shanks from Vevor as well. The regular drill chuck and its threaded Weldon adapter are simply to help when you have a requirement and the drill bit but not the Weldon shank cutter. I suspect you will find that you have some play in between the Weldon to chuck adapter which is taken up by the set screws. Perhaps you can adjust the set screws (trial and error method) to take some of that out. The other thing is you might want to use a hole punch to set spot where you want it before starting to drill. Like you saw, the runout doesn't normally impact the hole drilled once it is started - at least less than the runout actually is. Thanks for posting this video. It allowed us to look it over before buying one. We will. It would be handy in our fab shop and the price is crazy low for the utility. Thanks again!
@@alliedtesting8491 yeah you can, it’s just a 1/2” Weldon shank so they’re common. Just wished I’d have had some for the video. But yeah, it’s actually been a decent drill, I’ve been happy with it so far. Thanks for watching btw
I thought that the motor/head could be positioned higher up on the slde to give you more Z height. Is that not possible on the version that they sent you?
You mean mounted in a different position? I don’t believe so, didn’t see anything in the instructions about it but I’ll have to take a closer look and see if it’s possible. Thanks for watching btw!
@@hersch_tool That being said, you have a lathe. Could you machine a register into the chuck to make it run true? Just a small counter bore with matching shoulder on the adapter?
@@grippgoat I haven’t had a chance to really look at it but I’m thinking that the threads aren’t straight in the first place. It’s reaaaalllly cheap chuck… But stay tuned lol, I’ll certainly be giving it a shot.
Thanks for the video! I like mag drills had one at shop before I retired. I have a idea for you if you are speaking terms with local machine shops let them know about you and what you can do maybe they will send you work they aren't interested in or to small to deal with shops around my area do for me , and sometimes more than I can do Goodluck see you in next video
Impressive machine; weird that you can only drill the surface it's standing on because nothing will fit underneath the drill... 0:37 "My wife is currently standing on a ladder" - shucks, you're saying she's not 11 feet tall!!? Props to her for the camera work.
An IT guy doesn't know how to google "annular pronunciation" LOL. an-yuh-lr. Whoda thunk it. Probably the 3rd video I've seen on these Mag Drills, and they have all had bad runout with the chuck.
LOL the funny thing is, I know how to pronounce it. But for some reason the whole day I was saying it wrong. Then as soon as I loaded up the footage to edit it I just had to facepalm myself and accept that it was too late to do anything about it... 😂
The speed is down as low as it will go, it might look fast because it's sped up 3x at one point. And for those bigger drills, 400rpm is way too fast. I think im going about 100 "ish" for the biggest drill.
I think it’ll work well for my needs, but that’s why I do these vids. So you can see for yourself if the tool will work for you. Thanks very much for watching!
I've been around machine tools since the 1970s and I've never seen that much runout... ever. That was borderline terrifying. It's a shame that after all these years in machine building that things have declined so much. You would think that with all of the knowledge that has developed over hundreds or thousands of years that cheap, ultra-precise machines would be everywhere, but I guess these manufacturers have other motives. Another great video, Hersch. Great job. Thank you.
Yeah, it's entirely avoidable. I would love to see manufacturing come back to America, once and for all.
I think you can buy annular (not angular) cutters with Weldon shanks from Vevor as well. The regular drill chuck and its threaded Weldon adapter are simply to help when you have a requirement and the drill bit but not the Weldon shank cutter. I suspect you will find that you have some play in between the Weldon to chuck adapter which is taken up by the set screws. Perhaps you can adjust the set screws (trial and error method) to take some of that out. The other thing is you might want to use a hole punch to set spot where you want it before starting to drill. Like you saw, the runout doesn't normally impact the hole drilled once it is started - at least less than the runout actually is.
Thanks for posting this video. It allowed us to look it over before buying one. We will. It would be handy in our fab shop and the price is crazy low for the utility. Thanks again!
@@alliedtesting8491 yeah you can, it’s just a 1/2” Weldon shank so they’re common. Just wished I’d have had some for the video. But yeah, it’s actually been a decent drill, I’ve been happy with it so far. Thanks for watching btw
Are you sure the spindle doesn’t go up? If not why is there so much stick out? Thanks for the video.
Yeah, it's fixed. I'm not sure, maybe to provide room for different length shanks? I don't really know. And thank YOU for watching!
digging these sunday funday videos!
Thanks! It's def fun getting the wife into the shop. :)
I thought that the motor/head could be positioned higher up on the slde to give you more Z height. Is that not possible on the version that they sent you?
You mean mounted in a different position? I don’t believe so, didn’t see anything in the instructions about it but I’ll have to take a closer look and see if it’s possible. Thanks for watching btw!
First thing I thought when you started screwing the chuck onto the adapter was "No register? That's gonna run out like crazy."
Yep, big time
@@hersch_tool That being said, you have a lathe. Could you machine a register into the chuck to make it run true? Just a small counter bore with matching shoulder on the adapter?
@@grippgoat I haven’t had a chance to really look at it but I’m thinking that the threads aren’t straight in the first place. It’s reaaaalllly cheap chuck… But stay tuned lol, I’ll certainly be giving it a shot.
What model out there has a coolant system that works for the drill bits?
I imagine they’re all pretty similar
Thanks for the video! I like mag drills had one at shop before I retired. I have a idea for you if you are speaking terms with local machine shops let them know about you and what you can do maybe they will send you work they aren't interested in or to small to deal with shops around my area do for me , and sometimes more than I can do Goodluck see you in next video
That's great advice, thanks very much. And thank you for watching!
@@hersch_tool a dozen doughnuts now and then dont hurt lol
@@robertharper8776 lol, never does 😉
Nice!
thanks!
Impressive machine; weird that you can only drill the surface it's standing on because nothing will fit underneath the drill...
0:37 "My wife is currently standing on a ladder" - shucks, you're saying she's not 11 feet tall!!? Props to her for the camera work.
Yeah I believe they're typically used for drilling directly onto large steel structures like girders, pipes, etc. And thank you for watching!
@@hersch_toolyou can adjust the mount on the slide to get more room
The run out is unacceptable. Send it.
An IT guy doesn't know how to google "annular pronunciation" LOL. an-yuh-lr. Whoda thunk it. Probably the 3rd video I've seen on these Mag Drills, and they have all had bad runout with the chuck.
LOL the funny thing is, I know how to pronounce it. But for some reason the whole day I was saying it wrong. Then as soon as I loaded up the footage to edit it I just had to facepalm myself and accept that it was too late to do anything about it... 😂
Turn you speed down a bit 425/450 rpm would be about right it will bring your tip heat down and the bits last longer too.
The speed is down as low as it will go, it might look fast because it's sped up 3x at one point. And for those bigger drills, 400rpm is way too fast. I think im going about 100 "ish" for the biggest drill.
An-new-lar cutter
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I think you mean "ANNULAR" cutters.
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DO NOT buy the cheapest Vevor mag drill. I did and it was a mistake. Wet noodle.
Which one did you get?
This drill is not very good. It doesn’t have the proper depth adjustment
I think it’ll work well for my needs, but that’s why I do these vids. So you can see for yourself if the tool will work for you. Thanks very much for watching!