Nerf Solenoids: 35mm eBay vs FTW Hyperdrive

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
  • So I consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable about solenoids in Nerfing applications. I've been using them for about 18 months now and have installed them into things like Stryfe, Dominator, Swordfish, Jolt, Rapidstrike, Caliburn, and Retailator/Recon (using the FTW models). I've used 35mm, FTW Hyperdrive, and 25mm solenoids in pusher applications, and have a selection of other sizes, and air solenoids.
    So when people compare them along the lines of "get 35mm, it's just as good but 1/4 the price", they say this because they don't actually know the difference. They probably don't have both, and unlikely to have tested them extensively. Because if they had, they wouldn't say that.
    And so for an apples to apples comparison, I got a piece of big-arse Recon mainspring and did a bit of testing. If they really are the same, you'd expect the same result, right? Let's see.

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  • @UncleF115
    @UncleF115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    may I know what advantage does the solenoid have over auto pusher motor kit

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's mostly a matter of preference. However solenoids never strip gears, burn out motors, and have solid tactile feedback. Also super simple in a semi auto setup. They're virtually indestructible.
      However they're heavy, not so easy to use in full auto, and really top out at about 16dps.

    • @johnmurcott1273
      @johnmurcott1273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AirzonesBlasters I think there's evidence to challenge that on your channel.

  • @getinsidelife
    @getinsidelife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What you are trying to proof comparing two different characteristic products?

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 35mm solenoid vs the FTW Hyperdrive is a case of you get what you pay for. There's not a lot of people who develop control systems that take into account both, and therefore I felt that I was in a position to help people visualise the difference in performance.

    • @getinsidelife
      @getinsidelife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AirzonesBlasters What are the specs of FTW Hyperdrive then? This is pure comparison if we're talking about price so there will be nice to get some info about both solenoids.

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@getinsidelife go check out the ftw website for details. In a nutshell: similar size, 30mm throw, stronger spring with dual spring option, and the wire comes out the front of the core

  • @digitalben420
    @digitalben420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredible. I have 6 of these ready to go into stuff. One is for a Clubhouse Hummingbird. Ironman edition. Coming soon...

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds cool. I like my Hummingbird... It feels good in the hand.

    • @digitalben420
      @digitalben420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely, 100% agree. It’s the best feeling foam blaster available imo. Hit me up on clubhouse discord and I’ll show you what I’m workin with..

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@digitalben420 sure. I'm on the server. Lemme know your username or just tag me

  • @Hexsyn
    @Hexsyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh excellent, exactly what I was looking for! (Hexsin on reddit, btw)

  • @ThunderboltSiren1003
    @ThunderboltSiren1003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I have a link to buy the eBay one the cheap one I'm broke LOL

  • @mikkoku81
    @mikkoku81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am totally new to this. Did the first solenoid get warm because it was not strong enough to move the piston?

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really A solenoid is a big electromagnet. To give these units the power they need, they have a very low resistance and effectively makes them behave like a short circuit. Their duty time is only a few seconds before they start to burn up, especially when running at higher than rated voltages. The stronger the solenoid is, the less time they need to be powered on, and therefore the less internal heat they develop. I held the solenoid on too long and manually pushed on the core so that I gave it the best chance at working.

  • @N1sm0NIC
    @N1sm0NIC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So then what's the size difference between the two solenoids? I have a 35mm one on a prototype 3d blaster and was gonna shove another one in my rapidstrike but due to the issues of it not doing full auto even on 4S (and yes it did have the heating issue), I postponed the RS project. However, I also don't see much support for the rapidstrike at least for a 3d printed brace for the FTW solenoid, but they look to be the same size?

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are slightly different. The frame size is about 2mm smaller in height, and about 0.5mm smaller in width. The length is the same. Screw holes are in a different position. The biggest consideration is the plunger width. I only had the one shell (for a customer) and didn't want to cut up the ribbing to test it out.

    • @N1sm0NIC
      @N1sm0NIC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AirzonesBlasters wait the Hyperdrive is smaller than the 35mm solenoid? Or vice versa

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@N1sm0NIC hyperdrive is smaller

    • @frosttgasian1168
      @frosttgasian1168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AirzonesBlastersdoes the 35mm fit in the ftw kit?

  • @eduardosantos-to6gz
    @eduardosantos-to6gz ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi great video. Question. I need that the impact of the solenoid when hitting a table tennis ball from below would lift it vertically up to 2 meters. How can I do that? Can I use these? It does not seem to have enough power to do it. Also power would be on just for the kick and off again. Power on every 2 secs at limit. Would this warm up and destroy the aluminium cover? Thanks in advance

    • @AirzonesBlasters
      @AirzonesBlasters  ปีที่แล้ว

      They won't have that power. The solenoids are on when you have power applied, and off when you don't. The pulse comes from a microcontroller

  • @dansandotexe9780
    @dansandotexe9780 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the stroke length on the FTW solenoid?