Loki Review season 2 episode 1 where Disney prove their purchase was worth the money. Disney+ tells a story of Loki exploring time that doesn't really make sense and comedy that I know is meant to be there but can't actually find. Honestly, I'm not sure why this episode existed, except to advertise. But what did you think of what you saw? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
I Enjoyed this show. Everything makes sense so far. I can answer almost every question you bring up (aside from him running Right and Teleporting left) They just need to stick the landing with the Finale, Disney has a MASSIVE problem with that. Wandavision would have been great had it not been for the last (or next to last) episode. after watching Ahsoka, it's nice to see a group of actors that can ACT. Even the Annoying Hunter B16, You can tell what she's thinking when that old gram did that with the 20 year old guy. If they can build on this opening and not fuck up the story at some point i'll find this acceptable. This Loki isn't the Loki we saw in end-game and i can BUY that having all of his power stripped away(because he can't use it in the Null-Zone) and then being told by Mobius "You can be anything you want, even a good person" something hes never really heard before, I honestly believe it formed a friendship to someone, outside of Thor (and only when he did bad things) did he get attention. Thats just the way I see it as of right now. Lets see if they can keep this up in the next episode.
What the machine room for branches means is that Kang linked all the rooms initially to stop branches. Then in a situation normal controllable situations occur he sends the tva. So no one needs to know what this room does because it's now on autopilot. So how does this scene make sense if someone at the tva knows how timelines are synched and not know about the multiverses currently active? 😂 You can only sync people using the room which means they have to somehow know about Kang... or how they track what people say/do into documentation...
@@JoseMolina-jz9hh she was left at the desk that synchs all those rooms together. 😂 Her decision to live at McDonald's I can't control nor can anyone who is synched to the tva machines. She has the master code per say.
What evil is being presented as good in this show? Don't you dare say the pruning of time lines. No one on the show has talked about that as being good.
@@Infrared-nyne which god? If it is the bible one, remember he tends to wipe out everyone, not just what you deem evil. I thought we were passed the times when natural cycles was interpreted as some gods upset feelings:P
A heroic Loki who works towards good ends but does so with deception and trickery was tried in the comics once and it was very entertaining. I was hoping that's what this show would be.
Man fr he should be running the TVA under kangs nose an Kang finds out he’s been undermined and that’s how he get introduced. Loki can overtake governments without throwing a punch it’s like the show made him jus a regular ass human. This is the same guys who was traiding blows with Thor 🤣🤣🤣
@@j02savage9 Being in the TVA strips Loki of most of his powers. He also understands that what's going on with the TVA effects EVERYTHING. There's still room for him to completely heel turn when the Loki series ends and he can come back to an MCU movie in 5 years and be the ultimate big bad.
@@synnical77 heel turn? The only way he can do a heel turn is if he drops the leg on a prone Morbius to show he was in league with Kang this whole time.
@@johnw8578 yea but he’s a god hypothetically I could shouldn’t matter and no amount of time fuckery should render him powerless unless there’s actually something stronger suppressing them and it’s not Kang
Hes not a god here. Thats why he's acting like a child. There are no lies or tricks that can put him back in the path to return him home, his home is gone. His Magic doesn't work. even if he could return home there is no place to go miss minutes is turned off. I'm honestly enjoying this because this makes Loki the underdog. It's very hard to make a powerful person weak in stead of someone else, especially when they've already displayed great power in his earlier continuity. Even getting the infinity gems and going into a different timeline with them wouldn't do anything, each of those come from a different reality that doesn't even exist anymore. These are not the same writers as Season 1, they were all fired and the first draft was scrapped. I'm hopeful they can stick the landing here. But i won't hold my breath.
@@johnw8578Actually it could have been a good idea to have Loki's memory wiped out in S1, so he becomes just another TVA agent and only recollects some pieces of his former self by the final episode. That would explain some of those massive inconsistencies. 😅 Though Disney writers preferred to forget he's a powerful being whatsoever.
Imagine if season 1 was about the TVA chasing loki throughout the multiverse to kill him. But loki outsmart them everytime. His initial goal is to find kang and kill him so he can rule the multiverse by himself. Loki meets different people and experiences new things through the multiverse which helps him grow as a person throughout the season. Instead we got a beta male who is guided by his "superior" female copy
I have never heard any representative of DIsney's being proud of She-Hulk. Can you link the article or interview you've read where someone said that? I don't think I've ever heard a single actor, writer, director or producer from the show look back on it and say anything about being proud of the final product. Did you confuse their attempts at advertising this to recoup their losses as them being proud? That's just how multimedia entertainment is marketed, regardless of its inherent quality.
Please with the attitude lol. I'm 37. What does any of this have to do with She Hulk? We're talking about Loki. I'm not sure why you think the failing of "She Hulk" should lead Disney to end the whole MCU. It's not very reasonable to demand that every time a failure occurs, the whole venture behind it just comes to a halt. Should people that fail an exam or three just quit college altogether, or should they study better? What you're saying makes no sense. And you know, for someone that calls other grown men "kid" on the internet you don't seem to have a very grown up understanding of money and companies. For example, Disney is a company consisting of many daughter companies under its umbrella, as well as owning "external" companies like Marvel. The Marvel company as an entity has a standpoint and desires for their IPs regardless of Disney as a parent distributor. You're conflating everything into "Disney bad"
@@booshmcfadden7638 And wasn't in the TVA at the time, where even infinity stones don't work. Yeah, he still has his powers...if he was anywhere but the TVA. Thanks for paying attention.
@@DenLim123 You mean following the previously existing plot? Look the whole fucking season is a mess and bad, but you're barking up the wrong tree on this one dumbass.
The only defense for Loki season 1 is that the writers were unaware of the horrible moral repercussions of the TVA's daily operations. Thanks to season 2 we know that the writers were aware, they just correctly assumed the vast majority of the audience wouldn't engage with that morality. These writers are despicable people!!!!
It also could be that they honestly weren't thinking about it, and then DUE to the big fan criticism they went. "Oh." and then they changed it for season 2. I mean it was addressed a little bit in season 1 that this was a bad thing, but they seemed to really really try to brush it under the carpet. And justify it with "It's to avoid the war." narrative. But now it seems like they realize they really can't get away with not addressing it because fans are like. "Eeerh... What? These people keep committing mass genocide."
That or the writers fall into the trap that so many writers before them do... they throw out big ideas... THEN after writing them realize just how morally repugnant they are. It's like how with most clone stories all the clones die. A common trope is for the clones to not be 100% viable as organisms and thus die on their own, this gets used so much because the writers feel the need to get rid of them all. Spider-Man has to fight an evil clone this week, but next week the clone won't exist any more. the thing with the TVA is the writers came up with the one true right timeline idea as being the foundation of why they're erasing alternate timelines, but they don't really establish WHY it's the "right" one. DBZ did better there.... the right timeline in DBZ is the one where the universe hasn't been destroyed by gods from a different dimension!
Dude, it's fiction. Why do you think the writers are bad people because the people they are writing are doing bad things? Are the Russos despicable because they made Thsnos wipe out half the universe?
"Loki possesses strength, durability, and longevity far superior to humans." I think this series is not about the character from Marvel comics, but only loosely based on it. It is a totally different character. Edit: 2:20 Yes, original Loki can teleport, so we can assume he did that there, but honestly... bloody stoooopitttt.
I remember "Puny god".... And then Akira Toriyama-sama and Toyotaro-san imitated the scene but had Goku get thrashed instead of Loki... Goku... did not find it to be as devastating as Loki did....
@@alexz.8302 I know I am, but what are you? :D You were probably expecting the other wording, but I am a guy who made a video an uploaded it to youtube about the way the Android saga in DBZ was written. yeah there's no denying that I'm a weeb. :D
He never really did anything though in Avengers. He got hawkeye to run around, selvig to build that machine, aliens ran havoc. He just stood there making speeches.
When you think that the original cartoon adaptations of The Avengers from the early 2010s, Earth Mightiest Heroes and Avengers Assemble, managed to do justice to all the iconic story arcs and villains they used in their shows including Secret Invasion and Kang the Conqueror, you inevitably have to wonder what happened to their writers. Probably ended up on a street corner begging for change, while Disney hired slash-fiction bloggers.
I'd never thought to before, but reading your post made me google what slash fiction was when I realized I was not sure. Now I'm almost wondering if you know what it is(Not saying you don't, it absolutely still fits with your context)...It was nothing like what I was imagining, that's for sure...specifically because whenever I heard it out loud, I assumed it was /fiction, like reddit or something O_O
The show is written in a way where the writers want you to turn your brain off and consume episode and get excited for next episode. Nothing funny or happens besides mc.donalds in a disney show which tells us disney is on life support
@@DenLim123As someone who actively obsesses with time travel and paradoxes. This show is trash. It has so much potential to do interesting things but completely shits the bed
I used to be able to consume placidly, but Loki season 1 was so stupid and hates its audience so much, I can no longer watch anything without seeing the bad writing and activism in the moment. I haven’t watched a mcu show since. So, in a way, I’m grateful….
Loki season 2 episode 1 was literally just Loki running in a TVA hallway circle the entire show, occasionally stopping to talk 🤣. They writers clearly are milking the finale with filler episodes and calling it a "series".
As a woman who had only watched the Thor films cause I had a thing for Hiddleston, there is no money in the WORLD that would make me watch this show. S1 was mind numbingly moronic enough, WoT and Ahsoka already obliterated me this week.
That is the funniest shit to me too I keep pointing out. Marvel always had a mostly male audience, except for ONE of the title Franchises... It was Thor. But why did Thor have such a large female audience that may even outnumber the men? ... Well... Chris Hemsworth and Tim Hiddleston are both hot as all heck and has AMAZING chemistry together. Loads of women watched these movies for them, specifically. And then when Marvel tried to appeal to women by introducing middle aged, frompy, always angry, female leads... It didn't work! Nobody liked it! Not only did they lose a large portion of their male audience. They actually also lost the FEMALE audience they had! The female Audience didn't WANT Natalie Portman cosplaying as Thor. What they wanted was more Thor and Loki! What they wanted was Loki to actually interact with the Avengers in infinity war and End Game! Women.... Like hot charismatic men! That's how Marvel managed to get so many women interested in the first place! And hell... men actually really like hot charismatic women on screen! It's just that the women they hire for these newer movies are not hot, are not charismatic, and are honestly just repellent to any normal person of any gender. That's why men LOVED Xena Warrior Princess, but NOT She-Hulk -_-;
@@MoonPhantom exactly! When they get to the point where no gender can so much as stomach their bull for the sake of the pretty, charismatic actors we liked, you know it's doomed.
@@WannaBeLevrone Dude... I even said. "That May." ... Which means maybe... Not for sure. And I said Marvel always had a majority male audience. You can't deny though, that there was a decent portion of women watching too. The executives just failed to understand what attracted most of these women. And look... I am a woman... I am a woman that actually legit really like comic books. I grew up watching. "Justice League animated." and I still think it is one of the best animated shows ever made. But I understand that as a woman, I am a minority among the fans. Women are the minority here. And I am FINE with that. it's FINE that women are the minority, I hate that they feel the need for "Equal representation." in everything. So.... Chill yourself.
Disparu: 'Why is he running for his life?! He is a God! Pathetic!' Answer: His God powers don't work in the TVA. This was established in Episode 1, Series 1. He is running for his life as he doesn't want to get caught, or pruned, because he knows what is waiting for him in the void - Alioth. Disparu: 'Why did he jump over the ledge?! Pathetic!' Answer: He isn't human. He may be powerless, but he still has the physiology of a Frost Giant.
But when silvie is in the tva she fights through everyone who they attempt to throw at her. It makes no sense and is designed to tear down Loki to make his girl power version look better.
@@davidobrien2841 No, I don't agree with that. Sylvie's has had a lifetime of being pursued by the TVA as they tried to kill her as a child. This gives her a personal vendetta against them and makes her personality far more confrontational toward them. Loki on the other hand, has just recently faced a series of humbling experiences (e.g., defeat by the Avengers, witnessing his future demise at the hands of Thanos, realising his actions led to his mother's death). These experiences made him more introspective and open to questioning his role in the universe.
The moment you add time travel into any situation you remove any sense of urgency or suspense as you can just go back in time and do/fix whatever it was...
Maybe that's how you process stories with time travel. I enjoy the genre and there's plenty of ways to have urgency and suspense in them. If time travel or multiversal stories aren't your thing, that's okay. To just assert that they're inherently meaningless is simply a you thing.
You can do it well. As long you don't give a certain character simple powers that allows them to travel whatever, whenever but instead, apply rules set to your universe so that it makes sense for the audience and the characters. I wrote myself a fantasy story once many years ago which I might continue on again someday, and within that story, time travel only happens one time, and only a few characters have the ability to do ''something'' with time, but they cannot simply control it whenever they feel like it. By putting rules upon them and their powers in a good way, you create a realistic feeling of the situation your characters are in and that makes it more believable. Now if you look at Marvel or DC, no, Mortal Kombat even, characters can just come and go whenever they feel like it and it always does, because the writers behind these stories can't let go of their characters. In my eyes, once a character is dead, it's dead forever. But these writers keep bringing these characters back, with a lot of fundamental changes that ruins the character, or, it's the exact same one but appears...for no reason because fans/viewers like these characters or the writers cannot simply state that they are dead. That is what you're right about. That doesn't apply any suspense to their stories, because why take it seriously? They will appear in the next volume anyway so as a fan, you simply do not care about these heroes anymore and it seriously needs to stop. Oh, and the whole multiverse bull killed a lot of franchises anyway. Character 304 died in universe 294? Well there are other 4000 universes so, just replace it with character 289423 and act like it was the old one.
I love reading the old comments from people calling this show "Bad" and saying it has "Lazy Writing" just to find out it has become one of the BEST mcu products yet.
This was physically painful to watch ... comedy was terrible , visuals were terrible , acting was terrible ... They are straight up trying to burn money.
I must admit Tom was alright and even legitimately *good* in a few of the scenes but he wasn’t right throughout most of the show as in each episode he appeared to have a personality and appearance change! I know there were breaks in filming due to the pandemic and strikes but come on..I *did* read that the producers of the show said that they wanted to ‘knock down Tom Hiddleston a peg or two so that Sylvie could shine.’ He’s not the only one who was told to ‘hold back’ and ‘restrain himself,’ Ray Winstone from Black Widow said that he was told to ‘dial it down.’ 🙄
I cancelled Disney+ a bit over 3 months ago. I honestly have not felt any regret whatsoever. It was a waste of my money since I already own all of Disney's original hand drawn animated classics on Blu-Ray and DVD, as well as many of the classic Marvel Comic animated series (60s Spider-Man, 90s X-Men, etc). There's simply nothing there for me to warrant the price hike fee. 🤷♂
@@spritvio639 As disnoid don't show viewing numbers, pretty sure they know no one is watching their shite. But the show runners are too ideologically entrenched to see that their products have failed because the twitter bots saying the current thing is amazing.
I think we just have to come to terms that there is no such things as decent writers and it explains why studios held out for so long trying to to appease their demands.
@quinzerrak4975I think it’s because we know that Marvel writers are egotistical, hate their audiences and want to educate us. That’s why we actively make fun of their slops. Most people just watch Spy Family season 2. It’s much more family friendly and the writer actually loves his audience.
@quinzerrak4975 I pity your mental capacity if you find this enjoyable, are you perhaps retarded or a 5 year old? Because only a child would find half of the shit funny or enjoyable 😂
They supposedly took his "powers" tho. Which i had a problem wit in S1. Cause he a frost giant strength and durability is part of his physiology not "powers". Idk😂
As a massive OG Marvel, Loki and TH fan, I’m disgusted and disappointed at how they treated the character, actor, show and franchise on a whole! Loki shouldn’t be a wimpy sap!
When he's humbled like 10X over in an hour and his reality shattered I think it makes sense he'd change. And it's not like he changed overnight, he tries(and fails) multiple times to get one over on the TVA in the first season. And STFU about how "they treated the actor". Maybe if you watched a single fucking interview of Tom on Loki you can see he actually enjoyed his time on the show, and even ad-libbed his final line(which was great) Just because he wasn't your perfect little villain doesn't mean this version of Loki wasn't a good character in his own right. If you didn't like season one, why did you bother with season 2 at all? To find something to hate on?
Wait, so Loki time travels and drops the pruning stick because he can't take anything with him when he time travels, but then he is desperately looking for a pruning stick in the future and check his timer thing to see its not green yet. But how did he bring the timer thing with him?
🤦 People! Please watch it again because Loki drops it. When he dissapeared he is in pain and it always comes as surprise so he just dropped it. No one said he can't take stuff with him. Stop to nit pick. I don't like what Marvel puts out those days but some people started to overdo it on hate recently.
So instead of watching a show you find awful, you watch another person watching the awful show while complaining about how awful it is. Have you thought about spending your time doing something you wholly enjoy, unbridled from this awfulness? What sway does this movie universe hold over you that you can't let it go, even when there's nothing in it for you any more? What bitter resentment keeps hauling you back in when you could have been out there living?
Thank you for introducing me to this term! I had never heard it before. They also did this in the She-Hulk finale but the showrunner Jessica Gao thought it was amazingly clever. Then, again, she thought the show was really good, and that the bathroom scene in the first episode was a masterpiece. She was wrong on all three counts. I could imagine British comedy utilizing lampshading in an actually witty manner. As a matter of fact, I believe in Blackadder 3, in the episode (Amy & Amiability) in which broke Prince George needs to marry a rich industrialist's daughter, Blackadder ends up wanting to elope with a legendary highwayman, who had turned out to be a pretty woman. He stole all of Prince George's valuables to bring to their meeting place. The lady then robs some at gunpoint. I think she ties him up and goes away for a little bit. Blackadder says, "Oh, God. What a way to die. Shot by a tran svest¡te on an unrealistic grassy knoll." I don't know if that counts, but it was very funny!
Shows like Loki are another example of Hollywood morality and intersectionality. Good and evil don't matter, villains are always misunderstood and heroes are assholes in disguise. No writing is necessary as long as a bunch of diverse characters and a few easter eggs are dropped every episode. Every decision and agency is now a woman's and men are there to good around. No wonder Marvel's in the dirt they have no excuses left now
Well the nice thing about this is that I honestly feel like my fanfictions are better at sticking true to characters. In my fanfictions, Loki is a manipulative asshole, who manipulates people for his own self-interest and is kind of a self-absorbed narcissist... Because I was just like... well yeah. That's what Loki is. And that is what made him FUN in the first place. I was able to make him a protagonist by knowing he is more of a neutral than evil, he still has a sense of self-preservation and wants Asgard to succeed. So if the entire universe is at stake, or Asgard, he has reason to act to defend it... But will do so through HIS tactics of manipulation and being very self-satisfied when he outsmarts someone. His biggest flaw is his own narcissism. And that to me could lead to some funny situations where Loki thought he won and made the mistake on resting on the laurels, allowing somebody else to blindside him.
As a long time comic reader ( when the writing was actually good, 😄), this perfectly captures the essence of the character. He might do heroic things at times but it's in the name of self interest or circumstances forcing him to do so. Him being a scheming narcissistic trickster is what makes him a fun villain. Acts Of Vengeance is my favourite long form storyline with him as the main villain, even if he's mostly behind the scenes in the beginning.
@@Iron-Bridge I know right. And it's not like the MCU hasn't given me plenty of reasons why Loki would team up with the heroes. Would Loki want revenge against Thanos who captured him, tortured him, and used him as a servant and scapegoat for his own means? Not only that Thanos is a threat to both the universe and Asgard. I... DUH! Of course, Loki would want revenge, he doesn't need any more motivation than that. We don't even need the second bit about being a threat to the universe. And what makes it interesting is what lengths he would go to get that revenge that the heroes wouldn't, and yet he could be very useful to them as he has skills and information they don't. It's writing itself! And if I were to write THIS Show, this show where a Loki is pulled out of the Timeline, enters the TVA out of time, and learns about the timelines and Kang and all of that... What I would personally write is this. .... Loki would try to take the whole thing over, become the new god of the entire multi-verse, challenge Kang, and he can even justify his actions with. "Oh if I am on the top, it will be better than if Kang is, because I am a benevolent god who will make things better. Every universe just needs a statue of me straight in the middle there. I won't genocide everybody, then there will be nobody to rule, so because I actually do want to protect these timelines of me worshippers, that by defacto makes ME the better option. So I'm gonna go out take out Kang. Be the new god. Walk around and gloat to different Thors that I am legit a better god than he ever was or will be." I mean hell, I can see him pop up into multiple different timelines when he is bored, take out Thanos in glorious fashion for all to see and go. "Look at me I'm the best! I'm your savior! Worship me!" Hell the real plot would be when Loki starts to get really bored of it all when he finally has it and there's nothing to really challenge him.
@@Russ0107 It is only product placement if you get paid. That they didn’t declare it per British law is a pretty strong indication it wasn’t a product placement.
@@cogforreal5952 That exactly why I never finished the first season 😂😂 It was boring as all hell. On top of that Loki wasn’t attractive enough to keep me watching. Why take away what makes Loki Loki?
I'll defend this series for 1 reason, it's nice to see Data/Short Round's acting style has remained consistent for 4 decades... Proof that time doesn't exist within the TVA.
I pretty much watched the episode just for him. It was better than I expected. Hopefully it doesn’t end up like the later part of season 1, though. It was better than Secret Invasion.
There are ways to make time travel have consequences. One of my favourites is Re:Zero. Basically to sum it up. The only time the main character can go back is when he dies and surprise death is not painless. So if he ever makes a mistake or needs to go back he has to well ya know. He also then has to relive the memories of dying however it happened. Imagine having the memory and remembering the pain of dying or being tortured to death or watching friends and loved ones dying in front of your eyes. This isn't a power the main character wants to abuse. There are other problems such as he can't choose how far back he goes. So if someone dies and he doesn't know about it and he reaches a checkpoint as it were then he can't just go back and save them. There are real consequences in the story not just from death but from his own choices.
Steins Gate... That one is an AMAZING and heart breaking time Travel show. Though that one works differently. Basically in that show, there is a point in time where the main character's best friend dies. First she is shot to dead. Then the main character travels back to save her, only for her to die again, at the exact same time though through a different way. And again... and yet again. And no matter how many times he tries to travel back and save her through different means. She keeps dying. And the main character realizes he basically has to undo ALL previous changes he made to the timeline to undo her death. So he just keeps traveling over and over and over, to figure out what was different and resolve it, and use knowledge from his other travels to resolve the issues. And of course, his friends never remember what actually happened in the previous jump. Ending with a very clever time travel twist I won't spoil, but it's there. It's a VERY good anime.
@@MoonPhantom Yep that is indeed a good one. I also quite enjoyed Vivy's and Summertime Rendering's take on time travel. The ending of both is a little weaker then Steins gate but good shows overall. I don't know if When they cry counts as I can't remember whether that's multiple timelines or time travel or a mixture of both. I probably need to rewatch it.
DCEU has actually done that, to an extent. Not the best implementation, but the idea is there. In Flash the previous timelines don't cease to exist, instead they bleed into the new one. In Legends of Tomorrow you cause small changes even if you try to not mess up anything. Meaning the world is permanently changed every time you go back in time.
Your brain isn't functioning. You said it yourself HE DROPPED the stick. It wasn't dropped from not being able to be taken. Have you ever had something in your hand and...then didn't? WERE YOU SUCKED THROUGH TIME TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? Dude just fucking fumbled something he wasn't holding on tightly enough to. The other thing, held COMPLETELY in his hand, was still there after him being startled. Edit: I want to point out, several other things look stupid as fuck in this episode that have no recourse to argument...pick one of the meatier ones that can't be explained by "was startled and dropped the thing he was holding".
Items can go with him…like his clothes for instance. The light thingy was in his pocket. He dropped the stick because of the sudden body scramble not because items could go with him.
Really starting to love these rants as a guilty pleasure. Genuinely get a good set of chuckles each time. Feels like I'm at a pub with a fellow nerdy mate. Keep up the great work its playful and a good laugh. Much love.
The Description OB Gives to be Pruned : "You are pulled from all points in time and are extracted to the present." So you are basically pulling THAT copy of yourself to the present, so the TVA exists at the end of time (because that is where you are sent). Then, the extractor Pulls you out of the timeline and places you at the TVA instead of at the end of time. So basically, if someone else was pruned Between Mobius and Loki getting pruned they would have been pulled instead of Loki, but since they stopped punning timelines it would make sense that Loki would be pulled. (I understand the Logic, Kinda)
In Endgame the time theory stated that you could not change the past so no one should remember talking to Loki in the past cause that was now the future or basically a new branch
@@lonewolf_a_real1 If you actually understand how time travel works, Endgame did it extremely well actually. Even Old Steve makes sense when you remember he had access to THE TIME STONE. This entire series though? It makes me wanna rip MY skin off.
@@haku8135 Steve should've had to come back through the jump point, especially if he returned the stones like he was supposed to. He couldn't be sitting on the bench.
AI writers have to be trained on previous writing. If we feed it modern writing, it will write for modern audiences. Literally nothing will change...you know that, right?
*YES!* and while I was devastated at the time, this is worse. It is just *SOOOO* much worse! I’d really be interested to hear what Tom *actually* thinks of this mess. He *did* have a slight polite dig a while back saying that they ignored 95% of his ideas..And that was after a several day long ‘Loki and MCU lecture’ that he did btw! The utter disregard and disrespect to him and the character! Pumping him full of drugs to make him do their crappy bidding is just another story of utter *DISGUSTING ABUSE!* 🤢🤮
@@ZyliceLiddell They are ignoring ideas from the actor who is playing the character(which most likely he knows more about the character than more than have of the so called "creatives" that are working on it). Not to mention that there is no true creatives who are not trying to stop them when they come up with these bad ideas.
When the guy asks "how does it look?" to the lady in the elevator, it's like they tried to write a joke. Camera turns to her and... that's it. End of scene. They wrote a joke but didn't write the punchline. What despicable, terrible first episode. Even worse than season 1's worst episode.
The punchline is that she's an insecure intern that doesn't know what to say. If you ever worked with or trained interns, and met one that was shy and insecure, then you've met that person before. It's funny if you met that person before or know them. Not like jaw to the floow, laught out loud, HA-HA-HA funny. More like a little smirk funny. Are you saying jokes can only ever be verbal? You don't like slapstick humor? Mr. Bean? Charlie Choplin? No appreciation for non-verbal humor?
Disparu's attempt of a Scottish .accent is quite spectacular. I particularly like it when he drifts over the Irish Sea to Ulster. Aaah, accents are tricky.
Dude the jet skis were what morbious remembered he liked doing before he became an agent. This was talked about last season. That's why he had a bunch of magazines about them on his desk. And the agents DID get their memories wiped in-between the times Loki was time jumping. That's why they didn't remember him ffs. They talked about it several times in the episode. Going into something with your mind made up to not like it will cause you to see flaws that aren't there just to support your own bias
@@LordSeth-hf8ew The last Marvel movie I watched was Infinity War, so I did see Loki’s death, although I didn’t know whether he’d come back this time or not. I haven’t watched any of the Marvel TV shows.
The scene where he jumps out a window reminds me of a different scene "The humans think is gods. Let's test that" You know, the scene from when Avengers was good
Dude, i almost choked on dinner with the black and white tele-tubbies. Well done!! And I hate time travel stories. Time is linear. If you go back in time to change something, you've already done it and the future doesn't change.
Depends on the time travel mechanic. For something like Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban and timeturners, that is absolutely the case. Buckbeak never died, Harry always saved himself and the others on the lake shore, etc. For something like Back to the Future, changes in the past change the present/future. Usually the time traveler is insulated from these changes (Marty McFly remembers his original timeline, not the new one) simply by being a time traveler through timey-whimey reasons. There was a very interesting lecture of the differences between these two time travel mechanics here on TH-cam years and years ago. I have no idea if it’s still up or if I would be able to find it again, but you might enjoy it…
I survived by only watching it in an alternate timeline where I didn't watch it, I instead just watched this video. Then I had my memory erased and I pruned myself. Still waiting on that phone call.
Tom Hiddleston, Owen Wilson, and Key Huy Quan... plenty of talent in this episode. But all that talent is wasted to overcomplicate doing next to nothing. This episode was basically set up, and we have no idea when/if there will be any payoff. I did have to say I like Tom Hiddleston, and I'm happy this episode focused on his version of Loki
You know what happens when you don't learn good work ethics? You procrastinate until the day of the deadline and then you try to do all the work in one day or last hours while trying to delay the inevitable as much as you can. I am guilty of that myself sometimes. I imagine that's how they write scripts these days. I can't explain it any other way why these shows look like no one even flipped through the script before filming.
the focus was using a past beloved character's name, cutting his nuts off and hiring more blacks and more woman. the script can be anything, as long as its appropriate for 14 year olds.
I don't know who this character is, but it isn't Loki from Marvel. From what I saw of season 1, he's weak, naive, ignorant, dim witted, slow, and pathetic. He supposed to be a super intelligent demigod.
LOL! He had a small sword at the end of S1 if you don’t remember. But I’m thinking Tom has to wear it to keep himself steady now that he’s apparently been on Ozempic. Remember that Mobius (Owen) was literally helping him walk throughout the episode? 🤔
Time has to be created by someone or something outside of time and the universe has to be created by someone or something outside the universe. The TVA doesn't fit either of those descriptions really. In any case it is staffed by people from the universe who were born at points in time. So yeah like you said the time loom doesn't work.
It's ironic that Kang is the perfect Villain for these lame writers though. They can just write him getting defeated like they do with every villain right out the gate, and it won't matter cause there's infinite of him.
This show constantly forgets (or, rather, ignores) that Loki is a god. It treats him like an ordinary, weak human. Remember when he fought *Thor* one-on-one and owned Captain America?
Loki Review season 2 episode 1 where Disney prove their purchase was worth the money. Disney+ tells a story of Loki exploring time that doesn't really make sense and comedy that I know is meant to be there but can't actually find. Honestly, I'm not sure why this episode existed, except to advertise. But what did you think of what you saw? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
I Enjoyed this show. Everything makes sense so far. I can answer almost every question you bring up (aside from him running Right and Teleporting left)
They just need to stick the landing with the Finale, Disney has a MASSIVE problem with that. Wandavision would have been great had it not been for the last (or next to last) episode.
after watching Ahsoka, it's nice to see a group of actors that can ACT. Even the Annoying Hunter B16, You can tell what she's thinking when that old gram did that with the 20 year old guy. If they can build on this opening and not fuck up the story at some point i'll find this acceptable. This Loki isn't the Loki we saw in end-game and i can BUY that having all of his power stripped away(because he can't use it in the Null-Zone) and then being told by Mobius "You can be anything you want, even a good person" something hes never really heard before, I honestly believe it formed a friendship to someone, outside of Thor (and only when he did bad things) did he get attention. Thats just the way I see it as of right now. Lets see if they can keep this up in the next episode.
Teletubbies were not as bad as Boobah
What the machine room for branches means is that Kang linked all the rooms initially to stop branches. Then in a situation normal controllable situations occur he sends the tva. So no one needs to know what this room does because it's now on autopilot.
So how does this scene make sense if someone at the tva knows how timelines are synched and not know about the multiverses currently active? 😂
You can only sync people using the room which means they have to somehow know about Kang... or how they track what people say/do into documentation...
@@Quicksymphony nice, but your argument has one major flaw … female lokiiiiii
@@JoseMolina-jz9hh she was left at the desk that synchs all those rooms together. 😂 Her decision to live at McDonald's I can't control nor can anyone who is synched to the tva machines. She has the master code per say.
People who believe good is evil and evil is good shouldn’t write anything where characters discuss what’s good and what’s evil.
Eat an apple 🍎, Loki - become like the gods, and know the difference between good 🐍 and evil 🦚
God will win and wipe out all evil. I look forward to the coming days
What evil is being presented as good in this show? Don't you dare say the pruning of time lines. No one on the show has talked about that as being good.
@@Infrared-nyne which god? If it is the bible one, remember he tends to wipe out everyone, not just what you deem evil. I thought we were passed the times when natural cycles was interpreted as some gods upset feelings:P
Is it me or the old lady is Michael Jackson???
A heroic Loki who works towards good ends but does so with deception and trickery was tried in the comics once and it was very entertaining. I was hoping that's what this show would be.
Man fr he should be running the TVA under kangs nose an Kang finds out he’s been undermined and that’s how he get introduced. Loki can overtake governments without throwing a punch it’s like the show made him jus a regular ass human. This is the same guys who was traiding blows with Thor 🤣🤣🤣
@@j02savage9 Being in the TVA strips Loki of most of his powers. He also understands that what's going on with the TVA effects EVERYTHING. There's still room for him to completely heel turn when the Loki series ends and he can come back to an MCU movie in 5 years and be the ultimate big bad.
LOL you must've been pretty disappointed.
@@Blodhelm I much more of a DC fan than Marvel. When it comes to movies/shows I'm used to being disappointed.
@@synnical77 heel turn? The only way he can do a heel turn is if he drops the leg on a prone Morbius to show he was in league with Kang this whole time.
Is it just me, or they forgot Loki was an adult, let alone a god.
This is the less intelligent, less powerful Loki from an alt reality, I guess.
He literally went 1v1 with Thor 😂
Wait -- I forgot that he has no powers in the TVA and even the Infinity Stones are worthless there.
@@johnw8578 yea but he’s a god hypothetically I could shouldn’t matter and no amount of time fuckery should render him powerless unless there’s actually something stronger suppressing them and it’s not Kang
Hes not a god here. Thats why he's acting like a child. There are no lies or tricks that can put him back in the path to return him home, his home is gone.
His Magic doesn't work. even if he could return home there is no place to go miss minutes is turned off. I'm honestly enjoying this because this makes Loki the underdog. It's very hard to
make a powerful person weak in stead of someone else, especially when they've already displayed great power in his earlier continuity.
Even getting the infinity gems and going into a different timeline with them wouldn't do anything, each of those come from a different reality that doesn't even exist anymore.
These are not the same writers as Season 1, they were all fired and the first draft was scrapped. I'm hopeful they can stick the landing here.
But i won't hold my breath.
I just want to see a cunning, mischief, powerfull Loki. It that too much to ask? We don’t want this dull character who is busy with a stupid timeline.
That character died in Infinity War -- this is a different Loki who just forgot he was a god.
@@johnw8578Actually it could have been a good idea to have Loki's memory wiped out in S1, so he becomes just another TVA agent and only recollects some pieces of his former self by the final episode. That would explain some of those massive inconsistencies. 😅 Though Disney writers preferred to forget he's a powerful being whatsoever.
Imagine if season 1 was about the TVA chasing loki throughout the multiverse to kill him. But loki outsmart them everytime. His initial goal is to find kang and kill him so he can rule the multiverse by himself. Loki meets different people and experiences new things through the multiverse which helps him grow as a person throughout the season.
Instead we got a beta male who is guided by his "superior" female copy
@@MrShadowSmith and there we have a way better plot, that we will never see 😭
@@johnw8578 Ragnarok killed him.
Disparu’s descent into madness can be tracked by the amount of “golden ball” jokes he makes each episode
Golden Balls was Kenny Baker's (R2D2) name for Anthony Daniels (C3PO). The two did not get on.
He's referencing hallowed history.
If Disney Marvel can be proud of She-Hulk, nothing should surprise any of us.
Please tell me that is a baseless asumption. Please tell me they didn't say they were proud of she hulk
I have never heard any representative of DIsney's being proud of She-Hulk. Can you link the article or interview you've read where someone said that? I don't think I've ever heard a single actor, writer, director or producer from the show look back on it and say anything about being proud of the final product. Did you confuse their attempts at advertising this to recoup their losses as them being proud? That's just how multimedia entertainment is marketed, regardless of its inherent quality.
@@berkhero3006 They did
Disney would be proud of eating their own sh*t at this point.
Please with the attitude lol. I'm 37. What does any of this have to do with She Hulk? We're talking about Loki. I'm not sure why you think the failing of "She Hulk" should lead Disney to end the whole MCU. It's not very reasonable to demand that every time a failure occurs, the whole venture behind it just comes to a halt. Should people that fail an exam or three just quit college altogether, or should they study better? What you're saying makes no sense. And you know, for someone that calls other grown men "kid" on the internet you don't seem to have a very grown up understanding of money and companies. For example, Disney is a company consisting of many daughter companies under its umbrella, as well as owning "external" companies like Marvel. The Marvel company as an entity has a standpoint and desires for their IPs regardless of Disney as a parent distributor. You're conflating everything into "Disney bad"
I love Tom Hiddleston. They are killing me with the crap way they have written Loki.
Same. He's talented and it feels like such a waste of his talent.
It feels like bad Loki cosplay
@@svetlanaandrasova6086 It does. And Hiddleston is so much better than this.
They knew people liked him enough to give him a show, then made him a side character without powers, constantly getting sh*t on.
Same. He’s gone. Disney annihilated him! 🤧😪😭💔
I'm impressed you could do 40mins on that. Absolutely nothing happened in the whole episode.
Yeah this show is especially boring.
I really miss the time when Loki was intimidating and mysterious
I miss Loki in main MCU🥺 please 🙏 Marvel bring him back😫
He was also extremely strong and super intelligent, could teleport, make copies, and manifest bladed weapons.
@@booshmcfadden7638 And wasn't in the TVA at the time, where even infinity stones don't work. Yeah, he still has his powers...if he was anywhere but the TVA. Thanks for paying attention.
@@lanmandragoran8337 found the Marvel defender, stop trying to justify bad writing clown 😂
@@DenLim123 You mean following the previously existing plot? Look the whole fucking season is a mess and bad, but you're barking up the wrong tree on this one dumbass.
The only defense for Loki season 1 is that the writers were unaware of the horrible moral repercussions of the TVA's daily operations. Thanks to season 2 we know that the writers were aware, they just correctly assumed the vast majority of the audience wouldn't engage with that morality. These writers are despicable people!!!!
It also could be that they honestly weren't thinking about it, and then DUE to the big fan criticism they went. "Oh." and then they changed it for season 2.
I mean it was addressed a little bit in season 1 that this was a bad thing, but they seemed to really really try to brush it under the carpet. And justify it with "It's to avoid the war." narrative. But now it seems like they realize they really can't get away with not addressing it because fans are like. "Eeerh... What? These people keep committing mass genocide."
$14,000.00 per week with a 10 week minimum. Who earns that kind of money elsewhere?
That or the writers fall into the trap that so many writers before them do... they throw out big ideas... THEN after writing them realize just how morally repugnant they are.
It's like how with most clone stories all the clones die. A common trope is for the clones to not be 100% viable as organisms and thus die on their own, this gets used so much because the writers feel the need to get rid of them all. Spider-Man has to fight an evil clone this week, but next week the clone won't exist any more.
the thing with the TVA is the writers came up with the one true right timeline idea as being the foundation of why they're erasing alternate timelines, but they don't really establish WHY it's the "right" one. DBZ did better there.... the right timeline in DBZ is the one where the universe hasn't been destroyed by gods from a different dimension!
Dude, it's fiction. Why do you think the writers are bad people because the people they are writing are doing bad things? Are the Russos despicable because they made Thsnos wipe out half the universe?
@@spritvio639 Yes. Yes they are. >.>
"Loki possesses strength, durability, and longevity far superior to humans."
I think this series is not about the character from Marvel comics, but only loosely based on it. It is a totally different character.
Edit:
2:20 Yes, original Loki can teleport, so we can assume he did that there, but honestly... bloody stoooopitttt.
Right but we are not following the original Loki -- this is a different one. Still, he seems to have forgotten that he is a god.
He can't teleport without the Space Stone.
@@СайтаменHe can't teleport exactly, but he's the god of mischief, he can turn invisible and create illusions and stuff. Not that he remembers that...
Ummm magic doesn’t work in the TVA so doesn’t really explain anything
Low key don't have powers in this series. IDK how that happened but it's mostly cucked direction.
1:12 Remember when Loki was a reason to form the Avengers?
I remember "Puny god"....
And then Akira Toriyama-sama and Toyotaro-san imitated the scene but had Goku get thrashed instead of Loki... Goku... did not find it to be as devastating as Loki did....
@@marhawkman303weeb.
@@alexz.8302 I know I am, but what are you? :D
You were probably expecting the other wording, but I am a guy who made a video an uploaded it to youtube about the way the Android saga in DBZ was written. yeah there's no denying that I'm a weeb. :D
He never really did anything though in Avengers. He got hawkeye to run around, selvig to build that machine, aliens ran havoc. He just stood there making speeches.
@@Natta44 Orginizing is a job too, you know, and that's what Loki did. And he successfully brought chitauri to Earth.
Loki really seems to encapsulate being a “modern” MARVEL & Disney show
Marvel died many many years ago, you didnt hear?
It's sad to see what the have done to once successful, well written legacy characters.
You mean turn Loki into the most popular MCU/Disney+ series? Yeah man, so sad. @@booshmcfadden7638
We now return to "Disparu losing his mind..."
I'm happy he's watching this food rot. I was never going to, but I feel bad, like I'm slowing down to gawk at a car wreck.
When you think that the original cartoon adaptations of The Avengers from the early 2010s, Earth Mightiest Heroes and Avengers Assemble, managed to do justice to all the iconic story arcs and villains they used in their shows including Secret Invasion and Kang the Conqueror, you inevitably have to wonder what happened to their writers. Probably ended up on a street corner begging for change, while Disney hired slash-fiction bloggers.
I'd never thought to before, but reading your post made me google what slash fiction was when I realized I was not sure. Now I'm almost wondering if you know what it is(Not saying you don't, it absolutely still fits with your context)...It was nothing like what I was imagining, that's for sure...specifically because whenever I heard it out loud, I assumed it was /fiction, like reddit or something O_O
The MCU isn't adapting stories anymore. They're trying to create their own. Hence everything since the beginning of phase 4.
Earth’s Mightiest Heroes was such a great show.
I feel like the "make it make sense" line will be reoccurring like the "BASED ECONOMY" line😂
Real American psycho "why isn't it possible" energy
goLDeN BaLLs
The show is written in a way where the writers want you to turn your brain off and consume episode and get excited for next episode. Nothing funny or happens besides mc.donalds in a disney show which tells us disney is on life support
To be fair, I learned about Loki Season 2 from a Sweet n' Sour sauce cup; so they may have gotten their money's worth.
No, no, this is a sophisticated show about time travel, we are just too dumb to understand the nuances. This is a masterpiece 😂
@@DenLim123As someone who actively obsesses with time travel and paradoxes. This show is trash. It has so much potential to do interesting things but completely shits the bed
@@hhj186 I was being sarcastic if you can't tell
@@DenLim123 it’s hard to tell sarcasm over text and it was like 2 am so I’m sorry. Mb fr
I used to be able to consume placidly, but Loki season 1 was so stupid and hates its audience so much, I can no longer watch anything without seeing the bad writing and activism in the moment. I haven’t watched a mcu show since. So, in a way, I’m grateful….
It’s *SOOOO* painful and heartbreaking to see Disney do this to Tom, the character, the MCU, the fans! 😪😭😫😩💔
Loki season 2 episode 1 was literally just Loki running in a TVA hallway circle the entire show, occasionally stopping to talk 🤣. They writers clearly are milking the finale with filler episodes and calling it a "series".
As a woman who had only watched the Thor films cause I had a thing for Hiddleston, there is no money in the WORLD that would make me watch this show. S1 was mind numbingly moronic enough, WoT and Ahsoka already obliterated me this week.
That is the funniest shit to me too I keep pointing out.
Marvel always had a mostly male audience, except for ONE of the title Franchises... It was Thor.
But why did Thor have such a large female audience that may even outnumber the men? ... Well... Chris Hemsworth and Tim Hiddleston are both hot as all heck and has AMAZING chemistry together.
Loads of women watched these movies for them, specifically.
And then when Marvel tried to appeal to women by introducing middle aged, frompy, always angry, female leads... It didn't work! Nobody liked it! Not only did they lose a large portion of their male audience. They actually also lost the FEMALE audience they had! The female Audience didn't WANT Natalie Portman cosplaying as Thor. What they wanted was more Thor and Loki! What they wanted was Loki to actually interact with the Avengers in infinity war and End Game!
Women.... Like hot charismatic men! That's how Marvel managed to get so many women interested in the first place!
And hell... men actually really like hot charismatic women on screen! It's just that the women they hire for these newer movies are not hot, are not charismatic, and are honestly just repellent to any normal person of any gender.
That's why men LOVED Xena Warrior Princess, but NOT She-Hulk -_-;
@@MoonPhantom exactly! When they get to the point where no gender can so much as stomach their bull for the sake of the pretty, charismatic actors we liked, you know it's doomed.
As a man who didn’t ask what your gender was. Shat ahhp
@@MoonPhantomit didn’t outnumber men. Grow up
@@WannaBeLevrone Dude... I even said. "That May." ... Which means maybe... Not for sure.
And I said Marvel always had a majority male audience. You can't deny though, that there was a decent portion of women watching too.
The executives just failed to understand what attracted most of these women.
And look... I am a woman... I am a woman that actually legit really like comic books. I grew up watching. "Justice League animated." and I still think it is one of the best animated shows ever made.
But I understand that as a woman, I am a minority among the fans. Women are the minority here.
And I am FINE with that. it's FINE that women are the minority, I hate that they feel the need for "Equal representation." in everything.
So.... Chill yourself.
Thank the universe that there is still fanfiction that shows the character of Loki some respect... this show is just a bad fever dream 🤒
AGREED
A bad ‘detour’ ‘nightmare’ if you will..
Disparu: 'Why is he running for his life?! He is a God! Pathetic!'
Answer: His God powers don't work in the TVA. This was established in Episode 1, Series 1. He is running for his life as he doesn't want to get caught, or pruned, because he knows what is waiting for him in the void - Alioth.
Disparu: 'Why did he jump over the ledge?! Pathetic!'
Answer: He isn't human. He may be powerless, but he still has the physiology of a Frost Giant.
Disparu: Meme Channel
But when silvie is in the tva she fights through everyone who they attempt to throw at her. It makes no sense and is designed to tear down Loki to make his girl power version look better.
@@davidobrien2841 No, I don't agree with that.
Sylvie's has had a lifetime of being pursued by the TVA as they tried to kill her as a child. This gives her a personal vendetta against them and makes her personality far more confrontational toward them.
Loki on the other hand, has just recently faced a series of humbling experiences (e.g., defeat by the Avengers, witnessing his future demise at the hands of Thanos, realising his actions led to his mother's death). These experiences made him more introspective and open to questioning his role in the universe.
I wonder what was going through Tom’s head while filming this show in all honesty. 😂
The moment you add time travel into any situation you remove any sense of urgency or suspense as you can just go back in time and do/fix whatever it was...
That's only if you don't add any constraints or consequences.
That's not true. Back to the Future and the Cell Saga of Z showed time travel doesn't automatically lead to those.
Maybe that's how you process stories with time travel. I enjoy the genre and there's plenty of ways to have urgency and suspense in them.
If time travel or multiversal stories aren't your thing, that's okay. To just assert that they're inherently meaningless is simply a you thing.
Not if you do it correctly, like in Endgame.
In this however? Cosmic AIDS all the way through.
You can do it well. As long you don't give a certain character simple powers that allows them to travel whatever, whenever but instead, apply rules set to your universe so that it makes sense for the audience and the characters. I wrote myself a fantasy story once many years ago which I might continue on again someday, and within that story, time travel only happens one time, and only a few characters have the ability to do ''something'' with time, but they cannot simply control it whenever they feel like it. By putting rules upon them and their powers in a good way, you create a realistic feeling of the situation your characters are in and that makes it more believable.
Now if you look at Marvel or DC, no, Mortal Kombat even, characters can just come and go whenever they feel like it and it always does, because the writers behind these stories can't let go of their characters. In my eyes, once a character is dead, it's dead forever. But these writers keep bringing these characters back, with a lot of fundamental changes that ruins the character, or, it's the exact same one but appears...for no reason because fans/viewers like these characters or the writers cannot simply state that they are dead.
That is what you're right about. That doesn't apply any suspense to their stories, because why take it seriously? They will appear in the next volume anyway so as a fan, you simply do not care about these heroes anymore and it seriously needs to stop.
Oh, and the whole multiverse bull killed a lot of franchises anyway. Character 304 died in universe 294? Well there are other 4000 universes so, just replace it with character 289423 and act like it was the old one.
"We don't have a moment!!" Bruh I thought you was outside of time, you have all the moments😂😂
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Gone all quiet now 😂😂
I love reading the old comments from people calling this show "Bad" and saying it has "Lazy Writing" just to find out it has become one of the BEST mcu products yet.
Me too. I just put the name of the project and wrote bad next to it then you will find a video like this. Literally someone called gotg3 trash
@@Claurquz Facts lol.
This was physically painful to watch ... comedy was terrible , visuals were terrible , acting was terrible ... They are straight up trying to burn money.
I must admit Tom was alright and even legitimately *good* in a few of the scenes but he wasn’t right throughout most of the show as in each episode he appeared to have a personality and appearance change! I know there were breaks in filming due to the pandemic and strikes but come on..I *did* read that the producers of the show said that they wanted to ‘knock down Tom Hiddleston a peg or two so that Sylvie could shine.’ He’s not the only one who was told to ‘hold back’ and ‘restrain himself,’ Ray Winstone from Black Widow said that he was told to ‘dial it down.’ 🙄
While writing the show, the writers started time slipping like loki and forgot what they were writing before.
I cancelled Disney+ a bit over 3 months ago. I honestly have not felt any regret whatsoever. It was a waste of my money since I already own all of Disney's original hand drawn animated classics on Blu-Ray and DVD, as well as many of the classic Marvel Comic animated series (60s Spider-Man, 90s X-Men, etc).
There's simply nothing there for me to warrant the price hike fee. 🤷♂
Totally agree, good job.
If 6 bucs a month is a waste of money to you. I’d imagine you recycle bath water
Well it's just that the pruning stick cannot prune itself.
It's not like everyone ends up at the end of time naked, clothes are objects too.
@@j02savage9We got the alpha here! Touch some gras
@@j02savage9 Disney+ Sucks Ass, I don't care if it was Free, I don't want that shit.
The pain never stops, does it?
You guys could always just not watch the show and show Marvel you don't care for thier stuff that way.
@@spritvio639
As disnoid don't show viewing numbers, pretty sure they know no one is watching their shite.
But the show runners are too ideologically entrenched to see that their products have failed because the twitter bots saying the current thing is amazing.
The suffering is real.
Loki: “It never stops.”
I think we just have to come to terms that there is no such things as decent writers and it explains why studios held out for so long trying to to appease their demands.
Well, there are good writers out there, but they aren't getting jobs in Hollywood. They hire on wokeness, Marxist stuff you know.
@quinzerrak4975I think it’s because we know that Marvel writers are egotistical, hate their audiences and want to educate us. That’s why we actively make fun of their slops.
Most people just watch Spy Family season 2. It’s much more family friendly and the writer actually loves his audience.
@quinzerrak4975 You clearly are so desensitized to woke propaganda that you can't see it anymore. That's sad.
@quinzerrak4975 I pity your mental capacity if you find this enjoyable, are you perhaps retarded or a 5 year old? Because only a child would find half of the shit funny or enjoyable 😂
Forgot to mention how that random flying car just so happens to crash into a room where there are people Loki knows
2:51 To be fair, if he could survive that thrashing by the Hulk, I don't think a fall of ANY height is going to be a threat to his life lol.
They supposedly took his "powers" tho. Which i had a problem wit in S1. Cause he a frost giant strength and durability is part of his physiology not "powers". Idk😂
In s1 he fell from the sky into the desert and was fine 😂
I just don't get why they gender-swapped Korben Dallas...
@@jeebuschristos8423 LOL no it was Leeloo who fell in that one, which means SHE was swapped... That's OUTRAGEOUS, that's simply not allowed!
@@lonewolf_a_real1Did they take his intelligence too? Powers or not Loki is supposed to be extraordinarily intelligent and clever.
I checked Loki S2 - EP1 and my initial reaction was ''this is peak Disney'' and I mean it in the worst possible way.
The scenes with OB at the round desk was like something out of a *PLAYSCHOOL* episode!
"Pointing out your own stupids doesn't make your [TV show] any less stupid."
-- MauLer
Loki has held his own against Thor and took the full force of the Hulk and survived. Now he's a mewling quim
😉
It literally feels like its written by children.
As one Disney+ series ends, another returns. I hope this one doesn't bring as much boredom as the last!
The fact that you people keep giving Disney a chance and your dollars gives me no hope for humanity and the future of cinema. Sorry
As a massive OG Marvel, Loki and TH fan, I’m disgusted and disappointed at how they treated the character, actor, show and franchise on a whole! Loki shouldn’t be a wimpy sap!
When he's humbled like 10X over in an hour and his reality shattered I think it makes sense he'd change. And it's not like he changed overnight, he tries(and fails) multiple times to get one over on the TVA in the first season.
And STFU about how "they treated the actor". Maybe if you watched a single fucking interview of Tom on Loki you can see he actually enjoyed his time on the show, and even ad-libbed his final line(which was great)
Just because he wasn't your perfect little villain doesn't mean this version of Loki wasn't a good character in his own right.
If you didn't like season one, why did you bother with season 2 at all? To find something to hate on?
@@dbear7717 I thought it was going to be better and that Loki would be a badass since it was a different team.
Wait, so Loki time travels and drops the pruning stick because he can't take anything with him when he time travels, but then he is desperately looking for a pruning stick in the future and check his timer thing to see its not green yet. But how did he bring the timer thing with him?
Yeah... I was wondering that too
I think it works the same way his clothes does. Whatever is imediately on him goes with him
@@craftymind2913Bad writing.
Bad writing. This episode sucks and nothing makes sense.
🤦 People! Please watch it again because Loki drops it. When he dissapeared he is in pain and it always comes as surprise so he just dropped it. No one said he can't take stuff with him. Stop to nit pick. I don't like what Marvel puts out those days but some people started to overdo it on hate recently.
This is so much better than watching these awful shows yourself.
Thank you for your service.
So instead of watching a show you find awful, you watch another person watching the awful show while complaining about how awful it is.
Have you thought about spending your time doing something you wholly enjoy, unbridled from this awfulness? What sway does this movie universe hold over you that you can't let it go, even when there's nothing in it for you any more? What bitter resentment keeps hauling you back in when you could have been out there living?
@@Preach07exactly it makes no sense 😂. These dudes just chat shit most of the time for the sake of it
yeah the people who make these comments have no ground too stand on@@Preach07
29:01 I can't understand this even with you telling me to "turn your Brain off" lol
It’s called “lampshading” and it’s a sign of VERY poor creativity.
Thank you for introducing me to this term! I had never heard it before. They also did this in the She-Hulk finale but the showrunner Jessica Gao thought it was amazingly clever. Then, again, she thought the show was really good, and that the bathroom scene in the first episode was a masterpiece. She was wrong on all three counts.
I could imagine British comedy utilizing lampshading in an actually witty manner. As a matter of fact, I believe in Blackadder 3, in the episode (Amy & Amiability) in which broke Prince George needs to marry a rich industrialist's daughter, Blackadder ends up wanting to elope with a legendary highwayman, who had turned out to be a pretty woman. He stole all of Prince George's valuables to bring to their meeting place. The lady then robs some at gunpoint. I think she ties him up and goes away for a little bit. Blackadder says, "Oh, God. What a way to die. Shot by a tran svest¡te on an unrealistic grassy knoll."
I don't know if that counts, but it was very funny!
Thanks! That jump scene was great!
Wait they had short round in Loki but not Indiana Jones? These people are just genius. He said with heavy sarcasm.
Shows like Loki are another example of Hollywood morality and intersectionality. Good and evil don't matter, villains are always misunderstood and heroes are assholes in disguise. No writing is necessary as long as a bunch of diverse characters and a few easter eggs are dropped every episode. Every decision and agency is now a woman's and men are there to good around. No wonder Marvel's in the dirt they have no excuses left now
Well the nice thing about this is that I honestly feel like my fanfictions are better at sticking true to characters.
In my fanfictions, Loki is a manipulative asshole, who manipulates people for his own self-interest and is kind of a self-absorbed narcissist... Because I was just like... well yeah. That's what Loki is. And that is what made him FUN in the first place. I was able to make him a protagonist by knowing he is more of a neutral than evil, he still has a sense of self-preservation and wants Asgard to succeed. So if the entire universe is at stake, or Asgard, he has reason to act to defend it... But will do so through HIS tactics of manipulation and being very self-satisfied when he outsmarts someone. His biggest flaw is his own narcissism. And that to me could lead to some funny situations where Loki thought he won and made the mistake on resting on the laurels, allowing somebody else to blindside him.
This is all I want for a Loki serie, not this timeline crap
As a long time comic reader ( when the writing was actually good, 😄), this perfectly captures the essence of the character. He might do heroic things at times but it's in the name of self interest or circumstances forcing him to do so. Him being a scheming narcissistic trickster is what makes him a fun villain.
Acts Of Vengeance is my favourite long form storyline with him as the main villain, even if he's mostly behind the scenes in the beginning.
@@Iron-Bridge I know right.
And it's not like the MCU hasn't given me plenty of reasons why Loki would team up with the heroes.
Would Loki want revenge against Thanos who captured him, tortured him, and used him as a servant and scapegoat for his own means? Not only that Thanos is a threat to both the universe and Asgard.
I... DUH! Of course, Loki would want revenge, he doesn't need any more motivation than that. We don't even need the second bit about being a threat to the universe. And what makes it interesting is what lengths he would go to get that revenge that the heroes wouldn't, and yet he could be very useful to them as he has skills and information they don't.
It's writing itself!
And if I were to write THIS Show, this show where a Loki is pulled out of the Timeline, enters the TVA out of time, and learns about the timelines and Kang and all of that... What I would personally write is this.
.... Loki would try to take the whole thing over, become the new god of the entire multi-verse, challenge Kang, and he can even justify his actions with. "Oh if I am on the top, it will be better than if Kang is, because I am a benevolent god who will make things better. Every universe just needs a statue of me straight in the middle there. I won't genocide everybody, then there will be nobody to rule, so because I actually do want to protect these timelines of me worshippers, that by defacto makes ME the better option. So I'm gonna go out take out Kang. Be the new god. Walk around and gloat to different Thors that I am legit a better god than he ever was or will be."
I mean hell, I can see him pop up into multiple different timelines when he is bored, take out Thanos in glorious fashion for all to see and go. "Look at me I'm the best! I'm your savior! Worship me!"
Hell the real plot would be when Loki starts to get really bored of it all when he finally has it and there's nothing to really challenge him.
Are you on ao3?
The Jetski thing was from S1. Mobius wanted one and it was a subconscious thought from his previous life.
It being a callback doesn't mean it wasn't product placement. It means they renewed the subscription for that product placement in season 2.
@@Russ0107 Gotta pay the bills.
.... How do you know that?
You have crazy good memory. Seriously kudos.
@@Russ0107 It is only product placement if you get paid. That they didn’t declare it per British law is a pretty strong indication it wasn’t a product placement.
Another beautiful season of universe breaking lore
Can we talk about how Loki isn’t acting like Loki? He’s not cool calm and collected. He’s emotional and erratic. Not attractive at all.
He doesn’t have powers there so not in control- emotional
@@cogforreal5952 That exactly why I never finished the first season 😂😂 It was boring as all hell. On top of that Loki wasn’t attractive enough to keep me watching. Why take away what makes Loki Loki?
@@ZyliceLiddell God you must hate this show. You're literally in almost every reply
the minute you mentioned bitty I had immediate Game of Thrones flashbacks as I'm pretty sure her 1st scene as Lysa Arryn is her giving bitty.
Thank you for another funny video!
I'll defend this series for 1 reason, it's nice to see Data/Short Round's acting style has remained consistent for 4 decades... Proof that time doesn't exist within the TVA.
He was the best part of the episode, but the bar wasn't high.
2 looks like 1. The actors will do their best to carry the script.
I pretty much watched the episode just for him. It was better than I expected. Hopefully it doesn’t end up like the later part of season 1, though. It was better than Secret Invasion.
He actually won Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars in 2022 for his role in 'Everything Everywhere All at once'
Hell is filled with people who just followed orders
There are ways to make time travel have consequences. One of my favourites is Re:Zero. Basically to sum it up. The only time the main character can go back is when he dies and surprise death is not painless. So if he ever makes a mistake or needs to go back he has to well ya know. He also then has to relive the memories of dying however it happened. Imagine having the memory and remembering the pain of dying or being tortured to death or watching friends and loved ones dying in front of your eyes. This isn't a power the main character wants to abuse. There are other problems such as he can't choose how far back he goes. So if someone dies and he doesn't know about it and he reaches a checkpoint as it were then he can't just go back and save them. There are real consequences in the story not just from death but from his own choices.
Steins Gate... That one is an AMAZING and heart breaking time Travel show. Though that one works differently.
Basically in that show, there is a point in time where the main character's best friend dies.
First she is shot to dead. Then the main character travels back to save her, only for her to die again, at the exact same time though through a different way. And again... and yet again. And no matter how many times he tries to travel back and save her through different means. She keeps dying. And the main character realizes he basically has to undo ALL previous changes he made to the timeline to undo her death. So he just keeps traveling over and over and over, to figure out what was different and resolve it, and use knowledge from his other travels to resolve the issues. And of course, his friends never remember what actually happened in the previous jump. Ending with a very clever time travel twist I won't spoil, but it's there.
It's a VERY good anime.
@@MoonPhantom Yep that is indeed a good one. I also quite enjoyed Vivy's and Summertime Rendering's take on time travel. The ending of both is a little weaker then Steins gate but good shows overall. I don't know if When they cry counts as I can't remember whether that's multiple timelines or time travel or a mixture of both. I probably need to rewatch it.
@@MoonPhantom Usually time travel is a terrible addition to a story unless the plot is directly about time travel
DCEU has actually done that, to an extent. Not the best implementation, but the idea is there. In Flash the previous timelines don't cease to exist, instead they bleed into the new one. In Legends of Tomorrow you cause small changes even if you try to not mess up anything. Meaning the world is permanently changed every time you go back in time.
@@pyropulseIXXI That's a very good point and a good way of putting it.
There are more lampshades in this episode than in every 80s swingers party combined
Wait he dropped the stick but not the green light timing device? So which is it you can’t take objects or you can
Your brain isn't functioning. You said it yourself HE DROPPED the stick. It wasn't dropped from not being able to be taken. Have you ever had something in your hand and...then didn't? WERE YOU SUCKED THROUGH TIME TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? Dude just fucking fumbled something he wasn't holding on tightly enough to. The other thing, held COMPLETELY in his hand, was still there after him being startled.
Edit: I want to point out, several other things look stupid as fuck in this episode that have no recourse to argument...pick one of the meatier ones that can't be explained by "was startled and dropped the thing he was holding".
Items can go with him…like his clothes for instance. The light thingy was in his pocket. He dropped the stick because of the sudden body scramble not because items could go with him.
@@ChocolateThaiE Couldnt*
@@lanmandragoran8337 thanks. I’m not editing it though. You knew what I meant lol
@@ChocolateThaiE Of course I did. Doesn't mean you weren't wrong. Say what you mean instead of making people try to figure out your gibberish.
writers striked claiming they needed more money...
this is what they produce...
let them starve
Really starting to love these rants as a guilty pleasure. Genuinely get a good set of chuckles each time. Feels like I'm at a pub with a fellow nerdy mate. Keep up the great work its playful and a good laugh. Much love.
It's the only way of watching without dying of cringe.
13:11 You should have put the John Travolta meme while saying ‘where is Loki’ the black guy from GOTG saying ‘Who?’ 😆
Where are the reviews for episodes 2-4?
Loki is actually good, reviews stop if so
@@M_RM. I'd not call it that. It is a mess. Ends with Loki just getting written out of the MCU for good
The Description OB Gives to be Pruned : "You are pulled from all points in time and are extracted to the present."
So you are basically pulling THAT copy of yourself to the present, so the TVA exists at the end of time (because that is where you are sent). Then, the extractor Pulls you out of the timeline
and places you at the TVA instead of at the end of time. So basically, if someone else was pruned Between Mobius and Loki getting pruned they would have been pulled instead of Loki, but since they stopped punning timelines it would make sense that Loki would be pulled. (I understand the Logic, Kinda)
I don't... what? My head hurts.
Yeah, kinda.
So did loki lose all his powers? It'd make the series make a lot more sense
They’ve made him so weak. I never feel they portrayed him well but hiddleston carries things..
Timey-wimey multiversey-worsey stuff of a string of chaos all balled up.
How can you strip a god of his powers?
They made it very clear in the first season, he has no powers while inside the TVA. When they travel outside of the TVA he has all of his powers.
@@YoGranDaddyEvil Oh yea, and even the infinity stones were worthless there.
16 minutes into this and uuuuhhhhh...........wtf is happening?? I have no idea what is going on!!!!
In Endgame the time theory stated that you could not change the past so no one should remember talking to Loki in the past cause that was now the future or basically a new branch
Except the TVA exists outside of normal time space
@@SageOfLimitlessHands Cope and shill harder, consoomer.
They established that in S1 of this show. They broke that rule in Endgame, you know they gonna do it here😂😂
@@lonewolf_a_real1 If you actually understand how time travel works, Endgame did it extremely well actually. Even Old Steve makes sense when you remember he had access to THE TIME STONE.
This entire series though?
It makes me wanna rip MY skin off.
@@haku8135 Steve should've had to come back through the jump point, especially if he returned the stones like he was supposed to. He couldn't be sitting on the bench.
Dear Disney: please just replace every character with young black women all at once. Doing it gradually is annoying and unnecessary.
Honestly at this point I'm hoping AI writers actually become a thing, hopefully it can write something better than whatever this is.
AI writers have to be trained on previous writing. If we feed it modern writing, it will write for modern audiences. Literally nothing will change...you know that, right?
Loki was killed by Thanos in Infinity War and that is all I got to say about that.
*YES!* and while I was devastated at the time, this is worse. It is just *SOOOO* much worse! I’d really be interested to hear what Tom *actually* thinks of this mess. He *did* have a slight polite dig a while back saying that they ignored 95% of his ideas..And that was after a several day long ‘Loki and MCU lecture’ that he did btw! The utter disregard and disrespect to him and the character! Pumping him full of drugs to make him do their crappy bidding is just another story of utter *DISGUSTING ABUSE!* 🤢🤮
@@ZyliceLiddell They are ignoring ideas from the actor who is playing the character(which most likely he knows more about the character than more than have of the so called "creatives" that are working on it).
Not to mention that there is no true creatives who are not trying to stop them when they come up with these bad ideas.
"why do u have someone in ur show named Rimslayer!"... 😂😂😂
I got a whole bunch of nothing from that episode except that Disparu's explanation makes more sense then the actual writer's explanation
“Stick a deck of cards in there.”
LOL 😂😂
When the guy asks "how does it look?" to the lady in the elevator, it's like they tried to write a joke. Camera turns to her and... that's it. End of scene. They wrote a joke but didn't write the punchline. What despicable, terrible first episode. Even worse than season 1's worst episode.
The punchline is that she's an insecure intern that doesn't know what to say. If you ever worked with or trained interns, and met one that was shy and insecure, then you've met that person before. It's funny if you met that person before or know them. Not like jaw to the floow, laught out loud, HA-HA-HA funny. More like a little smirk funny.
Are you saying jokes can only ever be verbal? You don't like slapstick humor? Mr. Bean? Charlie Choplin? No appreciation for non-verbal humor?
OH GOD THEY'RE DOUBLING DOWN!
WHY ARE THEY DOUBLING DOWN ON THE SUPER COMPLICATED MULTIVERSAL TIME TRAVEL!?
THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE BASICS!
So in 200 years nobody repaired a crack? Lol
A Thor cameo would change everything,"What generic 70s inspired hell have you found yourself in brother ?"
He needs Thor to save him and bring him home to Asgard! Kevin Wright did say that the goal is to have them reunite by the end of S2..
This is what happens when stupid people steal your stuff and then only play with it to spite you.
Best explanation of disney I've heard.
Teletubbbies without the colour removed is actually scary
The director of S1, Kate Herron literally said that the Teletubbies inspired part of the show.. 🤦♀️
Disparu's attempt of a Scottish .accent is quite spectacular. I particularly like it when he drifts over the Irish Sea to Ulster. Aaah, accents are tricky.
This "Loki" feels like a corpse dugged up from Pet cemetery.
Sometimes dead is better!
Dude the jet skis were what morbious remembered he liked doing before he became an agent. This was talked about last season. That's why he had a bunch of magazines about them on his desk.
And the agents DID get their memories wiped in-between the times Loki was time jumping. That's why they didn't remember him ffs. They talked about it several times in the episode.
Going into something with your mind made up to not like it will cause you to see flaws that aren't there just to support your own bias
You are correct, Disparu made several mistakes in this video.
Say it again for the people in the back!!!
See I don't even bother watching mainstream media anymore, I just watch your episode reviews now. At least your funny and real
Loki was my favorite Marvel character back when I actually cared about Marvel movies, it’s a bit infuriating to see him portrayed this way
you watched episode 1 of season 1 right?
you remember loki the one you liked, died right?
@@LordSeth-hf8ew The last Marvel movie I watched was Infinity War, so I did see Loki’s death, although I didn’t know whether he’d come back this time or not. I haven’t watched any of the Marvel TV shows.
Its nothing compared what they did to Thor...
"I know what I want. I know what kind of god I need to be. For you--for all of us."
*Epicness ensues*
The scene where he jumps out a window reminds me of a different scene
"The humans think is gods. Let's test that"
You know, the scene from when Avengers was good
I just thought of him trying to ‘escape the show!’ 😂
Thats the first time it was Johnathan Majors being hit by a woman instead of the other way around. (When the lady hit the statue)
Remember when Loki was cool and dangerous?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Dude, i almost choked on dinner with the black and white tele-tubbies. Well done!! And I hate time travel stories. Time is linear. If you go back in time to change something, you've already done it and the future doesn't change.
Depends on the time travel mechanic. For something like Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban and timeturners, that is absolutely the case. Buckbeak never died, Harry always saved himself and the others on the lake shore, etc.
For something like Back to the Future, changes in the past change the present/future. Usually the time traveler is insulated from these changes (Marty McFly remembers his original timeline, not the new one) simply by being a time traveler through timey-whimey reasons.
There was a very interesting lecture of the differences between these two time travel mechanics here on TH-cam years and years ago. I have no idea if it’s still up or if I would be able to find it again, but you might enjoy it…
Yeah, that is probably why you don’t like time travel. The only version you allow sucks.
Nope, a significant search did not reveal the lecture. It might be gone, too bad it was interesting.
Disney fucking up more money? Yup I'm up for this!
I survived by only watching it in an alternate timeline where I didn't watch it, I instead just watched this video. Then I had my memory erased and I pruned myself. Still waiting on that phone call.
I wasn't expecting a Mr Blobby reference, but I'm glad we got one
Blobby oh Mr Blobby
Wow, no-one will get that ! Nice ! Lol 👍
The only thing missing is the canned laughter to improve the "funny"
And Seinfeld music..
Tom Hiddleston, Owen Wilson, and Key Huy Quan... plenty of talent in this episode. But all that talent is wasted to overcomplicate doing next to nothing. This episode was basically set up, and we have no idea when/if there will be any payoff.
I did have to say I like Tom Hiddleston, and I'm happy this episode focused on his version of Loki
You know what happens when you don't learn good work ethics? You procrastinate until the day of the deadline and then you try to do all the work in one day or last hours while trying to delay the inevitable as much as you can. I am guilty of that myself sometimes.
I imagine that's how they write scripts these days. I can't explain it any other way why these shows look like no one even flipped through the script before filming.
the focus was using a past beloved character's name, cutting his nuts off and hiring more blacks and more woman. the script can be anything, as long as its appropriate for 14 year olds.
I don't know who this character is, but it isn't Loki from Marvel. From what I saw of season 1, he's weak, naive, ignorant, dim witted, slow, and pathetic. He supposed to be a super intelligent demigod.
Wtf is up with his shoulder suspenders? Will his arms fall off if he isn’t wearing them?
LOL! He had a small sword at the end of S1 if you don’t remember. But I’m thinking Tom has to wear it to keep himself steady now that he’s apparently been on Ozempic. Remember that Mobius (Owen) was literally helping him walk throughout the episode? 🤔
Time has to be created by someone or something outside of time and the universe has to be created by someone or something outside the universe. The TVA doesn't fit either of those descriptions really. In any case it is staffed by people from the universe who were born at points in time. So yeah like you said the time loom doesn't work.
It's ironic that Kang is the perfect Villain for these lame writers though.
They can just write him getting defeated like they do with every villain right out the gate, and it won't matter cause there's infinite of him.
This show constantly forgets (or, rather, ignores) that Loki is a god. It treats him like an ordinary, weak human.
Remember when he fought *Thor* one-on-one and owned Captain America?
You forgot he's a frost giant.
@@erikhermansen3431 No I didn't. I remember all of the good MCU movies.