53:10 Ezio: "I was working with my mom against my sister who was turkey and then I got brutally stabbed by my mother" Wow, Can't believe you dropped Ezio's villain origin story!
I was the Italy in this game, and if anyone is wondering, both the opening and the final Venice “stab” were arranged. The opening (which I affectionately called the Austrian’s Aground opening) was the first bit of press that was actually decided for me since I spoke to Austria first. As for the stab, that was something we did to get the French to stab the German, because the German was absolutely unwilling to turn against the French unless they were stabbed. Both worked out brilliantly and made an already fun tournament a blast to play in. Thanks again to CaptainMeme and Ezio for hosting!
@@yaitz3313 Not at that point, but eventually, yes. I was at a point in the game where I was stalemated on two fronts and didn’t see a viable way for me to expand besides opening up the front against the French. The only problem was that we waited too long and it took too long for the front to mobilize. If it had been a no deadline game I would’ve tried for a win, but given the time limit I felt I’d rather help my ally win than try for a win and just lose to the French.
Hello hello! Turkey here, finally back to gaze upon the barren wasteland my country has become after taking a bit of time to collect my thoughts. This was my first tournament experience, and it was a blast. No idea how i managed to qualify to the final and i doubt that i should've, but hey, i got there, so i may have done something right! Don't think i have much to talk about in the final game itself, so let me give y'all a few key lessons i am gonna be taking away with myself from this. 1) Talk. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Talk with everyone you can and can't get your hands on (more on that later). If you are not talking with someone, chances are they are gonna be talking about you. Most of the finals i was sitting alone (more on that later), most of the semis i was talking, the difference was a bit staggering. You have nothing to talk about? Does not matter. They could be having ideas to showcase to you. Heck, i'll highlight it. a) If you see someone alone, go chat them up! Goodwill goes a long way, be it trying to console a dying Turkey on the other side of the map or helping to solve tech issues for Bradley while nothing else is happening. Be a human! It's much harder to stab a human than a nebulous noone you haven't talked to during the game. The best defence is a line of units. The second best defence is all the emotional damage you can force them to take by stabbing you. 2) Politeness has a limit. I was too polite. At least, that's the biggest reason i can come up with for getting dismantled so rapidly that is focused inward. The easiest way to point it out is a mathematical truth bomb. Seven is not an even number. Seven does not divide by two evenly. THERE WILL BE SOMEONE LEFT ALONE. DO NOT BE THE ONE LEFT ALONE. ESPECIALLY NOT WHEN ALL YOUR NEIGHBOURS ARE CHATTING EACH OTHER UP IN A CIRCLE. Butt in! It is ok to butt in. It is expected, really. Most of the conversations i tried to strike up with anyone were interrupted by someone else jumping in with "yo can i chat with X really quick?" And what did i say, the polite dumbass that i am? "Yeah sure *yosh leaves voice channel*" DO NOT STOP THE CHAT UNTIL YOU SAID WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY! to a limit. We are still polite, after all. here's a magic phrase : "Sure, just give me a minute" Use it. USE IT. A LOT. Don't hog the other person for the entire phase, especially in the phase of the game where everything is in the air. But if they are hard to get your hands on, do not let them go until you've said everything you needed to tell them. NEVER. STAY. ALONE. --- Thanks for the tournament! Here's looking towards getting brutally discombobulated in the third Gauntlet, whenever it may happen.
Ezio: I don't really do grimy plays. Meme: tells a story about abusing website mechanics Ezio: No, that's not grimy. I do things like that five times a game. Wow, I wonder why Ezio doesn't have any grimy plays to share.
“The stabs I enjoy most now are when I don’t like somebody … like when I have work with someone I don’t like… and that’s a bad thing to be clear”- Ezio describing me when I take all the credit in a group project where I did all the work 😂3:57:05
Speaking of those dune power I played in that game they were a lot of fun. Had kind of a crazy level of lack of balance and if a meta formed I'm sure it wouldn't be as balanced. But as we were all learning and didn't have it figured out it was a delightfully crazy experience. He got most right. here's what they were and the final postions based on final SC count. 1. After moves can volunteer to retreat any number of units. 2. Once a season support anywhere. 3. Once per year free convoy to anywhere. (Not just sea as etsio suggests) 4. View everyone's orders before making yours. 5. Once a year choose an order for a unit. 6. On build phase can build on enemy unit dislodging it. I was #1 there. I basically took over all 6's centers. Other powers were basically happy for me to do that because I think we all fears the snowball of him building on their supply centers. We all couldn't decide if it was just too weak from that or maybe in another game they snowball better and go nuts. My power was I think slept on a bit initially by myself included, I could move very fast and essentially get a 2nd move that goes after I see your move. Also essentially a minor version of #4 power where if a 50/50 situation happens I could just not move then retreat to where you didn't defend. #2 is very strong. He is a desirable ally and very capable of defending himself or attacking. Probably should change to just a support hold or support attack. both was a little strong every turn. We were basically even the whole game and allied I just was able to grab an extra SC to end with a higher count than him. #3 did alright iirc. His power didn't come up huge. He did use it to enter home SCs of #2 at one point. But as he had support and I had lots of movement we were able to get back and force disband it quickly. His power was oppressive in that you had to have a plan to defend from it so your rear even in a corner didn't feel super safe. But don't think it had as great an impact as others. #4 was on opposite side of map most of game. But they seemed to use it decently well. It wasn't as crazy as you might expect though from my view. #5 was a very strong power and they were decently influential they were just in the center of the board and thus kind of got hit on all sides similar to how austria gets. Interesting idea to give a really strong power to a worse board position. It had a rough final few turns I believe it spent most of the game doing well though. #6 probably had the weakest power, just because they have to already get a win to ever use it. Which no player ever wants to let them do. I don't think they used it once and were the only power to die. Maybe if we played more rounds there would be less initial worry about them.
3:56:47 "The stabbing(s) werent ss enjoyable as they were, as a teenager," Least Violent British Male™.. and Ezio, calmly laughing and discussing their lack of humanity
53:10
Ezio: "I was working with my mom against my sister who was turkey and then I got brutally stabbed by my mother"
Wow, Can't believe you dropped Ezio's villain origin story!
I was the Italy in this game, and if anyone is wondering, both the opening and the final Venice “stab” were arranged. The opening (which I affectionately called the Austrian’s Aground opening) was the first bit of press that was actually decided for me since I spoke to Austria first. As for the stab, that was something we did to get the French to stab the German, because the German was absolutely unwilling to turn against the French unless they were stabbed. Both worked out brilliantly and made an already fun tournament a blast to play in. Thanks again to CaptainMeme and Ezio for hosting!
Was it throwing to Austria when you let them into Venice, or did you still think you could win somehow?
@@yaitz3313 Not at that point, but eventually, yes. I was at a point in the game where I was stalemated on two fronts and didn’t see a viable way for me to expand besides opening up the front against the French. The only problem was that we waited too long and it took too long for the front to mobilize. If it had been a no deadline game I would’ve tried for a win, but given the time limit I felt I’d rather help my ally win than try for a win and just lose to the French.
Italy attacks France, it fails, Italy attacks France again, it fails. Okay Austria you can win.
- The perspective of a totally unbiased Frenchman 😜
@@bradleygrace7783 A tale as old as time
Hello hello!
Turkey here, finally back to gaze upon the barren wasteland my country has become after taking a bit of time to collect my thoughts.
This was my first tournament experience, and it was a blast. No idea how i managed to qualify to the final and i doubt that i should've, but hey, i got there, so i may have done something right!
Don't think i have much to talk about in the final game itself, so let me give y'all a few key lessons i am gonna be taking away with myself from this.
1) Talk.
Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
Talk with everyone you can and can't get your hands on (more on that later).
If you are not talking with someone, chances are they are gonna be talking about you.
Most of the finals i was sitting alone (more on that later), most of the semis i was talking, the difference was a bit staggering.
You have nothing to talk about? Does not matter. They could be having ideas to showcase to you. Heck, i'll highlight it.
a) If you see someone alone, go chat them up!
Goodwill goes a long way, be it trying to console a dying Turkey on the other side of the map or helping to solve tech issues for Bradley while nothing else is happening. Be a human! It's much harder to stab a human than a nebulous noone you haven't talked to during the game. The best defence is a line of units. The second best defence is all the emotional damage you can force them to take by stabbing you.
2) Politeness has a limit.
I was too polite.
At least, that's the biggest reason i can come up with for getting dismantled so rapidly that is focused inward.
The easiest way to point it out is a mathematical truth bomb.
Seven is not an even number.
Seven does not divide by two evenly.
THERE WILL BE SOMEONE LEFT ALONE.
DO NOT BE THE ONE LEFT ALONE.
ESPECIALLY NOT WHEN ALL YOUR NEIGHBOURS ARE CHATTING EACH OTHER UP IN A CIRCLE.
Butt in!
It is ok to butt in.
It is expected, really.
Most of the conversations i tried to strike up with anyone were interrupted by someone else jumping in with "yo can i chat with X really quick?"
And what did i say, the polite dumbass that i am?
"Yeah sure *yosh leaves voice channel*"
DO NOT STOP THE CHAT UNTIL YOU SAID WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY!
to a limit. We are still polite, after all.
here's a magic phrase :
"Sure, just give me a minute"
Use it.
USE IT. A LOT.
Don't hog the other person for the entire phase, especially in the phase of the game where everything is in the air.
But if they are hard to get your hands on, do not let them go until you've said everything you needed to tell them.
NEVER. STAY. ALONE.
---
Thanks for the tournament! Here's looking towards getting brutally discombobulated in the third Gauntlet, whenever it may happen.
Oh, and i am absolutely hoping my qualifier gets casted.
Board 3, y'all the goats, sorry for doing you dirty
o7
Ezio: I don't really do grimy plays.
Meme: tells a story about abusing website mechanics
Ezio: No, that's not grimy. I do things like that five times a game.
Wow, I wonder why Ezio doesn't have any grimy plays to share.
Id rather ally ezio than meme
Most games: one strong alliance is formed and sweeps the board, and it never breaks.
This game:
I can recommend their discord for first diplomacy games. I joined multiple of their backstabber and it's really fun and easy to join.
“The stabs I enjoy most now are when I don’t like somebody … like when I have work with someone I don’t like… and that’s a bad thing to be clear”- Ezio describing me when I take all the credit in a group project where I did all the work 😂3:57:05
Speaking of those dune power I played in that game they were a lot of fun. Had kind of a crazy level of lack of balance and if a meta formed I'm sure it wouldn't be as balanced. But as we were all learning and didn't have it figured out it was a delightfully crazy experience.
He got most right. here's what they were and the final postions based on final SC count.
1. After moves can volunteer to retreat any number of units.
2. Once a season support anywhere.
3. Once per year free convoy to anywhere. (Not just sea as etsio suggests)
4. View everyone's orders before making yours.
5. Once a year choose an order for a unit.
6. On build phase can build on enemy unit dislodging it.
I was #1 there. I basically took over all 6's centers. Other powers were basically happy for me to do that because I think we all fears the snowball of him building on their supply centers. We all couldn't decide if it was just too weak from that or maybe in another game they snowball better and go nuts.
My power was I think slept on a bit initially by myself included, I could move very fast and essentially get a 2nd move that goes after I see your move. Also essentially a minor version of #4 power where if a 50/50 situation happens I could just not move then retreat to where you didn't defend.
#2 is very strong. He is a desirable ally and very capable of defending himself or attacking. Probably should change to just a support hold or support attack. both was a little strong every turn. We were basically even the whole game and allied I just was able to grab an extra SC to end with a higher count than him.
#3 did alright iirc. His power didn't come up huge. He did use it to enter home SCs of #2 at one point. But as he had support and I had lots of movement we were able to get back and force disband it quickly. His power was oppressive in that you had to have a plan to defend from it so your rear even in a corner didn't feel super safe. But don't think it had as great an impact as others.
#4 was on opposite side of map most of game. But they seemed to use it decently well. It wasn't as crazy as you might expect though from my view.
#5 was a very strong power and they were decently influential they were just in the center of the board and thus kind of got hit on all sides similar to how austria gets. Interesting idea to give a really strong power to a worse board position. It had a rough final few turns I believe it spent most of the game doing well though.
#6 probably had the weakest power, just because they have to already get a win to ever use it. Which no player ever wants to let them do. I don't think they used it once and were the only power to die. Maybe if we played more rounds there would be less initial worry about them.
i am afraid i will have to unsubscribe from your channel, it just won't be the same without your channels third host (the siren)
i am indeed very saddened as the most prolific* timestamper of DiploSirens
*this is a nonqualifer and meaningless metric
I was in the thumbnail game
Oh wow, webdip has full-press bots.
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@@audiosurfarchivenope! Day 2 of commenting for a year to get w Minecraft Let’s Play.
3:56:47 "The stabbing(s) werent ss enjoyable as they were, as a teenager,"
Least Violent British Male™.. and Ezio, calmly laughing and discussing their lack of humanity