In the airlines we have a challenge/respond because at least 2 pilots are running through it. A single pilot operation can also use a flow because it isn't a DO check list, its a verify check list. I always followed the check list with my thumb... if the item isn't done because of waiting for something (fuel slip for instance) I wouldn't continue until that part of the check list was checked.
sounds good...but, you have an illegal checklist! You CANNOT use that checklist!!!!!! As a 40 yr plus DPE retired, I have issued many disapproval for this....the instruction must be change....so..in the future please refer to SAFO 17006...which stand for Safety Alert for Field Operators....that checkmate checklist is called COATS...unless the PIC has review each item line by line and it conforms to the POH/AFM etc...then it can be used.....
Indeed. Aircraft manufacturer styled checklists consistent with that contained in the aircraft flight manual and those procedures promulgated by an aviation authority/agency (such as the FAA) seem to be the only legitimate and reliable enough lists to use.
While I agree with your point, SAFO 17006 doesn’t seem regulatory (a notice to the risk of COTS checklists). Does this mean that you failed people for personal preference?
@@hawkpilot01 Pretty much goes without saying that if it's verbatim from approved aircraft manual or if it is a requirement promulgated by a duly authorized aviation agency then this has precedence and priority. Still (excerpt from the SAFO website): "SAFOs frequently contain recommended action to be accomplished by operators." Advisory as opposed to mandatory. Perhaps people WERE failed on the basis of personal preference.
I was not aware of this SAFO so thank you. But after reading it, his checklist is absolutely legal and may be just fine as per SAFO 17006 language: “Recommended Action: Pilots and operators, other than those operating an aircraft under 14 CFR Part 121 or 135 that choose to use COTS or personally developed checklists should meticulously compare them to the manufacturer’s checklist and placards contained in the POH/AFM to confirm they are consistent.”
You present the information clearly and succinctly. Thank you!
In the airlines we have a challenge/respond because at least 2 pilots are running through it. A single pilot operation can also use a flow because it isn't a DO check list, its a verify check list. I always followed the check list with my thumb... if the item isn't done because of waiting for something (fuel slip for instance) I wouldn't continue until that part of the check list was checked.
Good video thanks
sounds good...but, you have an illegal checklist! You CANNOT use that checklist!!!!!! As a 40 yr plus DPE retired, I have issued many disapproval for this....the instruction must be change....so..in the future please refer to SAFO 17006...which stand for Safety Alert for Field Operators....that checkmate checklist is called COATS...unless the PIC has review each item line by line and it conforms to the POH/AFM etc...then it can be used.....
Indeed. Aircraft manufacturer styled checklists consistent with that contained in the aircraft flight manual and those procedures promulgated by an aviation authority/agency (such as the FAA) seem to be the only legitimate and reliable enough lists to use.
While I agree with your point, SAFO 17006 doesn’t seem regulatory (a notice to the risk of COTS checklists). Does this mean that you failed people for personal preference?
@@hawkpilot01 Pretty much goes without saying that if it's verbatim from approved aircraft manual or if it is a requirement promulgated by a duly authorized aviation agency then this has precedence and priority.
Still (excerpt from the SAFO website): "SAFOs frequently contain recommended action to be accomplished by operators."
Advisory as opposed to mandatory. Perhaps people WERE failed on the basis of personal preference.
I was not aware of this SAFO so thank you. But after reading it, his checklist is absolutely legal and may be just fine as per SAFO 17006 language:
“Recommended Action: Pilots and operators, other than those operating an aircraft under 14 CFR Part 121 or 135 that choose to use COTS or personally developed checklists should meticulously compare them to the manufacturer’s checklist and placards contained in the POH/AFM to confirm they are consistent.”