Used Mike at Motech for my Auto M135i track car/road car and they are the best tuning company I've dealt with. So helpful. Had the suspension with Bilstein and Springs on a non-active car and it was a revelation to the handling, but the ride was on a different level. Which is the worst thing about M-lites ... the bounce and weave. Spacers (12mm all round on mine at Mikes recommendation) made an immediate difference to turn in and balance at speed with wider track. Love the sound the filter makes ... the Turbo whoosh is intoxicating and like you say you don't hear that so much nowadays, makes you smile and has made a good car great ! Already done two track days and it's been epic, humbled a few serious cars (mine has been re-mapped to 400bhp with bigger intercooler).
Joe you are without doubt the best reviewer on TH-cam. Love your driving clips, detailed reviews and depth of car knowledge. You the man Jo, keep your reviews coming!
I think the diff is a must. I totally agree, I lowered my R32 the same amount. It does make a difference. Wanted to add spacers for a while now, but have been dubious, as I'd heard scary stories, and unless it was going to make a noticeable difference wasn't going to do it. Spacers now ordered. Good to see another 135i video.
Hi joe, bit late to the party but found your vids when having chemotherapy earlier this year.thankfully I’m finally in remission now and decided to buy myself a 2014 m135i last week to celebrate my new lease of life. I was hoping to get the springs and spacers done similar to yourself and noticed you said in the motech fitting vid that your spacers were 15mm and 12mm but in this vid you said 12mm and 10mm. I actually asked a local bm garage if he could fit the 15mm/12mm and he suggested sticking to no wider than 12mm on the back as 15mm would adversely effect the handling. Anyway hope you see this question and thanks so much for the content it really boosted me on some of the darkest days.✊️
As always a great video. Thanks to your reviews I am now the proud owner of a M135i. It's the most fun/practical car I've ever owned so again thank you.
I had the spring/spacer set up done by Motech as well and I concur with Joe that you can notice an immediate improvement over the standard set up which is not the best.
Great video, very well put together. I’d kind of fallen out of love with my M140 and it felt like it was never a true M car, especially after owning two previous E46 M3’s. Maybe with some similar mods to my 140i, I might fall in love with it again. Top marks Joe 👍
Looking forward to getting the springs and spacers on my M135i! I currently have straight pipe, ER charge pipe, BMS intake, JB4.. need some yellow stuff too! Great vid man! Keep up the good work 💪💪
Another great review Joe !! keep them coming, much more interesting than a lot of other vloggers on here! Real world, real money, real cars. Motech done a great job by the sound of that.
I’ve done a few upgrades to my m135i, including spacers and I have some springs on the way at the mo. Looking forward to getting the springs put in, especially after seeing this video.
I'm about to buy an M135i from the UK(I live in Kenya)in almost the same spec as yours(Id like a black one) and the info you give on mods is the best Ive come across. I'll do the exact same mods at Motech. Thank you @Joeachilles
Another top video, baby M light definitely on my list of next cars finances allowing, and all thanks to the sterling work you are doing, keep it up Sir 🤙🏼
Lovin 7.17 lol, really interesting video, can't be any other car which can be as much fun or as effective for the price. Great video Joe, as usual. cheers matey.
Super enjoyed seeing you keep up with the big boys. You are spot on re the suspension. Why did it take you so long? Make sure TRL does the springs first before silly boy spoilers and exhaust!
Keep those sunnies on yo! Gotta protect them eyeballz!! Joe u needa see aboot getting a 140i/240i with xdrive out in some snowy conditions this winter u'll enjoy that haha! Just got!to try mine out 2day in some slick snow and sorta icy roads -12C with pilot alpin's on. In sport it let a slight slip at the rear.. Sports+ tho let it get quite fun, back end came round quite nice!! Loved the vid.. Ill probs be doin up a tune quite similar to urs next spring
Very informative and enjoyable to watch. Keep doing your thing! If you are planning a trip to the 'Ring next year, let me know. Would love to meet you in person! :)
Hi Joe, great video - interesting subject and very well shot. Glad it feels like a new car again ! Sorry, boring question - what do Motech advise with regard to updating your insurance ?? As you know you have to be careful on insurance these days as they look for any excuse not to pay out if possible...
Great stuff Joe! I have been thinking about getting some new springs for my 335i, but as we have a lot of speed bumps around where I live, I have been hesitant. Have you noticed any problems with the car scratching against the road in certain instances?
Considering an M135i for when I sell my E30 M3 and have been looking at potential mods as stock cars don't really interest me. Do Motech do a diff' conversion?
Great video pal. What’s the air filter you had fitted? I’ve been looking for a while for my m235i. Always hear horror stories about maf sensors with K&Ns, foam filters breaking away etc... interested to hear what you decided on. Cheers
Looking at doing similar mods to you on my M140i.....but looking down the JB route. Would you say the spacers are a defo if I get the springs? Great vid dude, keep up the work!
Very nice done! Do you know to which sensors the tuning box is connected? There are different boxes out there, some are just changing one sensor, some are up to three. Appreciate your work!
Hi Joe, good vid. Maybe I'm getting old, but the driving in the Pistonheads clips tour wasn't especially good driving (not from you per se as you were following). As you know, if you can't come to an absolute halt within your line of sight it's game over. I love driving, but the feeling from a lot of TH-cam content recently (LLF, SOL, etc.) makes me feel that there is a big accident coming that will eventually wreck it for us that drive at 8/10ths on the road. Don't get me wrong, I have sold the kit you were following and love them, but just worry about the state of driving on the road. There are track days if you want to stick it in the kitty litter....I'm sure I will get slated by parties that haven't been on the receiving end of a Berk with no foresight....
Just had a watch of this after your M140i vid, all very interesting and good stuff! I’m very very torn between keeping the m235i automatic and having work done, or going for a similar m140i to you except in manual and having work done on that. Will be very interested to see what you do to the m140i to hopefully make a decision xD would you have any advice to which would be the most ‘fun’ and driver friendly car?
Nice video again Joe, thanx for that! Ps after the power upgrade; I guess youre up from 321 ps / 450 Nm up to....350 ps and 500 Nm? Is that correct, more or less? Thanx again, Martijn
Hi Joe, Great info on Motech mods and love yourvideo on it. I am keely interested in the Motech but what happnes to BMW factory warranty if you are to do it on a new car?
The only reservations I'd have about dropping my suspension, is the state of the roads in the UK, bumps and pot holes everywhere, did you find that an issue on this motor by dropping it 25mm, or am I worrying too much?
Great vid Joe! May have missed this question in other comments but if you have an mlite on a pcp do these kind of upgrades void warranties or are BMW typically ok? Not sure if anyone has investigated.
Hi Joe. Just need some advice. I currently drive an EP3 type R,love it but I also want another run around. What would you say is more suitable for daily driving between the M2 and the M135i??
Hi, I’ve just purchased a bmw m135i 3door, which is the best front splitter to put on the car to make it look more aggressive? Would also like to add a carbon spoiler. Thanks.
Hi Joe, I have an m135i exactly the same as this and just wondering what size spacers you went for as I’m just about to order the motech springs. One of your vids says 15mm rear and 12 mm front and another states 12mm rear and 10mm front. Any help on this would be appreciated👍 Many thanks.
lowering springs don't improve a cars handling. if you think so then you are fooled. the stronger spring rate can make it feel more rigid, but on all bmw lowering the car will bring the centre of gravity further away from the roll centre which means that the car rolls with more leverage. More roll means less grip in the dry and actually requires you to mount a bit stiffer anti roll bars.
This is the worst comment I’ve ever seen 😂 not only are you completely wrong but you don’t actually make sense! I’ve your going to say something make sure you have a point. Dumbass
I love people making themselves look like stupid pricks in the comment section, it's a great space to advertise their lack of knowledge. Maybe I should award a king of the bell ends comment each month... This wins Novemeber 👏
Roll occurs due to the mass of the vehicle rotating around the centroid or center of mass of the car, hence larger vehicles and SUV's exhibiting a lot of roll in corners since their center of mass sits higher than saloons and hatchbacks. This is why manufacturers are using the adaptive suspension to essentially prop cars up in corners. Lowering a car reduces the center of mass, and hence, roll. This means force is transferred more evenly to all four wheels and it corners better. I'm not sure where you get your information from?
ECU's on these types of cars need to be removed and opened up in order to map. At least with the tuning unit Joe will be able to take it from this car to the next! =D
Is tuning cars legal in the UK? In Sweden its illegal unless you somehow can get the manufacturer to give you a permit to re-register the car with the new power output (which they rarely do)
Hi Joe. Just bought my first M135i thanks to you!! Bloody love it! Best car I've ever had!
Used Mike at Motech for my Auto M135i track car/road car and they are the best tuning company I've dealt with. So helpful. Had the suspension with Bilstein and Springs on a non-active car and it was a revelation to the handling, but the ride was on a different level. Which is the worst thing about M-lites ... the bounce and weave. Spacers (12mm all round on mine at Mikes recommendation) made an immediate difference to turn in and balance at speed with wider track. Love the sound the filter makes ... the Turbo whoosh is intoxicating and like you say you don't hear that so much nowadays, makes you smile and has made a good car great ! Already done two track days and it's been epic, humbled a few serious cars (mine has been re-mapped to 400bhp with bigger intercooler).
Joe you are without doubt the best reviewer on TH-cam. Love your driving clips, detailed reviews and depth of car knowledge.
You the man Jo, keep your reviews coming!
I think the diff is a must. I totally agree, I lowered my R32 the same amount. It does make a difference. Wanted to add spacers for a while now, but have been dubious, as I'd heard scary stories, and unless it was going to make a noticeable difference wasn't going to do it. Spacers now ordered. Good to see another 135i video.
Drives off into the sunset with the needle buried, just awesome. Another great video Joe, ty.
Great honest review joe I'm going to call motech tomorrow to order the same mods because of you vid keep up the work
Speed force Sim Racer awesome !
I love the freedom of the vids mate. So much better than these so called professional shows on TV, which come across uncomfortable and forced.
Hi joe, bit late to the party but found your vids when having chemotherapy earlier this year.thankfully I’m finally in remission now and decided to buy myself a 2014 m135i last week to celebrate my new lease of life. I was hoping to get the springs and spacers done similar to yourself and noticed you said in the motech fitting vid that your spacers were 15mm and 12mm but in this vid you said 12mm and 10mm. I actually asked a local bm garage if he could fit the 15mm/12mm and he suggested sticking to no wider than 12mm on the back as 15mm would adversely effect the handling. Anyway hope you see this question and thanks so much for the content it really boosted me on some of the darkest days.✊️
Keep hustling those supercars, Joe! Testament in itself to the Motech mods. Top vid.
Thanks mate glad your happy ..! See you on the next one !!
Whats the cost for everything joe had done?
Alex Argiropoulos springs are £205
12/15mm spacers £200
Fitting £240
Pipercross filter £37.95
Ebc yellow stuff pads £170 fronts + fitting
Remus £520 all in mate
Thanks, I basically want to drive in and have it all done bar the break pads. Can you give the exact cost for it all fitted?
Alex Argiropoulos £1400 all in mate
Perfect! I will be in contact. Thanks
As always a great video. Thanks to your reviews I am now the proud owner of a M135i. It's the most fun/practical car I've ever owned so again thank you.
I had the spring/spacer set up done by Motech as well and I concur with Joe that you can notice an immediate improvement over the standard set up which is not the best.
Dream car ATM m135i 8 speed 5 door... with the same upgrades you've done... best mix of everything
Loved how you started out the video, gave me the chills! Great video man.
Great video, very well put together. I’d kind of fallen out of love with my M140 and it felt like it was never a true M car, especially after owning two previous E46 M3’s.
Maybe with some similar mods to my 140i, I might fall in love with it again.
Top marks Joe 👍
Another great video Joe. I wonder how many people, like me when straight to the Motech website after watching that?
Lots haha
Spot on, a little pocket rocket! Gutted we didn’t get to go out on the ring!
Looking forward to getting the springs and spacers on my M135i! I currently have straight pipe, ER charge pipe, BMS intake, JB4.. need some yellow stuff too! Great vid man! Keep up the good work 💪💪
Another great review Joe !! keep them coming, much more interesting than a lot of other vloggers on here! Real world, real money, real cars. Motech done a great job by the sound of that.
That intro shot was epic
I’ve done a few upgrades to my m135i, including spacers and I have some springs on the way at the mo. Looking forward to getting the springs put in, especially after seeing this video.
I always fit Eibach uprated springs on my beemers, usually with matching ARBs & Bilstein B8s. Great quality
keeping up with the last generation of supercars on the road. nutty
You keep getting better, this is a great video..I just wish that you review more cars that are not bmw/mini if you can get your hands on them
I'm about to buy an M135i from the UK(I live in Kenya)in almost the same spec as yours(Id like a black one) and the info you give on mods is the best Ive come across. I'll do the exact same mods at Motech. Thank you @Joeachilles
The awesome footage in the beginning was already worth a 👍, Such scenery wow.
First time viewer, great stuff, thanks, subscribed.
Definitely - the springs improve the ride as well. Had 2 sets now - 330d and M-lite - both managed that trick.
Cheers for the video & recommendation Joe. Had the work done just before Christmas, the guys @ Motech are great & the car is epic!!
Another top vid, Keep them coming Joe. Some amazing roads on there.
Cool video Joe, loving that still pic halfway through the video.
Quality as always Joe 👏. Must be annoying having to drive with the sunroof open all the time so you can fit in. 😏
Good review mate given it a new lease of life im sure it could handle more upgrades just go to show how good bmw engineering is 👌
Another top video, baby M light definitely on my list of next cars finances allowing, and all thanks to the sterling work you are doing, keep it up Sir 🤙🏼
Interesting report on the mods. Great video as usual.
Nice to hear you love the car . Nice end photo . Keep blogging :)
Been looking forward to this review.
Lovin 7.17 lol, really interesting video, can't be any other car which can be as much fun or as effective for the price. Great video Joe, as usual. cheers matey.
so grateful for this channel. I am getting one an M light as soon as my insurance resets fucking excited as fuck.
Great video again dude 👍
Super enjoyed seeing you keep up with the big boys. You are spot on re the suspension. Why did it take you so long? Make sure TRL does the springs first before silly boy spoilers and exhaust!
haha He is going for the lot in one
Keep those sunnies on yo! Gotta protect them eyeballz!!
Joe u needa see aboot getting a 140i/240i with xdrive out in some snowy conditions this winter u'll enjoy that haha! Just got!to try mine out 2day in some slick snow and sorta icy roads -12C with pilot alpin's on. In sport it let a slight slip at the rear.. Sports+ tho let it get quite fun, back end came round quite nice!!
Loved the vid.. Ill probs be doin up a tune quite similar to urs next spring
Very informative and enjoyable to watch. Keep doing your thing! If you are planning a trip to the 'Ring next year, let me know. Would love to meet you in person! :)
Hi Joe, great video - interesting subject and very well shot. Glad it feels like a new car again ! Sorry, boring question - what do Motech advise with regard to updating your insurance ?? As you know you have to be careful on insurance these days as they look for any excuse not to pay out if possible...
Rod Thompson always tell them
Hi Joe, another great video, I keep watching them over and over, just wandering if the JB4 mod is better or same as you've had fitted?
Andrew Lee about the same , jb4 is better if you want a de cat tho
Them roads. Oh my
Great stuff Joe! I have been thinking about getting some new springs for my 335i, but as we have a lot of speed bumps around where I live, I have been hesitant.
Have you noticed any problems with the car scratching against the road in certain instances?
Considering an M135i for when I sell my E30 M3 and have been looking at potential mods as stock cars don't really interest me. Do Motech do a diff' conversion?
Great video pal. What’s the air filter you had fitted? I’ve been looking for a while for my m235i. Always hear horror stories about maf sensors with K&Ns, foam filters breaking away etc... interested to hear what you decided on. Cheers
Pipercross mate £37,95 we sell heaps of them
Looking at doing similar mods to you on my M140i.....but looking down the JB route. Would you say the spacers are a defo if I get the springs? Great vid dude, keep up the work!
Daniel Kelly defo do them together mate
Very nice done! Do you know to which sensors the tuning box is connected? There are different boxes out there, some are just changing one sensor, some are up to three. Appreciate your work!
Hi Joe, good vid. Maybe I'm getting old, but the driving in the Pistonheads clips tour wasn't especially good driving (not from you per se as you were following). As you know, if you can't come to an absolute halt within your line of sight it's game over. I love driving, but the feeling from a lot of TH-cam content recently (LLF, SOL, etc.) makes me feel that there is a big accident coming that will eventually wreck it for us that drive at 8/10ths on the road. Don't get me wrong, I have sold the kit you were following and love them, but just worry about the state of driving on the road. There are track days if you want to stick it in the kitty litter....I'm sure I will get slated by parties that haven't been on the receiving end of a Berk with no foresight....
Just had a watch of this after your M140i vid, all very interesting and good stuff!
I’m very very torn between keeping the m235i automatic and having work done, or going for a similar m140i to you except in manual and having work done on that.
Will be very interested to see what you do to the m140i to hopefully make a decision xD would you have any advice to which would be the most ‘fun’ and driver friendly car?
Nice video again Joe, thanx for that!
Ps after the power upgrade; I guess youre up from 321 ps / 450 Nm up to....350 ps and 500 Nm?
Is that correct, more or less?
Thanx again, Martijn
Hi Joe, Great info on Motech mods and love yourvideo on it. I am keely interested in the Motech but what happnes to BMW factory warranty if you are to do it on a new car?
Love your car‼️
Hi Joe love the videos just a quick one have you ever driven any of the birds bmw cars with their upgrades ?
Thks.
The only reservations I'd have about dropping my suspension, is the state of the roads in the UK, bumps and pot holes everywhere, did you find that an issue on this motor by dropping it 25mm, or am I worrying too much?
Jas F it’s fine mate 👍
Great vid Joe! May have missed this question in other comments but if you have an mlite on a pcp do these kind of upgrades void warranties or are BMW typically ok? Not sure if anyone has investigated.
Have a chat with your dealer mate
Hi Joe. Just need some advice. I currently drive an EP3 type R,love it but I also want another run around. What would you say is more suitable for daily driving between the M2 and the M135i??
INDEED LONG LIVE THE M LITE'S
Hi, I’ve just purchased a bmw m135i 3door, which is the best front splitter to put on the car to make it look more aggressive? Would also like to add a carbon spoiler. Thanks.
Hi Joe,
I have an m135i exactly the same as this and just wondering what size spacers you went for as I’m just about to order the motech springs. One of your vids says 15mm rear and 12 mm front and another states 12mm rear and 10mm front. Any help on this would be appreciated👍
Many thanks.
Exhaust next, Joe?
Does the Remus powerizer effect the manufactures warranty joe?
Does the suspension setup void the warranty?
Nice video. Are those progressive springs?
Lingwei William Tao yep
How did the increase power an torque affect the mpg
All down to your right foot :-)
Where is your M2 mate?
so how much power is it pushing ?
Joe do you get any scrape cause of the spacers and also does the spacers ruin the drive on the twisty roads
F Anwar nope mate all good
Motech Performance thanks so would you say same results for AUDI RS3 2016 no scrape at the back wheel and no ruining the ride on the twisty roads
F Anwar defo set of Eibach’s and spacers 12mm x 4 will be perfect
Motech Performance nice one last question the eibach springs for the RS3 what drop are they front/rear mm wise ?
Drop me an e mail mate will work it all out .. info@motechperformance.co.uk
Thanks
The love ended 7 days after lol
lowering springs don't improve a cars handling. if you think so then you are fooled. the stronger spring rate can make it feel more rigid, but on all bmw lowering the car will bring the centre of gravity further away from the roll centre which means that the car rolls with more leverage. More roll means less grip in the dry and actually requires you to mount a bit stiffer anti roll bars.
This is the worst comment I’ve ever seen 😂 not only are you completely wrong but you don’t actually make sense! I’ve your going to say something make sure you have a point. Dumbass
+inorbit64 haha brilliant mate, keep taking those pills
I love people making themselves look like stupid pricks in the comment section, it's a great space to advertise their lack of knowledge. Maybe I should award a king of the bell ends comment each month... This wins Novemeber 👏
Joe Achilles it’s only November 5th and this knob end has already won 😂
Roll occurs due to the mass of the vehicle rotating around the centroid or center of mass of the car, hence larger vehicles and SUV's exhibiting a lot of roll in corners since their center of mass sits higher than saloons and hatchbacks. This is why manufacturers are using the adaptive suspension to essentially prop cars up in corners. Lowering a car reduces the center of mass, and hence, roll. This means force is transferred more evenly to all four wheels and it corners better. I'm not sure where you get your information from?
Why didn’t you take the M2 to the ring etc?
Because the guy I sold it to (13 months ago) probably wouldn't have wanted me to.
Joe, do you mind me asking how much the Motech tuning package was please?
Thanks in advance.
It’s on our website mate
Air filter just the pipercross replacement filter mentioned on Motech website?
Yep £37.95 mate
Why did you go for the tuning box over a straight remap?
ECU's on these types of cars need to be removed and opened up in order to map. At least with the tuning unit Joe will be able to take it from this car to the next! =D
Is tuning cars legal in the UK? In Sweden its illegal unless you somehow can get the manufacturer to give you a permit to re-register the car with the new power output (which they rarely do)
Who the hell disliked this video?
Must be the thrill of being first...it certainly wasn't the video.
A Golf R owner
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