3:30 Ford Motor Co. Europe really made a huge mistake by not making the road going homolegated version available for sale in the Australian market, if they had it would have been a case of "win on Sunday...sell out on Monday". Instead treating the Australian public to "look at how great and fast and powerful our little (GM)Holden killer is...but you can't have it!!"
I've seen a documentary on the Ford Sierra with Dick Johnson where they took the turbo off the race car, and it only made 90hp. Every time he jumped into the vehicle, he would reach to boost nob and put on max boost and shoot off into the race track. Some of these vehicles produce 650 hp for qualifying for 1st grid position.
As brittle as glass and only really "dominated" for a couple of years before being dominated by the Nissan GTR, the best Group A touring car ever built.
@ - if you only knew the truth . Speak to Allan Gow the 87 team manager - mick Webb the head mechanic or any of the other mechanics they will tell you the truth - Allan Grice and Larry Perkins were asked why they didn’t use 12” tyres like the Mobil cars - they both said legally they won’t fit . In 1982 ATCC - one car was scrutineered 6 times and was disqualified 6 times . 1988 rd 1 ATCC - disqualified for cheating . 1978 Sandown rd of ATCC Car 05 disqualified - cheating again which went back to Bathurst 1975. We can go on about 79 + 84 Bathursts - but it gets embarrassing and humiliating . I was friends with Brock - he was great with the spectators : but he would do anything to win .
@@Steveaustin007 He also used a back up car that had started out of position in 87, it was a home town decision. The Texaco Sierras were no faster than the local ANZ and OXO cars that were Rouse built from memory.
Dick Johnson said it was the worst race car he ever drove . Turbo lag made the power come on like a light switch, nothing then everything in a split second . He couldn't get on the gas too early through a corner because it would spin out in a Heartbeat. He hated it .
Cosworth wanted so use the Holset turbo with less lag and more safe boost with power coming on 1500 rpm earlier than the big T4 Garrett turbo . Unfortunately Ford had a contract with Garrett - because The Holset HX 35 would have been more efficient giving lap times 1.5 seconds quicker on a short circuit and as much as 4 seconds faster at Bathurst or , Spa
I was at Wanneroo Australia 1990, ATCC, Met Dick Johson and got a signed poster, Dicks car crashed due to Disc/rotor failure. Im a POME, (Prisoner of Mother England) that's the slag the Ozzies call us down there. I was with my cousins, great days....
The Eggenberger Texaco Sierras rolled the front guard lips to prevent cutting taller front tyres. They were not the only entrants to roll their guards, but it sure cost ‘em. The Texaco Sierras were bloody fast and would have likely won on legal wheels, tyres and front wheel arches, but they didn’t think it would be a big issue. BMW and Ford were breaking the same rules consistently in the World Touring Car Championship of 1987 without issue. Silly buggers, and a sad day for Ford fans. Dick Johnson wasn’t completely negative about the Sierra. I remember a few times when he lamented about how fast the Sierra was in comparison to the new V8 Supercar category, one time in particular he mentioned how the Sierra “really used to boogie” up and down the straights at Bathurst.
Why oh why was so much of the vision in this 'mirrored' ? ..... most of it wasn't even at Bathurst, but other circuits. Also, in the vast majority of the world it is litres, not liters and kilometres not kilometers.
Does anyone ever look at the TH-cam videos they made and think "That footage is flopped" (ie mirror image) and think to correct it prior to release, or is this a way to get around copyright? Looks very unprofessional, and this is full of footage like that. I love the RS500 and all about it, but had to turn it off after 0:36
The so called weapon in those days was really the Nissan R32 GTR that car was a ''weapon'' and did dominate Bathurst when they were allowed to race until they were banned.The Ford Sierra was a good car though just not good enough for Godzilla ask Dicky boy and Jim Richards .😂👍👍
The Sierra was good but the bores were fragile. Everyone split bores. Dick Johnson has his own engine building facility, and they worked out the main cap bolts lined up with head studs so drilled through the block and this braced the block and kept the head gaskets somewhere near the deck. Also this stopped bore twist somewhat plus much more. Also they tested one of their race enigines on the dyno bypassed the the turbo and made 110 horsepower or something then they turned over 620hp +. John Bowe Johnsons co driver thought it mental going from 110-620+ in an eye flash. Further the europeans that had the chip machines didn't play ball, so Johnson used a contact in rally circles to obtain one and opened up the injector cycles to whip it good, Devo. The GTR32 was the ultimate weapon at Bathurst nut the Sierra was formidable.
It didn't dominate though, it won half the years it competed. It dominated qualifying and DNF lists. The falcon coupe also only won half the years it competed but was more consistent at finishing.
That was the most entertaining video about the history of the Bathurst 1000 I have ever seen - I haven't stopped laughing in 10 minutes - this must be a parody !!! - but I will make two points 1- Bathurst is a very tribal race- usually blue oval V the lion. The ford fans hated the sierra, and the Longhurst sierra (1988 B&H - with Mezera - I was there) had a yellow oval (it's in the museum at hell corner if you want to check) 2- yes the Klauses dominated the WTCC - helped a lot by the fact they cheated. FISA suck! FISA suck! Crowd chant greeting Ludwig and neidwitz onto podium. (FISA - federation international sporting automobiles- now the FIA)
@@Fantomx7g6 the literal straw that broke the camel's back. Holden were pissed about every one getting a 6 SPD when only the Commodore had it. In the road car......... In the VL they realised by revving to 8500 they could beat the Sierra's at Bathurst... Hence the VN got a 6. SPD.... Same engine not needing to be reved so hard.....
@danieltynan5301 Didn't matter if the Commodore had a 6 speed or not...they just didn't have the HP to be competitive anymore...they were relics from the past that had no chance against the Sierra and even more so the GTR
1987 Bathurst was won by Peter Brock in a Holden Commodore and the sierra only won twice where the commodore won in 1986, 1987, 1990, and that is only the group A years sierra won twice the Nissan GTR won twice Jaguar won once so what car was really the dominant Bathurst racer in the group A years, get your facts straight before mouthing off
Hmmm, you mean the cheating Sierras that were all dqd? And Brock was awarded the win months after. Bloody terrible cars,, in car footage was just all wheelspin. And they fatigued a lot as well. The light switch power was a major part of that. The DJR ones were the best of the bunjch as it had a gearbox [Hollinger] and diff [Harrop] that could take the power. Unlike the factory components good for a stock 2 litre engine!
The secret weapon that took Bathurst by storm-the Ford Sierra RS500. What do you think made it so unstoppable?
The Sierra's are not the king of Bathurst, they were beaten by Commodores & Skylines.
@@noelwebb6843 The Sierras that "won" in 1987 were later disqualified for illegal, unhomologated bodywork,
3:30 Ford Motor Co. Europe really made a huge mistake by not making the road going homolegated version available for sale in the Australian market, if they had it would have been a case of "win on Sunday...sell out on Monday". Instead treating the Australian public to "look at how great and fast and powerful our little (GM)Holden killer is...but you can't have it!!"
The Cheese Grinder?
The toasted ham and cheese sandwich Steve had the night he invented the hood vents!
Who’s with me on this one?
Go wan ya bastard
The Sierra only had two "2" wins at Bathurst in 1988 & 1889.
True, they should have won 87 and 90 as well. But should of could of I guess.
I've seen a documentary on the Ford Sierra with Dick Johnson where they took the turbo off the race car, and it only made 90hp.
Every time he jumped into the vehicle, he would reach to boost nob and put on max boost and shoot off into the race track.
Some of these vehicles produce 650 hp for qualifying for 1st grid position.
@@erhanuzdilli9788 thanks for this information.
As brittle as glass and only really "dominated" for a couple of years before being dominated by the Nissan GTR, the best Group A touring car ever built.
The DJR cars produced 650hp in thier final Group A trim. He also won 2 ATCC titles in Serrias
Bathurst 1987 was the 10th win by Peter Brock in a Holden.
1987 was his 9th and last win not including the 24hr race.
Yeah - about 6 laps behind.
@Steveaustin007 when Brocky won by 6 laps he did without cheating, the Sierra's didn't so were disqualified.
@ - if you only knew the truth .
Speak to Allan Gow the 87 team manager - mick Webb the head mechanic or any of the other mechanics they will tell you the truth -
Allan Grice and Larry Perkins were asked why they didn’t use 12” tyres like the Mobil cars - they both said legally they won’t fit .
In 1982 ATCC - one car was scrutineered 6 times and was disqualified 6 times .
1988 rd 1 ATCC - disqualified for cheating .
1978 Sandown rd of ATCC Car 05 disqualified - cheating again which went back to Bathurst 1975.
We can go on about 79 + 84 Bathursts - but it gets embarrassing and humiliating .
I was friends with Brock - he was great with the spectators :
but he would do anything to win .
@@Steveaustin007 He also used a back up car that had started out of position in 87, it was a home town decision. The Texaco Sierras were no faster than the local ANZ and OXO cars that were Rouse built from memory.
1988 Tony Longhurst won Bathurst & first time a Sierra won at Bathurst...
Dick Johnson said it was the worst race car he ever drove . Turbo lag made the power come on like a light switch, nothing then everything in a split second . He couldn't get on the gas too early through a corner because it would spin out in a Heartbeat. He hated it .
I had an R33 GTS.T years ago i know what the turbo lag can be like and mine was running 7 lbs boost stock.
@@ChrisM-fz6xx thanks for that information.
@@Psittacine-pp5yd thanks for sharing your experience. 🙏
Cosworth wanted so use the Holset turbo with less lag and more safe boost with power coming on 1500 rpm earlier than the big T4 Garrett turbo .
Unfortunately Ford had a contract with Garrett - because The Holset HX 35 would have been more efficient giving lap times 1.5 seconds quicker on a short circuit and as much as 4 seconds faster at Bathurst or , Spa
Given the ridiculous boost that's not surprising......
I was at Wanneroo Australia 1990, ATCC, Met Dick Johson and got a signed poster, Dicks car crashed due to Disc/rotor failure. Im a POME, (Prisoner of Mother England) that's the slag the Ozzies call us down there. I was with my cousins, great days....
@@adrianpitt4211 thanks for sharing
The Texeco Sierras were disqualified from the Bathurst 1000 in1987 because of the octane was to high in there fuel they were using...
Actually, they were disqualified for body irregularities, specifically the front wheel arches. But yes, a Commodore won.
The Eggenberger Texaco Sierras rolled the front guard lips to prevent cutting taller front tyres. They were not the only entrants to roll their guards, but it sure cost ‘em. The Texaco Sierras were bloody fast and would have likely won on legal wheels, tyres and front wheel arches, but they didn’t think it would be a big issue. BMW and Ford were breaking the same rules consistently in the World Touring Car Championship of 1987 without issue. Silly buggers, and a sad day for Ford fans.
Dick Johnson wasn’t completely negative about the Sierra. I remember a few times when he lamented about how fast the Sierra was in comparison to the new V8 Supercar category, one time in particular he mentioned how the Sierra “really used to boogie” up and down the straights at Bathurst.
@@piglosthere was very little legal on those cars .... The body was obvious to everyone....
Also the extra four injectors weren’t connected when buying the road car from the dealer.
@@BritAcrossThePond thanks for sharing this additional info for us all.
@@BritAcrossThePond exactly correct. The race motor needed them. The road motor did not but got them for holimigation
Why oh why was so much of the vision in this 'mirrored' ? ..... most of it wasn't even at Bathurst, but other circuits.
Also, in the vast majority of the world it is litres, not liters and kilometres not kilometers.
@@brendanpratt7760 thank you for your feedback 🙏
Does anyone ever look at the TH-cam videos they made and think "That footage is flopped" (ie mirror image) and think to correct it prior to release, or is this a way to get around copyright? Looks very unprofessional, and this is full of footage like that. I love the RS500 and all about it, but had to turn it off after 0:36
it really annoyed me, so much mirrored it looked damn stupid and off putting.
Many of those vids were Goodwood not Bathurst!
@@huwgrossmith9555 oh thanks for pointing out!
Thank you for the feedback 🙏
Can you do make video about the Mercedes race car the Mercedes 190E Evolution 2.
@@raymondkoledoye9941 noted
@LegendaryRideCars Okay thank you I hope you make the video about the Mercedes 190E.
The so called weapon in those days was really the Nissan R32 GTR that car was a ''weapon'' and did dominate Bathurst when they were allowed to race until they were banned.The Ford Sierra was a good car though just not good enough for Godzilla ask Dicky boy and Jim Richards .😂👍👍
@@Psittacine-pp5yd yes 🙌 thanks for that. Well decisions always stops something or opens the door for something different.
The Sierra was good but the bores were fragile. Everyone split bores. Dick Johnson has his own engine building facility, and they worked out the main cap bolts lined up with head studs so drilled through the block and this braced the block and kept the head gaskets somewhere near the deck. Also this stopped bore twist somewhat plus much more. Also they tested one of their race enigines on the dyno bypassed the the turbo and made 110 horsepower or something then they turned over 620hp +. John Bowe Johnsons co driver thought it mental going from 110-620+ in an eye flash. Further the europeans that had the chip machines didn't play ball, so Johnson used a contact in rally circles to obtain one and opened up the injector cycles to whip it good, Devo. The GTR32 was the ultimate weapon at Bathurst nut the Sierra was formidable.
@ thank you for sharing this information. 🙏
Peter Brock won Bathurst in 1987...
The car car was disqualified for cheating. Even Dick Johnson’s famous fastest Sierra at Boddington was on Formuls One race fuel.
That’s not a rs500 @0:42
It didn't dominate though, it won half the years it competed. It dominated qualifying and DNF lists. The falcon coupe also only won half the years it competed but was more consistent at finishing.
That was the most entertaining video about the history of the Bathurst 1000 I have ever seen - I haven't stopped laughing in 10 minutes - this must be a parody !!! - but I will make two points 1- Bathurst is a very tribal race- usually blue oval V the lion. The ford fans hated the sierra, and the Longhurst sierra (1988 B&H - with Mezera - I was there) had a yellow oval (it's in the museum at hell corner if you want to check)
2- yes the Klauses dominated the WTCC - helped a lot by the fact they cheated.
FISA suck! FISA suck! Crowd chant greeting Ludwig and neidwitz onto podium.
(FISA - federation international sporting automobiles- now the FIA)
@@mattmatt-cx6yh thanks for your comment 😉
And then came Godzilla...the mighty R32 GTR and destroyed it...the Mountain killer
@@Fantomx7g6 the literal straw that broke the camel's back. Holden were pissed about every one getting a 6 SPD when only the Commodore had it. In the road car......... In the VL they realised by revving to 8500 they could beat the Sierra's at Bathurst... Hence the VN got a 6. SPD.... Same engine not needing to be reved so hard.....
@danieltynan5301 Didn't matter if the Commodore had a 6 speed or not...they just didn't have the HP to be competitive anymore...they were relics from the past that had no chance against the Sierra and even more so the GTR
1987 Bathurst was won by Peter Brock in a Holden Commodore and the sierra only won twice where the commodore won in 1986, 1987, 1990, and that is only the group A years sierra won twice the Nissan GTR won twice Jaguar won once so what car was really the dominant Bathurst racer in the group A years, get your facts straight before mouthing off
Hmmm, you mean the cheating Sierras that were all dqd? And Brock was awarded the win months after.
Bloody terrible cars,, in car footage was just all wheelspin. And they fatigued a lot as well. The light switch power was a major part of that.
The DJR ones were the best of the bunjch as it had a gearbox [Hollinger] and diff [Harrop] that could take the power. Unlike the factory components good for a stock 2 litre engine!
@@ldnwholesale8552 thank you for sharing your experience on that :)
AI written script?
@@GregStonham no we are a team and we have specialised people for each task. Why do you ask?