This reminds me of when Reed tricked Magneto with a wooden gun in that one old animated series. Bro straight up had a mental breakdown being held at gun point and not being able to use his powers on it. One of the goofiest moments for such a serious character
I actually have that cartoon on VHS. I was utterly shocked how Magneto surrendered and effectively stated he was useless without his powers. Yet, the police arrive with their metal vehicles and gun. Mr. Fantastic explained he had a wooden gun and tricked Magneto. Logically Magneto still had his magnetic powers, but still surrendered to the police and took him away, like he no longer had his powers.@@ForeveraBoss117
I want there to be an Seen in marvel where goons are sent to deal with magneto are wearing special tony stark iron man like suits that have protection and They describe it. And he says this line. Before he slaughters them all.
If I was tony stark, I absolutely would have a suit designed to fight the most powerful threats in the world, especially threats like mutants with powers that could control metal. If he didn’t, that would be the real plot buster.
@@forsaken7976 I mean, I get it. The guy thinks of everything and is always prepared. I'll argue that the most interesting Iron Man stories are the ones when he hasn't thought of everything and has to improvise a win. The "I have a suit for everything" solution is just lazy writing imo.
I mean that is why the two make for a good fight with one another as its not really about how is the more powerful in the situation but rather his the most creative with their given abilities. Iron Man is a genius who create tech that exceeds beyond human capabilities and is able to build MULTIPLE super powered armors for just about any occasions or countermeasures because he is that prepared. Meanwhile Magneto is considered a powerful mutant with the way he trained and honed in own his mutant abilities to so more than just manipulating metal around him (which gives him a sort of power lottery for whatever his needs).
Not unparalleled but close, Reed is still considered smarter then Stark. It's even referenced once where Stark basically makes everyone on earth on his level and redd says he feels slightly dumber xD.
Yea, why wouldn't he just move one of those into his brain or something? I'm sure his suit has some kind of dampening effect, but once magneto is amped by the sun and all that jazz, surely he could manage one force pull
@@redwhiteandtruth You don't understand Magneto at all, his powers allow him to control the entire Electromagnetic Force not just metals, meaning he can straight up absorb electricity from Iron-Mans armor, he's an Omega-level mutant above all things
@@redwhiteandtruthmagneto can straight up just strip the iron out of Tony’s blood if he felt like doing it. Or even use the energy from iron man’s own repulsar blasts as his own attacks
LOL, what a fool... Magneto doesnt just magnetize metal... he controls the whole electromagnetic spectrum.. if youd grasp what that entails, you would not have brought up that pathetic argument@@redwhiteandtruth
Seriously Rob? My whole thing about Megneto is when he grabbed/took control of Apocalypse iron content of his blood and shredded him from the inside out. Anybody who has iron in their blood is officially wrecked. Tony Stark included.
@IStevenSeagalApocalypse is definitely not made of metal or coated in it or anything. That's never been a thing. He's all flesh and blood AND he can control his body and composition. He could definitely alter himself to not need iron via mutant fuckery. If anything him doing it to Apocalypse just makes it MORE clear he should be doing it to anyone.
since all matter is made of atoms, which contain electrons, it stands to reason that magneto could easily defeat everyone he fights. I wonder why he doesn't do that. could it be that it isn't easy for him to exercise such a fine control of his abilities?
I think what was amazing and proof of Mag's Omega Levelness.. Was during the fight, after Tony siphoned from Jupiter, Mags starts musing on how he's Siphoning magnetic power from other Planets.. And the thing that distracted him was one of those planets dying.. Just.. Good lord if Mags can do that level of insanty with his powers.. he could throw whole Solar Systems into chaos.. Forget just destroying Earth! His only weakness then comes down to that he still needs to Breath, Eat, and Sleep.. IE He's still Human..
In the movies, Iron Man made his primary armor of titanium and gold. Neither of which is affected by magnetism like ferrous metals. Titanium and gold have virtually zero magnetic properties. They do carry electrical current very well though.
@@gravediggrrr5150 "doesnt matter, magneto can magnetize non ferrous metals. he doesnt control metal, he controls electrons." If that were true then he would have had zero problem breaking out of his plexiglass jail cell. But he did not. Care to take a guess at why not?
@@gravediggrrr5150 "@oldtimefarmboy617 care to explain why he can control ice? he effectively controls anything composed of polar molecules…" Water, and therefore ice, is a natural solvent, meaning it dissolves minerals without changing its composition. Ice, because it is solid, can hold more minerals than liquid water. So if the ice has a high concentration of magnetic minerals, say like IRON, he can control the iron in the ice and through the iron control the ice. Just like he can influence the small amount of iron in red blood cells. Pure water, H2O, would be devoid of minerals and not affected by magnetism at all. But that does not change the fact that he can not control plexiglass or wood or cotton or wool or plastics or anything else that is non ferrous or lacks any magnetic properties. The three elemental metals that are naturally ferromagnetic are iron, cobalt, and nickel. Compounds and alloys can also be magnetic if they contain iron, cobalt, or nickel, such as steel and stainless steel. Non-magnetic metals include aluminum, copper, lead, tin, TITANIUM, zinc, and alloys such as brass and bronze. And polar molecules have nothing to do with magnetism and everything to do with the strength of one elements covalent bond with another element.
Magneto is one of those mutants where, if you really stop to think about his power, he's damn near unstoppable, so it kinda puts the writers into a corner. Compare Magneto to the stand Metallica from JJBA. Risotto is the Mafia's best assassin because he can manipulate electromagnetism to form things out of the iron in your blood, such as him forming a pair of scissors in Dopio's neck. I'm sure Magneto could do the same and that's just one weak example. He could manipulate light etc. Very OP mutant power for sure.
I don't exactly remember the name of the channel but they do analyze his power. Just the way he can manipulate iron in blood requires power equal to a small black hole. And Magneto can do that easily. So... yeah. Magneto, in hard paper, has cataclysmic levels of power.
My guess is he doesn't really need to bring ammo since he can find ammo just about anywhere lol Just rip off some sheet metal from a building with his powers, mold it into an arrow-like shape and launch it at insane speed. Could do the same with rocks etc.
While I do generally love seeing arbitrary "X vs. Y" fights like Magneto vs. Iron Man, the Xmen vs. Avengers and related stories always remind me of maybe the biggest annoyance I have in comic book stories, when the plot essentially hinges on two groups or a few individuals just not talking to each other in anything resembling a rational manner. Yeah, I get it, these are super-powered people who rightfully think they can use their abilities to make any problem or opposition go their way, but when the plot entirely hinges on them being man-children, it often takes me out of it. I guess I'm just saying those are my least favorite sorts of stories.
These books are and always have been written for 12 year old boys (and their equivalent adult man children who actually buy them these days). There’s no widespread market of tweens or adults who will buy series of books of super powered people “talking it out.” The industry is built on pew pew pow. An intellectual debate might be good for a few issues or character piece. But when these characters can shoot lasers out of their eye balls, they’ll never be able to sustain sales by NOT letting them fight. But I agree with you, I would’ve hoped the comics industry might grow up with its audience. Not sure they or the audience have grown up.
😂😂We don't have super powers now and people now will still kill each other instead of having a discussion. Comics have a ton of issues but this is one thing they get right. If we all woke up tomorrow with various powers, 85-90% of the human population would let it go to their head (assuming they actually get a decent power)
Magneto could have made Iron Man the juicy center of giant Shipping Container Snickers bar but that wouldn't make for a good story where we need Iron Man to help at the end.
Why wouldn't magneto just cause the iron in iron man's blood to go racing off through him extremly fast all at once? Literally instant death. This fight was a mcguffin not because of Tony's toys but because the writer nerfed magnetos power like he isn't a powerful enough mutant TO OH I DONT KNOW HAVE HIS HEART MISSING YET BE ALIVE BECAUSE HE CAN PUMP HIS OWN BLOOD WITH HIS POWER
This time around Magneto isn't trying to be the bad guy or to kill Tony. Magneto is trying to stop Tony from making a mistake, as Magneto has done time and time again letting revenge cloud his judgement.
Magneto wouldnt need to touch Iron Mans suit... he could just interrupt his brain waves, he could suck the iron out of his body. Or a non metal suit, gets punched by thousands of metal shards that he pulls from the Earth.... he could kill Iron Man soo many ways, so fast this is just ridiculous.
Most of the fights in AvX were bs. Namor losing to Thing....in the WATER??? Magneto should easily stomp Ironman. Even with a suit not made of metal...Mags can affect the metal in his body. This is a prime example of the writers deciding the winner first and coming up with whatever means gets to that end. Most of AvX is just a waste.
Yeah. Leaving aside the weirdness of using satellites to harness magnetism (what?) it takes LIGHT minimum 35 minutes to travel from Jupiter to earth. He must have been planning this for a while.
I knew I couldn't be the only one that felt like this. The writing for AvX was Piss Poor! Thing beating Namor underwater alone is enough to throw the whole event out, but Iron Man beats Magneto solo when he's an X-Men-level threat to himself. Colossus as the juggernaut somehow not dragging Thing or Red Hulk. Cyclops vs Cap and Scott suddenly loses all tactical acumen and just shoots a basic beam straight at Caps Shield until he walks him down and shield bashes him lol. Gambit blows up the chest of Caps' armor then gets walked down, and that's after Cap knocks out Warpath lol. It was just bad on bad on bad
you are reading it all wrong it isn't that the fights were stupid it's the fights were written to make it so that the ones who made a new golden age come about *lost!!!* why??BECASUSE PEACE DOESN'T SELL COMICS!!!!
I always find it funny how Batman is considered so great because he's rich, has toys, and prep time. Yet, Ironman gets no credit even though he uses the same thing, except he's one of the smartest men on the planet. *Shrug*
The whole magneto satellite suit was kinda silly to me. Would have been better for the fight if magneto absorbed the powers of Jupiter that stark was channeling to enhance his own magnetic power. Writers normally does magneto like surfer , which is they have so many other feats that they can do but only show them doing the basics. In this battle he could have shut Iron man suit down by manipulating the electrical currency in his suit.
Real thing is, Ironman doesn't need metal in the suit to lose to magneto. His suit runs on electricity, and even nonferromagnetic materials are either paramagnetic or diamagnetic, so magneto could have won this in a half second
I'm fine with a throwaway over the Holidays. -because Magneto would absolutely _Destroy_ Iron Man in all ways, no chance, none whatsoever, Tony would be dead. dead. dead. Now that, is a story I'd love to read.
This was one of the few AvX issues that I enjoyed just for the simple fact that its one v one and it fully acknowledges that iron man is smart but also magneto can do a lot with his powers, i don't know I could go on a whole spiel why i love this.
I'm sorry to say, but the simple fact that Magneto doesn't easily clap Tony in this fight is clear indication the writers either didn't do their homework or just don't care to use the abilities their characters have been shown and known to have. Magneto is not an equal fight for Tony at all, under almost any circumstances. He would have to possess effectively *every* advantage possible to even stand a chance against Magneto. This isn't me hating on Tony Stark. This is just me knowing how much more *ludicrous* Magneto's abilities are. The man earns that Omega Level many times over. Magneto is a threat that you call *all* of the Avengers for.
You have to keep in mind as well before this that Emma Frost did pull one over on Iron Man. Showed up on their island with psy-blockers just for her but didn't anticipate Emma just to straight up punch him in her diamond form.
Electromagnetic force is one of the 4 main forces in the universe. In magnetisam the same polar things deflect of each other, and different polar things atract each other. Ironman can change the polarity of his repulser blasts to go through Magnetos shiels, then again Magnito can change the polarity of his shields at will. Magneto can use magnetic elements around then to attack Ironman since his armour is not magnetic ... it all depends on can Tony Stark think of countermeasures for that and knowing him, he can ... this is an interesting fight.
Magneto would crush Iron Man. Magneto survived getting his heart ripped out by Ouranos. There's no way IronMan's EVER beating Magneto. Plus Magneto is Omega tier. He should be able to control the gravity of planets so Iron Man's planetary gravity chaneling trick wouldnt be advantageous.
Okay so Iron Man didn't actually win the fight, Magneto just stopped fighting because he felt an entire planet vanish in the depths of space. That is a valid ending. If this had continued, I see no world in which Iron Man isn't killed. But Magneto explicitly stopped fighting rather than being beaten. *That* is an actual possible result of this fight. Magneto is trying not to kill Tony, progressively goes bigger and bigger to fight back against him, and then stops when something more important comes up. It's very clear here that Magneto wasn't trying to kill Tony. If he was, things would have ended much sooner and much differently. The fight would have ended right after Iron Man's little internal monologue about how 'if you thought this fight would already be over, you never met me' with him being literally shredded from the inside-out by the iron in his blood.
@@everettjohnson9374 What about his body and brain? I think whenever the iron man fanboys write these magneto vs iron man fights they forget he doesn't just control metal he has power over electromagnetism, one of the four fundamental forces of the universe which is why he literally has taken on the likes of apocolypse with his almost godlike powers.
Magneto power was interrupted by phoenix destroying a planet he was pulling energy from, so that’s why at the end he felt her and not iron man. If the writers wasn’t trying to sell an avengers movie , Magneto would win.
Who's getting hype for Iron Man's newest armor made out of Mysterium that is literally just as strong as Adamantium, Vibranium and Uru. Plus can I just say how the design for Iron Man's new armor looks amazing looking.
@@RoyalViking465 Yeah, I was gonna say the same about it not lasting long. Wonder what it will take for him to lose it. I'm guessing Emma takes it in the divorce lol!
That should never have happened. Magneto can literally control the iron in a person's blood and bust metal apart down to the molecular level. I don't care what mcguffin Iron Man had. magneto could have destroyed him in any number of ways.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 don't be stupid and actually read the damn things batman has only beat Superman once out of twelve with Superman winning eleven of those fights so don't bring batman into this lol.
I think if Magneto had the mind to do it, he would kill Tony. Lets be real, the things you can do with magnetic fields affect people fundamentally. He could use the magnetic fields around him and concentrate them on Tony until his head started bleeding inside out. if he put enough power into that field around Tony, Tony's body would start arcing with electricity or it could interfere with the power generator for his suit. Have they ever done that in a story?
No clue if Magneto has ever done that, but he definitely should be able to, which also reminds me that that's what Terry Crew's character in Deadpool 2 can do. In theory it should work in reverse, so Crews's character has magneto's powers???
@@neokakashi578 nah i definitely overlooked him when i typed that… how shortsighted of me hulk stands much more than just a chance… i realize how immensely powerful he currently is tho, and i have to admit i am a huge x-men fanboy… that being said rob mentioned it in the video, the potential for destruction with electromagnesis isn’t rly quantifiable… magneto & hulk are planetary threats- at *least*… i could see magneto doing hulk in though, logically he would have 2 b first
Haha I remember when this comics came out and I showed it to my friend and he just rolled his eyes 🤣😂 writers be pulling crazy shieet outta their bungholes foreal
Magneto is stronger but wtf do you mean he's better at hand to hand. People keep disrespecting and forgetting that Tony trains his body too. Magneto doesn't + he's old. no powers just naked fist fight Tony beats old man magneto 10/10 times.
Magneto literally kept himself alive without a heart by magnetizing the iron in his blood. Enough said. If Iron Man had no writers' plot armour, he'd be dead in a millisecond from taking on Magneto.
Okay but like he literally one time weaponized the iron in someone's blood to rip them apart from the inside out so it's not like he *can't* do that. @@justinmcdonald2072
I really thought that Magento would make easy work of Iron Man as well but then again we're talking about Tony Stark here. A true mastermind. Very interesting twist of events.
I'd think Iron Man with prep time would find a way to mess with the magnetic fields which we do see here, but I'm sure he could go further because comic super science reasons
If Tony can tap into Jupiter's magnetic field via satellites over that planet, and Magneto can instantly destroy those satellites which is 409 million miles away... why wouldn't he tap into Jupiter's magnetic field himself?
LOL, Really people, you dont think Tony Stark would not come ready for this fight. Yes Tony knows all about and probably more about magnetism than Magneto. You probably think Magneto would also wipe the floor with Dr. Doom too. LOL not a chance.
Magnetos biggest ace up his sleeve or Super OP card is that he can use the Iron normally naturally found in a persons body, clump them all up together to make a tiny nail and zig zag it thoughout the body. he used that once but i guess they nerf that to avoid him being too OP.
Thing about fights in Marvel and DC is that it all depends on how ready one is for the other. If Mganeto and Iron Man were to fight without preparing to do so, Magneto would beat Iron Man, same if Magneto was to go after Iron Man, however by Iron Man preparing to fight Magneto the chances were in Iron Man's favor.
People here underestimate Tony so much like yeah he's a genius he can have anti magnetic defenses in his base suit no prblm lmao Read Iron Man comics before you yall start saying Plot bullshit
I mean that is the whole point of his repulsor tech. It allows him to manipulate the field of magnetism surrounding his armor. Magneto can’t simply crush his armor as the guy can also bend the electromagnetic fields as well.
The massive aneurysm that Magneto could inflict on Stark would render his money and vaunted intellect pointless. The writers have completely lost the plot when it comes to Ironman, from going toe to toe with the Hulk to taking on the bloody Celestials it's become a parody of the comics we grew up with.
"Wah-Wah-wah😭, Everything was better when I was a kid. This comic is from 2012, so check your time frame. Also, Ironman whole thing is that he plans and builds Suits for problem, Magento is a problem for Ironman (and anyone) Magneto can cuase strokes and blood attacks, Storm also do that with electric storms inside people brains and Jean can telekinetically stop blood flowing but they don't always do that Why? Because if you make a character to powerful, and have 0 issues with instant murdering any and everyone they fight as fast as possible.... The story and character gets really boring, really fast ... Magento could also just release a planet wide EDM, Drop an asteriod or space station on Ironman, etc. Assume Ironman suit has suppression for that ok
This reminds me of when Reed tricked Magneto with a wooden gun in that one old animated series. Bro straight up had a mental breakdown being held at gun point and not being able to use his powers on it. One of the goofiest moments for such a serious character
Hahah, what was it called? 😂
@@bbbouy242 it’s the first fantastic four series from the 60’s like Spider-Man
I actually have that cartoon on VHS. I was utterly shocked how Magneto surrendered and effectively stated he was useless without his powers. Yet, the police arrive with their metal vehicles and gun. Mr. Fantastic explained he had a wooden gun and tricked Magneto. Logically Magneto still had his magnetic powers, but still surrendered to the police and took him away, like he no longer had his powers.@@ForeveraBoss117
That was and always will be, the best vs Magneto fight ever.
Its goofy having a gun pointed at you and freaking out that you cant do anything about it?? Poor choice of words 😂
Stark: "Ha! I'm wearing carbon nanotubes!"
Magneto: "Call it whatever you want. A coffin's a coffin."
I want there to be an Seen in marvel where goons are sent to deal with magneto are wearing special tony stark iron man like suits that have protection and They describe it. And he says this line.
Before he slaughters them all.
HERE TO?!?!
and then he lost
Dont forget to mention He can also control the metal or Iron in your body!
Stark seems to always have whatever plotbuster suit he needs depending on the writer.
Well, um, yeah. That's kinda his whole deal.
"plotbuster suit" That's a keeper.
Yeah his deal is making suits dumbass
Bro knows Magneto exists ofc he's gonna be prepared
If I was tony stark, I absolutely would have a suit designed to fight the most powerful threats in the world, especially threats like mutants with powers that could control metal.
If he didn’t, that would be the real plot buster.
@@forsaken7976 I mean, I get it. The guy thinks of everything and is always prepared. I'll argue that the most interesting Iron Man stories are the ones when he hasn't thought of everything and has to improvise a win. The "I have a suit for everything" solution is just lazy writing imo.
Hope Summers, from that description, sounds like a superhero a small child comes up with. "Nuh-uh! I can copy all powers, and keep em forever!"
Tony Stark's intellect is unparalleled, but Magneto's is one that can't be overlooked.
Tony can no diff Magneto if needed all of his interaction with Magneto didn't win a single one
I mean that is why the two make for a good fight with one another as its not really about how is the more powerful in the situation but rather his the most creative with their given abilities.
Iron Man is a genius who create tech that exceeds beyond human capabilities and is able to build MULTIPLE super powered armors for just about any occasions or countermeasures because he is that prepared.
Meanwhile Magneto is considered a powerful mutant with the way he trained and honed in own his mutant abilities to so more than just manipulating metal around him (which gives him a sort of power lottery for whatever his needs).
Not unparalleled but close, Reed is still considered smarter then Stark. It's even referenced once where Stark basically makes everyone on earth on his level and redd says he feels slightly dumber xD.
@@Naucturna True, but it did show how smart Tony is and he did indirectly humble Forge when the mutant inventor faced a Stark Sentinel.
... he's not even in the top 3 smartest people on Marvel Earth. It's so obvious so many of Rob's fans don't actually read the comics. Makes me sad.
Man, this starts with the fillings in Tony's teeth rattling? If he has metal fillings.. oof, Magneto would just puree his insides.
Yea, why wouldn't he just move one of those into his brain or something? I'm sure his suit has some kind of dampening effect, but once magneto is amped by the sun and all that jazz, surely he could manage one force pull
We all know Magneto would’ve, should’ve, could’ve destroyed Ironman
nope. Ironman in a non-metal suit would win this one. Iron man controls satellites and nuclear war heads.
@@redwhiteandtruth
You don't understand Magneto at all, his powers allow him to control the entire Electromagnetic Force not just metals, meaning he can straight up absorb electricity from Iron-Mans armor, he's an Omega-level mutant above all things
@@redwhiteandtruthmagneto can straight up just strip the iron out of Tony’s blood if he felt like doing it. Or even use the energy from iron man’s own repulsar blasts as his own attacks
LOL, what a fool... Magneto doesnt just magnetize metal... he controls the whole electromagnetic spectrum.. if youd grasp what that entails, you would not have brought up that pathetic argument@@redwhiteandtruth
He won and threw t he fight. Did you not see the video?
Seriously Rob? My whole thing about Megneto is when he grabbed/took control of Apocalypse iron content of his blood and shredded him from the inside out. Anybody who has iron in their blood is officially wrecked. Tony Stark included.
@IStevenSeagalApocalypse is definitely not made of metal or coated in it or anything. That's never been a thing. He's all flesh and blood AND he can control his body and composition. He could definitely alter himself to not need iron via mutant fuckery.
If anything him doing it to Apocalypse just makes it MORE clear he should be doing it to anyone.
@@PragabondApocalypse has the techno-organic virus throughout his cells, and he wears metal armour.
since all matter is made of atoms, which contain electrons, it stands to reason that magneto could easily defeat everyone he fights. I wonder why he doesn't do that. could it be that it isn't easy for him to exercise such a fine control of his abilities?
Is it so hard to understand that Tony's armor was shielded so Magneto could do nothing to Tony directly!?
I think what was amazing and proof of Mag's Omega Levelness.. Was during the fight, after Tony siphoned from Jupiter, Mags starts musing on how he's Siphoning magnetic power from other Planets.. And the thing that distracted him was one of those planets dying.. Just.. Good lord if Mags can do that level of insanty with his powers.. he could throw whole Solar Systems into chaos.. Forget just destroying Earth! His only weakness then comes down to that he still needs to Breath, Eat, and Sleep.. IE He's still Human..
He's not human, he's a mutant. What you mean is he's still mortal.
@@AngelusNielson sorry but isn’t the X gene just a genetic change within the human biology therefore meaning they are still human ???
@@TheKhal22 Lorewise they are homo superior not homo sapiens.
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In the movies, Iron Man made his primary armor of titanium and gold. Neither of which is affected by magnetism like ferrous metals. Titanium and gold have virtually zero magnetic properties. They do carry electrical current very well though.
doesnt matter, magneto can magnetize non ferrous metals. he doesnt control metal, he controls electrons.
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"doesnt matter, magneto can magnetize non ferrous metals. he doesnt control metal, he controls electrons."
If that were true then he would have had zero problem breaking out of his plexiglass jail cell. But he did not. Care to take a guess at why not?
@@oldtimefarmboy617 care to explain why he can control ice? he effectively controls anything composed of polar molecules…
@@gravediggrrr5150
"@oldtimefarmboy617 care to explain why he can control ice? he effectively controls anything composed of polar molecules…"
Water, and therefore ice, is a natural solvent, meaning it dissolves minerals without changing its composition. Ice, because it is solid, can hold more minerals than liquid water. So if the ice has a high concentration of magnetic minerals, say like IRON, he can control the iron in the ice and through the iron control the ice. Just like he can influence the small amount of iron in red blood cells. Pure water, H2O, would be devoid of minerals and not affected by magnetism at all.
But that does not change the fact that he can not control plexiglass or wood or cotton or wool or plastics or anything else that is non ferrous or lacks any magnetic properties.
The three elemental metals that are naturally ferromagnetic are iron, cobalt, and nickel. Compounds and alloys can also be magnetic if they contain iron, cobalt, or nickel, such as steel and stainless steel. Non-magnetic metals include aluminum, copper, lead, tin, TITANIUM, zinc, and alloys such as brass and bronze.
And polar molecules have nothing to do with magnetism and everything to do with the strength of one elements covalent bond with another element.
Those two metals are soft AF. Magneto throws something at that armor and is game over
"Magneto like the people on Reddit" that's gold
Magneto is one of those mutants where, if you really stop to think about his power, he's damn near unstoppable, so it kinda puts the writers into a corner. Compare Magneto to the stand Metallica from JJBA. Risotto is the Mafia's best assassin because he can manipulate electromagnetism to form things out of the iron in your blood, such as him forming a pair of scissors in Dopio's neck. I'm sure Magneto could do the same and that's just one weak example. He could manipulate light etc. Very OP mutant power for sure.
I don't exactly remember the name of the channel but they do analyze his power. Just the way he can manipulate iron in blood requires power equal to a small black hole. And Magneto can do that easily. So... yeah. Magneto, in hard paper, has cataclysmic levels of power.
I remember someone saying about Iron Man vs Magneto that Magneto would turn Iron Man into a toaster 🤣🤣🤣
I love seeing magneto use his power like this
Always wonder why Magneto never has any metal ball bearings some projectile with him.
I always figured that’s why his chest piece looked the way it does.
Better yet... why not adamantium ball bearings? Or better yet, adamantium shuriken?
My guess is he doesn't really need to bring ammo since he can find ammo just about anywhere lol Just rip off some sheet metal from a building with his powers, mold it into an arrow-like shape and launch it at insane speed. Could do the same with rocks etc.
Suit too tight, no pockets
@@thestarseeker8196 he needs earrings made of metal
Man this just kept getting interesting I love this I love your narration
While I do generally love seeing arbitrary "X vs. Y" fights like Magneto vs. Iron Man, the Xmen vs. Avengers and related stories always remind me of maybe the biggest annoyance I have in comic book stories, when the plot essentially hinges on two groups or a few individuals just not talking to each other in anything resembling a rational manner. Yeah, I get it, these are super-powered people who rightfully think they can use their abilities to make any problem or opposition go their way, but when the plot entirely hinges on them being man-children, it often takes me out of it. I guess I'm just saying those are my least favorite sorts of stories.
These books are and always have been written for 12 year old boys (and their equivalent adult man children who actually buy them these days). There’s no widespread market of tweens or adults who will buy series of books of super powered people “talking it out.” The industry is built on pew pew pow. An intellectual debate might be good for a few issues or character piece. But when these characters can shoot lasers out of their eye balls, they’ll never be able to sustain sales by NOT letting them fight. But I agree with you, I would’ve hoped the comics industry might grow up with its audience. Not sure they or the audience have grown up.
😂😂We don't have super powers now and people now will still kill each other instead of having a discussion. Comics have a ton of issues but this is one thing they get right. If we all woke up tomorrow with various powers, 85-90% of the human population would let it go to their head (assuming they actually get a decent power)
Magneto could have made Iron Man the juicy center of giant Shipping Container Snickers bar but that wouldn't make for a good story where we need Iron Man to help at the end.
Why wouldn't magneto just cause the iron in iron man's blood to go racing off through him extremly fast all at once? Literally instant death. This fight was a mcguffin not because of Tony's toys but because the writer nerfed magnetos power like he isn't a powerful enough mutant TO OH I DONT KNOW HAVE HIS HEART MISSING YET BE ALIVE BECAUSE HE CAN PUMP HIS OWN BLOOD WITH HIS POWER
This time around Magneto isn't trying to be the bad guy or to kill Tony. Magneto is trying to stop Tony from making a mistake, as Magneto has done time and time again letting revenge cloud his judgement.
Great.
So mags let his anger get to him?
"But magneto, just like people of reddit, dismiss the point and focus on what they want to focus on" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️
Magneto is compassionate. He didn't take it seriously. He can actually kill Tony Stark.
Magneto wouldnt need to touch Iron Mans suit... he could just interrupt his brain waves, he could suck the iron out of his body. Or a non metal suit, gets punched by thousands of metal shards that he pulls from the Earth.... he could kill Iron Man soo many ways, so fast this is just ridiculous.
Most of the fights in AvX were bs. Namor losing to Thing....in the WATER??? Magneto should easily stomp Ironman. Even with a suit not made of metal...Mags can affect the metal in his body. This is a prime example of the writers deciding the winner first and coming up with whatever means gets to that end. Most of AvX is just a waste.
Bruh Capt American straight up tanked having his clothes charged by Gambit. Shit was stupid
Yeah. Leaving aside the weirdness of using satellites to harness magnetism (what?) it takes LIGHT minimum 35 minutes to travel from Jupiter to earth. He must have been planning this for a while.
I knew I couldn't be the only one that felt like this. The writing for AvX was Piss Poor! Thing beating Namor underwater alone is enough to throw the whole event out, but Iron Man beats Magneto solo when he's an X-Men-level threat to himself. Colossus as the juggernaut somehow not dragging Thing or Red Hulk. Cyclops vs Cap and Scott suddenly loses all tactical acumen and just shoots a basic beam straight at Caps Shield until he walks him down and shield bashes him lol. Gambit blows up the chest of Caps' armor then gets walked down, and that's after Cap knocks out Warpath lol. It was just bad on bad on bad
you are reading it all wrong it isn't that the fights were stupid it's the fights were written to make it so that the ones who made a new golden age come about *lost!!!* why??BECASUSE PEACE DOESN'T SELL COMICS!!!!
@@Tb0n3 very verry likely he did say he came there with a plan.
Was hoping for the old wooden gun trick but I guess carbon nanotubes and satelite boosted repulsor rays are ok.
I always find it funny how Batman is considered so great because he's rich, has toys, and prep time. Yet, Ironman gets no credit even though he uses the same thing, except he's one of the smartest men on the planet. *Shrug*
The whole magneto satellite suit was kinda silly to me. Would have been better for the fight if magneto absorbed the powers of Jupiter that stark was channeling to enhance his own magnetic power. Writers normally does magneto like surfer , which is they have so many other feats that they can do but only show them doing the basics. In this battle he could have shut Iron man suit down by manipulating the electrical currency in his suit.
Iron Man's suit is immune to EMP, everyone knows that
MAN, LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING!!!
Beyond Omega Level=Rob's hype level
Real thing is, Ironman doesn't need metal in the suit to lose to magneto. His suit runs on electricity, and even nonferromagnetic materials are either paramagnetic or diamagnetic, so magneto could have won this in a half second
I'm fine with a throwaway over the Holidays.
-because Magneto would absolutely _Destroy_ Iron Man in all ways, no chance, none whatsoever, Tony would be dead. dead. dead. Now that, is a story I'd love to read.
The fact that Iron Man used magnets to stop shrapnel getting to his heart....
Awesome. This never gets old.
Pretty sure Magneto controlled the the entire magnetic spectrum. Not just metal
This was one of the few AvX issues that I enjoyed just for the simple fact that its one v one and it fully acknowledges that iron man is smart but also magneto can do a lot with his powers, i don't know I could go on a whole spiel why i love this.
Really, I thought this whole ordeal was contrived and terribly written.
I'm sorry to say, but the simple fact that Magneto doesn't easily clap Tony in this fight is clear indication the writers either didn't do their homework or just don't care to use the abilities their characters have been shown and known to have. Magneto is not an equal fight for Tony at all, under almost any circumstances. He would have to possess effectively *every* advantage possible to even stand a chance against Magneto.
This isn't me hating on Tony Stark. This is just me knowing how much more *ludicrous* Magneto's abilities are. The man earns that Omega Level many times over. Magneto is a threat that you call *all* of the Avengers for.
One of the rare moments his armors work
You have to keep in mind as well before this that Emma Frost did pull one over on Iron Man. Showed up on their island with psy-blockers just for her but didn't anticipate Emma just to straight up punch him in her diamond form.
This was definitely awesome and unexpected
Dope indeed to get the details. Wait on the next story
I hope you make all the vs comics on here!
Electromagnetic force is one of the 4 main forces in the universe. In magnetisam the same polar things deflect of each other, and different polar things atract each other. Ironman can change the polarity of his repulser blasts to go through Magnetos shiels, then again Magnito can change the polarity of his shields at will. Magneto can use magnetic elements around then to attack Ironman since his armour is not magnetic ... it all depends on can Tony Stark think of countermeasures for that and knowing him, he can ... this is an interesting fight.
That subtle Reddit dig was hilarious 😂
"I got plot buster armor on bro"
"I'll just control you by the iron in your blood folk" - Magneto
and then he loses
Tony modified his body its crazy , he straight up can reverse engineer genetics
The fight can still be over quickly. Magneto can pull the metal from the earth and overwhelm Ironman!!
Iron Man's strongest suit is Plot Armor.
'Didn't know prep time was plot armour.'
Magneto would crush Iron Man. Magneto survived getting his heart ripped out by Ouranos. There's no way IronMan's EVER beating Magneto. Plus Magneto is Omega tier. He should be able to control the gravity of planets so Iron Man's planetary gravity chaneling trick wouldnt be advantageous.
Awesome!
Okay so Iron Man didn't actually win the fight, Magneto just stopped fighting because he felt an entire planet vanish in the depths of space. That is a valid ending. If this had continued, I see no world in which Iron Man isn't killed. But Magneto explicitly stopped fighting rather than being beaten. *That* is an actual possible result of this fight. Magneto is trying not to kill Tony, progressively goes bigger and bigger to fight back against him, and then stops when something more important comes up.
It's very clear here that Magneto wasn't trying to kill Tony. If he was, things would have ended much sooner and much differently. The fight would have ended right after Iron Man's little internal monologue about how 'if you thought this fight would already be over, you never met me' with him being literally shredded from the inside-out by the iron in his blood.
If Magneto controls metal, why would Iron Man or Wolverine fight him at all? 😂😂😂
Because Tony has a way to negate Megnetos control over his suit
Tony built an armor out of carbon nanotubes ,which would be immune to Magneto's power
@@everettjohnson9374 What about his body and brain? I think whenever the iron man fanboys write these magneto vs iron man fights they forget he doesn't just control metal he has power over electromagnetism, one of the four fundamental forces of the universe which is why he literally has taken on the likes of apocolypse with his almost godlike powers.
@crispri3919 "Fanboys" didn't write this fight, this is an ACTUAL fight in comics.
Can't magneto essentially create EMPs with his powers?
Theres iron in our blood writers seem to forget that
Magneto power was interrupted by phoenix destroying a planet he was pulling energy from, so that’s why at the end he felt her and not iron man. If the writers wasn’t trying to sell an avengers movie , Magneto would win.
Stark should have developed monopolar magnets. Getting a magnetic field from space would have taken like ten minutes.
Who's getting hype for Iron Man's newest armor made out of Mysterium that is literally just as strong as Adamantium, Vibranium and Uru.
Plus can I just say how the design for Iron Man's new armor looks amazing looking.
Face kinda looks ugly imo but chest is cool af
It’s not quite as strong but it’s more versatile
I'm hyped for the mysterium armor and it looks phenomenal... just hope he keeps it for a while.
@@RoyalViking465 Yeah, I was gonna say the same about it not lasting long. Wonder what it will take for him to lose it. I'm guessing Emma takes it in the divorce lol!
That should never have happened. Magneto can literally control the iron in a person's blood and bust metal apart down to the molecular level. I don't care what mcguffin Iron Man had. magneto could have destroyed him in any number of ways.
@kennyanderson7785 what are your thoughts on Batman apparently never losing a fight to Superman? And how he won in TDKR?
"Writer Powah" who needs to win will win@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 the power creep in DC is a disaster.
To be fair Magneto is easy to counter, just make your own strong magnetic field since al he does is make one.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 don't be stupid and actually read the damn things batman has only beat Superman once out of twelve with Superman winning eleven of those fights so don't bring batman into this lol.
Bro you said i was never gonna guess how it ends!
*iron man wins 😂
We all know the plot of Avengers Secret Wars has to be Avengers vs X-Men; this fight has to happen on-screen.
I think if Magneto had the mind to do it, he would kill Tony. Lets be real, the things you can do with magnetic fields affect people fundamentally. He could use the magnetic fields around him and concentrate them on Tony until his head started bleeding inside out. if he put enough power into that field around Tony, Tony's body would start arcing with electricity or it could interfere with the power generator for his suit. Have they ever done that in a story?
No clue if Magneto has ever done that, but he definitely should be able to, which also reminds me that that's what Terry Crew's character in Deadpool 2 can do. In theory it should work in reverse, so Crews's character has magneto's powers???
His suit has counter measures for stuff like that. It’d also require Magneto to focus which would be hard well fighting someone like Tony
Hes a walking toaster lol
As he did to Apocalypse when he grabbed the iron content of his blood and shredded him from the inside out. GAME OVER!
@@bobbolan4672 oh yeah game over man game over man :P
I'm wondering who wrote this. Why would anyone think that Magneto would think that Ironman's suit is literally made out of iron?
True, he doesnt even need to think it... he can feel it.. The guy can feel the magnetism of planets
@@constructionnetwork6858exactly he should have been able to tell Tony wasn't wearing metal from far away
holy fuck lil bro, watch the video
Ah... the MCU has been hinting at Hope Summers since What If Zombies.
Mr Fantastic defeats Magneto with a wooden gun
Ah yes, Batman with Prep time always wins... er I mean Ironman with prep time, and his Magento Buster suit with anti magneto satellites.
every time I see something about A v X, I am reminded of What If? A v X and how I said "oh, #$%@ you" at the end of it lol
I love ironman and magneto but i can think of a ton of ways magneto takes that iron man out and quickly.
You the man bro
If Magneto really wanted to win, he would've used the fillings in Tonys mouth to stab him in the brain. Done.
Magento could reasonably defeat all of the Avengers at once.
no??
Exactly
@@DoubleAAcewho could stop him & how💀thor is the only who even stands a chance and i hardly believe in that
@@neokakashi578 nah i definitely overlooked him when i typed that… how shortsighted of me
hulk stands much more than just a chance…
i realize how immensely powerful he currently is tho, and i have to admit i am a huge x-men fanboy…
that being said rob mentioned it in the video, the potential for destruction with electromagnesis isn’t rly quantifiable… magneto & hulk are planetary threats- at *least*…
i could see magneto doing hulk in though, logically he would have 2 b first
Merry Christmas
Avengers v Xmen started an interesting concept with Cable then choked on contradictions
Iron man with prep can challenge the top tier heroes of Marvel. Iron man without prep is street level.
Iron Man's best armor is plot armor. 😂 Dude is more prepped than Batman.
At this point Ironman is just a walking joke, a suit for anything? like come on. Magneto's powers has a wide range, like its crazy.
Exactly! So what if his suit is made of carbon? It still runs on electricity, which, in case you didn’t know, Magneto can screw with
actually, this is one of the few instances where iron man is written as the competent fighter he is.
Respect your opinion but I disagree. Thanks for sharing.
"magneto, just like the people on reddit, just dismissed the point" 😂
Haha I remember when this comics came out and I showed it to my friend and he just rolled his eyes 🤣😂 writers be pulling crazy shieet outta their bungholes foreal
Cope
I always hate when they write captain America as a champion for a tyranny of convenience. It’s always cheapens the character.
Magneto is stronger but wtf do you mean he's better at hand to hand. People keep disrespecting and forgetting that Tony trains his body too. Magneto doesn't + he's old. no powers just naked fist fight Tony beats old man magneto 10/10 times.
Magneto literally kept himself alive without a heart by magnetizing the iron in his blood.
Enough said.
If Iron Man had no writers' plot armour, he'd be dead in a millisecond from taking on Magneto.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in comics up to date.
@@Scroll55555 He made a pacemaker out of his magnetism, to keep his blood flowing.
If that was something more of an attack not a life stabilizer then Tony could be concerned.
@@Scroll55555 how is keeping your blood flowing after having your heart ripped out stupid?
Okay but like he literally one time weaponized the iron in someone's blood to rip them apart from the inside out so it's not like he *can't* do that. @@justinmcdonald2072
I really thought that Magento would make easy work of Iron Man as well but then again we're talking about Tony Stark here. A true mastermind. Very interesting twist of events.
“…much like people on Reddit…”
Lmao, my man!
I'd think Iron Man with prep time would find a way to mess with the magnetic fields which we do see here, but I'm sure he could go further because comic super science reasons
Ah the Buster Armors. Ever the optimist Tony. Magneto could have beaten Tony with an Iron Man Buster of his own: a fine bottle of Laphroaig Whiskey.
If Tony can tap into Jupiter's magnetic field via satellites over that planet, and Magneto can instantly destroy those satellites which is 409 million miles away... why wouldn't he tap into Jupiter's magnetic field himself?
Iron Man must have a special suit for this...
Tony stark the master of plot armor.
who would win if magneto fight storm?
AvX was a calamity.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
Maybe Stark should’ve hired plastic man to go up against magneto😮
Loved the original Iron Man vs Magneto One shot novel from like 20 years back, was great.
if not shut down his powers, is more likely they are ment to hinder his abilities.
LOL, Really people, you dont think Tony Stark would not come ready for this fight. Yes Tony knows all about and probably more about magnetism than Magneto. You probably think Magneto would also wipe the floor with Dr. Doom too. LOL not a chance.
Magnetos biggest ace up his sleeve or Super OP card is that he can use the Iron normally naturally found in a persons body, clump them all up together to make a tiny nail and zig zag it thoughout the body. he used that once but i guess they nerf that to avoid him being too OP.
You cannot do that. Because of the state it is in. That was just a movie and that guy had literaly an injection of it.
Can't Magento just crush Ironman's Balls?
Thing about fights in Marvel and DC is that it all depends on how ready one is for the other. If Mganeto and Iron Man were to fight without preparing to do so, Magneto would beat Iron Man, same if Magneto was to go after Iron Man, however by Iron Man preparing to fight Magneto the chances were in Iron Man's favor.
Wait, Rob, didn't you already cover this?
Magneto should have thrown alcoholic drinks at him, fight would have been over in minutes😂
There’s no armor like plot armor.
Shouldn't Tony Stark be called "Carbon Nanotube Man", rather than Iron Man?
People here underestimate Tony so much like yeah he's a genius he can have anti magnetic defenses in his base suit no prblm lmao
Read Iron Man comics before you yall start saying Plot bullshit
I mean that is the whole point of his repulsor tech. It allows him to manipulate the field of magnetism surrounding his armor.
Magneto can’t simply crush his armor as the guy can also bend the electromagnetic fields as well.
The massive aneurysm that Magneto could inflict on Stark would render his money and vaunted intellect pointless. The writers have completely lost the plot when it comes to Ironman, from going toe to toe with the Hulk to taking on the bloody Celestials it's become a parody of the comics we grew up with.
"Wah-Wah-wah😭, Everything was better when I was a kid. This comic is from 2012, so check your time frame. Also, Ironman whole thing is that he plans and builds Suits for problem, Magento is a problem for Ironman (and anyone)
Magneto can cuase strokes and blood attacks,
Storm also do that with electric storms inside people brains and Jean can telekinetically stop blood flowing
but they don't always do that
Why?
Because if you make a character to powerful, and have 0 issues with instant murdering any and everyone they fight as fast as possible....
The story and character gets really boring, really fast ... Magento could also just release a planet wide EDM, Drop an asteriod or space station on Ironman, etc.
Assume Ironman suit has suppression for that ok
Magneto is my favorite mutant. The strongest? Perhaps not. However, definitely among the smartest/most interesting.