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If you asked him what day of the week it was he’d say “well years ago before they named the days it was just sun up sun down. Nobody kept track. But then I came up with this great idea…”
I used to work with a guy like this He said after 20 minutes on his first day they made him one of the company managers Some people are just mental and believe the stuff they say
Greg Gagne booked every single thing in WCW up until early 1999 and that's why you see such a decline in the product. But he let Bischoff take the credit because that's just the kind of guy he is 😂
I find it very, very, very hard to believe that WCW saw Greg Gagne as a "top guy" in the same category as Lex Luger, Sting, and Ric Flair, all past, present, and/or future world champions. Greg Gagne wasn't even a world champion in his father's own territory.
Greg definitely could command Stinger money back in 1992($500,000). Well, maybe $50,000 anyway. Did you forget Greg that Jim Herd left the company in Jan 1992?
@@john_WayneRidesAgain WCWs belt wasn't worth 1/10th of what the AWAs belt was. Greg made the right call there! His father would have been embarrassed.
Back in '72 ...Verne was having trouble getting his shows on TV. Greg suggested there should be a network, maybe even cable channel, that aired strictly sports, some marketing people took it and ran with it
6:00 apparently the secret to keeping things going is the Dusty finish. AWA was constantly overturning title changes when I watched them in the 80s on ESPN
Yeah and they would be very inconsistent about when they would overturn a decision and when they wouldn't. Even as a kid I remember being very frustrated by this
Bill Watts did his dad a favor by bringing him into WCW after his wrestling career was over by age. I'm sure one of his big ideas was getting Turner to buy the defunct AWA from his dad for alot of money. But as for the rest. Greg is always good at telling stories.
Greg was real good in the ring. I enjoyed his matches. As a tag team especially. However he embellishes a lot of what he says, if not just outright lying. If he said he taught Abe Lincoln how to wrestle and gave him a top hat and told him to be president it would be par for the course. CBS was about to sign a massive deal with the AWA...suuuuuuuure they were.
Geez, I'd loved that and it probably would've kept me a fan. I quit myself because of, (can't believe I'm admitting this.) Umm, I quit when they made Naitch cut his hair. I wanted the old 6:05 Crockett show to go on forever. Being up in New Haven, I grew w/McMahon's circus so when TBS came to town and JCP's show came on I was hooked. It was slightly more adult oriented + having an older brother + sister I was geared towards more mature. Then the thought of Flair go to NY. made me ill. I missed the Attitude Era 'cuz I'd sworn to never watch Naitch 'Do a Job' for anyone so nothing made me wretch more than to have heard he had gotten so insecure that he was willing to do jobs for Meathead Hogan. Not once but all over the U.S.. This was like free therapy. I don't have to worry about anyone reading this. I mean I find Greg's story telling interesting, cuz he's been around but I can't believe many modern day snarky wrestling fan will watch or read this. My embarrassment for admitting all that is bullshit because nobody will read the comments on the clip. 😏
Well, there goes my theory that nobody will read this. Thanks a lot. Well, I went to Catholic schools and my need to Confess is probably greater than my embarrassment that people did read my response. Again, Thanks a lot 😏
@@Shannon-tm7ek I come from the long haired generation and looking back I can't believe what I missed ALL BECAUSE of The Nature's Boy haircut. However, after reading + watching much of what I'd missed I'm sort-of glad because after reading how scumbag Herd + Biscoff treated Flair I'm glad I didn't watch.
1) the awa was dead and gone by 95 when Nitro began and the Monday Night Wars started. It officially died in 91, but let’s be honest: it had been dead long before that. Its audience had dwindled to next to nothing, Verne was leveraging personal property to keep it going, and they had long since stopped producing stars, ratings, decent ticket sales or buy rates. The average fan in 96 couldn’t tell you 2 facts about the American Wrestling Association. No one cared. Having WCW feud with the AWA made ZERO sense to anyone with their head in reality. 2) He came into WCW under a “nice.. nice contract” *eyeroll*, “making the same money as their top guys were making” - if you’re a person who believes in the “many worlds” theory, that is to say the theory that there are an infinite number of universes within an infinite multiverse with an infinite amount of possibilities and differences that distinguish themselves from each other, that’s fine. However, in NONE of them was GREG FREAKIN’ GAGNE making the kind of money STING AND FLAIR WERE.
@@curthennig9448 I realize Flair was in the WWF at the time (my favorite Royal Rumble actually. “With a tear in my eye…”). I was simply using Flair as another example of a top guy who typically was in WCW. But we can insert Luger, Vader, etc. Either way, I will never buy that WCW issued a contract with that kind of money to Greg Gagne. And no, I agree, by 94, the AWA had no name value. It died such a slow, quiet death that by the time it was dead, most casuals wouldn’t have even known what it was.
@@BigDaddyPreach I got your Flair money reference. That was a great interview post Rumble with Flair, Perfect, and Heenan. Greg had been done wrestling for nearly 3 years by the fall of 1992. Jim Herd left the company in Jan 1992. Herd was not calling Greg to be a wrestler in WCW, that's for sure. Greg thinking the AWA name was going to be a big deal in 1994 is comical. It was pretty much official that the AWA was 6 feet under by the summer of 1988.
I was a huge AWA mark, but by the late 80s, only in the kayfabe wrestling magazines was the AWA a world title. Especially after the Stan Hansen fiasco. Does anyone ask Greg about that?
Every word sounds plausible to me. Bring on the haters. 🤣 Since Greg has retired from his illustrious Pro Wrestling career as a good guy, the most remarkable thing has happened. He has apparently become one of the most popular Heel attractions on the internet, with legions of internet stalkers, following his every appearance on the web and attempting to mock him, much like I tried to mock Bobby Heenan when I was a 10 year old kid, by chanting "Weasel! Weasel!" at him. Bobby would tell us to shut up, then go over to Rodger Kent's table and tell him to make us brats shut up, and then act flustered that we were calling him names. It was great fun as a kid, and *Bobby was the best.* A little acknowledged fact is Bobby thought highly of Greg's in ring abilities, saying decades later that his weasel suit matches with Greg were great, and The High Flyers were amongst his favorite people to work with. When the GOAT praises you, you gotta be pretty dang good at your job. And the fact that Greg can get 30+ year old men, figuratively shrieking via keyboard at his video clips, when they don't even get a reaction out of Greg (like we did from Bobby), speaks volumes to his continued ability to be a personality and draw attention. Or, maybe it says something about grown ass men, acting like children. I dunno. 🤷♂ Anyway, have a wonderful day and God bless ya. 👍
@@jasonmilam9080 They are a dynasty eclipsing Vince in some regard. They had a hand in training more talent that went on to be top draws than most. Vince has never trained anyone for anything, other than depravity and accepting being pooped on, while being rammed by one of Vince's buddies. God bless ya.
Wow Greg, you booked a whole year of storylines in just one week! Guess WCW didn't need Mike Graham, Bill Dundee, Dusty Rhodes, Jim Ross, or Ole Anderson on the booking committee. Why did they fire Bill Watts if you were a one man wrecking crew?
Ok so let's use actual logic here. Greg Gagne at his best was 215 to 220 lbs. There is simply no way that 90s WCW was going to use him as one of their top guys. I would buy putting him on the 1st or 2nd match on the card. This is the problem with listening to a Greg Gagne interview. You know that he's working the interviewer.
Hey Greg, didn't Kevin Nash say you were always hiding in one of the back rooms playing cards while he was there? You were lifting weights with Bill Watts at the age of 12? Maybe you cleaned off the bench for him at best while Bill was sweating. I don't remember Watts coming to the AWA until around 1966 or so when you were 17.
There's no way WCW were giving him the wage of the top guys. They might have told him that as they offered him 100k or something but if he believed that then that says it all
What towns were WCW running weekly back in 1993? If Bill Watts learned alot from Verne then why did Bill have to hire Greg to tell him what Bill already learned from Verne.
I've lost a lot of respect for Greg in recent years. He makes it sound like he was solely responsible for every significant angle in professional wrestling. It was all his idea, then somebody stole it and took the credit. He's full of it.
He looked like and was built like an accountant and had all the charisma of a used tampon. So of course he was going to be on the same money as legends like Flair, Sting and Luger🙄
So why those people didn't keep him as WCW head of creation if he was still the Booker WCW would have beaten WWE. But after 99 and up to 2000 they brought in Vince Russo. And everything went down hill
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If you asked him what day of the week it was he’d say “well years ago before they named the days it was just sun up sun down. Nobody kept track. But then I came up with this great idea…”
I used to work with a guy like this
He said after 20 minutes on his first day they made him one of the company managers
Some people are just mental and believe the stuff they say
Greg Gagne booked every single thing in WCW up until early 1999 and that's why you see such a decline in the product. But he let Bischoff take the credit because that's just the kind of guy he is 😂
I find it very, very, very hard to believe that WCW saw Greg Gagne as a "top guy" in the same category as Lex Luger, Sting, and Ric Flair, all past, present, and/or future world champions. Greg Gagne wasn't even a world champion in his father's own territory.
Greg definitely could command Stinger money back in 1992($500,000). Well, maybe $50,000 anyway. Did you forget Greg that Jim Herd left the company in Jan 1992?
No fan who suffered through watching WCW could never forget Jim Herd.@@curthennig9448
In another interview, Greg said he rejected the world title reigns...he didn't need to give that rub to the belts, he already was an attraction
@@john_WayneRidesAgain WCWs belt wasn't worth 1/10th of what the AWAs belt was. Greg made the right call there! His father would have been embarrassed.
Because his dad wanted him tag teams. And Greg didn't want to pursue the title.
Back in '72 ...Verne was having trouble getting his shows on TV. Greg suggested there should be a network, maybe even cable channel, that aired strictly sports, some marketing people took it and ran with it
6:00 apparently the secret to keeping things going is the Dusty finish. AWA was constantly overturning title changes when I watched them in the 80s on ESPN
Yeah and they would be very inconsistent about when they would overturn a decision and when they wouldn't. Even as a kid I remember being very frustrated by this
This is who TK needs to bring in to save AEW. Absolute genius.
100!
No way in the early 90s WCW offerred to pay Greg like their top guys aka Sting
I have watched pro wrestling since the 60’s. I’ve never heard of World Championship Wrestling Wrestling.
Bill Watts did his dad a favor by bringing him into WCW after his wrestling career was over by age. I'm sure one of his big ideas was getting Turner to buy the defunct AWA from his dad for alot of money. But as for the rest. Greg is always good at telling stories.
He did pitch having AWA vs. NWA championship matches each year in a Back to the Territories shoot with Jim Cornette for Kayfabe Commentaries.
SEPARATED AT BIRTH ! VERNE GAGNE / JOE GARAGIOLA SR. !
Greg was real good in the ring. I enjoyed his matches. As a tag team especially. However he embellishes a lot of what he says, if not just outright lying. If he said he taught Abe Lincoln how to wrestle and gave him a top hat and told him to be president it would be par for the course. CBS was about to sign a massive deal with the AWA...suuuuuuuure they were.
Geez, I'd loved that and it probably would've kept me a fan. I quit myself because of, (can't believe I'm admitting this.) Umm, I quit when they made Naitch cut his hair. I wanted the old 6:05 Crockett show to go on forever. Being up in New Haven, I grew w/McMahon's circus so when TBS came to town and JCP's show came on I was hooked. It was slightly more adult oriented + having an older brother + sister I was geared towards more mature. Then the thought of Flair go to NY. made me ill. I missed the Attitude Era 'cuz I'd sworn to never watch Naitch 'Do a Job' for anyone so nothing made me wretch more than to have heard he had gotten so insecure that he was willing to do jobs for Meathead Hogan. Not once but all over the U.S.. This was like free therapy. I don't have to worry about anyone reading this. I mean I find Greg's story telling interesting, cuz he's been around but I can't believe many modern day snarky wrestling fan will watch or read this. My embarrassment for admitting all that is bullshit because nobody will read the comments on the clip. 😏
Well, there goes my theory that nobody will read this. Thanks a lot. Well, I went to Catholic schools and my need to Confess is probably greater than my embarrassment that people did read my response. Again, Thanks a lot 😏
I thought I was the only person who thought Flair getting a haircut signaled a sort of a turning point in his career and the business.
@@Shannon-tm7ek I come from the long haired generation and looking back I can't believe what I missed ALL BECAUSE of The Nature's Boy haircut. However, after reading + watching much of what I'd missed I'm sort-of glad because after reading how scumbag Herd + Biscoff treated Flair I'm glad I didn't watch.
AWA vs NWA at rhat point would heve not been a good idea.
1) the awa was dead and gone by 95 when Nitro began and the Monday Night Wars started. It officially died in 91, but let’s be honest: it had been dead long before that. Its audience had dwindled to next to nothing, Verne was leveraging personal property to keep it going, and they had long since stopped producing stars, ratings, decent ticket sales or buy rates. The average fan in 96 couldn’t tell you 2 facts about the American Wrestling Association. No one cared. Having WCW feud with the AWA made ZERO sense to anyone with their head in reality.
2) He came into WCW under a “nice.. nice contract” *eyeroll*, “making the same money as their top guys were making” - if you’re a person who believes in the “many worlds” theory, that is to say the theory that there are an infinite number of universes within an infinite multiverse with an infinite amount of possibilities and differences that distinguish themselves from each other, that’s fine. However, in NONE of them was GREG FREAKIN’ GAGNE making the kind of money STING AND FLAIR WERE.
Actually Flair wasn't around during the timeframe he was talking about(1992). The AWA had no name value in 1994.
@@curthennig9448 I realize Flair was in the WWF at the time (my favorite Royal Rumble actually. “With a tear in my eye…”). I was simply using Flair as another example of a top guy who typically was in WCW. But we can insert Luger, Vader, etc. Either way, I will never buy that WCW issued a contract with that kind of money to Greg Gagne. And no, I agree, by 94, the AWA had no name value. It died such a slow, quiet death that by the time it was dead, most casuals wouldn’t have even known what it was.
@@BigDaddyPreach I got your Flair money reference. That was a great interview post Rumble with Flair, Perfect, and Heenan. Greg had been done wrestling for nearly 3 years by the fall of 1992. Jim Herd left the company in Jan 1992. Herd was not calling Greg to be a wrestler in WCW, that's for sure. Greg thinking the AWA name was going to be a big deal in 1994 is comical. It was pretty much official that the AWA was 6 feet under by the summer of 1988.
I was a huge AWA mark, but by the late 80s, only in the kayfabe wrestling magazines was the AWA a world title. Especially after the Stan Hansen fiasco. Does anyone ask Greg about that?
Every word sounds plausible to me. Bring on the haters. 🤣
Since Greg has retired from his illustrious Pro Wrestling career as a good guy, the most remarkable thing has happened.
He has apparently become one of the most popular Heel attractions on the internet, with legions of internet stalkers, following his every appearance on the web and attempting to mock him, much like I tried to mock Bobby Heenan when I was a 10 year old kid, by chanting "Weasel! Weasel!" at him. Bobby would tell us to shut up, then go over to Rodger Kent's table and tell him to make us brats shut up, and then act flustered that we were calling him names. It was great fun as a kid, and *Bobby was the best.* A little acknowledged fact is Bobby thought highly of Greg's in ring abilities, saying decades later that his weasel suit matches with Greg were great, and The High Flyers were amongst his favorite people to work with. When the GOAT praises you, you gotta be pretty dang good at your job. And the fact that Greg can get 30+ year old men, figuratively shrieking via keyboard at his video clips, when they don't even get a reaction out of Greg (like we did from Bobby), speaks volumes to his continued ability to be a personality and draw attention. Or, maybe it says something about grown ass men, acting like children. I dunno. 🤷♂
Anyway, have a wonderful day and God bless ya. 👍
He’s a mark for himself. The Gagne family would be a dynasty eclipsing Vince if a 10th of his dribble were true.
Yep, they offered him the money the top guys were making, totally plausable....
@@jasonmilam9080 They are a dynasty eclipsing Vince in some regard. They had a hand in training more talent that went on to be top draws than most. Vince has never trained anyone for anything, other than depravity and accepting being pooped on, while being rammed by one of Vince's buddies.
God bless ya.
Wow Greg, you booked a whole year of storylines in just one week! Guess WCW didn't need Mike Graham, Bill Dundee, Dusty Rhodes, Jim Ross, or Ole Anderson on the booking committee. Why did they fire Bill Watts if you were a one man wrecking crew?
Hey now, I'll bet they taped Gregs plan to the frig and everything!
Good
Hurting Greg's back, Fatwell has Greg in a rage - he wants Fatwell in a cage!
Ok so let's use actual logic here. Greg Gagne at his best was 215 to 220 lbs. There is simply no way that 90s WCW was going to use him as one of their top guys. I would buy putting him on the 1st or 2nd match on the card. This is the problem with listening to a Greg Gagne interview. You know that he's working the interviewer.
Probably 190lbs at most.
Rob Feinstein was too dumb to know he was getting worked.
Hey Greg, didn't Kevin Nash say you were always hiding in one of the back rooms playing cards while he was there? You were lifting weights with Bill Watts at the age of 12? Maybe you cleaned off the bench for him at best while Bill was sweating. I don't remember Watts coming to the AWA until around 1966 or so when you were 17.
He went to work for World Championship Wrestling Wrestling?
How do you know? You werent there
There's no way WCW were giving him the wage of the top guys. They might have told him that as they offered him 100k or something but if he believed that then that says it all
What towns were WCW running weekly back in 1993? If Bill Watts learned alot from Verne then why did Bill have to hire Greg to tell him what Bill already learned from Verne.
I haven't seen all of these. Does anyone ask him about the Stan Hansen fiasco?
I've lost a lot of respect for Greg in recent years. He makes it sound like he was solely responsible for every significant angle in professional wrestling. It was all his idea, then somebody stole it and took the credit. He's full of it.
He looked like and was built like an accountant and had all the charisma of a used tampon. So of course he was going to be on the same money as legends like Flair, Sting and Luger🙄
Tampons have charisma?
Mello yellow greg gagne 💚
Greg may have had Sciattica
So why those people didn't keep him as WCW head of creation if he was still the Booker WCW would have beaten WWE. But after 99 and up to 2000 they brought in Vince Russo. And everything went down hill
My bullshit meter is pegged at 100%!
You say your contract was really good just like their top guys. Sure it was. You mean more like their bottom guys
SEPARATED AT BIRTH ! GREG GAGNE / TULLY BLANCHARD ! 🤔
NWO or AWA...easy choice really.
He was too scientific for the WCW but perfect for the business side.
He seems like a great guy but he’s full of it
sad that Greg's back was bad as he would have been a huge draw for WCW as a wrestler
he’s like hunter biden
surely this dude doesn't believe his own bullshate, right?
I don't believe much of what he's saying and the AWA had little to no value in the mid 90s.
Greg gagne was nobody in the business useless...