Reacting To My Top 50 Players for 2023!
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00:00 - Intro
0:23 - 50 Justin Verlander
3:13 - 49 George Springer
4:35 - 48 Luis Robert Jr.
6:38 - 47 Bo Bichette
8:01 - 46 Matt Olson
9:11 - 45 Jeff McNeil
10:15 - 44 Wander Franco
11:43 - 43 Will Smith
13:05 - 42 Spencer Strider
15:12 - 41 Byron Buxton
17:24 - 40 Pete Alonso
19:04 - 39 Xander Bogaerts
20:49 - 38 Max Scherzer
22:07 - 37 Brandon Woodruff
23:23 - 36 Brandon Nimmo
25:22 - 35 Shane McClanahan
26:36 - 34 Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
28:30 - 33 Adley Rutschman
29:47 - 32 Zack Wheeler
30:58 - 31 Rafael Devers
32:43 - 30 Kyle Tucker
34:12 - 29 Austin Riley
35:40 - 28 Carlos Rodón
37:14 - 27 Corey Seager
38:42 - 26 Alex Bregman
40:08 - 25 J.T. Realmuto
42:07 - 24 Francisco Lindor
43:37 - 23 Aaron Nola
45:30 - 22 Jose Altuve
46:49 - 21 Gerrit Cole
48:29 - 20 Fernando Tatis Jr.
51:07 - 19 Bryce Harper
52:51 - 18 Ronald Acuña Jr.
55:19 - 17 Julio Rodríguez
57:17 - 16 Sandy Alcantara
59:33 - 15 Manny Machado
1:01:00 - 14 Trea Turner
1:02:48 - 13 Corbin Burnes
1:04:20 - 12 Carlos Correa
1:06:39 - 11 Paul Goldschmidt
1:09:03 - 10 Freddie Freeman
1:10:22 - 9 Jacob deGrom
1:12:59 - 8 Yordan Alvarez
1:14:56 - 7 José Ramírez
1:17:28 - 6 Mookie Betts
1:19:40 - 5 Nolan Arenado
1:21:51 - 4 Juan Soto
1:24:53 - 3 Mike Trout
1:27:18 - 2 Aaron Judge
1:28:47 - 1 Shohei Ohtani
1:31:31 - vs MLB Network
1:38:46 - Honorable Mentions
1:50:26 - Patreon
2023 Foolish 50: • MLB's Top 50 Players f... - กีฬา
Threatened my local theater with arson if they didn’t screen this, thanks Bailey!
Foolish = 🔥
Well, did they…
Arson Judge?
Be careful, with that criminal act you may have to appear before an arson judge!
@@astralflick my simple mention of a meme got more likes that your well crafted joke… This says a lot about society… 😔😔
No honorable mentions for Ha Seong Kim or JP Crawford is wild. Both had 5 WAR seasons
I think the honorable mentions are more referring to rookies and players who were close to making the cut when the list was originally being made. Otherwise honorable mentions would just be anyone with top 50 fwar who wasn't on the list. Like before the season started literally nobody would have predicted JP Crawford being a top 20 fwar guy (and I say this as a die hard Mariners fan).
what? this video isnt about the top 50 players in baseball, its about grading FBs preseason predictions vs the actual stats. he isnt regrading them
@@fredrio99at the end of the video is literally his section for “people that weren’t highly considered for the top 50 but were top 50 players”
@@pohorex6834I was talking about including them in the honorable mentions, particularly when he starts the last part of it for “players that were not highly considered for the top 50 but were top 50 players”
@@jaredgunderson6530 they were all considered for his top 50, that’s the point of it. JP and Ha Seong weren’t highly considered at all
5.8bwar (and 4.4fwar, w/ a gold glove) Ha-Seong Kim not making honorable mentions makes me mildly melancholic
Same. I've been all aboard the fanwagon with HSK since the Padres signed him, but I feel like he's still not getting the recognition he deserves.
the video fading out with witt jr and not hsk was one of the saddest endings a youtube video could have (not saying witt jr shouldn’t be an hm because he’s great but hsk is 🔛🔝‼️‼️)
Has to be on the foolish 50 next year. My favorite player in the mlb
A quick thought on Mookie. I think part of his decreased stolen base total is Freeman hitting behind him. Freeman walks a lot which sort of negates the benefit of stealing second and he's also an absolute extra base machine and Betts scores from first on any of those so I don't think he has a lot of incentive to steal right now along with the benefit of keeping his legs fresh so he can play 150+ games per year even as he ages. Just my thought. Very fun style of video and I look forward to next year's list.
deGroms 2.2 fWAR also indicates that he deserves his 23 WS ring because if a league average starter is in his place do they have the minimum wins to make the post season?
And Steele Walker is better than Ken Griffey Jr …
kinda interested we didnt see an adolis garcia HM. I understand why he didnt make the list and Ill understand when he doesnt make the 2024 list, but he had a 4.8 fwar season and a +8 FRV out in right field. deserves his flowers as much as anyone else in the honorable mentions even discounting his playoff heroics
he's kinda different to what is perceived as valuable with OPS as he's just gonna show up, crush baseballs and drive in about 100 runs in every year.
i'm not sure that bailey wont have garcia in his list. if george springer was on this list, the production the garcia put out will put him on this list, even if it's just at 50
Garcia definitely makes my list for 2024
I was disappointed that Logan Webb didn't make the 2023 list. With a solid 4.5 WAR season and his level of consistency and durability, I can see him putting together a top 30-40 season in 2024!
Let's go Giants!
And the only reason he has such a shitty record was cause of his run support🤦♂️. I’m pretty sure he was like 0-8 or 0-9 to start the season but had like a ERA in the 3s😂 go giants baby!
He’s an absolute horse. Incredibly underrated
Absolutely
Webb threw only 14 more pitches than Snell this year (3182 vs. 3168), but logged 36(!) more innings (216 vs. 180). That’s ludicrous.
Talk about different ways to becoming a Cy Young finalist
@@mnguyen313that’s an awesome stat
McNeil was definitely a victim of the shift ban and you see this in his second half splits: he was awful in the first half of the season but in August and September he started to put together a normal Jeff McNeil slash line. I think he took a while to figure it out and as a Mets fan it was nice to see him figure out how to hit again down the stretch
Also regarding Pete, his June through the ASG coming off the injury was his worst month of his career by far and he clearly wasn’t right yet. He figured it back out in August and had a great couple of months down the stretch. If he didn’t get plunked in the hand by Elder I think he would’ve put up 50+ Homers easily
@@Snazzeo It's also interesting that Pete had such an abhorrent BABIP after the shift ban. You gotta imagine that that's gonna revert to the mean at some point right?
@@nategutekunst5188 A lot of Pete's season goes into the garbage because of his injury at least for me but I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a TTO guy in his 30s like Schwarber
Franco should have been 14 on the list
😭😭😭
Yeah, Julio Franco is the ageless wonder, he could sign with any team and take over their first base position to this day.
@@Teenieweeniemussolini yes
Hey Bailey, you nailed it this time (as much as one can with a top 50). A suggestion: what about doing your own All-MLB ballots? Could make for a meaty video (esp. if you do 1st and 2nd teams), and I think it would fit right in with the "digesting the season" videos you normally do this time of year.
There's gonna be no way to give a 2024 ranking for Ohtani that everybody agrees with. If you put him #1 people will be mad since its hard to believe a post TJ full time DH puts together the best season of anyone. But any lower rank and people are mad because on a true talent basis, of course he is #1.
Being that this is a yearly list based off production, he shouldn’t be near #1. Top 25 for sure, we wouldn’t put prime David Ortiz or Edgar Martinez in that discussion.
It’s a ranking of next season so it’s obviously not based on him pitching, so if anyone gets mad it’s because they don’t understand the premise of the list.
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i'm gonna crumb
I'm sure Trout will make it back to his insane self. He is only 32 after all. But yeah he had never had under a .900 OPS (.939 actually) so it was weird to see him so shaky
That entire Angels team seemingly took a step back outside of Drury, Ohtani and the rooks, it was very odd to watch a bunch of proven MLB players fold in on themselves like that be it injury or whatever
I'm less sure only because he's got a degenerative back issue. So he'll come back and pop off well to start; but I don't believe we'll see Trout at his usual Hall of Fame self after this sadly.
This year revitalized my love for baseball, and in good part because of watching your content and actually looking into the more analytical side of things. (Also because SoRare was a fun fantasy baseball experience) The rules changes helped a lot too, and I just found myself excited to see just good players around the league ball out. The stolen base flurry also was a welcome addition. Looking forward to more vids and just baseball stuff in general!
The Vlad Jr. Gold Glove truly stands out amongst the worst award picks in recent memory
Up there with the Porcello Cy Young
I feel like this is such a retrospective take. Go look at the Defensive 2022 stats for AL 1st Basemen, they're really all just mid.
You could make the argument that some else deserved it sure. But it wasn't "the worst award pick"
@@cecilego3780 Qualified AL first baseman in 2022 with a higher OAA than Vlad: Owen Miller, Ryan Mountcastle, Josh Naylor, Ji Man Choi, Jose Abreu, Bobby Dalbec, Spencer Torkelson, Jared Walsh, Harold Castro (no idea who this is lol)
@@sethwoodhouse4797 I can cherry pick stats too. According to Fangraphs: Qualified AL First baseman in 2022 with a higher DRS than Vlad:
Do you think Gold Glove voters will/should be voting for Owen Miller, who started 71 games at 1st for 638 innings?
I remember at the time thinking Mountcastle should've won it. Him and Abreu are the only guys who had both a postive DRS (1) and positive OAA.
Defensive metrics are still really new.
@@cecilego3780 ok lol UZR and dWAR also didn’t like him. It’s not cherry picking if multiple categories agree
Would love a foolish 75 next year, know it doesn’t roll off the tongue but I’d love to know what you think about more baseball players, Bailey
Counterpoint to SS’s always do well further down the defensive spectrum: Hanley Ramirez. Never seen a worse LF. Granted he barely held his own at SS in the first place.
Great work by the way. Love the reviews on predictions like this. Most people don’t do this.
So much work went into this video. Great job.
One of my fav video series every year are your player rankings!! Thanks Bailey!
Buxton broke my heart as a Twins fan 😪 but interested in seeing if Pablo Lopez makes your list in 2024! He has all the makings of a true ace and I’m elated he’s under team control for a couple more years
Lopez is definitely a top 50 player, I'm just not sure where he sits. I'd tentatively put him 20-25 and Correa 45-50 for 2024, but the rest of the Twins have too many question marks.
Great video! I already watched all of it!
Semien is THE odd year guy. Leave him off in 24'. I started to feel bad, but he has a ring to look at. Big fan of him whichever way. He's one of the good guys of baseball.
Great work bailey, next year you think we could get the ops for the players on the stat sheet?
Look forward to these every year Bailey!
Trea turners offensive season reminded me of Marcus semien’s 2022 offensive season. I think it’s very reasonable to expect him to be back to form the same way semien was this year.
wow this is actual facts
Ricky Karcher posted a 0.00 ERA, allowed 0 H/9, and converted 100% of save opportunities. He should be on your 2024 list. Don’t ask about his FIP, strike %, walks, or watch any game film however.
Great vid as always
Great list as always Bailey
the georgia in your voice really came out when you said dubyaRC+ during bichette's
Really enjoy these type of ranking / reaction videos. I’ve started to get into stats the past few years myself and ranking players. It’s always interesting to me how much some players can fluctuate from year to year. I’m especially curious to see how people rank Ohtani for next year.
New to the channel and this is my first video your content is awesome man keep goin
2 HOURS?!? THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US, BAILEY 🙏
Love this video! Suggestion for next year's ranking - make a 51st spot that you give to your rookie breakout pick.
Perfect background video for being at the gym. Thanks Foolish!
You absolutely killed it this year!!
Crazy that we live in an era that when looked back on when you are casting your vote for the HOF you will have to consider that a player was great, but was missing certain awards because that 6-10 year window where Ohtani ruled the game of baseball.
Players in the early 2000s NL be like
Trout ruled the AL from 2012 to 2019, Ohtani has only been the number one player from 2021-23 and he won't be next year either.
This is a complete video, a fantastic video
Always love to see a foolish video drop!
Real jealous bout those strider digits
Yessssssssss ive been waiting for this!!!
I was very salty about Manoah when you posted the Foolish 50. I can wholeheartedly say that I was wrong, you were right.
The moral of the story is that ERA is NOT a predictive metric.
@@chesschad81There isn't any stat that could have predicted the shitshow that was Manoah's season.
@@unkledoda420 All the projection systems (which are based purely on statistics) predicted a big decline last year. His HR/FB and BABIP were both strong indicators of a lucky 2022. I expected a decline for the 2023 reason, just not quite to the extent that it ended up being.
As a Royals fan, I know I'm biased, but I was waiting the whole video for the Bobby Witt Jr. mention. Thanks Bailey
I mean he’s a top 2 shortstop in the league only behind Seager, I think he belongs up in the 20th range
Requesting said hour long ramble on striders fastball 😇
Thanks for all the content foolish
1:08:15 i think is the most fired up ive ever seen Bailey and i completely agree
This video is literally comfort
JRam is built for Cleveland. He looks like the fans. A husky working man yet he’s like a super hero out there. Crushing the baseball, using his speed on the base pads and on defense. A true inspiration for kids who don’t believe they are “built” for professional baseball. Love the guy.
You should do a player performance/value top 50 ranking for the 2023 season and see how your list compares
What about the OOTP sim you ran that had the Rangers making the LCS? Good shit
It used to be we thought mcneil went good year bad year good year bad year, but perhaps he just decides to do whatever the opposite of what bailey thinks he will do. Please keep him off the list this year
Curious why you weren't happy with Logan Webbs 2022 when it was his career year.. until this year lol
Straight up called my man a husk and didn’t even flinch
I think for Machado it’s worthy of noting that he was playing through injuries the entire season and still was able to hit 30 bombs with incredible defense. It’ll be hard to project him moving forward tho as he’s getting surgery in the off season. I think when right he has the potential to be a top 15 player again
I LOVE HEARING FOOLISH TALK FOR HOURS LET’S GO
2 favorite videos every year
A critique I and many others had of Cole was his tendency to overthink, so in hindsight it should've been easier for us to see what cutting that time down on the mound would do for him
While that certainly matters for starters, it’s impossible to quantify reliably. When predicting seasons you kinda have to ignore those biases.
curious where william contreras falls in your opinion, the large defensive strides he made this season as well as hitting .290 has gotta put him at least close to the top 50 to me
YES OMG I LOVE YOU BAILEY FOR THR FAYE WEBSTER REFERENCE
1:01 talking about Trea Turner pick “not me though, I am a very special boy” 😂 hilarious
I've been waiting patiently for this video just to find out youtube never told me it came out.
Robert Witt, Junior would like a word
I scrolled for a little while and didn't see it mentioned - your Correa footage is Goldschmidt one place early. It repeats for Goldy's actual spot one later. (Loved all 1:51:27 and married into a Furman Paladin family, it's all love Bailey 💙)
How much do I have to donate on patron for a 58 minute foolish bailey video breaking down fastballs from Spencer strider and the reasons it the best?
Ha! The Pee-tah stuff was hilarious and your self-breakdown was spot on.
The fact that the Twins won a playoff series with their 2 best players completely flopping has me very excited thinking about their ceiling as a team for 2024
who was 2? Correa and Buxton? But I agree, with the surge of Royce and Wallner securing their main roster spots hopefully a full season of Grand Slam Lewis gives us more ability to trade some pieces for more offense
It helps when your opponents score a total of one run over 18 innings
@@sealeo5772I’m a Jays fan; FUCK that Jays team they were terrible to watch all season
@@sealeo5772 *When your pitching holds the opponent to one run in 18 innings.
Unfortunately the Twins are cutting payroll drastically and have lost a lot of their pitching, and they'll have to trade key line-up depth to shore that up. Correa will probably bounce back somewhat, but Buxton can't be counted on and Lewis is injury prone as well, and my estimate is that the Twins will be a worse team next season.
was excited to watch this and reflect on the 2023 season and left feeling sad about starting pitchers. excited about what some of the sophomores show in 2024 but scared for some of the younger guys who threw a ton of innings (webb, gallen especially with the playoff innings) after sandy looked unfazed by his innings load through the start of his career. worrying about great players instead of just being excited sucks as a fan.
13:13 very cheeky brag Bailey haha
Me waiting one hour fifty one minutes and twenty five seconds: Where's Bobby Witt?
Me at one hour fifty one and twenty six seconds: VINDICATION
BANG
Yeah I remember he just forgot to put Altuve on the list. It must be hard to think of every single player who would be in conversation for the top 50 without forgetting anyone.
How about making a new top 50 for the finished season and then comparing the pre and post season lists?
An additional reason to place Webb among the best NL pitchers for 2024 is Patrick Bailey's ability to frame his changeups at an elite level.
Just took 3 separate naps during this video, thank you Bailey
I feel like you have to add more value for high WAR at positions like CF, SS, C, and relief pitchers because they are highly valued and in the case of catcher and reliever, much more difficult to get high WAR
Need to do a playoff top 25 that would be a really cool video to watch
I would love to see a video on catcher defensive metrics and the impact of umpires they have. It seems like a ton of hand waving to me. You could have told me realmuto had a great defensive year or a bad one and I would have believed you either way.
I could listen to you educate commenters all day long. “Past stats are great, but I predicted this years stats” great stuff as always. Appreciate the content.
Hey, past performance is the best indicator of future performance tbf
@@mattcollett9370 if that was the case then people would be great forever
@@mattcollett9370 Foolish does these videos because 1 he loves baseball 2 entertainment 3 he loves baseball but predicting anything is a rough business. Past performance is a great tool to use but only one of many different ways you could attempt to predict a player’s performance against his peers. Ballpark, age, where he hits in the lineup, teams in division, babib, consistency etc. What he’s saying is “so n so did this last year” isn’t relevant to his ranking next year because he already did his research to predict top 50, and I’m sure he may have glanced over last year’s numbers already so no one is telling him anything he doesn’t already know.
i just got into baseball in 2020 and ive been slowly paying more and more attention and what ive noticed is with a big free agent signing where they are changing scenery, ignore the first season, they will be great in the second year
That has definitely been the trend lately
@@FoolishBailey yoooooo u replied 🥹. btw im a huge reds fan and if u havent u should really look at matt mcclain as a potential candidate for the 5 players you like video. potentually could be due for a sophomore slump but in 86 games he put up 3.7 war hitting .290 with 16 bombs. everyone talks about elly but i think hes the future superstar on the reds
I think a good thing to keep in mind for the next iteration of the rankings is that the Padres just had a really really weird season. That being said, I’m low on Machado for next season
1:09:39 so wholesome Bailey being so proud of his son
I’m interested in seeing how statcast ends up generating the FRV, because springer in the negative seems a little weird
Well for next year's list, Bobby Witt Jr. would have to make it. Probably in the Top 20. I'm kinda shocked you didn't mention him once.
What playing for the royals does for an mf’s reputation. He really is talked about way too little for how good of a season he had lol
Yup. Shoulda been here
Not to grasp at straws or anything, but Bobby Witt Jr. was in fact mentioned exactly once in this video, at the very end
@@TrevorX3Really? As an honourable mention, which he basically got, sure but nothing else.
@@cadecarruthers6638 Damn, I had stopped the video by then. He really did wait until the bitter end lol
Julio would’ve benefitted from less plate appearances lmao he was pretty horrendous in the last few weeks
Regarding Acuña and his defense--he just has such an uncomfortable jump out there and doesn't look great tracking balls. Obviously the arm is incredible but given his base-stealing prowess and the jump he's able to get on the base paths it's kind of surprising to me that that jump doesn't translate nearly as well to the outfield
Rafael Palmerio won a Good Glove in 1999 having only played 38 games in the field. This is the most extreme example I have, but you get the idea. They hand these things out based off of your bat more than anything else.
I really like Nico Hoerner and Ha-Seong Kim. Surprised that at least Kim didn’t make the honorable mentions.
Soto had a 1.026 away stats compared to like a .850 home
1:30:58 | “That’s pi” might be my favorite Bailey quote of all time
Already had my comment typed so you’re lucky you mentioned our king BWJ 😤😤
Excited to see if Snell and Raleigh make the cut going into next season
FOOLISH!!! How DARE you forget to include Bobby Witt Jr. ROYALS TAKING IT HOME THIS YEAR BABY!!!
Despite growing several inches after signing, Julio was still moving his legs like a smaller player.
So coaches had him watch and mimic tape of Aaron Judge.
Bailey for the love of god please fix the crooked coax plate (next to the outlet) it’s driving me insane!
As a Phillies fan, I also don't think JT calls pitches that well
Can tell you're proud of how the list turned out by the fact that this video is feature length. Take a victory lap, take several, even.
Youre my fav youtuber
1:30:57 idk why but just you quickly going thats pi cracked me up
Using fWAR for pitchers. Bold move.
No Belli or Steele mentions? They killed it this year.
I would have to think Gallen is gonna demand more attention after the last couple seasons of 4-5 fwar.
When you finally mentioned Bobby at the end :,)
Hey Bailey, I’m not an A’s fan, but I heavily sympathize with the Oakland area & fanbase dealing with John Fisher. Would love to see you do some Athletics content to eulogize the loss of the A’s.
I watched Moneyball so many times as a kid. It’s crazy that there’s only one more season in The Coliseum and only two more with the A’s in Oakland.