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- Plastic pollution is getting worse - despite widespread public awareness of the problem, massive investment in recycling, and years of pledges to stop polluting. So what do we get wrong when we talk about ocean plastic? A lot, it turns out.
Business Insider Producer Elizabeth McCauley dives into the scientific literature and talks to experts to find out how we actually solve this problem.
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My desire is to see single-use plastics be required to be compostable & long term plastics to be recyclable, as a standard. We still need to produce less, but plastics & the other uses of hydrocarbons will be around for many decades beyond when we shift from burning hydrocarbons for electricity, heat and/or transportation.
And how are you going to get the electricity? Or the rare metals used to make the batteries? Look at what it takes to mine lithium and other metals that those batteries use and tell me how that is good for the environment.
@@sithyarael6807 In comparison to coal and oil it is a greener alternative. Nobody sensible looks at heavy metal mining and extraction in particular thinking that this is not an environmentally damaging practice.
We need to hold the big companies accountable for the damage they cause and the billions spent on the cleanup as a result
I think Cali is suing ExxonMobil for lying about recycling plastic
Capitalize the profits. Socialize the losses.
Consumers are also responsible in what they spend their money on.
@@botmsj how? I tried to go waste free and it's literally impossible where I live. Everything in covered in plastic. Paper packaging has plastic liners now. I managed to get all my cleaning products/shampoo n soap 100 waste free but most food? It's not happening
The only people we need to hold accountable are OURSELVES! Quit blaming other people for your over consumption. The only person you can control is yourself, someone start there.
I'm actually surprised this channel presents the information at 2:24-3:10 like a novelty. It is well known how some species use floating plastic as "home". The bigest issues: it degrades into micro plastics which then enters the food chain. Yet another issue: it might become little Noah's Arks for invasive species since, instead of wood and any other biological body (leaves, coconuts algae) rapidly being consumed by microorganisms, it travels thousands of miles more thus bringing species to new places.
Resume: corporate greed is destroying our 🌎.
I disagree that it was presented as a novelty. Both scientists etc were just being frank and factual. They weren’t embellishing especially in the short clipped versions of what they said. But we are pre programmed by the media at the moment to expect emotionally driven arguments so it can be unusual just here straight facts, there was no good or bad idea pushed it was, “this is what’s actually happening” was the idea and it is interesting how nature has adapted. It wasn’t a don’t feel guilty because the patch has life argument. I think most of those people wish that nature didn’t have to evolve to deal with our crap but it has and that’s interesting.
this seems like blamins big companies instead of "us"
but also "absolving" those big companies, because "plastic is part of the ecosystem"
It is still us because we don’t require our politicians to make the necessary laws. Corporations are just doing what they must do within the law. Actually, I take that back. It’s the media not portraying the problem properly, because politicians listen to the media.
Give up your cell phone and your pc then we will talk.
It's definitely the big corporations. The constant search for the "cheapest" and "most profitable" obviously has had terrible consequences as we've shifted away from glass and metals to plastics. I'll blame us when they stop making everything wrapped in plastic, we don't have much of a choice to not use plastic. Lmk what you think
@@janwikon maybe you should stop buying their products then, which will be quite difficult unless you actually go out and farm yourself
@@Bobspineableyes that's the *entire* point.
There are actually a lot of lies when it comes to environment topic. While there are real issues, the missinformation is so bad sometimes that I actually feel manipulated. Unfortunately, while there might be short term gains from all this missinformation, it does a lot more harm on the long term...
Scientists don't help either by having a constant adversarial nature with the public. Climate skepticism was able to take off in the first place because scientists refused to address the concerns of some math nerds in Canada (they assumed they worked for big oil, they were just math nerds who noticed their math was wrong).
@@toastedt140scientists outright lied about the data of the ozone hole. I still remember that.
look up Andreas Reitmeir, a german guy who invented a way to separate mix plastic with electricity because they have different properties, and he demonstrated etc and because he didnt want to transfer the patent, and deny him funding for "distortion of competition". Mind you, thats what he claims, but worth looking into. If true, its a pretty big deal
then they blame south east Asian countries for all the plastics on the pacific
Don't forget how much of it is ghost nets from fishermen.
considering they are penalising countries who were already enviormentaly concious instead of countries who were very lax with their garbage diaposal°°°
kind of a tell, actually.
have one question what else
FOLLOW THE MONEY...stop drinking / consuming Coke & Pepsi products. Wean yourself off those drinks. They aren't good for you. It starts with us. I guarantee you if American's boycotted just Coke & Pepsi products, they would get the message! Hit them where it counts, THEIR WALLET!
The literal point of the video is saying that we aren't the problem, 75% to 86% is from the fishing industry, drinking coke is not the problem, did you watch the video? The real issue is the fishing companies what are you on?
@@v.richard9993she specifically mentioned the beverage industry, perhaps you didn’t realize this video isn’t just focused on the pacific patch but instead plastic pollution in a broader sense including beaches
There is way more companies then just Coke and Pepsi that uses plastics, it literally any food company.
I would imagine that these companies are heavily incentivized to look for an alternative and are looking. B/c If they do find an alternative they would win everything. This is the way forward. If they stop using plastics they lose and another company fills the spot so it is a bit naive I think to request they stop. They will stop when it doesn't kill them to stop. Just like you will buy plastic until you can afford not to. And a rebuttal that consists of "make them all stop then" doesnt work because using some plastics are life and death for many people. So now what? "We can decide which ones are necessary and keep those" ok.. who decides? "People, companies, experts make their case and we vote on it" .......ok who votes?.....The whole world....each country....each state? "Yes".......yes what?
Maybe if there's a company that finds an economical/commercially viable way to perform those cleanup duties, and then they could place a value on how much carbon could be saved by reclaiming and recycling that plastic, then they could probably turn right back around to these companies and sell them carbon credits. These companies would have the incentives to purchase those carbon credits to reduce their taxes, while at the same time they could run PR campaigns of how they're funding scrapers to clean up the environment; meanwhile, the companies that would be doing the actual cleaning, would actually have a list of "customers" (from food/beverage companies, the cruise/cargo ship lines, Google/FB, etc) with funding secured from them to run the cleanup projects. Such company could even be an NPO instead and run fundraising events for carbon credits.
Cleaning up is not the solution.
Banning production is the only solution.
Recycling is just putting more plastic in consumers hands.
Europe is tryin to enforce ban on single use plastics and actually every other single use materials in food industry ......and boy it's hard....Law has been in place and voted back in 2018 with deadlines around end 2019 for most of countries....now in 2024 the song is "ok maybe next year....let's say max 2030 😊"
We are not there yet
Alternatives like paper or wood means you cut down trees. That may not be the best solution either. Plastics has its advantages and may be the most environmentally sound solution in some circumstances.
All three are solutions and MUST happen
Recycling is a joke.
I can't wait for the video to come out next year telling me that this video was all wrong and there's actually an entirely different reason.
The problem with this whole story is that there are three parts to it: reduce, reuse, and recycle. And it is only recycling that receives any real attention. And where does the recycling domain reside? With the consumer. So, arguably the biggest polluters of all - manufacturers - are making huge amounts of money, and divorcing themselves from the cost of reducing and reusing. And that is really where the problem really lies. It's time to recognize this and come up with solutions to coerce them into changing their ways of working. And this should not be allowed to include threats to consumers of price increases. That is patent nonsense. It is time that they and their shareholders who travel the world in private jets, private yachts (motorized), live in concrete monoliths, etc. came to the party and got real about their contribution to taking care of our planet.
You have been raised to be a consumer, viva la capitalism.
I hope we can make them make easier plastics to recycle. Or make BIO plastics that will breakdown and not harm the environment.
Bio plastics are generally not much better at breaking down. In many cases they are identical to petro-chemical plastics, it is just that the source material is not fossil oil.
ฉันคิดว่าเรื่องแรกที่ควรคำนึงถึงคือการควบคุมการขยายตัวของพื้นที่ ที่ปนเปื้อน เราคงไม่สามารถกรองเอาพลาสติกออกจากน้ำทะเล แต่เราสามารถรักษาพื้นที่ ที่ยังไม่ปนเปื้อนเอาไว้ และควบคุมพื้นที่ ที่ปนเปื้อนไม่ให้ขยายตัวและหาวิธีลดปริมาณขยะสะสมลง นี่คือสิ่งที่เราสามารถโฟกัสได้ การควบคุมพื้นที่สามารถใช้กฏหมาย การแซงชั่นทางการค้าช่วยได้ และเราต้องการแผนที่ ที่แน่นอนของพื้นที่ ที่จะกำหนดเป็นพื้นที่อนุรักษ์และพื้นที่ควบคุม นี่คงเป็นสิ่งที่เราสามารถทำได้เป็นรูปธรรมและเราต้องการความร่วมมือในการควบคุมพื้นที่จากทุกๆประเทศครับ
Gotta love an honest documentary that doesn’t get political. Period
I'm sick of doing my part for recycling, only to be told we aren't doing enough.
No. Once I put my trash/Recycling out, that's my part done. After that, up to the companies.
Maybe hold the manufacturers that PRODUCE plastic accountable.
Ban plastics say UN. Yet there are plastic water bottles at the conference!! Do as I say, not as I do.
Honestly I agree with banning plastic. We don't need plastic for everything. we did fine without it. There are alternatives. Drinks should NEVER come in plastic. Glass was and still is absolutely viable. Beer certainly has never stopped being sold in glass bottles. Why is it the only one to largely remain glass? Everything else would benefit from it. We could bring back the much more sustainable bottle recycling where they simply wash them and reuse them.
almost as there is no alternatives yet bay banning it they can move to glass or cans
I wish they could simplify recycling labeling and make it super obvious. Like on a shampoo bottle there needs to be a recycling logo with a big green check mark as large as the brand logo.
I've heard there's now more plastic than all the biomass of the fish...
Not much fish left
Hope The Ocean Cleanup can make a difference.
I suspect most of the dangers in the ocean are unseen. I know radioactive dumping was a thing for a while.
Not really an issue. Things such as Russia dumping all their old nuclear subs/reactors in the same locations in the ocean are hardly a problem considering the material stays in that location and the radiation does not penetrate through water very far at all.
This Girl Jeans that wie Not Hase a Problem in world with Plastik?😂 you Lire😂
Damn the education system failed you
Imagine how horrible it is for oceanic life with all that garbage tangling and harming them
someone didn't watch the video lol
Now also imagine how horrible it will be to bite into a piece of Coke bottle in your fish at your sushi birthday dinner. I'm finding more and more humans respond much better towards selfish losses. It'll mess us up too. People are already finding microplastics in drinking water.
Good show well done
i'm being lied to? the shock! anyway...
Ban commercial fishing and save the oceans. Simple as that. Leave commercial fishing as it is and oceans will not survive much longer.
What about all the sea turtles, dolphins, and other marine mammals and fish that get snarled in this plastic mishegas? 🤷🏻♀️ this clip is doing us a disservice by saying “oh well, it’s all ok!” 👎🏻
EDIT: 2:56
It's called propaganda, were you not watching the video?
It'd be nice if people could be honest about environmental issues. Unfortunately, there's so much money and political power involved in the machine now, there's little incentive for that. It's far easier to exploit people's fears and sense of guilt to get access to the money and power, so that's what the powers that be do. It's no longer about solving any sort of environmental issue. It's about utilizing the issue for profit and political control. This is why I really respect guys like the folks at Ocean Cleanup who are the ones featured cleaning up the Pacific "garbage patch." They have put years of work into developing these trawler systems both for rivers and open ocean to collect garbage while minimizing the impact on wildlife and it's a real treasure to see what they've been able to do with it. They are the kind of people we need more of - doing good work for the right reasons, and ultimately we all benefit from their efforts. If we had more people doing work like this and fewer hawking the latest and greatest in Chinese battery and low-reliability renewables (which of course they have a personal stake in), we'd end up with a cleaner environment overall.
Lots of new information here for me! Great investigation.
Bottom line I guess you can't believe pretty much anything in this world. Our government lies, our politicians lie, TV news lies, the internet lies, my dog lies, on the couch. The bright light in this story, Elizabeth is very attractive. Thanks I am here all week, good night everybody, drive safely.
If you reduce the amount of plastic, what will remain in its place? I mean, you said yourself that even paint contains plastic. If we are talking about disposable items, or food packaging, you will be taking away the ability to preserve them, and using paper packaging is not the solution, since you need to deforest areas to plant trees and it takes more energy to make a paper bag than a plastic one. I'm not even talking about shopping bags, but packaging. For things produced on the spot, for immediate consumption, ok, but what about products that will stay on the shelves for days? Every paper box needs plastic, even aluminum cans need an insulating layer.
I agree about reducing chemicals, but I don't know how much this would impact the varieties needed to supply the industries.
In the end, it is very easy to say to stop doing something, but not to suggest a viable alternative.
Part of the video's theme is that there isn't any one and done solution.
@@shawnsgyes but it left out incineration. Most environmentalists won’t even look at that option but it’s far better than landfills.
I think it's a good solution to not need 20 different brands of bread wrapped in plastic on supermarket shelves. You need a bakery on every neighborhood with fresh bread that gets wrapped in paper when someone buys it. Juices, milk, detergent, soaps can all be sold in bulk or with vending machines in reusable glass/stainless bottles. Cheeses, ham etc can also be sold as a fresh cut and not need a plastic container. And food that is not sold should be used for animal feed or compost in a large organized scale.
I may be missing something here and of course those changes are not easy to implement especially in megacities, however I think it's a good idea and achievable at least for Europe. But it requires passing laws that don't enforce all these practices strictly, the laws should favor and encourage those practices and let the people choose them because they are best for them.
@@labrosz7572 The market is there, anyone can try. But in the end, only what is efficient remains, and plastic packaging is still the best way to store perishable products safely (for better or worse). Another thing is waste. Imagine the amount of food that would be thrown in the trash because it was not sold that day. This results in increased costs and prices.
About refillable bottles, the idea is not bad, but have you ever thought about why no one does this? Because people don't want to carry around empty bottles. It seems silly, but that's how it is.
chyna 90 percent
💊 As someone who takes over a dozen of pills a day, I bring home a *lot* of those brown pharmacy bottles. As best I can, I pull the labels off the empty bottles and toss them in my recycling bin. But I don’t know that the plastic bottles are getting recycled and I actually am kind of afraid they aren’t. I’ve asked several pharmacies if their [big box] stores have recycling programs but they stare at me like that’s the most ridiculous thing they have ever heard.
It would be nice if some thought would be put into how to get your meds to you safely but also in a way that is beneficial (or at least not detrimental) to the planet. 🌎
Avoid plastics where it's possible and where it's not, recycle, Where recycling doesn't make sense, use it as fuel.
Burn it in controlled systems with filters and measures are taken to avoid other pollution. Its done here in Sweden on an industrial scale and has been done for many years. In fact we import waste to use as fuel.
so how do we know we are not being lied to right now?
Plastic is not garbage, its a resource because it is made from oil . Its cheaper to make new plastic from oil than recycling old plastic to plastic again. In cold Sweden we burn old plastic(oil) to make energy in power plants. Its the best solution .
Because burning more fossil fuel is totally a winning solution. The user above me has one of the worst ideas on this topic. Don't listen to him.
Excuse me WTH
What about the toxic fume
@@herren1809 But aren't cow farts the #1 issue contributing to climate change? Come to find out cows can't even fart.
YES YES YES
@@herren1809 That is ignorant bullshit . it's burned in power generating plants to make steam. those facilities have all the pollution controls and computerized process that keep it well controlled .
All this information and she still didn't answer how the plastics end up in the ocean. She got the where but not the how.
Plant chips off buildings and enters the water system as it rains. It floats down to brooks, then rivers, all the way down to the ocean. That’s the majority of the plastics that are in the ocean that we know of at this time. Apparently, another type of ocean plastic will be discovered soon.
She said 75-85% of the plastic is from commercial fishing.
This is why I don't buy coke, Pepsi
Good for you? Did you notice that individual consumer plastics are not really the problem here?
@@SharynS. Letting your representative know and boycotting the products that destroy our environment is all we can do. We are stronger together
short version, we are F#$ked....................
Ehhh, "Seaspiracy". Good documentary.
Spoiler Alert.. you're being lied to about nearly everything.
Tapped for the babe, stayed for the business.
Paid for by the plastic industry… 😂
Companies love taxes. Add taxes based on waste related to them.
Recycling is a responsibility not a means of profit so it doesn't need to be economically viable. Same as social spending by governments. Also, claiming that plastic should be left in the environment because they aren't harmful is just plain irresponsible. Americans are the number causers of this problem, you guys have lost it.
Americans? Have you seen India? They throw trash everywhere.
Have they talked about the amount of oil and metal the Navy dumps in the ocean😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same with polar bears, coral reef, and global warming.
Knowing that the UN is tackling the issue reinforces the fact that we are all doomed.......
This video was very well done and very helpful
Aduro clean technologies !
Can we get STRAWS back then?!
I wonder if she’s a scuba diver?
This topic was hot 20 years ago. So look into those who responded then....
china and india
Well done. You did a good job
Lol all this blaming. Whats it going to solve?
Damn shes beautiful
Adding capture points to the water way infrastructure architecture would be smart.
There is no easy way to recycle plastic. There is also no standardized plastic formula.
Is there a real picture of the Great Pacific garbage patch?
China bro! 😫
Some pictures are fake, but the patch is not fake. This title is just as clickbait as the pictures itself.
To reduce production you need to stop the consumption. Start with coke.
Just be honest
What to believe?
It's all china and India duhh use comon sense
Over 50% of the garbage patch is fishing nets alone, 85% of the trash is from Comercial fishing.
amazon makes alooot of plastic and sells it
starts with our gov. and the worlds governments. this is such a shame for society
What the narrator omitted to say is that the majority of ocean plastic comes from Asia.
What does that have to do with the example?
Lol now they are into sea bed mining😢
There is a reason why the word "reduce" is the first in the mantra of "reduce, reuse, recycle"
Good luck moving the dial on this one, it has been going on for decades already...
Great video, but the constant hand and arm moving is distracting and a bit annoying
environmentalists lying seems par for the course, they have been doing it for as long as i can remember.
After seeing this video I believe that the real problem is that everyone is pointing the blame to someone else.
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Electric Vehicles have a much higher rate of tyre wear than ICE vehicles, apparently. Due to their faster acceleration and braking.
Comes down to the old adage, "Facts are important."
I stopped recycling years ago when I learned I was doing the work for somebody else that was getting paid.... sounds like most of my life lol
Get the big companies to stop. Right, like that would ever happen. It never will, wake up.
Well, what about all the animals that eat to plastic and then die and land up on the beach dead
The biggest contributor to ocean trash on my street are the trash trucks. They spill trash every week when during collection.
Watch the documentary sea-speriecy.
2:50 imagen some asshole comes to your house and throws a bunch of shit in it, and then he goes "no no, its fine, it's part of his house now"
I am doing my part. I buy Mexican Coke in glass bottles. But there is no more bottle recycling in store. So they go in the recycle bin.
how can tyre dust be microplastic whene vulcanized rubber is mostly rubber and carbon black?
can someone explain please?
Lying about the plastic patch isnt lying about ocean plastic. Yes the corporations are 95% at fault but we consumers dont help if we just throw our plastic away
It is really hard to take Business Insider seriously after their Elon Love Fest and Red Lobster expose.
I wonder who is funding this video presentation?
No mention of the fact that the Philippines and SE Asia in general are the largest producers of ocean plastic? As usual deferring the fact that western countries cause very little plastic waste to enter the environment and the majority comes from non-western nations.
5 commercial breaks in an 18 minute video. This is really too much! For a platform that demonetizes firearms videos
11:48 yeah I agree on that... I mean... You just cannot tell people to just stop drifting when Deja vu it's played, that's not moral...
I love how impartial this is. You don't go for "Shock value" or blowing things out of proportion. I love the environment and getting the unbiased truth is soooo hard. Thank you for this video.
Plastic is a fantastic material in many ways, we need an alternative that has similar benefits, until then I have a hard time seeing plastic production being decreased. Maybe we should focus more on studying bacteria, enzymes and fungi that can break down plastic.
11:43 - Electric cars /EV's weigh more than twice as much as the cars they were meant to replace, thus, they cause more tire pollution (and its no small amount).
It's true. I worked in the plastics industry and only clear bottles can be recycled easily because they are mostly clean and the same material. Almost everything else is too costly to recycle.