Yes, Rump was a useful idiot for appointing young conservative judges to the Supreme court and federal courts throughout the country. He has outlived his usefulness and has become a liability, so now the Federalist Society disavows him and throws him under the bus. If the Federalist Society was truly run by constitutionalists they would have disavowed him after January 6th if not sooner. What they are is a bunch of cynics, just looking for a way to capitalize on constitutional and legal loopholes, and to weaponize any levers of government that might be bent to the will of their wealthy donors.
And some of the mentioned parties (ICU Lauren “introduced by Ted Cruz, and how do you and Raphael Eduardo know each other?” Boebert, and Josh “100 yard dash to escape after doing a Roman Salute to the insurrectionists” Hawley) are still getting support by those ghouls at The Federalist Society.
My thoughts exactly. They are afraid he will lose in the 2024 presidential race. And there are still many more rights to take away from us, so America can become a theocracy. They don't want to risk that main goal. 😶
I agree with you 💯I’m not happy with the Federalist Society because they are the inertia that moved trump to this point so they should do whatever they can to stop this runaway monster that they help create. In this case, the Federalist Society are the Dr. Frankenstein’s among others.
@patth7582 Yep, all that good stuff will come into the light during the discovery process. Trump will get to litigate how the election was rigged and stolen, how and why this is a bunch of baseless charges that will most likely be thrown out on technicalities. Be careful what you wish for. Regardless, you'll still be looking up from your position.
I have a neighbor that even though he leans Right ,He is a Staunch Constitutionalist.That statement from 45 has him totally against 45 .There are many people like my neighbor and are not going to Trump irregardless of his affiliation
He was a useful idiot for getting conservative judges appointed to federal courts, but now he has outlived his usefulness and has become a liability. The Federalist Society only cares about rule of law and adherence to the Constitution when it benefits their financial agenda.
trump isn't actually a conservative. He's an egotist. He has strayed from conservative republican norms regularly. Good to see that some conservatives can see this.
The Federalists Society is so far right I’m surprised they don’t cut off their left hand. If these people are against Trump…..it’s a sure sign the man is finished
The Fed Soc: "hey, where's the nearest gas station?" "Yeah, sure it's just down the road and on your le....." The Fed Soc: "Fuck you man, we ain't no lefties shit" -,-
Just giving aid to insurrectionists is enough to disqualify someone, according to the 14th amendment. Saying you will pardon a convicted insurrectionist is giving aid.
Need to be a fact. Saying he would is different then doing it. Before he was kicked of office he could have giving a blanket pardon but he didn't. He doesn't really care about the people energized on Jan 6.
Anything the federalist society has its fingers in should be scrutinized very, very closely. These are the same people that ended up getting roe overturned.
One of their leaders (Leonard Leo) controls a $1.6 billion trust created by a now-deceased billionaire. And apparently, he's trying to create another organization that acts as a Federalist Society for culture, like influencing literature, music, TV.
Agree ... What if the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"? Truck fump And feck the fuderalist society too!
This was a contrived plot , called the Powell memorandum in 1971 thanks to greedy Republicans it has devolved the United States of America into two camps, the learned and the ill informed, just what they wanted while they continue to pilfer the wealth and treasure of the middle class right under your eyes..........Since the end of WWII, the government increased wages every year to keep up with inflation. It was a rare year that the government didn't raise wages because of fears of deflation/stagflation. It was one reason we were able to weather the DECADE of double-digit inflation in the 1970s, caused by the Vietnam War and geopolitical embargoes and upheavals in the Middle East. Almost ten years of inflation that climbed over 14%. And Americans are whining over eight months of 8.2% inflation. I can understand why.....! In 1980, Republicans entered with trickle-down economics and filibustered yearly wage increases. We've only had SEVEN wage increases in 42 years and just one in 13 years. Meanwhile, Republicans have given corporations and the mega rich three massive tax cuts, bailed out Wall Street and corporations TWICE using tens of trillions of taxpayer dollars, given corporations over-generous subsidies and cut estate taxes for the wealthy. Republicans have transferred 38 trillion from the middle class and the poor to corporations and the Uber wealthy in the last four decades. That's why Americans can't buy homes these days and why a piddling 8.2% inflation rate is driving people to their knees. This should be the last time a Republican runs for anything, this cancer is about to eat itself !. RUN the Republicans completely out of American Politics, they have earned nothing and stole the American Dream from all of us ! REPUBLICANS cause inflation , that is all they have to bring to the table, create inflation, freeze COLA, reduce services and then reap the profits, while making the quality of life vaporize in front of the people who keep voting for REPUBLICANS. The quality of life in America is polarized, the haves ,have no sympathy for the have nots, while knowing they created this disparity. The debt ceiling has been raised 78 times since 1960; 49 TIMES BY REPUBLICANS, 29 times by Democrats. Decide who the real businessmen are, the ones who grow the economy without debt or the ones who cause inflation to stay in power ? You have no idea what wealth has been stolen from the Middle class since the Nixon Era , here is a clue th-cam.com/video/QPKKQnijnsM/w-d-xo.html
@@sawtooth808Actually many decent people joined the Federalist Society because at one time, it was considered a primer conservative organization devoted to the rule of law. Over the years, around the time Obama was elected POTUS the Federalist Society drifted from it's founding principles; and, became easy prey for corrupt billionaires; and, far right factions to use as a tool to hollow out U.S. democracy from within. IMHO Merrick Garland had no clue regarding the cancer growing within the Federalist Society and the RepubliQan Paty. One (probably the only) benefit TFG provided is that he unwittingly unmasked many of the corrupt individuals who were slowly plotting to overthrow the U.S. democracy. The Plan to undermine U.S. democratic institutions was in the works for a long time. Trump, because he's about as subtle as an earthquake shouted the quiet parts out loud. It's good these traitors want tRump gone; but, beware the (leadership) puppet masters.
Lindsay Graham, too... When your own people want you gone, they'll get you gone. Just look at Bernie's run, which is how we got stuck with Trump in the first place 😏
Hmmm...are you aware that in 2017 The Chump stated that the Federalist Society wasn't just going to vet his Supreme Court picks, he would let the Federalist Society people choose his SCOTUS nominees. And so it happened - as well as lots of Federal Circuit Judges, all over the country...
so you want to throw the first amendment under the bus because people use it in ways you don't like? I have no love for the Federalist Society, but they have the right to petition the government. I think a better response is for people to stop voting for candidates that give deference to the Federalist Society when it comes to selecting judges.
I really want to file a lawsuit against my congressman, Derrick Van Orden, and kick him off the ballot for 2024. He was there on Jan 6 and has given aid and comfort to the insurrectionist.
The organization was created to insulate lawyers and potential judges in an intellectual echo chamber separate from the real world that their advocacy impacts. It being corrupt to the core is the natural result of such poisonous roots.
It is completely disingenuous for the Federalist Society to disavow tRump only now, after they have gotten all the conservative judge appointments they wanted from him. Now that he has outlived his usefulness and is on the verge of becoming a liability they are more than happy to throw him under the bus ---- which is exactly what tRump does to anyone who is no longer useful to him.
Right??!! What kind of organization that claims to value the constitution don't come out even after everything we know, to full throatedly denounce him?
If inaction, interference, and incompetence were reasons for disqualification that would mean that Trump would be disqualified for murdering 500,000 Americans during COVID-19. Just drink a cup a day of Clorox and you will be ok America!
Indeed. Now they have no further use of him. The problem is, they couldn't manage their monster and now he directly controls something like 40% of their voters, and they will turn on the party long before turning on him. Expect to see violence at the RNC if they deny him the nomination- even if he's in prison.
I'm guessing you're referring to the objections to the certification of certain states' electoral votes. However problematic that is, it's not an insurrection--in part because it's provided for in the law governing the proceedings. Certainly some in Congress do deserve disqualification on those grounds if Trump himself does (though I disagree with these judges), but it's a smaller number than that.
That would include Desantis, Haley, and many others who have said on the campaign trail that they'd give pardons to Trump and his Jan 6 insurrectionist crowd.
There are several current members of Congress that should be removed from office now and never allowed to run for any office again based on the 14th Amendment.
I agree that the entire #SeditionCaucus should be removed. But w/o that pesky “finding of fact” Beau mentions, the road to disqualification is a muddy & slippery one. I live in Texas, and his hypothetical about disqualifying Biden b/c he failed to ‘secure the border’ is very believable here. @nebulousvoid is on the right track tho: let them win the primary, get nominated, and run all the way to November - where the American voters will ‘disqualify’ them. That’s the only way not to leave a weapon lying about that their anti-democratic allies in state gov’ts can pick up & use to further entrench minority rule.
There are elected GOP officials who should not be on the ballot for reelection. They took an oath and then gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists. Fist-pumping Josh Hawley comes to mind, among others.
I have a strong feeling that Fani Willis will have something to say on that this next week. If you think you've heard republicans screaming at the moon, this should be really interesting.
Like all striving authoritarians, trump is quickly finding out that his movement used him far more than he used them and damaged goods have a very limited shelf life.
Let's hope the Federalist Society splashes the gasoline a little too enthusiastically around the firewood pile with Rump tied to a stake at the center. They might all get singed and scorched in the process. Let's hope so.
Ah... but he was useful enough for them to carry out their agenda while in office. Why are they speaking up now when they should have spoken out immediately after January 6th?
Yup. Trump reminds me of Mao during the Chinese cultural revolution. He started by demonising the intellectuals first, then professors and teachers. He eventually started on members of his own inner circle. Its exactly the same. Give it a week or two and I suspect Ted Cruz will be labeled a RINO, and will be on Fox news doing his struggle session and confession.
RINO's ... Hardly. How long til the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"? Truck fump And feck the fuderalist society too!
There is more to the Constitution than the 14th Amendment. An there is reality to be contended with, an the reality is that no judge will uphold that argument.
The Federalist society got what they wanted from him. Packed the supreme Court with federalist members or endorsed. Barr, who is a member didn't seem to have a problem doing Trump's bidding, until the last month. Many members of FS got what they wanted from trump.
This was a contrived plot , called the Powell memorandum in 1971 thanks to greedy Republicans it has devolved the United States of America into two camps, the learned and the ill informed, just what they wanted while they continue to pilfer the wealth and treasure of the middle class right under your eyes..........Since the end of WWII, the government increased wages every year to keep up with inflation. It was a rare year that the government didn't raise wages because of fears of deflation/stagflation. It was one reason we were able to weather the DECADE of double-digit inflation in the 1970s, caused by the Vietnam War and geopolitical embargoes and upheavals in the Middle East. Almost ten years of inflation that climbed over 14%. And Americans are whining over eight months of 8.2% inflation. I can understand why.....! In 1980, Republicans entered with trickle-down economics and filibustered yearly wage increases. We've only had SEVEN wage increases in 42 years and just one in 13 years. Meanwhile, Republicans have given corporations and the mega rich three massive tax cuts, bailed out Wall Street and corporations TWICE using tens of trillions of taxpayer dollars, given corporations over-generous subsidies and cut estate taxes for the wealthy. Republicans have transferred 38 trillion from the middle class and the poor to corporations and the Uber wealthy in the last four decades. That's why Americans can't buy homes these days and why a piddling 8.2% inflation rate is driving people to their knees. This should be the last time a Republican runs for anything, this cancer is about to eat itself !. RUN the Republicans completely out of American Politics, they have earned nothing and stole the American Dream from all of us ! REPUBLICANS cause inflation , that is all they have to bring to the table, create inflation, freeze COLA, reduce services and then reap the profits, while making the quality of life vaporize in front of the people who keep voting for REPUBLICANS. The quality of life in America is polarized, the haves ,have no sympathy for the have nots, while knowing they created this disparity. The debt ceiling has been raised 78 times since 1960; 49 TIMES BY REPUBLICANS, 29 times by Democrats. Decide who the real businessmen are, the ones who grow the economy without debt or the ones who cause inflation to stay in power ? You have no idea what wealth has been stolen from the Middle class since the Nixon Era , here is a clue th-cam.com/video/QPKKQnijnsM/w-d-xo.html
I'm completely down with this as long as the Federalist Society agrees to pull all the judges they recommended and trump appointed including the Supreme Court.
Yeah Suuuuure, like that would ever happen. Their foot and much more is in the door now. They might extinguish a pest or two in the process but will march like Nazis over everything and everyone else.
Except that Trump isn't really a conservative, but he sure was useful for the Federalist Society at one time. Now they want to wash their hands of him because he has become too much of a liability.
The federal society aren't even conservatives ---- they are cynics who use the loopholes in the Constitution and our legal system to advocate for their wealthy donor's financial and political interests. And tRmp isn't a conservative either. He's a crook, a scoundrel, a scallywag, a carpetbagger; and a former Democrat who switched to the Republican party because he figured the Republican party was easier to hoodwink.
What if the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"? Truck fump And feck the fuderalist society too!
They want him gone now but not for the same reasons we do. With his combined stupidity and blatant criminality, he is blowing their cover - that’s why they want him gone. They got what they wanted from him and now they want rid of him.
@michaelrogers2080very well put. Just need to add in a blurb about; Conspiracy and Conspirators. Definitions of Aid and Comfort. Legal outcomes and appeal. Death vs 5 years and a fine. Oath of office. Deviation of Oath. Abuse of Office. If one of these is found to be true then the rest must be explored. The problem is the commitment of the investigators. Dig to the bottom or settle for the surface? I have said this many times before, these charges will out live Trump. Conviction will be laid at the feet of a corpse. And what good is that?
100% but don’t forget the other failings of the Constitution! - The Electoral College is removed to facilitate a true will-of-the-people democracy! - Judiciary appointments are time-limited, can be renewed but are a function of senior judiciary (not short term politicians)! - Presidential pardons must be sent to the (apolitical) Supreme Court for approval! - A House Impeachment recommendation, must sent to the (apolitical) Supreme Court for adjudication. (Allowing “Family members” as jurors is retired)! - Gun control is enacted! - The 25th Amendment is under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court! - The 1st Amendment does not protect news outlets for spreading lies, misinformation and conspiracies! - Politicians can be stood down and dismissed for corruption, conflict of interest... offences! - All Bills from the House must be debated in the Senate! - An electioneering fund is provided that is divided amongst all parties. Cap amounts from “donors”. Cap to total amount for each party. - Gerrymandering and voter obstructionism is illegal. - “Acting” government positions have a time limit. - ... Just a few ideas from afar!
There is one. The 14th Amendment, sec, 3. Mr. Griffin one of trumps supporters that answered the Jan. 6 call to overthrow the government, was prohibited from running for office in AZ. Trump violated his oath to uphold the constitution and peaceful transfer of power. He is legally disqualified.
There is recent precedent for this that has the potential to be applied to Trump and many others. Here's a copy/paste from an ABC News article dated 9/8/22 with the headline "Judge removes local official for engaging in Jan. 6 'insurrection'": New Mexico District Court Judge Francis Mathew barred Otero County commissioner and 'Cowboys for Trump' founder Couy Griffin, citing a clause in the 14th Amendment that prohibits those who have engaged in insurrection from serving -- the only time in 150 years that the provision has been used to disqualify an official and the first time that a court has ruled the events of Jan. 6 were an "insurrection." Griffin "incited, encouraged and helped normalize the violence," Mathew wrote, calling his actions "overt acts in support of the insurrection."
The fact that these people still aren't full thoatedly rejecting him because of his treasonous acts is sickening. They're dumping him because they think he can't win.
It must have taken a whole hell of a lot of will power for Beau not to call The Federalist Society a fascist front group..... Which they completely are
I absolutely LOVE how the Federalist Society literally just got what they wanted out of him and are throwing him in the trash, just like he has done with everyone his entire life. ❤
Yes. Those and a few more, but not (as another poster seems to have suggested), every objector to the electoral count. Don't forget state legislators as well. There are a number of those who were involved, and the Fourteenth equally disqualifies them (if it does--I don't agree with the judges here and think the section needs relevant enabling legislation and a clear establishment of facts via legal or political process).
They were happy to use Dump when he was a useful idiot. But now that they've lost control of the monster they created their afraid of what he might do to them now that they've lost control of him.
I doubt its that. Its because they smell blood. They've gotten all they can get from him and have figured out he can't win a general election. Their goal is to appoint corporate-feudalist judges and justices and they can't do that if they lose the general.
This was a contrived plot , called the Powell memorandum in 1971 thanks to greedy Republicans it has devolved the United States of America into two camps, the learned and the ill informed, just what they wanted while they continue to pilfer the wealth and treasure of the middle class right under your eyes..........Since the end of WWII, the government increased wages every year to keep up with inflation. It was a rare year that the government didn't raise wages because of fears of deflation/stagflation. It was one reason we were able to weather the DECADE of double-digit inflation in the 1970s, caused by the Vietnam War and geopolitical embargoes and upheavals in the Middle East. Almost ten years of inflation that climbed over 14%. And Americans are whining over eight months of 8.2% inflation. I can understand why.....! In 1980, Republicans entered with trickle-down economics and filibustered yearly wage increases. We've only had SEVEN wage increases in 42 years and just one in 13 years. Meanwhile, Republicans have given corporations and the mega rich three massive tax cuts, bailed out Wall Street and corporations TWICE using tens of trillions of taxpayer dollars, given corporations over-generous subsidies and cut estate taxes for the wealthy. Republicans have transferred 38 trillion from the middle class and the poor to corporations and the Uber wealthy in the last four decades. That's why Americans can't buy homes these days and why a piddling 8.2% inflation rate is driving people to their knees. This should be the last time a Republican runs for anything, this cancer is about to eat itself !. RUN the Republicans completely out of American Politics, they have earned nothing and stole the American Dream from all of us ! REPUBLICANS cause inflation , that is all they have to bring to the table, create inflation, freeze COLA, reduce services and then reap the profits, while making the quality of life vaporize in front of the people who keep voting for REPUBLICANS. The quality of life in America is polarized, the haves ,have no sympathy for the have nots, while knowing they created this disparity. The debt ceiling has been raised 78 times since 1960; 49 TIMES BY REPUBLICANS, 29 times by Democrats. Decide who the real businessmen are, the ones who grow the economy without debt or the ones who cause inflation to stay in power ? You have no idea what wealth has been stolen from the Middle class since the Nixon Era , here is a clue th-cam.com/video/QPKKQnijnsM/w-d-xo.html
What? The Federalist Society interpreting the Constitution in a way that suits their needs with no thought into the greater implications on how it could damage our society? :shockedface:
@@B_BodziakThey are not Republicans. They are fascist theocratic extremists. Purity of race, male dominant, creationists. Nothing matters but DOMINANCE.
@@patth7582If you're talking about the Federalist Society I agree and believe they are the bigger danger here. Just because most want 45 out of Government completely we shouldn't fall for their 'help' that would only help themselves more in long run.
The Federalist Society vs. Trump is like Jeffrey Dahmer vs. John Wayne Gacy. One hopes for mutually assured destruction as a consequence of the confrontation.
As a potential candidate for the presidency, Trump said he would want to pardon people convicted in the Jan. 6 insurrection which to me should qualify as giving aid and comfort to an insurrection against the government
FALSE!!! The pardon power of the President stipulated in Article II of the Constitution has consistently been held to extend to ANY CRIME UNDER FEDERAL LAW EXCEPT IN MATTERS OF IMPEACHMENT. PERIOD. You don't know what you're talking about.
Lifetime picks, so 45 is now expendable for looking like a loser. The 2 authors of this legal opinion only started working on it last year, around the time the House J6 committee was wrapping up. What, they couldn't see 45's complicity in 1/6/2021 in the previous year and a half? They want him out now to clear the way for another (R) candidate and this would, if successfully applied, also keep 45 from taking (R) voters in a 3rd party run.
While I ABSOLUTELY believe he meets the terms for disqualification under the 14th, I'll feel better when he's convicted of the January 6th stuff and every state and local official can point to it and say, "Trump is not on the ballot!!" Assuming both that Trump is convicted AND state and local officials follow the Constitution...
This is why it was a mistake for Jack Smith to only charge Trump with fraud against the US, instead of insurrection. A conviction on insurrection would be the finding of fact Beau mentioned that would make the application of the14th amendment, section 3 inescapable. Without that, I have to agree that the courts would be opening the doors to quixotic determinations by every Secretary of State or board of elections out there. Nevertheless, expect to see multiple lawsuits filed to apply the amendment. Also, expect them to be shot down by the Supreme court if they get that far.
Agree ... due process has to be in there some where. Otherwise what if the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"? Truck fump And feck the fuderalist society too!
They’re loyal to conservative domination of the courts and legally proofreading conservative legislation. Once Trump won the presidency, he was a tool to serve their goals.
Federalist Society is loyal to no one. They use anyone they can to further their own preferences for how society should be ran. The last three SC judges were replaced by the Federalist Society through Mitch McConnell.
This is the only thing that gives me hope if Trump tries to run his trial appeals up to the SCOTUS, the republican nominated judges are all from the Federalist Society and jump when they're told. If the Federalist Soceity tells SCOTUS to not help Trump they won't help Trump.
The reason the Federalist Society is distancing themselves is that on some level they do not want to give him enough power to make themselves irrelevant.
Love this report. I wonder how the federalists on the supreme court and other federalist judges will respond to it. Also, does it mean that the members of congress who gave aid and comfort on Jan 6 will also be disqualified?
Beau, I can’t stand to even hear the name of the Federalist Society. I know who they are, and what they do. They interpret the Constitution like a whacked out Evangelical preacher interprets the Bible.
To "self-execute a bid for office" would mean for a bid for office to be self-instated. You mean "abrogate." But, in any case, that is not true. The Constitution does not provide for disqualification based on a past false claim of election. It provides only three criteria for qualification to hold the office of the Presidency: natural born citizenship, an age of 35 or older, and not having engaged in insurrection. Literally anybody who meets those three criteria can theoretically hold the office-- even an incarcerated murderer.
@@donnievance1942 I could see his claim that he won the 2020 election despite the "mountains" of evidence to the contrary AND in particular after seeing the turmoil (for an unjust , unsubstantiated , untruthful cause) caused by his his insistence of this claim could well in and of itself be seen as insurrection ; do you think for so much as a moment that if he could resume instatement to the Presidency based only on that claim that he wouldn't do so ???
The Federalist Society will come to any conclusion it requires to in order to justify staying in power. They think Trump is a liability. Hence this opinion.
Some of it will no doubt. The ideologically committed white supremacist money that doesn’t care about the constitution a t all (it exists and it is a force in our politics) may be the last spigot to turn off, and only when he is no longer seen as viable. As bad and regressive as the Federalists are, there are worse people in our body politic.
Bingo! This is the big issue. The money faucet is shutting off and some want their money back because it is not being spent where they were told it would be. Trump out of cash and busy in courtrooms non-stop might derail him yet.
The opposite, actually. All the small (non-billionaire) donations are going directly to him instead of the party as a whole. The GOP is going bankrupt in some states.
Everybody knows that Trump hates dogs, so, no ---- he should never even have been elected dog catcher. He's far too abusive to be let near animals, or children, especially young girls.
This is the corner the conservatives have backed themselves into. Even when it may look like they are trying to do the right thing, it will never be perceived by most of us as anything other than dishonest and self-serving, a mechanism for them to distort and misuse to their own benefit.
Rump was a useful idiot for appointing conservative judges, but he has now outlived his usefulness and may be on the verge of becoming a liability, so they are happy to throw him under the bus.
@@brianmccollaum5489Like Beau said, if we were to take this seemingly easy out imagine how easily it could be applied to anyone and everything deemed outside the Federalist Society's interpretation of the Constitution.
In New Mexico, three citizens went to court to prevent Cuoy Griffin from being seated as county commissioner. The judge ruled that Jan 6 was an insurrection. Griffin participated and was convicted federally. Griffin was not seated.
@@michaelmartinez3674They could hold their nose (while easily putting a ring on his) for Pence. He's fabulously maliable by powerful men wielding religion. And they have hella lot of them!
Tim Scott, probably. Women and people of color (Clarence Thomas, Amy Coney Barrett) are their preferred instruments of torture for women and people of color, but they aren't going to pick a woman for president. So that leaves us with Tim Scott.
I trust the Federalist Society as far as I can throw the lot of them. Their argument notwithstanding, I’m not going to join with them simply because they say Trump is disqualified. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
Has The Federalist Society been supporting any of the candidates? I fear DeSantis as much as Trump, Florida lawmakers certainly are willing to back up every backwards ruling he wants
if you want to know who they support, just look to their main sources of dark money funding, which Leonard Leo has neatly tied up in a collaborative llc and charity. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse covers it in his Congressional report called "The Scheme".
The care with which Beau analyzes every nuance of a question is so appealing! When most people seem hardly able to think or question at all, Beau is leading the way to reason and clarity!
When I saw an article about the Federalist Society saying this I knew a video was coming. Some of the cult won't care. Other Republicans will. Remember that prediction Lindsey Graham made in 16? Also, I never thought I'd agree with those folks but here we are. Bill Barr recently said a bunch of stuff I agree with too. It's getting weird. 😂
Totally agree... First I found myself supporting Liz Cheney..... John Bolton is making good sense sometimes...... Joe Walsh, born of the intensely radical and anti-government Tea Party movement... Sounds like a rational man today. As you mentioned, even Bill Barr is trying to straighten out from the Ultra-MAGA. Add to that voices like Michael Cohen, and George Conway. Even Chris Christie is getting in on the act.
DC Deplorables dance to the tune of the Federalist Society, and organizations like it. As soon as Mitch McConnell gets the order, he's going to publicly question trump's eligiblity to run.
@@rtqiiI can't blame them for wanting to distance themselves from Trump. Maybe they all ought to get together collectively and go on a national apology tour.
@@patrickcannady2066 , Actually I think the Federalist Society is worse than evil: they are cynics. They don't believe in anything other than devising strategies for maneuvering past legal and constitutional roadblocks in order to gain financial and political power for the rich people who fund them.
Thanks for the perspective. You are the first person, on or offline, to see the danger of letting officials decide what they consider "self-executing" without some sort of oversight or test, legal, Congressional or otherwise, it's not a slippery slope. It is more like a cliff on a dark night.
They're not true constitutionalists, none of them: they're *cynics*. They have only one reason for existence, which is to test the guardrails of the Constitution and the legal system and look for weak points that can be exploited on behalf of their wealthy donors.
@@goodun2974 I'm implying that they've reached the FAFO phase of all things Trump-related. They just need to carry that learning curve forward and apply it to theocracy, minority rule, and "free market rules" theory.
Nah, they're just throwing him under the bus because he's unelectable. Remember that their only goal is to turn America into corporate feudalism. They don't care about the consequences for those who have done their bidding. They will never be blamed for Trump b/c most people don't even know who they are. They have thought it through thoroughly and decided they need a nominee who can get elected in a general election. This should be a warning to future GOP potus' that the FedSoc will not remain loyal to you even if you do their bidding. That's the one part FedSoc did not think through thoroughly.
Excellent take Beau. Anyone can clearly see they are setting this up to establish a precedent that will allow them to pick and choose the ballots in each state.
Good morning, Peeps. Hope your day is peaceful and your fantasies include 45 in a prison cell. My day has stated out well with iced coffee and Beau's wisdom.
Can't wait for MAGA to start calling the Federalist Society democrats and RINOS 😂
Yes, Rump was a useful idiot for appointing young conservative judges to the Supreme court and federal courts throughout the country. He has outlived his usefulness and has become a liability, so now the Federalist Society disavows him and throws him under the bus. If the Federalist Society was truly run by constitutionalists they would have disavowed him after January 6th if not sooner. What they are is a bunch of cynics, just looking for a way to capitalize on constitutional and legal loopholes, and to weaponize any levers of government that might be bent to the will of their wealthy donors.
Yep, you know it's coming 😂 👍
@@giveme5mins I've seen some comments stating Trump was a democrat plant. There's no honor amongst those who stand for nothing.
Yes, dimwitted intellects on full attack mode
nah they are either socialist and or communist, MAGA just have to figure out out what those terms mean first, then they'll get back to them...
Trump isn't alone, ANY rep who supported the insurrection is also disqualified. I'm looking at you MTG, Boebert, Hawley, etc.
Agreed!
THANK YOU
All in the House and Senate who did not affirm Biden's election should also be removed from the ballot.
And some of the mentioned parties (ICU Lauren “introduced by Ted Cruz, and how do you and Raphael Eduardo know each other?” Boebert, and Josh “100 yard dash to escape after doing a Roman Salute to the insurrectionists” Hawley) are still getting support by those ghouls at The Federalist Society.
Cruz. Tuberville
The Federalist Society got what they wanted: The Supreme Court and a bunch of other judges. Trump is no longer of use to them.
Yup. Bubbye.
It’s funny because tfg is usually the one throwing people under the bus. 😂
My thoughts exactly. They are afraid he will lose in the 2024 presidential race. And there are still many more rights to take away from us, so America can become a theocracy. They don't want to risk that main goal. 😶
The federalist society will be at Trumps feet begging for his attention a year from now.
I agree with you 💯I’m not happy with the Federalist Society because they are the inertia that moved trump to this point so they should do whatever they can to stop this runaway monster that they help create.
In this case, the Federalist Society are the Dr. Frankenstein’s among others.
Half the GOP could not run.
I’m all right with that.
And 100% of the GQP😏
They shouldn’t run! They’ve done nothing for the American people! They wasted our time and money
Hawley could run. I've seen him.
@@johnmacnab8564 threat wasn’t running, that was bugging TF out like a coward
If they want this to apply to Trump then it should also apply to the Senators and Congress people that also provided aide.
Which and who in congress is charged with aiding and abetting Trump.....
No one.
@@brianmanuel727
Right, no one, YET.
@@brianmanuel727don't be so impatient, little man. We're just getting to that good stuff! 😂
@patth7582 Yep, all that good stuff will come into the light during the discovery process. Trump will get to litigate how the election was rigged and stolen, how and why this is a bunch of baseless charges that will most likely be thrown out on technicalities. Be careful what you wish for. Regardless, you'll still be looking up from your position.
Li'l Charlie, what's wrong with providing someone to help you? That's what an "aide" is.
The entire GOP is now disqualified from holding office if this report is accurate.
Yeah! Yeah! Hooray!!"!
The fact the GOP is a fascist party should disqualify them from any democratic govt
Yup
All of them that voted to not approve Biden's election. That would be most (not all) of them.
It accurately accurate
Beau is grinnin' on the thumbnail... 🙌👍🤨 he couldn't wait to make this vid... 🤭😉😉
Do you remember when Trump said
Get rid of the Constitution
So true, I remember.👍
Yep!
I have a neighbor that even though he leans Right ,He is a Staunch Constitutionalist.That statement from 45 has him totally against 45 .There are many people like my neighbor and are not going to Trump irregardless of his affiliation
I remember when Trump said something to the effect that *I have this Article II where it says I can do whatever I want as president.*
I do 🙋♂️
Only Trump can cause the Federalist Society to turn on him.
He was a useful idiot for getting conservative judges appointed to federal courts, but now he has outlived his usefulness and has become a liability. The Federalist Society only cares about rule of law and adherence to the Constitution when it benefits their financial agenda.
And the World.🇺🇸🙅🌍
Gangsters or dictators don’t really trust each other…
Good point
trump isn't actually a conservative. He's an egotist. He has strayed from conservative republican norms regularly. Good to see that some conservatives can see this.
The Federalists Society is so far right I’m surprised they don’t cut off their left hand. If these people are against Trump…..it’s a sure sign the man is finished
They got what they wanted. He's no use to them anymore.
Unfortunately, it is way beyond their control at this point.,It is like a runaway train.
@@robtgoldsteinone the GOP actually created
They got what they wanted from him -- a SCOTUS majority to kill Roe and the Voting Rights Act. He's of no further use to them.
The Fed Soc: "hey, where's the nearest gas station?"
"Yeah, sure it's just down the road and on your le....."
The Fed Soc: "Fuck you man, we ain't no lefties shit"
-,-
Just giving aid to insurrectionists is enough to disqualify someone, according to the 14th amendment. Saying you will pardon a convicted insurrectionist is giving aid.
Need to be a fact. Saying he would is different then doing it. Before he was kicked of office he could have giving a blanket pardon but he didn't. He doesn't really care about the people energized on Jan 6.
And saying you love them.
That’s what I am thinking, too. (I made a longer comment above.)
Only if saying you wlll counts as doing.
Oh dear! If you stay on those lines the whole GQP and hangers on would have to be fired. How sad would that be?
(🥳🎉🎈🍾🍻🍹)
Anything the federalist society has its fingers in should be scrutinized very, very closely. These are the same people that ended up getting roe overturned.
One of their leaders (Leonard Leo) controls a $1.6 billion trust created by a now-deceased billionaire. And apparently, he's trying to create another organization that acts as a Federalist Society for culture, like influencing literature, music, TV.
This would include Merrick Garland
Agree ... What if the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"?
Truck fump
And feck the fuderalist society too!
This was a contrived plot , called the Powell memorandum in 1971 thanks to greedy Republicans it has devolved the United States of America into two camps, the learned and the ill informed, just what they wanted while they continue to pilfer the wealth and treasure of the middle class right under your eyes..........Since the end of WWII, the government increased wages every year to keep up with inflation. It was a rare year that the government didn't raise wages because of fears of deflation/stagflation. It was one reason we were able to weather the DECADE of double-digit inflation in the 1970s, caused by the Vietnam War and geopolitical embargoes and upheavals in the Middle East. Almost ten years of inflation that climbed over 14%. And Americans are whining over eight months of 8.2% inflation. I can understand why.....! In 1980, Republicans entered with trickle-down economics and filibustered yearly wage increases. We've only had SEVEN wage increases in 42 years and just one in 13 years. Meanwhile, Republicans have given corporations and the mega rich three massive tax cuts, bailed out Wall Street and corporations TWICE using tens of trillions of taxpayer dollars, given corporations over-generous subsidies and cut estate taxes for the wealthy. Republicans have transferred 38 trillion from the middle class and the poor to corporations and the Uber wealthy in the last four decades. That's why Americans can't buy homes these days and why a piddling 8.2% inflation rate is driving people to their knees. This should be the last time a Republican runs for anything, this cancer is about to eat itself !. RUN the Republicans completely out of American Politics, they have earned nothing and stole the American Dream from all of us !
REPUBLICANS cause inflation , that is all they have to bring to the table, create inflation, freeze COLA, reduce services and then reap the profits, while making the quality of life vaporize in front of the people who keep voting for REPUBLICANS. The quality of life in America is polarized, the haves ,have no sympathy for the have nots, while knowing they created this disparity.
The debt ceiling has been raised 78 times since 1960; 49 TIMES BY REPUBLICANS, 29 times by Democrats. Decide who the real businessmen are, the ones who grow the economy without debt or the ones who cause inflation to stay in power ?
You have no idea what wealth has been stolen from the Middle class since the Nixon Era , here is a clue
th-cam.com/video/QPKKQnijnsM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/bbbgfnpJN9w/w-d-xo.html
@@sawtooth808Actually many decent people joined the Federalist Society because at one time, it was considered a primer conservative organization devoted to the rule of law.
Over the years, around the time Obama was elected POTUS the Federalist Society drifted from it's founding principles; and, became easy prey for corrupt billionaires; and, far right factions to use as a tool to hollow out U.S. democracy from within. IMHO Merrick Garland had no clue regarding the cancer growing within the Federalist Society and the RepubliQan Paty. One (probably the only) benefit TFG provided is that he unwittingly unmasked many of the corrupt individuals who were slowly plotting to overthrow the U.S. democracy.
The Plan to undermine U.S. democratic institutions was in the works for a long time. Trump, because he's about as subtle as an earthquake shouted the quiet parts out loud.
It's good these traitors want tRump gone; but, beware the (leadership) puppet masters.
The Federalist Society folks should followup by ordering their 'pet' Judges (e.g. Aileen) to stop protecting Trump.
Yep. Their grift will go on (Clarence Thomas style) after trump is long gone.
That’s an idea but she has her sights on the Supreme Court if tRUMP gets back in there!
They can't stop the Trump train and it is coming for them now.
Preach
Some of their judges have been appointed by Trump...
Josh Hawley, MTG, Boebert and many others will be shaking in their boots, as they should be.
YEP!!!!
They will be, very soon.👌
Why? Because law and justice is always applied evenly? Surely you’re not that naïve.
You can add Gym Jordan, Rick Scott and Matt Geatz to that list as well. Maybe Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley
Lindsay Graham, too... When your own people want you gone, they'll get you gone.
Just look at Bernie's run, which is how we got stuck with Trump in the first place 😏
The Federalist society MUST BE PROHIBITED from having ANY influence from choosing or suggesting JUDGES....at ANY level!!!
Hmmm...are you aware that in 2017 The Chump stated that the Federalist Society wasn't just going to vet his Supreme Court picks, he would let the Federalist Society people choose his SCOTUS nominees. And so it happened - as well as lots of Federal Circuit Judges, all over the country...
Exactly. THEY are directly responsible for the overturn of Roe v. Wade. THEY have selcted 6 of the 9 suprem court justice.
so you want to throw the first amendment under the bus because people use it in ways you don't like? I have no love for the Federalist Society, but they have the right to petition the government. I think a better response is for people to stop voting for candidates that give deference to the Federalist Society when it comes to selecting judges.
@@atheistlehman4420 Chosing fascist leaning judges to rule over the People has nothing to do with the first amendment.
Agreed!
I really want to file a lawsuit against my congressman, Derrick Van Orden, and kick him off the ballot for 2024. He was there on Jan 6 and has given aid and comfort to the insurrectionist.
Work with a lawyer
Start a campaign against him only to bring it up
While I completely agree with Trump being an insurrectionist, the Federalist Society is beyond reprehensible.
They are monsters
The organization was created to insulate lawyers and potential judges in an intellectual echo chamber separate from the real world that their advocacy impacts. It being corrupt to the core is the natural result of such poisonous roots.
Just another bunch of RINOs
~tRump
It is completely disingenuous for the Federalist Society to disavow tRump only now, after they have gotten all the conservative judge appointments they wanted from him. Now that he has outlived his usefulness and is on the verge of becoming a liability they are more than happy to throw him under the bus ---- which is exactly what tRump does to anyone who is no longer useful to him.
Right??!! What kind of organization that claims to value the constitution don't come out even after everything we know, to full throatedly denounce him?
Federalist Society members against Trump is like maggots opposed to rotten meat.
Yea, and all we get is the smell ?!
But the maggots eat the rotten meat, so I am not exactly opposed to the show.
Giving maggots a bad rap...
Thank you for the belly laugh❤
If inaction, interference, and incompetence were reasons for disqualification that would mean that Trump would be disqualified for murdering 500,000 Americans during COVID-19. Just drink a cup a day of Clorox and you will be ok America!
Surely that also means that the MAGA politicians who have given aid and comfort to the insurrectionists should not be in office?
Indeed it does.
Kari Lake is top of the list. She should never hold office again.
Yep.
@@ckcoxadd Cruz, MTG, and Hawley for good measure.
That lot have pigeon-holed THEMSELVES as "domestic enemies" for all legal & Constitutional purposes. FAFO.....
Didn't the Federalist Society give us all the Supreme Court Justices Trump nominated?
Specifically their president Leonard Leo
Yes!!*🎉🎉🎉
And Judge Cannon!
Indeed. Now they have no further use of him. The problem is, they couldn't manage their monster and now he directly controls something like 40% of their voters, and they will turn on the party long before turning on him. Expect to see violence at the RNC if they deny him the nomination- even if he's in prison.
💯
There are 147 members of Congress who are - or should be - subject to the 14th Amendment. 139 representatives and 8 senators.
Applying the 14th Amendment to the 147 Drumph enablers and abettors would be a marvel of housekeeping!😮
I'm guessing you're referring to the objections to the certification of certain states' electoral votes. However problematic that is, it's not an insurrection--in part because it's provided for in the law governing the proceedings. Certainly some in Congress do deserve disqualification on those grounds if Trump himself does (though I disagree with these judges), but it's a smaller number than that.
Promising to pardon everyone who has been charged for the 6th sounds like giving aid and comfort to me. Objectively.
Completely objective. And Trump is not the only one.
That would include Desantis, Haley, and many others who have said on the campaign trail that they'd give pardons to Trump and his Jan 6 insurrectionist crowd.
@@Out_of_My_Head Yes. Yes it would.
There are several current members of Congress that should be removed from office now and never allowed to run for any office again based on the 14th Amendment.
My Vote for Liar King Kevin McCarthy for cHumps BUNKY 2024! Lord hear our prayers.
Let them win their primaries first, then disqualify them.
Grassley had a plan for exercising power once Pence had been hanged. That makes him guilty of conspiring to attempt murder.
I agree that the entire #SeditionCaucus should be removed. But w/o that pesky “finding of fact” Beau mentions, the road to disqualification is a muddy & slippery one. I live in Texas, and his hypothetical about disqualifying Biden b/c he failed to ‘secure the border’ is very believable here. @nebulousvoid is on the right track tho: let them win the primary, get nominated, and run all the way to November - where the American voters will ‘disqualify’ them. That’s the only way not to leave a weapon lying about that their anti-democratic allies in state gov’ts can pick up & use to further entrench minority rule.
Name them. Oh wait, you can't because that is a baseless claim. I know TDS is a difficult struggle, good luck.
There are elected GOP officials who should not be on the ballot for reelection. They took an oath and then gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists. Fist-pumping Josh Hawley comes to mind, among others.
...mtg and her 'Marshall' plan...
Mo Brooks would be there too.
MTG
I have a strong feeling that Fani Willis will have something to say on that this next week. If you think you've heard republicans screaming at the moon, this should be really interesting.
MTG, Boebert, Cruz, Jordan, McCarthy...
Like all striving authoritarians, trump is quickly finding out that his movement used him far more than he used them and damaged goods have a very limited shelf life.
Bravo. I don't think it's hit him yet or soaked in. . Yet.
Well said
He’s served his purpose. They’re burning him.
Yay! Bring marshmallows!
Let's hope the Federalist Society splashes the gasoline a little too enthusiastically around the firewood pile with Rump tied to a stake at the center. They might all get singed and scorched in the process. Let's hope so.
I'd say throwing him out like a used rag.
Beau you forget that the Federalists no longer have any use for #45. Mission accomplished for them and their conversative agenda.
they may not have use for him, _but_ the base sure does.. and he knows it.
(p.s. do you think Beau of all people forgets _anything?)_
@@MissyGail4eva Beau 98% of the never forgets but he is human.
@@MissyGail4eva BTW #45s base ...Seriously ?
Their mission won't be accomplished until they and/or their -masters- -owners- "donors" gain total control of everything and everyone in this country.
Ah... but he was useful enough for them to carry out their agenda while in office. Why are they speaking up now when they should have spoken out immediately after January 6th?
His promise to pardon the convicted insurrectionists in public speeches SINCE is clearly aiding and abetting.
Looks like the Federalist Society just became a bunch of RINOs. 😉
😂😂😂🎯🎯🎯
I'm waiting to see how Trump responds.
Yup. Trump reminds me of Mao during the Chinese cultural revolution. He started by demonising the intellectuals first, then professors and teachers. He eventually started on members of his own inner circle. Its exactly the same. Give it a week or two and I suspect Ted Cruz will be labeled a RINO, and will be on Fox news doing his struggle session and confession.
@@BenAaronKeebler71
"deep state hates meeeeee." 🙄
RINO's ... Hardly. How long til the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"?
Truck fump
And feck the fuderalist society too!
That is big news from the Federalist Society. That signals the end of support from them and I think is a signal to the GOP about supporting trump.
As if the majority of trump’s voting block even knows what the federalist society even is
Hope so!!!
Good.👌
The blocks in Humpty Trumpty's wall are beginning to crumble.
I don’t think they supported him until he won in 2016 either.
There’s nothing surprising about normal republicans not supporting him.
On the same hand any Republican who went to the jail for the "political prisoners" has provided aid and comfort to insurrectionists.
Ooooo 🤭 Bye Marge!
Good point @@lovemesomeslippers
Excellent! We can dream…
The 14th Amendment would also apply to ALL those in Congress who did and continue to Aid and Abet the Insurrectionist trump.
You mean......such as McConnell!!!!????????????????????????????????????????????????????
There is more to the Constitution than the 14th Amendment. An there is reality to be contended with, an the reality is that no judge will uphold that argument.
this apples to 99% of GOP politicians@@ayork4161
AL13NM, correct !
The Federalist society got what they wanted from him. Packed the supreme Court with federalist members or endorsed. Barr, who is a member didn't seem to have a problem doing Trump's bidding, until the last month. Many members of FS got what they wanted from trump.
This was a contrived plot , called the Powell memorandum in 1971 thanks to greedy Republicans it has devolved the United States of America into two camps, the learned and the ill informed, just what they wanted while they continue to pilfer the wealth and treasure of the middle class right under your eyes..........Since the end of WWII, the government increased wages every year to keep up with inflation. It was a rare year that the government didn't raise wages because of fears of deflation/stagflation. It was one reason we were able to weather the DECADE of double-digit inflation in the 1970s, caused by the Vietnam War and geopolitical embargoes and upheavals in the Middle East. Almost ten years of inflation that climbed over 14%. And Americans are whining over eight months of 8.2% inflation. I can understand why.....! In 1980, Republicans entered with trickle-down economics and filibustered yearly wage increases. We've only had SEVEN wage increases in 42 years and just one in 13 years. Meanwhile, Republicans have given corporations and the mega rich three massive tax cuts, bailed out Wall Street and corporations TWICE using tens of trillions of taxpayer dollars, given corporations over-generous subsidies and cut estate taxes for the wealthy. Republicans have transferred 38 trillion from the middle class and the poor to corporations and the Uber wealthy in the last four decades. That's why Americans can't buy homes these days and why a piddling 8.2% inflation rate is driving people to their knees. This should be the last time a Republican runs for anything, this cancer is about to eat itself !. RUN the Republicans completely out of American Politics, they have earned nothing and stole the American Dream from all of us !
REPUBLICANS cause inflation , that is all they have to bring to the table, create inflation, freeze COLA, reduce services and then reap the profits, while making the quality of life vaporize in front of the people who keep voting for REPUBLICANS. The quality of life in America is polarized, the haves ,have no sympathy for the have nots, while knowing they created this disparity.
The debt ceiling has been raised 78 times since 1960; 49 TIMES BY REPUBLICANS, 29 times by Democrats. Decide who the real businessmen are, the ones who grow the economy without debt or the ones who cause inflation to stay in power ?
You have no idea what wealth has been stolen from the Middle class since the Nixon Era , here is a clue
th-cam.com/video/QPKKQnijnsM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/bbbgfnpJN9w/w-d-xo.html
But now realise what they created!
They would also be on his hit-list, if he ever got back in!
I'm completely down with this as long as the Federalist Society agrees to pull all the judges they recommended and trump appointed including the Supreme Court.
Yeah Suuuuure, like that would ever happen. Their foot and much more is in the door now. They might extinguish a pest or two in the process but will march like Nazis over everything and everyone else.
That would be a first.
When the Federalist Society turns on a "conservative"...... Pickles me tink.
I'll drink to that,skoal!❤
It just means that particular conservative is no longer useful to their ends. They’re playing chess.
Except that Trump isn't really a conservative, but he sure was useful for the Federalist Society at one time. Now they want to wash their hands of him because he has become too much of a liability.
The federal society aren't even conservatives ---- they are cynics who use the loopholes in the Constitution and our legal system to advocate for their wealthy donor's financial and political interests. And tRmp isn't a conservative either. He's a crook, a scoundrel, a scallywag, a carpetbagger; and a former Democrat who switched to the Republican party because he figured the Republican party was easier to hoodwink.
What if the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"?
Truck fump
And feck the fuderalist society too!
They want him gone now but not for the same reasons we do. With his combined stupidity and blatant criminality, he is blowing their cover - that’s why they want him gone. They got what they wanted from him and now they want rid of him.
I strongly feel the need for a constitutional amendment that prohibits traitors, if convicted, from running for office.
@michaelrogers2080very well put. Just need to add in a blurb about;
Conspiracy and Conspirators.
Definitions of Aid and Comfort.
Legal outcomes and appeal.
Death vs 5 years and a fine.
Oath of office.
Deviation of Oath.
Abuse of Office.
If one of these is found to be true then the rest must be explored. The problem is the commitment of the investigators. Dig to the bottom or settle for the surface?
I have said this many times before, these charges will out live Trump. Conviction will be laid at the feet of a corpse. And what good is that?
100% but don’t forget the other failings of the Constitution!
- The Electoral College is removed to facilitate a true will-of-the-people democracy!
- Judiciary appointments are time-limited, can be renewed but are a function of senior judiciary (not short term politicians)!
- Presidential pardons must be sent to the (apolitical) Supreme Court for approval!
- A House Impeachment recommendation, must sent to the (apolitical) Supreme Court for adjudication. (Allowing “Family members” as jurors is retired)!
- Gun control is enacted!
- The 25th Amendment is under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court!
- The 1st Amendment does not protect news outlets for spreading lies, misinformation and conspiracies!
- Politicians can be stood down and dismissed for corruption, conflict of interest... offences!
- All Bills from the House must be debated in the Senate!
- An electioneering fund is provided that is divided amongst all parties. Cap amounts from “donors”. Cap to total amount for each party.
- Gerrymandering and voter obstructionism is illegal.
- “Acting” government positions have a time limit.
- ...
Just a few ideas from afar!
There is one. The 14th Amendment, sec, 3. Mr. Griffin one of trumps supporters that answered the Jan. 6 call to overthrow the government, was prohibited from running for office in AZ. Trump violated his oath to uphold the constitution and peaceful transfer of power. He is legally disqualified.
There is recent precedent for this that has the potential to be applied to Trump and many others. Here's a copy/paste from an ABC News article dated 9/8/22 with the headline "Judge removes local official for engaging in Jan. 6 'insurrection'":
New Mexico District Court Judge Francis Mathew barred Otero County commissioner and 'Cowboys for Trump' founder Couy Griffin, citing a clause in the 14th Amendment that prohibits those who have engaged in insurrection from serving -- the only time in 150 years that the provision has been used to disqualify an official and the first time that a court has ruled the events of Jan. 6 were an "insurrection."
Griffin "incited, encouraged and helped normalize the violence," Mathew wrote, calling his actions "overt acts in support of the insurrection."
The worry is charges and convictions could be used to prevent political opponents from running for office.
It's NOT the super conservative part that annoys me tbh, it's the SUPER CORRUPT part of it imho 🤢🤮
It's getting out of control. Trump has to go
Yes he do, since Trump likes 'gated communities, prison would be ideal.🔐👮♂️
The entire fascist GOP "has to go".
I was watching a video this morning where a pastor was at his wit's end because parishioners are thinking Jesus is woke and weak.
@@debrajames6286 And to make his Federally sponsored accommodations more like home, we'll spray paint his commode gold.
The fact that these people still aren't full thoatedly rejecting him because of his treasonous acts is sickening. They're dumping him because they think he can't win.
It must have taken a whole hell of a lot of will power for Beau not to call The Federalist Society a fascist front group.....
Which they completely are
I absolutely LOVE how the Federalist Society literally just got what they wanted out of him and are throwing him in the trash, just like he has done with everyone his entire life. ❤
The KOCH GOP has been doing this since the NIXON Resignation, wake up while you still have the ability to vote., (intelligently.)
Irony is fun.
Karma
Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment is the actual definition of trumpty AND a good chunk of the GOP that supported the insurrection.
Not to mention their web of domestic terror groups.
And a few members in the United States Congress should have this applied to them as well.
Not one person had been convicted of insurrection. So who does Section 3 apply to then?
@@brianmanuel727Stewart Rhodes and Kelly Megs were both convicted of *Seditious Conspiracy* . Care to try again?
@@brianmanuel727"person number 1" has yet to go to trail for his J6 crimes. TBC. 😘
Twice impeached, thrice indicted... like a cockroach he just can't be gotten rid of without a big shoe. We just need to see what path that shoe takes.
A fly swatter works pretty good too. 😊
By this logic, couldn't we argue that people like Biggs and Hawley should be disqualified as well?
ABSOLUTELY !
Yes. Those and a few more, but not (as another poster seems to have suggested), every objector to the electoral count. Don't forget state legislators as well. There are a number of those who were involved, and the Fourteenth equally disqualifies them (if it does--I don't agree with the judges here and think the section needs relevant enabling legislation and a clear establishment of facts via legal or political process).
The buyer's remorse with these plutocratic oligarchs is precious.
Amen!
They were happy to use Dump when he was a useful idiot. But now that they've lost control of the monster they created their afraid of what he might do to them now that they've lost control of him.
I doubt its that. Its because they smell blood. They've gotten all they can get from him and have figured out he can't win a general election. Their goal is to appoint corporate-feudalist judges and justices and they can't do that if they lose the general.
This was a contrived plot , called the Powell memorandum in 1971 thanks to greedy Republicans it has devolved the United States of America into two camps, the learned and the ill informed, just what they wanted while they continue to pilfer the wealth and treasure of the middle class right under your eyes..........Since the end of WWII, the government increased wages every year to keep up with inflation. It was a rare year that the government didn't raise wages because of fears of deflation/stagflation. It was one reason we were able to weather the DECADE of double-digit inflation in the 1970s, caused by the Vietnam War and geopolitical embargoes and upheavals in the Middle East. Almost ten years of inflation that climbed over 14%. And Americans are whining over eight months of 8.2% inflation. I can understand why.....! In 1980, Republicans entered with trickle-down economics and filibustered yearly wage increases. We've only had SEVEN wage increases in 42 years and just one in 13 years. Meanwhile, Republicans have given corporations and the mega rich three massive tax cuts, bailed out Wall Street and corporations TWICE using tens of trillions of taxpayer dollars, given corporations over-generous subsidies and cut estate taxes for the wealthy. Republicans have transferred 38 trillion from the middle class and the poor to corporations and the Uber wealthy in the last four decades. That's why Americans can't buy homes these days and why a piddling 8.2% inflation rate is driving people to their knees. This should be the last time a Republican runs for anything, this cancer is about to eat itself !. RUN the Republicans completely out of American Politics, they have earned nothing and stole the American Dream from all of us !
REPUBLICANS cause inflation , that is all they have to bring to the table, create inflation, freeze COLA, reduce services and then reap the profits, while making the quality of life vaporize in front of the people who keep voting for REPUBLICANS. The quality of life in America is polarized, the haves ,have no sympathy for the have nots, while knowing they created this disparity.
The debt ceiling has been raised 78 times since 1960; 49 TIMES BY REPUBLICANS, 29 times by Democrats. Decide who the real businessmen are, the ones who grow the economy without debt or the ones who cause inflation to stay in power ?
You have no idea what wealth has been stolen from the Middle class since the Nixon Era , here is a clue
th-cam.com/video/QPKKQnijnsM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/bbbgfnpJN9w/w-d-xo.html
What? The Federalist Society interpreting the Constitution in a way that suits their needs with no thought into the greater implications on how it could damage our society? :shockedface:
The federalist society is laying out a plank for the rats to walk comfortably off, rather that jump off, the sinking ship that is trump
Excellent analogy 👍✌️
Perfect. They're likely trying to save the Republican party.
@@B_BodziakThey are not Republicans. They are fascist theocratic extremists. Purity of race, male dominant, creationists. Nothing matters but DOMINANCE.
@@patth7582If you're talking about the Federalist Society I agree and believe they are the bigger danger here. Just because most want 45 out of Government completely we shouldn't fall for their 'help' that would only help themselves more in long run.
@@petemavus2948 Correct. In this case ''the (new) enemy of my enemy'' is the greater enemy.
#45 said in TV “we love you” to the Jan 6th criminals. Sounds like aid and comfort to me. Comfort at the very least.
He also promised to pardon them if re-elected. That’s aide.
Ok, he said both. Wish we could get the disqualification TODAY…..
And aid in not stopping the insurrection for hours.
CREW showed us how to use the 14th Amendment when they pushed Couy Griffin out.
So many lives buried under heavy sentencing for years of prison time for way less.
The Federalist Society vs. Trump is like Jeffrey Dahmer vs. John Wayne Gacy. One hopes for mutually assured destruction as a consequence of the confrontation.
I got the pop-corn ready! Let the mutually destructive in-fighting between two slightly different brands of fascism begin!
Well said 👏
As a potential candidate for the presidency, Trump said he would want to pardon people convicted in the Jan. 6 insurrection which to me should qualify as giving aid and comfort to an insurrection against the government
Yes, but how stupid can you be to put your life and future in the hands of someone who doesn't even know you exist?
I would think so
That may be why he didn't actually do it.
FALSE!!! The pardon power of the President stipulated in Article II of the Constitution has consistently been held to extend to ANY CRIME UNDER FEDERAL LAW EXCEPT IN MATTERS OF IMPEACHMENT. PERIOD. You don't know what you're talking about.
That's a sentence I never thought I'd hear, since all the judges Trump put on the court were hand picked by the Federalist Society.😳👍💙🇺🇸🕊
Lifetime picks, so 45 is now expendable for looking like a loser. The 2 authors of this legal opinion only started working on it last year, around the time the House J6 committee was wrapping up. What, they couldn't see 45's complicity in 1/6/2021 in the previous year and a half? They want him out now to clear the way for another (R) candidate and this would, if successfully applied, also keep 45 from taking (R) voters in a 3rd party run.
Yeah. Never listen to your opponent and they are still Republicans.
From a list given to him by...wait for it, the Federalist Society!
While I ABSOLUTELY believe he meets the terms for disqualification under the 14th, I'll feel better when he's convicted of the January 6th stuff and every state and local official can point to it and say, "Trump is not on the ballot!!" Assuming both that Trump is convicted AND state and local officials follow the Constitution...
This is why it was a mistake for Jack Smith to only charge Trump with fraud against the US, instead of insurrection. A conviction on insurrection would be the finding of fact Beau mentioned that would make the application of the14th amendment, section 3 inescapable. Without that, I have to agree that the courts would be opening the doors to quixotic determinations by every Secretary of State or board of elections out there. Nevertheless, expect to see multiple lawsuits filed to apply the amendment. Also, expect them to be shot down by the Supreme court if they get that far.
Yep, it must be proven - and I believe it will be. Subjective opinion cannot be allowed to judge who can and who can't be placed on a ballot.
Agree ... due process has to be in there some where.
Otherwise what if the federalist society decides BLM protests count as insurrection? Does that mean wearing a black lives matter shirt gets you barred from office for "supporting insurrection"?
Truck fump
And feck the fuderalist society too!
Has the Federalist Society not proven itself to sufficiently loyal to Mango Mussolini?
How to throw him to the curb without actually dissing him 101 :p
They’re loyal to conservative domination of the courts and legally proofreading conservative legislation. Once Trump won the presidency, he was a tool to serve their goals.
Remember a cardinal principle of politics - "No permanent enemies, no permanent friends." Tip O'Neill
Federalist Society is loyal to no one. They use anyone they can to further their own preferences for how society should be ran. The last three SC judges were replaced by the Federalist Society through Mitch McConnell.
It’s important to keep tabs on our civil servants/public officials…
This is simply unenforceable. No teeth. And no guidelines on how it can be enforced.
They are done with their useful fool, I mean tool...
Man oh man, thanks for being willing to understand these people well enough to see the cunning in this.
Damn these people are gross.
This is the only thing that gives me hope if Trump tries to run his trial appeals up to the SCOTUS, the republican nominated judges are all from the Federalist Society and jump when they're told. If the Federalist Soceity tells SCOTUS to not help Trump they won't help Trump.
They haven’t helped him thus far. 😏. Nearly the only good thing they’ve done!😬🙃
The enemy of my enemy is also an @$$hole...
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They're conservatives so that description checks out
Nicely done!❤😂😅😢😮
The reason the Federalist Society is distancing themselves is that on some level they do not want to give him enough power to make themselves irrelevant.
We the People
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I have the exact same shirt.
Love this report. I wonder how the federalists on the supreme court and other federalist judges will respond to it. Also, does it mean that the members of congress who gave aid and comfort on Jan 6 will also be disqualified?
If only......
Beau, I can’t stand to even hear the name of the Federalist Society. I know who they are, and what they do. They interpret the Constitution like a whacked out Evangelical preacher interprets the Bible.
Exactly, 'conservative' Extremists.
For their own benefit.
Color me shocked that a number of Federalist Society judges would like to make legal decisions without court rulings or legal findings.
Each state should enforce the 14th amendment and disqualify Trump from running.
I doubt that all the red states could do it but if enough blue and swing states did it trump couldn't win.
No Red States will do that but even if a few of those swing states did, it would be enough.
@@comfortablynumb9342Exactly!
It can be brought on a national level by the Federal Courts without a vote from any state Congress or the US Congress.
bad idea... like beau said ... states can use any excuse to prevent a opponent from being on the ballot
The fact that he insists that he won 2020 should self-execute any further bids for office 😂
To "self-execute a bid for office" would mean for a bid for office to be self-instated. You mean "abrogate." But, in any case, that is not true. The Constitution does not provide for disqualification based on a past false claim of election. It provides only three criteria for qualification to hold the office of the Presidency: natural born citizenship, an age of 35 or older, and not having engaged in insurrection. Literally anybody who meets those three criteria can theoretically hold the office-- even an incarcerated murderer.
@@donnievance1942 it's just the voters are supposed to know better. We are still in the 'good luck with that' stage' I fear.
@@donnievance1942 FYI the 😂 is code for "Joke warning, there's (attempted) humor here if you look for it "
@@donnievance1942 I could see his claim that he won the 2020 election despite the "mountains" of evidence to the contrary AND in particular after seeing the turmoil (for an unjust , unsubstantiated , untruthful cause) caused by his his insistence of this claim could well in and of itself be seen as insurrection ; do you think for so much as a moment that if he could resume instatement to the Presidency based only on that claim that he wouldn't do so ???
Thanks Beau,peace brother…
The Federalist Society will come to any conclusion it requires to in order to justify staying in power. They think Trump is a liability. Hence this opinion.
Presidential campaigns need big money. I suspect the faucet fueling Trump is turning off.
Some of it will no doubt. The ideologically committed white supremacist money that doesn’t care about the constitution a t all (it exists and it is a force in our politics) may be the last spigot to turn off, and only when he is no longer seen as viable. As bad and regressive as the Federalists are, there are worse people in our body politic.
Somebody in a position to do so better start watching for an influx of tRump campaign money from Russia or Saudi Arabia.
Bingo! This is the big issue. The money faucet is shutting off and some want their money back because it is not being spent where they were told it would be. Trump out of cash and busy in courtrooms non-stop might derail him yet.
Wish that danm pipe would break.
The opposite, actually. All the small (non-billionaire) donations are going directly to him instead of the party as a whole. The GOP is going bankrupt in some states.
Let's hope this sets the precedent for prosecuting ALL the criminal politicians, red AND blue!
He shouldn’t be allowed for dogcatcher let alone the presidency.
Everybody knows that Trump hates dogs, so, no ---- he should never even have been elected dog catcher. He's far too abusive to be let near animals, or children, especially young girls.
This is the corner the conservatives have backed themselves into. Even when it may look like they are trying to do the right thing, it will never be perceived by most of us as anything other than dishonest and self-serving, a mechanism for them to distort and misuse to their own benefit.
Agreed.👍👍
Rump was a useful idiot for appointing conservative judges, but he has now outlived his usefulness and may be on the verge of becoming a liability, so they are happy to throw him under the bus.
Well..........Yeah.
@@brianmccollaum5489Like Beau said, if we were to take this seemingly easy out imagine how easily it could be applied to anyone and everything deemed outside the Federalist
Society's interpretation of the Constitution.
tRump said, "we love you..." sounds comforting...
Yeaaah. "Conservative Federalist society judges suing to keep Trump from candidacy", is definitely not on my headline bingo card. 😂
If you claim to be a patriot and you actually love this country, he shouldn’t be allowed to ever run for office again
In New Mexico, three citizens went to court to prevent Cuoy Griffin from being seated as county commissioner. The judge ruled that Jan 6 was an insurrection. Griffin participated and was convicted federally. Griffin was not seated.
Yep CREW stopped Griffin
So I wonder who The Federalist Society has chosen for the GOP nominee. 🥺
Anyone with a functioning judge-appointing hand.
Probably Pence or Christy. DeSantis is also a threat to the federalists’ originalism, so I doubt it would be him.
Actually, I don't think there is a candidate the Federalist Society could vote for, not at this time.
@@michaelmartinez3674They could hold their nose (while easily putting a ring on his) for Pence. He's fabulously maliable by powerful men wielding religion. And they have hella lot of them!
Tim Scott, probably. Women and people of color (Clarence Thomas, Amy Coney Barrett) are their preferred instruments of torture for women and people of color, but they aren't going to pick a woman for president. So that leaves us with Tim Scott.
I trust the Federalist Society as far as I can throw the lot of them. Their argument notwithstanding, I’m not going to join with them simply because they say Trump is disqualified. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
Whatever "self executing" rules against insurrectionists holding office apply to Trump apply to a bunch of others too.
Has The Federalist Society been supporting any of the candidates? I fear DeSantis as much as Trump, Florida lawmakers certainly are willing to back up every backwards ruling he wants
if you want to know who they support, just look to their main sources of dark money funding, which Leonard Leo has neatly tied up in a collaborative llc and charity. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse covers it in his Congressional report called "The Scheme".
We here in Florida have ZERO separation of powers between the branches of our state government: Ron DeSaster wants it, they do it.
Their main concern is getting any GOP elected because all of them since Reagan have allowed the FedSoc to pick their judges and justices for them.
Pretty sure they pushed DeSatan, but he's hopeless, so they've switched to Christie, I think. He's running a perfect campaign.
IMHO: DeSatan wont win
They got their supreme court . Now they are done with him .
Thanks Beau !!!
The care with which Beau analyzes every nuance of a question is so appealing! When most people seem hardly able to think or question at all, Beau is leading the way to reason and clarity!
When I saw an article about the Federalist Society saying this I knew a video was coming.
Some of the cult won't care. Other Republicans will. Remember that prediction Lindsey Graham made in 16?
Also, I never thought I'd agree with those folks but here we are. Bill Barr recently said a bunch of stuff I agree with too. It's getting weird. 😂
Totally agree... First I found myself supporting Liz Cheney..... John Bolton is making good sense sometimes...... Joe Walsh, born of the intensely radical and anti-government Tea Party movement... Sounds like a rational man today. As you mentioned, even Bill Barr is trying to straighten out from the Ultra-MAGA. Add to that voices like Michael Cohen, and George Conway. Even Chris Christie is getting in on the act.
'Morning. It's a big ol' goofy world!
DC Deplorables dance to the tune of the Federalist Society, and organizations like it. As soon as Mitch McConnell gets the order, he's going to publicly question trump's eligiblity to run.
He failed and is disposable now.
They talked totally different before then.
@@rtqiiI can't blame them for wanting to distance themselves from Trump. Maybe they all ought to get together collectively and go on a national apology tour.
It does say rebellion as well…but then what is a rebellion in peoples eyes.
The Federalist Society is extremely conservative, but they're not stupid.
Yes, they’re evil, not stupid.
I wouldn't be surprised if they want DeSantis on the ballot without any other competing Republican candidates.
@@patrickcannady2066 , Actually I think the Federalist Society is worse than evil: they are cynics. They don't believe in anything other than devising strategies for maneuvering past legal and constitutional roadblocks in order to gain financial and political power for the rich people who fund them.
They can be both
@@butterflysrage The Federalist Society is a lot of things…stupid isn’t one of them, they are “long game” players
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Didn't some of the Bunker Boy crowd get convicted of insurrection? And, Didn't he praise them?
Thanks Beau and crew 😊
4th 🍻
Morning iQ! You are now free to roam the country! ❤❤❤❤
@deanvaillancourt2881 Oh thank you Dean 😊
@@Erin-ThorHiya Erin 😊. I'm sorry, I don't understand about roaming the country. 🤔
Good morning.
Thanks for the perspective. You are the first person, on or offline, to see the danger of letting officials decide what they consider "self-executing" without some sort of oversight or test, legal, Congressional or otherwise, it's not a slippery slope. It is more like a cliff on a dark night.
It sounds like the Federalist Society has realized the consequences of SOME of their actions. Maybe they should continue thinking things through.
They're not true constitutionalists, none of them: they're *cynics*. They have only one reason for existence, which is to test the guardrails of the Constitution and the legal system and look for weak points that can be exploited on behalf of their wealthy donors.
@@goodun2974 I'm implying that they've reached the FAFO phase of all things Trump-related. They just need to carry that learning curve forward and apply it to theocracy, minority rule, and "free market rules" theory.
Nah, they're just throwing him under the bus because he's unelectable. Remember that their only goal is to turn America into corporate feudalism. They don't care about the consequences for those who have done their bidding. They will never be blamed for Trump b/c most people don't even know who they are. They have thought it through thoroughly and decided they need a nominee who can get elected in a general election. This should be a warning to future GOP potus' that the FedSoc will not remain loyal to you even if you do their bidding. That's the one part FedSoc did not think through thoroughly.
Excellent take Beau. Anyone can clearly see they are setting this up to establish a precedent that will allow them to pick and choose the ballots in each state.
Even if they can't prove he participated in the insurrection, he DEFINITELY provided aid and comfort to the Jan 6 criminals.
When he said, “We love you, you’re very special,” to (now convicted) insurrectionists, that was aid and comfort. End of story.
We should make them ride that rocket all the way to the ground. They wanted Trump, they should have to stand by him all the way into oblivion.
No, them recognizing his treason is good.
Well, the broken clock is correct twice a day in action here...
The notion that TFG can't do stuff which is illegal is frankly laughable at this point.
this screams triage/damage control because they don't know (or do know) how deep the rot goes
Love the grin.
OMG! - I can just imagine the mental gymnastics my friend will be exhibiting due to the federalist society and their opinion!
Good morning, Peeps. Hope your day is peaceful and your fantasies include 45 in a prison cell. My day has stated out well with iced coffee and Beau's wisdom.
Thanks
His face in the Thumbnail just says “I have something good for ya today!”.