The best way to look at this from may be to look at the dinosaurs as an invasive species. They might be able to survive for a time on the plant life available in a certain area, but overtime they will decimate what is available and move to areas where it feed it more readily available. That could be at least part of a reason at least larger species would move to warmer climates.
Yeah I was about to say some thing like this. It really isn’t that complicated, life always follows the easier path. Why would they stay in freezing weather if there was perfectly fine weather just a little further south. Also it’s not like they would’ve magically popped in there, they need time to get there
Its next to impossible not to mess up on some level a dinosaur movie in 2024. Let´s say you want David Icke style dinosaurs which have the potential to somehow become reptilians - that results in too predictable characters. For Hollywood that sounds great because that means more sequels but no need to specifically emphasize quality. The original Jurassic park films were made for people who believed that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, and each had its own story line which enabled slow world - buildup. If you write a script or a western something and choose not to publish it too soon - your idea, your story, and it´s uniqueness might have potential and even then something might fail and you would have to recreate it from start.
Not gonna lie rexy is dead, she should’ve stayed thst way when the giga clearly killed her then magically was alive again… like bro her lifespan is like 20 years or smth so she should be dead anyway, and it’s set in 2028 so she would be dead of old age anyway
@Jwmd1 try when the rex was lying on top of the billboard, no life in her eyes, then the spotlight somehow ‘revived’her, you know… when she was white clearly done for, before the theri came into the right
YES... Why? They have DNA because they made them. And why this 3 specifically big dinosaurs? What problem have dinosaurs like compsognathus or stygimoloch?
Well, actualy the plot about dinos dying off is more realistic than we think. We must not forget that they were introduced forcefully to multiple environments that may not be suitable for their natural needs. Yes, there were videos on the Dino tracker portraying Brachiosaurus in a snowy forest, but that does not mean that the Brachy lived happy and healthy live. Same for the Apatosaurus amd Parasaurolophus in Dominion. Elefants too are endothermic and can survive in the snowy areas for temporary period and even enjoy it, but that does not mean that we can introduce them to Alaska and they will thrive there. Moreover, InGen dinos may have been modified to withstand modern climate, but they were never meant to live outside Isla Nublar or Isla Sorna. So I really doubt InGen made them "winter-proof". Also they were raised by people in enclosed and controled environment and were supplied by specific sources of food to keep them healthy. Modern world covered mostly by africultural land with occasional islands of forest areas may not and will not offer such variety and amounts of food to fulfill their needs. So, after some time, when the limited sources are depleted, animals will migrate to other areas where they can find what they need. The next problem is that in other than tropical and subtropical areas with complicated acces there are human settlements everywhere. And these urbanised areas are everything else but suitable for grazing herds of megafauna. That is why we do not have european/american lions, wild cattle, wild horses, european elephants and american mastodonts anymore... sooner or later the desire to get rid of problematical dinosaur encounters will raise. And the outcome will be a natural, or a violent transfer of dinosaurs to more wild and untouched areas of the planet. And last but not least, the utopical ending of Jurassic World Dominion is more like a stupid fairy tale and THAT is what actualy disregards the whole franchise. Do not forget that all of the previous movies amd even Michael Crichton himself shows us that dinosaurs out of their paddocks are a living nightmare for multiple and very serious reasons.
Yes they were, Jurassic Park San Diego, Europe & Japan were all planned with the Dinosaurs’ in mind. Their genetic code continued throughout the world creatures too They were intended to leave Costa Rica
@@SwrveYT Ok, I forgot about that, but neither that is a prove they were supposed to live in cold climate. San Diego biome is classified as "arid and Mediterranean like, with common temperatures between 14° in January and 22° in August". That is not much "cooler environment", moreover San Diego was again a zoo-like facility which could ensure the comfort for dinos even in winter. Jurassic Park Europe was canonicaly supposed to be build on Azores, which are in subtropical, "mild to warm" climate, with temperarures similar to the continental Portugal. And Jurassic Park Japan was planned to be built on an island near Guam, which is located in Micronesia with "tropical marine climate".
@@SwrveYT I am sorry, I really do not want to argue with you about the franchise we obviously both love and please do not take my comments as a hate or anything like that. I understand your point of view about the franchise and the story as a whole, however there simply are some things that I see in completetely different way and in my mind I cannot 100% agree with you on these, that is all. Nevertheless I always enjoy your videos and I am glad we have someone passionate like you who provides us content about Jurassic 😊
@@SwrveYT is the creepy rapper lady from chaos theory using the brain chips to control the raptors and the brain chips are coded to hunt people when they hear that frequency.
Like, how can they be dying out, when illegal cloning is still a thing Even if they all died in wild, there's still would be ones kept as illegal pets or for illegal fights or for illegal zoos And most likely, they would often escape
@@darthcaedus9130 thats problem of those people and not really a story Normal people most likely doesnt gonna have dinosaur pet, and if yes, its gonna be small one while rich people might have larger ones Illegal zoos, again very rich people, like Pablo Escobar did And illegal fights, they are already to the death, so they would just let victorious animal eat the dead one
Well illegal cloning could be controlled or not as common through government and law enforcement. We saw in dominion thare were efforts to shut down illegal breeding operations
It's possible that the word we should be focusing on is "isolated", not equatorial - like critically endangered species today, the dinosaurs survive in their greatest numbers in protected/isolated regions where humans can't get to them. "Equatorial" is only specified because the film is set in a tropical region.
Killing off all the mainland dinosaurs is actually realistic. Makes sense too, as the large ones shouldn't be able to sustain themselves unless they hunt each other. They're eventually going to run out of food anyway.
True or just be outcompeted by smaller, more adaptable carnivores. The larger Herbivore dinos are a big problem. A herd of sauropods could decimate a national forest and its surrounding lakes and rivers which would call for relocation or authorized hunting of said invasive species as the dinos are now.
agree in large, complex ecosystems, apex predators and large herbivores often face significant challenges when it comes to sustaining themselves. but how might the dynamics of their extinction compare to the extinction events of other large prehistoric animals like mammoths?
The idea of dinosaurs living with humans all around the world is the coolest thing ever and something I've always wanted ever since I was like 7yo. Seeing this with the extremely high quality CGI we have nowadays like a childhood dream coming true. It's so sad that they're leaning towards the "all the dinosaurs are dying", cuz I'd pay to watch any movie with dinosaurs living among people the modern world.
I get that it doesn't make much sense unless earth may be entering another ice age, which in itself would be a cool concept and could open up the possibility of bringing Pleistocene animals back, but if they decide to just stick to the basic plot we know of so far I could see it being some kind of "back to the roots" moment for the francise.
I believe the change of direction could be due to the fact Colin is not involved and he was the one pushing for the story, but without his insight David Koepp and the other producers opted to go in another direction
The thing is... Some fans and channels that cover the franchise acted like Koepp was the missing piece of the puzzle and forgot that Michael Chrichton was an essential part of the team while developing the screenplay. I feel like Koepp is very similar to Zack Snyder in making Rebel Moon. He is good at adapting content but pretty bad at creating new/inventing content.
@@SwrveYT yeah, and because of that I thought Dominion is better than people make it out to be, but it's still not a good movie. It also lacked the dark atmosphere and horror themes that go best with the Crichton style.
@@SwrveYT Well, it has some elements. If you only count the ¨Jurassic World¨ trilogy it´s the one that takes more from the novels, I give you that. But, ¨The Lost Word¨ feels a lot more like a Chrichton novel because it was literally based on the second one. The novel and the movie develop together. The other movies aside the first two are derivates or inspired in some specific sections at maximum. The only two movies that are a literal adaptation are the first two, that´s why those are still the ones that feel like the original style, they have Spielberg, Crichton, ILM, and Stan Winston. That´s why there's no debate on the first two being the originals, and superior. Jurassic 3 set the tone for the World trilogy and I feel like Rebirth will keep the same judging by the new info.
Wiping out Dinosaurs from a Jurassic Park movie is like making Lightsabers completely null in Star Wars- Oh wait a second... Seriously what is happening to movies?
I hope there will be more on new Pleistocene mammals, Paleozoic insects/arthropods, and Bioluminescent dinosaurs while the third Jurassic Trilogy would have less regular dinosaurs with new designs and also we need more aquatic dinosaurs when the Mosasaurus will die soon.
@@ishwenbipat Is it worst to have more pleistocene mammals, bioluminescent dinosaurs, and paleozoic insects after Parasaurolophus lux, Smilodon, and Giant Locust?
The only way I can see the Dinosaurs no longer thiriving is the fact that the environment is suited to support such megafauna (even though an ecosystem is at its healthiest with large numbers of megafauna). That, or diesease like you said. Other than that, I really don't think the different climate alone would cause Dinosaurs (as whole) to die off since they're a very diverse and adaptable group of animals (even today). Even if the global climate was unsuitable for them, why would they actively spread out into the colder regions?
@@joebarnes2856 Good point, but do want to say from my research the Gobi desert was forested in some parts and dry and hot in other parts, so your not wrong.
I still wish they'd do an Alien style, Jurassic film. Set on a cargo ship will some type of Raptor or Raptors. Or maybe does anyone remember Cadillacs and Dinosaurs.
I personally really like the plot idea for the movie. I kind of look at it like this- I mean sure they may have decided to restrict the dinosaurs into smaller areas, but it still seems like there's more areas around the world rather than just one island, but even if they're still on an island, I'm okay with it because island settings are still good and more eery. Also don't forget, this next movie won't just be limited to a jungle setting- there's also the oceans, the entire sky, as well as possibly those mayan caves.
Lets be honest tho, you can't argue against that these dinos have been in tropical/warm clinates their entire lives, it's like putting a fish in water that's a little warmer or cooler than it's natural habitat, it'll live but probably not as long
I still love Jurassic world dominion, mainly because it left everything with an opened door dinosaurs on the mainland , and it’s not just the raptors or compy s , it’s all of them.
As a Jurassic fan since the first movie, yeah they do need to change this if they are going this direction o3o Dinosaurs adapted to the world, we want to see them how we see animals. But I feel like a lot of people are still on the mindset of "Give it a Rated R rating. Make it scary like the first movies" which involved Dinos in a jungle o3o
The thing is, this movie will be set in the future within the timeline, meaning that we just have know idea whats taken place in the time period between Dominion and Rebirth. Something could have happened within that time period which may explain why the dinosaurs are migrating, we just don't know. I think its a good move for them to set the movie in the future as it opens the door for not only sequels, but also prequels as well, meaning that we could have more history and lore. I like the plot so far, it sounds intriguing.
I think there is no sense on killing off most dinosaus. I also think that the detail of the plot that said that dinosaurs were limited to equatorial areas can be changed as the reception of the story of the movie is not well recieved, i think they are trying to see how that aspect of the plot sets with the fanatics and potential audience. So i think some reshoots can change that.
The fact that part of it is filmed in Malta might mean that the dinosaurs are simply restricted to somewhat warmer climates, including subtropical and Mediterranean-style climates. I think they really just mean less of the sort of Canada/California/Finland UK stuff. If it is the sea-reptiles in Malta, it's possible they range about a bit more because they are aquatic, the Mediterranean is pretty warm.
Wow. im suprise that dominion was hated in 2022 and now Rebith is hated because they kill the stupid collin dino world story. I think the fans dont know what they want
it's not really like that, as a fan I can tell you that although dominion is a mistake, deleting it and removing basic concepts that jw3 put in is even worse. dominion was a mistake in my opinion, but that doesn't mean the ways that could have been followed were wrong. nevertheless they decided to go back by erasing what was positive, also erasing more original ideas for future projects, as chaos theory was able to do. (This Is my opinion)
I am excited for Jurassic 7 but it just doesn't seem the best so far...I really wish they'd keep the humans coexisting with dinosaurs but mix it with the og jurassic park feeling, i loved when the movies had a scary/horror touch to them rather then just hybrid dinos fighting 😔😔(sorry my grammar isn't the best)
What’s weird is that things like Dominion, Chaos Theory, The Dinotracker, and Battle at Big Rock showed that the dinosaurs were thriving in the modern world. Plus, this would mean Beta, Blue, Bumpy, and any other fan favorite dinosaur that didn’t or couldn’t make it to the equator are dead.
Ive been thinking what if the ecology reason is a misdirect and it's really dx (if ya know ya know) killing them in colder environments and this mission is to find a cure
I think it's important to remembers that it says they thrive in "equitorial environments", not necesarily on the equator, and to add to that an equetorial environment is described to be regions that often experience a hot climate with little seasonal variation, like with that description you could say they can live in Florida, overall I think it's more like, imagine them in warm places that don't get sevear winters, like we won't be seeing them in Canada and possibly the top half of the U.S. outside of deserts, like these things need a lot of food as well which isn't really easy to come by in winter
You raise some good points, I would like to see stories on mainland showing how people would deal with dinosaurs. It was a unexpected choice for them to say the dinosaurs weren't doing well everywhere else but doing well in equatorial areas. For me I would like to see a story about people who see dinosaurs as invasive species and hunt them.
In gamingbeavers comments someone said that if the dinosaurs were dying it would be called Jurassic world extinction, but the movie is called Jurassic world rebirth, so i think its about humanity trying to protect humanity and life as a whole, so a rebirth of life on earth, with humans, and dinosaurs.
I think this is the way to go. A lot of fans ( including myself ) hated how the dinosaurs spread all across the globe in the span of a few years. Yes some were sold at the auction and genetic power was unleashed. But it would've been so much better if they were restricted to only certain climates. Which is what Jurassic World Rebirth is doing. It also goes back to one of the old taglines for Jurassic Park 4 that was " Evolve or die " something like that. So this could mean that the dinosaurs have failed to adapt to rapid climate change or unable to get the necessary resources. There is also the possibility that hunting lead to the decline of some of the dinosaurs on the mainland.
They needed the next step for the entire idea. JP 1, JP2 and JP3 were "aaah, we're on an island with dinosaurs. We need to get off that island" And the writers were ... "What else can we tell? ..." JW 1 : ' in the end the idea of a park worked. So now lets imagine the same from before with an island full with 15k tourists, lol' JW2 (I actually very appreciate that conclusive decission) : the entire island is completely threatened with every single dinosaur on it because it FCKNG EXPLODES and some crazy maniacs save all of the dinosaur-species from the archipelago. -> NEW BIG INITIAL SITUATION: NOW THE DINOSAURS LIVE EVERYWHERE AROUND THE GLOBE ... All of this were conclusive steps ... And then universal noticed .. they actually don't fckng know what to tell with and how to use this intital situation. So they quickly click-spamed all the necessary 'undo'-buttons and said "fck, go back, GO BACK!" ... THAT is the biggest problem ...
I actually like how they’ve gone down the REALISTIC route and not pretended species brought back to life can survive in an environment so VASTLY different to the one they once thrived in
Again, these modern day monsters were specifically designed to be capable to thrive in every climate in the world… as said in the video (which was a main point)
I do like going back to the island aspect , Is what we grew up with . Yes we did have the Buck Rex going to a city which was awesome , but Fallen Kingdom and Dominion felt off and it felt like it was something else , If They are killing off the dinosaurs they can still . Use the ones in the island to go back to their Roots , 3c films had a an idea for a plot that would have been perfect . For a rival park like a Carnival . Anyways sorry for the long comment Great video
Hey Swrve, I was wondering, could you make a personal video on why you like Dominion? A lot of people don't like the movie, and I really think it would be a good idea for another Jurassic superfan like yourself to make a video on the more in-depth details Jurassic fans and average movie watchers might miss. I feel like making that video would help a lot more people realize more about Dominion, compared to their original watch, and possibly help more people like the movie. I would do this myself, but I'm really busy at the moment and I'm pretty sure your video would get more views and spread to a larger audience 😅
I hope its just some what slight miss information just to slightly throw people off so they can leave a surprise or its just that they've rounded up most of the dinos and moved them to sanctuary's. As ecologically doesn't make sense as a lot of dinosaurs didn't even live in tropical rainforest, just as an example pachyrhinosaurus. They lived in colder areas of the globe even surviving snowy environments in winter which is our current understanding of the creature, so why would that move to the equator. I'm still excited for the film, it just seems off with this recent information we have gotten for the film.
There *must* be something else too. They can't just show us a dinosaur sanctuary in the Alps then tell us that only hot climates are fit for dinosaurs. David Koepp is not stupid.
Agreed. This kind of plot line makes no sense, now if governments are forcing them there to get rid of them all somewhere that would make sense sort of
Honestly I know a some people are going to disagree with me but rebirth reminds me of the original three Jurassic movies it seems to me as if dinosaurs were doing fine for a few years and over 5 years they were gradually not doing as well, and I mean think about it a Dinosaur roaming the streets just isn’t natural. Yet again I’m sure some people are going to disagree with me.
That's real, I Hope It Will looks like the original Trilogy, but at the same time It looks like "ehi, Remember dominion? Eliminate It"... Just my opinion
This is a case where back tracking is the right move. And I'm sure they have some kind of in movie explanation. And I disliked dominion so much that a single sentence that even have makes sense will suffice for me. And even if it doesn't the movie could still be great lol
WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHATS REALLY GOING ON....IM WAITING TILL THE FILM DROPS TO HAVE ANY SAY ON WHATS GOING ON...I FEEL LIKE THERES TOO MANY CHANNELS WITH THEORIES THAT KINDVE RUIN THE PLOTS TRYING TO DISSECT AND FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING...WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW THE MOVIE BEFORE IT EVEN COMES OUT AND I BLAME IMPATIENT FANS...I HOPE EVERY ONE IS WRONG ABOUT THIS FILM AND THAT ITS BETTER THAN EXPECTED. LOVE THE CONTENT SWRVE!
Remember, just because the climate is favorable to dinosaurs in 2023 doesn’t mean that it will be so in 2028. An eruption of Krakatoa hundreds of years ago plunged the northern hemisphere into a 2 year mini ice age with brutal long winters resulting in widespread famine. If that were to happen again then many dinosaurs might not be able to survive it. And even though some species can thrive in cold climates as shown in Camp Cretaceous and Dominion, most may not be able to survive extended periods of cold or survive but not very well. Not just because of the cold but also food supply as I’m sure it takes a lot of vegetation to sustain large herbivorous dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs survived the extinction event in the end of the Triassic, while most of the other big reptiles did not. Because the climate actually got colder for a while. Which very well proves that even the real Dinosaurs were thriving in colder climates. But that did not fit this script, so we just rewrite what we know about prehistory... again.
Not to mention the Triassic extinction was the 5th most devastating one in history, while K-T was the 3rd (after the Capetian & Permian-Triassic "Great Dying"). Dinosaurs were much more resilient as a general group - & technically they even survived K-T too.
Why would they do that? Dominion set up the next films perfectly, but now they're going to ignore all that for a plot like, 'Oh yeah, the dinosaurs actually died, lol'? Why? There was so much potential with dinosaurs on the mainland, and this is the direction they're taking? Even though I'm curious to see how they'll handle it, I'm both cautious and excited for the film. I just hope they can make something out of this plot. The movie is called Jurassic World "Rebirth", so maybe the dinosaurs aren't necessarily 'dying.' But still
@@Kyoryu_Unshaken that's an embellishment of the words in the official plot synopsis. Obviously the full details are still unknown but all is said is that they are not adapting well in the global sense to modern climate . It does not expressly mean all other dinosaurs have died out except for equatorial regions. Could also entail most dinosaur populations have been corraled to more tropical regions
Diet is a very important factor, herbi dinosaurs feeded mostly on ferns and cycads, wich are not the dominant plant life anymore. Also dinosaurs would have to compete with modern animals for resources, it would not be that weird if the mosa was outcompeted by orcas. If herbi dinos die, big theropods would die as well, cause there are no modern animals big enough to keep them fed on a regular basis (apart from elephants and maybe rhinos). Perhaps small carnivorous dinos could survive if they find a nische, but i dont see the others triving without human help. In nublar the island was full of cycads and ferns and the animals had no competition from modern fauna. Altough nublar ecosistem would have probably collapsed anyway in a couple of decades, because there were too many dinosaurs in such a small island.
My opinion, they’re doing this intentionally to bring back a sense of mystery to the dinosaurs, much like that first film, with the dinosaurs lurking in the distance out of sight, never knowing when they might pop up! 😓
The most we got on dino human conflicts were sparse scenes where they caused an inconvenience or direct threat to humans. The rest was spying bullshit and attack of the giant bugs. All that build up to dinos vs humans to just bottom out the dinos. But this is supposed to be the next big movie right?
Also even prehistorically not all dinosaurs lived in tropical climates. There were so many kinds of dinosaurs living in so many different climates across the globe. Even one kind of T-rex lived in the snow. So it doesn't make any sense why they would shift every single one of the dinosaurs to tropical environment. Edit: I would also like to add that I think Jurassic world rebirth is misunderstanding why people hated Dominion. We loved that dinosaurs are spreading all over the world. It opens the door so much potential. It let us imagine so many interesting scenarios and stories of how humans are gonna live in a new world like that. What audience actually were disappointed by is that dinosaurs weren't the central conflict but some oversized bugs who people didn't care about. How then is killing off dinosaurs going to solve that? It's just more of the same but to a greater extent because now we don't even have dinosaurs taking over the world.
I think the dinosaurs would blow up and break through their zone's, see a stampede through homes. humans dying out since dino like raptors are deadly at 6 months. forcing humans to build new cities with barriers as the dinosaurs taking over the rest of the world.
I couldn't agree more on this video All that world building that Jurassic world fallen Kingdom Jurassic world dominion Battle at big rock Dinotracker Jurassic world into the wild And chaos theory Set up All that world building Gone to wasted potential We could have had a story focused on the Indoraptor eggs that managed to escape in fallen Kingdom Or how dinosaurs spread all over the world Or a movie that introduced the DX diseases from the novels Only expect of it having a killing effect on the dinosaurs It would backfired on the humans Similar to how in planet of the apes were the simian flu whipped out most of humanity and the apes where left to rule the earth I would have loved it if Jurassic world rebirth focused on that But instead We got a plot that strate up rips off the plot for alien romulus And the dinosaurs arnt even world wide anymore
I recently rewached all 4 Or the new Planet of the Apes films And just watching those movies made me realise Not only are these some of the greatest science fiction films ever made But this is the kinda plot I want a future Jurassic trilogy to be about No I dont want the dinosaurs to start talking Or become sentient It works in Planet of the apes because apes are our closest living relatives And I just want a Jurassic world film to finally introduce the DX diseases I also just recently watched alien romulus And while I did enjoy the movie After hearing the plot synopsis for jurassic world rebirth I can't help but feel like this inspiration dosent work for so many reasons If you haven't seen alien romulus Go see it Then read all that has come out about jurassic world rebirth so far Then you'll see what I mean
Wait how does it ripoff of Alien Romulus's plot? Are the characters going into outer space to fight cloned monsters with a human-monster hybrid at the end? Or are they going to Isla Nublar to clone velociraptors from what is left of the Big One and make enhanced super velociraptors and the main characters have to fight a Human-Raptor hybrid?
@Xenotaris it's about a retrieving mission And the characters come face to face with deadly creatures All the while they discover a medical serum that could improve human lives made from the creatures DNA But as a nasty side effect it can get humans pregnant with human creature Hybrids
Sure, the early generations would likely be dying off. But they would also be multiplying. Humans and dinosaurs would both need to adjust to living together.
Personally I think it makes sense for the dinosaurs to move to warmer climates. 🤷🏻 A lot of animals migrate with the changing seasons. And I thought it was silly to put so many dinos in frigid environments. Again thats a personal opinion, but I have high hopes for Rebirth.
Alot of people here are getting overly mad at wild conclusions at a plot synopsis that is meant to be vague as it is meant to be a teaser. Every one here jumping the gun for no real reason
I do have an hypothesis/theory about why they decline. I may sound stupid but here it goes: **in JW/dominion, they show the same thing what happen to todays endangered animals: poaching, hunting and black markets. Maybe they decline because they become a more popular target for hunters and poachers to focus on. Leading to overhunting aswell lack of male or female for the species to reproduce. **Maybe they can't compete with modern mammals? Sure many dinosaurs are more powerfull than todays mammals, but dinosaurs do have an 'Achilles Heel': eggs!. smaller mammals like rats, wolverine, weasels and badgers might find these nest and plunder eggs. that can be a reason why northern dinosaur species decline. **Maybe the around the Equator can be a mythical inspiration for many 'cryptid' dinosaurs. such as Mokele Mbembe, Ropen, New Guinean Iguanodon, Kasai Rex, Kaiaimunu and mbielu-mbielu-mbielu ???
Thank you! It doesn’t make sense that dinosaurs cannot handle modern ecology - if it refers to climate - because they lived in snowy and icy environments back in the day, too.
Well to be fair I think theaim thing dinosaurs would be struggling to adapt to is not colder climates but seasonal change. Many dinosaurs lived in a period of great stability. Plus these dinosaurs were originally engineered to survive in a tropical climate
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The best way to look at this from may be to look at the dinosaurs as an invasive species. They might be able to survive for a time on the plant life available in a certain area, but overtime they will decimate what is available and move to areas where it feed it more readily available. That could be at least part of a reason at least larger species would move to warmer climates.
Yeah I was about to say some thing like this. It really isn’t that complicated, life always follows the easier path. Why would they stay in freezing weather if there was perfectly fine weather just a little further south. Also it’s not like they would’ve magically popped in there, they need time to get there
That was in the book, they had to bring huge amount of food in.
So I guess "Life doesn't always find a way."
Life uh finds a way
@@Blexxstaryeah but not like this
Quite literally, the synopsis rejects the message of JP that life finds a way. WTF.
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Funny
I just hope they don't mess this all up
Its next to impossible not to mess up on some level a dinosaur movie in 2024. Let´s say you want David Icke style dinosaurs which have the potential to somehow become reptilians - that results in too predictable characters. For Hollywood that sounds great because that means more sequels but no need to specifically emphasize quality. The original Jurassic park films were made for people who believed that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, and each had its own story line which enabled slow world - buildup. If you write a script or a western something and choose not to publish it too soon - your idea, your story, and it´s uniqueness might have potential and even then something might fail and you would have to recreate it from start.
Ikr I don’t like how their just killing off the dinosaur and basically restricting them to smaller region or even worse go back in a island
Not gonna lie rexy is dead, she should’ve stayed thst way when the giga clearly killed her then magically was alive again… like bro her lifespan is like 20 years or smth so she should be dead anyway, and it’s set in 2028 so she would be dead of old age anyway
She's been alive since the first jurassic park movie which is set in like 1950 or somethin
@@halomaster2956yeah Jurassic park was totally set in the 50s. Remember the scene where they talk about the atom bomb
@Jwmd1 try when the rex was lying on top of the billboard, no life in her eyes, then the spotlight somehow ‘revived’her, you know… when she was white clearly done for, before the theri came into the right
@@aft3rburn3r-tp2tx well she isn't deal with it
biggest problem for me is why do they need DNA from the three most colossal creatures specifically.
🤷♂️ Their Growth Genes?
But they already have the dna because they made them in the first place?
YES... Why? They have DNA because they made them. And why this 3 specifically big dinosaurs? What problem have dinosaurs like compsognathus or stygimoloch?
@@godzillino6369 Bailey's just gonna be like "Yo there's a compy why not get the DNA from that" and Zora will just be like "No it's not cool enough"
Maybe it has something to do with there immune system?
Nowhere in the synopsis does it say that the dinosaurs are dying off it just says that they are migrating to the equator.
Which is almost the same thing in effect. You don’t migrate if you’re doing fine where you are.
@@John-fk2ky true
I wonder if Chaos theory might address this in the next seasons similar to the brain implants from Dominion in Camp Cretaceous
Well, actualy the plot about dinos dying off is more realistic than we think. We must not forget that they were introduced forcefully to multiple environments that may not be suitable for their natural needs. Yes, there were videos on the Dino tracker portraying Brachiosaurus in a snowy forest, but that does not mean that the Brachy lived happy and healthy live. Same for the Apatosaurus amd Parasaurolophus in Dominion. Elefants too are endothermic and can survive in the snowy areas for temporary period and even enjoy it, but that does not mean that we can introduce them to Alaska and they will thrive there. Moreover, InGen dinos may have been modified to withstand modern climate, but they were never meant to live outside Isla Nublar or Isla Sorna. So I really doubt InGen made them "winter-proof". Also they were raised by people in enclosed and controled environment and were supplied by specific sources of food to keep them healthy. Modern world covered mostly by africultural land with occasional islands of forest areas may not and will not offer such variety and amounts of food to fulfill their needs. So, after some time, when the limited sources are depleted, animals will migrate to other areas where they can find what they need. The next problem is that in other than tropical and subtropical areas with complicated acces there are human settlements everywhere. And these urbanised areas are everything else but suitable for grazing herds of megafauna. That is why we do not have european/american lions, wild cattle, wild horses, european elephants and american mastodonts anymore... sooner or later the desire to get rid of problematical dinosaur encounters will raise. And the outcome will be a natural, or a violent transfer of dinosaurs to more wild and untouched areas of the planet. And last but not least, the utopical ending of Jurassic World Dominion is more like a stupid fairy tale and THAT is what actualy disregards the whole franchise. Do not forget that all of the previous movies amd even Michael Crichton himself shows us that dinosaurs out of their paddocks are a living nightmare for multiple and very serious reasons.
Yes they were, Jurassic Park San Diego, Europe & Japan were all planned with the Dinosaurs’ in mind. Their genetic code continued throughout the world creatures too
They were intended to leave Costa Rica
@@SwrveYT Ok, I forgot about that, but neither that is a prove they were supposed to live in cold climate. San Diego biome is classified as "arid and Mediterranean like, with common temperatures between 14° in January and 22° in August". That is not much "cooler environment", moreover San Diego was again a zoo-like facility which could ensure the comfort for dinos even in winter. Jurassic Park Europe was canonicaly supposed to be build on Azores, which are in subtropical, "mild to warm" climate, with temperarures similar to the continental Portugal. And Jurassic Park Japan was planned to be built on an island near Guam, which is located in Micronesia with "tropical marine climate".
@F.Taborsky Multiple creatures, as said, are Endothermic
@@SwrveYT I am sorry, I really do not want to argue with you about the franchise we obviously both love and please do not take my comments as a hate or anything like that. I understand your point of view about the franchise and the story as a whole, however there simply are some things that I see in completetely different way and in my mind I cannot 100% agree with you on these, that is all. Nevertheless I always enjoy your videos and I am glad we have someone passionate like you who provides us content about Jurassic 😊
@@SwrveYT is the creepy rapper lady from chaos theory using the brain chips to control the raptors and the brain chips are coded to hunt people when they hear that frequency.
I'll tell you the problem with Jurassic World Rebirth, if it's a DINOSAUR FRANCHISE, WHY YOU KILLING THE DINOSAURS OFF?! It doesn't make ANY sense!
EXACTLY IF THEY ARE DEAD THEN NOT GOOD MOVIE
Lol calm down, it's in the name. Of course the dinosaurs will die.
I absolutely agree with you, It honestly doesn't.
Dinosaurs pterasaurs and every other prehistoric animal the franchise has introduced..hm..
@@josipaivanovic9548 Fr
Like, how can they be dying out, when illegal cloning is still a thing
Even if they all died in wild, there's still would be ones kept as illegal pets or for illegal fights or for illegal zoos
And most likely, they would often escape
Except what about resources? Are they rapidly being Nass produced to keep up with dinos intake feeding?
So the same plot hole as Fallen Kingdom.
@@darthcaedus9130 thats problem of those people and not really a story
Normal people most likely doesnt gonna have dinosaur pet, and if yes, its gonna be small one while rich people might have larger ones
Illegal zoos, again very rich people, like Pablo Escobar did
And illegal fights, they are already to the death, so they would just let victorious animal eat the dead one
Well illegal cloning could be controlled or not as common through government and law enforcement. We saw in dominion thare were efforts to shut down illegal breeding operations
@@cryptodino3roberts712 but thats easier said than done
And always new ones come and replace those who were arrested
Just like with illegal drugs
It's possible that the word we should be focusing on is "isolated", not equatorial - like critically endangered species today, the dinosaurs survive in their greatest numbers in protected/isolated regions where humans can't get to them. "Equatorial" is only specified because the film is set in a tropical region.
Killing off all the mainland dinosaurs is actually realistic. Makes sense too, as the large ones shouldn't be able to sustain themselves unless they hunt each other. They're eventually going to run out of food anyway.
True or just be outcompeted by smaller, more adaptable carnivores. The larger Herbivore dinos are a big problem. A herd of sauropods could decimate a national forest and its surrounding lakes and rivers which would call for relocation or authorized hunting of said invasive species as the dinos are now.
Good point
But lore accordingly all the dinos were made to withstand todays survival needs through genetic modification so that isn't a point
It makes no sense to me to kill them all or to level up the prices of their eggs to impress a few billionaires.
agree in large, complex ecosystems, apex predators and large herbivores often face significant challenges when it comes to sustaining themselves. but how might the dynamics of their extinction compare to the extinction events of other large prehistoric animals like mammoths?
The idea of dinosaurs living with humans all around the world is the coolest thing ever and something I've always wanted ever since I was like 7yo. Seeing this with the extremely high quality CGI we have nowadays like a childhood dream coming true. It's so sad that they're leaning towards the "all the dinosaurs are dying", cuz I'd pay to watch any movie with dinosaurs living among people the modern world.
They hyped up Dinosaurs on the mainland for nothing.
I would say this is cause Colin is no longer involved and he was the one pushing for it.
No
Dominion is supposed to be about Dinosaur in the mainland, but Mr. trevorrow just ruined that amazing concept!
@@GalvinBrackett I don't think so
They had their chance to do it but didn’t. So lets move on
I get that it doesn't make much sense unless earth may be entering another ice age, which in itself would be a cool concept and could open up the possibility of bringing Pleistocene animals back, but if they decide to just stick to the basic plot we know of so far I could see it being some kind of "back to the roots" moment for the francise.
The writers need to give out a logical explanation as to why they are doing this.
Maybe it’s something to do with DX? Or maybe someone who didn’t want to coexist with dinosaurs made something that is killing off the dinosaurs?
@@tylerquade5385 wait HHH and Shawn Michaels are in the film. I thought it was Scarlet Johansson.
I doubt they will
@@destroyerzilla7634 It's a Joke because Tyler said it was something to do with DX
@@Rahab198 thank you
I believe the change of direction could be due to the fact Colin is not involved and he was the one pushing for the story, but without his insight David Koepp and the other producers opted to go in another direction
The thing is... Some fans and channels that cover the franchise acted like Koepp was the missing piece of the puzzle and forgot that Michael Chrichton was an essential part of the team while developing the screenplay.
I feel like Koepp is very similar to Zack Snyder in making Rebel Moon. He is good at adapting content but pretty bad at creating new/inventing content.
The most Crichton-like movie (besides JP) we got in this franchise was Dominion. Yet some don’t realise that really and deny it if even said
@@SwrveYTI understand eventhink perfectly
@@SwrveYT yeah, and because of that I thought Dominion is better than people make it out to be, but it's still not a good movie. It also lacked the dark atmosphere and horror themes that go best with the Crichton style.
@@SwrveYT Well, it has some elements. If you only count the ¨Jurassic World¨ trilogy it´s the one that takes more from the novels, I give you that.
But, ¨The Lost Word¨ feels a lot more like a Chrichton novel because it was literally based on the second one. The novel and the movie develop together.
The other movies aside the first two are derivates or inspired in some specific sections at maximum.
The only two movies that are a literal adaptation are the first two, that´s why those are still the ones that feel like the original style, they have Spielberg, Crichton, ILM, and Stan Winston.
That´s why there's no debate on the first two being the originals, and superior.
Jurassic 3 set the tone for the World trilogy and I feel like Rebirth will keep the same judging by the new info.
Wiping out Dinosaurs from a Jurassic Park movie is like making Lightsabers completely null in Star Wars-
Oh wait a second...
Seriously what is happening to movies?
I hope there will be more on new Pleistocene mammals, Paleozoic insects/arthropods, and Bioluminescent dinosaurs while the third Jurassic Trilogy would have less regular dinosaurs with new designs and also we need more aquatic dinosaurs when the Mosasaurus will die soon.
L take
You guys didn't like these big moths from Dominion but you want other creatures from the Mesozoic Era, you guys are unchangeable
Everytime JW movies introduce new dinosaurs/animals the movies get worse
@@ishwenbipat Worse is a subjective opinion over every movies, what if I tell you, that is not the movie supposed to be worst
@@ishwenbipat Is it worst to have more pleistocene mammals, bioluminescent dinosaurs, and paleozoic insects after Parasaurolophus lux, Smilodon, and Giant Locust?
The only way I can see the Dinosaurs no longer thiriving is the fact that the environment is suited to support such megafauna (even though an ecosystem is at its healthiest with large numbers of megafauna). That, or diesease like you said.
Other than that, I really don't think the different climate alone would cause Dinosaurs (as whole) to die off since they're a very diverse and adaptable group of animals (even today). Even if the global climate was unsuitable for them, why would they actively spread out into the colder regions?
I do wanna point out that Velociraptor in reality was covered in feathers and it lived in the hot Mongolian desert.
The Gobi desert was probably much different back then, I’m pretty sure it had a more forested and tropical climate back then
@@joebarnes2856 Good point, but do want to say from my research the Gobi desert was forested in some parts and dry and hot in other parts, so your not wrong.
I still wish they'd do an Alien style, Jurassic film. Set on a cargo ship will some type of Raptor or Raptors. Or maybe does anyone remember Cadillacs and Dinosaurs.
I personally really like the plot idea for the movie. I kind of look at it like this- I mean sure they may have decided to restrict the dinosaurs into smaller areas, but it still seems like there's more areas around the world rather than just one island, but even if they're still on an island, I'm okay with it because island settings are still good and more eery. Also don't forget, this next movie won't just be limited to a jungle setting- there's also the oceans, the entire sky, as well as possibly those mayan caves.
Lets be honest tho, you can't argue against that these dinos have been in tropical/warm clinates their entire lives, it's like putting a fish in water that's a little warmer or cooler than it's natural habitat, it'll live but probably not as long
If they are all gonna die then call it jurassic world exrinction
Extinction*
Thank you! I AGREE!
I mean why would they call it rebirth but dinosaurus are dying
Yeah jurassic world EXTINCTION
Gamera?
Lot can change in 5 years. I'm not concerned at all
The fact that they’re killing the Mosasaurus is just pure menace 😠
I still love Jurassic world dominion, mainly because it left everything with an opened door dinosaurs on the mainland , and it’s not just the raptors or compy s , it’s all of them.
Exactly!
As a Jurassic fan since the first movie, yeah they do need to change this if they are going this direction o3o
Dinosaurs adapted to the world, we want to see them how we see animals. But I feel like a lot of people are still on the mindset of "Give it a Rated R rating. Make it scary like the first movies" which involved Dinos in a jungle o3o
If blue or betta die or are dead I’m never gonna watch a Jurassic movie again
It would make more sense if they were dying out due to inbreeding sense every individual of each species is just a repeating clone
Amen! If it's fare for us humans to live in the world it should be fare for the dinosaurs.
The thing is, this movie will be set in the future within the timeline, meaning that we just have know idea whats taken place in the time period between Dominion and Rebirth. Something could have happened within that time period which may explain why the dinosaurs are migrating, we just don't know. I think its a good move for them to set the movie in the future as it opens the door for not only sequels, but also prequels as well, meaning that we could have more history and lore. I like the plot so far, it sounds intriguing.
Me:
Kill the Dinosaurs please
It's the TRUE SEQUEL of Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom ^^
3:45 This might seem off topic from the video but I actually predicted that Brooklyn was still alive in chaos theory
I think there is no sense on killing off most dinosaus. I also think that the detail of the plot that said that dinosaurs were limited to equatorial areas can be changed as the reception of the story of the movie is not well recieved, i think they are trying to see how that aspect of the plot sets with the fanatics and potential audience. So i think some reshoots can change that.
True, making the move to the line could only be temporary I guess
I hope
The fact that part of it is filmed in Malta might mean that the dinosaurs are simply restricted to somewhat warmer climates, including subtropical and Mediterranean-style climates. I think they really just mean less of the sort of Canada/California/Finland UK stuff. If it is the sea-reptiles in Malta, it's possible they range about a bit more because they are aquatic, the Mediterranean is pretty warm.
Wow. im suprise that dominion was hated in 2022 and now Rebith is hated because they kill the stupid collin dino world story. I think the fans dont know what they want
We never do. It’s extremely frustrating
Some of us do, and they don’t listen
This.
it's not really like that, as a fan I can tell you that although dominion is a mistake, deleting it and removing basic concepts that jw3 put in is even worse. dominion was a mistake in my opinion, but that doesn't mean the ways that could have been followed were wrong. nevertheless they decided to go back by erasing what was positive, also erasing more original ideas for future projects, as chaos theory was able to do. (This Is my opinion)
@@godzillino6369 well, i think everyone must go back to basics if something is wrong.
What if the dinosaurs are getting killed off by some virus like in "planet of the apes"?
What if they are trying to trick everyone by saying this is the plot but it actually isn’t ?
5:12 some kind of DX virus? Of course theyre not gonna spoil that in the plot synopsis
I am excited for Jurassic 7 but it just doesn't seem the best so far...I really wish they'd keep the humans coexisting with dinosaurs but mix it with the og jurassic park feeling, i loved when the movies had a scary/horror touch to them rather then just hybrid dinos fighting 😔😔(sorry my grammar isn't the best)
I was really hopeful for more Battle at big rock kind of movies or shows. Terror. Fear. Bring back the fear.
What’s weird is that things like Dominion, Chaos Theory, The Dinotracker, and Battle at Big Rock showed that the dinosaurs were thriving in the modern world. Plus, this would mean Beta, Blue, Bumpy, and any other fan favorite dinosaur that didn’t or couldn’t make it to the equator are dead.
Ive been thinking what if the ecology reason is a misdirect and it's really dx (if ya know ya know) killing them in colder environments and this mission is to find a cure
That could be interesting!
Could Choas Theory season 2 explain that part of the synopsis?
I think it's important to remembers that it says they thrive in "equitorial environments", not necesarily on the equator, and to add to that an equetorial environment is described to be regions that often experience a hot climate with little seasonal variation, like with that description you could say they can live in Florida, overall I think it's more like, imagine them in warm places that don't get sevear winters, like we won't be seeing them in Canada and possibly the top half of the U.S. outside of deserts, like these things need a lot of food as well which isn't really easy to come by in winter
Swerve, I Can Very Much Agree With You.
You raise some good points, I would like to see stories on mainland showing how people would deal with dinosaurs. It was a unexpected choice for them to say the dinosaurs weren't doing well everywhere else but doing well in equatorial areas. For me I would like to see a story about people who see dinosaurs as invasive species and hunt them.
Bro the Compy just running away with the guy’s GoPro 😂😂
In gamingbeavers comments someone said that if the dinosaurs were dying it would be called Jurassic world extinction, but the movie is called Jurassic world rebirth, so i think its about humanity trying to protect humanity and life as a whole, so a rebirth of life on earth, with humans, and dinosaurs.
I think this is the way to go. A lot of fans ( including myself ) hated how the dinosaurs spread all across the globe in the span of a few years. Yes some were sold at the auction and genetic power was unleashed. But it would've been so much better if they were restricted to only certain climates. Which is what Jurassic World Rebirth is doing. It also goes back to one of the old taglines for Jurassic Park 4 that was " Evolve or die " something like that. So this could mean that the dinosaurs have failed to adapt to rapid climate change or unable to get the necessary resources.
There is also the possibility that hunting lead to the decline of some of the dinosaurs on the mainland.
They needed the next step for the entire idea.
JP 1, JP2 and JP3 were "aaah, we're on an island with dinosaurs. We need to get off that island"
And the writers were ... "What else can we tell? ..."
JW 1 : ' in the end the idea of a park worked. So now lets imagine the same from before with an island full with 15k tourists, lol'
JW2 (I actually very appreciate that conclusive decission) : the entire island is completely threatened with every single dinosaur on it because it FCKNG EXPLODES and some crazy maniacs save all of the dinosaur-species from the archipelago.
-> NEW BIG INITIAL SITUATION: NOW THE DINOSAURS LIVE EVERYWHERE AROUND THE GLOBE ...
All of this were conclusive steps ...
And then universal noticed .. they actually don't fckng know what to tell with and how to use this intital situation.
So they quickly click-spamed all the necessary 'undo'-buttons and said "fck, go back, GO BACK!" ...
THAT is the biggest problem ...
I think Jurassic world domination set up good future for upcoming project. They focus on dinosaurs not human dinosaurs.
Battle at Big Rock was SO GOOD, we need that
I actually like how they’ve gone down the REALISTIC route and not pretended species brought back to life can survive in an environment so VASTLY different to the one they once thrived in
I mean yeah but they have already been shown to eat modern plants for years so why make it different
I meant why is it all of a sudden killing them
@@tyrannofang it’s not all of a sudden it’s 5 years
@@tyrannofangnowhere in the synopsis did it explicitly state the dinosaurs were dying. People have latched onto this idea for no reason.
Again, these modern day monsters were specifically designed to be capable to thrive in every climate in the world… as said in the video (which was a main point)
I do like going back to the island aspect , Is what we grew up with . Yes we did have the Buck Rex going to a city which was awesome , but Fallen Kingdom and Dominion felt off and it felt like it was something else , If They are killing off the dinosaurs they can still . Use the ones in the island to go back to their Roots , 3c films had a an idea for a plot that would have been perfect . For a rival park like a Carnival . Anyways sorry for the long comment Great video
Hey Swrve, I was wondering, could you make a personal video on why you like Dominion?
A lot of people don't like the movie, and I really think it would be a good idea for another Jurassic superfan like yourself to make a video on the more in-depth details Jurassic fans and average movie watchers might miss. I feel like making that video would help a lot more people realize more about Dominion, compared to their original watch, and possibly help more people like the movie. I would do this myself, but I'm really busy at the moment and I'm pretty sure your video would get more views and spread to a larger audience 😅
I hope its just some what slight miss information just to slightly throw people off so they can leave a surprise or its just that they've rounded up most of the dinos and moved them to sanctuary's. As ecologically doesn't make sense as a lot of dinosaurs didn't even live in tropical rainforest, just as an example pachyrhinosaurus. They lived in colder areas of the globe even surviving snowy environments in winter which is our current understanding of the creature, so why would that move to the equator. I'm still excited for the film, it just seems off with this recent information we have gotten for the film.
There *must* be something else too. They can't just show us a dinosaur sanctuary in the Alps then tell us that only hot climates are fit for dinosaurs. David Koepp is not stupid.
5:43 don't forget that most of the species In the jurassic franchise would have lived In more temperate environments
Agreed. This kind of plot line makes no sense, now if governments are forcing them there to get rid of them all somewhere that would make sense sort of
Honestly I know a some people are going to disagree with me but rebirth reminds me of the original three Jurassic movies it seems to me as if dinosaurs were doing fine for a few years and over 5 years they were gradually not doing as well, and I mean think about it a Dinosaur roaming the streets just isn’t natural. Yet again I’m sure some people are going to disagree with me.
That's real, I Hope It Will looks like the original Trilogy, but at the same time It looks like "ehi, Remember dominion? Eliminate It"... Just my opinion
@@godzillino6369 I agree.
So Universal is back tracking on their already mishandled plot?
This is a case where back tracking is the right move. And I'm sure they have some kind of in movie explanation. And I disliked dominion so much that a single sentence that even have makes sense will suffice for me. And even if it doesn't the movie could still be great lol
@@NoStyleDutch
Considering they had 3 movies and still fumbled it and how it's only been a few years since the last one I'm not holding my breath.
@@NoStyleDutchwhy dislike it so much?
I like how they established them being all over the world on every continent, and now they tracking back on doing that 😂
Seems perfectly resonable. They coukd do super well in some isoalted areas
The more I hear about the plot the more I start to hate it
It’s actually my birthday today and I doing a marathon of these videos thank you for putting a smile on my face 💚🦕🦖
WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHATS REALLY GOING ON....IM WAITING TILL THE FILM DROPS TO HAVE ANY SAY ON WHATS GOING ON...I FEEL LIKE THERES TOO MANY CHANNELS WITH THEORIES THAT KINDVE RUIN THE PLOTS TRYING TO DISSECT AND FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING...WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW THE MOVIE BEFORE IT EVEN COMES OUT AND I BLAME IMPATIENT FANS...I HOPE EVERY ONE IS WRONG ABOUT THIS FILM AND THAT ITS BETTER THAN EXPECTED. LOVE THE CONTENT SWRVE!
Remember, just because the climate is favorable to dinosaurs in 2023 doesn’t mean that it will be so in 2028. An eruption of Krakatoa hundreds of years ago plunged the northern hemisphere into a 2 year mini ice age with brutal long winters resulting in widespread famine. If that were to happen again then many dinosaurs might not be able to survive it. And even though some species can thrive in cold climates as shown in Camp Cretaceous and Dominion, most may not be able to survive extended periods of cold or survive but not very well. Not just because of the cold but also food supply as I’m sure it takes a lot of vegetation to sustain large herbivorous dinosaurs.
They're gonna find a way to fck this up
Dinosaurs survived the extinction event in the end of the Triassic, while most of the other big reptiles did not. Because the climate actually got colder for a while. Which very well proves that even the real Dinosaurs were thriving in colder climates. But that did not fit this script, so we just rewrite what we know about prehistory... again.
I feel it's less just colder climates but seasonal change. Dinosaurs lived in a time of great realitive stability
Not to mention the Triassic extinction was the 5th most devastating one in history, while K-T was the 3rd (after the Capetian & Permian-Triassic "Great Dying"). Dinosaurs were much more resilient as a general group - & technically they even survived K-T too.
@@alharron2145 I think people either forget that birds are dinosaurs or refuse to accept it
Why would they do that? Dominion set up the next films perfectly, but now they're going to ignore all that for a plot like, 'Oh yeah, the dinosaurs actually died, lol'? Why? There was so much potential with dinosaurs on the mainland, and this is the direction they're taking? Even though I'm curious to see how they'll handle it, I'm both cautious and excited for the film. I just hope they can make something out of this plot. The movie is called Jurassic World "Rebirth", so maybe the dinosaurs aren't necessarily 'dying.' But still
That's not what's happening
@@cryptodino3roberts712 then tell me cause that was what iv heard
@@Kyoryu_Unshaken that's an embellishment of the words in the official plot synopsis. Obviously the full details are still unknown but all is said is that they are not adapting well in the global sense to modern climate . It does not expressly mean all other dinosaurs have died out except for equatorial regions. Could also entail most dinosaur populations have been corraled to more tropical regions
@@cryptodino3roberts712 Well that sounds better thanks for clearing that up
I swear I hope to see more Dino’s and more Dino action it’s a dinosaur movie!
Diet is a very important factor, herbi dinosaurs feeded mostly on ferns and cycads, wich are not the dominant plant life anymore. Also dinosaurs would have to compete with modern animals for resources, it would not be that weird if the mosa was outcompeted by orcas. If herbi dinos die, big theropods would die as well, cause there are no modern animals big enough to keep them fed on a regular basis (apart from elephants and maybe rhinos). Perhaps small carnivorous dinos could survive if they find a nische, but i dont see the others triving without human help. In nublar the island was full of cycads and ferns and the animals had no competition from modern fauna. Altough nublar ecosistem would have probably collapsed anyway in a couple of decades, because there were too many dinosaurs in such a small island.
My opinion, they’re doing this intentionally to bring back a sense of mystery to the dinosaurs, much like that first film, with the dinosaurs lurking in the distance out of sight, never knowing when they might pop up! 😓
The most we got on dino human conflicts were sparse scenes where they caused an inconvenience or direct threat to humans. The rest was spying bullshit and attack of the giant bugs. All that build up to dinos vs humans to just bottom out the dinos. But this is supposed to be the next big movie right?
Also even prehistorically not all dinosaurs lived in tropical climates. There were so many kinds of dinosaurs living in so many different climates across the globe. Even one kind of T-rex lived in the snow. So it doesn't make any sense why they would shift every single one of the dinosaurs to tropical environment.
Edit: I would also like to add that I think Jurassic world rebirth is misunderstanding why people hated Dominion. We loved that dinosaurs are spreading all over the world. It opens the door so much potential. It let us imagine so many interesting scenarios and stories of how humans are gonna live in a new world like that. What audience actually were disappointed by is that dinosaurs weren't the central conflict but some oversized bugs who people didn't care about. How then is killing off dinosaurs going to solve that? It's just more of the same but to a greater extent because now we don't even have dinosaurs taking over the world.
1:17 YEET
Them dying off makes more Sense(reallistically) than they being able to Coexist
This is unrelated but have you seen the new toy pack with buff Nedry on a motorcycle and the diloph?
Made me lmao in target 😂😂😂
I’m still excited for rebirth, but killing off the entire set up of the world trilogy to have dindosaurs living amongst humans, makes me mad
Me too
I look forward to seeing the movie.
I think the dinosaurs would blow up and break through their zone's, see a stampede through homes. humans dying out since dino like raptors are deadly at 6 months. forcing humans to build new cities with barriers as the dinosaurs taking over the rest of the world.
*excited for rebirth*
*Sees the plot*
"My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"
I couldn't agree more on this video
All that world building that
Jurassic world fallen Kingdom
Jurassic world dominion
Battle at big rock
Dinotracker
Jurassic world into the wild
And chaos theory
Set up
All that world building
Gone to wasted potential
We could have had a story focused on the Indoraptor eggs that managed to escape in fallen Kingdom
Or how dinosaurs spread all over the world
Or a movie that introduced the DX diseases from the novels
Only expect of it having a killing effect on the dinosaurs
It would backfired on the humans
Similar to how in planet of the apes were the simian flu whipped out most of humanity and the apes where left to rule the earth
I would have loved it if Jurassic world rebirth focused on that
But instead
We got a plot that strate up rips off the plot for alien romulus
And the dinosaurs arnt even world wide anymore
I recently rewached all 4 Or the new Planet of the Apes films
And just watching those movies made me realise
Not only are these some of the greatest science fiction films ever made
But this is the kinda plot I want a future Jurassic trilogy to be about
No
I dont want the dinosaurs to start talking
Or become sentient
It works in Planet of the apes because apes are our closest living relatives
And I just want a Jurassic world film to finally introduce the DX diseases
I also just recently watched alien romulus
And while I did enjoy the movie
After hearing the plot synopsis for jurassic world rebirth
I can't help but feel like this inspiration dosent work for so many reasons
If you haven't seen alien romulus
Go see it
Then read all that has come out about jurassic world rebirth so far
Then you'll see what I mean
That would be awesome 👏
Wait how does it ripoff of Alien Romulus's plot? Are the characters going into outer space to fight cloned monsters with a human-monster hybrid at the end?
Or are they going to Isla Nublar to clone velociraptors from what is left of the Big One and make enhanced super velociraptors and the main characters have to fight a Human-Raptor hybrid?
@Xenotaris it's about a retrieving mission
And the characters come face to face with deadly creatures
All the while they discover a medical serum that could improve human lives made from the creatures DNA
But as a nasty side effect it can get humans pregnant with human creature Hybrids
@Xenotaris so yah
Basically the plot of Alien romulus but with dinosaurs
Maybe the food source is not enough for them anymore? Not enough trees or meat.
What ever happened to "Life finds a way"??
And Understand Your Fears.
Why did they completely ignore that we had dinosaurs roaming with man. That would have been epic
We gonna have LOCUSTS instead of dinosaurs in a Jurassic movie before GTA 6... Oh it already happened 😅
Can't wait for this movie and keep on the grind
I feel like the only reason they did this was so they can bring back the jungles for some reason.
Sure, the early generations would likely be dying off. But they would also be multiplying. Humans and dinosaurs would both need to adjust to living together.
Personally I think it makes sense for the dinosaurs to move to warmer climates. 🤷🏻
A lot of animals migrate with the changing seasons. And I thought it was silly to put so many dinos in frigid environments. Again thats a personal opinion, but I have high hopes for Rebirth.
My thoughts and concerns exactly!
Alot of people here are getting overly mad at wild conclusions at a plot synopsis that is meant to be vague as it is meant to be a teaser. Every one here jumping the gun for no real reason
I do have an hypothesis/theory about why they decline. I may sound stupid but here it goes:
**in JW/dominion, they show the same thing what happen to todays endangered animals: poaching, hunting and black markets.
Maybe they decline because they become a more popular target for hunters and poachers to focus on. Leading to overhunting aswell lack of male or female for the species to reproduce.
**Maybe they can't compete with modern mammals?
Sure many dinosaurs are more powerfull than todays mammals, but dinosaurs do have an 'Achilles Heel': eggs!.
smaller mammals like rats, wolverine, weasels and badgers might find these nest and plunder eggs.
that can be a reason why northern dinosaur species decline.
**Maybe the around the Equator can be a mythical inspiration for many 'cryptid' dinosaurs.
such as Mokele Mbembe, Ropen, New Guinean Iguanodon, Kasai Rex, Kaiaimunu and mbielu-mbielu-mbielu ???
Thank you! It doesn’t make sense that dinosaurs cannot handle modern ecology - if it refers to climate - because they lived in snowy and icy environments back in the day, too.
There two hybrids from other cartoon show they were breed to live in cold place
Well to be fair I think theaim thing dinosaurs would be struggling to adapt to is not colder climates but seasonal change. Many dinosaurs lived in a period of great stability. Plus these dinosaurs were originally engineered to survive in a tropical climate
Wait is the mosasaurus actually gonna die