Is Cancel Culture Vindictive Narcissism?

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  • @DarrenFMagee
    @DarrenFMagee  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The videos I make are topics suggested by you the viewer. Feel free to suggest any mental health or psychology subjects you'd like me to cover in future videos. Just a reminder though, these videos are not a substitute for support from a mental health professional.

  • @guguigugu
    @guguigugu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    spot on. i realized that "discussions" with the woke crows reminded me of trying to reason with my narcissistic father - gaslighting, derailing, a slew of accusations, and in the end everything is always my fault. i do not engage them or him any more.

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not being baited into an induced conversation and managing healthy boundaries. Good for you

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smart as your health is everything!

  • @gagey1988
    @gagey1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Cancel culture is like an inversion of the self-esteem movement. Whereas before my generation was showered in praise and claims of perfection in every way, it's as if we have reversed that. Now, we hunt down those we deem imperfect and we brand them with the opposite of the praise we received. Both movements are steeped in narcissism. Some of it is understandable.

  • @bombshelterfoxes
    @bombshelterfoxes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have wondered if Collective Narcissism is a good way to describe a vindictive mob

  • @joyjones7745
    @joyjones7745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    All I know is that it’s hard not to become narcissistic when you’re trying to catch a narcissist or fighting against narcissist.

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉we mirror image when something not right 😂😂😂😂become just like them to fight the fight 🙌💯🙏🏽🙌💯🙏🏽🙌💯

  • @carlosfurtado1164
    @carlosfurtado1164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The worst part about cancel culture/woke movement is that it makes genuine social justice issues far worse. They are not remotely interested in social justice, or at least in doing any of the work, only indulge in their own narcissism.
    Oftentimes, they are people who were overindulged, helicoptered and put on a pedestal, thus creating a sense of entitlement which prevents them from dealing with setbacks and disappointments in a constructive way.
    And besides those who disagree with them, the ones who suffer the most are the ones the woke are trying to "save"

  • @toddcote2710
    @toddcote2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When people are vindictive against another and all the flying monkeys join in it has the spirit of narcissism!

  • @jacquelinefroehle3583
    @jacquelinefroehle3583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The world is infected with narcissism.

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏🏽🙌💯🙏🏽🙌💯🙏🏽🙌💯✅

  • @startnewtherapy9918
    @startnewtherapy9918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'd say yes it is vindictive narcissism

  • @creativelife2585
    @creativelife2585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Spot on Darren !

  • @queenoflammersland8562
    @queenoflammersland8562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bravo! Change cannot come through fear!

  • @deetheman3508
    @deetheman3508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That was pretty insightful thanks for sharing

  • @michaelkrull3331
    @michaelkrull3331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To anyone who to talks about cancel culture like it's something new I point out Socrates as an example of how it's not.

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s a good example and one I missed when giving examples of it not being a new thing. Thank you for sharing

  • @mdmmalou
    @mdmmalou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this open view with regard to the past 2 years. I have no idea (still not!) why so much fear has been spread by all western politicians together, now a days. But the thing is; I learned from history that one of the common tactics by those 'In Power' is to divide the crowd by fearmongering/ intimidation/manipulation, to take advantage of that. The scary thing is, that if you'r thoughtful and less afraid, or just don't agree...you suddenly don't excist as a human anymore bc you justvdon't fit their agenda! In particular the one-sided coverage of the sensational propaganda Mainstream Media is the most dangerous in my humble opinion... They smear critical thinkers to the bone, to make all frightened people take side. Which has effect of our prived connections, who suddenly become likr intolarable monsters against all who think just different or don't obay/commit to all fearmongering.
    Its like the most 'popular narcissistic kid' in the class pits the whole class against those who don't participate in their narcissistic power! But remember.. thats how wars start..
    Good you bring this up! Giving others the opportunity to respond.

  • @H.Hardrada
    @H.Hardrada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the videos. They have helped me with my own work. I have started working on a treatise that analyzes malignant behavior relating to cluster B throughout history. I believe the ancients knew about these human archetypes many millenia ago but didn't have the scientific language to articulate it. Because of this, many lessons about narcissism and other malignant behavior have come down to us as allegorical stories and mythologies. It is up to us to unpack them and extract out the knowledge. There is a lot the ancients can still teach us about ourselves. We just have to make sure they don't get canceled first... If it is not too much to ask, I was wondering if you could propose any literature that can provide further knowledge on the subject. I would greatly appreciate it.
    Thank you,

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you I’m glad you find the videos helpful. I think old, even ancient literature is full of personality types, and human interactions. Books like Moby Dick, The Count of Monte Cristo etc have great examples in them

  • @fiftyshadesofgrey1991
    @fiftyshadesofgrey1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    it`s a kind of fascism as the word itself meaning "offense"

  • @mitchelmisaki4876
    @mitchelmisaki4876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The thought process, delusions, and observable behavior (abusive) is identical to that of narcissism. I think we try to overanalyze this when it's pretty straight forward. Extreme personalities adopt extreme ideologies. If we as a society are too afraid to call it what it is, then we can never understand the issue on a collective level. Sadly, the APA is filled with pathological narcissists and continue to violate their own ethics code. So the most important organization for distributing this knowledge to the public is in fact, part of the ideological left. Props to the psychologists who don't ascribe to this. Most importantly, we have failed to stand up to this and flex our moral strength. Instead, we make excuses for the behavior of these narcissists at the expense of the victims. Social justice is just collective narcissism. PS, there are more than just a few similar characteristics. It's identical in almost every single way, just on a collective level.

    • @nugget6635
      @nugget6635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Collective narcissism is not narcissism actually.. Because you see narcissism is when 1 single person has the behavior of a collective. I call Cancel Culture a form of tribalism. It's tribal behavior. Narcissists are 1-man tribe sort of speaking.

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is also ego driven, and a collective of like minds and behaviours gives them validation

  • @Thenineoh
    @Thenineoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    the whole 'self esteem' movement in the 90s created an entire generation of narcissists

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a taught behavior now bullies will rule this a dam night mare 😢

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now us empathic s must take control because it’s right and truth ❤🎉🙏🏽🙌🙏🏽🙌🙏🏽🙌💯💯💯

  • @Christy-myplace
    @Christy-myplace ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m happy to hear you’re thoughts on this. I’ve been seeking to understand my own anger regarding politics/society. Especially since 2015 when, here in the US, we underwent intense change. I do see that my anger on social media or in conversation is fueled by fear and panic. A sense of urgency to turn things around before it’s “too late”. Obviously, this doesn’t convince others in any way. It just puts walls up. We are unable to listen. I’ve been off social media for a while and am asking myself what role I want it to play in my life, if any. What does SM mean to me or even others.

  • @kristinmeyer489
    @kristinmeyer489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't you know shades of gray ONLY occur in sadistic sexual movies?

  • @shannonluck5066
    @shannonluck5066 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Perspective Darren! I wondered about this new so called "Woke-ism". It feels yucky 🤢... much like conspiracists, it's the old "I know something you don't know!" 😮 Keep up your good work! You're vids are now my morning devotions. 🙂

  • @tammyfitzgerald5336
    @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This anger a different type of anger never ever I seen this before I am 55 😮😮😮😮😮😮wtf

  • @jolly7728
    @jolly7728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Adult children often cancel their parents despite having received a fine up bringing from them by any standard (of course, parents do make mistakes -- occasionally do or say the wrong things). Not much is said about familial cancellation culture, surely one of the most complex areas of today's termination way of life now approaching epidemic proportions.
    In some family systems, one parent is a malignant narcissist and has turned the children into flying monkeys, which results in parental alienation for the other parent or both parents. It seems like vindictive narcissism is a factor in many if not most families, ranging from emotional distress to criminal behavior.

    • @nugget6635
      @nugget6635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they are adult children it's very likely the parents are overbearing. Being overbearing is not what I call a "fine upbringing" it's the opposite. Overbearing parents create narcissists, borderlines, histrionics and avoidants.

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว

      They reach this shit w being so dam sick and ocd with kids 🎉this is taught my own experience

  • @eheper
    @eheper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    #HandmaidsTale is so far the best depiction of today's reality everywhere. The truth is out there, details are evidence.

  • @NarutoUzumakiofficial
    @NarutoUzumakiofficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd say it's just all around dark traid. Depending on it's depth. Not every narc is a psychopath and not every pyschopath is a malc and not every malc is a narc.
    Narcs would love to just cancel people just to feel on top or for revenge
    a pyschopath which is also linked to cancel culture, fuaxgressives and the alt-right (same group tbh) would have a mob and be more willing to see that person in pain.
    a malc would be more long term about it. Mix all three these together watch out.. It's happened to me and i ended up relapsing, in a rehab hospital for mental health, and had to vanish from everything.

  • @kittenclawsguitarvideos6147
    @kittenclawsguitarvideos6147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Has this been getting worse in the last five years?

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is off the hook mental hospital s closed so they filling up prisons 😢

  • @clairelariviere3122
    @clairelariviere3122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent vidéo. It sounds a lot like certain former working royals.

  • @lisarochwarg4707
    @lisarochwarg4707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me of Kanye West going to war against his ex-wife, and Megan Markle going to war against the British Royals.
    Both Kanye and Megan are narcissists.

  • @marcellusrobinson1465
    @marcellusrobinson1465 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wokeness is narcissism

  • @kimhaas7586
    @kimhaas7586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh dear. Where do I start. I am firmly in the liberal camp here in the US. I get my news from 1st degree resources primarily. Podcasts, books by experts, and high quality journals and newspapers (US and foreign). Very little cable news. I’m also the truth teller kid from a narcissistic family that was also in a religious cult. So, when I see people complaining of cancel culture, what I see are the same people who think there’s a war on Christmas. Or a war on religious people. Or a war on Snow White. Having observed and participated in American politics and culture all my life, I see “cancel culture” as a short cut, thought stopping, term that has been broadly tested in focus groups. It doesn’t mean the left doesn’t have similar buzzwords but they’re usually directed at other lefties. (Probably cooked up by the same focus group political marketers). There is a sense of unregulated wokeness on our side. Some people wear their wokeness as a badge of honor without much self reflection. But the much bigger problem is the degree to which the right hides behind a wall of righteous indignation and defends their right to be cruel to others. They claim we aren’t treating them with respect because we aren’t listening to their rationalizations for why they behave the way they do. I’ll leave it to Steve Hassan to explain what is happening to them. Let’s just put it this way: we are trying desperately hard to get white Republican men to get vaccinated. They are stubbornly resistant to reason in this regard. And some of them will invoke this argument that we have to respect their reasons for not getting the shot, much of that reason having to do with encroachment on their freedom. They will complain that cancel culture is trying to deprive them of their rugged individualism and it’s up to the rest of us to watch out for our own health. They’ve been fed this message by their social media abc news orgs for about 40 years. There is no reasoning with them. Their grievances come from a activated emotional state. I know this because my boyfriend is one of them. I’ve seen the knee jerk reactions, the thought stopping mantras, the intense emotional outpouring of grievance, his insistence that it’s a dog eat dog world. We can’t have that kind of attitude during a pandemic. To defeat Covid, we must act communally everywhere in the world. But I’ve given up talking to him about it. He’s an adult. If he gets sick now, it’s because he valued his political identity over his own health. I have to leave it alone and accept that’s what he wants. But he wants it because his leaders have told him that the rest of us are the enemy, that we are trying to cancel him. Now, I ask you, cui bono, Darren? Cancel culture is a slogan. It’s a mechanism driving disunity and prevents us from allying with each other against our common enemies. And those enemies are...?

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's a very difficult question to answer - to be short, and this certainly isn't true in every case, but I think to some the enemy is anyone who doesn't agree.

    • @gagey1988
      @gagey1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The irony.

    • @jacquelinefroehle3583
      @jacquelinefroehle3583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Demand that people take vaccines for covid is illegal and is controlling narcissism. People got covid even with vaccines. What you are complaining about on the right....is what you are. It takes one to know one.

    • @daemonspring
      @daemonspring 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      > we are trying desperately hard to get white Republican men to get vaccinated.
      It didn't work, and never will, because you are missing the necessary foundations.
      > There is no reasoning with them. Their grievances come from a activated emotional state.
      Then understanding the root cause of that activated emotional state is required. Talking and reasoning about a higher level topic beforehand will be fruitless.
      > We can’t have that kind of attitude during a pandemic.
      You can't? You did.
      Your country was not ready to deal with a pandemic efficiently. You cannot force people to be in a more convenient emotional state so that a disaster is easier to handle. Making your country more prepared for unified action will probably take decades of effort and you won't get anywhere by trying to eliminate an emotional problem by declaring it to be bad to have during a pandemic.
      The harder people try to force things to change via shortcuts, the more the process is slowed down. It just makes people who are already defensive more defensive. You can't demand trust.
      You must investigate and address the source of these emotional problems. You are clearly aware that an emotional problem exists, yet you do not seem to understand the full nature of it or how to resolve it. Too much of the US is blind to how emotions function and where they develop from. There is a sense that emotions are just an inconvenience and that people who are feeling them are just being difficult. If people aren't doing what they are supposed to, just punish them harder! This goes nowhere.
      > But the much bigger problem is the degree to which the right hides behind a wall of righteous indignation and defends their right to be cruel to others.
      I see this from all political camps in the US. This is exactly the attitude displayed by people who pull fire alarms to interfere with people holding lectures they don't like. Or people who punch "Nazis".
      Emotionally immature behaviour infests the entire spectrum of political discourse. Immature people can be found wearing every colour of t-shirt. Debating over which camp has more immature people than the other does not address the overall problem.
      > Cancel culture is a slogan.
      Just because some people misuse terms does not mean the terms can't be used accurately. "Cancel Culture" is used both as a slogan and a description of coercive and emotionally immature behaviour.
      Left and right. The whole of the US is infested with emotionally immature people making nonsensical arguments and misusing words. If you're thinking about which side is worse than the other then you are wasting your time. Both "sides" are infested.
      The US's "newsworthy" political disputes are a distraction. Noise. The root problem is a mental health one. A lack of emotional maturity. If the population cannot hold a rational debate because they have emotional problems, what is the point in having political debates? They won't be about the politics, they'll be about the emotional problems the participants have no self-awareness of. You can't build higher without addressing the weak foundations.
      These conflicts will not be solved by the "left" or the "right", they will be solved by people who quietly share with others how emotions work.
      The desire to form into unified political camps, rather than associate with individuals based on assessment of their maturity, is a sign of this widespread immaturity. Mature individuals assess other individuals, they do not engage with such inconsistent collectives like "left" and "right". The rarely identify with a grand "we" unless it's an actual organisation with a proper structure that makes it consistent enough to identify with. Mature people are looking for maturity, not a set of opinions, because which set of opinions someone holds doesn't always tell you that they got to those opinions in a sensible way.
      You do not need unity of opinion, you need standards of behaviour, which will naturally lead to conflict resolution. The less you identify with nebulously large political groups, the less likely you are to associate with people who are just there to chant slogans.
      > It’s a mechanism driving disunity
      The mechanism driving disunity is not a slogan, it is emotionally immature behaviour that prevents people resolving conflicts. Slogans do not work on emotionally mature people.
      > And those enemies are...?
      Your enemy is not a person, but an affliction of people: emotional immaturity. Those afflicted often have no idea that they are immature because they don't even know what maturity looks like. They do not understand emotions. This makes it difficult for them to teach their children anything about emotions either. They are trapped in reactionary behaviour because they did not develop a full understanding of how to cope with their emotions. They are a collection of now maladaptive coping strategies which probably helped them survive in childhood.
      I recommend the following books:
      - "Recovering from Emotionally Immature Parents" by Lindsay C Gibson: Succinctly describes emotionally immature behaviour and the relationship system they form. Very relevant to how political groups identify with each other.
      - "For Your Own Good" by Alice Miller: Shows quite well how poor standards of child-raising underpinned Nazi Germany's ability to exist by supplying an obedient population conditioned to follow an authoritarian system.
      I never understood US politics by reading about politics. My clearest understanding of it came from reading about psychology and child development.

  • @ray1348
    @ray1348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time viewer; hesitant to subscribe; Who is Darren F. Magee? Father Brown?

  • @debrazawlocki3975
    @debrazawlocki3975 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christ doesn't cancel anyone... just pointing out we canceled are still accepted by Christ.