Threadless Headset Overhaul (Clean/Lube/Replace Bearings/Replace Crown Race)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- The headset on this bike felt very rough as I turned the handlebars. So it needed to be overhauled. I opened it up, cleaned it, replaced the bearings. The crown race had some damage, so I replaced it. I greased everything up and put it back together. I thought about replacing the whole headset, but I may do that in another video.
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I appreciate that in this video, you worked with an old, rusty bike. I am in the process of resurrecting my own old rusty bike, and your video is more appropriate than those videos that use new, spotless bikes.
Nice, clear, easy-to-understand video without annoying background music. Love it. I've got a 2012 Schwinn Paramount road bike that seems to have developed "indexed steering" or what some call "brinneling." So I'll be diving into it soon to have a look at the races to see if that is indeed the problem. Sheldon Brown's website says this is often due to lubricant breakdown. It's kind of interesting to me, considering this bike has about 7,000 miles on it, has never been ridden in the rain and has always been kept indoors. Yet my 1998 Specialized Hard Rock MTB (converted to touring) has about 35,000 miles on it, has been ridden for many thousands of miles with 50 pounds of gear loaded on it through every kind of weather condition from beautiful sunny days to brutal, torrential rain in hot, very humid conditions, yet has never needed any headset work other than some minor adjusting once. Of course that bike is built like a Sherman tank, so I guess that explains it. Anyway, thanks for the nice video.
The bearings in headsets tend to ride in roughly the same place. Unlike hubs or BB's, steering just goes back and forth.
This saved my day after I absentmindedly took apart a headset for the first time, not remembering the order of the parts, and then couldn't get it back together. Your videos have taught me more about bikes than any other online source or mechanical books.
Very good--no long winded BS, voice clear as a bell, and care taken to indicate exactly what was going on--unlike many "instructional" clips that gloss over imporant points and waffle on about what's NOT important.
Also good was the presenter did not carelessly block out what he was doing by obscuring the view with hands or other body parts. Kudos to the camera guy too!
Thanks a bunch, RJ The Bike Guy.
:-)
You#re welcome. Bike Guy
Best bike repair video ever. No bs advertising
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Just serviced my headset. Wow, what a difference it made. I did not even have to change any parts; and it still made a difference.
Someone this man a medal. Life savior! God bless!
I've only recently gotten into cycling, and was given and 80's repco frame to restore. Your videos have been the single most helpful source I've found, so thankyou sir and bravo...
Thanks for the detail, explaining each part, and not being long-winded with unnecessary details.
Very good video. If you have "indexed steering", i.e. dimpled damaged races, and can't find replacement parts, or if you're under pressure time wise, if you'll use free balls (the balls will no longer be spaced to simultaneously engage the dimples) your bearing will work like new! An old school fix.
Not easy to find a useful video on this subject that helped with my son’s bike. Thank you!
Undertook my first headset service today. Went well. Really pleased. Many thanks.
I like to put it on the ground at the end and tighten the headset cap bolt while it is on the ground. Using the front brake, while rocking back and forth, can give you a more realistic feel, for adjusting tightness, using gravity and weight, more than on the bike stand.
Thank you for this.,... I always forget what side of the bearings go...... Flat side OUT!!
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Awesome & Thanks Sir 🙏🕊 Do we need to replace the headset bearings if we have a prolonged knocking issue ?
Nice find, never heard of novara but noticed the alloy and checked it pretty good stuff.
Awesome video this was super helpful! Thanks.
Wow, thanks again RJ. Great video, very well done. I hope you continue to make ad money for decades =)
Another great vid RJ. I am in the process of striping my mountain bike down for respray, and sourcing parts. I was wondering which way round the cage bearing faced as I forgot. Thanks, this vid helped a lot.
It depends on the headset and bearings. The bearings need to be able to smoothly contact both races.
Very good explanation (teaching)
This video was incredible thank you 👍
thank god for this video! i wanted a fork upgrade and forgot how the headset parts fitted all in haha
Nice demo of the puller, and unusual but nice spec'd find.
Amazing sleight of hand there at 3:10 when one bearing suddenly becomes two.
So now we know - we need not bother buying expensive parts for our bikes any more once we learn how to conjure up components from thin air!
Thank you! Super helpful and nearly same set up as I'm working on.
Great video step by step, thanks you
Didn’t see you spray WD on the tube. great nice video, good job last a few years. I too like you have been buying bikes with rust old chains and just done a steering on a Butler Road bike same as you have just done
For those wondering about that grease, thats moly. That's high temperature grease for cars that and I doubt you need to use that kind of quality.
Question for RJ, would Mob1l Synthetic grease be good enough for this?
It's NOT high temperature grease. And if you are an expert on grease, why are you asking me?
@@RJTheBikeGuy Sorry RJ didn't mean to insult. I thought all MOLY grease was high temperature.
This video answered alot of questions for me ---Thanks bro
Nice one thanks 👍
Is it rare for my bottom caged bearings to be set with the bearings balls down on the crown and the cage up in the cup?? Please let me know cause they don’t want to fit any other way
So useful, thank you very much!
Very helpful, tkanks!
thanks for the video! helped me!
great video
Any reason you used general grease instead of teflon, for example?
Thanks r j you really helped me out .
Cheers Evan
Awesome!
Someone needs to explain how difficult it is to find the right parts to replace the headset bearing. They are not standard and are difficult to find online.
great video rj thanks!
Hi Thank you so much for making this video. Is it normal for most 1 x 1/8" fork steerer tube to be slightly wider at the bottom? my steer tube bore measures 28.575 mm, but it is 30 mm at the bottom. Is this normal? I have to install my crown race so I am not even sure whether 1.5mm extra width could crack or damage the crown race. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for posting this video. I will give it a try, and will do the oven heat trick as well.
+Sonnet Gomes Only ask your question in ONE place. I am not going to answer the same question multiple times.
Thanks!
RJ, How do you know what size bearings you need to replace with? I have a 2014 X-Caliber 8 and the bearings are similar to what you pulled out of the bike in your video, but I'm not sure which bearings to replace it with if I ever need to.
The easiest way is to take it to a bike shop and have them match it.
Thank you.
Hi there, I was wondering. Can you also replace the cage bearing with loose bearing balls with this type of headset? Regards!
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Can I purchase this bearing online?
Probably. You have to find a match. And don't ask me how to do that. Best bet is go to a bike shop and have them match it.
Hello, I've just started this fix and on dismantling the headset found both old bearings placed in the cups the other way around. I've tried new bearing cages greased thoroughly and tested installed both ways and how I found them seems the quietest/smoothest. Must they be placed as you have done in the video or is it ok to leave the new ones in opposite? Will any damage occur having them this way round, should they always be inserted flat race edge out without exception? Thanks for your help. Oh and headset is a Geforce YST corp if you have encountered one of those, thanks.
cranebeg There is going to be variation between different brands/models of headsets, or other bike parts for that matter. The basic design will usually be similar. I would stay with how they came out, unless they didn't work correctly.
Just done this on my specialised hardrock and it seems the new bearing cages are binding when reassemble and tighten the cap nut. Everything is assembled correctly. Are my new bearings unsuitable? Just standard 1 1/8 bearing cages.
Sorry, I can't tell you without having worked on your bike. You may just not have them adjust correctly. Or you have installed them incorrectly. Or maybe they are the wrong cages. I don't know.
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@@RJTheBikeGuy Sorry for late reply. Thanks, that video shined a light. It was my bad of course. Head bolt up too tight! I have a tendancy to 'bollock' everything up!
Does the top ball bearing is smaller than the bottom ball bearing? I had a new fork installed and it seems that the top ball bearing doesnt catch with the steer tube. The bottom ball bearing is fine but the top is shaking up badly when braking.
If you asking if the top and bottom bearings can be different. Sure. There are thousands of different headsets and they can be all kinds of different.
Can i replace the caged bearings with loose ball bearing on this kind of headset?
I wouldn’t, the cage allows the compression ring something to glide against, holding the bearings directly in situ
@@BenLCarter96 thanks for your reply! Helps me a lot for my decision making.
Hi i wanted to replace my standard bearing to a sealed bearing is it possible? Or i will need to replace the whole headset? Rather than the bearing it self...
No. It would be like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Headsets with sealed bearings are made for sealed bearings.
Tnx again u r the best.. 😊
will it be a good idea to polish the steel fork tube?
I just clean it and lube it. The tube itself doesn't move against anything.
hi on my bike I've took off the suspension but my bearings are loose and not in a ring they were just sittin in the race on there own and have fell out I have replacement ball bearings but does the forks just slide back in to this or am I missing a part? I think someone took them apart before I got the bike and hence the reason they are loose
+David Inglis Some headsets have loose bearings.
+RJ The Bike Guy, yeah I know that sorry I forgot to say on my bike frame do I just put the loose bearings into the cup that's on the frame and then the forks just straight into the cup without dropping them? when I do this it feels like I'm missing a part between the forks and cup
Here is a video where I replaced cage bearings with loose bearings. th-cam.com/video/Uq3LNMfedl8/w-d-xo.html
That should give you an idea how they go together.
+RJ The Bike Guy I just watched that one after I sent that message, it's the race on the forks I need to replace the rubber has worn away, thanks good videos
Why'd you use a cage for the bearings?
Because that is what it came with and this video is not about converting to loose bearings of which I already have videos fo.
Aha. Gotcha. Thanks!
can you convert from that type of headset to an intigrated
Yes & no. you can buy cups that work with sealed integrated type bearings, I forget who makes them.
crown race removal tool, what witch craft is this, ive used a large flat end and a hammer for the last 35 years.
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@@RJTheBikeGuy new sub here was refreshing over which way round to put the bearings, using my forced relaxation to rebuild my 20yo mtb thanx for the info
A race sits on the bottom of the forks steerer tube.. Bearing cups are not races..
You are referring to the crown race. A race is simply the part where the balls roll. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(bearing)
Nice try though, Bob42047bmx
Is Crown race interchangeable?
Doug Gonsalves to a certain extent.
nice mallet.
Made it myself.
Whaaaaat no marine grease!?!? Lol you always use marine grease!
go a head
Stupid ads make me skip the video
Try some WD40 before you start banging away.